Thread 106371542

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Discussion of Free and Open Source Text-to-Image/Video Models and UI

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https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
re/Forge/Classic: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassic
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflows
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com/
https://tensor.art
https://openmodeldb.info
https://openart.ai/workflows

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/tree/sd3
https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe

>WanX
https://github.com/Wan-Video
2.1: https://rentry.org/wan21kjguide
2.2: https://rentry.org/wan22ldgguide
https://alidocs.dingtalk.com/i/nodes/EpGBa2Lm8aZxe5myC99MelA2WgN7R35y

>Chroma
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-HD/tree/main
Training: https://rentry.org/mvu52t46

>Illustrious
1girl and Beyond: https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl
Tag Explorer: https://tagexplorer.github.io/

>Misc
Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
Samplers: https://stable-diffusion-art.com/samplers/
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Bakery: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage

>Neighbours
https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#rentry-from-other-boards
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/b/realistic+parody
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo

now that everyone is talking about nunchaku, i will remind all of you that i shilled nunchaku january and february 2025 and no one listened, i am better than all of you
stay mad /ldg/
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/104500146/#104505233
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/103804379/#103807689

>>106371554
do you have other predictions for us

threadly reminder that debian 12 is superior to debian 13
threadly reminder that 580.65.06 is worse than 570.133
threadly reminder that pytorch 2.7.1 is better than 2.8.0 and nightly

>>106371564
alright, is this one of those samplers that uses less steps than uni_pc or is it the same?

>>106371571
proof

>>106371571
> 580.65.06
I am still using 550.163.01 because it is the latest one that plays nice with a hybrid GPU setup on my wayland system.

>>106371571
other pytorch versions:

>>106371591
wf? i can't get the images to look as nice with the luis royo lora

>>106371621
Yeah it is pretty finicky. I trained it hastily without doing a lot of prompt or dataset tweaking just to give me something to work with on chroma. It seems to help to gen at a higher resolution. I have been doing 1.5megapixel base images. Why that would be I don´t know because I had code accidentally left in my training script that resized all the training images to 1 megapixel.

epoch 1, chroma v48
I guess it's getting there.

Blessed thread of frenship

Cursed thread of sex with children

>>106371571
>threadly reminder that pytorch 2.7.1 is better than 2.8.0 and nightly
Depends on your hardware I think, pytorch 2.7.1 is slightly faster on my 3090, 2.8.0 is slightly faster on my 5060 ti

>>106371705
What are you training ?

>>106371814
flux schnell lora

Another comparison between v48 and HD with gner and t5. Prompt was adjusted to stress the model out a bit more. HD continues to get his proportions incorrect and apply a gaussian blur to everything.

>>106371855
>flux schnell lora
Then why are you using Chroma v48 ? It's based on Flux Schnell but VASTLY different at this point.

Also, I was actually referring to the art style, reminds me of some european comic art but I can't pinpoint it.

>>106371902
how has the furry fucked this up twice now

>>106371902
right is better doe

>alibaba's first official fast lora is paid
wtf

QWEN LIED
CHROMA DIED

This one is especially egregious, but it's the same issue I was having with v50. It "forgets" people and characters and sloppifies the image with that flux schnell look.

>chroma won
sure doesn't look like it

>>106372016
>>106371902
I don't trust these. Last time someone posted comparisons between v48 and v50, their v50 results were so shit I decided to do it myself and produced way better results than their v48 output with v50.

Anyone have working settings for training Qwen loras? Kohya defaults not working well.

>>106372016
>>106372003
>>106372034
>>106371928
>>106371902

this amount of spam for one model only happens when it disappoints the pedophiles

whatever clybius did to his HD flash fp8 completely fucking fried it

Chroma is officially out. Why doesn't it have a category on Civitai yet?

hi all, i am the anon posting comparisons, i was actually running flux schnell

>>106371928
tha's not me, it's the anti-chroma shill.
It's Thorgal.

>>106372075
virtually nobody's made anything for it because they can't decide on which gimped model to train on

>>106372069
This samefagger is insane, he's been doing this for months now, it's like his life depends on nobody using Chroma

>>106372090
Doesn't help there's an anon here insisting v48 is still better despite everyone previously saying Chroma1-HD is the best.

Remember that it's all one schizo, guys. He's trying to divide us, but love (for Chroma) will win.

>>106371554
copechaku is for vramletniggers

>>106372069
What do you mean? Chroma can epsteinesque parties just fine.

bootleg Qwen Image Edit template for actual training
you can kind of cheat the stitched image layout with Qwen Image with basic prompting, then you can do some basic removal on the main scene to cheat the background image and voila, the visual novel template of "insert the character into this scene"

>>106372124
Use whichever is best in your subjective view.

For me when training loras at least, it's either v49 or v48 detail calibrated, I'm leaning towards v49 but I want to do some more art style tests first.

The loras made for v48, v49, detail calibrated etc, will work on Chroma1-HD, just not as well as for the versions they were trained against.

>>106372059
Imao I'm making these to show that HD, while definitely better than v50, still has some of its problems. I'm using a pokemon since it stresses the model and I saw a guy on HF struggling with this as well.

>>106372138
This, we stand united, for Chroma, for the good of mankind, against anti-Chroma schizo faggotry

>>106372090
>>106372166
it's funny how chroma users all have trained "dozens of loras" but only the digital camera and fantasy style loras have been shared

i have trained ONE MILLION loras on chroma. you cannot comprehend how good my loras are. nothing can beat chroma + 15 loras.

>>106372187
i can't share mine and you know why.

>>106372147
80s album cover

>>106372165
you're using the stitched image hack to generate pairs for training?
what training script are you using and what are the settings? musubi supports training edit but doesn't explain anything about setting up the data.

>>106372166
Have you done any testing with Chroma1-Base? https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Base

>>106372232
I'm going to use ai-toolkit, I haven't actually done it yet, I'm just prepping the training data because I'm chasing the white whale of the pure AI visual novel

>>106372238
this is just v48

Has anyone swept Qwen Image to figure out what artist styles it knows, kind of like https://www.downloadmost.com/NoobAI-XL/danbooru-artist/ ?

comfy should be dragged out on the street and shot

>>106372238
I'm pretty sure base is just v48. Could be wrong though.

>>106372187
I've shared several celebrity loras in these threads, Abigal Shapiro, Bryce Dallas Howard, Snood, Barbie Ferrera, Delish probably some more, the catbox links are still there int the archived threads, also shared the Dall-E Pixar style lora, someone else shared cool a Videogame lora

You are probably just trolling, but if not just blame yourself for not being able to read

Once I decide on which version I will train, I will share more

>>106372246
ok, please share your data setup and settings if you get a working result!

That ProChroma anon has been schizoposting and shilling nonstop for months.
Hope for his sake he's a wagecuck doing it for a paycheck and not for free.
This AI stuff moves way too fast to be a brand loyalist.

>>106372238
Yes, I find both v49 and v48 detail calibrated to be a bit better, but it could just be for what I train on

>>106372266
It should just work:
- train a lora of the visual style you want on Qwen Image
- generate image pairs
- remove character from the background
- train Kontext/Qwen Edit on the pairs

as far as the model cares the stitched image is the same as the control image

Chroma is too powerful. I can't handle it. My eyes boiled and melted away long ago from the sheer blinding intensity of my Chroma gens, and I can feel my body starting to fail as the raw power that lodestones has created courses through my body. And once I trained my first few thousand loras? My fate was sealed then. My body, mind, and soul all belong to lodestones. To Chroma.

>>106372293
kek, you are so pathetic

>no one shares Chroma loras
actually yes, they do, pretty much every single lora shared here is for Chroma

>eeeh, well, what now, oh, I will shift to mocking people for training Chroma loras
seriously, you are mentally ill my man, get help

Imagine shilling one model for free when a new one drops every week. Don't marry your checkpoints, anons.

maybe its time for lodestone to create a better workflow and prompt guide with a "quality focused" one too with res2 and bong given how much they improve the model?

>>106372280
are you captioning the control data as instructions, and the result data as statements?

I LOVE COMFY UI.
CLEAN, EFFICIENT, FLEXIBLE, AWESOME

>>106372345
Bong is great, but the slowness makes it hard to test on my potato setup. Maybe meowscarada anon can do it.

>>106372353
survivorUI =/= bestUI

>>106372255
do you think its funny or what
kys yourself

>>106372351
The instructions would be "add the character to the scene, they are sitting" or whatever

>>106372336
This is sad, Chromaschizo. You can't justify your mockery of Chroma so now you've shifted to pretending to like Chroma in order to make us look bad and fight each other. Hate will never win.

Is the QIE default workflow faulty? I can't get it to make any small changes without turning the entire image to weird slop.

>>106372394
no that's just how qwen works

>>106372345
There are more viable samplers/schedulers. Also some have a pretty heavy effect on the final pic (but more artifacted and it sucks for human figures)

>>106372341
He's either a paid shill or a true believer, and I'm not sure which is worse.

>>106372364
It's probably a bot. Just report and ignore.

>>106372402
It isn't just the model. I've seen examples here and elsewhere where this didn't happen and only certain parts of the image were changed. Does anybody have a functional workflow, or is comfy just broken?

what am i doing wrong here? i just want a photorealistic aztec woman but i'm just getting slopped gens with chroma. using reforge ui.
https://files.catbox.moe/hk0nmo.png

>>106372515
take the word "photorealistic" out of the positive prompt. just use "photo".

Why do you think anti chroma people exist?

>>106372515
Just use 'photo of', for extra effect you can use 'film still' or 'professional 35mm photography'

Also you really don't need all those negative prompts, like holy shit

>>106372515
hello fellow ReForgeCHAD

>>106372531
because the model is lacking

>>106372531
There's just you, samefagging across these threads, get help

>>106372515
why the hell are you using "distilled cfg" (and high res distilled)
this isnt flux

Since when can ReForge use Chroma???????? I thought it was abandoned!?!?

>>106372482

After playing around with chroma for a bit, I’m whelmed. In my opinion, it did deliver upon what it was meant to do, but I’m still waiting for that eventual true “next gen” image model that’ll pop up.

>>106372531
Your scheme won't work. We are more united in our use of Chroma than you could possibly imagine. Choose love, not hate.

>>106372515
Set distilled cfg scale to 1

>>106372558
How much would it cost to train a natively nsfw model with qwen-tier prompt comprehension and with unslopped dataset?

>>106372558
it's going to take a finetune to make chroma shine in any particular way and i don't feel like that's going to happen soon, if ever. i had hope that the bigasp guy might try it but he's apparently going with wan 2.2 5b for some reason.

>>106372577
>wan 2.2 5b
lmao why? that model is dogshit

Hello, AntiChromaSchizo here, and it's me. I can assure you that someone is impersonating me since various threads. I'm currently gooning, so I'm not criticizing Chroma *yet*

>>106372558
It was never intended as a 'next gen' image model, the model size should make that rather obvious.

It's meant as a great base model to further finetune / train loras for, and for this it is fantastic.

>>106372573
it would cost more time and money than anyone here could afford.

>>106372580
something about it being more accessible to people since it's smaller and only twice the size of sdxl. i think it's a retarded idea, honestly.

>>106372371
yeah, I mean, are you putting instructions as the captions for the control image dataset, and non-imperative descriptive text for the output image dataset? sorry if I'm phrasing this poorly.

>>106372515
>he doesn't have res_2s and bong tangent
ngmi

>>106372515
idk use ComfyUI? Maybe it's the prompt. Keep in mind CFG is literally a scaled diff between inference of the positive and negative prompt. Imagine the negative as a bad picture that has to be coherently spelled out and not pocket spaghetti of bad words like SDXL. This workflow is native and https://files.catbox.moe/znpgqx.png
>boomerized prompt: This is a photo of a fit 19 year old, beautiful, cute, and sexy South American Aztec woman standing in a dark forest at night. She has long, straight black hair with blunt bangs and brown skin, along with large breasts and wide hips. She is wearing a minimal, earthy-brown strapless bandeau top that covers her breasts and a matching loincloth that hangs from her hips, revealing her midriff, abdomen, and thighs. Holding a large, bloody battle axe, she is looking directly at the camera. The forest background consists of tall, dark pine trees with grass covering the ground. The image evokes a dark, moody atmosphere, emphasized by a deep blue and black color palette that highlights the nighttime setting.

>>106372656
>Chel, is that you ?

>>106372656
damn this is good

>>106372532
not having any negatives made the image worst. please just send some catbox :'(

>>106372656
I don't know Panchovix and Ilyasvel black magic, but the gens in ReForge they are 10x better than in Comfy

>>106372656
>idk use ComfyUI?
never

>>106372580
5b is comically useless. They'll really have to work some voodoo to make that usable.

>>106372698
>remembered that i once made a gen of her

>>106372656
Go figure the Comfy gen would be way better than reForge slop.

>>106372708
Didn't say no negatives, just that you don't need such a huge amount

Here's an example from diffusers: https://huggingface.co/docs/diffusers/main/api/pipelines/chroma

low quality, ugly, unfinished, out of focus, deformed, disfigure, blurry, smudged, restricted palette, flat colors

Im still using nobai vpred. Are these new models like chroma. qwen,and wan good at non realistic images like this one? This prompt was not long and used no loras. Just noobai and small touch ups in gimp.

Can anyone else get a similar result using chroma or qwen with no loras and just using prompts? Its not the best image i know but i have not been able to get close with chroma.

>>106372708
high CFG or wrong sample or you have checked and ReForge Extension without knowing

>>106372737
Based

>>106372558
For me it delivered since 42-3ish and has been hnnng since

>>106372698
>>106372703
ty

>>106372713
>>106372727
Okay

>>106372740
>always has been.jpg

>>106371116
they already know, and have most likely been genning and spamming that shit on the internet using top secret military AI models for over a decade.

>>106372515
>32GB GPU
I hate you, Chroma is for VRAMlets, why dont you use Qwen or Wan?

comfyGODS won

A111GODS won. sdxlGODS won. chroma will not pan out, qwen will not pan out, you will all be using illustrious realistic slopmerges a year from now

>>106372515
Another anon already said it, but "photorealism" is an illustration style and not something you want to include for a photograph. The 1girl prompts are also reiterating too many times. Try something like "voluptuous" to steer it in the direction you want. Your negative list is also too long and SDXL styled. Tags like that can sort of work if you just put in a few, but too many and the model stops caring. If you need a long negative, you need to style it in prose just like the positive.

>>106372656
This is way better. Nice prompt.

>>106372749
noob is still local SOTA for illustrations. neta lumina and chroma are getting close, if neta gets more training and chroma gets an anime finetune. a qwen booru finetune would be the holy grail

>>106372749
For anime and illustration stuff, noob/illus its offspring are still the better choice imo. Smaller, faster, quality outputs for anime type stuff. The larger models are so far better for photo real type stuff, they can do anime and illustration but not as good it seems yet. Plus they’re slower for same size outputs. If you’re just wanting 1girls, just stick with sdxl based models for now. I’m currently all about “one obsession” and hasaku
>inb4 slop

i was indeed using qwen the other day ago but it a pain in the ass to get it to adhere to the prompts. Even qwen image edit was annoying me. I just a sexy aztec girl and qwen was too cucked to get that produce that. used wan2gp ui.

>>106372806
why not use the same technique illustrious used and train a model from scratch for realism only?

>>106372656
>A blurry and low resolution 3D render of a gay fat nazi zombie werewolf, who is shaking deformed paws with a painting of Hitler. Hitler has eye cataracts and broken fingers. Behind them are disfigured anime characters with dead eyes and piercings. His diaper is covered in poop and fur and blood. The frame has a border.

>>106372826
>a pain in the ass to get it to adhere to the prompts
yes, it is clearly very overtrained, you get the same poses / composition basically no matter what you prompt

it's good quality though, so a large finetune to unslop would be great, but it's going to be either very slow or very expensive to train

>>106372754

It might be my scuffed lora influencing my decision, I keep getting duplicated characters and questionable image quality.

>>106372828
Takes time money and interest. Things like base flux and wan and qwen are technically “research projects” with big money funding. They aren’t particularly interested in a better “anime model” as such. And sdxl is old and not interesting to created models off of anymore, outside of individuals trying to make fine tunes and such.

>>106372547
>>106372559
It was a genuine question. I don't know why there are anti chroma people.

My comfy 48GB VRAM workflow:
Make the still with SDXL ReForge, then use Wan2gp to animate it.

Bless all the anons who beta test the jank for us.

Some ask "why no SOTA?"
Because I'd rather have near-instant 4k gens and fast inpainting on SDXL than have to fight with a new bloated model every week.

IT
JUST
WERKS.

>>106371542 (OP)
Oh I got in the collage, neat!

Here's two different seeds that I think are more subjective, but still showcase some of the HD shenanigans. I removed all references to pokemon from the prompt to try and intentionally get the model to shit itself. First one is "waiting in line at a busy fast food restaurant" and the latter is "using the self checkout at a grocery store".

HD is more on-model for the first one, but it sloppifies the image, ignored "waiting in line" and added portrait blur for some reason. Base actually makes it look like a haphazard phone picture, which is what I prompted for.

For the second, while they're both more on model, they both did a pretty bad job with the background. The HD output, as usual, has a vaseline filter on everything. The base output I think did a better job with the layout.

>>106372879
It's the same reason for most problematic/odd behavior; mental illness.

>>106372903
Okay. Why do mentally ill people target chroma over other models?

nunchucka save me

>>106372879
Can't sell licenses or API credits. Local is just marketing and free research for SaaS.

>>106372910
People seem to just pick something and everything else is fake and gay. Even if it doesn’t take away from the thing they picked. Console wars bullshit. Same with the anons here who are anti comfy or anti anything that isn’t comfy, like the chad thing to do is use everything for its different strengths and weaknesses.

ai said comfyui was better

>>106372910
It's likely just one person, and as to why, you would have to ask that person himself.

Hey hey Anon, Anon here.
Been messing around with Qwen (Nunchaku) -> Wan 2.2 Lightning 1 pass upscale a bit on my random 1girl slopmachine.
I'm still playing around with cfg/denoising settings but I think it's promising. It's still sloppy, but I haven't added any of the 'realism' LoRAs yet and still need to tweak the upscaler more.
Box: https://files.catbox.moe/jo6h7f.png

>>106372910
It's just this one guy samefagging, obsessive compulsive behaviour

Probably some person on disability

>>106372939
>It's likely just one person
It's definitely more than one person.

>>106372841
i wanted to give chroma the benefit of the doubt but holyshit even my old cyberrealistic pony gens are far better than the slopped shit i get with chroma. Maybe i should just wait for more reforge updates or better chroma finetunes. Chroma is far from ever dethroning sdxl imo.

>>106372950
Stop samefagging

>>106372933
Lmao did you even read what it told you, doesn’t say that at all

>>106372776
>This is way better. Nice prompt.
Threw it into llm and minor mods
>Format into a human readable paragraph but keep all elements the same

>>106372863
My validation loss went up when I went over 1e-4 lr. Captions are maxed out in length, entirely boomer prompting, indicating the subject's name. I have a minimum image count (no maximum). Basically breaking all the "rules" about lora training

>>106372951
cool story bro

>>106372965
>did you even read what it told you

>reforge
>if you're an impatient zoomer with adhd and want quick fast food tier results with no thought involved
>comfy
>if you're an intelligent professional that wants the highest creative control, automated pipelines and cutting edge workflows

>>106372950
Ok which ones am I?

>>106372933
lmao but Panchovix returned 2 weeks ago, AI have a knoweldge cutoff

>>106372951
the other anon's girl was better. this looks fake

Pretty solid results, desu

>>106372976
>My validation loss
Unless you're training on ~1000+ images, I've found that validation is practically worthless as a quality metric

Training is nowhere near done when it starts to plateu, and then you wait for the next plateu, and if it comes it will be very overtrained

Image sampling during training and / or stopping training to test epochs and then resume is the only reasonable wait to gauge training quality

>>106373025
for
>>106372941

>>106372988
this is a blatant lie
Comfy has the lowest of image gen, it is more technical focused
ReForge it is literaly build to all the artistic process of inapint, etc etc made easyer.

>>106372899
i'm just glad wan2gp is a thing. deepbeepmeep is cooking and very active. Regardless of ui, chroma is just bad.

>>106373078
every single reforge gen looks like fucking shit.
see
>>106372826
>>106372708
>>106372652

meanwhile the comfy gens look fantastic
>>106372656
>>106372754
>>106372976

>>106373187
Hot yet wholesome

i updated my nvidia drivers and now I'm getting OOM in my workflow that worked just fine previously
what in darnation

>>106373249
Rookie mistake

Seriously though, are these beta drivers or something ?

>>106372976 (You)
>>106373034
>I've found that validation is practically worthless
Unfortunate. It works the same for me on ~40 and +1k images. Only difference is epoch duration (obviously). If you put the training image in as eval, then it's a reliable indicator of how memorized the dataset is.

>>106373025
>>106373037
It's promising, for sure.

>>106373265
>If you put the training image in as eval hen it's a reliable indicator of how memorized the dataset is.
Yeah, but that's not really what you're looking for, you want it to learn the patterns of a person or style but not spit out near 1:1

Overall I'm disappointed with eval, it's better than nothing if you don't have access to image training samples, like with Diffusion-Pipe, but that's about it

>>106373256
went from 551.86 which is like 1.5 years old at this point to 580.88
not beta

>>106373301
>abandoning your trusty 551.86 for some trollop passing by
You got what you deserved

>>106373321
lesson learned i guess

>>106373187
>Yeah, but that's not really what you're looking for
Like it or not, you're literally memorizing the (latent) dataset by minimizing the difference each step. That's why lora sameface happens.
>it's better than nothing if you don't have access to image training samples, like with Diffusion-Pipe, but that's about it
It's the only objective measure of how well the model is memorizing the training set.
Do you though anon. I'm gonna go game

>>106373267
>>106372941
any reason to use Wan specifically for the upscale? And why not just use Wan completely for the initial t2i, are there any particular areas where Qwen outdoes Wan for your purposes?

>>106373356
for >>106373289

And >>106373187 was kino

>>106373356
>That's why lora sameface happens.
No, that is overtraining

>It's the only objective measure of how well the model is memorizing the training set
You don't want the model to memorize the training set, again that is overtraining, you want it to memorize the patterns it finds in the data set, so that it can fantasize / hallucinate variations of those patterns in noise

Overtraining means it will start spitting out near 1:1 images of your training data set, that is utterly pointless

>>106372806
>>106372826
damn, i was hoping there would be some improvement since noobAI was released. Does the context edit tech at least work okay on anime style images?

Oh well, guess ill go back to my 1girl anime posting.

On a side note has there been any movement on getting an /ai/ board?

>>106372900
HD trying real hard to look like schnell

messed up the neg

For joycaption, do you pick "stable diffusion prompt" option or just descriptive?

How do I transfer via controlnet using image to image?

>>106373749
greta anon is that you

>>106373756
whomst?

>>106373631
The text is already in English. Here's a rewrite in imageboard format:

Great detail and model but to finetune this we need 4 madmen like Lodestone but for anime instead of furry. They would fail anyway though. Only consolation is that NovelAI V5 will definitely burn hundreds of thousands of dollars using this as base model.

Will we ever get a VACE for Wan 2.2?

>>106373800
Probably but in the meantime you can use 2.1 vace with the 2.2 low noise model

>>106373800
I assume so. Vace for 2.1 is already still pretty relevant. 2.2 will likely be mind blowing.

>>106373830
Have you noticed any improvements?

>C-chroma is fine, bros
>Y-you just rip the bong tangent
>...Oh and you gotta use this weird sampler...
>Oh and you gotta use this other one too
>OH and this weird thing here.
>Then you need to completely img2img the image in a better model.

>>106373837
It is better, yeah. Not sure about if using only the low noise model has any side effects for different kind of gens, I only gen anime stuff personally. Also the improvements to motion are not as noticeable for me because I use pretty heavy vace conditioning that doesn't leave much room for creativity

>>106373384
I'm going to stop arguing with a person who struggles to find meaning in a measure. Enjoy your night anon

>>106373686
For what? I like descriptive casual over descriptive

>>106373876
100% native Comfy Chroma workflow here. Keep trying though

>>106373876
>aiee I am not locked to just euler?? save me nofreewillman

>>106373876
Dude, we get already you dislike the the model. Spamming this shit every thread won't make people stop using it. There are some pretty valid reasons to think the model is shit, but there are reasons why people use it too.

>>106373905
>100% native Comfy Chroma workflow here. Keep trying though

I-is that 1 girl on a BOAT?! I kneel to Chroma's prompt adherences and cohesive structure.

>>106373916
that's pretty fucking nice anon

>>106373950
Thanks

>>106373916
catbox

spoonfeed me on the best Qwen Image settings, right now

>>106373905
>For what? I like descriptive casual over descriptive
Wan and chroma. Surely the shit like "The entire composition conveys a sense of immense magical power and dynamic action" is just token waste and has no impact?

>>106373964
the metadata is in the png tho
>>106373960
i hadn't heard of that stabilizer and spo lora before, do they really make that much difference in detail? i'll have to try them now

>>106373971
>the metadata is in the png tho
4chan has been stripping all metadata for like 2 or so years now

>>106373929
>Implying it's just me.

>>106373971
Futz with them. I originally was using the SPO one at a lower weight, but with the models I've been currently using 1.0 works better. For the stabilizer, do A/B testing - it seems to heavily depend on the base model, also there's other versions of it available.
>>106373977
4chan does, but I think there's other spots the data can be embedded that isn't stripped.

>>106373977
not if you use a definitely not sketchy addon

>>106373969
People think midjourney and ChatGPT prompts somehow translate it feels like. Those make sense on there cause it passes them through the llm first to actually parse what you want, not sure if local models know or care about such descriptiveness. I mean maybe they do, but I haven’t seen anything like it.

>>106374056
Flash?

How do I train a lora?

>>106374135
You have to use something called comfyui

>>106374148
Okay, how do I do it in comfyui?

>>106374160
You use the nodes

>>106374166
Okay, what nodes?

>>106374171
i hate, despise and loathe how SHIT wan is at cutting, punching or anything remotely violent.
look how pathetic that cutting motion is. or anytime you want two characters to fight, they just gently poke each other. fuck you wan for not letting my waifu commit hyperviolence

>>106374188
wan needs to watch some food tv

>>106374169
the custom ones that don't come with comfyui

>>106374188
prease tsink ov de investols!

>>106374014
those two loras are magic wtf. those are going to be fun to play around with.

The following is an actual post from Lodestones on the discord.

>"Rrrr grrruf!" *Nuzzles you* *Pisses on floor and hides under table when you get mad*
>He then proceeds to provide a link to the latest Chroma mystery epoch.

>>106374243
I'd suggest also looking into Smoothed Energy Guidance/etc. It can enhance output, but does require quite a bit of tuning to not create artifacts

>>106374237
Okay, where do I get them?

This one was deep in an unexpected way, lol

What is up with the original Matrix Trilogy? When the movies came out, techies said it was a Hollywood fantasy representation of computing, and that (algorithmic) computing and AI didn't work the way it's portrayed in the films. But today, it's eerily accurate in its depiction, basically, of AI artifacts, prompt injection hacks, and various other aspects of contemporary early-stage AI tech.

For example, the "deja vu" AI artifact that is a tell that they're in the matrix. This is like twinning. Or the unnatural movement of the Agents, it actually looks like a fucked up Wan gen. Or the portrayal of the "digital rain" text behind the matrix simulation, diffusion LLMs actually look like that.

Did the Wachowski brothers have some kind of secret sneak peek at top-secret military AI tech at the time?

>>106374298
>Did the Wachowski brothers have some kind of secret sneak peek at top-secret military AI tech at the time?

What do you think made them troon out?

>>106371729
This is art

>>106374188
just train hyperviolence loras, dude. wan2.2 is fucking awesome with motions

>>106374283
the internet

Here's my 3:32 long Fat Miku and Rin porno: https://files.catbox.moe/hk6l1h.mp4

>>106374333
honestly have considered it. idk bout training wan with 24vram and 32sysram will go though without gimping the dataset to <5sec.

i really really want to see an anime girl kamehame a hole into a building

>>106374354
I hate how illustrated fatties can look like absolute dick exploding sex, but you seem em irl and it’s limp dick central. Unrealistic expectations of women i say

>>106374368
It's the face. Fat ages you horribly. Illustrated and CGI fatties give you all of the sexo of fatties without the IRL consequences of being gross.

>>106374298
chroma on same prompt, for laffs

>>106374426
>49
bruh

>>106374356
what about 2.2 5b? some 5b loras are impressive

>>106374434
49 is the best one though? or did another one of the furry's random shitmixes surpass it?

The fact nobody can agree what version of Chroma isn't fucked should tell you something.

>>106374438
eh i don't know. i played with 5b when it came out but wasn't impressed and haven't really looked more into it since.

>>106374459

This is the only place I've seen people recommend 49 and 50 considering they both got retconned by lode himself.

>>106374488
old 50 should def not be used. the "new" 50 is the "HD", with "base" being (i think) based on v48

>>106374488
could be a troll/hater just muddying the water

>>106374506
>a troll

Oh so now you admit there is more than one.

I for one still enjoy noobai derived sloppa. This model is called “2dn nai” not sure what it actually is meant to be some kind of combination I’m sure.

>>106374504

As long as lode continues to provide zero documentation, this confusion will go on. Reddit and civit barely know the model exists, and their "1girl, feet, masterpiece" prompts won't work.

Kinda crazy how loadofshitstones dropped Chroma training the moment Qwen came out.

>>106374564
kinda crazy how that's not even remotely true.

>>106374559
yeah i like the project but the miscommunication will end it very quickly.

lodestones just said on discord that he got the funding for qwen

is it unironically over for instagram hoes?
I just set this shit up tonight and what I'm getting out of comfy now could basically just be an average insta feed with how shopped they all are anyway

>>106374520
Without prompting clothes colour it knows Star Trek is either yellow, red, or sometimes the wrong colour of blue, neat. But it also likes to give massive tits when there’s no prompt about breasts or breast size or anything. Horny mix.

>>106374589
But ST has blue uniforms? Also holy slop face.

>>106374585
Images alone won’t wipe em out part of the goon sadly is feeling that parasocial connection with “a real girl”. Once gpts and llms can convincingly be a vapid instathot then maybe

>>106374559
this, also ai jeets cannot absolute inpaint or fix anything related to gens, they wont touch chroma because they cannot use it for their grifts since chroma still struggles with hands, thats why they love wan and the instagirl lora, all they want is some model that generate social media pics for their ai influencer

>>106374573
>kinda crazy how that's not even remotely true.

Hmm yeah I guess the wording "The moment" was untrue. But it's also obvious he's ditching support for schnell and jumping to Qwen asap.

>>106374444
48 = base
hd = base + hires training
49 and 50 were the "let me throw some shit into the training and see what sticks" epochs which lodestone quickly dropped (49 was never a thing to begin with, he went from 48 to 50 and released a bunch of crap in like 3 days which some called "49"

>>106374596
Yes but it doesn’t give me the blues that would be “correct”
>slop
I fuckin love Arby’s and Burger King, you think I’d have better taste in media? Kek

What samplers work well with flash? Preferably native ones. Heun gives me shitty results for realistic images.

>>106374600
I understand the loneliness aspect but I don't understand how parasocial paypigging does anything to fill that hole for them even temporarily.

>>106374605
i'm really not sure what you mean.
he isn't abandoning chroma and hasn't got anything to do with "schnell". he did say he is going to try and make the qwen vision model work with chroma which would be great all around.

How does hiresfix differ from using the upscaling scripts (animesharp, raeslrgan...)? And should I care?

>>106374603
prompt for that lighting?

>>106374627
>and hasn't got anything to do with "schnell"
Clearly you are uneducated on this subject. Chroma is a finetune of flux schenll.

>>106374585
hello saar, please do the needful, I'll make my own ai influencer and make money with onlyfans sar

>>106374614
this shit looks like it would set my computer on fire after chugging for 8 hours for 5% rendered

>>106374641
damn your girl is hot bro she reminds me of abbey from ncis

>>106374649
Nice door handle bro

>>106374640
why are you being obtuse on purpose? you say schnell even though chroma is pretty fucking far from being schnell anymore. do you feel clever yet?

Saars, pls no more AI influncer

I want to transfer the right pose to the left character, or something approximating it, how would I do this?

>>106374616
> don't understand how parasocial paypigging does anything
Yeah I don’t really either but it doesn’t give. That’s part of the goon as stupid as it sounds.

>>106374663
How long did it take you to google that to make sure I wasn't lying to you?
Lodeofshitstones has the green light to train on Qwen now. Going forward it's all gonna be Qwen.

>>106374657
its european

>>106374520
All i know how to use is noobAI. Seems ill be stuck with it for a long time.

Based gens ITT

>>106374631
im using the amateur photo lora that some anon posted a few days ago

>>106374671
ooh i see. so you're like.. just fully insane. it's people like you that make this general unbearable at times.

>>106374686
do you still have a link to it? it looks great

>>106374690
You think I'm insane but time will prove me the last sane man on earth.

>>106374629
Wrong general, snowflake

>>106374680
Honestly I’m still happy with just base noobai and a few style/fix Loras. It can still do neat stuff, picrel. Yeah yeah sloppawoppa whatever, I like it.

>>106374714
shutup retard

>>106374699
https://files.catbox.moe/hn8034.safetensors

I think is this one, otherwise I recommend you to search in older threads

>>106374583
So now time to wait another year for qwen-chroma? And by the time that's out, we will have yet another new model that is better than qwen. Never ends

>>106374739
he's lying. lode didn't remotely say anything about that. he's too busy playing with his pixelspace model or some shit.

>>106374753
yea i just checked the discord but didnt feel like responding back. no idea why anon just straight up makes shit up for no reason.

>>106374758
>>106374753
Man you prolls are gonna be shocked when it turns out in a few weeks that I was absolutely right. You know nothing about vibes.

This is the same place that will throw a hissyfit over some noodles

>>106374788
framerate makes me nauseous desu

>>106374796
>framerate makes me nauseous
Maybe stop being a soppy cunt?

>>106371554
I still gotta try that with my 2070. Someone posted about being able to run it at low vram use with --reserve-vram and losing almost no speed.

>>106374788
i don't know what those are but i want to eat them so badly.

>>106374796
interpolation is for weak pathetic boys

>>106374667
feed QIE that split screen image you posted. say something like "this is kan e senna on the left. show her in the pose of the woman on the right."

First time trying to use WAN 2.2. Any clue what's causing the image ghosting/beer vision?

"steps": 8,
"cfgscale": 1.0,
"aspectratio": "1:1",
"width": 1024,
"height": 1024,
"sidelength": 1024,
"sampler": "euler",
"scheduler": "simple",
"initimagecreativity": 0.0,
"sigmashift": 5.0,
"preferreddtype": "default",
"automaticvae": true,
"model": "wan2.2_i2v_high_noise_14B_fp8_scaled",
"videomodel": "wan2.2_i2v_high_noise_14B_fp8_scaled",
"videoswapmodel": "wan2.2_i2v_low_noise_14B_fp8_scaled",
"videoswappercent": 0.5,
"videoframes": 73,
"videosteps": 8,
"videocfg": 1.0,
"videoformat": "h264-mp4",
"videofps": 24,
"trimvideostartframes": 4,
"loras": [
"Wan2_2-I2V-A14B-4steps-lora-rank64-Seko-V1_High",
"Wan2_2-I2V-A14B-4steps-lora-rank64-Seko-V1_Low"
],
"loraweights": [
"1",
"1"
],
"lorasectionconfinement": [
"5",
"3"
],
"negativeprompt": "",

>>106373004
who cares if it looks fake as long as it isn't fucking ugly

>>106374847
What is QIE?

>>106374857
idk why that anon deleted their msg but he prob meant qwen image edit

>>106374882
Pretend I'm extremely retarded and only started using AI about a week ago, what is qwen and how do I use it in comfyui?

>>106374892
>>106374892
>>106374892
>>106374892

Been gone for a while where do I start with stuff now? Was enjoying noob vpred but want to experiment with other styles and models. I assume as 8gb vramlet most stuff is beyond me... Is wan thru wan2gp for t2i reasonable? And for chroma what fucking version do I download? I see silveroxide has gguf for 48, 50, 50 annealed, and flash and maybe others have more idk

>>106374889
NTA but Qwen is Alibaba's AI line. Alongside Text Generation they also have txt2img and img2img that they recently came out with.

For using it in Comfy start with the tutorials on the ComfyUI documentation and go from there:

Txt2img: https://docs.comfy.org/tutorials/image/qwen/qwen-image

Img2Img:
https://docs.comfy.org/tutorials/image/qwen/qwen-image-edit

>>106374906

48 and HD are the most up to date models for Chroma. Wan can work if you keep your resolution low and have at least 32gb of ram.

>>106374906
>8gb
Anon while it’s technically possible for you to run large models like wan and qwen, dear god it would be slow like hammering nails into your balls. Just stick to nai/illus/pony stuff unless you absolutely must have video.

>>106374629
i think it operates in latent space, so its able to generate more detail with a second pass, retaining overall composition/whatever

>>106374488
thats just one retard for 49, and for 50, it was the best for no body horror previously but more slopped

>>106374361
oh hey i listened to that album

>>106374368
I'll be doing some non-bbw stuff next. I think the hot part is how wan makes them look at each other, and also titties being played with. Titties are just mesmerizing.