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YOLO edition

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READ THE (temp)WIKI! & help by contributing:
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Home_server

/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a OPNsense/PFsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.

>What software should I run?
Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin/Emby/Plex to replace Netflix, Nextcloud to replace Googlel, Ampache/Navidrome to replace Spotify, the list goes on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.

>Why should I have a home server?
De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your tech skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.

>Links & resources
Cool stuff to host: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted
https://reddit.com/r/datahoarder
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/index
https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Features
ARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGaVu0sPBEy5GgLM8N-CvHB2FESdlfBOdQKqLziJLhQ
Low-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-odvwZpQZKv_NCI
SFF cases https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ8sxLUqlxVsCz4/
Cheap disks: https://shucks.top/ https://diskprices.com/
PCIE info: https://files.catbox.moe/id6o0n.pdf
>i226-V NICs are bad for servers
>For more SATA ports, use PCIe SAS HBAs in IT mode
WiFi fixing: pastebin.com/raw/vXJ2PZxn (embed) (embed)
Cockpit is nice for remote administration

Remember:
RAID protects you from DOWNTIME
BACKUPS protect you from DATA LOSS

What are you hosting with open ports?

>Banana Pi BPI-M4 Super with Rockchip RK3568B2 and Dual Ethernet
>Banana Pi has shared more hardware details about the upcoming BPI-M4 Super, a single-board computer designed for multimedia and IoT applications. The board integrates dual Ethernet (1 GbE and 2.5 GbE), PCIe expansion, Wi-Fi 6, Bluetooth 5.3, and 4K HDMI output.

>The board is built on the Rockchip RK3568B2, a quad-core Cortex-A55 processor running at 2 GHz with an ARM Mali-G52 GPU. It supports OpenGL ES 3.2 and Vulkan 1.1, while the VPU enables hardware decoding for H.265 and VP9 video up to 4K at 60 fps and H.264 encoding up to 1080p at 60 fps.

>Memory options include 2 GB, 4 GB, or 8 GB of LPDDR4x RAM, with 4 GB as the default. Storage is offered in 8 GB to 64 GB eMMC variants, defaulting to 32 GB, and can be expanded via a microSD card slot or M.2 Key M PCIe 3.0 slot that supports SSDs from 2230 to 2280 sizes.

>Other hardware features include HDMI 2.0b output for 4K displays, a 40-pin GPIO header compatible with Raspberry Pi accessories, dual USB 2.0 ports, a USB 3.0 Type-C port, and a USB Type-C for power.

>Audio support is provided through HDMI and a headphone jack, while additional connectors include a fan header and RTC battery input. User controls consist of reset, maskrom, and power buttons along with system LEDs.

>Pricing and availability have not yet been announced, though Banana Pi has published additional details on its Wiki and product page.
https://linuxgizmos.com/banana-pi-bpi-m4-super-with-rockchip-rk3568b2-and-dual-ethernet/

>>106358486
>ARM
if it's not RV I don't want it

>>106358457
qbit

>>106358457
>What are you hosting with open ports?
As in, open to the internet such that it can be accessed externally?

Nothing for the public, everything is blocked except for https://[PublicIp]/[Webpage] at which the user is redirected to https://[PublicIp]/login which is the login page of my home router, a Fortinet Fortigate 60f. Upon successful login they are then sent to https://[PublicIp]/[WebPage] and so long as the login session is active they also gain SSH, SMB and SAMBA access to the VIP destination of [WebPage]

Using this method I can have User-based access policy where depending on the user logging in, they are granted access to specific VIP mapped internal resources but for now I just have one VIP set up mapped to WAN

>>106358457
Wireguard

is there a web application to manage podman containers?

>>106359929
portainer has an entry for it, I've never used it myself, but you can start there

>>106358486
>A55
ewaste

>>106359929
cockpit

>>106358457
Nice try glowie, but you'll have to probe it yourself.

>>106358486
>upcoming
>quad-core Cortex-A55
Imagine being excited for this in 2025.

>>106358503
Have you had a look at ARMv9?

How should I rack mount my dell 3040 server?
I need to build a DC pdu at some point

i'm planning to use my pc as a gateway device for home network.
all devices + ap (for wireless) connected to a x16 switch. the pc will have two nics: one for lan side one for isp modem/router. 192.168.1.1 facing the lan and 10.0.0.2<->10.0.0.1 on the isp/modem side.
it's kinda retarded, but since i'm already behind cgnat and for some reason my isp absolutely doesn't want me to use my own router, things like dual nat or port forwarding don't matter for me. also im already doing a similar thing using proxies.
i heard i could do "router on a stick" with vlan sepeartion without needing two nics, but i think that would make it just messier.

what i currently have in mind is dhcp server+pihole with dnscrypt or doh+wireguard+zapret, you guys have any other suggestions? would squid come in handy?

what's a good note taking web service i can run?
paperless doesn't let you edit contents, but i have all my scripts and notes that i want to view and modify from a web interface.

>>106362043
wantguns/bin

ok... so now what?

>>106362635
pick a docker you want to run and expose it to your private network. done in 13 seconds.

>>106362635
What do you need I can point you to a crazy setup young black critter

>>106362516
nice but i'd want to be able to search it, not write down paths for everything.

>>106362881
>>106362883
ran out of ideas. What are some really useful things anons here run?
Here is my ansible (no wireguard yet, gotta call isp for ipv4 port forwarding):
playbook: setup-pi.yml

play #1 (raspi): raspi
tasks:
Update and upgrade apt packages
Copy zshrc file
Copy bashrc file
Ensure directories exist
Configure fstab
Ensure ufw is installed
Enable ufw
ufw Allow SSH
ufw Allow SMB (Samba)
ufw Allow Jellyfin
ufw Allow internet-pi
Disable root login and password authentication
Allow only key-based authentication for specific user
Install Samba
Configure Samba share Bigdrive
Configure Samba share Ehdd2
Configure Samba share Ehdd1
Add Samba user
Install Docker dependencies
Add Docker GPG key
Add Docker repository
Install Docker
Install Docker Compose
Add user to docker group
Create Jellyfin data directory
Create Jellyfin cache directory
Deploy Jellyfin container
Install rclone with script
Create rclone config directory
Create rclone cron log file
Copy rclone filter list
Copy rclone config
Create the rlcone script from template
Create PUSH Rclone cronjob
Create PULL Rclone cronjob 2
Create ONEDRIVEPHOTOS Rclone cronjob 3 (Change when upgrading phone)
Create qBittorrent data directory
Deploy qBittorrent container
ufw Allow qbittorrent
ufw Allow qbittorrent port
Ensure VueTorrent is cloned
Add monthly cron job to pull latest changes in VueTorrent


my ansible config was too offesive for pastebin btw

>>106363244
I would install diet pi as my OS and add vault warden and have it host my own dashboard while monitoring my UPS and have it gracefully shutdown my devices.

Is there anything better than Truenas scale for free?

>>106358861
Whats the best android wireguard app?

>>106364389
WG Tunnel, because it can automatically activate when you're not in your home wifi.

>>106364403
I saw that one on fdroid I figured it might be better than the official app

Ive never really used wireguard I was too smooth brained to figure out how to set it up in opnsense but now it looks like opnsense generates qr codes so it might actually be tard proof

Got a Ruckus ICX7150-C12P 12x1G and 2XSFP+ for 20 dolars, was it a good deal?

>>106361903
why is this in your garden?

>>106364333
depending on your criteria: omv works for smaller/weaker servers

>>106363361
unfortunately i have no use for those, but thank you

>>106364763
>was it a good deal?
Attach a power meter to it and find out.

Why is it cheaper to get a shitty VPS than getting static IP for my home? I wanna get a home server but I can't justify paying more for the IP and electric bills and the hardware.
How do I get cheap IP anons...

>>106358457
A website

>>106366727
You don't need a static IP, just get a free dns domain

I have a Crosshair VIII Dark Hero mobo with a 6900xt GPU in the x16 slot, nvme in the m.2_1 slot, another nvme SSD in the m.2_2 slot and an HBA SAS controller on the second x16 slot. My GPU is now running at x8 4.0 as indicated in pic related. Can someone explain to me what's going on and what I can do to get my GPU to run with full capacity without having to remove the SAS HBA?

Oh, I forgot pic related

>>106366778
Wait am I retarded? Can you actually host something behind a NAT using only a dns domain?

>>106367255
Not enough pcie lanes. this is just how they are built. using both x16 slots will get you x8 each. should say it right in the datasheet.

>>106367255
>>106367263

>>106367414
DNS and port forward. you can use a dynamic IP even, it just may or may not change. mine changes every year or two. the advantage of a dynamic DNS service is you can use a script to update your DNS records automatically if your IP changes while you're away from the server. it's about just as effective as a static.

>>106367450
>>106367443
>>106367418
I figured, but, I was hoping it wasn't the case. what do you recommend I do or would get? I have lots of SSDs running on my server

>>106367654
Don't worry about it?
Are you worried about actual performance or a number going from 16x to 8x?

>>106367654
x8 4.0 is basically the same thing as x16 3.0
IIRC 6900xt shouldn't be bottlenecked by that because it doesn't actually need the full bandwidth of x16 4.0.

>>106367693
You make a good point. As long as I can play Elden Ring and the occasional 2.5D vidya, I'm good. thanks for your input
>>106367716
Yeah, which seems to be sufficient for games I deem worthy my time, anyway. thanks mate

>>106358448 (OP)
post that pape on the right please

>>106358457
plex and wireguard

I also have SMBv1 enabled :^)

I administrate networks for a living.

>>106364763
only used catalyst/meraki/aruba/unifi/mikrotik/fortiswitch so no idea.

do you usually buy shit without knowing anything about it?

This is probably a retarded question.
>If I simply install apache2, forward ports and put some HTML in there, is it secure?
if so,
>If I install apache2 and php, forward ports and put some simple PHP script that echos back Hello World, is it secure?
When I say secure, I mean that my server won't have anything that gives the user shell access, anything that lets a user view files outiside of directories, etc.

>>106367654
I doubt you actually need the full x16. so I wouldn't worry. but in the future look at actual server cpus if you're doing more with it. one big advantage is the additional pcie and ram channels.

thanks to the anon that mentioned using Wake on Lan to stop my server from needing to be physically restarted after a period of being shut off.

I use this and it works a charm
https://github.com/Misterbabou/gptwol

>>106367905
absolutely, this is where my mind is, currently. any recommendations for a server CPU build? something within the $2K price range

>>106366684

It can't be worst than a server right?


>>106367866

Did some basic research, seems to have some nice features and It'll serve as a stopgap for my 10gb needs without having to resort to chinese switches. Since it's a lesser known brand i'm still not 100pct sure if it was that good of a deal but comparing to ebay prices, it seems like I managed to score something good enough.

>>106368195
depends what 2k includes. ram and drives add up quick.

>>106368245
well, I currently have a 5900x with a 6900xt and 32GB of RAM running at 3800hz anything that's going to be an upgrade to my CH8DH and the specs I have is welcomed, but, I'd like to cut cost and as much as I can. I mean, I don't want to go unnecessarily overboard, but, "dem lanez" is really important.

>>106364763
I'd say so; I've been watching in passing on eBay and I haven't seen one that cheap. You'll probably find this thread useful:
https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/brocade-icx-series-cheap-powerful-10gbe-40gbe-switching.21107/

>>106366684
The thread I've linked above says 12W.

>>106368231
>It can't be worst than a server right?
Data sheet claims 20W idle, 157W will full PoE load.
https://webresources.commscope.com/download/assets/Ruckus+ICX+7150+Switch+Data+Sheet/b013d23e3bd511f0a7293e67199c332c

>>106367468
I will try setting that up and if it works I'm gonna expose my ports. What should I know about firewalls beyond "ban china russia and india"?

I see a lot of traffic from Brazil too. 30 day abuseipdb and firehol lists out in some work too. fail2ban, using things like nginx auth module to offload headers to custom scanners etc. you can take it as far as you want, but most malicious traffic is lazy bots spamming default/leaked logins and misconfig probing. you average IOT devices is more of a threat.

>>106368438
>>106369369
fugged up

Why is radarr downloading fake releases in the form of .iso files... What the FUCK man

How do you guys deal with unsupported codecs when streaming media using Jellyfin?
I'm running into the issue a lot and am debating between converting all of my media to different codecs or just downloading versions of said media that use supported codecs. Either one seems like a pain in the ass and even then I'm not sure what the best approach going forward is after I unfuck all of my current video files.

I've recently upgraded to fiber, and my ISP gave me this outdated shit.
I want to upgrade to something better, but the webUI is locked and the default admin/admin didn't work.
Is there a way to brute force it? or bypass it.

>>106369805
>I want to upgrade to something better,
Why? Looks like it's just a fiber to ethernet bridge, just plug your router in. In my country they pretty much force you to use their shitty ONT+router all-in-ones, I'd kill for an ISP that would just give me the damn fiber terminal and not a damn TR-069-enabled router too.

>>106367898
it's secure, as long as there are no exploits in the apache2 and php versions you are running

>>106369631
I just use samba most of the time. 50% of the vids don't work. I transcode audio, but my pi can't handle video

>>106369865
>Why
It overheat and freezw, and I need to portforward things since it's doing some routing too.
And it look ugly.

>>106370099
>It overheat and freezw,
Complain to your ISP.

>it's doing some routing too
Unless it has its own public IP address instead of your router, I doubt that.

>it look ugly.
How terrible.

>>106370126
>Complain to your ISP.
Did nothing
>Unless it has its own public IP address instead of your router, I doubt that.
I checked
>How terrible.
Very terrible

>>106370096
Yeah, I'm using a Pi as well and video is the main issue.
I've been meaning to upgrade my hardware but as far as currently available solutions go do you have any recommendations?

Is reapplying thermal paste and some dust cleaning the only maintenance I need to do to my 6 year old home server?

>>106369805
I don't know about your specific device or ISP, but in general, if you're wanting to replace your ISP-provided ONT, this would be a good place to start reading:
https://pon.wiki/

>>106370328
I wouldn't reapply thermal paste. just dust it.

>>106370445
why not

>>106369805
>>106370393
PONiggers have it good, DOCSISsies are truly fucked what with the completely closed standard it's your ISP's way or the highway.

>>106370464
Repaste only when thermal paste performance is obviously degraded (noticeably higher temps at same ambient at same workload).
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Probably a stupid question but for a normal person (home server use) what is the point of NVMe SSDs in servers? Doesn't matter how blayzan fast you are when your bottleneck is going to be your network. Surely SATA SSDs are still plenty fast enough for msot people's netowrk speeds?

>>106370393
I looked it up man and it wasn't on it.
>>106370474
Not really, they could be limiting me with that PON, Tenda PON have that functionality.
so it's not just simple fiber to ethernet, it does some routing as well.

>>106370785
Your best bet is to look for a local community of networking autists, they have probably figured it out.
It might be as simple as getting one of those gpon sfp modules then programming the right serial number into it.

>>106370685
It is a stupid question. Faster is always better, not all data is transferred over a network.

when should I make the leap from shoving more drives in my gaming PC to building a home NAS?

>had an HDD drive fail a few years ago resulting in data loss
>never did anything about it, still have an old fashioned two drive setup in my main PC

>>106358457
My reverse proxy so I don't need to constantly open more ports.

>>106371063
>when should I make the leap from shoving more drives in my gaming PC to building a home NAS?
If you have stuff you want to reduce the risk of losing as much as possible and don't want to put it on someone else's computer aka "the cloud"

>>106370685
For filehosting, there isn't much of a point in going super high speed. For other server things, things that have databases, things that do local r/w before sending out a web page, it matters much more.

>>106370848
>getting one of those gpon sfp modules then programming the right serial number into it.
what?
It's basic web UI authentication that's not even SSL

>>106370785
>I looked it up man and it wasn't on it.
Here's another site you can take a look at:
https://hack-gpon.org/

That one doesn't seem to have your specific device either, but it does have more information on GPON/EPON (your ISP is using one of the two), versus the first one being mostly XGS-PON. You might want to try checking on the discussion channels (Discord/Telegram) linked on those sites; maybe someone has some advice that isn't in the wiki.

>>106371172
He's talking about how your ONT (the Tenda HG1 from the picture you posted) authenticates itself to your ISP, not how you authenticate to log into its web interface. If you want to replace it with another device, without your ISP's cooperation, you generally have to program it with some information from the device your ISP gave you, so that it looks the same from their end.

Why don't you love your data?

>>106365557
They fear the outdoor server

I have a spare 8 gig ddr4 stick of ram, would it cause any issues if I put it in my proxmox server? It currently has 2x8 gig and a ryzen 5 2600x cpu, all three sticks are 3200mhz. The extra ram would be neat but I'd rather have a stable system.

>>106372514
Absolutely not. Enjoy your more RAM, that's all. Dual-channel will work on flex/ganged, but that's totally fine for a server.

Do you think TP-Link networking equipment is good, or will it spy on me since they're a Chinese company?

>>106372696
my third world shithole mostly has tp-chink stuff. it's fine if you're a beginner like me I think

>>106372696
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/12/report-us-considers-banning-tp-link-routers-over-security-flaws-ties-to-china/

>>106370275
bump for interest

current map

>>106373106
>drawio
LibreOffice Draw, yEd, or something else, anything else for me.

If I have a Raid 6 or 10 array, is there any benefit to some but not all of the drives being a larger size?

Like, if I have 4 drives, is 2 of them being 12tb and 2 of them being 16tb giving me more space (I don't think so, right?) or improved performance or redundancy or anything vs if all 4 drives were 12tb?

If people do need to upgrade their capacity but don't have the money to replace every drive in the array, do they typically like, buy a higher capacity drive to replace a dead lower capacity drive, and by the time the last original drive dies you'll have all the drives now at a higher capacity? or is that not recommended either?

Do ZFS arrays benefit from mixed capacity quantities at all in a way normal RAID does not?

>>106373371
Those don't look as good or have the same easy UI, I really like how drawio works and it's better than the microsoft software as well in regards to UX

>>106373668
>Those don't look as good
Is that why your diagrams looks like rancid ass? >>106373106

https://www.yworks.com/yed-live/

>>106373875
Not opensource can't do it

>>106373106
I like odroid too. It's pretty good stuff

I have what I believe to be a ONU converting the fiber optic signal to internet and passing it to a modem+router combo from my ISP. This piece of shit ISP won't give me the credentials to the router no matter what though, so I can't port forward stuff on my network.

If I buy my own router, can I replace their without calling them to come set it up?

recommend pls a network switch to buy for use in 3 rooms. min 4 ports, don't care if more.

>>106374040
the one at the donation/chop shop of reused pc hardware

>>106374022
I'm skeptical that you'd have both an ONT and a modem. I'd lean towards you being able to just plug your own router into the ONT, but with some ISPs, like AT&T or Bell, it might be more involved. Pictures, model numbers, and what ISP you're on would make it easier for someone to give you a definite answer.

>>106374040
You're putting one switch each in three different rooms, or you're running cables from one switch to the three rooms? Either way, if your only requirements are "a switch", one of these should be fine:
https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-8-Port-Gigabit-Ethernet-Unmanaged/dp/B07PFYM5MZ
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Gigabit-Ethernet-Network-Switch/dp/B00A121WN6

>>106362040
When is someone going to answer me?

>>106374241
wrong post, oops
>>106367898

>>106368292

Hadn't seen that thread, thank you for linking it.
Just on the first post there's already some good info on sfp adaptors and licensing.

Seems like licensing is the biggest source of complaints from this brand of network equipment but at the same time it's easily bypassable.


>>106368311

I'll be replacing two switches(actually two old consumer grade routers) and a poe injector so maybe it won't be that bad. At least it won't be server level power consumption.

>>106361511
I run one of these as a regular desktop machine on Debian 13 with an RX7650 GRE. Aside from the fact that I have to unplug my USB hub so it'll actually post, it's great.

>>106374230
one in each room from a home run to the rackroom. totally ignorant about any feature someone should care about in a switch.

nothing fucking works
it's all fucking broken
sometimes i just do simple braindead shit to make myself feel better
>grug write webpage in html only

>>106374863
grug miss blink tag

Why is ZFS better then RAID?

t. complete novice at this who has never used anything but windows and is buying a NAS

i've got a nas

Can I configure a DNS on it to geo-unblock certain websites? If so, where can I find good DNS servers or would I have to pay? If I have to pay, who are some good providers?

best distro/OS for CCTV?

>>106376532
DNS can, but generally doesn't, have anything to do with geographical blocks. If you want to access something not available in your country you can either get a VPN or settle for TOR.

>>106374591
It's UEFI right? Is it as good as x86, just boot install media and go?

>>106376737
Pretty much, just set it to ACPI in the BIOS and it'll boot from any generic ARM64 image like an x86 platform

>>106369631
>>106370096
>>106370275
>>106372999
Get an Ugoos AM6B+

>>106370956
fucking moron. value is subjective, therefore, faster it's NOT always better. Jackass

>>106376726
Or a proxy.

am i right to have security concerns regarding running an ethernet cable along the exterior of my house, or am i just being paranoid

>>106377225
What is the threat you're concerned about?

>>106367255
>>106367654
Looking at the charts posted
>>106367443
>>106367450
Try putting the hba in the 3rd x16 slot so it uses the chipset instead of bifurcating the cpu lanes. It appears to be only electrically x4 but unless you're running a bunch of SSDs it should be plenty of bandwidth 99% of the time.

>>106377513
>>106377513
Will do today

>>106377298
glowies and/or mentally-ill exes intercepting my connection

>>106377879
Use SSTP cable for the tinfoil and IPSec for the hat?

>>106377513
it works! thanks a lot

>>106358457
Back when I could afford a vps that I could port forward everything to, just mediamtx and some minecraft servers.
Now I just do minecraft through cloudflare tunnels even though its slightly more cumbersome.

>>106376726
>>106377105
Oh, right
Thank you. I have a VPN but the site I'm trying to access has blocked it

The more and more I work with a raspberry pi the more and more I see why it gets stuff in a dresser
It's such a user unfrendily piece of shit and at it's current price I don't see a reason to buy this fucking under powered thing when they can't even include the right adapters to set this shit up headless without hacky ways that just frustrate

>>106378813
>they can't even include the right adapters to set this shit up headless
Just pull out the display/input(s) when you're done? Or does it not boot headless?

>>106378830
They want you to do extra steps but the truth is why do I need to buy a obscure unused hdmi cable just to connect to properly set it up to run on a SSD?

>>106376882
>Ugoos AM6B+
Are you saying to replace my Jellyfin/Pi setup with this or can I stream from Pi to this to TV?
I use Jellyfin on multiple devices so if this can stream across my LAN I'd consider it.

has anyone used Bees dedup with BTRFS raid yet? I have 200TB+ of data I want to try this with, but wary of the downsides of using it

I've decided the pi is too slow for anything other than busy work and basic monitoring and UPS duty. I have enough resources on my odroid h4 to handle any gui service. Adding a SSD gives too much overhead and makes the footprint to big because it needs to be powered to work correctly

>>106378840
have your Pi be your main Jellyfin server that goes to the Ugoos AM6B+ that's connected to your TV. Install coreELEC on the AM6B+, setup Jellyfin repo for Dolby Vision Profile 7 movies and shows playback. You can throw anything at the Ugoos AM6B+. You'll have no more need for transcoding and so on.

>>106378958
He could buy a x86 mini pc at that price point, why even bother?

>>106378958
This fixes it for my TV but I'm looking for a network wide fix.

>>106379019
because the x86 pc won't be able to handle the formats without transcoding

>>106378958
Could I then stream from the Ugoos to other devices on the network? Make it a middleman?

>>106379059
Could it not handle those formats?
These systems come with igpu

is it ok to update my server to debian 13 yet?

>>106376030
ZFS is properly paranoid about spinning rust, is much more robust and requires literally 0 (zero) upfront cost

>>106378835
>obscure unused hdmi cable
You mean micro HDMI? It's hardly obscure, and the $5 adapters aren't gonna hurt you. If you don't like that, you should have done your research and went for a Rockchip-based SBC instead, they usually have full-size ports.

>>106379436
I was able to fix the problem but the problem still stands, the pi is a absolute shit tier value. I didn't even buy this post covid and revisiting it pisses me off, I have the cable it was lost in my draw, but doing a head to head it's performance and modern pricing is fucking laughable.
These things need to never break $40 to be worth it and should only cap at 60 for 8gb+ once you factor in the overhead cost for everything else. It's a shit value even for it's intended purpose vs the competition

hope this is the right thread.
1. can you recommend me a reliable middle class nas that can hold two 8tb hdds with raid1.
2. will I encounter any problems when encrypting both hdds while running any raids?

>>106379716
You can use a old computer and run truenas scale

>>106379505
NTA but pretty much everyone agrees they're overpriced. They still sell like hotcakes because businesses want one for every electronic sign or tv.
Idk how you had so much trouble setting it up headless. I imaged an sd card, set my wifi creds in a config file, and it booted right up with wifi and everything. I haven't even used the hdmi port.

>>106379132
no modern GPU can handle DVP7

>>106379387
can you clarify? almost all of that doesn't mean anything in practical terms nor does it really explain the actual way it functions

>>106380174
https://youtu.be/l55GfAwa8RI

cant wait until hexos comes out so I can ditch unraid

What is the most easy and brain dead method of setting up a network metrics dashboard that can integrate truenas scale and proxmox?

>>106373596
>>106373596
>>106373596
bumping

sup faggots

I finally bought my own place and would love to set up a home server (I think). Love the idea of distancing myself from the corporations with those god awful sub fees.

my goals are
1. have my music stored locally and be able to splay it anywhere through a wifi connection
2. have a local LLM as a basic personal assistant
3. have nothing to do with windows anymore

problem is i'm one of those pc nerds that only got as far as learning how to crack vidya, and thats pretty well it. hell i can't even type that well lol.

where do i even start learning about what i need to achieve my goals? would this be a complicated system? how many man hours would be take to learn/maintain a system?

tyvm

Are there none of these dual port 2.5GbE things that can actually saturate both connections at once? Every one I can find uses a PCIe 2.0 switch chip capping the whole card to <500MB/s. Even the ones that use the i226-V (PCIe 3.0) controllers use 2.0 switches.

>>106383080
they often skip the switch chip and it only comes into play if you actually use vlans or other more advantaced features such as storm control and port isolation.
for simple link aggregation and untagged network traffic most of the stuff is done on your pcs cpu cause the nics have a direct line to the pcie bus.

>>106383226
I'm talking about *PCIe* switches. At least one is required for a card with multiple controllers on it because controllers can not physically share a lane. What I'm wondering is if there are any of these cards with PCIe 3.0 switches on them so they don't cap the total bandwidth available.

I have upgraded my map

>>106383659
Messed up one of the names

so I'm running like 12 MDADM raid 5 arrays, grouped in a single VG0 > LV0 > BTRFS sits on top of this LVM

I just had a degraded drive fail on me... I don't have a spare drive to repair my Raid 5 arrays lmao and I want to reshape them uising grow but my frakinstein configuration is a pain to manage and I feel like I will break something

>>106384235
>Used:98.43TiB
But why though?

>>106384235
Learn ZFS.

>>106380211
So if i'm a complete noob to this and have never used anything but windows, has never used a nas or a server, has never set raid up etc, how would I go about using ZFS?

TrueNas, Unraid, or HexOS? Or is there anything else? Is HexOS at a point where it is worth using if I feel i'm too ignorant to use the former two?

the $50 buy still goes hard, just as a AP, but its coming up to 3 years online

>>106385390
>TEMPLE OF NOD DETECTED

why would i buy a openwrt compatible router instead of using my old laptop/pc?

>>106385488
Because a 40W router is a bit stupid.

>>106385488
Starting point for anon to get his feet wet.
It's a fine place to stay but some of us hunger for more

>>106385518
well, isn't the point of having an openwrt router running stuff on it?
you would still need something decent enough to do things other than just routing/nat
>40w
besides can't you lower the consumption? at least close enough to what decent openwrt router watt would use.
and any laptop will have much higher raw power too. the trade-off doesnt make sense for me

>>106383080
Actually didn't know these cards used straight up PCIe switches.
Always thought they had another interface on chip to daisy chain mutiple MACs to one card

That being said it's going to be hard to tell what card has what outside of physical photos. I took a look and even a "legit" brand like Syba uses the same ancient ASmedia PCIe 2 switch chip you're referencing.
I did see Startech is using a 2x interface but if you want a 1x card that isn't helpful, also uber expensive
One clue is to look for cards that mention PCIe 3.0, that might imply a PCIe 3.0 switch chip, but not guaranteed.

You might also rethink if this is a problem in the first place.
PCie is full duplex so if you wanted 2 ports to do a router than the PCIe 2.0 switch chip isn't a killer, you get 500MB/s in and out, the bottleneck only comes in if both ports are simultaneously sending or receiving data, but if one port is receiving data while the other spits it out then it's not a problem

what else should i run?

>>106382738
Get a basic server or some old pc that is fairly efficient. Load proxmox onto it. Run post install helper script. Install services you want using helper scripts. Read all the spergs following this up with different opinions.

>>106385773
Docker, arr server. How do you feel about opnsense? I want to migrate to it from pfsense at some stage.

>>106385830
Can opnsense manage devices by MAC? At my last job we had Fortigate that was great for these kind of things. pfsense is kind of shit at managing devices.

>>106385880
what do you mean "manage" devices? you can assign an IP to a specific MAC address. beyond that what you you expect a router to manage?

>>106385880
I haven't run it yet, so not sure. It's a fork so should have similar capabilities. You can manually assign IP addresses in the DHCP server via Mac address. But if you had a client self determine it's address, who knows.

>>106386061
That's all good for static everything, but using DHCP makes binding names stupid.

Fortigate let you put MAC addresses in groups to manage them and add aliases for the MAC.

>>106386095
Looks like you can create an alias for a Mac address. Ask Claude or something, it might know how to do what you want.

>>106386137
I got it installed now to check it out. I just found that menu as well. Looks like I might dig into this a bit more, thanks.

im building my homeserver this weekend :)

My gmktec nucbox g3 plus mini arrives today
What am I in for
How long before I reee and change the win11 to linux

I got approved to purchase a networking gear for my cubicle.
What should I get, if:
>I got 3 vlans
The rule is that I need to route 1 wall socket to 1 port in device and can connect 1 end device (laptop, desktop, dock).
>I got around 8 devices total (it's a small k8s cluster)
I want to have few ports with an internal network between these devices.

Till now I just used hubs from trash and industrial pc with double port nic and usb ethernet network card but someone higher up seen that.

Have this issue where windows server vm in proxmox is constantly using ~3.5% cpu total or ~12% of one core. Any ideas how to fix that? cpu load inside vm is ofc close to 0%.

>>106358448 (OP)
Anybody here wants to be my friend and help a poor girl out in her adventures to build a home server for fun? I feel it's lonely to read everything by myself, I like human interaction especially from hobbies

>>106387223
It's beautiful. Looks like some stuff gets done there.
>>106387408
Probably hypervisor stuff. Can you make Windows go to sleep in a vm?
>>106387540
What sort of help do you need? Recommendations? Always a heap of different ways to do stuff, find the way that has a heap of community support, or most people are using. Start simple using an old computer, put proxmox on it, install some containers.

>>106384934
get on truenas. basic stuff like setting up an array + smb share is quite easy.

>>106387822
>Can you make Windows go to sleep in a vm?
Yeah but I need it running. It just feels that this kind of a load is excessive tho it's very weak and old cpu, celeron j1900. It still bothers me acoustically.

>>106387540
>I like human interaction especially from hobbies
then why are you looking at building home servers

why do these things cost so much? it's just a fucking monitor and keyboard on a piece of metal

>>106385518
why and when did we become such pussies with energy consumption? 40W at one point amounted to a single shitty desk lamp. displays and TVs would easily consume 2-3x as much. yet back then nobody cried about how much these things consume. it's only now that everything is 10x more efficient that you hear people crying that it's not enough.

>>106388150
Yeah but back in the day electricity was cheap as fuck, it ain't anymore.

>>106388184
okay, why is that?

>>106388191
idk, as stuff got more efficient and individual consumption went down electric jew had to find a way to protect his profits so he made electricity more expensive.
Samo goes for electric cars, "filling" EV up on one of those govt sponsored but private chargers is now as expensive as driving on gas.

>>106368438
>beyond "ban china russia and india"
don't trust any physical location because of how easy it is to proxy. assume real-world user location and geoip are completely disconnected, do rangeban those countries to filter the worst of it but don't trust that traffic isn't coming from them

>>106387822
>Looks like some stuff gets done there.
My setup at work looks the same, but with repurposed metal storage instead wodden one. I got 2 small racks, now I need the networking gear.

How do I handle separation of vlans and the patch pannel like requirement?

My cubicle is next to office and engineer people, so I cannot have anything more fancy, but i need these vlans for daily operations.

>>106388313
People talk about vlans in the physical domain, they are mostly wrong. If you have patch panels, consider each vlan a different network, and build a bunch of different networks. If you have a giant smart switch, plug everything into that and set up virtual networks inside the switch

>>106388454
>consider each vlan a different network
How else would you do it?

>>106388554
Run a higher layer network, assuming the hardware / Ian adapters can handle tagged packets

>>106388088
Is it really using 0, or just your logged in user? Could be a while bunch of shit running, it's Windows server after all

>>106388779
nah it's some kind of overhead, used to be 10%, someone suggested changing "Use tablet for pointer - No" and that cut it down to 4% but it's still too much for my taste.

>>106388191
Well we close down nuclear power plants, which provide cheap power, because of the environmental impact, then advocate instead for renewable energy. However most wind farms are privately owned, as are most solar panels, and the governance structure responsible for managing the grid has to subsidise all the extra power flowing in from those private hands- either by reducing their power bill (for your average home with solar panels) or by paying them if they generate a large surplus kind of like a subcontractor. Most of them have no battery/capacitor banks though to provide sustained output, eg during the night, which leads to enormous problems when electric companies try to cut costs by reducing their own production capacity (as you saw during the national blackout that impacted Spain, as tl;dr - they import so much power from other EU countries, and saw such proliferation of private solar over recent years, that when their grid crapped out the nation couldn't generate enough power to start it back up). Also when there's a shortfall of production vs. demand sometimes the main electric company has to buy power from private providers at extortionate rates, which is a cost they have to pass on to consumers- and because of the increasing number of homeowners with solar panels reducing only their own power bills by feeding into the mains, the relatively fixed cost of maintaining the grid (which you see on your bill as a "supply charge", in addition to whatever you pay per KWH consumed) has to be split among the shrinking number of proles like me who cannot get solar panels of their own, due to not owning our own homes (ie. from renting, or by living in an apartment building).

Especially now that houses cost 3x in my area what they did 5 years ago, the fact electricity costs are rising too because of homeowners with solar is really fucking annoying. It's just one more thing making it harder to save for a mortgage downpayment.

>>106389124
govt should have invested more into solar farms china style.
instead of giving initiatives for private homeowners why not just build one giga solar farm, it would be way more efficient that individual rooftoops and everyone would benefit from it equally.

>>106389123
It's def horny Cortana waiting for you to talk to her. Can you use one of those de-bloating tools to remove irrelevant services? Look at event logs to see what's going on? Disable windows recall?

>>106389228
Distribution problems. Be easier to put panels and batteries on everyone's house. People will pay for them on the promise they get some measly reward. Then the power is available where it's needed. Plus it adds a stagger, where the entire plant doesn't die at once.
It all boils down to electronics are more efficient than they used to be, but there are significantly more devices in everyone's house.

>>106389228
Well yeah, but that doesn't make the already-wealthy a bunch of extra money so of course it won't happen. Like with Australia, the place they literally call "the sunburned country" that sits atop giant piles of uranium of mines and sells to other countries for cents on the dollar, uses primarily coal-fired power plants because the status quo is what benefits the rich.

Also, when people get ideas like this they also start to wonder "hey why do private supermarkets exist? Food is something all people need, just like electricity, food, water, medicine, really shouldn't the government run those too so access is fair and guaranteed to everyone?" they tend to get called a commie/crackpot and/or wind up dead.

>>106389303
>but there are significantly more devices in everyone's house.
They're massively more efficient tho. Like my living room had 3x100W bulbs and I had dual pentium pro running 24/7 and electricity was non issue, never even thought about it as expense. My whole apartment now draws maybe 1/4 the power but my power bill is 3x larger.
Same goes for heat.

>>106389347
Inflation. Ideally you would earn 3x more and it all balances out right?

>https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack
These 12x and more 4u bays are fucking pricey. Is buying a 1u server off ebay for $100 a smart move? They generally come with at least 4 hdd slots. I just want a cheap nas but most solution are way too overkill when I just want something cheap and upgradeable overtime

>>106389494
1U have really loud fans, would not recommend.
Might as well get desktop tower and it put on a shelf sideways. Shelves are also expensive.

Ram and PSU arriving on Sunday.
TruNas build, so I decided to go with the max amount of Ram my chink-board would allow.
Didn't know that most SFF PSUs are overpriced garbage (I used the tier list). Purchased what was available at a reasonable price.
Now I just need to buy 4 16TB drives, to get my first data pool up and running. Will buy 4 more drives at a later time.
The build has been fun so far, but a major hit to my wallet. I guess that's the upfront price to be paid for self-hosted freedom.

>>106389842
You could just do 2 mirror followed by a 3rd drive as a backup.
What is your usecase?
People often overspend on builds

>>106358448 (OP)
>check 2.5 hdd prices on amazon
>barracuda 4tb 150€
>barracuda 5tb 130€
what's the catch

>>106390415
5tb probably shingled.

>>106390487
>barracuda
Spoiler: they're all shingled since like 2018.

>>106390499
Welp amazon only shows barracuda drives when looking for high capacity units so I guess I'll have to suck it up

>>106389537
if it's low TDP enough, why not remove tiny internal fans and mount some nice sounding big ones in front?

>>106358448 (OP)
Say I have a ZFS cluster with 2x 12TB NAS HDDs. If all I want is to preserve family photos and videos and protect against bitrot, do I need them to be in a RAIDed? I don't need to have these drives available 24/7.

>>106390663
because unless that 1U gear is extremely niche and you NEED it you can find similar 2U+ shit which is already orders of magnitude more quiet

>>106389930
Nah, looking into it, I'm not a fan of the multiple mirror setup (too many wasted drives). I'm going to do two big pools (RZ1) and call it a day.
The first pool will be used for media. Mostly movies, Anime, manga, audio-books. The second pool will be 4 smaller capacity drives. Haven't decided on 12 or 14TB. They'll mainly be used for my documents and photos, but I'll also be syncing my parent's phones and documents to this second pool.

>subsonic is abandoned and shit
what do you fa/g/gots use to play music from your subsonic server on android?

>>106390753
i'm dealing with hypotheticals here, anon. "just don't do it" is not a very fun answer.

>>106358448 (OP)
I tried to run a rack in my room, I felt like I almost died of heatstroke, wtf.

>>106390866
computers put out a lot of heat

>>106390799
NTA but that's just kinda it tho.
Most 1U servers with 4 drive bays are often packed to the gills with full server CPUs and need extremely fast fans just to keep from overheating at idle.

Your only real beat for a 4 bay 1u is the handful of supermicro 1u chassis that can take any given micro ATX board. You can then use lower power chips and maybe replace the 40mm fans with noctuas.

>>106390562
ironwolf drives are CMR.

>>106390975
but they are 3.5. it needs to fit in a sff

>>106390680
well if you don't need them to always be available and if you're not gonna constantly update them, then a cold backup is at least as good as any RAID

>>106391053
Right. Well I'll warn you, 2.5" HDDs are more sensitive to mechanical deviations and fail more frequently than 3.5" drives.

>>106385773
Just curious, what's in the TV VM?