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Anonymous No.106380483 >>106380521 >>106380978 >>106381262 >>106383034 >>106383115 >>106386035 >>106386045 >>106386100
Fact check do LLMs really lead to water shortages?
Before people start repeating this ad nauseam, how true is this really?
Anonymous No.106380521 >>106380756
>>106380483 (OP)
>could deplete drinking sources around illinois
so they're going to drain lake michigan? I'd like to see that.
Anonymous No.106380721
bump for curiosity
Anonymous No.106380756
>>106380521
well please... let's not get carried away here
i like our lakes
termux-termite !!1GSw688pHqQ No.106380877 >>106381027
So on a tech related note OP' screen shart could have been saved as a lossless webp or lossless jpeg xl with both saving astronomical amounts of space.

lossless webp = ~47% smaller
https://files.catbox.moe/3stvqb.webp

lossless joeg xl = ~54% smaller
https://files.catbox.moe/5fswqr.jxl
Anonymous No.106380978
>>106380483 (OP)
No. My local LLMs use less electricity than most modern video games.
Anonymous No.106380985 >>106384973
sounds like a load of bullshit to me.
GPU are powered by electricity, not water.
Anonymous No.106381027 >>106381152
>>106380877
I just take screenshots and upload with my macbook :)
termux-termite !!1GSw688pHqQ No.106381152
>>106381027
Which is pretty retarded because apple does in fact back up jpeg xl with both OS and software support in both iphones and macbooks.

BUT I guess selling computers with components permanently welded in place is a higher priority than helping us remove bloat.
Anonymous No.106381262 >>106381496
>>106380483 (OP)
The datacenters need massive amounts of water for cooling. So if you're in an arid area (one of those places that has laws against watering your lawn in the summer) and they build a data center near you, your community is pretty much fucked
Anonymous No.106381496 >>106382561
>>106381262
Is it worth it for the studio ghibli pfps?
Anonymous No.106382561 >>106385028
>>106381496
Well, no sane person runs ai datacenters in my country because of the astronomically high power prices, hence we outsource the slop generation to retard countries that like to waste their resources on this retarded shit.
Anonymous No.106383034 >>106383343
>>106380483 (OP)
It's real but I don't see why they can't figure out how to make it a closed system
Anonymous No.106383115
>>106380483 (OP)
>could
Anonymous No.106383343
>>106383034
We have closed loop systems. The cooling towers are fucknormously big with construction costs twice as large.

AI is about being as cheap as possible. It’s not profitable even after stealing centuries worth of artist’s work. They literally just have to pay for electricity and some GPUs. You think the bean counters want to pay extra money to be environmentally conscious? LOL
Anonymous No.106384973 >>106386057
>>106380985
you are a fucking idiot, what the fuck.
unless you depend on nuclear energy, eolic or solar power, then the water has a lot to do witth your energy, you fucking nigger.
And, what the fuck do you think they use to cool servers that massive? you fucking retarded idiot
Anonymous No.106385028
>>106382561
>we outsource the slop generation to retard countries that like to waste their resources on this retarded shit.
War... has changed.
Anonymous No.106386035 >>106386057
>>106380483 (OP)
AI datacenters use water cooling. To cool anything with water you will have to evaporate it because you need to get the high temperature out of the water somehow. There are better fluids used for transferring heat, so when they use water it’s because water is cheap and they need it to evaporate.

On the other hand AI programs are getting cheaper and more efficient every day. Lot of the companies offering free services like ChatGPT most likely use heavily distilled version for most stuff that is comparable to running local LLM, which is less computationally demanding then average AAA game. The reason why the costs keep rising is because of retarded reasoning models which usually aren’t distilled and run fuckload of tokens out of your view. Basically cost per token is going down extremely fast, but retarded models keep increasing tokens per prompt. O3 model from OpenAI costs ridiculous money, and Grok 4 heavy is even worse.
Anonymous No.106386045
>>106380483 (OP)
of course its not true you fucking retard. even aside from how retarded it is, you havent realized that libtards are wrong about literally everything yet?
Anonymous No.106386057 >>106386079
>>106384973
>>106386035
>evaporation destroys H2O
Anonymous No.106386079
>>106386057
No one ever said that evaporation destroys H2O sweetie
it does however, per the claim, deplete drinking sources
as humans are unable to drink evaporated water vapor
YOU may be special in more ways than one in that you can though, i dunno
Anonymous No.106386100
>>106380483 (OP)
Just do what xAI does.

Take sewage water
Build treatment plant
Use water for cooling

Most of the US do not use sewage water for drinking, even if its treated. If companies cant do that, then thats their fault.

If its a grid issue, again do what xAI does. Built their own power plants. Have battery power inbetween to smooth out the electricity demand load so as to not overload the grid with huge spikes.

I dont understand what the problem is.