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Anonymous No.106332141 >>106337969 >>106342231 >>106345087
/iemg/ & /pmpg/ - In-Ear Monitor & Portable Music Player General
How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide

>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/

>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18
• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20
• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35
• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28
• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8
• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18
• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38
• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120
• Tempotec Variations V1 - $130
• HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

Previous Thread: >>106312727
Anonymous No.106332150
remember to use EQ ~!
~| ^v^ |~
Anonymous No.106332162 >>106332402
>every pos needs eq
cope.
Anonymous No.106332169 >>106332238
Bnuuy, Fission, Origin.
All you really need.
Anonymous No.106332214
op is a faggot
Anonymous No.106332233 >>106332237 >>106336696
q1 pro is so comfy, sounds like shit tho
time to look into eq, i dont think ill find something that fits so nicely again
Anonymous No.106332237 >>106332324
>>106332233
eq cant fix it, sucks too bad
Jim No.106332238
>>106332169
Need off the charts extension.
The Return of the Queen.
Tanchjim Kara Pro.
Soon(tm).
Anonymous No.106332324 >>106332328
>>106332237
just added a fat bass shelf and reduced the shout, already sounding very good
Anonymous No.106332328 >>106332340 >>106332466
>>106332324
deaf
Anonymous No.106332340 >>106332341
>>106332328
jealous
Anonymous No.106332341
>>106332340
nah
Anonymous No.106332402
>>106332162
Deaf.
Anonymous No.106332466 >>106332509 >>106332559
>>106332328
Deaf what? What exactly do you think sounds bad when you add bass and reduce shout?
Anonymous No.106332495 >>106332525 >>106332538
whats a neutral set that's gonna impress a speakerchad
i have se215s now
Anonymous No.106332509 >>106332764
>>106332466
epz always sounds bad
Anonymous No.106332525 >>106332538 >>106332582
>>106332495
before we impress you, what do you think of the se215s?
Anonymous No.106332538 >>106332582
>>106332495
>>106332525
oh and what speakers do you have? bonus points if you have measured them at the listening position
Anonymous No.106332559 >>106332630 >>106336618
>>106332466
He has no IEMs and doesn't know what EQs, he's just here to find a trans girlfriend.
Anonymous No.106332582 >>106332616 >>106332834
>>106332525
tone is about right with oratory eq but vocals are either too hollow or too muddy.
do iem fags use crossfeed for sound stage?
>>106332538
nearfield kef q100s with room eq to harman
Anonymous No.106332616
>>106332582
oratory eq to harmanIE? a bit concerning to hear that vocals are either hollow or muddy
>do iem fags use crossfeed for sound stage?
for proper sound stage aka sound localization? no, you need a lot more. can be useful for hard panned tracks tho
>nearfield kef q100s with room eq to harman
ok that's decent, better than most

i say try out eq and different targets. se215s is pretty much at the top of iem comfort, but unit variation might be a problem here
you can read the eq guide in the op, and i recommend you check on amazon for different iems in the op and shopping guide so you can get a feel for the fit of modern iems and their sound (the se215 is not great by modern standard)
Anonymous No.106332630 >>106332635
>>106332559
Nobody even mentioned trans people?
Anonymous No.106332635 >>106332641
>>106332630
oh he will lol, just mention eq, guidezo, science, and epz
Anonymous No.106332641 >>106332645
>>106332635
What exactly do trans people have to with audio? To bring them up out of nowhere is quite odd.
Anonymous No.106332645 >>106332650
>>106332641
he's searching for a trans gf duh
Anonymous No.106332650 >>106332674
>>106332645
and you know that how exactly?
Anonymous No.106332674 >>106332680
>>106332650
considering he's so obsessed to the point of coming back after being banned for constantly talking about trannies, one can only conclude that anon is desperately searching for a trans person to accompany him through his life
Anonymous No.106332680 >>106332694
>>106332674
Just looking through Amazon reviews shows that can't be true. Where are you pulling your information?
Anonymous No.106332694 >>106332796
>>106332680
search for the terms "tranny" "troon" "gender" in the archives
all of those posts? one anon searching for his forever partner
Anonymous No.106332764
>>106332509
retard
Anonymous No.106332796 >>106332848
>>106332694
all i see are your posts, uh oh
Anonymous No.106332834
>>106332582
>vocals are either too hollow or too muddy.
Try increasing 300Hz and decreasing 100Hz.
Anonymous No.106332848 >>106332850 >>106335437
>>106332796
Uh oh >>106325644
Anonymous No.106332850 >>106332861
>>106332848
i dont get it
Anonymous No.106332861 >>106332863 >>106335437
>>106332850
Uh oh, stinky >>106326871
Anonymous No.106332863
>>106332861
why are you linking random posts?? are you ok?
Anonymous No.106332879
>shortwide tips
did he actually measure it with coffee tips lol?
Anonymous No.106332898 >>106332930
>asks a question
>gets an answer
>I never asked that question, baka
What is this mental illness called.
Anonymous No.106332903
who are you quoting?
Anonymous No.106332908
>>106332119
Anonymous No.106332910
melty
Anonymous No.106332930
>>106332898
they're a (tsun)^2 dere chaser, let them live and yearn for the trans!
Anonymous No.106332978 >>106332985 >>106332990 >>106333030
iemg, more like samefag central amirite?
Anonymous No.106332985
>>106332978
All me btw.
Anonymous No.106332990
>>106332978
every post a self report
Anonymous No.106333022 >>106333049 >>106333063 >>106336065 >>106352221
it's bunny day in japan
(You) ARE listening with the bnnuys right now, right anon?
Anonymous No.106333030 >>106333084
>>106332978
actual janny or glowie stirring the pot in order to keep the iem secret cabal running
IYKYK
Anonymous No.106333049 >>106333063 >>106336065
>>106333022
I'm listening to the ****** right now, and if you're a fan of the Bunny, I feel like you'll really love this one!
Anonymous No.106333063
>>106333022
>>106333049
I'm listening to cat bunny.
Anonymous No.106333084 >>106333094 >>106333108 >>106333184
>>106333030
bestiality cabal:
foxzo
pedozo
dogfuckerzo
guidezo
techschud cabal:
simzo
frogzo
polzo
poorfag cabal:
ratzo
deafzo
pagzo
tranny cabal:
troonzo/taintzo
jimmyzo
raider cabal:
shartur
nggar
headpos.com baldies
cringicle
Anonymous No.106333094
>>106333084
chat is this real?
BASEDGM
Anonymous No.106333108 >>106333184
>>106333084
I am all of these except sharur, ew.
Anonymous No.106333184 >>106333241
>>106333084
im literally all of them except shartur
including him/me >>106333108
anyways remember to read the eq dogma driver tech isabelle music mixer phase peqdb tranny kz jew bunny queen headpos jm1 harman ball tuck third world fox pos guide
Anonymous No.106333241 >>106333275 >>106333446
>>106333184
Endgame.
Anonymous No.106333275
>>106333241
Niggalink
Anonymous No.106333276
make space ear dildo wearers, time for real schizos to talk
Anonymous No.106333446
>>106333241
kek
Anonymous No.106334956
Anonymous No.106335437
>>106332848
>>106332861
those aren't the same two anons. rent free
Anonymous No.106335682
Just ordered the Aful Explorer
Anonymous No.106336065
>>106333022
>>106333049

You know what? Maybe Resolve has a point about cartoon children
Anonymous No.106336253 >>106337028 >>106338076
japs using foam as tuning filters instead of unreplacable filters that clog
when will chinks learn?
Anonymous No.106336618
>>106332559
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A BUSSY TIMMY THAT'S A MAN'S ASS anyway time to check aliexpress
Anonymous No.106336696 >>106336770
>>106332233
>sounds like shit tho
It sure does.
Fox troon throws a melty if it gets removed from the OP though.
Anonymous No.106336726 >>106336760 >>106336804
Chat, is this worth $1.50?
Anonymous No.106336760
>>106336726
>2pin qdc
eh... just save a bit and go with the edc pro
Anonymous No.106336770 >>106336786
>>106336696
Everything sounds like shit without EQ.
Anonymous No.106336786 >>106336797
>>106336770
Skill issue
Anonymous No.106336797 >>106336924 >>106336986 >>106356458
>>106336786
Liking something without EQ is a skill issue.
Anonymous No.106336804 >>106336841
>>106336726
When did this place turn fully into /csg/?
It was always filled with poorpags talking about how their $20 pos is endgame
Now we have multiple retards per thread bragging about buying IEMs worth a few quarters.
And it's always KZ garbage too, every time.
Anonymous No.106336841
>>106336804
>When did this place turn fully into /csg/?
/iemg/ is /csg/ and /csg/ is /iemg/
Anonymous No.106336924
>>106336797
>EQope
Anonymous No.106336961
reminder to read the eq guide myths and misconceptions
techtards BTFO
Anonymous No.106336986
>>106336797
>he doesn't EQ per-song to perfection, making each track sound ideal to personal preferences
goml
Anonymous No.106337028 >>106337040 >>106337323
>>106336253
Yeah tuning foam is bretty gud. When the filters in my G10 clogged, I replaced it with foam and used a coupler to ensure both channels were close to indentical. Pretty dark but a slight lift (10000hz, hsf, +3db) helps.
Anonymous No.106337040
>>106337028
>explorer at home
Anonymous No.106337323 >>106337431 >>106337583
>>106337028
lol not only are they tuned like shit they also clog? embarassing
Anonymous No.106337431 >>106337717
>>106337323
any pos is prone to clog, the thing is most people don't have a coupler to check for imbalance or care about it
Anonymous No.106337583 >>106337633
>>106337323
If it has a filter it's gonna clog, man. You can't be this stupid, but then again, you hate learning anything about iems or audio in general.
Anonymous No.106337633 >>106337863
>>106337583
you love putting people down and pretending everyone is dumber than you.
cope harder
Anonymous No.106337638 >>106338149
Which IEM and EQ would you recommend for this genre and song? Also post your favorite tracks for tuning.

https://litter.catbox.moe/wvw9gw.flac
Anonymous No.106337717 >>106337741
>>106337431
>every iem clogs
>chu 2 is bad because it clogs
well which is it? seems like chuzo did nothing wrong after all
Anonymous No.106337720
Has anyone measured how the final audio type e black tips compare to stock (with tape mod) on Sennheiser ie200?
Anonymous No.106337741 >>106337769
>>106337717
why do all of you retards have no sense of nuance?
chu 2 is very bad because it is made of metal and it's filter is easily contaminated, for every g10 that clogs you'll find 100 clogged chu 2
Anonymous No.106337769 >>106337792
>>106337741
so in other words its bad when chu 2 clogs but normal when g10 clogs
fascinating
Anonymous No.106337792 >>106337806
>>106337769
figured you were illiterate
Anonymous No.106337806
>>106337792
i accept your concession
Anonymous No.106337863 >>106337949
>>106337633
Who's coping? I found a solution that allows me to use my g10s even after the original filters had clogged. What would I have to cope about?
Anonymous No.106337949 >>106338282
>>106337863
>you hate learning anything about iems or audio in general
you're coping. you're not even capable of speaking to people without being an emotional twat and derailing all possible attempts at a normal conversation. you're the problem. go ahead, bait everyone into shit flinging as usual
Anonymous No.106337969 >>106338041
>>106332141 (OP)
Hexa vs Pure?
Pure seems a bit warmer so I may like it more, but what are your opinions on it?
Anonymous No.106337992 >>106338043 >>106338045
>you're not even capable of speaking to people without being an emotional twat and derailing all possible attempts at a normal conversation
>*calls everyone he disagrees with trannies*
Anonymous No.106338041
>>106337969
also I have the Gate and I really like it, that's why I wanted to go with a Truthear again
Anonymous No.106338043
>>106337992
the only real trannies here are foxbum, troonzo and jimmyzo, all other posters are simply femboys or pre-transition eggs
Anonymous No.106338045
>>106337992
I'm not the one doing what you just claimed. so you're wrong, dipshit
Anonymous No.106338076 >>106338094
>>106336253
EA500LM does use foams
Anonymous No.106338094
>>106338076
simgot is simgoat, of course
total simzo victory
Anonymous No.106338149
>>106337638
Openaudio witch pro
Anonymous No.106338282 >>106338510 >>106340637
>>106337949
I don't know what you're talking about, honest. If you'd like to provide an example that would be helpful. If you feel that my comment was being too mean to you, I'm sorry, but you yourself haven't been entirely nice either.
Anonymous No.106338416 >>106338509
reminder that if you want to learn without have snarky bitches telling you you're dumb, just read the eq guide
Anonymous No.106338467
Erm but I thought the EQ guide was nothing but drivel
Anonymous No.106338509
>>106338416
nobody has ever read the eq guide
Anonymous No.106338510
>>106338282
you still don't know who I am.
Anonymous No.106338547 >>106338735
>you still don't know who I am.
Anonymous No.106338735 >>106338749
>>106338547
one too many faggots in here depending on samefagging to fake momentum and validation
Anonymous No.106338749 >>106338827
>>106338735
>too many faggots
it's all one samefagzo (including you)
Anonymous No.106338750 >>106338779 >>106338966 >>106340324 >>106341075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvgjyhLByHo
>Letshuoer EJ10
2DD+4BA+4EST
nice. hope i can listen to it soon
Anonymous No.106338779
>>106338750
>est
Anonymous No.106338827 >>106338851
>>106338749
wrong, again.
Anonymous No.106338851 >>106338857
>>106338827
whatever you say samefagging tard
Anonymous No.106338857 >>106338869
>>106338851
ok literal schitzo, reply to the last ten posts you think are by me and I'll show you.
Anonymous No.106338869 >>106338904
>>106338857
the last ten posts not by me = you
>inb4 pic
retard
Anonymous No.106338904
>>106338869
>giving up immediately when being called out
your weakness is your own bullshit. but I'm not here to give you a therapy session. it's funny, how pic related reminds me of a certain other graph. ;)
Anonymous No.106338944 >>106339700
>inb4 "I accept your concession"
Anonymous No.106338966
>>106338750
>7Hz Dioko 2
WOW tinnitus follow up
Anonymous No.106339070 >>106339103 >>106339249
…did 7hz just win?
Anonymous No.106339103
>>106339070
jaytiss said the treble sucks, ranks it a step below bunny.
so as always, tanchjim wins.
Anonymous No.106339249
>>106339070
Does it have the SLAM and AUTHORITY(tm) as the Variations?
Anonymous No.106339700 >>106340244
>>106338944
i accept your concession
Anonymous No.106340244 >>106340474
>>106339700
I accept your concession.
Anonymous No.106340324
>>106338750
>S12 Ultra
probably my next buy
Anonymous No.106340474
>>106340244
i concept your accession
Anonymous No.106340637 >>106341310
>>106338282
I love you
Anonymous No.106341075
>>106338750
SUPERMIX 5? LETSGOOO
Anonymous No.106341310
>>106340637
Wut? Why?
Anonymous No.106341402 >>106341671
the homoerotic sexual tension in this thread is off the charts
Anonymous No.106341671
>>106341402
its not homosexual if we're all trans
Anonymous No.106341797 >>106341891
Anonymous No.106341816 >>106341891
Anonymous No.106341891 >>106343209
>>106341797
>>106341816
does R2R thing change the sound of IEMs? or it's transparent like the rest of them
Anonymous No.106342034 >>106342050 >>106342136
>AVOID USING:
>Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos
Why?
Anonymous No.106342050 >>106342209 >>106342232
>>106342034
significant output impedance. alters frequency response.
Anonymous No.106342125
>>10634203
even high-end mobos have OI higher than 50 ohms and picrel happens
Anonymous No.106342136 >>106342143 >>106342232
>>106342034
even high-end mobos have OI higher than 50 ohms and picrel happens
Anonymous No.106342143 >>106342192
>>106342136
just wanted to let you know that i saw that
embarassing
Anonymous No.106342179 >>106342246
I think I have finished my collection. I have nothing left to buy, all of my niche uses and wants have been fulfilled.
There is nothing at the end.
Anonymous No.106342192
>>106342143
i knew you'd say that
uninstall that addon you freak
Anonymous No.106342209 >>106342232 >>106342234
>>106342050
Doesn't that just result in a slight bass increase?
Anonymous No.106342231 >>106342325 >>106342382 >>106352737
>>106332141 (OP)
Are there any good earbuds for using in bed when attempting to sleep? Sound quality doesn't need to be exceptional or anything, comfort is by far the most important aspect. Budget of around $120.
Anonymous No.106342232
>>106342050
>>106342136
Sorry I should've refreshed before posting >>106342209
Anonymous No.106342234
>>106342209
no. it in different for all multi-drivers. may make them brighter (ex. hexa). may completely alter shape (ex. audiosense dt600).
it is unpredictable.
Anonymous No.106342242 >>106342251 >>106342258
>Love how IEMs sound
>Ear canals hurt after 15 minutes even with the smallest tips
how do I stop this
Anonymous No.106342246
>>106342179
you need the Sony Inzone E9 for the jap-fi techs and gaming use case
Anonymous No.106342251 >>106342275
>>106342242
post pos and tips
Anonymous No.106342258 >>106342275
>>106342242
Stopped happening to me after about a month
Anonymous No.106342275 >>106342289 >>106342301 >>106342314
>>106342251
Moondrop Aria, just the regular tips that came with it, the bigger ones hurt like hell so I just switched to the smallest ones but instead of making it hurt immediately, it just takes a while.

>>106342258
so I just keep using them until it stops? That sounds kind of crazy
Anonymous No.106342289
>>106342275
Literally yes, it was painful. Now I wear them 8 hours a day with zero fatigue.
Anonymous No.106342301
>>106342275
aria are heavy cast metal shells ~3x heavier than plastic shells, with minimal contouring to accommodate ear shape.
in other words, not designed that well for fit and comfort.
Anonymous No.106342314
>>106342275
It's called dilation sweetie.
Anonymous No.106342321 >>106342647 >>106344803
what's the point of cringy having 200 pos with that tuning
Anonymous No.106342325 >>106342346
>>106342231
I just go with some dollar stores cheapies cause I end up breaking them in my sleep after 1-3 months.
Anonymous No.106342346 >>106342382
>>106342325
Those tend to not be comfortable though, at least for me. Especially if one ear is on the pillow.
Anonymous No.106342382
>>106342231
>>106342346
tinhifi t1s, artti r2, knockoff shure se / sennheiser ie shells from aliexpress (may be wildly bad sound).
Anonymous No.106342589 >>106342605
Anonymous No.106342605 >>106342620
>>106342589
Where is fiio haterzo? He needs to see this.
Anonymous No.106342620
>>106342605
you are haterzo, samefagzo
Anonymous No.106342647 >>106342656
>>106342321
on one hand
on the other they will sound different to the end user anyway so why not.
when will he tackle techs tho and create a soundstage and imaging monster
Anonymous No.106342656 >>106342680
>>106342647
you'll have to wait for his multi kilobuck pos with advanced alien tech (ear worms + espresso tips)
Anonymous No.106342680 >>106342735
>>106342656
I would unironically trust crin more with techs and tuning than some retarded uneducated chink engineer with 711 clone coupler
Anonymous No.106342735 >>106343077
>>106342680
well at this point we've already maxxed out the tuning possibilities so we'll maybe start seeing a trickle down effect
i just cannot think of a single possible avenue for passive iems to have consistent techs. you need at the minimum to know the response in-situ
Anonymous No.106342847 >>106342879 >>106343385
Anonymous No.106342879
>>106342847
nobody gives a flying shit
post when it's live so we can shit on it
Anonymous No.106343077 >>106343106
>>106342735
for sure there's a higher chance of crin using new research and data than of chinese iem makers
Anonymous No.106343106 >>106343239
>>106343077
but the issue is that even these iem makers are already doing excellent tuning based on research and data
nicehck has somehow managed to make something very good with the rockies
Anonymous No.106343174 >>106343240
I peered too far into the phase of my music.
The lines and swirls of frequencies are now etched into my vision.
I can now see sound.
Anonymous No.106343209 >>106343251
>>106341891
It just boosts midrange and soundstage.
Anonymous No.106343239 >>106343278
>>106343106
they are still tuning to harman 2019 in 2025 lol
>nicehck has somehow managed to make something very good with the rockies
>$500
insanity lmao
Anonymous No.106343240
>>106343174
You're a VERY silly boy! VERY silly! :3
Anonymous No.106343251 >>106343286
>>106343209
>soundstage
sure it does
Anonymous No.106343278
>>106343239
most are, but a lot are starting to shift to new meta
the thing with the rockies is not the price, but rather the fact that manufacturers, even historically bad ones, are starting to employ the new meta without the need for collabs
Anonymous No.106343286 >>106344932
>>106343251
The two usually goes together.
Anonymous No.106343385
>>106342847
not a good look
Anonymous No.106343410 >>106343801
What do the tranny lines mean?
Anonymous No.106343801 >>106343816
>>106343410
it meams indians smell like shit
Anonymous No.106343816
>>106343801
I'm not Indian but I literally don't give a fuck about frequency response as long as it isn't Vslop or harmanslop
Anonymous No.106344159
>sussy baka pretends to not care about the answer again
Anonymous No.106344498 >>106344626 >>106344844 >>106348442
I got another $10 voucher, what pagpag do I buy?
Anonymous No.106344626 >>106344999 >>106348340
>>106344498
Anonymous No.106344803
>>106342321
there's no "that tuning", it's the most subtle of differences that make both techs and perceived change in tonality
FR is everything, probably, but absolutely not in the way of looking on the overall shape of the graph and saying
>oh, it's 200th pos with the same tuning so it'll sound the same
it will not, period, end of story
Anonymous No.106344844 >>106344850
>>106344498
Qkz x hbb, endgame
Anonymous No.106344850 >>106344864
>>106344844
go away nggar
Anonymous No.106344864
>>106344850
Phoneposting is hard....
Anonymous No.106344932
>>106343286
nope
Anonymous No.106344999 >>106345043 >>106346140
>>106344626
I never heard of CVJ
graph?
Anonymous No.106345043 >>106345055 >>106346140
>>106344999
Doesn't exist yet, new release. Don't be a pussy now.
Anonymous No.106345055 >>106345059
>>106345043
NTA but I'm not scared, I'm just broke
Anonymous No.106345059 >>106345083
>>106345055
Didn't you just buy a bunch of random pagslop?
Anonymous No.106345064 >>106345070 >>106345124 >>106345256
what does pag mean?
Anonymous No.106345070
>>106345064
portable audio gizmo
Anonymous No.106345083
>>106345059
No I'm the anon from earlier who has virgin baby bitch ear canals
Anonymous No.106345087
>>106332141 (OP)
Anonymous No.106345124
>>106345064
Any IEM without an anime girl on the box.
Anonymous No.106345256
>>106345064
Precise Audiophile Gear
Anonymous No.106345265 >>106345294
If you don't have planar mag drivers why are you bothering with IEMs?
Anonymous No.106345294
>>106345265
tune your planar to flat and see how it handles it.
Anonymous No.106346140 >>106348137
>>106344999
>>106345043
CVJ has never released a good iem
Anonymous No.106346725 >>106346797 >>106346988 >>106347523
Big news!
The TANCHJIM App is finally live on Google Play!
Anonymous No.106346797 >>106347523
>>106346725
>feet inspection throne is real
Anonymous No.106346833
convince me not to grab a Kefine Klean™
Anonymous No.106346839 >>106347169 >>106347580
I'm annoyed at the lack of decent cheap Bluetooth dongles.

I'm looking for something that:
-is cheap
-has a clip
-has decent codecs (aptX/LDAC)
-can function as a USB DAC when the batts die

I want it with Bluetooth since the idea is to be able to listen to music from my phone when I can't keep it in my pocket, but also something that won't become e-waste once the batts die so USB DAC mode for the second wind. Doesn't have to have a PEQ cuz I can do that on the player side, nor do I need it to be some spec sheet destroyer since it's gonna be for music listening, not hardware listening. It just has to have a clean sound with no hiss or buzz or whatever. I don't need fancy apps, balanced outputs or a premium finish. As long as the electronics work well enough.

The HiBy W3 II is a close candidate, even if the USB DAC is locked to 16-bit/48kHz. FiiO BTR11 would be perfect for the budget, but it lacks the USB DAC altogether. The Snowsky Retro Nano doesn't have the clip and getting a case for it would be more expensive than getting some higher tier DAC.

Should I just pull the trigger on the W3 II or is there a better pick for this kind of use case in this price range?
Anonymous No.106346880 >>106347051 >>106347851
thoughts?
Anonymous No.106346988
>>106346725
I will never ever recover from this
Anonymous No.106347051 >>106347221
>>106346880
generic release
boring
Anonymous No.106347169 >>106347214
>>106346839
what's even the point of having bluetooth AND having a wire?
Anonymous No.106347214 >>106347251
>>106347169
The point is that I won't have my phone falling out of my pocket and yanking out the cable while exercising. I know what I want and I'm asking a straightforward question. I'm not asking for my mind on what to buy to be changed. If you're looking to do the latter then don't bother replying.
Anonymous No.106347221 >>106347420
>>106347051
>proprietary driver
>generic
it's a budget DX1. seems intentional to me
Anonymous No.106347251
>>106347214
calm your tits, I asked a general question
Anonymous No.106347420 >>106347548
>>106347221
>proprietary driver
that doesn't mean anything and the pos is ugly as hell
Anonymous No.106347523
>>106346725
>>106346797
Anonymous No.106347548 >>106347623
>>106347420
surely somebody thinks it sounds good and is pretty
Anonymous No.106347580 >>106347601
>>106346839
wuts wrong with a btr11?
Anonymous No.106347601
>>106347580
The lack of USB DAC mode. Like I said, don't want it to end up useless once it can't hold a charge, but I guess for the price it doesn't matter all that much.
Anonymous No.106347611 >>106347839 >>106348878
What's significantly better than chu 2 for the same price or not very high?
Anonymous No.106347623
>>106347548
Nta but it is really is fuck ugly. The weird thing is Letshuoer has made some nice looking pos before.
Anonymous No.106347839
>>106347611
http://www.jeroenbreebaart.com/papers/jasa/jasa2017.pdf
https://www.soundguys.com/no-relationship-between-price-and-sound-quality-139284/
If you want to buy new shit, feel free to, but you only sink further down a rabbit hole with no guarantee of finding what you want in your next purchase. You have provided zero criteria from which anyone can assist you with what you may perceive as a better product. Use the OP request advice form at the very least.
Anonymous No.106347851
>>106346880
retarded shell design letshuoer hasn't given up on yet and idk why. many people (including myself) complain it doesn't fit and seal.
Anonymous No.106347992 >>106348013 >>106348405
Are there premium-ish flatheads that isnt shit? Everything on the list is around $20.
Anonymous No.106348013
>>106347992
flatheads are an inherently shit form factor. genuinely a filter (in the bad way) for retarded audiofools to overspend on shit products.
anyways: dunu alpha 3, various fiios, aful polarnight, etc.
Anonymous No.106348137
>>106346140
I just bought a CVJ, guess I will kill myself
Anonymous No.106348340 >>106348550 >>106348591
>>106344626
I don't believe them anymore
they used different arts for promo and actual prints which looks way worse
Anonymous No.106348405 >>106348443 >>106348560
>>106347992
Yes.
The person who runs the shopping guide doesn't seem to like flatheads I'm guessing, or even try any of the ones that aren't dirt cheap.

Flathead form factor is inherently flawed, but I enjoy them for casual listening in bed.

Look at Yincrow, their RW series is quite nice. Aful Polarnight is also pretty decent. Nicehck EBX25Ti is also really nice if you want excellent clarity from vocals and don't care too much about bass. They're about to release some new limited edition version of it with Hideo Kojima of all people. Pretty wild collab.
TGXEar, LREY and Flathead Audio are three DIYers that sell more premium earbuds. TGXEar has a site you can buy from and Flathead Audio sells on aliexpress. I'm not even sure how to buy from LREY I've just heard about him. Venture Electronics is another brand name that makes some higher priced buds but I think they're worth a skip personally. Their pack of foams are good though.
Anonymous No.106348442 >>106348496
>>106344498
Pagpag achieved.
Anonymous No.106348443 >>106348478
>>106348405
you're way more useful than the anon who maintains the shopping guide. he dismisses everything people recommend if he didn't come up with it first and he has no actual experience with anything he shits on.
Anonymous No.106348478 >>106348527
>>106348443
Are there any lists, review sites etc that are more comprehensive?
Anonymous No.106348496 >>106348536
>>106348442
had the PR2, damn that shit was so ass.
Anonymous No.106348527 >>106348564
>>106348478
https://www.iemranking.com/
this site gives good insight and comparisons.
I wouldn't rely on mainstream review sites or reviewers' lists. yes, reviewers have a different perspective on the market as a whole because they review cheap and totl alike, but that doesn't mean they aren't immune to bias or hype, either.
Anonymous No.106348536 >>106348544
>>106348496
could remove the dampening and EQ it
Anonymous No.106348544 >>106348559
>>106348536
I just gave it to a friend and he still uses it to this date...
Anonymous No.106348550
>>106348340
damn, even the animebros are getting scammed. tough market
Anonymous No.106348559 >>106348568
>>106348544
get yourself a new one for 8 dollars then
Anonymous No.106348560 >>106349774
Person from >>106348405 here. If you're looking for a good source for flatheads:
Most of the info I trust regarding flatheads that I don't own (although I own all the flatheads I mentioned above) comes from lurking the Flathead Sanctuary >dicksword group - https://nymzreviews.wordpress.com/flathead-sanctuary

I don't take everything that people in there say as gospel or agree with all their recommendations but they're pretty good for news of upcoming flatheads or impressions that you know aren't coming from a retarded shill career reviewer or some AI generated forum post on head-fi.

Discord sucks, but all I do is lurk so it's whatever. Also a good place to find deals on used flatheads.
Anonymous No.106348564 >>106348648
>>106348527
What about stuff like dongles, tips and cables? I'm still wondering if I should be looking for something other than the HiBy W3 II.
Anonymous No.106348568 >>106348609
>>106348559
I don't need to buy any new IEMs, I got an ER2SE a year ago and I've been happy since.
Anonymous No.106348591 >>106348909
>>106348340
The art is the same, it just looks like shit because they decided to emboss the metal before applying yhe art.
Anonymous No.106348609 >>106348615 >>106348718 >>106358331
>>106348568
More pagslop for me then
Anonymous No.106348615
>>106348609
enjoy your shinies anon :)
Anonymous No.106348648 >>106348681
>>106348564
your W3 II is fine, so don't worry about needing to upgrade from that anytime soon, but tips and cables really only depend on preference. tips vary in comfort and how they alter sound, so you have to be specific with what you're aiming for. aftermarket cables are always an upgrade from stock, so find something visually appealing or matching since expensive cables are snake oil. try 4.4mm balanced cables if you want to get froggy.
Anonymous No.106348681 >>106348744
>>106348648
No I mean that I'm still considering buying it, but maybe there's a better option. Guess I'll just bite the bullet and get the W3 II once I get the piggybank bonus. As for the cables, I only have two that came with my IEM's: the stock Chu 2 cable and the stock Q1 Pro mic cable. I like the mic for the inline controls, but it would be good to have a spare that's standard. Any other brands to look at outside the ones mentioned in the consoomer guide?
Anonymous No.106348718
>>106348609
>hm why does this sound suspiciously like edx lite
t. me in 2 weeks
Anonymous No.106348744 >>106348778
>>106348681
sorry I didn't thoroughly read though your posts. the W3 II has good features but it only supports audio up to 16-bit/48kHz and 3.5mm output. limited, but worth it for $40
outside the consumer guide, those brands are fine. I go with tripowin and kbear, but it's entirely up to you and any aftermarket cable will be better than stock.
Anonymous No.106348778 >>106348830
>>106348744
The limit seems to be on the wired output, but I guess for this price as a second life function once the battery dies it's good enough. Still better than the FiiO BTR11 that'll become a paperweight once it can't hold any juice. Also, if the HiBy supports the inline controls then it'll be perfect for my use case.
Anonymous No.106348830
>>106348778
>if the HiBy supports the inline controls
they didn't specify, but it does have a built-in mic, which I'm sure comes in handy.
Anonymous No.106348878
>>106347611
EDC Pro
Anonymous No.106348909 >>106348931 >>106348952 >>106349206
>>106348591
Ughhh blindbro, they are not the same, look at the nose and the tie, they are very obviously different even in the way they are drawn
Also the shading, proportions, colors and gradients are different and no this can't be attributed to embossing alone
Anonymous No.106348931
>>106348909
he meant they're artwork of the same exact thing, ya sperg
Anonymous No.106348952
>>106348909
The reason why it looks like shit is the embossing, not the miniscule changes you're talking about (assuming they're even there, I dont see them except the nose line).
Anonymous No.106349206
>>106348909
I think if they did the nose embossment + nose line differently, it wouldn't look so weird.
Anonymous No.106349481 >>106349785
Are there any TWS earbuds that sound like the Yincrow X6?
Anonymous No.106349550 >>106349647 >>106349997
What do you guys think of the newly released Letshuoer D02?
Anonymous No.106349647
>>106349550
SCROLL UP
Anonymous No.106349774
>>106348560
not like there is any other source that isn't just some asian diy storefront on facebook.
Anonymous No.106349785
>>106349481
Nothing with that metallic and fucked up upper mids comes to my mind, sorry
Anonymous No.106349997
>>106349550
graph.
Anonymous No.106350518
>fission $80
>cadenza4 $140
>i3 mk3 $100
FUCK ME I CAN'T CHOOSE
Anonymous No.106350874 >>106350880
>got some new IEM last month
>the right one is now making a constant noise whether audio is playing or not
are they broken? is there a fix?
Anonymous No.106350880
>>106350874
>auto burn in pos
now that's chink innovation
Anonymous No.106351917 >>106352024
>totlzo out
>depthzo gone
is it over for editorzo??
Anonymous No.106352024
>>106351917
my theory of everyone being the same one samefag holds true
editorzo dead = depthzo dead = totlzo dead
all at the same time?
if it were two, then sure it's a lucky coincidence
but 3?
Anonymous No.106352042 >>106352173 >>106352606 >>106352692 >>106352810
Green one is my EQ profile. What kind of sound or IEM should I be looking for? Is this neutral with a mid bass boost?
Anonymous No.106352138
holy shit my sides, so many diamonds in this pos general
Anonymous No.106352173 >>106355434
>>106352042
if you want neutral with midbass boost, do it a proper way
1. choose a correct target - the default JM-1 with bass boost is fine, just add more bass in ~200-300KHz
2. try to match the target as close as you can
3. don't bother EQing upper treble, in FH3 it's so shit it's not even worth it
Anonymous No.106352221
>>106333022
I use bunny;s for when I sleep but I wish they had something good for gaming/asmr type shit
Anonymous No.106352606
>>106352042
>Is this neutral with a mid bass boost?
Do you have eyes? It's all kinds of fucked up is what it is.
In addition to anon's advice, use the Align feature of graph tools. Up to you where to align, ~450Hz is often the lowest point of mids on 5128. 1000Hz is also a common standard to align at
Anonymous No.106352692
>>106352042
>align
normalize* i meant
Anonymous No.106352737
>>106342231
could not imagine wearing earbuds at night
>can't hear smoke alarm/co detector
>die
Anonymous No.106352810
>>106352042
>Is this neutral with a mid bass boost
if it sounds neutral to you then it is neutral
Anonymous No.106354047 >>106354052 >>106354132 >>106358331
>$50
>tuning switch
>lots of drivers
what's the catch
Anonymous No.106354052 >>106354065
>>106354047
sounds like shit
Anonymous No.106354065 >>106354099
>>106354052
sounds amazing for k-pop
Anonymous No.106354099
>>106354065
if you like shouty and shrill 13 dB ear gain female poison pos, then sure
Anonymous No.106354132 >>106354583
>>106354047
6 drivers and that's the tuning they were able to achieve? fucking lol
clown shit
Anonymous No.106354161 >>106354183
why isn't https://nozzledb.com/ in the OP?
Anonymous No.106354166 >>106355438
tyvan was really like
>yeah ooopusX op.24 is a good name
Anonymous No.106354183 >>106354205
>>106354161
because nozzle size isn't as important as some think, and it'll mislead more than help for newbies
not to mention that most anons asking for advice should not (and do not) consider nozzle size
Anonymous No.106354205 >>106354228 >>106354243
>>106354183
>not useful
>avoid people from buying red
Anonymous No.106354228
>>106354205
for edge cases like the te red it works, but for many others it will vary too much
Anonymous No.106354243
>>106354205
>longest thickiest nozzle
what did they mean by that?
Anonymous No.106354583
>>106354132
Definitely looks like it's exclusively for a chinese audience.
Anonymous No.106355434
>>106352173
Thanks. But comparing mine to JM-1 and it looks like I prefer more pinna gain, similar to Harman. On the other hand I've bought a couple of Harman tuned sets and they've all lacked bass. So maybe it's Harman with a little bit of a midbass boost.

I got my ISN H20 yesterday but they're too warm and lacks that bite/sparkle. Also has too much bass. So maybe Penon isn't for me and I should into something like the Tea Pros or Ziigaat Odyssey?
Anonymous No.106355438
>>106354166
is it a KZ?!
Anonymous No.106355842 >>106355923
What KZ IEMs should I order now during the Ali sale? Let's say $100 budget in total
Anonymous No.106355923 >>106356041
>>106355842
KZ sucks
Anonymous No.106356041
>>106355923
Ling long bing bong
Anonymous No.106356049
aite famalams ngl, shit pretty bussin?
Anonymous No.106356144 >>106356351
Anonymous No.106356201 >>106356287 >>106356575
FR is the least important factor, if even considered to begin with, when recording, mixing and mastering every single second of audio you have ever heard in your entire past, present and all future lives.
Anonymous No.106356287 >>106356342
>>106356201
meds ran out?
Anonymous No.106356342
>>106356287
hello rat
Anonymous No.106356351
>>106356144
*sigh* fucking changs stealth revised them again
Anonymous No.106356357 >>106356362 >>106356442 >>106356492 >>106358331
*sigh* fucking changs stealth revised them again, notice how the left side has a shittier grill
Anonymous No.106356362 >>106356442
>>106356357
Different pic
Anonymous No.106356373 >>106356401 >>106356442
They also have a shittier bigger font, this is a bad omen
Anonymous No.106356401 >>106356442
>>106356373
Peaking inside the iem with a flashlight also reveals a different pcb color on the back of the driver
Anonymous No.106356442 >>106356473
>>106356357
>>106356362
>>106356373
>>106356401
you bought 4 of the same outdated pos to tell us what we already knew...why?
Anonymous No.106356458
>>106336797
lmfao
Anonymous No.106356473 >>106356507
The only one thats original is the one with the red QKZ logo, which i preordered back in the day, all of the new ones are stealth revised.

>>106356442
Dilate tranny
Anonymous No.106356492 >>106356527 >>106356527
>>106356357
expected turn of events
Anonymous No.106356507 >>106356527
>>106356473
I'm just asking a question lol
Anonymous No.106356527 >>106356588 >>106356598 >>106356601 >>106356633
>>106356492
>>106356492
Fuck china, I get /hpg/ now, whats the point of even having a preference if these slant eyed gooks cant keep trying to scam you despite your love for their products

>>106356507
Because I literally have a bunch of iems and the OG qkz sound the best
Anonymous No.106356575
>>106356201
FR is considered when the studio is built and every mic and speaker is designed, manufactured and purchased for that studio. Producers don't know what FR is and it's not their job to know, they aren't building studios.
Anonymous No.106356588
>>106356527
Etymotic don't suffer from this issue.
Anonymous No.106356598 >>106356609
>>106356527
>has oxygen
>doesn't buy olina se for an actually interesting comparison.
>buys 4 $5 pos just to check QC
your collection spells out aimless hype and your dac (as good as it is) doesn't even have volume controls. and you want people to take you seriously..
Anonymous No.106356601
>>106356527
>he thought he could escape EQ
Lmao!
Anonymous No.106356609
>>106356598
This isnt even my full collection, and olina is probably stealth revised too
Anonymous No.106356633 >>106356656
>>106356527
>OG qkz sound the best
just EQ some other POS to it
Anonymous No.106356640 >>106356670 >>106356699
I think theres a very real well poisoning going on with stealth revisions, as I can be convinced my unit is great, and go on to rec it out of honesty, but then its stealth revised and conflicts arise, who knows maybe my wankers are revised and thats why they are dogshit, we will never know.
Anonymous No.106356656 >>106356975
>>106356633
The og qkz had the smoothest yet most extended treble I heard, I cant possibly eq that with such precision, ofc bass can be eq'd easy
Anonymous No.106356670
>>106356640
Sometimes there's no revision, the company is simply shit.
Anonymous No.106356699 >>106356771
>>106356640
wish I could get the og CRA again, sadly I gave them away because I thought I could always just buy another pair.
Anonymous No.106356771
>>106356699
Same, my normie friend was mindblown by CRA so I gave it to him, guess we know better now
Anonymous No.106356975 >>106357039
>>106356656
do the new ones actually sound worse?
Anonymous No.106357039 >>106357955
>>106356975
Its hard to say without a rig, it seems theres more pinna gain than usual, kind of occluding further treble frequencies, the pinna on the og hbb's was very low. But just the fact they are different physically is a dead giveaway.

I also didnt mention but the original ones have a metallic faceplate while all the new ones have something thats lighter and not as cold to the touch as real metal, clearly they cut corners outside and I wont be surprised if they also did with the driver. I guess since I preordered I got "reviewer" unit when it released like two years ago.
Anonymous No.106357955 >>106358078
>>106357039
>hard to say how it sounds without a rig
deaf problems
Anonymous No.106358078 >>106358084
>>106357955
Yet I stated some differences, your doing the troon thing of calling everyone deaf and I'm gonna have to remind you to dilatr
Anonymous No.106358084
>>106358078
Dilate*
Anonymous No.106358106 >>106358143
if you don't measure, how do you know if the silent revision is actually audible?
Anonymous No.106358130 >>106358138
>inzone 9 measures like a headpos
sony japfi kino bros
Anonymous No.106358138 >>106358153
>>106358130
who measured it?
Anonymous No.106358143 >>106358153 >>106358205
>>106358106
Thats what's scary, large enough changes in pinna and bass can be heard, but I couldnt possible spot minute differences on a comparison, since by the time you disconnect and put on another iem you've skewed the test.

But theres no way its gonna sound the same with that new metal grill on the nozzle, even if the driver was the same.
Anonymous No.106358153 >>106358193
>>106358138
soundsguys
>>106358143
the metal grill on most iems is not significant in my experience
Anonymous No.106358193
>>106358153
Well, you could say im already against the newer version, so a personal bias would influence any comparison.

Maybe the rigzo in this thread can get one and masure for us
Anonymous No.106358205 >>106358221 >>106358222 >>106358236
>>106358143
why did you buy a bunch of them just to confirm what everybody knew for years?
Anonymous No.106358221 >>106358236
>>106358205
And providing no value.
Measure them, that's the least you could do
Anonymous No.106358222 >>106358357
>>106358205
Same reason you forgot to dilate today
Anonymous No.106358236 >>106358258 >>106358357
>>106358205
>>106358221
You didnt know shit epz parrots, I at least spotted physical differences, and whatever you are using is inferior to my og qkz x hbb, besides, you will never be a woman
Anonymous No.106358258
>>106358236
I don't even own any epshit...
Anonymous No.106358331
>>106348609
Wtf why would you do that? I'd understand being curious and getting one, but 3?
Why you skipped PR3 though?

>>106354047
Interesting, the design style sorta resembles that one expensive Dunu thing. I don't like switches and the like on my iems though, and I certainly don't want a fuckin' tuning knob or whatever that is.

>>106356357
I'd say that's not a KZ-level of offense yet. If the driver is the same and the tuning filter parameters are the same, the grill itself shouldn't affect the outcome much if it all - it's really just a protection for the filter underneath. Having said that, I have no clue if they've been changed or not.
Anonymous No.106358342
>>106358339
>>106358339
>>106358339
Anonymous No.106358357
>>106358222
>>106358236
ok psycho. you think you're talking to somebody else entirely, which is funny because it's always the epzchuds/trannies acting the way you are right now. so congrats, you're now in the same category.

pic related = 200 of your qkzxhbbs.