Thread 106295814

Jensen Huang is not going to be happy about this and honestly I don't think even the US will appreciate Tech Jesus exposing how their laws are a joke either.

LONG LIVE TECH JESUS

>>106295814 (OP)
>Tech Jesus did it
Did what? Suck cock like OP?

I can always appreciate quality investigative journalism.

so much vram can Brother Ching Pong solder unto my GPU?

so when does he go into hiding

>>106295814 (OP)
Is his shirt a banksy referrence? wow, such anti-culture, much edge

motherfucker this shit is 23GB

Ummmm, AI xisters?

Oh SHIT, Shkreli went BOOM BOOM again

Big tech is NOT gonna be happy when this goes viral

>>106295814 (OP)
Good morning sirs! I just finding out about this man... Supbscriping to youtube now sirs

>>106295814 (OP)
>Still no worthwhile AI product

POP

Gay ass thread full of retards

whole lotta samefag ITT

>>106295814 (OP)
post the rink
https://youtu.be/1H3xQaf7BFI

>>106296118
<3

QUESTION

is it true tensor cores don't help gaming?

>>106295814 (OP)
His tech hobo's ""journalism"" is going to tank NVDA and my investment growth?

>>106295814 (OP)
>>106296118
buy a fucking ad faggots

Have the faggot kids returned to school yet?
Fucking tired of watching eceleb threads this often

1:03:16
amd breaks a lot. he's 100% right. i reinstalled linux to try to get hip working after updating. now i know i need a system backup so i can roll back if updates break stuff

>>106296548
lunatic

>>106296542
probably not. but did jensen put tensor cores in the 4090 as an export ban dodge?

>>106297028
>People also ask
>Does the RTX 4090 have tensor cores?
>It features 16384 shading units, 512 texture mapping units, and 176 ROPs. Also included are 512 tensor cores which help improve the speed of machine learning applications.

>>106297051
arso incrude vely smol soopa compu-ah

>>106297136
don't you mean snoopa?

like it or not china is the cyberpunk future we all crave to see. i wish i can go there to be a space cowboy, snort cheap drugs, live like a scum, use gpus with modded vram and die under some bridge under weird circumstances

>>106295814 (OP)
>Tech Jesus did it
Died for our tech sins?

amazing that people think nvidia will ever give 2 fucking shits about consumers when shareholder primacy compels them to only care insofar as they support growth. consumers are lucky to receive crumbs of hardware at this point when you consider the implications. These reptilians (including amd and intel) will have us all on black box thin client phones and terminals streaming video to them for all our computing from datacenters the second they solve the latency question.

so far, takeaway is:
amd sucks
intel who
4090 is very popular

>>106295814 (OP)
Thanks Steve

>>106295814 (OP)
Good documentary. Could have been about an hour shorter though.

>>106295814 (OP)
This tranny has already been debunked.

>>106295814 (OP)
I think it was cool until the US government decided to just let china have them (because they knew they couldn't stop them) for a 15% cut, and Nvidia was more than happy to suck trumps dick
>basically the whole story took months to shoot, write, and edit is completely irrelevant at release.

>>106298215
Exactly, many parts were just filler without any relevant information. And when there was information both footage and commentary were duplicated multiple times. I think they made a lot of effort to create this content and didn't want to strip too much of it.

As for content itself, I'm bit disappointed, because didn't actually get deeper as the promised. They spoke to end-user resellers that go to literally a tech market and buy of the shelf gpus and sell them online. Still good perspective that everything is available.

I think the biggest takeway is that H20 is sold. And this is huge, because even if it is slower, it still has enough memory to be perfectly usable.

And lol at AMD. I mean that's not surprising, ROCm is trash and hard to make it work if your whole ecosystem is cuda based. Even in pytorch it doesn't work well, which has native support for ROCm...

>>106296006
14th post best post

>>106297749
>>106298274
You know a GPU is trash if Chinese smugglers and back-alley engineers do not want an AMD card.

>>106295915
I thought shkreli was jewish. He's actually albanian from the balkans.

>>106298564
i want to know why they are so expensive if no one wants them

>>106298236
^ tranny

>>106298274
>As for content itself, I'm bit disappointed, because didn't actually get deeper as the promised. They spoke to end-user resellers that go to literally a tech market and buy of the shelf gpus and sell them online.
brother everyone interviewed after the bilibili guy were smugglers, you can't get much deeper. were you imagining dudes in trenchcoats with shipping containers of illegal GPUs hidden inside furniture?

>>106298821
you want deep?

100% of foxcon workers are on meth

>>106298971
i would be too

>>106295814 (OP)
>45 minutes of content
>stretched to 3 hours
This fat hobo really needs a better editor
>>106298789
cause they produce like 3 gpus for every 100 that nvidia does

>>106298982
>aaiiiieeee my tiktok brain can't handle interviews chatgpt please summarize the video

>>106298982
i've googled and mi cards are no bargain, may as well usually get nvidia. seems strange that amd can perfectly sell just exactly the right amount to stay expensive.

>>106298236
Hi Linus! Still seething about your Exposé

>>106298984
i thought the cousin network aspect was fascinating. kinship networks are relevant to amd/nvidia as well.

my guess is since they are kin there are hidden agreements. since they are offbooks and based on blood ties, we may never be able to probe them.

>>106298993
theres no incentive for amd to get into a price war with nvidia cause they have neither the money for it nor a product worth a damn (and in low quantities, too). so they sell what trash they have to idiots looking for a deal, only for the idiots to realize they’ve been pumped and refuse to ever go amd again - but that doesn’t matter as amd produces fuck all wuantities so just one idiot once in a while is enough
>but muh 9070 good
their consoomer drivers are infinitely better than their enterprise drivers, which amuses me immensely since you have to be truly fucking stupid to prioritize little timmy with his $400 over SoullessCorp with their $400m

by the time they get their shit together we’ll likely see the bubble pop and all the hardware will be worthless

Speak a little Chinese for em Steve

I don’t trust fat people

>>106299229
I don't trust Chinese people.

>>106298759
Yep. The shrew is no Jew.

>>106295814 (OP)

Why is any of this his concern? Isn't it up
to the US government to determine if the black market is a problem? What's the big deal?

The US creates obstacles for Chinese AI research, but not so onerous that American products are not purchased. The US govt & Nvidia are content with the current state of play, it's an imperfect blocade which serves its purpose. Steve is just being autistic.

>>106295814 (OP)
>almost witnesses a chinese workplace accident at 2:21:20

>>106295814 (OP)
I don't get it, why are all the comments here just garbage bait and memes. Isn't this a technology board? Why isn't anyone talking about the post?

>>106299229
>>106299311
and yet people trust jensen

I watched it for like 30 minutes and it put me to sleep.

>>106295814 (OP)
Dont give a shit.
Nothing is going to come of it.
No i'm not paying 10,000x the value for some shitty dice.

>>106299695

Nvidia psyop.

Overwhelm any GN post with an army of (not) bots. Drown out the conversations.

There is no black market in ba sing se.

I mean, it's pretty much the standard smuggling practices. This is not the real high volume smuggling channels though, but it is dangerous as this could show leads to other smuggling routes (weapons, drugs, human trafficking), which are the real economy building blocks.

>>106300032
The channels are not individually high volume, but there are many of them together.

>>106298564
I wish that were true. Would love a 9070XT below MSRP right now.

>>106295814 (OP)
I get the feeling he should actually start fearing for his life now.

>>106295814 (OP)
I'm not watching a fuckinh LoTR movie about gpus and shit. Give me a proper tldr
Nvidia are greedy jews? Everyone knew that already

>>106295814 (OP)
very unhealthy neck that the guy has. is he type 2 diabetic?

>>106297170
i don't know what a space cowboys is but you can easily do the rest

>>106300032
what? smuggling drugs and weapons are nothing like smuggling gpus
gpus are legal in both china and usa. you are allowed to take them on a plane and in the video he said that chinese students regularly take them for "personal use" and no one gives a shit (maybe not even the export laws, but im not sure). compare that to guns, youd be fucked if you were caught trying to bring one on a plane. itll also have to go through customs on the china side and theres no ambiguity of whether its legal or not as there is with gpus (steve said that the tsa agents probably cant tell a banned gpu from a legal one, not the case with guns). guns also show up on xray much clearer
smuggling drugs is similar but a bit different. its harder because you can sniff drugs, and harder again because they are illegal on both sides of the airport

>>106300615
the tldr is that nvida knows but doesnt care that their gpus are being exported illegally
its incredibly easy to get hold of a banned card but its much harder to get a hold of a hundred cards
chinese factory workers can modify cards to boost specs (adding vram) and fix them better than any western repair shop could dream of
most of the people he interviewed were either traders or normal non ai bros that want servers (think schools or hospitals)
unsaid, but now the chinese guys making the chinese ais will make them run on less hardware and have less bloat

>>106295814 (OP)
>Adds ominous chink music as a soundtrack to the video.
Lol.

>>106295814 (OP)
Why should I care though? How is this relevant to anybody other than US government?

>>106295814 (OP)
required viewing, the shit happening will shape society

>>106301360
Do you say this about every documentary ever made?
Whats the point of replying to say you don't care?

>>106301392
I'm just curious what the ultimate point this video is trying to make. It's a 3 hour documentary. That there's smuggling to China? I would've guessed. How does this affect me as a consumer? Because that's generally what GN's videos deal with, things that are relevant to PC hardware consumers.

A bit disappointing, but still interesting to watch. Content overall was good, but during quite a bit of the movie, Steve seems to fail to understand the mechanics of export restrictions. Just cause the US says you can't export to China doesn't mean you're not allowed to buy it in China or that you can't import it into China from other places. How wasn't that clear from the beginning?

>>106301431
hes still a dumb american
he thinks that burger laws apply globally kek

>>106301256
>the tldr is that nvida knows but doesnt care that their gpus are being exported illegally
More than that. They knew and actively lie about it.

>>106301412
The ultimate point is that this is a real thing that is happening and it is far more prevalent than Nvidia admits. And also that the export controls aren't really working.

>>106296557
Why did scrapyard wars 10 fail this badly?

>>106301431
>Just cause the US says you can't export to China doesn't mean you're not allowed to buy it in China or that you can't import it into China from other places.
That's what is said by him and others in the video multiple times.

>>106299607
Unexpected Lovecraft.

>>106299607
>Why is any of this his concern?
It isn't, really. He's just documenting it.

omg it migu :D

>>106295889
yes, but with a hard drive shredder
>>106296118
Thanks for not being a retard like OP

i wanted to watch this video, but i'm not giving any more than 2 hours of my life to a video on gpu smuggling. sorry.

>>106302726
the only vid he made that I actually watched.

>>106301872
Its not hard to arrive at the point, see >>106301412. What is less clear is how this directly affects GN viewers and consumers of GPU hardware in general. This just shows supply side fuckery that Nvidia doesn't officially recognize (obviously for legal reasons), so the hope is this will cause investors and consumers to question Nvidia's supply statements?

>>106295814 (OP)
The whole point was stoping China from being able to make large AI clusters. The video confirms it's difficult/impossible to make large clusters. Letting randos atill get gaming GPUs is a benefit, it takes away demand from a possible Chibese competetitor

>>106295814 (OP)
Why is he promoting Trumpianism, xenophobia against China? Why is he helping Trump's cause? Stupid pig dog.

>>106295864
many vram to put in your personal computer today now thank you, graphic card ultra fast performing
>>106296006
yes
>>106303404
can't tell if bot or faggot

>>106301256
>what? smuggling drugs and weapons are nothing like smuggling gpus
it's similar to guns, and yes you can fly with your gun, especially state to state, but there are lots of rules. like ths case is supposed to be locked and in a certain way, but airlines keep messing it up, and really need Trump to read them the riot act for fucking up flying.

The Taurus PT1911 is made in Brazil and sold in the usa.

> Export regulations: Before traveling outside the U.S. with firearms and ammunition, you must comply with export regulations administered by either the Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC) or the Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS), depending on the type of firearm

BIS is the same one controlling exports of gpus.

so you might think, this gun was made in the Brazil. legal in the USA. why can't i take it to Brazil?

you asked God, you asked the peoples of two nations, but you forgot to ask the illuminati.

actually insane /g/ did all that moore threads gpu dicksucking and then you show china and they are just all mainlining nvidia LMAOOOOOOO

>>106296531
>is it true tensor cores don't help gaming?
Why would they help in gaming?
The only thing they do is run the AI garbage DLSS is, that's about it.

>>106295814 (OP)
>long as fuck
>not particularly interesting
>interviewing random dudes who held an nvidia gpu once
My expectations were middling and even so the video is pretty disappointing

>>106304379
>its like guns
Not quite, yes there are rules for domestic travel, but international travel is much, much more highly regulated. Not only do you require paperwork and approval from the destination country, which generally have strict regulations on the types of guns allowed into the country, there are also restrictions on leaving the US with certain firearms, as well as paperwork and approval from the state department. None of this applies to GPU's, and controls are rather lax on identification and enforcement at the border or customs.

If you wanted to buy and sell guns internationally, you need to be a licensed FFL of the import/export type. There are a host of import/export restrictions from both origination and destination countries.
>>106303385
This is my takeaway from the export restrictions and the investigation done in the video. While there definitely is smuggling ongoing, they have been fairly successful so far in preventing large quantities to rival the AI datacenters here. Unless of course the chinese firms are exercising greater OPSEC than what we've seen in the video.

>>106295814 (OP)
Tech homo

>>106295814 (OP)
>Radeonexus: we're not an AMD shill channel
>also Radeonexus:

>>106306078
That t shirt is 100% true, Nvidia us literally printing money with their GPUs right now.

>>106295814 (OP)
Linus and his multi-million dollar lab would never do anything like this.

Linus spent millions on a tech lab with a bunch of state of the art equipment just to have an excuse to avoid giving his employees a raise.

I thought the movie would be more interesting 2bh. It's just him meeting up with some chinks and them being like "yeah some GPUs get in here and they're sold for 2x the price, and we also make VRAM mods for the poverty cards"

>>106306373
badminton

BADMINTON

>>106295875
It's too late for that now.
It's over.
A few people here know what I mean.

>>106306373
Probably because there are 100s of people who would take the place of anyone who leaves, without much of a quality drop off?
Maybe I'm wrong though because it's Canada.

>>106306373
but he gives them $5000 for tech upgrades if he likes them.

>>106295814 (OP)
>>106295889
from the thumbnail i thought it was a monster energy shirt

>>106302963
>What is less clear is how this directly affects GN viewers and consumers of GPU hardware in general.
It doesn't. It's just interesting.

>i can't read chinese
what the fuck this nigga been studying for the past 5 years? he's paying a language tutor for THAT?

>>106307757
Reading and talking are two different skills.

>>106299006
yea i can help but wonder if part of the reason amd sucks for ai gpu is because lisa doesnt want to bother her blood relative. shits sketch .
though i will admit because they dont have as much money they are also realistically constrained there. but it would be so easy for their to be a backdoor agreement

>>106307757
Even if he learnt traditional characters the simplified characters are different.

>>106307757
the irony of including footage from the linguist dude saying that calling it the "chinese language" is wrong and Steve ignoring it anyway for the latter half of the video was kinda funny

[spoiler]YAMERO
[/spoiler]

>>106295814 (OP)
I really want to get a 48gb 4090, but the blower fan makes it too loud

>>106295814 (OP)
>Jensen Huang
lit. whomst

He should have bought and benchmarked a gpu with added memory. It's a horrible missed opportunity

>>106310058
People did on /r/localllama

>>106310066
who cares about AI benchmarks? I mean gaming benchmarks on the ones nvidia released with gimped memory

>>106310072
Basically no difference because 24GB is more than enough for games.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

John is repaiting 5090s already


ahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhhahahhahahah

>>106310072
graphics benchmarks allow quick visual detection of errors ie gltching

>>106310058
>>106311576
>ninner on the gee
When is China making GBC branded PC parts?
Only China's crazy enough to do it

>>106296006
can confirm

>>106295814 (OP)
Zero people with a working brain are surprised that someone can buy GPUs and ship them wherever.
The only thing this video shows is how up China's ass Steve wants to be.

>>106311940
don't pretend like custom GPU's aren't kino

>>106311940
Are you not the least bit surprised at the scale of what is going on?
Down to QC fail boards finding their way into the Chinese market as well?

>>106301412
i think the point is nvidia could move all of their product without consumers, gamers.

>>106312022
The doubled vram is cool and I've been aware of that possibility since Pascal. So yes.
>>106312037
>surprised
No, no I am not.
The funny thing is how nobody talks about how these 3-middlemen-chain product movements are prohibitively costly for the Chinese, who already the majority of which can't realistically afford a 3060 let alone a 5090.
So we're talking about the upper 1% of the 1% in chinese coastal major cities to start with, and the question of CCP involvement is something that should be on everyone's mind.

My point is that Steve kowtows to China (government) and has an agenda, and is not a good person all things considered.
I think all of these concepts I wrote are too complicated for you to parse. Sorry. I have a very bad habit of oversimplifying three ideas into one short (to me) sentence for brevity.

Steve is nobodys friend. He is a chinese (politburo, government, supremacist) sympathizer

>>106312095
>The funny thing is how nobody talks about how these 3-middlemen-chain product movements are prohibitively costly for the Chinese, who already the majority of which can't realistically afford a 3060 let alone a 5090.
Did you not see the prices in the video?

>>106312110
6800rmb for a 4080 is nearly $1100usd.
The actual real average chinese wage monthly is something like 2000rmb

>>106312289
>The actual real average chinese wage monthly is something like 2000rmb
So they save up if they want one.

>>106295814 (OP)
it's ok anon. Njudea will just give Blumpf more money to make the problem go away.

>>106295814 (OP)
>zero context
Thanks for wasting all of our time.

>>106312330
That....that wasnt the point at all. Try to apply your mind to the thread topic's video.
Do you need ADD medication just to have a normal three reply conversation?

>>106312289
>average
Kinda useless metric when you have a bimodal distribution

>>106315084
Fucking moron

>>106316163
>t ignorant

I was watching this half interested, then I realized it was 3 hours long and closed the tab.

>>106312289
Biggest surprise was high end GPUs maintaining similar global pricing.
You can buy handfuls of forbidden GPUs in China despite the ban woweee, that should be obvious.
Building next-gen AI? It's not just stacking a bunch of GPUs in regular servers, NV is deeply involved in the biggest clusters.

48G mods show the Chinese ability to get shit done tho. What does the world look like if they fully turn off the tap?

>>106315006
You were claiming only a minuscule minority could afford the GPUs.
Now apparently that's not the point. I suppose your point was to cast shade on Steve.
How are those Nvidia dollars?

who

>>106316334
>believing chinese government statistics
Kek.
>>106317968
>price is the same
That's always been the case with tech everywhere. The price of tech generally is what the prod cost + margin needs to be.
It isnt like medicine where a Somalian pays price-floor cost for insulin while an uninsired american is charged $80 for the same generic from the same factory.
>>106318549
I'm not claiming, I'm telling you the truth that most chinese people make the equivalent of $400 USD a month and what an American would consider a mostly affordable bare bones system is a high cost in China.
Get the CCP cock out of your ass - just like a kid making $12/hr working 25 hours a week in the US is not having a good time financially, most Chinese are not either.

>>106320709
>Chyana is not real

Steve, stop shilling yourself on /g/

>>106320782
Holy fuck you're a certified retard.
Must be one of those "107" IQ hong kongers

>>106320819
Don't worry, CHYNA isn't real.

>>106320709
>Get the CCP cock out of your ass - just like a kid making $12/hr working 25 hours a week in the US is not having a good time financially, most Chinese are not either.
Ok. But that doesn't mean there isn't a strong market for these GPUs.
People have ways of reducing their costs of living to maximize their comfort spending. And then you have the average cost of living being lower in China as well.
You're acting like people don't find ways to buy the things they want.

>>106320821
Behold: the age old
>when I'm losing to facts I shit up the topic
Tactic.

>>106320861
>RT
>homosexual phrases
lmao pidor, are you seething Xi isn't sending weapons for your retarded CVO?
kys

>>106320851
At the end of the day 8000RMB is 8000RMB and if your savings are 500rmb a month you arent affording a high end system.
A, relative, handful of chinese tech-city coasters in no way represents the chinese people's situation in the same way a 6 figure USD salary girlboss doesn't represent the real average american.

The only reason you guys are trying to combat my posts is because you're wumao.

>>106320886
>if your savings are 500rmb a month you arent affording a high end system.
Why not? You just save up a few months.
>wumao
No idea what this means.

>>106320954
50 cent deposited in your account today.

>>106320978
For what?

>>106306078
>Steve RadeonShill
I think the Steve you're chasing is the one from New Zealand anon.

>>106295814 (OP)
I wish I can get that VRAM upgrade service, I would send in my 3070 8GB card.

>>106312095
>I've been aware of that possibility since Pascal.
my nigger that's been possible with like every GPU ever since they always had gimped versions more often than not with a gimped memory bus to go along with it
hell in the properly early days GPUs had memory sockets and supported upgrades

>>106312095
>He is a chinese (politburo, government, supremacist) sympathizer
good. democracy is a failed experiment.

>>106295814 (OP)
Fantastic work. Changs itt btfo

>>106303385
He touched on it; I thought he said they had seen one big cluster built on smuggled hardware, but were not allowed to show it. He also mentioned that it was easier to export the data on hdds and to do the processing on remote datacenters.

>>106325113
The funny part is that both the PRC and the US will be force to use third countries to have the datacenters for different reasons.

What I was most surprised about was that it was pytorch that was the tool used; nobody talked about using CUDA directly. For that reason, I was surprised AMD was not treated seriously by the Chinese; I thought rocm was well supported with pytorch. I have no experience with CUDA or AMD, but was easily able to bring up pytorch on A770s and everything I tried worked (until I ran out of vram) - I would have expected it to be even easier on AMD.

For those that know, what is the AMD/pytorch experience like?

So what's the point buying or "upgrade" to Super now?

>>106321534
There's been a teardown that shows, at least for the sample card, that the components on the substitute PCB are shit tier to save a few pennies, which leads to early/permanent damage to the GPU. So I wouldnt even consider those as a valid option until someone whos more seriinvolved. quality control and performance gets involved.

>>106325281
>source: your ass
The only "bad" thing in that video is the BLOWER fan

>>106325173
>For those that know, what is the AMD/pytorch experience like?

Literally dogshit. As everything that has anything to do with AMD software (rocm).

The only reason you can run local ai (eg llama.cpp) on AMD crap because some martyrs ported it to Vulkan. And the Vulkan driver is usable on AMD thanks to Valve and other companies/developers invested in Linux gaming.

>>106295814 (OP)
based and great video

This should have been broken up into multiple videos and shot as a documentary series with each vid moving further up the chain until we meet the head triad in charge Mr. N. GPU. The movie is long and boring. There should be more car chases and sexy asian girls.

>>106326734
Besides the HK University and the Repair shop modding GPUs it isn't easy to cut into episodes, it's an unabridged search too chaotic to be meaningful as episodes

>>106298215
could have been an hour longer*

>>106320709
>what an American would consider a mostly affordable bare bones system
nobody even in america thinks a computer with a 4090 is an affordable bare bones system what is your point?

>>106320709
you're retarded, with +1.4 billion of people they have enough upper middle class fags to have a super healthy hardware market

small corrections
the gold chip intel ceo gave Trump goes to the library, it's basically a museum piece.

>Forbes
>Earlier this month, Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang attended a $1 million-per-head fundraising dinner for the super PAC MAGA Inc. at Mar-a-Lago
a super pac is expenditure only. this type of pac was created by citizens united (scotus case) and is lawful as buying a banned gpu, as a chinese citizen

solution
to end the mess with video gaming, Trump can simply liberate all Cuda patents and software. he can set a rate of licensing, but force nvidia to license at this rate. This can be done under an emergency declaration.

>>106325324
he hates you, but he also doesn't want you to waste thousands of your money. very generous hater.

>>106321534
also consider a powerful mac. they have unified memory. they're the only working out of the box local LLM solution, unless there's a battlemage builder

>>106301882
I'm actually loving it because as I've aged from building a PC in my parents house to wanting to make my entire house / life comfortable the home theatre / server / NAS etc videos are exactly what I'm after. Honestly I barely watch it anymore outside of these kinds of videos

>>106328021
the new strix halo stuff is ootb, but there really aren't any models tuned for it yet.

>>106325173
> but was easily able to bring up pytorch on A770s
On software supported other than cuda cards. Modern tech still uses torch.cuda and torch._C._cuda and if for the former you can replace cuda with xpu, for the latter methods have different names. And that's not speaking about new attentions, fp8, etc.

>>106305924
>>interviewing random dudes who held an nvidia gpu once
literally the opposite of the truth

>>106327983
>the gold chip intel ceo gave Trump goes to the library
And the 400 million jet goes to the library, too.

>>106301888
It's said to him, but he's incapable of gasping it.

Also, the whole video is nothingburger. Small sale gpu market exists, but nothing major is shown. Educational institutions adhere to the ban and aren't buying anything illegal. Small market sale is hindered by warranty concerns and prices. It really sounds like bans are working as intended.

Also, travelling to mainland form HK only to be told that all the GPUs are coming to the mainland from HK, and not going back to HK and to research further sounds really dumb. What's even dumber is not protecting any of his sources. Sure, it is sources themselves that agreed to it, but you really should do better if you plan on getting somewhere in the future.

>>106295814 (OP)
>fat sweaty incel has something to say
Can I get QRD? I don't want to be infected by whatever mental disease he has.

>>106329546
>and aren't buying anything illegal
Because it's not illegal for them to buy any GPU.

>>106301888
You mean the exact same thing that has been parroted all this time even from non geek channels and on products not limited to NVidia gpus?
Like how Huawei was accused by a western govt of accepting Argentinian beef as payments for their 5G equipments?
I really hoped that was true. Anything that bypasses the weaponized SWIFT system is based.

>>106329546
Another thing, Chinese are saying that it's now much easier to rent off site ai clusters situated in countries like Taiwan than build them locally. That's ideal for security services that can tap that at will.

>>106329633
Did you even watch the vid? Both college professor state that all their gpu's are legal as per export rules. They're not even sharing each others processing power. Poorfag lit major has like two old gpus total for all his work. Economy guy built everything himself, and has nothing illegal in it as well.

>>106329546
>it is sources themselves that agreed to it, but you really should do better if you plan on getting somewhere in the future.
He hide the 2 sources that were actually doing something illegal. Did you even watch the video?

I don't remember from video but that 4090 didn't need any bios change to run with extra ram? Surprising, considering apple bricks phones when their RAM or storage size changes without flashing it

>>106329581
China is smuggling gpus. Judging by his content, in a very limited numbers. He's arguing that nvidia does nothing to stop it. It's like arguing that gun manufacturers should man the borders themselves.

>>106329701
Idk if the GPU IC has a firmware but they simply replaced the entire board. If the firmware is in the board then they simply bypassed that possibility.

>>106329731
>It's like arguing that gun manufacturers should man the borders themselves.
Curiously a certain president used that but applied to drugs as an argument to sanction countries. :^)

>>106329753
Your point being? Countries are responsible for goods smuggled out and into their borders. Companies aren't.

Moron is also implying that China can just take gpus from production plants in China, which is potently false. Chip production is controlled, and numbered, even defects go back to manufacturer.

>>106329692
Because there's nothing illegal about buying GPUs.

>>106329904
Then why aren't they using 4090s? Why are they so firm in the stance that all gpus are legally bought?

>>106329848
>even defects go back to manufacturer.
All the apple repair industry in the US relies on donor PCBs from defective batches. The only thing stopping that is serialization.

>>106329731
You missed the second part, which was about GPUs that weren't leaving China.
Because most of them are manufactured in China, the easiest way for them to end up on the black market is for them to just not leave to begin with.
If some boards "fail" QC, there's no requirement for the manufacturers to send the GPUs back to Nvidia, flag them for driver blacklisting, or even destroy them.
Of course, they can't openly sell them, because some of those companies do business in USA so it would be illegal for them to "export" them, but they're still finding their way into the market.

>>106329949
>Then why aren't they using 4090s?
Because he has 80GB A100s.

>>106329848
>Chip production is controlled, and numbered, even defects go back to manufacturer.
That was covered in the video and that's not what happens.
That was part of Nvidia not caring.

>>106329972
2nd part? The part where they film some grey boxes in a warehouse and talk with a clueless middleman, and his cousin? I thought it was some extra filler, glad you took something out of it.

>>106330001
He's got one and a half of them, and it was legally bought before the sanctions kicked in. A few 4090s would quadruple that output, for less money.
>>106330018
No, it was never covered. He went there with his preconceptions and a story ready, and he ran with it no matter what was said to him. Just like how he saw a full basement of banned cards in the warehouse, but somehow his cameraman was not able to film them.

>>106330201
>He's got one and a half of them
>We have like 30 A100 class GPUs
You're right, though, the two that he showed off were bought before the sanctions kicked in.
He has 3090s over 4090s because of the blower fans, which makes them more suitable for rack servers.

>>106330018
His own words regarding factory segment:

>they get gpu chips from nvidia/amd, they get ram as well
>if anything is faulty, they ask for refund
>if anything goes bad on their end, they're left with it
>this almost never happens

Then he claims that it'd be easy for many cards to disappear. Where does that claim come from? Faulty chips are replaced, defect cards are written off, but in such a low number that they don't mean a thing.

>>106301882
because its actually interesting and not just "linus clearly cheats". its also so funny to watch him cry over a lightbulb, dude has to be the shittiest boss

>>106330150
>The part where they film some grey boxes in a warehouse and talk with a clueless middleman, and his cousin?
>>106330201
>No, it was never covered.
It was covered in the Yeston portion.

>>106330353
>>if anything is faulty, they ask for refund
>they can file for refunds, if, for example, a chip is bad
There is nothing in that of "going back to the manufacturer", and he had examples in the video of QC failed cards in the wild.
Are you not able to put things together?

>>106296118
>3h 30m long
wtf

>>106330368
>actually interesting
>fails
Anon...?

I like how nearly every comment in the video is glazing steve and isn't talking about the content at all. Nobody is watching that entire thing because making it that long without trimming was utterly pointless.

>>106330715
People on YT rushes to post first (but after the google crypto/porn bots) to ger likes and be on top. It's always the same thing with videos longer than 15 min.

>>106329731
>He's arguing that nvidia does nothing to stop it.
LMAO, why even lie about that shit? When people can just click on the timestamp of the section specifically about Nvidia and he says no such thing.

>>106329848
Good thing it was not about the specific chip being a defect but the production of the board the chip is being installed on that is able to skirt the whole process.
Sounds like you aren't paying attention to anything being talked about in the video.

>>106330715
>I like how nearly every comment in the video
No one cares about the comments on YT videos, why do you?
If anything Gamer Nexus and other YT'ers likely only care about feedback from their paying members anyways.

>>106326734
>more car chases and sexy asian girls
>in movie about hardcore nerd topic
>made by nerds
>for nerds
Anon, I...

I want my 4070 super to have 24gb of RAM
please let me know if there's a chinese person here that can do the process thanks

>>106333396
you are autistic

>>106330430
Don't be stupid. Gpu manufacturers asking for a refund on a bad chip implies sending that faulty chip back to Nvidia. It's how refunds work. Nobody will refund you a shit on an empty claim. You're also ignoring the point that there are practically no claims on bad chips. A large batch going missing would be noticed, would probably cost gpu manufacturer a lot of money, and would probably cause him to lose contract with Nvidia, which is le bad. Leading to his claim of it being super easy for gpu manufacturers to just lose gpu's as defects, potently false.

You're also avoiding the point that Steve blatantly lies about seeing all those banned cards in the warehouse. Whole section is spent browsing a warehouse with grey boxes, and him claiming that there are banned cards in them, yet his filmmaker is incapable of filming a single banned card. They even go and do quick cuts in the segment, knowing that there's nothing to see.

>>106295814 (OP)
>This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Bloomberg L.P.

LMAO

>>106334661
>it's real

>>106334661
>>106334682
Lol, wtf. They're silencing him now.

>>106333396
you are retarded

>>106334682
I knew I was right to download it immediately
I didn't think Bloomberg would be the ones to do it LMAO

anyone with a xitter account could check if they said something on there?

NVIDIA TAKES DOWN THE VIDEO

https://youtu.be/1H3xQaf7BFI

IT'S GONE IT'S GONE IT'S FUCKING GONE

https://youtu.be/1H3xQaf7BFI

NOT FOUND NOT FOUND NOT FOUND

https://youtu.be/1H3xQaf7BFI

UH OH STEVE

A COPYRIGHT STRIKE ON YOUR ACCOUNT FOR THAT

THIS WILL GET UGLY

AUTISTIC SHITFIT RANT FROM STEVE COMING SOON

>>106334779
Got removed while I was in the middle of downloading it with yt-dlp

>>106334563
Perhaps I was not clear.
They have no obligation to get a refund (or replacement) on faulty chips and they could probably get more money selling a slightly under performing (maybe missing a few ROPs) card out the backdoor than they would after shipping out overseas.

What was the copyright infringement?

>>106334661
Nice. Jesus was killed by the Jews one before. He may need to take note.

>>106334755
can you upload it somewhere? if it comes back up i seriously doubt it's not gonna be censored

>>106295814 (OP)
so what did he do?

>>106334779
Steve spiced it up too hard.

>>106334779
oy vey shut it down

>>106334863
revealed some info that might cause certain stocks to drop in value.

>>106334909
Which info?

>>106334955
semiconductor info

>>106334863
Talked about what everyone already knows. He's burning down his castle for nothing.

>>106334955
Can't tell you.
Don't wanna get v& by Bloomberg.

>>106334661
>bloomberg
i'm assuming trump and news segments in the intro

>>106295814 (OP)
this was the shittiest investigative journalism "documentary" I've ever saw. literally just talking to some random people off the street with fuck all insight. it's like somebody investigating wall st financial crimes and interviewing a hotdog stand owner who under-reports sales.
I hate techtubers so fucking much

>>106334779
>>106334661
you will own nothing and you will be happy

>>106335079
>you will own nothing and you will be happy
>using windows

>>106335027
right, it was so shitty it got taken down by bloomberg

>>106335133
>not using your own homemade cpu free of NSA backdoors

>>106335133
I actually do have sex sometimes so I can't install linux

>>106334779
>Bloomberg L.P.
What the fuck?

>>106335183
Source?

>>106335194
Current theory is Bloomberg has bots that scour anyone using even a hint of their footage and copyright strikes them
The fucked up part is Bloomberg will use other people's footage in their videos, and then copyright strike other people using that same footage even it it's their original footage

yes it's retarded abusive and should be illegal

we'll see if youtube give a shit, GN has a couple million subscribers and a lot of autistic viewers so they probably will in this case

>>106329546
100 rupees have been deposited on your account. send mr huang my regards

>>106334863
>so what did he do?
went to chyna to do some investigative journalism except he has no fucking idea how to do any investigative journalism so he produced a turd while interviewing know-nothing end consumers
could've just checked chinese ebay
what really chaps my ass is that it does seem like a really cool topic to explore, but he just.. didn't do that

>>106335246
pretty much.
that professor from hong kong knows absolutely nothing and it's such a waste of time

>>106335240
I've heard about this. Legacy journos are so fucking scummy online

>>106297013
Maybe use a real os next time

>>106334779
Rumble still up.

>>106335203
Ask your mother

heh

>>106334661
the absolute state of jensen

>>106335791
She told me you were a punk ass bitch with a limp dick.

>>106334661
>>106334682
chat is this real?

>>106295814 (OP)
I heard that Steve Gamers Nexus is suicidal! Concerning!

>>106329546
>nothingburger
>video gets nuked by Bloomberg lizard people
Kekw

>>106295814 (OP)
It would be wise not to mock the Son of God like that.

>>106335240
The funny part is that Bloomberg literally interviewed Steve for his tariff video lol

>>106296118
nice link

>>106339907
whats his ethnicity? looks like a typical midwest german/dutch mutt to me.

>>106299695
>take an eceleb's nonsense seriously!!!!!
>but only when he's not canadian

>>106339985
>Burke
He is Anglo.

>>106296118
Anyone got a mirror?

>>106295814 (OP)
I saw porno with him . Lucky dude

>>106327421
> they have enough upper middle class fags to have a super healthy hardware market

Funny because they don't. Most Chinese are incredibly impoverished. You should try going there sometime. No I don't mean going to a Starbuck's in the center of a first tier city.

>>106296118
LMAO Bloomberg claimed it.

>>106342175
That still leaves hundreds of millions.

>>106296118
https://rumble.com/v6xro9o--the-nvidia-ai-gpu-black-market-smuggling-corruption-and-global-scandal-.html

>>106341131
see >>106342240

>>106342240
Why did they upload it in 720?

>>106342265
They wanted AMD users to be able to watch.

>>106342240
why did the jews took it down bros

>>106336613
Whys this 3 gigs? When I downloaded it, it was like 20+gb

>>106343344
If news got out that US AI companies were buying hardware from China their stock values would fall when the Government starts investigating, arresting, and fining said companies.
And a lot of politicians and their "friends" have their money in AI company stocks

>>106344573
>doesn't understand compression and encoding
How can you be on the technology board of an anime site and NOT know this?

>>106344683
Glad I grabbed the original video instead of a modied upload from some chucklehead who thinks it needs compression and encoding lmao. Enjoy your butchered vid.

>>106344683
this board has plenty of misinformation and dumbasses way out of their depth

>>106344724
considering the site it has good reason as to why it needs to compress it

>>106296118
BLOOMBERG LP GIVING YOU THE L

>>106296118
the oven-dodging kikes already censored it

praise steve

>>106344926
suppose the gas chamber narrative was true, it would imply that the survivors were naturally selected for their dodge ability

>>106295814 (OP)
Honestly made me curious about upgrading stock GPUs with better components. Like the 4090 where they doubled to vram to 48GB.
There is an issue with reliability and the card potentially shitting itself but if you improve the process you could sell tons of aftermarket 4090s with 48GB vram. I would buy one.

>>106309423
It's a cheap chinese fan. You could 3d print an attachment for noctuas and it is dead silent

The video itself was meaty and nice enough a watch, both to inform and even if you're a cynic, make them operational money with the patreon support or whatever.

NOW it has the effect of baiting the upset parties into overreacting, and surely to evolve into some other controversy. I wonder if THIS was planned.

>>106348969
>I wonder if THIS was planned
Steve wants speculations. Otherwise he would say that it got taken down because of the Bloomberg segment (he didn't).
90% of the audience believes that this was a grand conspiracy, a higher power taking it down because GamersNexus is too dangerous. While in reality it is a very simple obvious case of copyright infringement that GamersNexus could fix in a minute, if they wanted to. Just remove those 3min and upload again.

>>106296118
Upload on Odysee, youtube is full of censored kiked shit.

>>106349060
It is very obvious what Steve implies here.
Why can't they just admit that they made a little oopsy and didn't realize that this 3min Trump segment is under Bloomberg copyright?
I guess it wouldn't generate clicks...

>>106349099
Generate clicks on what, no clicks to be had if it's been taken down. You mean to drum up victim mentality so people pay them on muh patreon?

>>106349099
>>106349060
If the final result is me not having the see the withered orange then even better. You can cite that retard without a video cut.

>>106349139
It is a little strange since in usual GN report videos, it's Steve himself reading a quote like "quote, blah blah blah" in a very fast voice whereas this just let the video be played.

>>106349148
Steve took a liking to using cuts, mostly sub-2 sec cuts...
>Pat is here
>thanks steve
etc

>>106349060
>>106349099
it's fair use negros

>>106349219
It isn't transformative, it isn't parody, it isn't itself being discussed, it is presented as is, for your consumption.
This is not Fair Use.

>>106349136
Be honest, how many people watch over three hours of a travel report?
Those speculations are generating much more income for him for sure. Not just in views of other content, but in merch sales and donations as well.

>>106301882
>$1400 is budget in 2025

Grim. At that point just spend $2200 for a 7800X3D 7900XTX 1440p OLED PC

>>106349248
shut it bloomberg kike

>>106349381
What are you gonna do about it?
Send money to GamersNexus, so that they can fill a lawsuit, and then after a month dismiss it and run and keep the money again?

>>106349403
why would I send them money?

>>106348837
Perhaps a new PCB with a superior connector? Sounds like a win to me.

Anyone have a HD download available? The rumble one is only 720p.

>>106349880
4K and 1080
https://archive.org/details/the-nvidia-ai-gpu-black-market-smuggling-corruption-global-scandal
https://archive.org/details/the-nvidia-ai-gpu-black-market-investigating-smuggling-corruption-governments

>>106350002
Thank you! May there be a qt asian wife in your future.

>>106349248
It is transformative. It's a literal 3 minute segment from a 3+ hour documentary. It's used to give context in the grander scheme of the documentary.
This is not a movie reuploaded to youtube. This is clearly original work being taken down. Probably autoflagged because of the clip. But I think GN would win in court easily and bloomberg would have to reimburse them.

>>106298971
>100% of foxcon workers are on meth
Cheaper than suicide nets with ongoing maintenance.

>>106349060
>>106349248
That image is retarded and doesn't understand what "transformative" means and neither do you.
That the 3 minute clip exists in a context of 3 hours of original reporting and commentary is squarely transformative.
>The central purpose of this investigation is to see, in Justice Story’s words, whether the new work merely ‘supersede[s] the objects’ of the original creation, or instead adds something new, with a further purpose or different character, altering the first with new expression, meaning, or message; it asks, in other words, whether and to what extent the new work is ‘transformative.’
The legal test is for novelty. Is Steve's video the 3 minute clip or is it so full of novel content that it's something else entirely. Is it just reproducing or re-framing the 3 minute clip? Is it its own animal. You'd be hard pressed to argue legally what you need to argue, which is that the 3 minute clip is in essence what Steve's video is.
In fact it would be a on its face ludicrous.

>>106350504
the real issue is that it's fucking bloomberg who served the DMCA
i can't even begin to comprehend how much of a headache it'll be to work with youtube and a major news outlet to get the video reinstated

>>106350504
>>106350255
Fair Use isn't only about a percentage of a whole.
If Steve would have reacted to the Bloomberg Trump clip, that would have been fair use, even if it would have been 30 min instead of 3.
That is why reaction videos are so popular in the first place. Having a söy face in the corner or a pause every few seconds to make a jab about it, makes it Fair Use.

In any way, it shouldn't be an issue to just remove those 3 min, they do not add much in the first place. Fighting this DMCA is a fool's errand. "Oh damn, sorry, i shouldn't have used that clip, i removed that part, i hope we are good now" would be the correct reaction.

>>106351292
you could also just freeze frame and dictate what was said during the presser
that's how i avoid copyright strikes on my youtube vids