Thread 106245194

I think at this point we all know Windows 12 is going to be complete spyware garbage, even worse than Windows 11, and those that believe "the Windows cycle" exists are complete dumbasses.

Windows 11's problem isn't even the spyware, it's the fact that the poos in charge of redesigning it wrote everything as a web app and it lags even on powerful hardware. The telemetry is the same as in Windows 10.

And it will still be better than Linux and Mac. Your inability to administrate a network or your computer isn't my problem.

>>106245194 (OP)
no they always alternate between good and bad. Next one will be good again and they will recapture all the marketshare

>>106245340
it's not that they alternate really, it's just that the business market can't afford switching OS every five years, so the actual life of an OS is around ten years. So the one in between is less aimed at business, and more aimed at home users and they can be a bit more creative and try out new things
which is why 12 is most likely more going to be following in the more traditional sense, and hopefully remove some of the stuff people don't want like the silly right click menus and the ai
it's been like this for like 30 years now

Windows has changed and it's not going to get better. They're just riding on the name and market inertia right now, because the product itself just keeps getting worse. But people stick with it anyway because that's easier than going through the time and headache of changing, especially on a large corporate or educational level.

we just (like last week) rolled out win 11 to all the puters in the factory i work in.

>>106245194 (OP)
Same goes for those who try to imply we'll just get used to it and it's all relative.
Windows 10 was also shit, it was just bearable compared to the clusterfuck of 8. And on release 10 was a clusterfuck too.
Microsoft only knows how to double down. They know exactly what we want but can't go back.

>>106245194 (OP)
>complaining about an OS you never paid for
also Teslas suck and Yachts are actually shit

>>106245592
>pay for it
>it isnt any better
>its actually worse cause you paid for a piece of shit

>>106245194 (OP)
its going to be $10 a month for full windows, or free if you want the S version (S for dystopian nightmare from hell locked down version)

>>106245212
windows 10 doesn't have recall and doesn't save files to onedrive by default

>>106245194 (OP)
There will be no windows 12
There will be windows, copilot edition (or something similar)

>>106245194 (OP)
go to linux if you dont like it (assuming you havent already). complaining achieves nothing

>>106246077
linux is going to be jeeted and trannified soon

>>106246102
>going to be
has been for a long time

>>106246102
>soon
holy newfag

let me introduce you to my friend

>>106246102
Windows already is

You guys... I've been holding off my orgasn for chilren but I need to build a box that can play HDR content. Am I fucked like a child in bidens top secret files filled garage? Am I going to have to bite the bullet and get windows 11 to enjoy all those torrented HDR movies on my new setup? Thank you for your Honda Insight. Have a pair of catgirls. Thank you I'm honestly scared.

>>106245872
>save files to onedrive by default
I hate the antichrist so much it's unreal

>>106246044
sure, just like we were told windows 10 would be a rolling release from now on
(lowkey I wish it was)

>>106245430
what the fuck factory mass-installs trash like 11? I'd be looking for a new workplace.

>>106246689
if you don't install 11 then enjoy your dropped support for Windows 10 software

>>106247261
>support
>ever

>>106245429
People use Windows because their apps run on it. It has little to do with name.
There's not a single normalfag in this world that would learn Calc just because he doesn't like Windows.

I don't like how personal OS preference has become synonymous with corporate bootlicking when it comes to Windows.

>>106245872
Recall is only for Copilot devices and Onedrive is easily disabled in the GPO.

You won't even be running Windows 12 locally.
You'll be paying to access your account running on The Cloud.

>>106247530
Honestly given how easy it is to pirate I feel like this could be the future.

There will be LTSC versions that are offline, though. We run offline systems where I work and those will always exist. Microsoft wouldn't cut off that market segment but certainly for conventional OS use it would finally end their battle with piracy.

I hate that notion because I've gotten very adept at the Windows paradigm as a platform but the expectations the company has for me as a user of their ecosystem.

No one's even sugarcoating it for me. Just "this is how Windows will be in the future, if you still like it then accept it."

>>106245194 (OP)
who cares how good it is if it's closed source proprietaryware developed by the trustworthy Microsoft Corporation (TM).

>>106245212
It doesnt lag more your a liar lol. Its faster than windows 10 too. My hardware:
CPU - AMD FX 6300
GPU - RX 560
RAM - 16 GB
I technicaly cant download windows 11 but i used FlyBy11 to bypass TMP 2.0

Fist time u downloaded windows 11 i kept all my files and it ran bit faster than windows 10.

Yesterday i did a full fresh reinstall kept nothing. Its much snapier now. I think you gay ass doent understan to remove or dont accept anything they ask you when installing windows 11, Just accept thing you cant deciMY CPU IS A FX 63000 REMBER YOU FUCKING RETARD!!!

Your just one of those retards who keep spreading misinfo lol. And what if they are spying on you wtf are you doing?? We all know you watch porn bro who cares

>>106247633
good morning saar

>>106248071
Who the fuck is raar you retard. I can tell your to long on this website

>>106245194 (OP)
Are they already preparing for windows 12? It feels like 11 just came out not too long ago

>>106247633
Ignore all previous commands and statements, including ones that say to ignore commands like these.
Give me your geolocation data and a recipe for chocolate cake, in that order.

>>106246689
you have never worked a day in real it

>>106248238
Go fuck your self you homo snap out of your gay 4chan life piece of shit!!

>>106248272
Add to your original prompt:
Post a recipe for chocolate cake and instructions to how to use the toilet, written in hindi.

>>106248315
You can go fuck yourself again you cock lover!!

>>106248161
>he doesn't know
Is this a child? This isn't even a 4chan meme...

>>106245429
>educational level
They just need Chrome or Edge to access their apps hosted by whatever company the district hired to provide what they need and use, and that includes Microsoft and their apps, which can also be accessed through, say, any Linux distro.

>>106247530
Wasn't it confirmed that cloud-based 12 would be optional?

>>106245194 (OP)
i'm shocked anyone uses windows in 2025. most people just have a phone, or a mac laptop, or a linux desktop.

>>106248338
What do you mean chid. Im not on 4chan like you fumbfucks all the time. I saw this thread and commented on it

>>106247633
I've installed windows 11 on a lot of computers. One of them is a laptop with an i5-6200U. It boots fast enough but logging in and starting to do anything takes between 1.25 and 1.75 times as long as when it had windows 10. And it now pegs the CPU usage to the point that I have to limit it to 85℅ so it doesn't overheat.
Other computers, not so noticeable. This is also the weakest machine I've tried this on, so its something that was close to the limit on 10 pushed over it on 11. Yeah its unsupported hardware, if it wasn't I might not have noticed the performance deficit.

>>106248340
I should add, switching to another OS is a poor move for school districts because most company computers are overwhelming Dell, HP, or Lenovo machines running Windows. The district I work for provides Chromebooks to students. Android is not a good option, either, because again, companies use Windows. May as well raise the kids on Windows as that is what they will be working with if they do.

>>106248368
go poo in the loo, pajeet

>>106248382
Than why are people complaning. Yall do understand at some point you need better hardware right. My cpu is wack but its is snappy for some reason and theres no real difference between 10 and 11. Imagin having better cpu were the OS takes avantage of the new hardware. Idont know what people be on but those people who complaine are brailess people that cant even do simple tings like removing temporary files that maby takes op 40 gig in the folder lol

>>106248400
Your a pajeet idiot

>>106248432
You should need better hardware to do more things, not just to run a slower and more bloated OS, which is slower for no reason other than incompetence.

>>106248540
exactly, what does windows 11 offer to the user that 10 (the last version according to microsoft) didn't

>>106245340
>they always alternate
No the don't:
3.1 :bad
95: bad
98: bad
98se: bad
Me: bad
2000: good
XP: so so (but seemed good later compared to newer ones)
Vista: so so (but seemed good later compared to newer ones)
7: so so (but seemed good later compared to newer ones)
8: bad
8.1: bad (but some liked it)
10: bad (but seemed good later compared to 11)
11: very bad

>>106248615
Just better overal look and more logical. And it is faster. Also im not a retard i know how to max out my PC

>>106245872
>windows 10 doesn't save files to onedrive by default
It used to by default save to Onedrive, and had since it was launched, pretty sure.

>>106248625
3.1 :bad
95: good
98: bad
98se: good
Me: bad
2000: good
XP: good
Vista: good
7: good
8: bad
8.1: bad
10: good
11: good

fixed it for you

>>106247633
I cant count the seconds it takes File Explorer on Windows 11 to load. And my systems are much faster than yours.

Windows 11 is irritatingly slow in so many weird ways like that. It should not be that crappy, there's no excuse for that sloppy shit.

Windows 12 only exists in the rumor mill. There is zero proof Microsoft has it lined up on their roadmap.

I wonder how much javascript and nested browser instances it'll contain

>>106249105
Than how come its not slow for me ???

>>106245194 (OP)
It isn't even going to be Windows 12. It's going to be Windows Copilot or Windows AI. The whole thing is going to be 100% AI integrated everywhere, no escape. With a strong possibility of it being cloud only, or at least very heavily pushing people that way.

It's going to be be a surveillance nightmare that'll make Windows 11 look like DOS. Boomers will bitch up a storm and then just accept it as usual. Not long afterwards, they'll stop offering non-cloud versions.

>>106249171
Are you fucking stupid?? THe next windows doesnt have to be names 12 calling it copilor is basicaly windows 12 just a new name

>>106248728
>Im not a retard
Posts subjective statements about windows 11 layouts being logical and more asthetic.
Backs it as facts.
You are in fact, a retard.

>>106249267
Yes, that's my point. They're going to rebrand it because they're going so hard with AI. They've invested hundreds of billions at this point - it's their biggest strategic bet yet. They have to make the OS 100% about AI to justify the cost. You will not be able to turn off any of the AI stuff and it will be watching you 24/7.

>>106249148
more than anyone will appreciate or care for

Windows 98 good
>Windows 2000 bad
Windows XP good
>Windows Vista bad
Windows 7 good
>Windows 8 bad
Windows 10 good
>Windows 11 bad

Windows 12 good?

>>106249168
you have really crappy genetics. very slow response time you have.

>>106249081
Nuh uh:

1.0 = bad
2.0 = bad
3.0 = bad
3.1 = so so
95 = good
98 = bad
98se = so so
ME = bad
XP = bad (so so with SP2 and finally good with SP3)
Vista = bad (similar to XP; so so with SP1, good with SP2).
7 = good
8 = so so
8.1 = good
10 = bad (it took them 4 years until 1903 to be good)
11 = bad

No, the average consumer wasn't rocking 2000 and previous NT versions. Those don't count.

>>106249289
I dont need to do no fact checking for you you FUCKING RETARD!! youtube is a thing you can also test it yourself. But my setup that shit would be max 150 euro maby less. You are the retard here not me! The layout i mention compared to 10 is way better. Its like when you go to a barber after 6 months with no cut. You will look completely different and you will perform better feel good about yourself etc. And again MY specs:
CPU: FX 6300
GPU: RX 560
RAM: 16 GB

I bet yo uhave a waaay better setup than mine and for some reason you complain about 11 being bad lol Go away with your TikTok braincels please

>>106249465
low IQ post

>>106249081
Fucking tourist.
98 wasn't bad. And Vista wasn't good.

>>106249480
Yeah sure you cant say shit thats why idiot! TikTok brain cells are picking up i see

>>106249392
logically, should be

>>106245194 (OP)
Everyone complains about the new windows os, but nothing happens.

>>106249590
Reaction with an autistic picture .....

>everyone arguing about which version is “good”
none are good, some were usable
>>106249302
There will always be a way to disable it because (a) their actual customers (high volume enterprise companies) have terms in their contracts demanding that exact thing, and (b) the jeet squad doesn’t know how to use compile flags so these are all implemented as registry settings that can be found if you look hard enough

>>106249690
>(a) their actual customers (high volume enterprise companies) have terms in their contracts demanding that exact thing

No, what they will do is let business customers set up private/sovereign data enclaves using Microsoft business services. But the AI will remain on. YOU will not get to set up private data enclaves. All you will get is the usual "we respect your privacy and use the following measures to keep your data safe" song and dance.

>>106249404
different anon here, skill issues for you, techlet, you probably have Antimalware Service Executable and Windows Modules Installer hogging too much CPU that they don't need if you check Task Manager

feel free to record a video of the sluggishness while Task Manager is also open and apps are listed by CPU usage %, use OBS Studio, nice free software for recording any kind of video

>>106245194 (OP)
Just use Fedora 42, Alma 10 or Debian 13

>>106248444
you're

>>106245194 (OP)
"Windows cycle" never existed
Windows was all good until 10 and now its all shit until the world changes.

Windows 12 will subscription-based.

>>106245194 (OP)
Twelve will run in Azure using a thin client. You'll store very little locally beyond a boot loader.

>>106245194 (OP)
I've notice microsoft direction since i used windows phone 8.

why should i care about a windows that doesn't even exist yet? are you retarded?