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Anonymous No.106252727 >>106253238 >>106253277 >>106254044 >>106254439 >>106255335 >>106256971 >>106257586 >>106257768 >>106258702
/pcbg/ - PC Building General
>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards. Issues still reported & latest BIOS doesn't protect new CPUs.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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Anonymous No.106252733
>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
ASUS WOLED with TrueBlack Glossy film launched (XG32UCWMG, XG32UCWG). Limited availability.

>Omissions
RTX 5070 Ti: buy if you need CUDA, if you value DLSS/Reflex that highly, and if the 5060 Ti 16GB or 5070 isn't performant enough.
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/
Anonymous No.106252772 >>106252812 >>106253960
Zased, I remember a few years ago when everyone and their mother was freaking out if some esports player used "z" in game chat.
Anonymous No.106252805 >>106252876 >>106253219 >>106253292
Not sure where else to ask this, I need a cheap gaming laptop.
Like sub $400
It needs to effectively just have a gpu that isn’t shit in it, and comfortably play halo reach in 1080p even if it’s not at high settings
Think anything with a 2050 would be plenty
What should I be looking for?
Anonymous No.106252812
>>106252772

gf named everyone and mother no one else even blinked
Anonymous No.106252876
>>106252805
a used one
Anonymous No.106253116 >>106253164 >>106253233 >>106253282 >>106253293 >>106253923 >>106256115
My VX2758-2KP-MHD died recently, I need a new 1440p/27"/144+hz monitor and I narrowed it down to Dell G2724D and Asus XG27ACS. The Dell one is significantly cheaper at $160, but Asus one has better performance and wider color gamut support and comes at $210 but some users report about its grainy matte screen cover. I'm torn between the two, both are good options but what would /pcbg/ do?
Anonymous No.106253164 >>106253282
>>106253116
You could always peel off the matte coating.
Anonymous No.106253205 >>106253266
Are ssds more long lasting and data recoverable after crashes than hdds? I keep getting varying answers online.
Anonymous No.106253219
>>106252805
steam deck.
Anonymous No.106253233 >>106253303
>>106253116
you can find 240hz at $210.
Anonymous No.106253238 >>106253451 >>106253492 >>106255511
>>106252727 (OP)
My build.
Anonymous No.106253259 >>106253477
>>106147795
>bought a new 4k oled display last month, and my PC has been randomly crashing ever since. when it happens, both my displays go out, audio continues to play, peripherals continue to have power, fans all ramp up to 100%. i can use remote desktop to log into the system and see the cursor move when i move the mouse but with no graphics output, so the system is /somewhat/ responsive still. event viewer has nothing for the time other than an unexpected shutdown:
>>The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.

this guy again, i'm borrowing a 5080 from a friend. it hasn't crashed while idle (yet, thankfully), but i get 5 minutes or so into a game and it'll crash, so it's doing it even more reliably than the 4070ti was, which to me indicates it really is a power source issue. i was getting a few hours out of the 4070ti in the weekend during the battlefield beta before it would crash.

i'm about to shutdown and recable everything again just to be 100% sure, but from there i'm unsure on what to do next if it keeps happening:
- replace PSU (Corsair RM850x 850W ATX 3.1)
- replace motherboard (Gigabyte B550M DS3H AC mATX)

someone suggested nvidia drivers have issues with dual monitors, but it does it even when i unplug the second monitor. ran DDU for fresh drivers etc already. haven't tried a fresh windows install yet
Anonymous No.106253266 >>106253672
>>106253205
Define "crashes", because the answer changes depending on what you meant by that.
Anonymous No.106253277
>>106252727 (OP)
>launch rocket at america
Anonymous No.106253282 >>106253303
>>106253164
you can't peel off screens with polarizers like that you gonna fuck up the entire display
you can polish matte screens if you are a real schizo tier though

>>106253116
whatever is cheap and fits your budget not like you can be picky
I'd go 180hz+ and wide color gamut
Anonymous No.106253292
>>106252805
A steam deck with dock if you want new and without surprise issues.
No, are not getting good laptop for 400$ nowadays.
Anonymous No.106253293
>>106253116

the asus comes with stickers are you perhaps child or doctor
Anonymous No.106253303
>>106253233
I don't reside in the US, I used USD to give an estimate.
>>106253282
I was leaning towards the Asus one as well, it's just that I was a bit worried about the screen coating. I suppose I can always check it in store.
Anonymous No.106253451
>>106253238
kawaii!
Anonymous No.106253477 >>106254277
>>106253259
the problem is the GPU. novidio can't handle multiple displays plugged into it, especially when using features like gsync and framegen.
use the 4070ti, it's more stable, and roll back your drivers to the last ones released before the 5000 series released, it's like 566 or something.
also plug your extra monitors into your cpu (video ports on your motherboard) instead of your gpu.
go watch this video if you want a more detailed analysis.
Anonymous No.106253492 >>106253591
>>106253238
if you have a nice AMD APU in there, that is kino.
if you have some dogshit intel cpu in there to power the displays in the lobbies of businesses, cringe.
Anonymous No.106253587
Started playing with process lasso today, having everything not muh gaymes on ccd1 is pretty neat. Any other cool stuff I can do with it?
Anonymous No.106253591
>>106253492
Anonymous No.106253627 >>106253637 >>106253785
R8
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rjvCXR
Anonymous No.106253637 >>106253683
>>106253627
>3060 for $300
Did you mean to mark that as purchased?
Anonymous No.106253672
>>106253266
Crashes as in becomes unusable but the memory can still be extracted.
Anonymous No.106253683 >>106253785 >>106253974
>>106253637
Nah it's not, never built a PC before so I wanted to know how bad these decisions are. It's for gaming and I'm trying to see how to cut this down to less than 1.2k.
Anonymous No.106253785 >>106253884 >>106253898 >>106253974
>>106253683
>>106253627
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dpRhcx

This would get you within budget (without monitor), it would also be much better for gaming, the 3060 is an old GPU
Anonymous No.106253807 >>106253831 >>106253886
thots on graphene thermal pads?
Anonymous No.106253831
>>106253807
meme
Anonymous No.106253866 >>106254061
Getting some cash for my birthday soon and I was thinking about upgrading my GPU. Haven't really upgraded my tech in a while and I'm out of the loop about what's good these days. I do a lot of multimedia projects like animation, music, and hopefully some gamedev stuff in the future. With a budget of 300-400 USD what would be the best choice? I really like using NVENC to record with but I was thinking about looking into AMD since Linux works better with it and I do dualboot. Any help would be super appreciated.
Anonymous No.106253884
>>106253785
Ah thanks! Looks much better than what my choices would've been.
Anonymous No.106253886
>>106253807
its electrically conductive and barely better than good pads/putty so its meme
Anonymous No.106253898 >>106253904
>>106253785
>the 3060 is an old GPU
Something about this sentence doesn't sit well with me and I don't even have the 3060.
Anonymous No.106253904 >>106254069
>>106253898
I'm sorry to inform you anon, but the 3060 is over 5 years old now
Anonymous No.106253923 >>106253927 >>106253963
Did this guy https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/106252727#bottom buy the C4 or not? I'd like some closure.

>>106253116
They're both good monitors, I would get the ASUS one if it's $210 US.
Better ones are miniLED or OLED for the same resolution.
Anonymous No.106253927 >>106253963
>>106253923
Wrong link >>106215333
Anonymous No.106253957 >>106254062 >>106254118
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p39PBq
Thoughts? I want this shit to last a while after all I got a 9700k/3070 now.
Anonymous No.106253960 >>106253966
>>106252772
It would be funny to wear a z shirt in Mexico.
Anonymous No.106253963 >>106254031
>>106253923
>>106253927
I didn't only thing stopping me was not having enough cash in my account and atms to deposit cash were closed that same day kek
Anonymous No.106253966 >>106254472
>>106253960
???
Anonymous No.106253974 >>106254061 >>106254230
>>106253683
>>106253785 is a more solid build than what tyou originally had. A general rule of thumb for gaming PCs regardless of budget, is to dedicate ~50% of it to the GPU alone and then put the rest into a platform that simply won't bottleneck it.

My PCPP recommendation: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ynrhcx
Also comes out to a little less than ~$1200 w/o monitor using the older but still good Raptor Lake i5 w/cheap DDR4 RAM for added savings that I reinvested into a 5070 which is a huge step-up for FPS. Keep in mind Nvidia is planning to update it and the rest of the 5000 series in a matter of month with more VRAM which will be useful @ 1440p alledgely for the same price because of how slow the sales of the vanilla 5000 cards have been:
https://hothardware.com/news/nvidias-alleged-geforce-rtx-50-super-pricing-just-changed

You can save a good bit on the monitor as well with this similar-spec one after coupon code (the extra 60Hz isn't worth another $80 IMO):
https://www.amazon.com/SANSUI-Monitor-Computer-ES-G27F2Q-Included/dp/B0CWCWL81G?th=1
I personally don't think any 1440p Fast-IPS should be sold for more than $200 in 2025, and if they are they should be 4K instead.

Let us know if your $1.2K budget should really be including the monitor instead of adding it separately too and further changes can be made accordingly.
Anonymous No.106253997
woah wtf why didn't anyone tell me that Nvidia exclusive Ray Reconstruction is really good.
Anonymous No.106254031 >>106254098
>>106253963
What the fuck bro...
Anonymous No.106254044 >>106254259 >>106254548 >>106256183
>>106252727 (OP)
stupid zigger spastic dickhead
slava Ukraini
Anonymous No.106254061 >>106254213
>>106253974
>added savings that I reinvested into a 5070 which is a huge step-up for FPS
Relative GPU fps @ 1440p:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/galax-geforce-rtx-5070-ex-oc/30.html

>>106253866
>With a budget of 300-400 USD what would be the best choice? I really like using NVENC to record with but I was thinking about looking into AMD since Linux works better with it and I do dualboot. Any help would be super appreciated.
In your price range narrowed with AMD-only, honestly the 7700 XT 12GB would be my choice (better than 9060 XT see picrel per for roughly the same cost):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D9QKXJDK
Anonymous No.106254062 >>106254070 >>106254530
>>106253957
750w psu would most probably be enough
b850 board would be sufficient
Anonymous No.106254069 >>106254108 >>106254131
>>106253904
I don't know what you mean, my 3080 was just released by nvidia yesterday
Anonymous No.106254070
>>106254062
forgot to mention you should get cl30 ram and maybe a 48gb kit at that with moneys saved from mobo and psu
Anonymous No.106254098
>>106254031
sometimes divine intervention guides your path
I could have solved it by other means by I was lazy so
plus I can't use it at optimal settings right now anyway
now I can cope about other things later
do you own one? are you buying one?
Anonymous No.106254108
>>106254069
time passes quickly, anon.
Anonymous No.106254118 >>106254334 >>106254530
>>106253957
1. Over $200 for a mobo is a lot, any particular feature set you have in mind or just something generally nice/good enough?
2. A dual-tower air cooler is enough for the 9800X3D and you wouldn't have to worry about the pump failing years down the line or corrosion buildup in the microfins of the coldplate, etc.
3. If you plan to keep this system for a really long time I'd second getting more than the 32GB of RAM
4. You can save roughly ~$100 for a single 4TB NVME drive compare with 2 separate drives worth only 3TB combined capacity that will leave you with an extra mobo slot to add extra capacity to later:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CX3NnQ/kingspec-xg7000-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-xg-7000-4tb
Anonymous No.106254131 >>106254231
>>106254069
3080 would have been never obsoleteβ„’ if nvidia had given it 20gb as initially planned
Anonymous No.106254180 >>106254213
>2 year old 6750xt starts crashing out
>RMA offers me a full refund
Do I grab a 9060XT or a 5060Ti, both 16gb? They are almost the same price here. I play games occasionally and don't particularly care about AI or CUDA stuff.
Anonymous No.106254213 >>106254239
>>106254180
The 5060 Ti 16GB is a small but healthy jump over the 9060 XT as shown in >>106254061 and here.
Anonymous No.106254230
>>106253974
I see, thanks! Not including the monitor in the budget is okay.
Still planning to go with that build the other Anon posted but I'll add this monitor in, any 144hz or above IPS is fine to me.
Anonymous No.106254231
>>106254131
Those scoundrels.
Anonymous No.106254239 >>106254293 >>106254297
>>106254213
Good to know. Are the driver issues people had with the 50 series fixed now?
Anonymous No.106254249 >>106254391
do any current GPUs support video-in thru hdmi or display port without the use of a secondary capture card?
Anonymous No.106254259
>>106254044
hop in bro
Anonymous No.106254277
>>106253477
lmfao fucking retarded nvidia
put an undervolt and got 90 min of game time instead of 5 min, then it crashed while watching that video. swapped dp port so if it does it again i'll try rolling back drivers
Anonymous No.106254293
>>106254239
I had to return my 5060Ti even after doing their released firmware update, I'd get a black screen on boot with the last two driver releases
Anonymous No.106254297
>>106254239
it depends on your specific hardware configuration. me, i've never seen any issues since driver version 572.83 but i only have a single g-sync monitor too
Anonymous No.106254334 >>106254363 >>106254396
>>106254118
>AIR COOLER GOOD
Notto dissu shitto agen
Anonymous No.106254363
>>106254334
they are good, and more than adequate for 800x3d's.
Anonymous No.106254378 >>106254384 >>106254422 >>106254460 >>106254658 >>106257393
What do I need to build an anti-gaming PC?

I want to build a PC that gives the impression that I'm a person who hates PC gaming, hates Valve, hates the Steam Deck, hates Gabe Newell, and rejects PC gaming.

What case, processor, mouse, RAM, and operating system would be ideal for what I'm looking for?
Anonymous No.106254383 >>106254397
A macbook would do the trick
Anonymous No.106254384 >>106254397
>>106254378
What you want is a Macbook Pro
Anonymous No.106254391 >>106254443
>>106254249
No, why would they? Capture circuitry is way different than of a normal gpu. Just buy a cheap capture card.
I have this one, is 4k60 PASSTHROUGH and record at 1080p60
Anonymous No.106254396 >>106254542
>>106254334
My Noctua will be passed down like a family heirloom from generation to generation constantly gaining value.
Your generation can't even conceive of things before planned obsolescence was the main business tactic.
Anonymous No.106254397 >>106254403 >>106254417 >>106257410
>>106254383
>>106254384
Which Macbook model is the most ideal for what I'm looking for?
Anonymous No.106254403
>>106254397
Any of them, its not like they are any different from each other
Anonymous No.106254417
>>106254397
get the one with the mobile phone CPU
Anonymous No.106254422 >>106254425
>>106254378
I believe this should do the trick, you can probably fit all of the components you need inside the wheel.
Anonymous No.106254425 >>106254431
>>106254422
Anonymous No.106254431
>>106254425
Fug I failed, guess it's my turn on the wheel.
Anonymous No.106254439
>>106252727 (OP)
Z, my brother.
Anonymous No.106254443 >>106254464 >>106254669
>>106254391
>No, why would they?
iirc, back in the day there were some cards that supported video-in and tv-tuners like the ATI all in wonder cards...
Anonymous No.106254460
>>106254378
check out jeff geerling's ARM desktop builds.
Anonymous No.106254464 >>106254481
>>106254443
Yeah but no one used tv-tuners and to make gpu cost less (to them) they just remove them, you're talking about 20+ years cards, not even my first ati 9250 had that
Anonymous No.106254472
>>106253966
Forget it.
Anonymous No.106254481
>>106254464
fair points.
Anonymous No.106254530
>>106254062
>>106254118
Sorry for the long reply time, I was taking care of some stuff.
Well, for the psu I figured at 850w it'll be running super cool.
The x870 has more power phases, so despite me not planning to oc, I think it'd be more durable.
For the cpu cooler, I have a thermalright PA120 on the i7 9700k now, but I figured this newer cpu with higher wattage would run hot on it.
More ram, sure, I'll just step to 64gb.
Those nvme's are just what I currently have, just put them in for pcpartpicker.
Anonymous No.106254542 >>106254595
>>106254396
I will use my 9800x3d at maximum utilization rather than limiting my expensive processors with obsolete heirlooms, thanks.
Anonymous No.106254548 >>106254631 >>106254730 >>106254757 >>106254840 >>106255413 >>106257733
>>106254044
back to the trenches nafo troon
Anonymous No.106254575
you dont need a 5090
Anonymous No.106254595 >>106254668
>>106254542
The noctua can fully power the 9800 using less electricity and making less noise.
Anonymous No.106254602 >>106254635
>9950x3d not being restocked
>9950x over $100 off
What the fuck is going on are they releasing some new shit soon
Anonymous No.106254613
I NEED 5090. but I can't afford one...
Anonymous No.106254628
I have a 5090 but all I use it for is porn generation
A card with a third of its power could max out all the games I play
Anonymous No.106254631 >>106254944
>>106254548
>14900ks
Anonymous No.106254635 >>106254651 >>106255467 >>106257373
>>106254602
Rumors say we're getting a 9950x3DD with double the vcache.
Anonymous No.106254651 >>106254690 >>106254693 >>106254694 >>106254920 >>106255651
>>106254635
Usecase of doubling the vcache?
Anonymous No.106254658
>>106254378
macbook pro max+.
Anonymous No.106254668
>>106254595
>can********
Anonymous No.106254669
>>106254443
I had one of those that plugged in through usb (I think?). I used it to play my saturn n64 and ps2 on my computer.
Anonymous No.106254690 >>106254913
>>106254651
Raising the price
Anonymous No.106254693
>>106254651
Normie retards think it will be "better" so they can sell more CPUs at a higher price to them.
Anonymous No.106254694
>>106254651
drag racing.
Anonymous No.106254707 >>106254714 >>106254726
Anyone got good gaming mouse recommendations?

I'd like something with 2-3 thumb buttons on the side.
Anonymous No.106254714 >>106254726 >>106254777
>>106254707
I like this.
Anonymous No.106254726 >>106254745 >>106254777
>>106254714
>>106254707
I can second this one as a good cheap mouse. Personally it didn't fight my hand well and caused cramps. I ended up with a Pulsar Crazylight, I love it but it's expensive so I can't recommend it if you are on a budget.
Check out boardzy and rocketjumpninja on youtube both of them have extensive mouse reviews and graphs that can help you find something that fits your needs. Also https://www.eloshapes.com/
Anonymous No.106254730 >>106254944
>>106254548
>he boughted Intel
yep Russians are retarded
Anonymous No.106254745 >>106254777
>>106254726
sensor.fyi is a cool website too.
Anonymous No.106254757 >>106254761 >>106254944
>>106254548
Why the high latency memory? Shouda gotten 6800cl34-42-42 instead
Anonymous No.106254761
>>106254757
he couldn't afford a suprim 5090 either
Anonymous No.106254777 >>106254793
>>106254745
>>106254726
>>106254714
ty lads. I've been using the same generic $7 mouse from staples for the past like 10 years, so im pretty lost as far as what to look for.

>https://www.eloshapes.com/
damn, i filtered to mice with only 2 buttons and there's still over 1000 results....
Anonymous No.106254793 >>106254882
>>106254777
I would suggest checking out rocket jump ninjas site. He has a guide that helps you figure out the best size and shape of mouse that fits your hand. Then you can take that info and help narrow things down on eloshapes.
Anonymous No.106254840 >>106254944
>>106254548
>core i
>huge slow ram
>samsung ssd
>hdd
computing like its the 2010s
Anonymous No.106254882
>>106254793
will do! thanks bro
Anonymous No.106254913
>>106254690
Kek
Anonymous No.106254920
>>106254651
Inflating your rig's specs in the sig of hardware/gaming forums.
Anonymous No.106254944 >>106254954 >>106255047 >>106255102
>>106254757
>>106254840
Because you can't get it that low in 96 GB :) I need it for LLM. Fucking Chroma needs over 64GB.

>>106254730
>>106254631
Intel Chuds won ;)
Anonymous No.106254954
>>106254944
you didn't look hard enough anon
its trp/trcd 46 but still better than what you have
Anonymous No.106254971 >>106254984 >>106255015
Will gaming utilize multiple cpu cores or is clock speed the only factor at play
Anonymous No.106254984
>>106254971
both of those are used but the bigger problem becomes memory latency once you have a modern cpu with at least 6 cores
Anonymous No.106255015 >>106255063
>>106254971
games have been multithreaded since the PS4 I want to say?
Anonymous No.106255047
>>106254944
why did you buy a poorfag 5090 instead of a suprim or astral?
Anonymous No.106255063
>>106255015
More like PS3, the power of teh CELL!1
Anonymous No.106255102
>>106254944
a real Intelfag would have gotten a Core Ultra 9 285K which is not only significantly more power efficient it also has the best single-thread performance of all PC CPUs
Anonymous No.106255335 >>106255404 >>106256477 >>106256855 >>106257868
>>106252727 (OP)
finished new build. thanks anons for all the help through the process. everything's running great.

I typed up a long post and lost it all, so here's the shorter version: New mobo has ALC4080 audio codec, and I can tell the audio has changed for some reason from my old build which had ALC897. little more boxy? little more compressed? little more latency? I play music so (I think) have a reasonably good ear.

some things I might get used to or get over, but one that's really annoying is a consistent crackle any time I run a program and windows prompts to confirm running. this is just one I've noticed so far. I noticed some mentioned this might be bypassed using optical output, but the crackle happens on both optical and aux outputs. any solutions or am I just fucked? would an audio card really help? is this some kind of shielding/electrical issue maybe? my speakers don't have any hum
Anonymous No.106255358 >>106255395 >>106255434
do you guys use a monitor arm or sticking with the default stand?
i have 27inch main and 24inch side monitor, thinking of getting a monitor arm, is it better to get one for both monitors or two separate?
what about price point?
are more expensive worth it or there is hardly any difference?
i see the prices vary from around 50ish euro to nearly 300 euro
how much of a difference is there in build quality?
any recommendations?
Anonymous No.106255395
>>106255358
I ran dual monitors on stands for years and just switched to dual arms and it's pretty nice. I'm actually running the same screen size setup as you while I shop for another 27" kek.

I'd recommend going the dual arms route because you get more desk space back and just have a lot more flexibility manipulating the monitors. I was looking at the Fully/Herman Miller arms, then realized $250 was ridiculous got a set for like $70 on amazon and they're really pretty nice. I don't think spending more is worth it because they're all solid and you're never going to be looking at the arms anyway. only case I can think of for stands is that you will need additional 5-6 inches behind your desk for the arms, so you can't have the desk fully backed up to a wall.
Anonymous No.106255404 >>106255607 >>106255615 >>106258389
>>106255335
>I typed up a long post and lost it all, so here's the shorter version: New mobo has ALC4080 audio codec, and I can tell the audio has changed for some reason from my old build which had ALC897. little more boxy? little more compressed? little more latency? I play music so (I think) have a reasonably good ear. some things I might get used to or get over, but one that's really annoying is a consistent crackle any time I run a program and windows prompts to confirm running. this is just one I've noticed so far. I noticed some mentioned this might be bypassed using optical output, but the crackle happens on both optical and aux outputs. any solutions or am I just fucked? would an audio card really help? is this some kind of shielding/electrical issue maybe? my speakers don't have any hum

The ALC897 only had a SNR of 100dB while the newer 4080 chip had a theoretical range of 120db so if anything your audio should sound clearer and the 870 Tomahawk looks well put together..

1. Did you update all your firmware and (audio) drivers?
2. Download LatencyMon and let it run while doing things that causes the crackle:
https://www.resplendence.com/latencymon
Those symptoms sound like a DPC latency storm typically from either a bad driver install/conflict or something like a wonky storage/PCI-E slot
Anonymous No.106255413
>>106254548
>t.Noth Korea
Anonymous No.106255434
>>106255358
really depends on your setup. I want to get arms but I don't have the space at the moment. my desk is crammed into the wall and it can't go anywhere else.
I think ideally I'd have 2-4 monitors on arms, and a wall mounted TV above it all.
Anonymous No.106255467
>>106254635
>X3DD
AWOOOOOGA
Anonymous No.106255478 >>106255497
>poorfags telling you to buy AMD GPUs are ziggers
To the surprise of no one. Keep buying western stuff, though.
Anonymous No.106255497
>>106255478
AMD and Nvidia are western
Intel is middle eastern
Anonymous No.106255511
>>106253238
mine's bigger
Anonymous No.106255577 >>106255720
>>106245310
but the 3070ti is only a pcie4 card does it even matter? it's running at pcie4 and so are the nvme drives
Anonymous No.106255607 >>106255615 >>106256477
>>106255404
Phone posting to say thank you. Won't give me a captcha on comp for some reason. Anyway, hate to contribute to the flame war but it's the NVIDIA driver kek. Disabling NVIDIA HD audio helped a bit but still some crackle
Anonymous No.106255615
>>106255404
>>106255607
down from 3700
Anonymous No.106255623
has anyone tried putting a terrarium inside their pc?
Anonymous No.106255651
>>106254651
simulating fluid dynamics
Anonymous No.106255720
>>106255577
You're correct, since your card is 4.0 it shouldn't matter, and not sure why that was brought up by those guys. Low GB cards and those with shortened buses (x8 size instead of x16) will really like having 5.0 to compensate, but that does not apply here. The PCIe speed probably isn't the cause.
Anonymous No.106255799 >>106255815
Let me guess, I have to want more?
Anonymous No.106255815 >>106255920
>>106255799
>16GB of ram
other than that, it should be enough to wait out until AM6
Anonymous No.106255920 >>106256080
>>106255815
I do not play modern soislop.
Anonymous No.106256080
>>106255920
>play
>implying you're doing work with 16gb
Anonymous No.106256115
>>106253116
asus acs
Anonymous No.106256158 >>106256201 >>106256231
will build a new rig but im in between asus tuf 9070xt and nitro + 9070xt which one should i go for anons ? tuf has a slightly better cooling capacity , or should i go for the cheaper one ?
Anonymous No.106256183
>>106254044
seethe nafo troon
Anonymous No.106256201
>>106256158
It doesn't matter, get whatever one is cheaper, they have the same OC profile
Anonymous No.106256231 >>106256411
>>106256158
they're about the same so get whichever you like more
Anonymous No.106256248 >>106256252 >>106256672
Do you guys think they'll let me return my 9950x3d so I can get the 9950xDD when it comes out? So embarrassing that I just bought outdated tech.
Anonymous No.106256252 >>106256301
>>106256248
Return it and get an interim 9800x3d
9950x3d's value is gonna crater soon
Anonymous No.106256301
>>106256252
I was mostly kidding, but I might reach out to the shop and see if they would be willing to work with me. I only bought this so I could call my friends with 9800x3ds poor, one of them might pull a fast one on me.
Anonymous No.106256411
>>106256231
your gpu will always be cool anon , always look for memory and vram temps , btw i memorized it wrong nitro has better mem/vram cooling lmao yeah thanks anon ill go for nitro then
Anonymous No.106256477
>>106255335
>little more latency?
ALC4080 is internally connected through USB
USB audio inherently has more latency
>>106255607
NVIDIA driver DPC latency is a known issue for many years now
Anonymous No.106256672
>>106256248
i bet you cry when someone criticizes your build
Anonymous No.106256795 >>106256822 >>106259150
is 1440p now viable again now that fsr and dlss are becoming usable?
Anonymous No.106256822 >>106256857
>>106256795
1440p has been viable for 5 years nigga
Anonymous No.106256855 >>106257783 >>106258274
>>106255335
Why did you pair an nvidia Gpu with an AMD Cpu Rebar provides no performance boost unlike AMD's SAM also no idea why you went with 64GB's which is practically useless outside of gaming also enjoy the shit show that is Nvidia drivers which are all done by AI now
Anonymous No.106256857 >>106256894
>>106256822
true if you can deal with awful taa on native and crappy looking upscalers
i was bottlenecking my system using a 4k panel so i could brute force past the crappy image quality of modern slop
however now that things are getting better for upscalers i may switch back to 1440p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELEu8CtEVMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H38a0vjQbJg
Anonymous No.106256894 >>106256921
>>106256857
use dlaa / fsr native aa to override taa while having none of the downside of upscalers
Anonymous No.106256921 >>106257117 >>106257191 >>106257232
>>106256894
>dlaa
unfortunately i have an amd gpu
Anonymous No.106256971 >>106257023 >>106257036 >>106258010 >>106259167
>>106252727 (OP)
Is this a good build?
I'm upgrading from a 2080s. Anything obvious that I should change, or anything I'm missing? This will be the first build I've picked all the parts myself
Anonymous No.106256984
I want to learn blender but I'm using vega 56. What's the best sub 150$ gpu I can get? I wouldn't mind fucking around with those data center cards
Anonymous No.106257023
>>106256971
I remember some anons recently shitting on Kingston SSDs so you may want to look into it if there are any known issues. Make sure the memory is 6000cl30
Anonymous No.106257036 >>106257053 >>106257072
>>106256971
>zotac
i would stay away from them because of that recent news of the 5090 solid that literally caught fire
only god knows what kind of corners they have cut on the 5080 version of that card
Anonymous No.106257053 >>106257116 >>106257129 >>106258035
>>106257036
Should I upgrade my 2070 super to a 5060ti or 5070ti, cpu is amd r9 3900x?
Anonymous No.106257072 >>106257086
>>106257036
From my understanding it caught fire cause a MOSFET exploded, something that also happened on an ASUS astral 5090 and can happen on any GPU in general
Anonymous No.106257086
>>106257072
When mosfets die, they do it silently by short circuiting themself while keeping the core safe or at worst, blow a hole in the board.
However, that zotac 5090 solid literally caught ON FIRE for 10 seconds according to the user. I have never seen this happen on any gpu in the last 8 years I've been paying attention to gpus.
Anonymous No.106257116
>>106257053
Or what about 5070? Does vram matter 5060 ti 16gb or 5070 12gb?
Anonymous No.106257117
>>106256921
>he boughted AyyMD
grim
Anonymous No.106257129 >>106257189
>>106257053
forget about the 5060ti 8gb, it's a noob trap. the minimum viable card is the 5060ti 16gb while the 5070 12gb is significantly faster. 5070ti 16gb is nice but your 3900x will bottleneck it
Anonymous No.106257189
>>106257129
I was thinking of 5060 ti 16gb, but 5070 12gb is only 100 bucks more so I'll go with that.
Anonymous No.106257191 >>106257232
>>106256921
>fsr native aa
Anonymous No.106257232 >>106257277 >>106257279 >>106257390
>>106256921
>>106257191
for some reason nvidia retards are so stupid they think dlaa = better than native
Anonymous No.106257277 >>106257486
>>106257232
Yes? It's the best AA I've ever used.
Anonymous No.106257279 >>106257486
>>106257232
uhhhhhhh you might want to look up what DLAA is
Anonymous No.106257373 >>106257635 >>106258099
>>106254635
9950x3d is already $700, so the double D version is going to be $800? lol they should also release a 24 core one that costs $1000
Anonymous No.106257390 >>106257486
>>106257232
isthisbait.tga
Anonymous No.106257393
>>106254378
A Mac or an i3 with no discrete video running Debian
I do both
Anonymous No.106257410
>>106254397
Any of them, really
You could handicap yourself by buying an M1 but are you REALLY going to need a shittier computer just to β€œmake sure” you’re not tempted by the latest Assassin’s Creed
Anonymous No.106257486 >>106257510
>>106257277
>>106257279
>>106257390
Anonymous No.106257510 >>106257552
>>106257486
this is TAA ghosting
Anonymous No.106257552 >>106257592
>>106257510
dlaa = taa
Anonymous No.106257586 >>106257598
>>106252727 (OP)
Why does the Spraypaint job look so bad?
Anonymous No.106257592
>>106257552
DLAA is much better than TAA, most modern games are TAA, DLAA, or no AA at all
MSAA is dead
Anonymous No.106257598
>>106257586
its russian
Anonymous No.106257620
Pretty happy with my 9070xt. Then again, I was 8gb VRAM.

Not happy with their software. It was far more simplified compared to Nvidia surround (doing a triple monitor setup). I can't align my screens properly, and there isn't even a reference image in Eyefinity "Pro."
Anonymous No.106257635
>>106257373
maybe they'll keep the same price if intel drops arrowlake pricing with the arrowlake refresh lineup. otherwise, expect $800 or $900 msrps
Anonymous No.106257663 >>106257785 >>106257809 >>106257866 >>106257984
$2600 GPU with problems
Anonymous No.106257731
How much of an upgrade will be the shift from 2060 Super to 5060 Ti 16GB?
Anonymous No.106257733
>>106254548
Get an Elbrus, retard
Anonymous No.106257753 >>106258297
My build is up and running well.
Lian Li Lancool 207
32 gb DDR5 4800 MT/s
AMD Ryzen 9800X3D
NVIDIA 5070 Ti (GeForce Gaming OC)
2TB Crucial P3 Plus M.2 PCIe Gen 4 NVMeSSD

I just need to figure out how to get Microaoft Ofdice now. It looks like they no longer offer Home & Student 2021, so all those products keys are moot.
Anonymous No.106257760 >>106257948 >>106257982
>OP recommends 5060TI
LMFAO
Anonymous No.106257768 >>106257857 >>106258059
>>106252727 (OP)
How do you prefer your marketing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1-rWNgZKRU
Waifu kawaii uguu or

12 YEAR OLD XTREME EDGE?
Anonymous No.106257783 >>106257793
>>106256855
>Why did you pair an nvidia Gpu with an AMD Cpu Rebar provides no performance boost unlike AMD's SAM
For someone who claims to be aware of a trillion-dollar corporation's marketing tactics, you completely fell for AMD's marketing bullshit.

>Rebar provides no performance boost unlike AMD's SAM
This just means AMD Radeon GPUs are much more VRAM bottlenecked because they have smaller L1 (32 KB vs. 128 KB per WGP/SM) and L2 (8 MB vs. 48 MB) caches by comparison.

>Muh 64 MB L3/Infinity Cache
The smaller L1 & L2 are causing the SRAM bottleneck anyway; that's why Radeon chips are so dependent on SAM.
Anonymous No.106257785
>>106257663
works on my machine
Anonymous No.106257793 >>106257816
>>106257783
you’re talking to nicotroon
Anonymous No.106257809
>>106257663
>GPU will not respond to anymore commands
Anonymous No.106257816
>>106257793
It's worth educating everyone else. The 5070 Ti has 4x the L1 and 6x the L2 cache compared to the 9070 XT.
That's why it doesn't rely as much on the VRAM, and that's why GeForce chips are generally more power efficient.
Anonymous No.106257854 >>106258073 >>106258098
AMD, where is that 9950x3d2, I'm getting nervous.
Anonymous No.106257857
>>106257768
For me it's the XxX_K4waiiW4aifu_XxXTREMEULTIMATE
Anonymous No.106257866
>>106257663
>5_14_2025_Capture_001.jpg
>5_14_2025
Desperation.
Anonymous No.106257868
>>106255335
Like others anon wrote, that codec is USB wired, and you are not only with such issues.
Honestly you shouldn't judge mobos by the codec, easiest option is to buy some cheap DAC, even USB dongle, pretty much any will be better than whatever realtek codec
Also it's possible to use you Nvidia card as a sound card, same with the iGPU.
Anonymous No.106257948 >>106257982
>>106257760
the OP has been retarded for years.
Building a computer takes research and planning. There is no easy cheat sheet.
Anonymous No.106257982 >>106260703
>>106257760
>>106257948
A Sapphire Pulse 9060 XT 16GB costs $380, 5060 Ti 16GB is the better all-rounder and can be bought for $430.
5060 Ti 16GB and the last-gen 4060 Ti 16GB are accepted as entry-level workstation cards; there are studio drivers for GeForce cards.
Anonymous No.106257984 >>106258027
>>106257663
>Battlefield 6 Open Beta
>Beta
Say no more
Anonymous No.106258010
>>106256971
anon you dont need that mobo go for an affordable b850m , you can go for cheaper ssd,s for gaming you dont need such ssds itll be a waste of time go for cheaper options with a dram such as gigabyte kioxia acer predator and so on , idk about the rams but go for the lowest CL and cheapestt 6000mhz , for the case go for a lian li 207 idk about the gpu , will it be worth to get 10-15 fps more than a 5070ti/9070xt for that amount of money ? you choose , and for the liquid cooler x3d cards are efficient and you wont see high temps with them head for air coolers such as thermalright deepcool or if you have the money noctua (its pretty expensive i would never touch that brand)
Anonymous No.106258027 >>106258093
>>106257984
it works great on AMD though
Anonymous No.106258035 >>106259285
>>106257053
dont 2070super is still a viable option compared to those id only go for a 9060xt 16gb if you have a FHD setup or go for a 2nd hand 3080/4080
Anonymous No.106258059
>>106257768
the incel/gymcel legion will always be the winner over the gooners WE ARE (D)EVIL NIGGA
Anonymous No.106258073
>>106257854
there will be a huge fuckery coming up because we havent received the 9600x3d cpus also i wouldnt be suprized if they had cancelled it and moved to 9700x3d according to the leak but the most horrifying thing is the zen6 release is also approaching
Anonymous No.106258093 >>106258114
>>106258027
So we're not going to reference TechPowerUp if they didn't experience any technical issues with the title?
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/battlefield-6-open-beta-performance-benchmark/
Anonymous No.106258098 >>106258306
>>106257854
it hasnt even been announced bro
amds probably waiting until more 9950x3d's are gone from the market before launching it
Anonymous No.106258099
>>106257373
There wont be a double D version, the same rumored double x3d CCDs existed when the 5000 ryzen released
Anonymous No.106258103 >>106258138
hold on my prior calculations on screen bandwidth are wrong
DP2.1 max bandwidth is 80gbps right, dsc can apparently compress it 3:1 which leaves is with 240gbps bandwidth of dsc, 234 after overhead apparently

what does this mean? that means we could have native 4k 1000hz oleds right now but we don't because manufacturers are lazy bastards
Anonymous No.106258114 >>106258147
>>106258093
i don't understand your post
it doesn't work on anon's 5090
it works great on my 9070 XT
so it works on AMD but not on NVIDIA
Anonymous No.106258133 >>106258932
I went to pick-up XG27ACS from a computer store, after waiting 30m in line turns out it was out of stock.
Anonymous No.106258138 >>106258154
>>106258103
i'd rather have working anti-blur tech on a 240hz oled that doesnt cause migraines and have a huge brightness hit than a 1000hz display without anti-blur.
Anonymous No.106258147 >>106258165 >>106258178
>>106258114
TechPowerUp tested ten different GeForce cards for BF6 and did not experience crashes or performance issues worth talking about.
This is the kind of content the handful of AMD cheerleaders use to cite when the editor experiences performance issues on GeForce cards (Blackwell GPUs sometimes crashing in the early version of Clair Obscur).
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/clair-obscur-expedition-33-performance-benchmark/8.html
Anonymous No.106258154 >>106258170
>>106258138
does BFI cause headaches like strobing or not? idk
you gonna halve the brightness
they just need to make 2x brighter oleds at the double the hz I guess
Anonymous No.106258165 >>106258181
>>106258147
>did not experience crashes or performance issues worth talking about
ok? they probably benchmarked the game for 5 minutes on each card
i'd rather trust someone who has actually played the game
Anonymous No.106258170
>>106258154
it depends on implementation afaik
like if they go crazy with low hz pwm to regulate brightness, you will get migraines
Anonymous No.106258178 >>106258193
>>106258147
They had to disable DLSS upscaling in the beta because the newest nvidia drivers were crashing the game
Anonymous No.106258181 >>106258190
>>106258165
Yes, someone who played the game like other AMD processor owners.
Anonymous No.106258190 >>106258209
>>106258181
i don't care what redditors do with their computers
you should go back there
Anonymous No.106258193
>>106258178
>They had to disable DLSS upscaling in the beta because the newest nvidia drivers were crashing the game
Bullshit. Frame generation didn't work, but that's a beta/game issue.
Anonymous No.106258209 >>106259193
>>106258190
The open beta product has niggling issues and affects AMD processors as well, wherever you search.
Anonymous No.106258233
I'm not into edgy gaming aesthetics....I've just built a completely dragon themed setup and I'm naming my monitors after the Targaryen Conquest-era dragons.
Anonymous No.106258267 >>106258330 >>106258341 >>106258396 >>106259193
BF6 beta's exposing cards with vulnerable power delivery.
Not surprising 3080 Tis are dying, but 9070 XT Hellhounds are affected too.
https://forums.ea.com/discussions/battlefield-6-beta-technical-issues-en/battlefield-6-killed-my-gpu/12439377
Anonymous No.106258274 >>106258295
>>106256855
>64GB's which is practically useless outside of gaming
Many work applications will want twice that much
Anonymous No.106258295
>>106258274
He's a retard neet.
That's why he's shilling SAM all the time without realizing it's just patching a cache bottleneck.
Anonymous No.106258297
>>106257753
https://massgrave.dev/
Anonymous No.106258306
>>106258098
>are gone from the market
Well the listings are disappearing from the market so that's going to be tough.
Anonymous No.106258318 >>106258323 >>106258324 >>106258358 >>106258370
How bad are the constant news about Intel shitting itself going to affect the Arc division? Should I move on from "m-maybe Arc will make the GPU market less shit" cope into just full on hopeless seething?
Anonymous No.106258323
>>106258318
bad news for the drivers at least
Anonymous No.106258324
>>106258318
Expect nothing. If something good happens then everything turns out better than expected. If something bad happens then you were prepared.
Anonymous No.106258330 >>106258352 >>106258363 >>106258401 >>106258447
>>106258267
>games killing gpus
>have high end gpu for several years nothing happen
>run game that kills it
nobody is safe
did consoles win?
wait for the xbox pc, sirs
with how much people are cheating, the only solution is running games on a closed system like a console, until people connect their controllers and AI-assisted screen cheats that snipe people though
multiplayer gaming is dead, it's over
this the type of shit that makes you not wanna buy a high end gpu in case it offs itself
Anonymous No.106258341 >>106258359 >>106258401
>>106258267
all of those 5090/9070XT errors are probably cards getting fried, grim
Anonymous No.106258352 >>106258391
>>106258330
>did consoles win?
That would be a loss for all true gamers, since only PCs can play/emulate old games, which are the only good games
Anonymous No.106258358
>>106258318
Intel missed the smartphone/ultraportable SoC train, and they've also missed the AI hardware train.
There's no guarantee Intel will continue to develop discrete GPUs.
They'll make iGPUs for mobile processors.
Anonymous No.106258359
>>106258341
It's actually a good thing. "People" who play that sort of garbage should be punished.
Anonymous No.106258363 >>106258378 >>106258391
>>106258330
>did consoles win?
A console is a computer.
Anonymous No.106258370
>>106258318
At this point you should move to the Moore Threads and Lisuan.
Anonymous No.106258378
>>106258363
An AMD computer at that, baby!
Anonymous No.106258389
>>106255404
not him but the Realtek ACL 40XX models don't use USB, they are garbage that use USB and retarded motherboard vendors started shipping them since last generation, I purposely bought a board with an ALC1220 just because I was aware of all the firmware bugs with that audio chip, look into updating the firmware for it, I know at least MSI provides a "firmware update tool" specifically for the USB audio, that should help.
Anonymous No.106258391 >>106258465
>>106258363
yeah but it's a closed eco system so people can't install cheets
or you allow china to have kernel level access to your main pc, didnt battlefield have the same level anticheats and people still cheated on the beta?

>>106258352
if you could buy a goyslop device to play live service games that guaranteed 0 cheating though it would be worth it for that purpose only
only for that reason
singleplayer games don't need that shit
Anonymous No.106258396
>>106258267
kek wtf
Anonymous No.106258401 >>106258419
>>106258330
>>games killing gpus
More like these games are exposing poor reference video card designs.

>>106258341
DirectX Error isn't exclusive to Blackwell/GeForce cards, and they're not killing any video cards.
DX12 exposes bad game code.
Anonymous No.106258419 >>106258530
>>106258401
>powercolor
>xfx
arent these reputable
Anonymous No.106258447 >>106258477 >>106258538
>>106258330
>did consoles win?
BF6 beta's also causing Series X shutdowns.
Typical Radeon fanboys selectively posting GeForce-related technical issues.
https://forums.ea.com/discussions/battlefield-6-beta-technical-issues-en/bf6-beta-crash-causing-xbox-series-to-shut-down/12427120
Anonymous No.106258465 >>106258538
>>106258391
>can't install cheets
*Can't easily. People have figured out how to break open consoles since they were first being produced. It just was a bit more difficult.
Anonymous No.106258477 >>106258538
>>106258447
Back when Cyberpunk was a hideous mess I actually had it be the underlying reason for a PSU and HDD dying.
Anonymous No.106258530 >>106258621
>>106258419
The GPU designers (NVIDIA, AMD, Intel) are responsible for sharing reliable reference designs & component/cooling requirements.
The AIBs are mostly allowed to add more power phases or use better cooling, but they can't make critical design changes.
That's why GeForce board partners can't make the 12V-2x6 connector any safer; they need to follow NVIDIA's power design.
Anonymous No.106258538 >>106258619 >>106258627
>>106258447
shutdown is alot better than out right killing

>>106258465
other than the controllers people use or whatever screen aim assist thing yes but install on os level?
that's why I said

>>106258477
>hdd
Anonymous No.106258619 >>106259038
>>106258538
>hdd
yes? Do you not have storage drives plugged into any of your computers?
Anonymous No.106258621 >>106258639 >>106258650 >>106258741
>>106258530
>That's why GeForce board partners can't make the 12V-2x6 connector any safer; they need to follow NVIDIA's power design.
They can add two
Anonymous No.106258624 >>106258786
do i want to overpay 2$ for peerless assassin se v2 as opposed to just se?
Anonymous No.106258627 >>106259038
>>106258538
>but install on os level
Are you un-ironically 12 years old? Yes. Consoles are nothing special and have never been special. There is no magic technology that separates them from a standard computer.
Anonymous No.106258639 >>106258791
>>106258621
So why haven't they?
Anonymous No.106258645 >>106258664 >>106258686 >>106259205 >>106259754
Any ideas why NVIDIA driver update can cause eye strain?

>had GTX 1060
>536.xx drivers
>everything is fine can game and stare at display for 13 hours aday
>PoE2 comes out
>says drivers obsolete
>try upgrading to whatever was latest at the time
>548.xx something
>fucking eyes bleeding out of sockets
>fuck around with dithering, didn't fix anything, revert
>fast forward few years
>buy 4070 Ti Super
>536.xx drivers don't support it
>upgrade to 566.36
>screenshot all settings, everything looks the same

It is not as bad as the last time I tried upgrading drivers, but it still makes me very sleepy after few hours of use. Like, I can tell my vigor returning when I turn away from monitor or go out for snacks.

Now, I don't get migraines or red eyes from those drivers like it was before, but it does tire my eyes and make me sleepy very quickly. I've found this thread so this isn't one off issue, nor does it seem to be limited to NVIDIA https://ledstrain.org/d/1524-eye-strain-with-new-gpu/146

What I tried:
>digital vibrance: 35, reduced brighntess, contrast and gamma for blue channel
>fucking around with Hz of monitors, currently at standard 60
>Color output mode: fucked around with limited & full
>fucked around with sRGB and NVIDIA Profile Inspector & gradient PNG: dithering seems to be completely off on my system, which is common culprit for eye strain
Anonymous No.106258650 >>106258683
>>106258621
Defeats the purpose of going with 12V-2x6 (not needing a larger PCB), reserved for XOC models.
The 4090 Matrix didn't need it either.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-4090-matrix-platinum/3.html
Anonymous No.106258662 >>106258765
Does anyone here have any experience with those ali express moblie cpus modified to work on desktop motherboards? I saw some engineering sample that claims to be a 10th gen 8 core unlocked chip that works on almost any lga 1151 motherboard for around 70 bucks. How retarded of an idea would it be to pick up the cheapest z170 motherboard I can find, flash modified bios and buy that cpu?
Anonymous No.106258664 >>106258682 >>106259009
>>106258645
>currently at standard 60
the fuck are u doing using 60hz in 2025? just buy a non-PWM IPS with 144-165hz they are around 100-150$.
Anonymous No.106258672 >>106258699
Should I grab a 9070XT for 670€?
Currently have a 4070 super. I've been having trouble for quite a while with it on linux and I couldn't give two fucks about generating shit. I have an RM850x shift PSU, should be enough I hope.
Anonymous No.106258682 >>106258688
>>106258664
I don't want a bigger monitor.
Anonymous No.106258683 >>106258700
>>106258650
You say they couldn't make it safer, you can make it safer by adding two.
Quit lying
Anonymous No.106258686
>>106258645
>I've found this thread so this isn't one off issue, nor does it seem to be limited to NVIDIA https://ledstrain.org/d/1524-eye-strain-with-new-gpu/146
Community of schizos reinforcing their beliefs.

>>screenshot all settings, everything looks the same
There's your truth.
Anonymous No.106258688 >>106258705 >>106259009
>>106258682
rofl, then enjoy ur eyestrain and retardation
Anonymous No.106258699
>>106258672
itd be cheaper to install windows
Anonymous No.106258700 >>106258713
>>106258683
The 4090 Matrix didn't need it, and nothing else needs it.
The Galax OC lab edition has two for 1200W of power delivery, not for safety.
Anonymous No.106258702 >>106258995 >>106259018
>>106252727 (OP)
>file deleted
Anonymous No.106258705 >>106258812
>>106258688
I will wait for someone genuine anon that is not a retarded troll to comment. Because I clearly stated that monitor wasn't the issue with older GPU & drivers. If you try to solve clear software issue by changing hardware - you are fucking stupid.
Anonymous No.106258713 >>106258739
>>106258700
Why bring up GeForce then if there is zero wrong with it?
Why lie in saying it can't be made safer?
Anonymous No.106258739 >>106258804
>>106258713
The only products with more than one of these are designed to draw over 600W with an XOC BIOS.
NVIDIA's not allowing board partners to split a 600W total power draw across two connectors, that would make their FE look bad.
Anonymous No.106258741
>>106258621
not allowed by nvidia either since galax did that on the 5090D HOF but it was only a limited run
Anonymous No.106258765 >>106258848
>>106258662
just make sure its not an early ES with stability problems and has an unlocked multiplier so you won't be stuck at sub 3.5ghz clocks. also don't expect it to be able to overclock memory well at all since the shim interposer degrades ddr signal quality.
Anonymous No.106258786 >>106258909
>>106258624
If it has different fans, yes. But V3 is the one with new fans (lower noise level at the same static pressure).
Anonymous No.106258791
>>106258639
Galax made such variants for 4090 and 5090
Anonymous No.106258804 >>106258822 >>106258839
>>106258739
>NVIDIA's not allowing board partners to split a 600W total power draw across two connectors
They are, even GN said so in talks with AIBs, it was misunderstood they couldn't but Nvidia does allow it.
It's why Galax it's allowed to do it because ultimately Nvidia allows it.
Unless you believe Nvidia carved out an exception for XOC which would be a real retarded assertion for you to make.
Anonymous No.106258812 >>106258841 >>106259009 >>106259754
>>106258705
I am genuinely certain you are a retard. PWM is the only thing on a monitor that can cause eye strain / fatigue, has nothing to do with fucking drivers, dithering, or some other nonsense.
Anonymous No.106258822 >>106258838 >>106258861
>>106258804
>They are, even GN said so in talks with AIBs
Cite it. Link the exact timestamps.
The 5090D was a limited production run. Don't act like Galax is standardizing these.
Anonymous No.106258826 >>106258836
What is a cheap gpu to get to finish out a spare parts gaming build?
I'm looking at a 2080ti and wondering if it's worth the 250 or if I should splurge and get something newer/better
Anonymous No.106258836 >>106258846
>>106258826
why are you building it in the first place
Anonymous No.106258838 >>106258853 >>106258855
>>106258822
>The 5090D was a limited production run
NTA but that's wrong. its the China variant of the 5090 to get around some export sanctions. Hell they are doing a V2 version of it even
Anonymous No.106258839 >>106259097
>>106258804
its probably allowed with big asterisks like nvidia not guaranteeing chips placed on dual connector boards because of implied overclocking risk
Anonymous No.106258841 >>106258871
>>106258812
That's fucking great but I will rely on my own empiric experience of NO FUCKING EYESTRAIN ON OLD GPU AND DRIVERS WITH THE SAME MONITOR CAN YOU EVEN READ, NIGGER?
Anonymous No.106258846 >>106258892 >>106258895
>>106258836
I'm making a small build for my dad now that he's retired
He's said to me multiple times he wants to get into video games so I'm just gonna load up a bunch of old man games on it for him
Anonymous No.106258848 >>106258866
>>106258765
It's qtj1, from what I've seen online it's supposed to be a good chip. In theory it's should be something between a 10700k and a 9900k. Do you have any recommendations on what should I look into before pulling the trigger?
Anonymous No.106258853
>>106258838
the dual connector version is only found on earlier batches. the later batches all come with only one connector installed and requires hard modding to have the second connector. that's why its technically limited run.
Anonymous No.106258855
>>106258838
I meant to say the 5090D HOF OC Lab is a limited production model.
Galax doesn't sell any other 5090/D with two 12V-2x6 connectors.
Anonymous No.106258861 >>106258879
>>106258822
Don't need to prove something when the proof physically exists.
Don't get upset because you got caught being wrong
I know it just tears you apart
Anonymous No.106258866 >>106258881
>>106258848
yeah make sure your board has at least 6 but preferably >8 power stages available for vcore. 8-core skylakes can pull a lot of power when clocked high
Anonymous No.106258871
>>106258841
keep telling yourself that but its literally not the driver causing it to begin with. You're probably bumping into some Vsync or VRR setting with your bargain bin decade old second hand slop monitor and you don't even realize it but stop shitting up the pc building thread with ur fucking tech support schizo ramblings.
Anonymous No.106258879 >>106258947
>>106258861
So you have no proof of GN Steve claiming this little bullshit of yours.
The existence of a limited production XOC card designed to pull over 1200W shouldn't be the basis of your argument.
Let me know when Galax sells as HOF Safety Edition with two 12V-2x6 connectors limited to the 600W reference maximum.
Anonymous No.106258881
>>106258866
Thanks man, appreciate it
Anonymous No.106258892
>>106258846
>old man games
There are a lot of newer retro-style games that he might enjoy too.
Anonymous No.106258895
>>106258846
itd be easy to say 5060 but it has 8gb vram so theres no good budget options
I guess 5070 is the only good option, or wait for the supers
Anonymous No.106258909
>>106258786
shieeet there's even a v3 now
Anonymous No.106258932
>>106258133
sorry for that anon what about checking the other shops online ?
Anonymous No.106258947 >>106258969
>>106258879
>claiming this little bullshit of yours.
It's not bullshit
The Galax has it, GN said it
Bury your head in the sand and say it isn't true tho like the shitstain you are in this community
Anonymous No.106258969 >>106259033
>>106258947
>The Galax has it
Only on their special edition (XOC) Hall of Fame SKU, which is no longer in production. It has two connectors to provide over 1200W power, not to deliver 600W more safely.

>GN said it
Still no source/timestamp.
Anonymous No.106258995 >>106259007 >>106259018
>>106258702
Unfucking believable I woke up to a warning, the unpaid janitor situation is getting out of control.
Anonymous No.106259007
>>106258995
go back to your child rape discord
Anonymous No.106259009 >>106259061
>>106258812
>>106258688
>>106258664
Also it IS a non-PWM IPS. "flicker-free" according to manufacturer and passes https://www.testufo.com/blurtrail
Anonymous No.106259018 >>106259027
>>106258702
>>106258995
Why was it deleted anyways? It was just a PC case.
Anonymous No.106259027 >>106259042
>>106259018
Janny had a melty and deleted every post mentioning russia. You can guess what kind of mental illness xhe has.
Anonymous No.106259033 >>106259055
>>106258969
Why should I bother peering though hours of videos just because you reject reality
The Galax has 2 connectors, if Nvidia didn't allow it. The card wouldn't exist in the same from.
Nvidia didn't allow it because the card draws 1200w, the 1200w card exists on the basis that Nvidia approved the design with the two connectors and allowed it into production
Anonymous No.106259038 >>106260255
>>106258619
only if transferring slop
not using it as a main drive or anything
and if I bought more I would buy ssds since they are smaller and available in 8tb prolly

>>106258627
are os-level cheats available on online consoles? I heard about people cheating in ER online on PS but about it don't know how they do it
if you have a jailbroken console I understand but the entire os is encrypted no
last time I checked no
people swap to console and disable cross platform matchmaking to avoid cheaters all the time
what do you mean?
Anonymous No.106259042
>>106259027
That's really weird.
Anonymous No.106259055 >>106259072 >>106259090
>>106259033
>allowed it into production
Because Galax made fewer than a thousand of these.
Limited edition SKUs that can draw over 1200W of power don't represent the board design for 99.9% of the 5090 available for purchase.
Anonymous No.106259061 >>106259094
>>106259009
VRR? FreeSync? Gsync? are those enabled? disable them if so.
Anonymous No.106259066 >>106259083
Looking to rma my 5070 which has horrible performance and on top of it keeps crashing. Fuck nshitea, what amd gpu should I snag?
Anonymous No.106259072
>>106259055
>only 100 sets worldwide
not even a thousand!
Anonymous No.106259083 >>106259115
>>106259066
Post proof of your 5070 ownership, including the RMA confirmation.
If you can't, sign up for therapy.
Anonymous No.106259090 >>106259097 >>106259109
>>106259055
But it does mean Nvidia approved a 2 connector design.
Thus 12VHPWR could be made safer if others follow suit.
I know, ugh it sucks AIBs have a choice but don't take it, you clearly know something is wrong but your mindset is that they are forced so it's acceptable.
Anonymous No.106259094 >>106259104
>>106259061
FreeSync, is disabled in monitor settings.
Anonymous No.106259097 >>106259134
>>106259090
probably comes down to this >>106258839 and no aib is daring enough to cover the cost of a single dead 5090 die let alone thousands/millions
Anonymous No.106259104 >>106259172
>>106259094
and in the nvidia panel / windows?
Anonymous No.106259109 >>106259174
>>106259090
They allowed it based on Galax making a limited edition 5090D designed to handle over 600W of power.
No one else has made a 5090/4090 limited to 600W with two 12V-2x6 connectors, which would make NVIDIA's FE look bad.

>because you reject reality
That' you. This is the reality.
Anonymous No.106259115 >>106259137 >>106259141
>>106259083
I'm not going to post shit for you fucking corp fanboy retard, it's well known the 5000 series has massive driver issues and I'm just tired of them. Not to mention bought this thing before 12gb vram apparently became obsolete leading to horrific 1% lows that none of the reviewers ever talk about.
Anonymous No.106259124 >>106259228 >>106259304 >>106259754
Intel exclusive graphics feature "smooth sync" is causing this artifacts.
Reported, Intel should pay me. But aside that my Arc GPU really rock solid.
Anonymous No.106259134 >>106259403
>>106259097
Doesn't matter
Clearly Nvidia isn't that rigid in a single 12VHPWR
The VBIOS still defines the power limit, 2 connectors doesn't mean it has to consume 1200w.
Anonymous No.106259137
>>106259115
and then everybody clapped. nigga stop making up bullshit and provide proof that u own the card.
Anonymous No.106259141
>>106259115
>corp fanboy retard
Radeon projection, you're the one making up stories.
Anonymous No.106259150
>>106256795
1440p was viable over a decade ago.
4k is the meme that relies on upscaling and serves no improvement because monitors are too small to utilize the extra resolution in desktop settings as well.
Anonymous No.106259167
>>106256971
5080 is a meme card. buy a 5070 ti or a 4090/5090 if you MUST have novidio.
or wait for super, but still avoid the 80 class. it's a dogshit card for people too stupid to buy the 70ti and too poor to buy the 90.
Anonymous No.106259172 >>106259178
>>106259104
There's not even an option anywhere in Windows or NVIDIA panel to enable it. I assume I would need to enable FreeSync on the monitor itself first, then reboot/replug the cable. Which I have never done before, so pretty sure VRR is off.
Anonymous No.106259174 >>106259202
>>106259109
So your whole idea is that Nvidia made an exception but won't allow others because it would make the FE look bad
You are really grasping auto make it seem like AIBs just have zero agency
Anonymous No.106259178 >>106259234
>>106259172
it should be under "game mode" or something
Anonymous No.106259193
>>106258209
>>106258267
new world 2.0?
Anonymous No.106259202 >>106259253
>>106259174
>make it seem like AIBs just have zero agency
Because it's the truth?
Why do you think none of the AIBs are allowed to fix the uneven 12V-2x6 current distribution by following the 3090 Ti's power connector layout?
Because that would make the FE look worse.
Anonymous No.106259205
>>106258645
sounds like you're a hypochondriac schizophrenic.
Anonymous No.106259228
>>106259124
my school loans me intel APU laptops, they are miserable experiences. trying to deal with the drivers on that thing.
Anonymous No.106259234 >>106259250
>>106259178
I've a legacy NVIDIA control panel. The only thing it has is VSync which I've always kept at "adaptive".

If you meant Windows "Game mode" I've never even heard of it before, but it is OFF. In Windows "Graphic Settings"
"hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling" is ON.
"graphics performance preference" is set to "Desktop app" which I think means non-DCH NVIDIA Control panel that I have installed.
Anonymous No.106259250 >>106259299
>>106259234
I meant this, but I assume you're right that if its disabled on the monitor it should in theory be disabled in windows. wouldnt hurt to enable it on the monitor and on windows to test though.
Anonymous No.106259253 >>106259310
>>106259202
>Because it's the truth?
You want it to be the truth
You're whole shtick is making sure AIBs get all the credit and glory for any innovation or even just making cards, but do absolutely anything to downplay their responsibility when shit goes wrong with things they ultimately sell.
You really stick out in here with that horseshit
Anonymous No.106259285
>>106258035
Bf6 doesn't run so I need a new one.
Anonymous No.106259299 >>106259334
>>106259250
Yeah, enabling it in the monitor opened up G-Sync option in NVIDIA Control panel.

Thanks for suggestion anon, I will test things with it off and on.
Anonymous No.106259301
>>106259283
>>106259283
>>106259283
Anonymous No.106259304
>>106259124
what you're actually seeing is broken MPOs
windows explorer is the MPO test for gpus
Anonymous No.106259310 >>106259380
>>106259253
If AIBs were allowed to design balanced & safer 5090/4090 current delivery like the 3090 Ti's reference design, they would've done that to market their models as the safer cards.
People are recommending Astral 5090 just for the current monitoring feature, there's an unfulfilled market demand because NVIDIA doesn't allow that.

But go on with your schizo bullshit about me.
Anonymous No.106259334 >>106259343
>>106259299
you need to tick the box in option 3 before it will be enabled FYI.
Anonymous No.106259343 >>106259376
>>106259334
Yeah, I figured. Just confirmed the option is there and it's disabled for now.
Anonymous No.106259376 >>106259391
>>106259343
also run ur screens at 75hz, 60hz drops frames in most movies because of rounding.
Anonymous No.106259380 >>106259455
>>106259310
AIB bad nVidia good
Anonymous No.106259391
>>106259376
I will test this but I remember it worked like ass back in Windows 7.
Anonymous No.106259403
>>106259134
>Clearly Nvidia isn't that rigid in a single 12VHPWR
Because their own 4090 FE and 5090 FE can also deliver the maximum 600W power that's specced for the single 12VHPWR/12V-2x6 connector.
Anonymous No.106259455 >>106259849
>>106259380
ESL-tier reading comprehension.
I'm blaming NVIDIA for not allowing AIBs to design boards that a safer than NVIDIA's FE cards.
Any 5090 that has better current balancing will instantly become the most popular & highly recommended model.
AIBs already know how to assemble one because they've used these boards for the 3090 Ti.
Anonymous No.106259754
>>106258812
>PWM is the only thing on a monitor that can cause eye strain / fatigue
I'm not him btw, but this is not what the schizos on blurbusters say, they list 10000000's of different things that can cause it and it's a neverending rabbithole
and you didn't even list the most common one which is brightness apparently? tf

>>106258645
Like others say. might be high level schizophrenia, never heard of an update fucking you up
I did had mild eye strain trying out qdoled lately though, trouble focusing

>>106259124
>finished on intel guy is watching asmongo on 2x in PIP due to single screen not being able to afford a second screen
Poorfaggot... I Kneel
Anonymous No.106259849 >>106259877
>>106259455
>Any 5090 that has better current balancing will instantly become the most popular
Not if you do it like Asus and charge 30 to 50% more.
Anonymous No.106259877 >>106259943
>>106259849
The 5090 Astral's sold fine just with its current monitoring feature (no power delivery modifications).
People are willing to pay a premium for a safer 600W card.
Anonymous No.106259943
>>106259877
I got one myself but there are upcoming things like the wireview pro 2 with ampere monitoring per pin or seasonics new feature and both have the advantage that they can emergency shut down from what I get without some software required on windows.
Anonymous No.106260255 >>106260370
>>106259038
a 20tb HDD costs 200 dollars. an 8 tb SSD costs 400.
Anonymous No.106260370 >>106260450
>>106260255
but hdds are fuck huge and weigh a shit ton
small external ssds are tiny and just require usb for power
Anonymous No.106260450
>>106260370
Okay? I need significantly more storage space than what SSDs offer and HDDs are the best for me. I don't know what the fuck you're trying to argue.
Anonymous No.106260703 >>106260908
>>106257982
if you're buying a PC it should be able to play games better than a console
Anonymous No.106260908
>>106260703
The 5060 Ti 16GB is the better overall gaming card compared to a 9060 XT 16GB and a Series X / PS5.
Those console GPUs are a stripped-down laptop RX 6700 (no infinity cache).