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Previous: >>106330781

learn a trade

>faggot unemployed retards are too lazy to create their own general, ep.187265213
>they are still wondering why they don't get hired
lmao

bro my director is pissing me off so much

>in a meeting
>keep getting undermined
>leadership keeps saying wrong shit
>fucking about to sperg out
>trying to remain chill and pretend to be stupid to not undermine my boss
god help me how do I do this.

>>106347881
Quit.

>>106347933
I NEED ONE MORE FUCKING WEEK
THEN MY SAVINGS WILL BE VESTED THEN I CAN FULLY "CAN" MY PERFORMANCE AND GET ME MY GIMMIES

but fuck ive been interviewing and every job sounds the same. "do the work of 5 people but we'll pay you for 0.5 rate of a developer"

>>106347963
I GET IT MY BRAIN IS SAYING FUCK THIS MY HEART IS SAYING WHAT THE FUCK I FUCKING TOLD YOU THIS MOTHERFUCKING SHIT SO MANY TIMES WHY ARE YOU ACTING LIKE THIS IS NEW TO YOU IM FUCKING ABOUT TO LOSE IT. FUCK maybe I'm taking the problem/solution aspect too personally but it's so annoying I see 1+1 = 2. "Hey it's 2." then I see him in meetings going "well, we're not exactly sure what this + symbol is, and what the equal does, how does exactly 1 work? I think this might actually be an 11" and I'm like ITS MOTHER FUCKING 2. ITS FUCKING 2. I FUCKING TOLD YOU ITS TWO. Then they're like "hmm, what if we do 3-1? will that give us the same answer?" AND I'M JUST FUCKING LIKE YES I FUCKING ALREADY DID IT I ALREADY FUCKING DID IT OH MY FUCKING GOD I DID IT CAN YOU JUST TAKE MY ANSWER ITS FUCKING 2 ALREADY

>>106347844
make it slave

>>106348056
>When you wake up in the morning, tell yourself: The people I deal with today will be meddling, ungrateful, arrogant, dishonest, jealous, and unfriendly. They are like this because they can’t tell good from evil.

Idiots are expected to do idiotic things and there's nothing to be mad about. Would you get mad if a dog barked?

>review for demo by colleague of initial stage of thing that was supposed to be in full integration testing two months ago
>he was really proud to show it off
>it's not working at all, the demo has all kinds of invalid inputs
my part of this was done months ago and its the much harder part.

Just bombed another interview for a job I wanted.
Meeting with CTO went fabulous, the recruiter even congratulated me, but in the technical interview as soon as I start shitting the bed with one question I stutter and become a complete faggot.
Fuck me I deserve my dead end devops (tranny sysadmin) job.

>>106348548
you didn't have to specify tranny, we knew

>>106347753 (OP)
repeat after me
TGIT

>>106348572
That all sysadmins are trannies? congrats

>just had a manager interview with Salesforce
>Waiting to find out if I'm even hirable before technical questions get asked
>Manager alluded to things being a shit show over there too
Maybe I should just stay where I am.

>>106348602
No i knew before that by the self-deprecating language

>>106348332
no because ID BARK WITH HIM WOOF WOOF

>>106348613
>>Manager alluded to things being a shit show over there too
This is the main reason why I'm scared about changing jobs, I think everyone, everywhere, is retarded. At least the ones here I know how to handle.

>>106347790
I hate vibe coding
I hate vibe coding
I hate vibe coding

>>106348056
document via email. then later you can say "per my email"

>>106348635
All that recommended moving to AI, MBAs. How many of them are getting the axe? None because they already jumped ship to their next company to fuck up. They already got Cracker Barrel.

>>106348637
Only problem is my current company is bleeding users because the dumb cunts on the business side kept raising prices to meet growth targets. Now the product is too expensive and we're getting our shit pushed in by the competition while our parent company keeps creating retarded targets.
My only hope is to just stick around and hope I can parachute into a healthier child company because the parent company is still massively profitable.

>>106348659
I’ve been vibe coding since 2023 and I keep getting promoted

There won't be a rate cut the inflation is still shit.

I genuinely think everyone hates me and I'm going to get canned soon.

>>106347753 (OP)
started paying way over my monthly payments on student loans and have realized I don't make enough to pay them off as fast as I want. Now I need a new job baka

>>106348635
companies don't care, they see the push as protecting their investments.
>>106348613
Salesforce basically ruined their brand and support and people are leaving it for AI enabled tools that do the same job without the bloat and nickel and diming add ons.
>>106348695
I rose to this spot without it, I don't need it. It's a time sink for me.

>>106348739
>he pays student loans in current year

>>106348741
Speaking from experience? Don't want to jump out of the pot into the fire if Salesforce is also a shit show.

>>106348789
I never worked there but we dropped them at my last job and we're trying to drop them at this place I've been at for 4 years now

>LinkedIn slop posts
>"AI engineers are being treated like star athletes"
So when are they gonna Moneyball this and figure out that those EnGiNeErS aren't worth all that cash? https://youtu.be/b7_wq9CoIYA

>>106347844
yes, job market is doing wery good saaaar
pls do not be of questioning it

>>106348807
when prices keep going up like they already are now

>>106348752
looking to buy a house and paying off private student loans will increase the price of a house I can afford because debt/income ratio.

>SSL cert lifespans being reduced to 47 days
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ssl-tls-certificate-lifespans-reduced-to-47-days-by-2029/

fuck me in the aaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssss

I'm considering banging out a few projects on GitHub so I can start linking it during applications. Does anyone know whether this kind of thing achieves literally anything?

>logged off for the day
>log back in this morning
>I got a slack message at 5:53 yesterday saying "hey anon"
I wonder what they wanted. I guess I'll never know!

>>106349140
bruh, I've linked my portfolio multiple times in my resume and applications and every single one that has rejected me never bothered checking them out. Even the ones I got interviewed with didn't even bother looking.

>>106349217
Thanks. So I guess the only reason to make projects is either for personal satisfaction, or for learning, or if you're actually expecting the project to take off and thus make you a name

>>106349242
It's good to have if they look or if they ask just to check off a box. I only find it annoying because my portfolio easily bypasses all of their stupid questions.

>>106348725
what did you do?

Those of you working remote, do you actually work while travelling or just sit on your room all day like I do?

>>106349123
debt slave, lemme guess you're asian

>>106349352
white as can be actually. going to own a house so I'm not paying 1500 a month to some kikes to own nothing

>>106349127
It will be mostly webdevs and free lancers (and small businesses) affected. Internal certs will most likely keep their 1p year ling durations.

>>106349217
You are expected to have git, but nobody really cares about its content. Most of employeed people stop updating public git. Sometimes it's even in contract that you are not supposed to write code in free time.

>>106348659
I am coding with the real vi.

>>106349326
sit ina room

>>106349166
why don't they just ask the fucking question
these people

>>106349297
I'm just a sperg, diagnosed with depression a while ago too, so probably not really a joy to be around, I still get my job done and by stats alone I'm a gret performer but still.

>>106349420
everyone else's student loan is being forgiven in wave after wave, I don't know why you haven't noticed this

>>106348635
I used GPT5 to fix svgs that (((figma))) and our designer fucked up. AI is here to stay but LLMs will not lead to AGI not will they outright replace anyone. But they have the potential to make experienced devs more efficient.

>>106349474
There is a stage after depression where you've seen enough hell that you start to revel in it. Once you've achieved this you'll be more fun again. And insane.

>>106349467
Sometimes I wish they'd even just talk and have a normal conversation.
I'm pretty good at water cooler talk.

>>106349514
federal maybe not private ones

>>106349474
maybe you're just a schizo anon
people think about you way less than what you imagine

github down or some shit?

>>106349605
omg you ARE retarded! and you're paying it off just to buy a house at 200% value!!

>>106349610
Could be.
I used to maske it pretty well and almost pass for a normal person but I'm just too tired.

>>106349543
Well I'm more pleasant to be around when I drink.
Until I drink too much.

>>106349474
I'm depressed so much that I started to enjoy everything, waiting for the unthinkable.
I'm too gay for this world.

>>106349700
When I'm tired everything feels nice and happy, I even enjoy talking to people. Real life Pyro vision that disables reasoning because everything becomes friendly.

>be senior swe
>born in us, speak perfect english but also know enough hindi to get by in conversation
>tfw ai will never replace you because you're the only one who can corral the actual indians and get them to get stuff done
>yet another stellar performance review, yet another huge bonus, they're gonna give me my own team soon

sucks to suck whito*ds enjoy the bread lines lmao

>>106349658
fun fact, the quicker they're paid off the less money you pay to jews in interest! Also in my area home prices are dropping so they're nowhere near 200% value at least from pre-covid value

just stop being sad bros
spend your money in looksmaxxing and be happy

>>106349796
Wife and I paid nothing. Guess how much I owe?
Married with kids, 4 bedroom house etc btw

Its mind-boggling to me the lengths some people go to be dicks and undermine other coworkers in office settings.
We don't have to like each other, but at least don't act like an asshole on purpose and make life hard for others.
I imagine it's going to be fun to start looking for a new job in a period as shitty as this one, just to leave this fucking place.

>>106349841
guaranteed house prices will never be as low as they were pre-covid unless there's another 2008 crash so I don't really care desu. As long as I dont have negative equity in it I'll be fine

>>106349900
I'm just fuckin with you, best of luck, but really you should've gotten that federal loan payoff it was sweet. I think we were actually 3/4 paid off when it was forgiven.

>>106349944
i owe barely anything in federal loans so I'm not that worried mostly annoyed at my private ones. Shoulda worked during college but was too busy being a retard. Gotta work harder to make up for the years of retardation

>>106349806
Do you know just how much GLP1 costs? Fin/dut/minox are almost free in comparison.

>>106349851
This one asshole who publicly put me on the spot broke his tendons.

>>106349996
Steroids are even cheaper than both. No one knows the full extent of the negatives for GLP1. Just eat a steak and salad everyday to get to ideal body type, nothing else is needed.

>>106350015
>No one knows the full extent of the negatives for GLP1.
You say this while recommending steroids? Seriously? I swear some of you fuckers lack all rationality.

>>106349433
>Sometimes it's even in contract that you are not supposed to write code in free time.
There's no planet where they can forbid me from doing shit on my free time.

>>106349520
>But they have the potential to make experienced devs more efficient.
I heard they did some experiment with LLMs and found that they made low performers perform better but didn't improve high performers almost at all.

>>106350033
>There's no planet where they can forbid me from doing shit on my free time.
Humans are not free. The second you piss off the wealthy and influential the police will kick down your door and either gun you down or put you in a cage.

>>106350015
>No one knows the full extent of the negatives for GLP1

Pick up an endocrinology textbook my man.

>>106350044
Depends on the task. I am talking about real life applications in moderately to extremely complex software architectures.

>>106350044
Doo you happen to know how they defined "Low performers" and "High performers"?

>>106349806
I'm good looking and I could have a young woman as a gf but I refuse to move to a big city from my small comfy city, but only because I'd have to waste about 15% of my wage on rent. otoh, I live in my moms house and it's a shithole. idk what to do...

>>106350252
don't waste your 20s anon
you can worry about money later, but you'll never be your current age again

>>106350252
Agree with other anon, just like women men can waste their youth on their career. Gotta go out and have adventures.

>>106350252
As long as debt doesn't follow you, the career will come so long as you are consistent at work.

>>106349140
Nobody cares about your GitHub. Not once in my 12 years of experience has anybody ever asked to see my GitHub history. I work on Enterprise systems with private GitHub instances. You're gonna see blanks because I don't work for free.

>>106349795
>He thinks we're gonna keep hiring an army of jeets when one white American college grad with a cursor subscription could do the job of 500 jeets without the high error rate
Your parents are going to be deported and your citizenship will be rescinded.

>>106350485
stay mad while i stay winning. don't spend your whole unemployment check in one place kiddo :^)

>>106350531
You're brown

>>106350538
great observation

hey /g/ents, I have a QA job for a big US company, I work remotely and even though they pay us less than employees in other countries I am earning a lot for my country standards (easily 2x standard it/swe jobs here).
I can literally spend most of my time fucking around on my own pc playing vidya and watching youtube and still consistently get fat bonuses for great performance because the job is that easy.

You might be thinking I am in a great spot, but the reality is that this shit is super boring. I've been trying to convince my manager to shift me into a dev role for the past 1.5 years, hoping it would be slightly more interesting. They keep saying that we can try, maybe, dunno, gotta ask my manager, etc. etc. and pushing it down the road. Should I just buy some courses with company credit and start applying to other jobs?

This is really comfy as in I get a lot of money for almost 0 effort so I don't wanna fuck it up, but I also don't want to spend my life hating my job and/or risk losing any relevant skills in the market and getting fucked over when/if I get fired for whatever reason

>have direct contact to a job I applied to
>friend pushed my application through to the right people
>he notifies me his role is getting expanded to include part of the job I applied to
>he's pissed because there's no pay bump
>he finally broke the news they're not filling the role or hiring
>he's already looking for another job
And that company is wondering why they're experiencing brain drain

>>106348332
>Would you get mad if a dog barked?
i would be Aroused

>>106350822
>he notifies me his role is getting expanded to include part of the job I applied to
>he finally broke the news they're not filling the role or hiring

It is insane how many times I've heard this same shit IN ADDITION to the fact that it also happened to me

>>106350648
>You might be thinking I am in a great spot, but the reality is that this shit is super boring

I actually had a remote job that turned hybrid as a cloud technician. My job was just doing prod to test database refreshes.
>Run script
>Wait for it to complete
>Mark as "Complete" on Jira

I've been in your shoes cause I wanted to move up only because It was punishingly boring.
My advice is to do the shit you like with the money you get. That's just what normies do for their shitty jobs.
I liked building servers and integrated circuits so I just made personal projects for cool shit I wanted to build.

I just signed with meta
currently wfh no name company 5h/week job

will document my regrets

>>106351139
Wow, they're actually hiring? I got rejected a few weeks ago for a vague reason.

>>106351231
Pendulum will swing back to onshoring again. After the USA midterms we will find out.

>>106351304
I think immigration restriction is going to go down with the ship in the face of the coming Trumpcession.

I'm interviewing for Canonical Ubuntu (SRE)
any anon with tips?

>>106351546
I thought about applying to Canonical but then I read what people wrote about their hiring process.

>>106351555
qrd?
yes, I'm required to upload a huge pdf answering a ton of questions, but I feel like its better to do it through a pdf than live

is that the issue?

I think once I get my 1 year cliff stocks, I'm going to quit tech and try to start a new career writing scripts for TV shows

>>106351580
they make you do tens of interviews over the course of months.
then they reject you.

>>106351729
TV shows are dead anon. Make scripts for anime or give up entirely on writing anything but Wattpad slop. Video games have absolutely crushed the entertainment industry into a pulp. Anime is eating what's left of the pie.

Why are you guys so fixated on the consumer sector when it's so fucking volatile?

>>106351907
Government contracts is stability but consumer sector is massive profits.

just me or did the job market get way better this week?

>>106352137
Last hiring uptick before holiday season. They may have overestimated the market and under-hired the last quarter. This tends to happen with new presidencies.

>>106352137
ai bubble just burst

>>106349795
You will be going back

>>106352137
DOD stopped the hiring freeze so it probably has some ripple effects

ready for friday night, /twg/?

>>106351907
that may explain why I'm seeing some FAGMAN activity on my shit

>>106352238
I wonder how much that extra 150 billion added to the military will affect their recruitment numbers. That alone is why it's called a welfare organization. We also are seeing more kids stay or go back into school for their masters degree to avoid the economy. Hopefully this free's up job positions.

>>106352262
sure... i guess....

>>106348613
It's a shitshow in like 90% of places, negro.

>>106351955
>government is stability
>gets DOGE'd

>>106352280
your plans for tonight, anon?

>>106347753 (OP)
I have claimed up the ladder over a 15 year career to the point where I am now just a professional tard wrangler. I have wasted my life up until this point.
I think I need to come up with a way out asap before I neck myself lol.

>coworker was laid off due to budget cuts 2 weeks ago
>cuck manager invited him in to the office today for bday celebration to give us all "a chance to catch up"
>small talk was extremely awkward so he just started bitching about the job market
>left after 30 minutes to "go to a job fair" (pretty sure he made that up)
utter humiliation ritual
i wish i had called in sick today

>>106350351
>>106350417
>don't waste your 20s
... I already did, and I'm on the edge of having wasted my 30s

>>106350428
I have enough savings to live for a decade. I don't have my own house, though

>>106352529
Major risk in general. "Hey we are going to celebrate at a company function in a big group be sure to bring yourself and nothing else". Sounds like manager wanted his family to cash a life insurance claim.

>>106352440
make some pasta and frozen meatballs, then watch tv, head to bed around 9:30, I have a big day tomorrow

>>106349795
you're getting deported soon :)

>>106352639
i hadnt even thought about that, maybe i should up my life insurance in case he makes any more of these "see were all still friends here" decisions

I found out my Microsoft rewards today. I basically got a 100% rating, so I did average. 200% rating is the best. 0% is you're fired.

>>106352742
People hate me anon, the moment i become a manager i am getting 3 life insurances on my name. Turns out people hate honesty even if you try to be tactful, people hate being called out.

>>106351027
Oh yeah and apparently they're ready to start laying people off in a few months. Shit sucks.

>>106352775
Maybe you're an esl ragebaiting fag, but this is what came to mind when I read microsoft rewards

>>106348698
Real inflation doesn't matter. The numbers they use are practically made up. If they want a rate cut they can just adjust methodology or data selection to get inflation numbers that support rate cuts and do it.

>have to prove to a company you're good at problem solving
GPA - you're good at grinding and memorizing
Leetcode - you're good at grinding and memorizing
Experience - you need the previous 2, or nepotism, or just bullshit your way through and just be "likeable"

I fucking hate what's expected of you to "prove" yourself. I'm going to give a shot at starting my own company providing cloud software as a subscription written from scratch. If I can get it to make at least $10k a month, I'll never have to deal with another recruiter or trying to pretend to like someone I hate again. If I hate you, I could just stop selling my product to you.

>>106353044
and as soon as you need to hire someone youll understand why those questions are needed

Talked to garmin. Fuck them. The first thing listed in the job description was c#, but turns out it's java. I was shooting for c#. Then they told me to bend over and that the job is on site 5 days a week and I have to be drug tested. I said ok. Then I got an email saying they aren't going to go forwards with me, I wasn't even given a shot to do the leetcode. I get that companies are in a position to be picky as fuck and work you to exhaustion, but I just want a shot at doing the technical interviews. gave my resume (I have experience at a startup essentially doing everything from backend to frontend, to devops) and it says that it's strong. but that's not enough in the current market. fuck

>>106353044
??? What are you new to the job market?
Guy in the last thread was bitching about the same thing about "Why do i need to know CCNA level topics for a NOC position when i mostly just copy and paste CLI commands into Putty" Its so you are actually prepared to handle the issue no matter how large or small. Last thing you want is some retard who doesn't know what TCP/IP model is or what an Protocol is to fuck with equipment worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

>>106352971
"Rewards" is what Microsoft calls its yearly bonus program

>>106353091
One time I interviewed an indian, and instead of leetcode, I decided to ask them to implement a simple web api (get, post, put, delete) in the language and framework I told them to use. The rule was they could google and look at docs as much as they wanted, just no AI. It did not go well (for them).

That test seemed much more accurate that what large companies are doing.

>>106353141
Most larger companies would rather hire silver tongued retards since "liberal arts students know compassion, ethics and critical thinking better than engineers". A technical manager takes the reign from HR to do hiring to avoid getting these uneducated retards through these testing methods.

>>106353133
I put ability to problem solve and being able to figure out a problem you've never seen before way higher memorizable stuff that's also easily searchable

>>106353170
Yeah but one builds upon the other. You make it sound like you only memorized during your entire educational experience. How many projects on your own time did you do? How many random unknown bullshit did you handle at the work space required you to both have the knowledge of to solve and require you to research a solution too? At the very least memorization is the basics to learning, knowledge of how things connect is the basics of troubleshooting. Troubleshooting is the act of problem solving an issue even with limited experience on the matter.

When you handle a shitload of applications you need to filter for each layer of understanding.

>>106353133
you almost had a good point until you chimped out about obsolete OSI model crap

>>106353292
Dumbass i said TCP/IP model.

>>106353304
it doesnt matter how the packets are getting yeeted at me when ios only cares about the header information

>>106353318
Yeah until you hire someone who asks if a header is something you get from a hooker. Then you realize why this shit is asked in interview. If you cannot explain some of those concepts then how are they going to comprehend an autonomous system number?

>>106353330
don't care; can look it up when it comes up

maybe if techbros obsessed with "gatekeeping" ever wrote a manual ever instead of parroting "Documentation makes a codebase LESS maintainable" for 50 years there would be people around who know what a subnet is

>>106353353
You can't look up shit if you have zero knowledge of it.

>>106350822
Shit like this is why Timmies don't succeed in the workplace. Getting your role expanded to include other duties is a major win.

>>106353369
Every jeet's dream is to become a corpo slave

>>106353410
>NOOOO HOW DARE I DO MORE WORK SO THEY CAN TEST ME FOR A PROMOTION
This is why Indians are all the CEOs of tech companies and you stay a slave.

>>106353358
skill issue, there's always some grognard to badger and random files on the common drive or manufacturer's service manuals to peruse

bring back medieval guild systems where fledglings are trained by the current krew instead of the current model of "You don't have 90 years of experience on the specific model of server we keep disconnected in a closet off-site? BLACKLISTED"

>>106353369
arguable; expansion of role and non-core duties are good for personal growth, but jobs are for getting paid. aint nobody wanna do that shit without extra mon$y for it

>>106353430
If all you care about is how much you can get paid, then you're nothing but a parasite and the company is obviously going to lay you off.

>>106353417
Ok, you can be the kike golem, I'm not going to argue with your ai generated rage bait. phul sappart for israel saar

>>106353438
If the work was worth doing on its own, they wouldn't have to pay me for it.

>>106353447
Put the fries in the bag.

>>106353454
Come up with better rage bait JeetPT

>>106353430
>medieval guild systems
Waste of time to have apprenticeships for Tech/IT when you can pickup a book learn the concepts either get the certs or put on your resume that you did X self education on the topic then get the job. Also way to many sub categories within IT alone to make this a pain in the ass. Its much easier to get someone that is specialized in a subject experience wise then move them into another subject with a different cert. You then filter through interview if they know that topic from X cert to get them the job. Programming has a project they take home with them for that filtering process but at the end of the day it allows people to swap between specialiaties alot easier. Doing a trades program for Tech/IT would waste everyones time including the one getting trained since you have to teach a drooling teenage alot of shit that would require either a degree or them to sit down on a few books for a couple months straight before being allowed to touch the 20k$ fiber optic switch.

god i wish i had a bag of fries right now.

>>106353494
Ask >>106353452 and >>106353447 for some. They'll start their shift at McDonalds soon.

>>106353430
>bring back medieval guild systems where fledglings are trained by the current krew instead of the current model of "You don't have 90 years of experience on the specific model of server we keep disconnected in a closet off-site? BLACKLISTED"
That WAS the medieval guild system. If you had talent or learned quickly, then you were still stuck slaving away as an apprentice until you got seniority and then were saddled with an apprentice of your own. We ditched that system for a reason.

>>106353494
Speaking of which, did the Microsoft cafe anon report in today? His posts are the highlight of my in-office day

>>106353511
but it's not the same. back then you would join the guild (through nepotism yes, but still) and it was known you had no experience. you were given experience slowly by getting instruction on some small piece of the greater operation, getting good at that, and growing over time with some nurturing and training.

now, you get out of college, get told that you got pwnt for falling for it, and that you are blasklisted because at 22 you don't have 21 years of "AS400 Experience"

>>106353524
i wish my new job had a cafeteria but the break room just has half-price chocolate bars and coffee paid for by some kind of office volunteer association thing. it's convenient but i miss the chef-cooked hour-long lunches I had when I was on the minesweepers

>>106353525
Guilds were indeed a way to gain experience, but they were the only way and did massive amounts of gatekeeping. If you rubbed someone the wrong way during your apprenticeship, instant blacklist. No refunds. It was a terrible system.
The problem now is companies don't want to train workers for various non-university skillsets, both out of greed and a fear that the person they just trained will walk away to a better job. You can't get out of that by forcing an experienced worker to waste his time training a novice "just cause". We can easily have more organized programs than that, within and outside of companies.

>>106353500
>>106353454
>>106353417
pour me a coffee sikh horton

>>106353525
No one gets blacklisted you can re-apply for the job later. Just put on the resume that you learned X and did X with it. That alone can cover for lack of degree or cert most of the time.

More importantly the fitler is the fact that you have to know alot more of the basics before you can do more of the focused worked within Tech/IT. You barely have to know shit to be a blacksmith so that apprenticship program is likely alot shorter than what we have to deal with college/cert wise.

>>106353545
>No refunds.
well you didnt pay anything either and at the time you could just go be a farmer instead so no harm no foul

>The problem now is companies don't want to train out of greed and fear
>We can easily have more organized programs than that,
you COULD but le certificates and degrees are not accomplishments may may

>interview on wednesday for sys admin level job working for forensic lab
>want this job, workplace seems really cool, but nervous since I don't tick all their boxes and still got an interview
Any lab IT bros here? I'm coming over from a clinical IT workstation team.

I always had an idea in the back of my mind to transmit data through audio cables. Like get two m/m audio extension cables, plug one end of one cable into the speaker port for one PC and the mic port for the other, then do the opposite with the other cable, then you can output sound directly from one PC to into another, and with some modulation you can send data.
I wonder if there's a potential $1b business in this.

>>106353585
Rasheesh i have to ask you a serious question do you ever wash your hands after using the toilet? Have you ever used toilet paper or do you prefer using your hands and wiping it on the walls of the hospital? When a HDD is broken do you flip the magnetic disc or do you flip the cow dung patty?

>>106353628
>When a HDD is broken do you flip the magnetic disc
This is the average level of actual IT knowledge among the code monkeys seething about jeets taking their jobs

>>106353634
Its fine we can just apprentice random kids off the streets to work on IT. No need for prior education to weed out the retards. ALSO CAN YOU GIVE ME PASSWORD FOR MY PC IT HELPS ME GET JIRA TICKETS DONE.

>>106353647
>>106353634
Shut the fuck up retard. IT jeetggers add no valuation to the company and are literally only there to pretect HR stacey from herself.
I already have full admin on my corpo laptop btw
dd dev/null/ | sda2
oops looks like I have full control over MY laptop now :) :) :) IT wagies btfo.

>>106353647
Luckily the retards get weeded out pretty fast since I do hospital IT. We had one guy just stop fucking coming back after he had virtualization explained to him, it was pretty fucking funny.

>>106353671
how did you explain it to him

>>106353692
I didn't. The guy explaining it gave a pretty fucking textbook diagram of how it works.

>>106353671
Alot of virtualization to cover was it in regards to the entire concept and its examples? In which case it might have been an hour too long of an explanation. Gotta break that out into bite size pieces. Regardless though not being able to handle brain dumps of info is a weakness in this industry so grateful he weeded himself out.

>>106353712
It wasn't really that long, it was basically just how a thin client works and how a print server reaches it.

>>106353722
Oh man what a spineless coward. Good riddens. Put that shit into the ask people into the interview question box.

>>106353710
did he because theres a lot of technologies i've touched in my life without knowing what the fuck they are and it taking someone to explain it in a way that isn't Objectively Wrong just once for it to click

for example for years people told me that asymmetric crypto just "has two keys" and certificates work by "you just trust the signer lol" and all kinds of weird fuddlore, but then reading an actual textbook about it where it explains that the functions are one-way and the encryption/decryption keys are distinct and so on it suddenly made sense (because I wasn't being actively lied to)

>>106353722
You have 10 seconds to explain what a thin client is

>>106353748
It's a really tiny computer like picrel, right? And it connects to the print server through the cloud.

>>106353748
When a client(customer) takes GLP-1 medication and becomes thin(not obese). It virtualizes weigh loss by skipping the hard part of putting down the fork when it makes you not hungry for you.

>>106353740
I would say so. Imo virtualization is just something you have to trust works like others say it does until you actually touch something that uses it and then it will click. It's not a hard concept but if you get sat down second day of a new job with no prior experience and get told how it works you'd probably go wtf too.
>just remembered that guy claimed he was majoring in computer science
lol

>>106353748
I just tell the new guys it has enough power to turn itself on and manage opening a portal to the data center

>>106353748
It's a really small server that connects to the cloud to give you a Virtual VDI Desktop Interface

>>106353671
How do I get a job in IT when my resume is tailored for software roles? Most of my IT experience comes from home labing. Currently have a security+ cert, should I also get the otherones like linux+, network+, server+? But the IT pay caps out at way lower than software so I don't know if it's worth the effort to pivot.

>>106353748
It's like a cloud server but just for your desktop.

>>106353748
Reinventing the wheel of tech by bringing back mainframe computers. Atleast in spirit it is. A complete and total step backwards from what made thick clients prevalent in the workplace to begin with. Complete gimped support for the customer making it even harder to justify using when companies are just going to cheap out on it anyways.

Same goes with running multiple applications on a server without a seperate hardware backup server. It negates the purpose of individual servers per application to begin with which is reducing downtime.

>>106353775
I wouldn't use the term server because there is nothing connecting to it, so it doesn't meet the definition of a server in my opinion

>>106353797
We're not giving you the admin passwords. Fuck off.

>>106353801
I like them because I don't have to maintain hardware for 7000+ computers.

>>106353797
We have a lot app analysts, maybe check it out

>>106353801
but docker means its 100% uptime even if I have to restart the entire server every time i change one config???

>>106352784
>people hate being called out
praise people in public
call people out in private, away from others

>>106353811
You still do anon the only thing that really breaks is the back of some desk side support technician.

>>106353811
>"app analyst"
idk what retarded meme made every IT job become an "analyst" but i challenge any HR roastie (or failed coooder IT bootcamper) to define "analyst" right now

the greatest disaster of "tech" "industry" today is that words have lost all meaning

>>106353847
Analyst is what happened when GWOT was ending and Intel people flooded the IT space(mostly cybersecurity) with meme degrees. All IT jobs analyze data so its not like its unique to any sub field.

Intel makes less than IT folk in the IC btw.

>>106353861
i dont think its this because every dipshit hell desk position only became "analyst" instead of "technician" or "technologist" in like 2020

>>106353912
Yeah you make a good point. Same with every mechanic being called a technician

Just checked my microsoft portal. Can the microsoft cafeteria guy explain what this status means? I know that this job application is inactive and it doesn't really matter at this point, but what does transferred mean?

>>106354025
it has been transferred to state or federal government. you're going to be prosecuted for fraud for lying on your resume

What, if anything, would be a side project worthy of a resume as a supplement and indication that I am capable of more things than what I am assigned at my job? My current job is giving me professional experience, yes, but nothing all that impressive in terms of technical demand, and most are government contracts that I can’t talk about. So despite having 6 years experience I still have no portfolio I can really show off. So I will just have to make it myself but do recruiters/employers even care? Am I just screwed. I am looking for a new job now and I feel this predicament is really putting me in a bad position in this market.

>>106354025
>>106354041
just reported you to the fbi m8

>>106354025
I have no idea, I haven't interacted with that portal since last year, and I don't remember seeing that status.
Anyway, I had the General Tsos chicken today, it was pretty good, but basically mall-tier Chinese food.

>>106354086
Anon there's a reason government work is considered a dead-end, boomer job. It's where you go to live out the rest of your career until retirement.

Thoughts on Amazon interviews being total leetcode grinds?

>>106354346
Not entirely you need to learn the full stack, networking and other random shit. They are filtering out people into tiers of experience. The more you know the higher the pay is with a title to go with it.

>>106354340
I see. Is there anything I can do about it?

>>106354501
If your DSA skills are good you can give >>106354346 a shot. They'll hire just about anybody.
Other than that, leverage your network and keep applying. The market sucks for everyone right now.

>>106349474
You're probably fun to be around, but you're too much of a sperg to realise it.

made a pipeline today to trigger other pipelines because the pipeline team is too busy changing how everything is done for zero benefit instead of adding helpful pipelines

>>106353748

minicomputer that loads the os from a server instead of a hard drive. common in hospitals.

>>106355280
I'm gonna micro load into your mini server

>>106355422

gaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>”It’s a Java job”
>It’s actually a YAML job
Kill me

>>106353410
>You will neither be Chinese or Japanese, and work in corpo 24/7 to make up for loneliness, nor you will wake up in PMD and be happy.
>But you will be swarmed by the Indian zerg

Even with no self-preservation instinct, and without strong feelings about Indians, this feels sad.>>106353417

>anons discussing thin infra
Tbh there's a huge push from all hardware corpos for that.
It's not sustainable to have all employees a4000 when they compute for maybe few hours a day. MS is pushing for thin infra too.

>>106353538
>>106353524
I usually just drink coffee and bring my own food to cafeteria.

>>106353801
Tbh you just need a server with windows services. There's citrix. There's anyware that works on linux too. Or just x ser-.... Ah yeah the plants from MS and IBM killed it so they can sell you >>106353775
VDI.

>>106353755
Print server?

AI IS DEAD! LONG LIVE AI!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2ljcpT_xhs

Now that AI hype is waning, what will techbros' big bubbly thing be next? I bet it'll be mesh networking again.

>>106355691
the fuck is a YAML job, what do you write? configs?

>>106357425
Have you done anything in Kubernetes, Ansible, some form of automation?

>>106357442
not really beyond some docker stuff, wasn't really aware it could be a specialized full time thing, more like part of some role

>>106357204
imho it's gonna be quantum, they have been drumming it up more and more for the past few years and every x months someone comes out with a pr whitepaper saying they have quantum supremacy (they don't).
Problem is quantum is so far removed from normies that I cannot see it having the same stranglehold fucking AI has had on everything for the past few years

So how many of you are gonna go work for muskovy's Macrohard?

>>106358163
I doubt quantum will be it since we already had a big marketing push on the word alone and then a whole lot of nothing. It would take an actual hardware breakthrough that, even if it happens, would be initially very expensive and controlled/achievable by only a couple of companies, on top of being such a shift in the basics of computing that it would take actual effort to learn how to program for.

For a real modern tech bubble it has to be within reach of ycombinator goons

>>106358200
I'd rather stay as a NEET than go work for Musk's dumb ass.

>>106357458
I think that the implication of >>106355691 was that most of his working time is spent on YAML and not writing code, despite on the face of it being a coding position.

>work remote
>company flew all of us that wished to attend to one of the cities they have an office location in
>company paid 4-star hotel
>free meals, we get re-embursed for other expenses
>death by powerpoint most days
>company hired a small fleet of buses to take us to a baseball game
>they sent me my tickets via email
>didnt read, didnt care
>had this smooth femboy come over to my hotel room
>no sex, just cuddle and side stuff (mutual jo, edging, frotting)
>he left at midnight covered in hickeys
>next and last day of meetings
>packed as soon as they were over
>took uber to the dinner location
>open bar, ordered $100 worth of mixed cocktails within 30 min
>they brought out wings and nachos but not the main courses yet
>ate a fuckton of wings
>tell my coworkers and boss that i dont want to eat or drink too much and i want to be packed and ready to leave in the morning
>handshakes, say nice seeing me in person, etc etc
>i actually left early because femboy wants to come over again and this time to stay the night

I'm looking into what I need to handle if I want to start my own company for contracting and holy fuck. I think I need to get really desperate to go down that route. Also feels like the fixed costs from just having a bank account and an accounting service also eat up into the profitability of a single-person operation.

>>106358618
i wish i were a corporate femboy

>>106352529
When i was laid off i just blocked my pajeet manager and my jeet skip manager.

>>106358730
im not a femboy, im a masc closeted dude. But if a coworker attended and i clocked him as a femboy i'd definitely strike up a conversation to test the waters and see what they were into and see if maybe they wanted something serious after we got to know eachother

>>106352529
I'm glad that my employment ended immediately.

what do you guys do on days like this saturday?
I waste most of my weekends on this forum and reading random shit/watching videos on yt, even though I live like half a mile away from a beach (it's winter in my side of the earth, though)
I feel so lonely...

>>106358848
I didn't insinuate you were, I just said that because you have access to femboys
>tfw cant be a femboy because im fat, pretty big even without a belly, and a big grumpy mutt overall

>>106359459
im getting drunk and playing with Hammer (Source SDK)

>>106359587
are all femboys size queens or do they like small weeners too sometimes

>>106359607
from my contact with the Gay Community across two continents, most are not size queens but size queens are much more prolific content creators and pornography tends to encourage exaggeration so size queens are VASTLY overrepresented in pornography and online discourse

t. xl dragon dildo owner

>>106358714
i've got a better idea
a /twg/ company, how'd that sound

>>106359631
thanks anon

>>106359587
some sex-fiend femboys are sluts and fuck anything that can get its dick up. Other femboys only want love so they will have a low body count and be incredibly picky but not about looks, just how you present. If you come across as wanting to fuck them they'll be icked out. So just be friendly and dont come onto them for sex and they will like you for respecting their sexual boundary.

If you want to BE a femboy i've seen tubby femboys get love but losing weight isnt too hard, it just requires persistance. Count calories, walk a mile or two in the local park or trail every workday for lunch and you'll be down 10 lbs a month or at least thats how it worked for me

>>106359607
>all femboys
You can't generalize them, just like you cant generalize every fag. Some care about size, others body type, others personality and its usually a mix of the three

I prefer body type and figure i'd put up with or tame someone who just acts like a cunt. Dick size doesnt matter to me but the femboy i say had a shorter but thicker dick than mine

nothing against homos but please keep your faggotry off this thread

>>106359732
how do you know someone is gay? they will hide it irl but shit up the entire internet to make sure everyone knows

Writing a cover letter for a new job lads, wish me luck

>>106355691
>SWE job
>It's actually a SDET/QA job

challenging my boss to an FT5 in Soive for a 3% raise

>>106360193
Please refer to >>106359732

anyone doing embedded or something with the kernel?
is it actually cool and nice? is it worth trying to move into that domain? very tired of doing java plus centering divs
I know a guy who works at a big company who does kernel stuff and he does exactly that and next year I might try to ask him what he thinks about his job and if he could vouch me if there was ever a chance

>>106360483
people here cant even handle powershell you think any niggas itt do embedded

>>106359891
>they will hide it irl but shit up the entire internet to make sure everyone knows
Its funny because my boss and coworkers were talking about homosexuality for some reason and that evening i skipped out on an event to be with a femboy
They dont know im gay

>>106360493
you would think that given how many opinions this board has on the rust vs c/c++ thing that people here would have some sort of experience

>>106360493
exhaled out of my nose slightly harder than normal

>>106360516
people who know the least have the strongest opinions

>>106360509
they know they just dont care

>>106360534
Mostly accurate for most opinions on things.

>>106360483
AFAIK it's an extremely niche field but it is absolutely starved for new blood because no young people are able to do it and most of the wizards are close to retirement. It could be an interesting move, akin to maybe COBOL and its consultants commanding a serious premium because no one knows it.
Keep in mind though that you would have maybe 3/4 companies you could apply to (speaking of kernels, microshit, apple and ibm/red hat basically) where you know for sure that you could work on it, or you could roll the dice on companies that contribute to the unix kernel and hope that they let you do only that.
If you're speaking of embedded more generally, there's definitely more options out there but it will mainly be companies that are not widely known (if you care about employer status). also AFAIK it's hyper competitive because most companies want people that are already experienced and those who are experienced really do know their shit.
On the flip side, the few people I know doing embedded do earn quite a lot of money and have a ton of bargaining power because finding a replacement isn't easy.

>>106360671
Brainlet here wouldn't they also be looking for EE guys who deal with circuit board designs? I feel like Embedded is one of the fields that requires a bit more than programming experience to get a job at.

>>106359732
>Nobody responds to my posts because they're too fabulous even if actually on-topic tech stuff
>Deviant larpers start posting offtopic about adult topics
>Everyone is okay

utwg needs to go and stay go. Seriously.

>>106360483
Depending on what exactly it'll be kind of niche and you'll have to stick to few big companies.
If it's just embedded android dev then it's kind of okay.

>have to go to work on monday
how do i cope with having to become a grown-up with a boring job

>>106361195
Learn to garden.

>have to fix a retarded coworker's mess because "i'm the most capable person in the team"
how do you cope with being forced to fix your coworkers' garbage code?

>>106361205
I don't have a lawn.

>>106361407
I just don't code. It seems like very little good comes of coding.

>>106361407
"I won't answer that."

>>106361043
Nah, I don't think so. The people I know who are in the embedded field only work on the software stack and the HW is handled by other companies that then contract the SW people to write code.
Knowing EE is definitely a plus though, if you are able to probe the board and do shit on top of just writing the software it's better than nothing, but I highly doubt you'd need to be a PCB engineer to get a job in the field

>>106361407
just do the bare minimum to not get fired and you won't have retards bugging you every time there's an """""emergency"""""

>>106361663
Thanks for the insight anon.

>>106361407
Ask for a raise.

Is data engineer a real job? I'm a sql "developer" monkey in a dead end role making just $47000 (yes I am fucking pathetic and should kms) and I want to escape this hell.

I don't feel like my sql and database experience would help at all getting a regular fullstack web dev or whatever role, so I've been looking into "data engineering"

>>106362662
They sometimes call it Database Admin, Database Scientist, Database Analyst. Tons of terms are used for the same positions. Also consider System Admin(server & cloud) it might have some direct carry over due to organization size.

LLM's, AI, and other gay terms are built upon the backs of databases.

>>106362662
It is indeed and for a time it was quite sought after because of ETL for AI training. Now that the bubble is popping I'm not so sure there are many openings for it though.

>>106362662
i have 5yoe
I started data analyst, currently analytics engineer (140k remote), just signed yesterday meta data engineer (264k onsite)

>>106359459
might i suggest you develop an enjoyable and reasonable vice such as visiting asian massage parlors?

>>106362662
is anything a real job?

>>106349326
Sittin' on tha toilet.

what chair you guys use when working from home?

>>106363593
the cheapest steelcase one

How bad is your office with H1B?

>>106363651
My boss is indian

>>106362868
What skills do you need to make that kind of money these days?

>>106363651
Im the only h1b hire. Not indian so they treat me no differently than the rest

>>106363669
data analyst you just need the most basic sql
analytics engineer is a meme job that just means you understand dbt and are not retarded. Having some snowflake exposure and knowing a BI tool also helps
data engineer at meta is just sql and python leetcode + playing with legos
data engineer at any other company is more about infra stuff, fivetran, dagster, airflow, etc

140k, 1k rent, 0 state income tax
Vs.
200k, 3k rent, 5% state income tax

>>106363825
I would take having a job over not having a job but unfortunately hiring isn't real anymore if you're not Indian or an extremely lucky non-Indian H1B

>>106363796

>>106363842
...this thread is for employed people anon...

>>106363875
Sorry saar, please to be understanding, saar.

>>106363825
Second one still has an additional 33k advantage over the first one.

>>106360086
Did GPT do a good job on the cover letter?

>>106362877
thanks for the suggestion, but I don't like prostitutes. I need real connection with someone who can endure my autism. I was retarded enough to dump my now ex-gf and now I'm paying the price...

>>106362868
L4?

>>106365273
meant IC4

>bunch of urban youths are screaming and banging on random cars by the curb while sprinting up and down the road
Oakland is like 1hr away, wtf are they doing here?

ngl ive been using claude 4 to code for a few months now. it's better than an entry level engineer 100%

>>106365375
is claude the code nerd one? i have basically all the big name AI models at work but none of them seem particularly good at understanding embedded code

I'm not remotely as good as people claim I am and I'm simply coasting at work waiting for the jig to be up

>>106365375

they're all kinda dumb and just guessing, but they do a decent job at it

>>106365375
I HATE AI.
I am SICK of coworkers using it, completely fucking the project, and boss telling me to help.
We have ANCIENT ant scripts and NO you can't install Spring Boot with all the fancy whistles to this piece of shit project and make it work.

>>106351139
>I just signed with meta
>currently wfh no name company 5h/week job
>will document my regrets
looking forward to you 8-10xing your hours potentially

make some good bread while you're there tho. peace!

>>106351231
I imagine a company the size of Meta will have departmental differences in whether or not they actually recruit people. Some departments might just be fishing for the top 1% in case one applies, some might actually need people.

>>106363825
first one is probably a shit hole, second is civilized

>>106366675
"civilized" with uppity nigs running wild

>>106349520
I basically find it useful for 2 things: to program boring shit that I aldready did before and is just stuff like taking service A and applying flavor B to it, and straight up searching stuff instead of using google.
Other than that, it mostly shits the bed, specially those reasoning models that just regurgitate their own vomit. It's usually more practical to just do it yourself.

I have no house and I must NEET

>>106367775
I'm a NEET with my own apartment.

>>106367956
i so sorry anon, but neets aren't allowed here

>>106352490
>wasted my life
Anon, you were living life and you're far better off than so many others.

>>106352407
Doesn't matter. Gov filters out H1Bs so hard it is essentially 90s-00s hiring spree 24/7 on tech workers who can tell the difference between windows and linux. Half the pay is worth it when you don't have to debase yourself in front of corpo masters and say thank you as they mark you to be fired anyways.

After 4 years at this company I'm burned the hell out and want to switch. Started looking around, even took 2 weeks off so I could focus on the job hunt. Wish me luck bros.

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ais-big-leaps-are-slowing-that-could-be-a-good-thing-34c87619?mod=tech_lead_story
What are we thinking lads?
I'm in the midwit zone of LLM knowledge: I know how they worked in 2022-2024 but not in 2025+

>>106369055
damage control aka cope
investors are fucked

>>106369084
Yeah but I'm asking more along the lines of how it affects SWE.
I use Gemini and Claude a lot; but I babysit them and only give them very small tasks at a time

>>106369084
companies whose entire business strategy is "use other company's product; do not provide a product ourselves" aren't financially solvent? say it aint so!

>>106369100
from what i've seen at work, they're as good as the person who's using them

Are hedge fund devs job worth the increased pay over faang?

Be honest thread. Are you really employed?
https://strawpoll.com/B2ZB9B1LpgJ

>>106369741
virus donot click

>>106369741
What the FUCK all my bitcoins just got drained

>>106369741
What the FUCK my pile of percs just got slightly larger who ADDED to my percs

How do I stop staring at the boomer HR office lady's shapely ass?

>>106369741
BRO WTF?!?
Where did my 3 petabyte folder of BBC porn go?

>>106369988
Stare at this

The fact that there are public sector unions sounds like the cartoonish villain straight out of a Ayn Rand novel.

>>106370357
>AIEEEE WORKERS HAVE RIGHTS EVEN WHEN TEHY WORK FOR THE STATE AUGHHHHH IM BEING FUCKING GENOCIDED!!!!

>>106370366
yes actually

they literally work for the government collecting paychecks from my fucking taxes

to do absolutely nothing

why does a bus driver or a teacher need a union

i already pay them

fuck you

>>106370366
"We gotta get more money from the biggest fat cat of them all, the tax payer!"

If you're still able to be employed in this economy anyways it's likely you're already a slave so I don't feel sorry for you.

>>106370366
They already steal all the value of my money by refusing to go back to the Gold Standard, the (((government workers))) don't need more money from me.

>>106370357
>>106370366
>garbagetrannies and fire"fighters" take money directly from my paycheck every week
>tranny glowies want me to think this is a good thing and they need even more

The only government "service" that should exist is the police to wrangle all the niggers and somehow police never seem to need a union, hmmmmmmm

>>106370357
Yep, even FDR railed against public sector unions.

>>106370357
this ists insane fully insane they keep stealing my money and just taking MORE MORE MORE when will it end my TC should be MINE

>>106370467
I don't even want police, since it seems the only purpose they serve anymore is to keep white people from defending themselves.

>>106370475
Surprising, considering FDR was a communist.

>>106370485
thats only in niggertown blue states in red states your still allowed to shoot niggers who come too close

>>106370357
>75% of my paycheck goes to these PARASITES
>they start a union and say they need 100%
Why we just let them strike? Fire them all then they dont do anything useful. They're only employed because of (((thinktanks)))

>>106370518
Sure if you live in the middle of nowhere. But most "conservatives" are only slightly less cucked than lefties and lefties rule the cities everywhere.

>>106370485
Everybody hated public sector unions until JFK made them legal in the early 1960s as a quid pro quo for the union support he had that launched him into the presidency.

Pay the syndicate goy

>>106370539
im so happy he got shot in his fucking head

when is daddy trump gonna make unions illegal again

>>106370610
Trump is pushing to make some (VA, etc.) public sector unions illegal. It's a small step, but it needs to be done to set precedent

>>106370670
>VA, etc.)
GOOD fuck veterans they dont do anything for the economy fucking leeches

>>106370672
the VA union keeps veterans from getting quality care

>>106370767
based but we can automate it

IT niggers need to fucking die. All they do is go around in their "server room" speaking chimp chatter and bonobo babble niggerspeak and they do NOTHING to increase the company's valuation. The network and my computer work just fine, why are these fucking retards still getting paid?

>>106371071
>>106371071
>>106371071