Thread 106303183

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards. Issues still reported & latest BIOS doesn't protect new CPUs.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106297042

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
ASUS WOLED with TrueBlack Glossy film launched (XG32UCWMG, XG32UCWG). Limited availability.

>Omissions
RTX 5070 Ti: buy if you need CUDA, if you value DLSS/Reflex that highly, and if the 5060 Ti 16GB or 5070 isn't performant enough.
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

amd can do what nvidia cant

>>106303183 (OP)
Thanks for baking the non-shill bread

>>106303201
You only have a single set of eyes for those six screens.

>>106303221
cope

ranjeet going off about what amd can do, not what he currently has. Weird.

>>106303201
>slots in a $5 quadro card
What now gayboy?

https://videocardz.com/newz/moore-threads-preparing-s3000e-graphics-card-confirms-gpu-z-update
>The name Moore Threads S3000E suggests that it is a variant of the existing S3000 SKU, though specifications are not yet known. The S3000 features 4096 MUSA cores and boosts up to 1.9 GHz, with 32 GB of GDDR6 memory across a 256-bit interface. It is possible that the E variant is a low-power model.

MOORE THREADS WON

THANK YOU MOORE THREADS

>High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT

5070Ti’s are literally at MSRP now and objectively better. While 9070XTs are only 50 bux less

>>106303276
random black screens and BSODs are not objectively better

>>106303245
You're the one coping, are you a freak? Do you have abnormal eye sets, and your brain's wired differently?

>>106303276
Because it's literally impossible for there to be an op that isn't biased towards team red.
Anyone who would actually buy off of the suggestions is retarded and deserves to be burnt anyways so whatever.

>>106303276
9070XT is objectively faster with latest drivers (and cheaper). cope harder

>>106303285
what is the difference between a single huge monitor or it split in 6 smaller monitors? the bezels. somehow having the bezels makes you unable to enjoy the total display surface. weird shit

>>106303317
Like vultures scrambling for scraps. Just buy a 5090 and be done.

saaaaar please buy the amd gpu with the android phone. DO NOT REDEEM THE IPHONE BLOODYBITCH

>>106303317
>9070XT is objectively faster
False
>cheaper
oh wow $50, I'm sure that matters to someone spending nearly a grand on a toy.
Faggot

>>106303356
Nice pulled out of the ass magic numbers

>>106303356
show latest drivers faggot

>>106303281
funny, the 5070ti taught me its now BLACK SCREEN OF DEATH instead of BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH

>>106303373
>raytracing still doesn't count
Get with the times queer, it's not 2018 anymore.
>>106303389
Probably the same thing, no one bothers testing it

>>106303392
that's awesome, thank you jensen!

>>106303356
wow, 5090 looks like the only reasonable choice here

>>106303396
>Probably the same thing, no one bothers testing it
you're just fucking sad at this point

>>106303409
the way you're meant to be played

>>106303389
drivers aren’t making up a 2x performance deficit

>>106303392
That issue has been resolved months ago.

>>106303534
Get a dractal design define rX

>>106303534
Which case did you get?

>>106303534
I have montech 903 max and it dont have logos

People don't buy OLED monitors because IPS on average lasted a very long time.

I've had LG22EA53 for about ~ten years and now have LG UG 27GP850

Average OLED is good for 3 years max and cost $2000

I bought one of the best SSDs for gaming according to Google but games feel like they load slower than they should because my console loads faster e.g. BF6 beta. I don't know if I have it configured wrong in Windows or something like that.

>>106303814
SSD is the sn850x same as the one in OP

>>106303814
bf6 load times are irrelevant. its up to the server to let you in. even when it finally lets you in, you have to wait for other players to load before you can play.

try a directstorage game. gta 5 is one, so is ff16 demo.

>>106303814
What's your CPU? It's a CPU-demanding game. Console OS better prioritizes gaming performance.
Maybe change the power settings to high performance.

>>106303855
It happens in other games though like oblivion remake. And MP games in general still seem to load faster on the console in general.

>>106303866
7600

>>106303894
psn servers less busy than pc servers so they're snappier.

oblivion remake is a stupid ue5 game that loads slow on all machines even console. the original is literally no loading screen on ssd with a mod to remove the artificial pause.

>>106303910
I have an xbox. I use gamepass cross progression to continue games on PC.

>>106303917
xbox live server are even less busy. same shit.

>>106303183 (OP)
I didnt think much and went 2x32 RAM on my new AM5 rig and startup times are awful now. Assuming its largely due to the dual rank format. Might step down to 2x24 in hopes it can improve times. Activating memory context restore helped a bit but still getting like 20 second boots. Surely I can expect better?

>>106303894
>oblivion remake
This game runs poorly on any PC. I've also experienced inconsistently long loading times playing this game.
Like the other anon said, you're likely waiting on people with worse PCs/network to be ready for the match

I only need a case and my build is complete

The only thing that's putting me off upgrading is I want an AM5 motherboard that isn't shit and isn't some £220, though that is seemingly impossible
I wish AMD didn't complicate their motherboard chipset names.

>>106303942
OK fair enough in the case of oblivion. I still feel like it loads slower overall. Like I haven't enabled a setting to take full advantage of it or maybe its overheating but I did put it in the top slot and use the in built heatsink on the motherboard. It's in a gen 5 slot.

>>106303959
get the tryx luca m70? or a meshify 3 XL, or an antec flux pro, or a lian li O11.

>>106303959
If I wasn't heavily invested into 140mm fans, I would grab a fractal epoch or the mesh version of the north. I would also look at sff options if you don't need hdds.

>>106304012
Maybe update the SSD firmware using the official tool.
If you think there's a real performance bottleneck, you need to back up critical files & format the drive.

>>106303533
It would be if people would update, but you're on neo4chan, the place where everyone is too schizophrenic and retarded to comprehend why updating drivers and software is a good thing, even in the same year the entire site gets hacked and datamined as a direct result of failure to update its software and patch exploits.

>>106303962
usecase for AM5?

>>106304075
I only use it for games. Should I have formatted it when I put it in?

>>106304091
Map games, but also a lot of VR, I like having ports and fast storage.

>>106304110
I'm pretty sure Windows formatted the drive before you were able to use it.

>>106304091
the privilege of using a 9950x3d

>>106303183 (OP)
I'm planning on buying a Lenovo m720s with i5 9400 and adding a gtx 1660 to it.
How can I know if the gpu is compatible with the motherboard. I think the processor is good enough this time. Also should I buy a new power supply?

(I'm the same guy from yesterday if you've seen a similar post)

>>106304091
having not enough lanes and worse features/build quality than on the same MB model for Intel for the same price

is 5070 ti super worth waiting?

>>106304437
Do you need the vram?
You better be ready to spam amazon/newegg/whatever the day of release if you want one.

>>106304038
>>106304068
I've looked at the antec flux pro and the fractal epoch. My only concern is my Arctic liquid freezer iii pro having good mounting and my bequiet pure power 13 having enough space

>>106303939
20 seconds is about standard for ddr5 single and dual rank

I can't decide on a case
I can't even decide on a form factor

How do I get over the distrust of buying expensive GPUs from GPU vendors when it's a consistent theme from gamers nexus and other places that they work really hard to screw you over in any way they can in RMAs?

>>106304566
get fractal terra
girls love fractal terra

>>106304494
I'm not going to look up dimensions for you, those can be found on the manufacturer website or even pcpartpicker.

>>106304494
Flux Pro can fit th 420 Arctic LF without any issues

>>106304437
the super is same cuda count, same core clocks, just vram upgrade. if you cant read specs go buy amd

>>106304582
I watched a vid on it and it had a horrible noise profile because of those slits in the side

Got a niggle in the back of my head, want to get an RX 9070 XT as it's like £80/90 cheaper than an RTX 5070Ti but the little goy in my head tells me to stay green

>>106304631
anyone buying nvidia should just wait for supers

>>106304631
Both do anything on 1440p and a lot on 4k. Frame gen and raytracing on Nvidia is better and more supported.

people are still acting like gpus are being scalped or not in stock it's crazy

>>106304631
>£80/90 cheaper
Not worth losing DLSS for

Will 16 gigs of vram be enough for 1440p gaming on any title for the next few years?

>>106304680
yes the gpu itself is what's going to be trash for it not the vram limitations
but people are deluding themselves and think buying a 5060ti 16gb will be better than a 5070

>>106304703
I've just got brainworms about my 5070 ti being trash when I got it for msrp. I keep seeing how 16 gigs isn't enough and I need 24 or more

>>106304523
God damn. Well that's annoying. I need to be fired up and on browser in 10 seconds or else!! But okay, thanks anon

>bought cpu with 2 day shipping on Friday
>haven't even gotten a tracking number yet
Reeeeee it's the last component I'm waiting on

>>106304742
My cooler says it should arrive anytime from today to the end of the month. It hasn't even shipped yet

>>106304723
Take ivermectin and stop listening to the brainworms. There's nothing new worth playing anyway if it makes you feel better

>>106304742
yeah never buy anything on a friday or want it delivered on a friday

>>106304742
This is why I did mostly Amazon for my new build, it's usually like a $5 premium for each component, but someone shows up the next morning at 5AM and drops my new component off :). And returns are quicker and easier if needed

>>106304763
Realistically I'm only gonna be playing old vidya with my friends, indie games, and the occasional big AAA game. I wish games were more optimized

>>106304795
I'd like to use stores other than amazon but every other store is 100% guaranteed going to use some delivery company that seems to only exist to fuck people over.

>>106304759
A month for a cooler? wtf you order an icegiant?

>>106304673
the good gpus are still expensive asf. nobody wants a overpriced $750 asus prime or pny coil whine 5070ti that has driver issues on windows and doesn't work at all on linux.

>>106304850
No, it's like a $100 aio from Amazon. I just saw good reviews on it

>>106303939
AM5 boots are awful, they just accept it
you should update your bios to latest to see if it helps

>>106304804
There's always going to be new tech coming out, you have to draw the line in the sand somewhere. I got the 5070 for MSRP and it does everything i need it to just fine at 1440p. Realistically though, will you even be able to get the refreshed cards at MSRP at release? I refuse to pay scalper prices

>>106304680
Even for 4k it's going to be fine, 16gb on a mid range card is very firmly in the "gpu will be too slow before memory is an issue" category.
Even the 12gb on the 5070 isn't too sketchy unless you plan on trying to make it last nearly decade or want an internal resolution higher than 1440p with high settings in new AAA games (which nothing other than the 5090 can do anyways)
24gb/18gb super cards I'm assuming they're targeting ai nigs + attempting to challenge any perception that Nvidia skimps on vram (which they do but the practical effects of that are exaggerated)
>>106304723
You should sell whatever you have and buy a 7900xtx. Those are definitely super future proofed :)

>>106303939
>>106304879
My boot time is 13 seconds on my Asus b650e with 32gb of ram. If you use sleep mode it's pretty much instant. Sleep shouldn't have have issues in 2025 unless you're running unstable OC/UV.

>>106304863
Are pny cards bad? Why would the drivers discriminate based on what board partner assembled it?

>>106303334
I'm not paying for Israeli spyware (your itoddler phone commment)

>>106304882
>>There's always going to be new tech coming out, you have to draw the line in the sand somewhere.
But the next leaps are gonna be huge ones. New nodes for nvidia and amd and new socket for intel promising 4 generations of support. And the 9800X3D jump to 7800X3D jump had an architecture redesign and a massive jump in performance. And it's not that far out.

>>106304931
Those are the current cheapest 5070ti's and they're cheap for a reason. The build quality.

>>106304820
I understand not liking amazon. But the flipside is that monopolies theoretically have greater pricing and logistical efficiency. It's just less headache and for some reason all electronics vendors are shitty fly by night companies with inferior shipping. That said, I did get an SSD delivered today from Newegg within 3 business days so I guess its luck too.

>>106304879
Wow what a pain in the ass. Yeah I'm on the latest BIOS version too. My AM4 build was less of a headache in every possible way

>>106304914
But I power down every time. Does that make me a boomer kek

>>106304953
Is it a $100 hindrance when you're putting it in your pc never to be touched again? Are we talking dragging a chain across gravel or just a tiny whine only noticeable at heavy use?

>>106303276
go buy whatever you want shilltard noone cares im done with fucking nvidia im gonna throw my 2060/intel shit to a trashcan and build a whole new system with a 9070xt

truly, very high DPI is where it's at
I should've known that 1440p 27" was far too low pixel density

>>106304980
>tiny whine only noticeable at heavy use?
This one.
For the 5070 and 5070ti at least the pny card(s) are actually one of the better ones. They're not shit or anything it's more so they're just basic.

>>106305075
>They're not shit or anything it's more so they're just basic.
Honestly don't know why people are so willing to spend so much extra on cards desu
10 years ago, you bought a better card only because it was $20, or sometimes literally nothing extra with how pricing was.

Now peeps are tossing $200+ for a Tuf or ventus.
That's a whole another teir of CPU, SSD or anything that's alot more tangible

>>106305155
They're retarded and still think the cheap cards are weigthless or blower fans.
Or they read things like >>106304863
and assumed they weren't just making shit up

Is IPS glow still all over the place? Is my only option to cope if I don't want to spend $500 on a secondary monitor?

>>106305265
>Is my
Is IPS my only option, I mean
OLED is pretty and all but the burnin concerns me and I'm really just looking for something straightforward, probably at 1080p

>>106305265
IPS is still panel lottery. Might be slightly better on miniLED than classic IPS but the only miniLED I ever tried was VA.

>>106305155
I'm don't buy premium cards but the reason is that I have no expectations in the first place and will be deshrouding them because nothing is good enough out of the box ever

>grabbed a 5070ti at launch because thats all I could find
The plan was to wait for the 6090 launch but it would probably be the same thing. Do I just get a 5090 now that they're in stock?

>>106305265
theres VA options if you want 70% less light bleeding through

>>106305036
naysayers simply haven't looked at them side by side

>>106305300
Same but waterblock
A mass manufacturered heatsink has little to no right to be as expensive as a boutique piece of hardware.

>>106305285
I would recommend looking into minileds, I like the cheap aoc monitors

>>106303183 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgWdfA3R6OM
why arent you buying a used office pc and putting a better gpu in? its always been the way

>>106304932
Except Google/Android runs one of the most invasive businesses in human history.
Practically everything except for your personally identifiable information is up for sale and analysis.

>>106305302
>>106305297
>>106305345
How are the angles and colors on VA? I've never heard of miniled at all.
Also goddamn, I'm looking at the RTings charts and it feels like they hardly make 1080 monitors anymore, especially not 1080/144. Might need to just bite the bullet and get a 1440/144 like the primary one.

>>106305301
Do you have a use case for the 5090 that the 5070 Ti isn't meeting?

>>106305396
buy an ad pradesh

>>106305471
Not that guy but I have both with the VA as primary and IPS as secondary. VA miniled viewing angles are pretty bad but the colours and contrast are like 50x better. If you want that high colour volume that miniled/oled are known for then VA is the only option aside from oled of course.

>>106305426
>What is graphiteOS

>>106305471
https://www.displayninja.com/ktc-m27t6-review/

>>106303183 (OP)
>7800x3d not on the list
guess it's obsolete

>>106304189
>How can I know if the gpu is compatible with the motherboard.
The motherboard has an x16 slot for a video card, but the PSU probably doesn't have a PCIe 8-pin power cable for it.
The PSU is a proprietary unit, I doubt there's a version with an 8-pin power cable, considering the highest capacity model for this PC tops out @ 210W.
https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkCentre/ThinkCentre_M720_SFF/ThinkCentre_M720_SFF_Spec.PDF

Find another workstation PC that offers more upgradeability.

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

>>106305564
its not like streamers were buying amd anyway

what thermal past for a 7800x3d and an nzxt kraken water cooler?

i know it comes with paste but transferring it to my new rig.

>>106304437
RTX 50 Super cards are going to be overpriced until it's closer to the RTX 60 launch date.
Be prepared to spend close to $1000 for it (obviously not worth it).

>>106305593
just use whatever

>>106304579
Hope the reliability issues appear while you can get a refund on the card.
Stress test the fuck out of the card during the first week of ownership.

>>106305396
The problem with a lot of the office PCs is their shitty PSUs. They WILL die when you try to draw too much power from the 12V rails.

>>106305471
>>106305501
Im running the same setup as anon, with miniled VA as primary and fast IPS secondary and echo all comments

>>106305564
It's shilling GeForce Now.
Good on them for improving the service quality, considering its popularity.

>>106305564
>AI video filter
I don't want AI shit.

>>106305301
I'm guessing NVIDIA will slow down the gains on the -90 cards as they move on to costlier manufacturing nodes.
AMD's very unlikely to have a direct answer to the 6090, they might be able to make something better than a 6080.

>>106305593
Doesn't really matter. Get some mainstream paste (H2, MX6, TM30, etc.) if you're going to change CPU/cooler frequently or go PCM if not.

>>106305542
Not obsolete, just not a frequently asked consideration.
That's why the 7700/X is also absent in that OP.
7800X3D is fine to buy if its price is much more favorable compared to the 9800X3D, and if you don't plan to manually OC the CPU.

>>106305717
Nvidia is moving to a cheaper node using Samsung with the next gen of consumer GPUs afaik
Thank God actually

>>106303392
As often as my AMD drivers crash - daily, multiple times often - at least tehy don't bring the entire system down like Nvidia's crashes would.

What magical times we live in.

>>106303534
It'd be great if some big Chinese firm took back 'chink' and made it the name of a major brand name or product line. I'm not sure how that would shake out, but it seems best.

Nvidia bros we fucking won

any critique for this build? i want a gaming/digital art build that will fit in an airplane carryon. will be running fedora 42. i have the cash if something is really worth spending more money on, but i think I'm hitting diminishing returns

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YgW2cx

>>106305265
>Is IPS glow still all over the place
it's worse now than it was 10 years ago since IPS is for mid tier shit unless you are buying some $5000 Eizo post production monitor.

Not a new PC but hoping someone can help.

I just booted up and got a Checking Media Presence screen. Panicked and rebooted and it worked fine. Read online this could be my SSD dying but my pc is not that old, like four months. Is this always a dying SSD or can this just happen randomly? Thanks anons.

>>106306171
To add, I just got new ram put in a week ago but had no issues since if this makes a difference

Nvidia bros it just doesn't stop...

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/rtx-remix-mod-contest-winners/

>>106306129
If you're moving a lot of files I'd rather go with a PCIe 4.0 nvme M.2 instead of 3.0. For memory people usually prefer 6000CL30.

>ROG CROSSHAIR VIII DARK HERO.
>Ryzen 9 5900x
>EVGA GeForce 2080ti

Got a Watchdog crash every time I locked windows.
No idea what the hell it was.
I updated every driver I could think of. Reinstalled windows 11 (it failed) so just decided to rebuild.
Is this thing salvageable? wouldn’t mind having another rig but man it was playing games just fine and even played them fine whenever I could log into windows. The second i lock it though? dead.

Sat there with chatgpt for 13 hours having it parse logs and couldn’t figure it out.

I’m wanting to get a completely new PC sometime next year. I’m going to wait until I have $5000 to $8000 saved up. What will I be able to get with that amount?
Pic unrelated

>>106306129
Are you in the US? Get a faster 6000MT/s CL30 memory kit and don't overpay for that DRAM-less Gen3 drive.
Double-check the CPU cooler compatibility with that case.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rDdG3C/silicon-power-xpower-zenith-gaming-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-sp064gxlwu60afde

2TB SN850X has DRAM and a higher TBW endurance rating than the SN5100 (1200 TB total write endurance vs 900 TB)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vLGhP6/benchmarks/western-digital-wd-blue-sn5000-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t4b0e
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/crKKHx/western-digital-wd_black-sn850x-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t2x0e

I highly doubt Leven is sharing reliable write endurance information for that DRAMless drive.
2000 TBW endurance for a DRAMless drive sounds like bullshit.
https://www.leven.com.tw/en/ssd/view/JPS600-2TB

>>106306307
1 rtx 6090

>>106306129
The biggest concern in SFFPC build is cooling and ventilation. Get some fans for your build, you have room to put some 120mm fans in there in the top and bottom. Or even some 140 mm fans if I look at the case spec.

>>106306171
>>106306214
Which SSD do you have? Keep the SSD firmware updated.

>>106306286
>Reinstalled windows 11 (it failed)
This can happen if you other storages interfering with the boot process. While upgrading some PCs with a fresh install of W11 I had to remove at least once a SATA as it seemingly had some boot records despite being data only.

>>106306307
Whatever you want

>>106306368
windows is unpredictable
i disconnect every single drive besides the boot drive when installing it

>>106306499
which is fine when its some easily accessible sata drives that can just have sata cable unplugged but what if you had multiple m.2s?

>>106306514
Don't most motherboards let you like disable access to both m.2 and sata drive? Or did I make this up in my head?

>>106306514
I take them off it's a pain in the ass but windows simply cannot be trusted
in the old days I wouldn't mind reinstalling windows but I swear it's gotten worse each release

>>106306368
I saw that and pulled that extra sata ssd out before installing.
there was technically one other sata ssd plugged in but it didn’t register because the drive died.

>>106306272
>>106306327
ok yeah the drive and memory are definitely worth paying the ~70 extra bucks for. i don't have a huge amount of data (90% of my drive is games) but why not get better

>>106306363
it's an itx case but it's still a 20L case so it's pretty spacious. I was gonna look at thermals and add extra fans as needed since i can pick them up locally and i haven't really decided how i want the cooling to go exactly yet. my old build was 26L i never had to even think about thermals so i'm hoping it's not too much of a pain

new link for the curious
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fmn3pK

>>106306532
great. i mean I know exactly why that is. same reason my google home randomly plays songs and cancels my timers when it didn’t 2 years ago. Such a damn shame.

>>106306526
seems its possible but not always and might only be for sata or 1 m.2 but not the other

>>106306577
You didn't remove the older drive from that list; the rest looks fine (if everything fits).

>be Intel
>make it so that your newest CPUs can only run well on Win11 or Linux
>make it so that they need a new socket
>make it so that this new socket will only last for one generation
>remove hyperthreading, raping gaming performance
What the fuck are they thinking?

>>106303809
>Average OLED is good for 3 years max and cost $2000
My C2 is over 3 years old and humming along fine, although I consume varied content and don't use it for work.

>>106306735
yeah, people always warn against using oled for work but then people in the lower IQ tiers/poorfags conflate that to suggest they should never buy oled in any case despite it being huge improvement in image quality over lcd

Hey anons, picking parts out and I think waiting has opened some doors,

I currently have
a 2tb nvme ssd,
32gb of ram,
a b650e mb that is supposedly a 850 but renamed for the poors market segment, 850w psu
27”in mini led VA monitor on the way
Windows home 11
Snagged a 9800x3d since i wont be doing much besides being a casual user
Frozen edge aio and a phantek ultra pro case.

This is going to be an upgrade from my 1070. I am not upgrading for the next couple of generations and held out this long since my pc has been relegated to a pc for my pops. I have about 800 usd left in the piggybank. 9070xt or 5070ti? Im going to hold out for 9+ years like the 1070 after this new one

>>106306903
5070 ti super

>>106306923
>day 723 of anon waiting for 5070ti super to drop below 800 usd
Eh, no games i play are that demanding anyway. I’ll just enjoy bf6 on console…

>>106306969
supposedly 5080 super is <1k $ msrp

I really had no clue how strong the 80 class branding is. So many months out and hardly any near msrp, when everything else is

>>106306903
6070ti, youre one year away from the next generation of cards. Might as well wait

>>106304742
Finally got a tracking number
>pay $30 for shipping
>signature required during the day
>have to pay another $5 to reschedule it for the evening
Fuck fedex man holy shit

>Today, NVIDIA announced a major update to its NVIDIA App, giving GeForce RTX users broader control over performance and image quality settings.

>DLSS override will now work globally across all games, allowing players to enable DLSS Multi-Frame Generation or DLSS Super Resolution across supported titles without having to configure each one individually.

>Smooth Motion, an AI-powered feature similar to AMD’s Fluid Motion Frames, essentially frame generation at the driver level is now available for RTX 40-series owners as well.

>Borderlands 4 bundled with GeForce RTX 50 graphics cards ahead of Gamescom

>NVIDIA says its Verified Priority Access program is opening signups today in France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and the United Kingdom. This program applies only to Founders Edition models.

>>106307131
THANK YOU JENSE-

>>106307131
I use Linux

>>106307131
>NVIDIA says its Verified Priority Access program
6 years late but I guess thats cool

>>106307185
small indie company pls understand

>>106307131
When was the last time you played a game bundled with a GPU. Those game devs really trying to increase their reported sales by bundling Kek

>>106307131
>NVIDIA says its Verified Priority Access program is opening signups today in France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and the United Kingdom
Nice. I guess it will never happen here in Poland. The shop responsible in Poland for selling FE (x-kom.pl) was scalping the AIB 5090s for about 19000 PLN (4500€) in February/March, also I have never seen FE 5090 and 5080 available since launch, only 5070 very briefly. And those cards were only added on the polish nvidia site some time after release, on release day their site was still shilling 40 series as hot new stuff and linking to sold out AIB 40 series cards. Meanwhile you could purchase FE models on German Nvidia site since release (not really, because bots purchased them before the countdown stopped)

>>106303183 (OP)
the best case is Fractal Design Define 7

>>106307514
I got it because it has usb ports at front which I wanted but other cases are way better for airflow

>>106303356
my 9070 xt has a higher steel nomad score than all but like 2 5070 tis on earth and im half retarded lol

>>106307566
>higher steel nomad score
Not a video game

>>106307098
60's are not coming in a year you are delusional.

Another win for Nvidia?

Anyone use this psu? It seems new. It's not the Seasonic one.
https://www.newegg.com/pccooler-atx-3-1-compatible-850w-80-plus-gold-certified-power-supplies-black-p3-kn850-g1f/p/1HU-038Y-00010?Item=9SIAHCTKGZ7588

>>106303334
sars AMD (and Android) are very good values sars! Apple and nvidia are too expensive!

>>106307131
4000 series bros.....we won.

>>106307566
3DMark raster tests are probably exposing NVIDIA GPU's driver overhead.

>>106307939
>+90% iOS market share in North Korea

>>106308070
That's retarded, Steel Nomad cares 0 about your processor.

>>106303356
Who the fuck cares cunt both rx 9000 series and RTX 5000 series both have architecture issues that can't be solved with drivers both company's need to do fucking better but they wont because it's a literal Mafia

>>106308137
There's definitely some extra CPU overhead on NVIDIA's side.
You have 5700X3D and 5900X powering some of the top 10 5070 Ti records in the world.
The CPUs listed in the top 10 for the 9070 XT make a lot more sense, even that 14600KF.
That i5's tuned by Noreng. He's a good OCer.
I'm not memeing here, I don't own a Radeon card either.

>>106308218
How exactly is your image supposed to lend credence to the theory that the scores are effected by driver overhead or just any type of cpu bottleneck?

>>106303183 (OP)
does anyone here have experience gaming on a mini pc? My old computer died on me and I don't want to spend a lot of money to buy a new one.
As long as I can run games in at least 720p, I don't care if I have to scale down the resolution. I don't even play very graphically intensive games usually. Mainly hearthstone, the bazaar, WoW, LoL, csgo, overwatch, etc.

>>106308318
The CPU sets the ceiling of how hard you can push the video card in these benchmarks.
3DMark benchmarks don't benefit much from X3D's 3D-Vcache, so 13/14th gen i9 CPUs can compete very well vs other CPUs.
If the GPU driver isn't causing as much CPU overhead, you shouldn't be seeing less competitive chips like the 5900X (effectively a better binned 5600X in gaming) & 5700X3D in the global top 10 results.

You don't see those older CPUs in the 5080 & 5090 global top 10s because higher-end cards attract more dedicated overclockers who will better tune their CPU & memory.

>>106308374
.

>>106308374
What's your budget, country, and monitor?

>>106308218
CPU doesn't bottleneck anything at 1440p calm your tits

>>106307911
It's not that good of a PSU if they can't provide at least a 7-year warranty.

>>106308402
A system with a tuned 5900X should be nowhere near the global top 10 for a GPU benchmark if there wasn't any driver overhead.

>>106307939
While arguing over GPUs and CPUs and operating systems and whatever makes sense, only girls give a shit about phones. You only need them to send messages to other people, maybe read stuff when you have nothing else to do. Any smartphone can do that, on account of the fact that they're all the fucking same.

>>106308402
stop saying retarded shit, just stick to the greenvsred shitposting&samefagging

has black fans in a white case ever looked good?

>>106308429
>>106308637
y'all fucking dumb there's no way 5900X has any meaningful bottleneck on 1440p, like practical difference, spare me the global top 20 bullshit that's where people use water blocks and insane setups of-course they'll have proper CPUs

>>106307566
>steel nomad
>benchmarks that can be ran by unstable systems
>spending time doing this for more than comparing your own personal scores
Loser shit, brownbro

>>106308682
Buy the white Fractal Momentum fans, they're very good.
I've shilled it to another anon, and he hasn't come back to complain about it.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105924942/#105932712

>'it's a bit expensive'
They're very good fans, almost as good as Noctua G2s.

my 5090 + 9800X3D system is the first time I've been truly satisfied with the performance of my PC

>>106308682
dont listen to the fractalnigger, just buy noctuas.

>>106308388
>If the GPU driver isn't causing as much CPU overhead, you shouldn't be seeing less competitive chips like the 5900X (effectively a better binned 5600X in gaming) & 5700X3D in the global top 10 results.
That's all still made under the assumption that steel nomad cares even a little bit about anything other than your graphics card, which I've personally never seen either myself or even seen anyone else claim before.
>>106308637
silence nigger

>>106308735
Fractal Momentum is the best 120/140mm white case fan since Noctua isn't making them.

>>106306778
>Hrrr if you don't buy $2k home monitor every year you are pooorfag hrr

>>106303183 (OP)
https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-GFX1250-32-User-SGPRs

R8 it. H8 it.
CPU/MOBO/RAM: https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007090/amd-ryzen-5-7600x3d,-asus-b650e-e-tuf-gaming-wifi-am5,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle
GPU (when back in stock): https://www.microcenter.com/product/692089/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-windforce-sff-triple-fan-16gb-gddr7-pcie-50-graphics-card
PC Case: https://www.microcenter.com/product/670010/inland-x1-tempered-glass-atx-mid-tower-computer-case-white
Storage: https://www.microcenter.com/product/671856/sk-hynix-platinum-p41-1tb-176l-3d-tlc-nand-flash-pcie-gen-4-x4-nvme-m2-internal-ssd
Cooler/PSU: www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4815831&Source=socialshare&utm_campaign=snc-typereplacer-_-sr-_-combo.4815831-_-datereplacer

>>106304931
from what I heard the fans are prone to rattle but its one of the quieter models with regards to coil whine and runs cool

>>106308733
I've been satisfied with gpus since the 4090 but the cpus still aren't fast enough for me

M-ATX is a scam by big NAS to prevent you from putting 3 8tb NVMEs and 6 24tb 3.5 HDDs inside your case

Is there a simple+passive solution to window positions getting fucked up on DP sleep? I don't want to run bloatware that makes me manually save window layouts and watch it move them back every time.

>>106308943 (Me)
Just realized I can duplicate the screen to a virtual monitor I happen to have installed, which does fix it but is still kinda retarded.

>>106307131
What's the difference between Smooth Motion and frame generation again? Game agnostic FG without requiring the developer to implement?

>>106304934
>But the next leaps are gonna be huge ones. New nodes for nvidia and amd and new socket for intel promising 4 generations of support. And the 9800X3D jump to 7800X3D jump had an architecture redesign and a massive jump in performance. And it's not that far out.
Posts like this are killing me, I've been waiting 11 years but mayyyybe I just have to wait a little longer. Seems really dumb to finally upgrade right before a big paradigm change. I'll be stuck with no upgrade path but a complete rebuild and everyone will be running around getting 500fps in 8k running 30c temps with their super computers meanwhile my long awaited upgrade will be old hat before the warranty even runs out.
I know this isn't really how it would be but that's how it feels. I feel paralyzed not knowing what the right choice will be. I can't wait forever I suspect this thing only has a little time left before it gives up the ghost. And there are games on the horizon I want to play. But for a once in a decade build I really wanted to go all out for once.

>>106307779
Actually yes. Badly shaded and lit hair has more of a negative effect than not being able to see light accurately scattering through skin. Good hair is the ultimate final boss of graphics. Even when they try to tackle it head on like full body fur physics it always looks wrong because the fur then moves like its been through a rigorous beauty regimen instead of being FUR.

>>106309086
consider this.
the 1080TI still beats the RTX 5050 by 1% in benchmarks.
it took 9 years for a top end system to become entry level.
you can complete a PHD in that amount of time

>>106304680
> for the next few years
Sure. nVidia's groundbreaking Neural Texture Compression delivers 90% VRAM savings.
https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-neural-texture-compression-delivers-90-vram-savings-with-dxr-1-2/

>>106304934
>New nodes for nvidia and amd
Is this true? I was thinking about selling my 5070ti to my neighbor so I could grab a 5090, but if waiting is the play? no problem

>>106309086
Just buy when you need to. Zen5 was also rumored to be the HUGE uarch upgrade ever since Mike Clark let it slip during the zen+ days. In reality, it only provided a very incremental upgrade (+5-20%) despite having massive uarch overhauls because plans didn't pan out and AMD had to downgrade the node from 3nm to 5nm+

>>106309102
>tfw the most realistic yiffing simulator will require the Nvidia 9090 TI in 2032 for 4000$ (4799$ actual price in stores)
why even live

>>106308863
>CPU/MOBO/RAM
High-value bundle

>GPU (when back in stock)
Should be fine.

>PC Case
Looks kind of tacky, but I get it if you want a cheap white case.

>Storage
Update that SK Hynix P41's firmware, the drive performance used to significantly slow down over time.

>PSU / Cooler bundle
The PSU is probably bang-average, but some of their CPU coolers are well-reviewed.

>>106308682
Only if they are balancing the color of other black components that are visible. I have all black components outside of the 3 fans that came with the white case, it forms a column of black from the top AIO to the bottom fans, as viewed from the typical 45-60 degree angle when seated. If I ever got a white replacement AIO I'd change the bottom fans to white so that color balance is maintained.

>>106308774
> 26 EUR
ARCTIC P14 PWM PST Value Pack of 5 units is 23 EUR. That Fractal fan is more than 500% more expensive but not even 50% better.

>>106309131
>Is this true?
Extremely likely to be true. Rumored to be 2nm.
It would make sense for everyone if NVIDIA used Samsung fabs for GeForce & Quadro GPU production.
Leave the costlier TSMC fab capacity for the higher-margin data center GPUs.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-reportedly-plans-to-use-Samsung-Foundry-s-2-nm-node-for-an-upcoming-GPU.1016712.0.html

>>106309173
>Rumored to be 2nm.
What does that mean? Explain it to me like I am a retard.

>>106309146
>Update that SK Hynix P41's firmware, the drive performance used to significantly slow down over time.
Thanks for heads up.

>>106309168
You can't put a price on QOL.

>>106309086
Intel's next socket w/Nova Lake next year promises 4 gens of support + a new L3$ cache scheme to combat the VCache of AMD's offerings in gaming. Meanwhile Zen 6 is the first redesign of the IOD for AMD since 2022 and promises a huge uplift as well (most likely from higher clocks) over the 5% uplift Zen 5 got over Zen 4. 2026 is looking like a major inflection point for CPUs.

>>106309131
Yes but we're two years away from GPU Next-gen (the Super Refresh doesn't count except for the 5070 which pours on a bunch of badly needed VRAM + extra CUDA cores) next year the action is mainly gonna be all about CPUs (and monitors with cheaper OLEDs + 5K QD-OLED).

>>106309116
>the 1080TI still beats the RTX 5050 by 1% in benchmarks.
Oh wow is that how 1080 boomers are coping now? Denying reality entirely by skirting the 1% hair?

>>106309178
same power draw as current cpus at 7 niggahertz clocks or very low power draw at current 6ghz clockspeeds
more transisters to increase performance per clock cycle
also 50% more cores in roughly the same die area

2nm is a huge upgrade but i'm more excited by amd FINALLY moving away from the 2 core chiplets + 1 io die configuration used since zen2 and hopefully fixing the latency and inefficient idle power inherent in current designs.

>>106308943
This literally does not happen to me

>>106309253
Supposedly it doesn't happen with all monitors and was fixed on W11, but I'm not installing that.

>>106309173
>It would make sense for everyone if NVIDIA used Samsung fabs for GeForce & Quadro GPU production.
>Leave the costlier TSMC fab capacity for the higher-margin data center GPUs.
I don't understand why AMD and/or Nvidia didn't do that this gen honestly. They know that they can sell every bleeding edge-node chip from TSMC for idiotic margins to AI/ML buyers and that would leave nothing available to sell to gamers so why not move their consumer lineup to a slower but much cheaper process that isn't capacity limited and not desirable by those big money clients? If I were in charge of their graphics divisions I'd either have done that years ago or stopped selling gaming graphics to consumers all together. Trying to Solomon's Baby the situation by forcing both markets to share the same coveted fab line allocation space is the worst of both worlds (major opportunity cost of missed AI dies + overly expensive gaming dies in short supply).

>>106309209
>>106309250
Neat, will any of this effect GPU's or is this strictly a cpu thing?

Does anybody else want to see Intel succeed not just to keep the competition alive, but because of a dark desire to want to push AIOs to their limits? Why did I buy this giant water-filled brick of a cooler if it only gets used during shader compilation? If Intel solves 3D cache for themselves, becomes worthwhile in DIY and yet also still manages to suck up as much power as a GPU, then maybe that AIO will really have to pull its weight. Might even lead to innovations in radiator and case design, which is of course more things to consoom.

OLED is a scam

>Sgs24y owner

>>106309279
It will affect both CPUs and GPUs; it's worth waiting for RTX 60 if you have a 5070 Ti.

>>106309298
I have a gtx960 :(

>>106309284
AMD have been sandbagging their chips for years in terms of theoretical clockspeed as they purposely over-fatten the IHS to retain cooler compatibility when they could run even faster and hotter if Intel can press them again. More cutthroat competition might also induce air cooler OEMs to get the damn thermosiphon to market before the sun swallows the Earth too.

>>106309321
Then buy any of the new cards that are within your budget (if you need to); they're all massive upgrades for you.

>>106309334
It's not the card it's the whole package, and once I do it I can't just turn around and do it again in a few years. I'm probably just going to wait and see what next year brings. The games I really want to play aren't quite ready so I still have some time. If this thing doesn't completely die on me I can probably live with it another year or two.

>>106309330
>heatpipe with more steps
As expected of Noctuah.

>>106309321
A literal 5050 would do to tide you over. Go get one.

>>106309354
Honestly that's not a bad idea, I might look into that on black friday.

>>106309343
Alright here's my suggestion:
1. Watch for sells on the 9800X3D/Combos during Black Friday November as recent news is AM5 will be supported through at least Zen 7 (4 more years of upgrade path).
If there's a good deal pull the trigger then because that's a guaranteed platform option and no real worthwhile GPU breakthroughs are happening until 2027.
2. If Black Friday sales are a bust, wait until Zen 6 (AM5) & Nova Lake (new Intel socket) launch next year and pull the trigger then as both options will have years of future upgradeability behind them (see >>106309205) and don't worry about next-gen GPUs afterward as they progress on a faster cadence than CPUs anyway so there's no point trying to time them.

Make sense?

>>106309438
Yeah that sounds good, I'm probably overthinking it all anyways. I've just never had the money to build so I've got that poor mentality and I'm second guessing every decision. Waiting to see what comes next year doesn't sound too bad. I really don't need to upgrade before then so maybe I can get in on those new CPU's and if not than the 9800 will probably be a lot cheaper.
I might get a really cheap GPU though and use it as a stop gap until the 6000 cards come along.

>>106309284
>limits
Anon, those limits cannot exceed laws of nature. 1x120 section transfers 100 watts of heat.

>>106306003
there's extra ghosts with pathtracing? spooky!

>>106309438
>Alright here's my suggestion because i suck multiple companys dicks you can choose from GayMD or Shitel and for gpu's you have Gaydeon and Shitex
WOW AMAZING

how come board manufacturers still use normal fan cooling for GPUs when they also make AIOs?
surely they'd make shit like 5090s with integrated AIOs by now instead of 4 slot bricks

>>106309740
air coolers save them millions in RMAs since apart from factory defects, they don't fail over time

>>106309740
>>106309748 this
Also unlike CPU AIOs which only need to cover a small die area of a pretty standard size , GPU AIOs would have to cover the die, VRAM chips, the entire VRM, etc. so designs would be much more expensive and complicated one-off solutions that cannot really be repurposed easily

>>106309637
Thicker rads, fans on both ends, externally mounted rads, more 420 compatibility.

Imagine buying a 1k oled that gets burn-in inevitably in a year or two, lol

>>106309740
bro?
>>106309780
they use basically a standard AIO for the core and then a fan on the card for the VRMs and memory

>>106310095
What I want to see are GPUs which have a modular heat spreader and backplate mount exactly like CPUs and will accept standard DIY AIOs.

I'm moving into a 5th wheel and I'm so glad everything I have is small. Literally gonna shove my itx 5800x3d and 6700xt build under the seating and run a HDMI cable up. 5800x3d and 6700xt massively undervolted and capped at 65w and 120w respectively. Getting 60fps at 1440p while the PC is using less than 200w.

G'day lads. Mother wants / needs a new desktop PC. Can reuse her current case. Worst case we go out and buy one.
She just does basic shit like emails, youtube, social media. Loves her desktop PC and doesn't want a tablet / phone to replace it all.
Wants 1TB storage.
$AUD
Thoughts?
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/wy6cnp

>>106310248
What's her current PC? Just chuck her on LTSC?

>>106310248
You could save some money with a used Optiplex or something but the list is decent if that's not on the cards.

>>106310274
How fucky are the drivers though?

>>106310248
Don't bother building for this sort of thing anymore, get your mom a beelink ryzen 6800u box or something for $250-300

I bought a 7500f last year for really cheap in one of these aliexpress sales and I don't really need to upgrade at all but these all time low prices are tempting me. Which one shall I go for if I were to get one?

On a side note my motherboard is asrock so will it cause issues with the 7800x3d?

r7 5700g
deepcool an600
2x8 ddr4 3600cl18 patriot viper steel
gigabyte a520i ac
1tb nvme
fsp sfx pro 450w

looking for a case recommendation, preferably something small; these are currently housed in a jonsbo c2 which i'm gonna use on another build
i'm not planning on adding a gpu or a hdd so i can get as small as i possibly can, a handle on the case would be nice

>>106310304
Holy shit is this real?
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809565618440.html
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809564626555.html

>>106310295
Eh, she is super spergy about this type of thing and wants 1TB storage. I can run it past her though.
$414 AUD after conversion. Looks promising.
i5-12450H
https://www.bee-link.com/products/beelink-eqi12-intel%C2%AE-core-1220p-12450h-12650h?variant=47617869480178

>>106310331
No, they will send you a fake tracking number then AliExpress will probably refund your money automatically after that store gets shut down

>>106310351
Damn...

>>106310343
You can buy things like this without storage and put your own nvme in it.

The only suggestion I have is you buy a U CPU and not H. If you buy H it will have more fan noise and any recent U CPU from either side will probably be overkill.

>>106310373
Eh, still cheaper and better to buy the parts like I had originally desu.

>>106310095
>aio
>put a fan over the gpu anyway
bruh

Do you guys think it's possible to build a pc that can do rocket league and CS2 at 1440p and 240 fps for under $900 USD if I'm reusing a monitor, case, and SSDs?

>>106310454
something needs to cool the memory and VRMs
some CPU AIOs have a VRM fan too

Any real point in going 140mm fans instead of 120mm? For about the same price as 5 Arctic P12 Pros, I can get two front 140mms and a rear 120mm

>>106310574
Yeah 140mm moves more air at the same noise level making them better as intake fans

>>106310574
I have my playset of noctua 140mm g2s, problem is that if I want another case, that doesn't support them, I'll need to buy a set of 120s. 140mm fans are a cruel mistress.

Should I even get a 9800x3d or just wait until 10 and 12 cores become standard?

>>106310692
Can you wait >18 months for zen6 x3d to be released?

>>106310692
>wait until 10 and 12 cores become standard?
We still have 8gb vram gpus as standard so how long do you think it will take till an increased core count on CPUs becomes normal?

Can someone explain why intel cpus aren't recommended anymore? I haven't built a new computer since 2018 so I'm really out of the loop

>>106310724
the increased core count is just icing on the cake compared to the 50% increase in shared L3

>>106310739
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x59AsHBKx7A
This video sums up the state of intel. Slower, hotter and requires more expensive ram/cooling than ryzen because of their 2.5-3.0x power draw

What's the most basic, cheap workhorse combo you can have at the moment? No fancy features needed. Just something modern that works.

Should I sell my pc part by part or as a whole?

>>106310692
Bless yourself with a 9950x3d

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

>>106310941
anime girls don't require this rendering technique, ergo it's useless

>>106310955
>rtx anti (hair) clipping
You heard it here first

Will prices for 50series nVidia cards go down in Europe in the next 4 weeks, or should I stop waitfagging and just buy one now?

>>106310281
It'd still be an IGP system (usually) so the only ones you'd have to worry about are any proprietary components. Like if they used an OEM WiFi chipset for example. Ideally you avoid those super-proprietary PCs in favour of (near-)standard ATX. Bit more research involved ofc - trade time for money. Up to you.

one of my buddies got his 9070 xt rma'd and since they took forever to get him a new one he had already bought a 5070 ti, snagging the 9070 xt off him tomorrow and replacing my 4070

>>106311039
yeah its gonna go down since nvidia is clearing stock before launching the supers

>>106310941
those strands of ultra dark hair are very ugly and distracting

https://newsroom.intel.com/corporate/softbank-group-and-intel-corporation-sign-2b-investment-agreement

INTEL WON & SAVED

I am waitfagging until AM6.
I will NOT upgrade my 5800X.
I will not be using DDR5.
I will not utilize PCI-E 5.0.
I will not use more than 32 GB of RAM, nor 8 GB of VRAM.
I will absolutely NOT buy an aquarium style PC case with gay lights in it.
Fuck you.

>>106303201
>Attention span destroyer 5000
You think that shit would impress anyone who knows a single bit about human attention?
You’re actively destroying your brain, friend.

>>106303326
But it’s not a single thing to concentrate on in your picture. You have a game running, watching a show, checking Steam charts, reading 4chan, having open another browser with image search (or something).
Yes, you’re splitting your attention (hard) and that is known to be hugely detrimental to mental hygiene.

>>106311379
>I will absolutely NOT buy an aquarium style PC case with gay lights in it.
based. i DO NOT want to see or hear my pc. it is meant to stay under a desk where it can not be percieved

>>106303326
yeah i used to have triple monitors in the 2010s but replaced it with a single ultrawide which better achieves what I wanted in the first place, immersion.

>>106306735
Bought my TV and my monitor in late 2022 (both first gen QD-OLED) and they show no signs of breaking, image retention or brightness reduction.
What do you do to your hardware that you’d think that they would not last 3 years for you?

>>106303939
>turn on PC
>go pee, make coffee
>PC is on
What is the issue?

>>106304152
I am still waiting for the rumoured 9970x3dx3d with cache on both CCX

>>106311234
So between this and the 10% stake the US government is reportedly gonna put into them:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-18/trump-administration-said-to-discuss-taking-a-10-stake-in-intel
Where is Intel on the scale now from It's so over... to They're so back!

>>106305562
Wouldn't buying a new PSU fix the problem? I was planning on doing that anyway.
Thank you for your answer.

>>106311472
softbank is not known to make good investments

>>106311448
inb4 its a limited edition cpu with limited stock to celebrate their 56th anniversary

>>106311379
the only reason to upgrade from a 5800X is if you need/want more cores

3:2 gaming monitor when?

>>106311707
16:10 is close enough?

>>106310912
Out my of budget and didn't it have similar performance to 9800 in gaming I believe

Nova Lake will be absolutely gangbusters

>>106311778
Too bad that 16:10 comes only in 24" fullHD+ and low refresh rate

>>106311707
just pillarbox bro

>>106311806
yeah since its not a monolithic cpu but 8+8 with split L3 caches

should i get
Samsung S90D 42 inch
LG C4 42 inch
or Samsun Neo g7 42 inch (non curved)
?

>>106311952
>>106311778
no, i need a proper 3:2 IPS 1440p 165hz+ monitor minimum

>>106311970
If you can afford an OLED, you get an OLED so the Neo G7 LCD is an auto-discard.
The S90D 42" is a sneaky move by Samsung since it also uses LG's WOLED panel and not their QD-OLEDs found in their 55"+ sizes:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/s90d-s90dd-oled-qd-oled#page-test-differences
So literally whichever between it and the C4 happens to be cheaper, though I don't recommend the 42" TVs for monitor use because their pixel density is poor compared to the 27"/32" 4K monitors plus they have worse refresh rates (only 144Hz vs. 240Hz+) and in the case of QD-OLED monitors better color volume/gamut coverage as well.

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>>106311871
Benq released a couple 2560x1600 24" monitors last year, and a 3840x2560 28" that's just a Mateview refresh, but they're all 60hz