Thread 106305640

Discussion of Free and Open Source Text-to-Image/Video Models

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https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
re/Forge/Classic: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassic
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflows
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com/
https://tensor.art
https://openmodeldb.info
https://openart.ai/workflows

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/tree/sd3
https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe

>WanX
https://github.com/Wan-Video
2.1: https://rentry.org/wan21kjguide
2.2: https://rentry.org/wan22ldgguide
https://alidocs.dingtalk.com/i/nodes/EpGBa2Lm8aZxe5myC99MelA2WgN7R35y

>Chroma
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-HD/tree/main
Training: https://rentry.org/mvu52t46

>Illustrious
1girl and Beyond: https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl
Tag Explorer: https://tagexplorer.github.io/

>Misc
Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
Samplers: https://stable-diffusion-art.com/samplers/
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Bakery: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage

>Neighbours
https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#rentry-from-other-boards
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>>>/b/degen
>>>/b/realistic+parody
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality
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When was you when Kontext was kill ?

Blessed bread of porridge

>>106305409
Well it's this one lewdcactus/namespace illustrious lora that I prefer the look of compared to the others https://civitai.com/models/382886
Full name
>LewdCactus (Namespace) - Illustrious/Pony - v1.0 (WAI)

>torrent site for models
What's the name of it?

Why doesn't Qwen Edit turn them into manlets ? Something must be wrong

chroma flash testing. it's good for photos, both 1MP and higher.

>>106305680
It's fucking black magic.

>>106305680
i was sat at home genning 1girl

>>106305700
OK for anime, slight sloppification. this is with heun btw

>>106305697
I dun goof'd with the picture.. Forgot this is a blue board.

>>106305713
me too sir

So what does rewrite prompt do in qwen image online demo?

>>106305728
It's over for you anon, consequences will never be the same

>>106305732
qwen image edit*

>>106305718
painting capabilities are COMPLETELY RUINED at 1MP however. even qwen looks less slopped than this.

>>106305746
It gets their llm to rewrite your prompt

>>106305749
Heun is part of the problem here seemingly. Euler recovers the fine details like brushstrokes. also, lack of negatives seems to hurt in this example, no way to prompt against extra limbs (without getting NAG working).

>>106305602
immersion shattered

>>106305762
Right, but is that documented anywhere? what llm is used with what params and prompt?

>>106305732
https://huggingface.co/spaces/Qwen/Qwen-Image-Edit/blob/main/app.py

>qwen nunchaku
>qwen edit
>wan nunchaku soon
TOTAL CHINKOID DOMINATION

>>106305771
omegabased

>>106305772
Severe case of Kontext-Head

>>106305786
>>106305790
Thanks

>>106305699
The real answer is safety stans can't win against a established company with a $300B valuation.

> Yes, the "manlet" problem is a safety mechanism to help prevent deepfaking.

Interesting

>>106305769
upping res also helps fix chroma flash. this is because chroma flash is based on v50 AFAICT, and v50 had a weird fuckup that made it bad at 1MP. with Euler and >1MP res, we have partially recovered the painting capabilities of chroma. however, it still fucks up dark scenes badly, and we are back to having bad hands (not pictured).

see the hashes here:
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-HD/blob/main/Chroma1-HD.safetensors
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma/blob/main/chroma-unlocked-v50.safetensors

>>106305827
>Yes, the "manlet" problem is a safety mechanism to help prevent deepfaking.
This can't be real, chat, is this real ?

>>106305749
>>106305769
Can you test how it works with the chrom cache node? With interval set to 1

>>106305828
I need this

>>106305828
you don't need AI to remove a fucking hair

>>106305840
It's real, BFL are safety-tards

>>106305790
the system prompt for the prompt rewriter is the closest thing to a prompt guide for qwen image we have right?

but im assuming since its also alibaba that it's captioned a similar way that WAN is

>>106305866
>being this brown

>>106305870
No, actually there's this: https://github.com/QwenLM/Qwen-Image/blob/main/src/examples/tools/prompt_utils.py

>>106305838
here's an example of chroma v50 flash totally breaking down. bad hands, way too bright, anatomy fail, weird artifacted highlights. using euler beta, at least it kind of looks like a painting still.

>>106305854
no, I have no use for that as it degrades output a lot and is yet another extra node to install.

>>106305869
kek, what an absolute fail they are

>>106305771
China makes actual new, good stuff while Sam Altman is a fucking retard making garbage models for western normies.

>>106305771
>open source company
you should shoot the one faggot for saying that and both of you for reposts

>>106305893
heun beta is even worse here. heun seemingly is good for photos and cartoons, but dogshit at paintings.

>>106305893
post workflow

>>106305699
this means we can make character loras on just one image right

>>106305886
neat
someone needs to turn this into a resource or a rentry guide or something

>>106305882
How is wan so fucking good, lads?

Not sure if there's any point in using flash huen if it's ultimately still v50. The turbo loras for v48 are there as well.

>>106305940
the west is filled with retards

what's the current leading edge of anime models?

>>106305929
You might have thought these two women are totally into building sand castles, but they are

>>106305961
vrped sdxl (illustrious BASED). as usual chinks can't copy anime correctly

>>106305961
noob/illustrious, for anime wai v14 or hassaku probably

>>106305961
Nobody is doing anime these days, it was just a fad

>>106305974
>>106305975
>>106305986
can you guys explain what is qwan and chroma?

>>106306008
really smart models great at realistic but everything else I've seen for anime, manga, etc has been very bland. qwen has an encoder that understands booru tag prompting so there is hope but the model is huge so not very likely anyone will actually train it

the curly hair and studs makes for a much more aggressive snu-snu vibe

>>106305940
>How is wan so fucking good, lads?
dont respect copyright if you want to compete in the 21st century. don't respect decency if you want to win.


>>106305968
did the bunda break your brain anon this post makes no sense

>>106305771
>>106305902
It's very important that 30% of the budget goes to safety and refusing to answer questions!

>>106305957
What did you prompt for the leek toss?

>>106305942
v50 flash is fast and good for some things. but a v49 or v48 flash model would be better. someone less lazy than me could merge that delta model and see if we get something better.

>>106306008
Qwen is the lastest 'state of the art' local image model, it is REALLY good and handles text and spatial awareness extremely well, downsides is that it is LARGE and slow, also the output is kind of 'slopped' but that can be fixed with lora / finetune.

Chroma is a de-distilled and de-censored version of Flux Schnell, being much smaller than Qwen it can't compete in absolute quality, particularly fine anatomy, but it is not slopped which helps a lot with photorealism and it is fully uncensored which helps a lot with NSFW, for best results, this will also need lora / finetune.

>>106305957
live leak situation

>>106305961
who gives a shit what the "leading edge" is, the activity is all on illustrious and its various checkpoints, there's like 200 character loras uploaded every day strictly compatible with it.

>>106306032
>dont respect copyright if you want to compete in the 21st century
Well it's not as if the western models respect copyright either. All of them are trained on all the copyrighted material they can find.

>>106306032
>did the bunda break your brain anon this post makes no sense
There should have been a 'not' there

>'You might not have thought these two women are...'

Typo

>>106306034
openAI is worried about how many emotes their fucking LLM use in responses, they are absolute retard tier.

>>106305961
Noob still beats models several times larger for anime knowledge and styles. It can run on a potato too.

>>106306061
Until now they didn't, but there are various pushes to "respect copyright" aka banning models from being trained on any material with IP holders, and also asking permissions to every person when it's public.
Which would completely destroy the industry in the West.

>>106306096
lmao

>>106306096
Stop attacking them, they only need $800 billion more and then we get AGI, surely we will

>>106305975
I like smoothmix myself, it has that flavour of more “3dcg/realistic” anime just right that I love. There’s also one called “one obsession” that’s pretty good

>>106305697
>>106305728
I found the torrent site and it had it.

Now to figure out why my local gens don't quite look the same..

>>106306043
can qwen generate nsfw?

>>106306037

True. Love chroma but there's no real way around how slow it is.

>>106306096
>>106306128
I'm surprised nothing happened to them while gpt5 is genuinely not the revolution people and investors expected, but just a small evolution at best and a sidestep at worst.

I like how chroma approaches the scene from different ways with some of the gimmick schedulers

>>106306114
Even for big tech it would be too expensive to license all copyrighted material they need to train on, and no, synthetic data is not good enough, it's too heavily generalized, it's like inbreeding, not a good short term solution and a terrible long term solution.

I mean, so far not a single model was even able to make this.

pretty impressive.

>>106306151
softcore tits yes
porn no, at least not until someone does "chroma" finetune out of it or we get loads of loras

>>106306177
oh for sure, and the IP requirements are nuts anyway, it's like asking me to check every author if I can train my writing skills by reading them

>>106306151
No, not really, but unlike with Flux there doesn't seem to be an active attempt at censorship, just that it hasn't trained on nudity except for some topless.

Meaning it should be relatively easy to make NSFW loras / finetunes.

>>106305797
>wan nunchaku soon
Kek, they've been cock teasing this shit and putting it off for MONTHS. Originally comfy was FIRST on the list, then...

>fusionX lora appeared
>got distracted
>flux kontext/krea appeared
>got distracted
>qwen appeared
>got distracted
>now we have chroma
>guess whats next? sure is fuck aint wan nunchaku, nigger

I'll excuse lightx2v, sage attention 2.2/++ and sparse-videogen because those are speed ups but the rest have been jumping the queue. When people stop creaming their panties over the next shiny new image model, they'll do wan

>>106306215
>unlike with Flux there doesn't seem to be an active attempt at censorship
Wasn't flux dev relatively ok on that front, and it's only on their more recent models that they went full "let's make it as shitty as possible to generate nsfw"?

>>106306228
Being a video model it's probably a bit more complex, doing image models is probably easier and faster

>>106306262
No, sadly not. Flux dev (and Schnell) was trained on lots of synthetic data with mutilated nipples and people with missing genitals, all in an attempt to prevent NSFW finetuning as much as they could.

>>106306228
Wait what does it mean "Integrate lightx2v"?
They want to make a wan svdquant with included lightx2v? If so that sucks, I want nunchaku to never touch lightx2v and its problems again.

>>106306168
Grok will drive AI in the west because Elon fucking hates Scam Altman and he is the richest man on Earth.

>>106306283
Man, what a shitty idea.

bros, wtf.

Qween is the first model that I feel can properly understand natural language.

Does civitai automatically run some sort of face fix on the gens? If they do how do I get that for local? I'm using forge.

Same prompt. Same settings as far as I can tell. What scheduler does civitai use for Euler a?

>>106306228
I see this: https://github.com/nunchaku-tech/nunchaku/issues/431

I hope they updated it to wan2.2 but who knows.

>>106306324
no artists = no download

>>106306267
Yeah I heard somewhere images were easier for the nunchaku

>>106306285
It probably means its just compatible with the loras so it doesn't slop and not baked in...I hope. But yes, both fusionX and even lightx2v changes or slops the faces

https://github.com/mit-han-lab/radial-attention

>>106306344
what kind of retarded response is that

>>106305886
nice find. gonna use this with gpt-oss

>>106306344
Either WAN is fine, 2.1, 2.2, my 16gb card is ready
>Integrate with VACE
This thing is gonna gen faster than qwen, calling it now

>>106306359
Kek

Slopiter

>>106306503
that shadow it casts on jupiter doesn't look quite right scale

>>106306520
it's a big ship

Honestly you could make a manga with Qween.

So at first try, Chroma Flash doesn't seem bad, but unfortunately the prompt adherence is not the same. This is similar to the result you'd get on V48 for this.
https://files.catbox.moe/g8eg26.png
https://files.catbox.moe/gq9dnj.png

Do note that v1 Flash HD is more slopped at lower res, the lower you go to 1024 and that is very visible in the first catbox. Good news is going up in res does not hurt its improved coherence/performance. But it's still not as strong at prompt following as OG Chroma.

But if exact prompt precision is not necessary it seems good.

>>106306531
Prompt was
>Amateur photograph capturing a fierce and magnetic group of five young Korean idol women...

And then you've got precise descriptions of their clothing and v50 1152 nails it regardless of seed.

That is one of the things I don't understand. v50 is just so strong at multiple subject prompt following even compared to v48 and previous versions.

What's the LoRA situation like for Chroma - can it use flux LoRAs or does it need its own?

Are there any sort of docs/guides to take someone from being a noob with a basic comfyui workflow to the next level?

is Qwen edit gguf out already?

>>106306585
>can it use flux LoRAs or does it need its own
it needs its own, and only two trainers (diffusion-pipe and ai-toolkit) support it. onetrainer is supposedly working on it. no clue about kohya.
>Are there any sort of docs/guides to take someone from being a noob with a basic comfyui workflow to the next level?
if you're specifically talking about Chroma then you really don't need anything other than the base workflow. anything other than the basic workflow for t2i tends to be a monkey's paw

>>106306585
>can it use flux LoRAs or does it need its own?
"some" of them work or at least partially. You'd need to check one by one

>>106306182
neta lumina actually might be able to do that. and novelai, though that's saas.

>>106306622
kohya has support now

comfy
wan2.2_i2v_low_noise_14B_fp8_scaled.safetensors

vs

kijai
Wan2_2-I2V-A14B-LOW_fp8_e4m3fn_scaled_KJ.safetensors

?

>>106306703
for the kijai one, prefer the e5 if you have the 3090 otherwise for newer cards use e4m3fn

>>106305942
This model is weird. Like, based on my experience testing Chroma models I can tell you it's 100% fixing imperfections on some prompts to the point you don't want to go back (pic rel). But it's cheating coherence on many concepts. Like uber slopping multiple subject prompts to the point they can't be done any more.
>>106306531

And it introduces a new type of artifact some of the images as well, though not all. Besides, something is off about the flash model's images being better than the base model. It makes no conceptual sense. Like Chroma just learns everything at first, then fucks itself when it learns more, or something like that. A regression of sorts has fixed it. That means somewhere in the training is the fuckup.

>>106306648
the gui, the training scripts, or musubi?

what the fuck up with wan

thong? strapless bikini or bra? microbikini? Never heard of it. Fashion and online clothing retail doesn't even exist and has zero digital footprint. Erased from history. Like the library of Alexandria.

Oh you want an eames chair? Let me render it in perfect detail. I can do an exploded view and give you cad drawings if you want.

>>106306747
Slight variations to prompts got an upgrade. Fucked up gen? Just add period, or comma, or remove it, etc... and now you get a fix 90% of the time. It's like magic.

>>106306792

Turn her into a zootopia and we'll see how it fares.

>>106306791
Thongs exist but aren't tagged properly sadly.

>>106306747
nice feet

>>106306761
take off the gui training wheels

>>106306703
Wan2.2-I2V-A14B-LowNoise-Q8_0.gguf
works with torch compile 3090
don't use e5m2, the quality is terrible

>>106305640 (OP)
Looking at OP dinosaur eating her head off looking more like dorohedoro look in my mouth real quick, it occurred to me.

AI was never trained on gore. Not even violent movies and the like. Anons trained it on porn but violence is completely alien to it. It has no idea what it looks like. It always looks like it's trying to act like a retarded mimic attempting to show what punching or shooting a gun or biting someone whould look like. Highly over the top performative but never actually doing the simple violent thing.

https://github.com/ziplab/VIDEO-BLADE
https://ziplab.co/BLADE-Homepage/

>14.10× speedup on Wan2.1-1.3B
>1.3B

aw..

>>106306061
>Well it's not as if the western models respect copyright either. All of them are trained on all the copyrighted material they can find.
yes, this is why they're still in the race at all
but they're not going to win with the attitude towards censorship that they have compared to china. china's censorship comes later in the chain so they can do as uncensored of research as they want

>>106306791
skill issue. try mini thong. micro bikinis may need a lora but try "triangle bikini" as well.

>>106306825
i know for a fact that writing "thong" versus "bikini bottom" shows more butt flesh at all ages
i highly recommend the upskirt helper lora when doing anything related to big butts captured from behind. it even works pretty good with the BBFW (better buttholes for wan) lora to generate butthole creepshot upskirts pretty well

>>106306894
hopefully someone can apply it to the full wan as well, or even the 5b. 5b is getting a lot of lora support from vramlets

>>106306920
How? The 5B is pure shit

>>106306920

5b is a paradoxical model marketed as low vram while being hard coded for 720p footage that will fry any vram limited card. Not sure why they even released it in its current state.

>>106306818
>Zootopia
I'm no furry

>>106306830
Thanks

>>106306747
>>106306792
try DDIM with AYS or similar.

>>106306986

It's a kids movie anon. I didn't ask for feet pics.

>>106305771
Anybody who thinks devs are going to stop using Sonnet for fucking Qwen are delusional

>Quality: High 1024x1024
>$0.167 Per image
https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-image-1
holy fuck, do APIcucks really??

>>106307017
>all or nothing fallacy

I like how chroma literally has intrusive thoughts.

>>106307034
uh huh. keep dreaming chang

Man, why is every chroma output so noisy and ugly?

>>106307043
>ad hominem
Oof, thanks for that concession npckiddo

>>106307049
Qwen has about as much chance against Sonnet as GIMP has to Photoshop or LibreOffice has against MS Office, i.e. none

This general has gotten so much worse since that one guy from /pol/ came.

>>106307070
True, I know multiple friends from my personal discord that stopped coming here because of transphobic chuds posting their poltard drivel.

>>106307068
Are you really that low IQ? You are in a general where people are all using shittier models than the proprietary ones, despite the proprietary ones being "better" in overall quality. Almost like, it's not all about using the biggest, most expensive, blackbox model?

>>106307073
no one cares about your fake delusions about being a girl you will never be in a stable diffusion thread, fuck off.

>>106307111

See what I'm saying? These poltards ruin EVERYTHING. FUCK OFF.

>>106307091
Are you retarded? The conversation started as a response to a garbage screenshot from twitter about US models supposedly losing "market share" to Chinese models. It's called a discussion dufus, that includes refutation. This isn't your plebbit hugbox where everybody agrees, faggot

I love art depicting humans

>>106307068
is claude sonnet really that good? i've been using gemini 2.5 pro mostly for code peonage and the results are meh, but it's free. I'd consider paying for something somewhat better. I mainly deal with graphics programming and nothing really seems to understand spatial concepts and I've only really been able to save time when the system could regurgitate something from github faster than me.

>>106307126
rolf go fuck youself

What's the state of GPUs today? Is the 5000 series still gross? Is there a single good value model to speak of at all?

>>106307135
For API use in Cursor, Cline, Windsurf, Aider, etc. there's nothing better than Sonnet. That's why despite the price it's consistently at the top in usage. Sonnet follows instructions better, writes cleaner code, and usually is best at solving a given coding problem. Occasionally I'll use a model like Gemini or GPT-5 if I have a really gnarly bug that Sonnet can't handle but 99% of the time it's the go-to

>>106307132
me too human friend, we all love humans here

>>106307099
she's like some kind of smoke type pokemon.

>>106307142
3090 is mid tier
4090 is high tier
5090 is the best consumer model
6000 pro if you're a prosumer
h100 if you're a professional in the industry with a shit load of money
h200 if you're a CEO

those are the only gpus that matter. anything else is just cope.

>but but but but muh 16gb vram 5070 ti
nope get out of here

>>106307126
im saying your post about your troon discord is not relevant to technology. dont discuss off topic stuff.

>>106307187
I was replying to the guy who started the discussion, learn to read, smelly chud. >>106307070

>>106307195
>chud
no amount of delusion will change biology.

>>106307184
Funny enough the 3090 still cost MORE than the 5070 Ti. That's just how good it is

anyways. qwen edit ggufs where/when?

biological humans look delicious

>>106306996
I don't recall asking what you wanted anon

anistudio status?

>>106307243
would've been decent if her nose didnt elongate.

I guess the new standard for video gen is 128gb ram

this general is basically just asian post spammer & miku spammer now. man what happened

post other things, be the change you want to see.

>>106307281
the standard for video gen is to have as many resources as you can afford.

>>106307184
From a quick search, I'm getting
$8000 for the 6000
$3000 for the 5090
$2100 for a USED 4090
$800 for a USED 3090
Fucking hell. Got anything around $500? LOL!

I finally decided to start locally genning and I've been working with 1.5 minute 896x512 gens from my old 1060 6gb. Everything is fucked! Guess I won't bother. Maybe I'll pick up a used 3090.

>>106307292
maybe in a perfect world
here it's making the most of what you've got

>>106307281
what on earth are you genning?

>>106307297
>Fucking hell. Got anything around $500? LOL!
Nah I wouldn't waste time with local AI if that's all you can afford. I'm sure some anon may jump in and explain how you can technically do SDXL with a shitty budget gpu but it'll be slow and miserable.

>Maybe I'll pick up a used 3090.
That would be for the best.

My 6000 RTX pro workstation card is on order boys

>>106307316
kijais wan 2.2 720x1280 fp8 scaled light lora

>>106306894
>>106306920
Lightning is already this isn't it? How is this different?

>>106307184
>>but but but but muh 16gb vram 5070 ti
>nope get out of here
kek just bought one a few days ago and its a big step up from a 3060 so i'm happy. no video for me yet but i'm still not gooned out on images.

>>106307339
should've waited imo. we will have the 6000 series probably in early 26'. the 6090 will be much cheaper and offer most likely similar performance.

>>106307254

I didn't ask for your color commentary if you want to be semantic about it. Just post something that isn't an Asian woman.

>>106307375
*pedantic
yes I'm aware of the irony

>>106305856
You can do such tasks with Lama desu,
https://github.com/Sanster/IOPaint

But where it really comes in handy is in photoreal stuff where that struggles.

>>106307142
if 5000 series supers have double the vram they might be the value models

>>106307375
>post something that isn't an Asian woman.
only type of woman chuddies are into on this board son.

>>106307406
but 'chuddies' aren't the only people here

>>106307413
uh, did you forget we're on 4chan?

>>106307297
>1060 6gb
Stick to free buzz genning on civitai. You can do a decent bit every day or save up buzz and go crazy.

>>106307135
I don’t understand why, even though I put in all the private GitHub data and joined the game, I keep losing the competition, while Claude keeps winning consistently.

>>106307371
Oh I'm not paying for it, work is. I'm working on a 4 CPU server build, but I can't keep that at home, too loud

>>106307371
Nta do you honestly think nvidia, of all companies is going to offer that much speed and 96gb in 2026 or even 2027 at any kind of affordability? We'll probably see a 48GB card at around 5k that'll perform worse than the 6000 blackwell, get real

>>106307432
4 GPU*
fucker needs 220volt power input.

>>106307387
Since they keep putting off the decision, the actual release will probably only be announced around the end of next year.

>>106307339
the max-q 300 or 600 watt?

>>106307413
Yeah, only 99%

>>106307416
more steps

I've been using kijai's teacache node since 2.1 and I finally got sick of it failing one in 20 times, so I tried the other one and now I filled with shame

how many people do you think post in /ldg/?

>>106307278
in death she became a real girl.

been jerking off to wan 2.2 creations for like
days
this is insane. it can basically do whatever fetish I want
literally unlimited porn is here

>>106307586
looks a bit like EV nova concept art

>>106307710
be careful or you will irrevocably injure your mind, body and soul

>>106307406
One of the problems with the boorutag system that’s so prevalent and popular with models is that danbooru has on multiple times to add race tags. I remember seeing a thread with some gay ass “how could you tell just by looking at an image?” Argument that all the basedboys on there seemed to agree with. So when you want to break out of that and prompt something like “Indian woman” or “Mexican woman” at best some models just make a darker skinned Asian/caucasian features woman.

>>106307729
that was lost back when I jerked it to Lost Life and other games

>>106307738
Refused to add, it should say.

>>106307602
>>106307297
>>106306986
>>106306134
>>106305672
>>106305671
BEAHAGAHAH

>>106307710
I've been spending insane amounts of time creating very specific pornographic scenarios that excite me a lot to feed into wan. and my mind keeps thinking about new things I should do. The dopamine levels are off the chart.
I know I have to quit but I want to do just a few more. Some fantasies that I want to bring to life.
But I'm gonna have to make Loras. and lots of them.

>>106307813
almost forgot my TRIP ;D

>>106307818
You and me both, brother. You and me both...

>>106307710
I felt the same when I first found 1.5. And LLMs too. The problem is, it basically simulates what it would be like to an omnipotent sex crazed god and you get bored of it in a week after your dopamine receptors get fried.
Then it turns into a sad reminder that there is no higher high. You feel good for a week and then you feel normal again.
This is then contrasted that there's some dude in the world who feels just as high highs from picking a good batch of potatoes once a year.

>>106307836
Yeah, but this satisfies my fetish that is not very accepting in society and I'm a gooner. Its fine for me.

>>106307842
Why is it always uwooo with you guys I swear

>>106307846
uuuuoooohhhhhh tot

>>106307846
careful, your post is a little off-topic if you know what I mean
don't wanna offend anyone

>>106307846
cunny cunny cunny cunny
This post made by the loligang

>>106307842
Yes we all have depraved fetishes that have no basis in reality. My point is consuming them non-stop enviably just leaves you burned out trying to chase a high that doesn't exist.

>>106307861
Well, hasn't happened yet!

>>106307861
bro ive been consuming cunny since i was 16 (im 35) now and im not remotely anywhere NEAR burnt out. like at all. i fucking love this shit i could literally bury my nose in cunny all day it NEVER gets old.

fuck off

>>106307872
Bruh moment

>>106307872
bruh

>>106306182
based king

>>106307836
>You feel good for a week and then you feel normal again.
speak for yourself

>>106307872
BASED

>>106306182
https://youtu.be/tLX_jUn8w3U?si=VajdCpr8ZWlcDRnS&t=10

>>106307872
share your LORA with me man

>>106307892
fapping isn't the same as taking drugs or anything. thankfully your body naturally limits you from being hopelessly addicted or burnt out. It also helps cure prostate cancer.

>>106307906
>overworking my dong\delicate kegel muscles surely wont cause problems!

control yourself man

>>106306531
So it turns out the Flash version is v48 according to Lodestone on Discord. If someone can figure out how to merge that into v49 or perhaps one of his new experimental HD checkpoints then that'd be great

>>106307906
>thankfully your body naturally limits you from being hopelessly addicted or burnt out.
Yeah, in the real world with real people. Not when you have a machine designed specifically to extract as much dopamine from your brain as possible for as long as you want.

qwen edit ggufs where

>*Approaches you, pale, eyes bloodshot, cock swollen and purple, pale from lack of sunlight with the moans of JAV actresses heard coming from his computer.*
>"Actually, gooning is a perfectly natural and healthy human behavior"

>>106308016
>JAV
oh you little precious child you
lol...

>>106308016
I know you have this ridiculous vision of what some of us may look like but I personally only fap once every 3-4 days and I work out. I'm not pale, don't have bloodshot eyes nor fap long enough to get any kind of swelling you speak of.

but whatever helps your stereotype man

>>106308032
>>106308027

I'd be willing to just let it go if you conceded that modern technology has facilitated the rise of a gooning addiction that is neither natural nor healthy.
You having a gooning addiction or not is irrelevant.

>>106308016
Literally

Bros...
Wan 2.2 takes like an hour to work for me
Are you guys letting it run over night or something?

>>106308063
Like 10 minutes max if I care about big resolutions. What are your settings?

>>106308063
nigger post your card

>>106308059
The only thing unhealthy about gooning is that you may lose interest in pursuing relationships and perhaps have unrealistic expectations when it comes to real sex.

>>106307492
>more steps
35 steps. yep, images are sharper.

>>106308063
have you tried rendering on something other than your grandmas toaster pc?

>>106308073
>unrealistic expectations when it comes to real sex.
Real women don’t have tails, the dream was over before it began.

well i tried chroma flash. it's two steps forward, two steps back. hopefully the furry can figure out what's good about this model and apply it to a version that isn't fucked up.

>>106308073
Relationships with women are objectively not healthy.

>>106308063
if you want fast speed at the expense of shit quality, use lightx2 lora.

>>106308067
>>106308071
>>106308081
4060 ti 16gb
32gb system ram
Shits all I can afford
30 steps
480p
3.5 cfg

>>106308116
>30 steps
use the lightx2v lora
https://github.com/kijai/ComfyUI-WanVideoWrapper/blob/main/example_workflows/wanvideo2_2_I2V_A14B_example_WIP.json

>>106308086
My ex-gf has plenty of tales.

>>106308105
In my case it performs poorly with very complex/long prompts. Not all hope is lost though. I'd like to see how it performs with a v49/v50 merge.

>>106308116
>>106308131
low cfg, properly trained lora(if any at all), & >>106308131 this. step count must be above 30-35
im still using wan 2.1 though

>>106308158
>>106308116
its not that you CAN'T use lora but be sure to follow the specific trigger phrases & use appropriate weights\cfg suggested by the trainer

>>106307836
i went on a six month drug-fueled coom bender when I got pony (and then illustrious) set up. now it's like you say, after being able to simulate any fantasy you want, it's not as exciting. in fact, nothing sexual is as exciting or motivating anymore. it's kind of freeing.

when AI coom becomes accessible to brainlet normies though, it will absolutely destroy society in ways never seen before.

>>106308105
>hag
>not just a hag
>a brown hag
can you just...like, leave?

>>106308167
shutup bitch

>>106308198
I don’t know if the chroma poster is some kind of anti chroma psyop or what because he always generates the most horrible shit, last night it was ugly Japanese hags on the street. I just don’t get his angle

>>106308231
what's the matter? you don't like pictures of japanese hag's feet? you gay or something?

New chroma HD mid checkpoint is up and it looks much better already
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/chroma-debug-development-only/blob/main/HD/2025-08-18_18-55-34.pth

>>106308285
post examples

>>106308275
Nah it wasn’t even the feet posts at least those kinda make sense from a fetish angle, it was just literally ugly Japanese woman posing on a city street. Like why

>>106308231
Good question. It has to just be a troll. Probably someone who thought they were posting cool stuff, but then got called out, and as "retaliation" have decided to continue to act retarded as a way to "win".
Seen it a lot.

>>106308073
I'd rather be a gooner than let myself get scammed by a 3dpd. The system is rigged against men here.

>>106308291
He was reacting to a much more aesthetically pleasing picture from qwen image. He went ballistic and posted multiple versions of a similar image to prove Chroma was better.

>>106308285
>2025-08-18_18-55-34.pth
give me a real human format

>>106308285
nice dolphin porn NFT miner

>>106308170
>when AI coom becomes accessible to brainlet normies though, it will absolutely destroy society in ways never seen before.
I can see that

like once it gets to the point where any retard can speech prompt porn on their phones we're done

does anyone use res_2s for wan?

My take on Chroma vs Qwen as somone who uses both and trained for both:

1 - Qwen is extremely slopped out of the box, but the outputs are much less mangled and higher quality, gets fine details right.
2 - Chroma is unslopped out of the box, but lacks good fine detail. Seems to be improving with recent checkpoints, though.
3 - Qwen follows instructions better and can do better text, but let's not pretend 90% of people will not care about that since you don't need complexity for "1girl" type images.
4 - Qwen with good loras should stomp Chroma both base and with loras.
5 - The catch is that it's way harder to train Qwen loras. I had mixed results, while with Chroma it's a breeze.
6 - For goon sessions, Chroma is the obvious winner since it knows NSFW out of the box and the outputs are "good enough", especially with loras.
7 - You will hardly ever see an Illustrious type fine-tune on Qwen because it is just too big and expensive, but it should be doable with Chroma, and probably people would be happy with the results.

Both models can coexist.

>>106308387
>coexist
erm excuse me, we don't do that around here

>>106308073
protecting you from evil IRL women is the only health benefit of AI.

>>106308062
both chroma AND qwen fail to render a guy with imbalanced muscles like this.

>>106308359
it's way worse. the porn site owners (you know what ethnicity they are) are going to go all in on AI waifus and a prompt suggestion algorithm. their algorithm will generate custom prompts tailored to users history. they can then insert subliminal messaging, political agendas, advertisements, etc directly into the custom porn scenes. this will all be in VR btw.

not only will it destroy fertility (women will be just as addicted), but it will create an army of mind-controlled coomers with cyberpsychosis. these willing slaves will destroy humanity.

Time to produce: 1.1 hrs

Wan 2.2 is so fucking good for cartoony art styles and anime now, holy

>>106308432
I like the chair from the set of a SAW movie, nice touch kek

>>106308452
Looks like time wasted

>>106308387
>4 - Qwen with good loras should stomp Chroma both base and with loras.
Nah, there won't be a lora to fix the hugely slopped default nor lack of seed variation.

>>106308469
flux was the same, but it takes a ton of training to break it which I doubt anyone will drop that kind dime for. Training wan instead would be so much better

>>106308468
You act like I was at the computer when it was made

>>106308479
nta, but I think they're implying you could have gotten a much better result in much less time.

>>106308469
Some photorealism loras work fine, but yeah, sometimes the slopped outputs sneak in especially if you prompt for something out of the distribution of the Lora

>>106308488
art is not a speed race.

>>106308492
AI art is not art.

>remove low quality images
>make better text prompt
>add more high quality images
what else can I do if the lora I trained is not good enough?

>>106308492
These generals have a funny way of using that word

>>106308506
use a better model

>>106308507
>These generals have a funny way of using that word
"speed" or "race" ?

>>106308506
train for more epoch

>>106308432
but holy fuck check out the DETAILS on this computer and keyboard especially. this is at 8 steps. I have never genned a keyboard this clean before.

>>106308479
>>106308452
>>106308492
you could have produced loli for us

>>106308387
Has a good Qwen lora done anything about same face and same gens though?

>>106307254
>>106306986
>>106306792
>>106306747

These are all same prompt on Chroma Flash. I can run this all day and get a bunch of kino variations. I doubt you can do anything like this with Qwen.

>>106308506
>>make better text prompt
If by "better" you mean "longer", I must tell you that you may have made a mistake.

Also, depending on the model and the amount of images, you may consider increasing the rank from 16 to something else (greater)

My GPU makes a weird sound when it's done inpainting or upscaling. I think it's coming from the fans. The sound reminds me of an old harddrive squeak. Should I be worried?

>>106308523
I admit, for your usecase, chroma has officially won already. until there's a major new model.

>>106308519
model?

>>106308541
Chroma 48

>>106308532
Some gpus have pretty noticeable coil whine, don’t think it’s a bad thing necessarily in that something is wrong with it.

>>106308523
>Has a good Qwen lora done anything about same face and same gens though?
I did get different faces with different seeds. But can even steer further changes if you change race or nationality (like "young russian woman", "young italian woman" etc)

>>106308532
record it

>>106308519
It almost got the qwerty layout right. Quite impressive.

the chroma nunchaku quant that guy put up on HF is crazy

I love how people say that loras will save Chroma or Qwen image.

Let me give it to you straight anons. It's all cope. They are both too expensive to train and out of reach for anyone that doesn't have access to $500K+ worth of gpus.

Until someone releases a model with the same approach of SD1.5 but with modern tech and captions, you're stuck with whatever popular model we have right now and Wan as a refiner.

>>106308541
it's qwen. that one was 8 steps with the 8 step lora at 1 cfg. this one is 20 steps undistilled at 5 cfg. same seed. qwen has some insane detail, the background environments and inanimate objects it generates are so solid.

>>106308285
>pth

im so lonely bros

>>106308577
Huh, so do they like, sprout more tails at puberty or something? Now I’m curious

>>106308585
Every partner they have spouts a new tail.

>>106308585
She fucked a human man, the daughter is mixed

>>106308594
>>106308594
>>106308594
>>106308594

>>106308569
Our only hope for salvation is Chroma. It's near done, an experiment shows that not all hope is lost for it. You'd have to be crazy to think that anyone will touch a 20B censored base model. It doesn't matter how good it is. It could be 4o tier for all we know. The main cap is the size.

>>106308554
I don't think it's coil whine. It's a short sound.

>>106308557
>try recording it
>it doesn't do the sound

>>106308500
Yet my title is artist

>>106308641
during some parts of the ai inference processes the gpu is doing different types of calculations that require different parts of it and/or are compute bound, maxing it out for a couple of seconds, all of which can produce some unique whine sounds if you have an open case or the gpu points to your your ears

>>106305902
>making garbage models for western normies.
no he's making garbage models for his investors and their politics. the end user doesn't even enter into the equation here.

>>106306182
They look like spider monkeys.

>>106306622
I see - so just the base workflow is recommended. Any thoughts about the following, I've seen them discussed around here:

* Hyper-FLUX.1-dev-16steps lora?
* Any sort of upscaler? (I've seen basic integrated hires fix and then completely dedicated upscaling workflows)
* Anything else of note?