Thread 106401392

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards. Issues still reported & latest BIOS doesn't protect new CPUs.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Workstation: 5090, 5060Ti 16GB, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P, ASUS XG259CS
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), XG32UCWMG (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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>News & Rumors
Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 update may cause SSD failures; DRAMless SSDs are more vulnerable.
If you have a potentially vulnerable SSD, revert Windows update, disable automatic Windows update, & use Registry Editor to set 64 MB HMB allocation policy (or disable HMB).
https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

I'm gonna cum so hard to my wife Shorekeeper on my OLED 4k display!

>>106397315
Fantastic.

>>106401433
nice, don't forget to properly apply your matte coating!

>>106401433
>shorekeeper
Why your wife sound like a dark souls boss?

>>106401469
He meant "Shokie".

>>106401392 (OP)
kot is so much nicer to see than gay tranime shit. Have a lovely day, anon.

>>106401392 (OP)
Why do you have a dead cat on your PC?

some builds are just so crazy...guy said he already bought everything too

>>106401593
> that AIO
Anon..?

>>106401593
>DDR5-5600 on a 265K

>>106401593
>buying windows
good goyim

>>106401433
>Wuthering Waves still crashes on Nvidia

>>106401593
>CL46 DDR5-5600
>overpriced 240mm AIO
>overpriced SSD @ PCIe 3
>boughting windows OEM dvds

>>106401710
It does on AMD too with RTX enabled.

Interesting Takeaways:

>AMD is smoother than Nvidia
>Nvidia uses way less power than AMD
>Despite AMD using more power its the cooler and quieter running card
>FSR4 looks better than DLSS4 but FSR4 requires Optiscaler injection

>>106401593
that computer will definitely computer

>>106401705
Man arguably has more sense than 95% of the market.
I would make a bet more than half the general instability issues people have with custom PCs have a root cause of crappy EXPO/XMP memory but gets blamed on windows.

>>106401740
>and quieter running card
No fan RPM displayed in that image; the warmer GPU generally has a milder fan curve, you can see this with the different 9070 XTs tested.
Not to mention that 9070 XT is running faster (imperceptibly faster) because the tester has increased the power limit beyond AIB's stock settings.

are OEM processors covered by same warranty as boxed ones?

>>106401860
No

>>106401842
almost every 5070ti has annoying coil whine anyways lol the fan is irrelevant

so hard to choose

>>106401875
You probably haven't even physically seen a 5070 Ti to comment about coil whine.
GPUs that boost higher (9070/XTs) stresses the VRM harder, they will generate more coil whine (more current flowing through the VRM).
https://old.reddit.com/r/radeon/comments/1j7oxsh/coil_whine_on_9070_xt/
https://old.reddit.com/r/radeon/comments/1jluslq/any_9070_without_coil_whine/
https://old.reddit.com/r/radeon/comments/1jfb0y2/9070_xt_nitro_coil_whine/
https://old.reddit.com/r/radeon/comments/1ldlv8q/coil_whine_asrock_steel_legend_9070_xt/

>>106401740
I don't know how they do it but it's insane how much less power Nvidia GPUs always need at the same performance level as amd. And they aren't brute forcing efficiency by using a massive die at low voltages either. They're using an 83% enabled 380mm2 die versus amd's full 360mm2 die and only uses like 65% of AMD's power at the same performance. It feels like power saving features are not even a consideration for AMD and they simply ship out their silicon as soon as it runs programs at full speed without crashing or artifacts.

>>106401868
so if I buy a tray processor, put it into asrock card and it burns, retailer won't probably give a fuck?

>>106401897
make a budget for your PC

>>106401931
The retailer might have to care. AMD don't and can tell you to sort everything through the retailer only.

>>106401925
It's the history of AMD Radeon.
RX 480 was on a more advanced 12nm node, with a larger chip, and higher transistor density compared to the 1060 GB.

>>106401931
The retailer only has to care if they built the system with a tray CPU and sold it to you. In your case, buying a tray CPU and building it yourself? Both AMD and the retailer don't have to give a fuck.

SN850X is on a pretty decent sale on Newegg rn. Picked up a 4TB

OK guys, no bs time: 9070xt or 5070ti for 4k gayming? Money is a non-issue, I can afford both. I'm ok with non-native obviously

>>106401979
>4k
>money non issue
7900 xtx or 4090

>>106401967
rats, I knew it's a trap
I save 25$ by buying asrock and have spend that back on a box because it will explode in 3 months

>>106402006
No

>>106401785
right, the issue is crappy memory kits, like a 5600 kit from crucial
DDR5-8000 works on almost any board with a 265K, the memory controller is great

>>106401979
I don't think 12gb is enuff for 4k
you can wait for 5070 super
and it will probably be priced tier above 9070 xt
so I would buy radeon

Why can't I use a TV as a monitor while having a good GPU? I notice literal glitches happening, or is it cause I switched from 165 Hz to 60 Hz?

>>106402050
Theyre both 16gb vram

>>106402020
>>106402020
The only other option for 4k is wait for the 24gb 5080 if you dont want something old and power hungry

>>106402072
>16gb
>4k card
Are they 10 years old?

>>106402058
you can
main difference is that TVs have bad response times and funny visual enhancing features that you can't turn off that add even more

>>106402074
>>106402006
How good is the 7900xtx actually? The asrock card is only 50€ more than the pny 5070 ti where I live

>>106402085
I have variable refresh Rate on my tv though, so I thought that would help.

>>106402072
whoops
I'm dumb, it was 5070
no one ever got confused by current naming schemes

I put together a nas build for my parents. It doesn't include the hdds yet. What do you think?


CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor (€75.18 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock A520M-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (€96.50 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 16 GB (1 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL22 Memory (€47.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN750 SE 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€59.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Jonsbo N2 Mini ITX Desktop Case (€140.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS SGX (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply (€149.97 @ Amazon)
Total: €568.64

>>106402108
I like Jonsbo cases

>>106402102
its fine for gaming, but it loses to a 5070ti unless VRAM becomes an issue.

>>106401979
9070 XT if you're willing to use Optiscaler to set up FSR4 upscaling for unsupported games. FSR4 support for Vulkan is pending.
https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/technologies/fidelityfx/supported-games.html

For the price of a 5070 Ti Gaming Trio (good model, but $840), you can buy any of the best 9070 XT in the US.

>>106402084
You can count the number of games that need more than 16gb at 4K max settings on one hand

>>106402106
also physical pixel size is different, same as with phones
you are not meant to sit right in front of them

>>106402102
>Much better than a 5080 in raw power
>worse ray tracing perf than the 5070
>AMD tier AI gimicks (worse than nvidia)

>>106402128
>>106402144
>>106402133
What choice would you guys make if you HAD to pick now? I might replace them with the super variant if they're not giga overpriced

>>106402029
The Curical kit is JEDEC
All XMP/EXPO kits are going to be inherently more unstable since they are overclocks from the original speeds out of the DRAM fab.
There is a reason the shit is limited to custom PCs and a handful of boutique builders willing to warranty it.

Chuck your "8000mhz" memory from your favorite DIMM vendor in a million PCs and you will still see massively higher rates of failure compared to 5600Mhz JEDEC.

>>106402165
5070 ti is relatively affordable and amd isnt cheap enough to skip having nvidia features

>>106402165
If you plan to buy your way out of vram limits later with a super then go for the nvidia so you won't have to switch drivers when you upgrade.

>>106402139
yea but i like big, idk i'd buy a widescreen if i had the cash but then this TV would be useless.

>>106402165
Get the cheaper card if you're going to resell it. I'd get the $720 Hellhound 9070 XT.
Worst case, you'll get around $500~600 for it. AMD isn't releasing a 24GB variant that would affect its resale value.
There are no 24Gbit GDDR6 chips that will make a 24GB config easy to make.

>>106402187
>All XMP/EXPO kits are going to be inherently more unstable
not true at all
i would trust a binned hynix 8000 kit more than a trash tier micron 5600 kit
motherboard manufacturers optimize for hynix on DDR5
(obviously it's different if you're putting it in a laptop or something but that's not what we're talking about, this is /pcbg/)

>>106402165
I would get the 9070XT because when the Super cards come out everyone is gonna sell their 50 series cards and a 9070xt will stand out in the marketplace better

>>106402165
If you can get an ASUS Prime 5070 Ti for $750, get it over the $720 Hellhound.
Gigabyte & PNY's base MSRP models should be okay if they addressed the QC issues (thermal gel for Gigabyte, and rattling fans for PNY).

how many people are running a 9800X3D with a 5070/9070XT and is it worth it

>>106402144
>>Much better than a 5080 in raw power
Maybe in raw power draw, kek.
7900 XTX owners are always coping hard with their cherry-picked games.
I'd be upset too if Sony decided RDNA3 isn't good enough for their PlayStation toy.

>>106402144
>Much better than a 5080 in raw power
absolute tranny delusion, that’s put it at a 5090

>>106402267
>cherry picked cope
No U

>>106402254
9800x3d + 9070xt is the current normie combo. prebuilts are shipping with it even.

>>106402219
It is true
You just dont know how this shit works
Do you see Asus in their pre-builts putting in 8000mhz RAM? They have no reason not to right? They are expensive enough, they have the expertise in memory compatibility but those systems get "trash tier" memory anyway because it works and they are selling PCs that are expected to work.

>>106402285
*4090

>>106402288
Still coping, enjoy the -20 FPS FSR4 @ 4K performance penalty.

>>106402312
>FSR4
Your coping at the wrong market .
No one who buys the 7900xtx is doing so to run AI gimicks

>>106402254
this is ps6 but pc

>>106402326
Not at all, there's plenty of 7900 XTX and other RDNA3 card owners still begging for an FSR4 port.

>>106402298
>You just dont know how this shit works
you think you know how this works but you don't
high end CPUs are expected to be paired with high end memory: motherboard manufacturers will tune voltages, drive strengths, terminations and skews for hynix
a good hynix kit will always give you the least headaches on any DDR5 platform
they'll throw one or two crucial kits in the QVL just for show, but in reality they don't give a fuck
>Do you see Asus in their pre-builts putting in 8000mhz RAM?
i don't know, i don't pay attention to prebuilts
they could certainly do it with a 265K
>those systems get "trash tier" memory anyway because it works
lmao i know someone who bought one of those crappy crucial kits for his i5-13400 and the system couldn't even get into windows
never cheap out on RAM

lol window retards still waiting for fsr4 and fixes when it works better on linux than it ever will on windows

>>106402394
fsr is retarded though so who cares. I'll just deal with 1080p and not worry about FPS.

>>106402394
FSR4 RDNA3 compatibility's working really well on Linux; the performance penalty basically relegates a 7900 XTX to a 1440p gaming card.

>>106402327
soulless

>>106402390
Share photos and stuff, but don't doxx yourself.

what cooler is this

>>106402533
pccooler rz820

>>106402533
the ugly one

>>106401534
Aesthetics.

>>106402533
Click on a random PC builder youtuber with lots of RGB lights in their room and I'm sure they are shilling this or something like this

>>106402415
with latest mesa it basically works better than xess 2.

7700xt = 1080p
7800xt = 1440p
7900+ = 4k

Wtf is even the point of rebar? Every game with it whitelisted, I go into profileinspector and disable, and suddenly my 1% lows are doubled
What is this for? What am I missing?

>>106402596
>It's actually good.
HWCooling.net doesn't give out top-notch ratings that often.
I guess getting replacement fans might be annoying.

>>106402619
no amount fancy camera shots with edm music can save how ugly that look though, it's more beige than white

>>106402661
sam > rebar
sam is amd exclusive
rebar is nvidias fallback and sucks dick
with sam your cpu memory and gpu memory are perfectly in sync this gives a huge boost in latency but the downside is if your ram or gpu is unstable you will quickly notice those "driver timeouts" and crashes.

>>106402390
Make sure when you take a picture your face is clearly visible in a reflection + shipping information is seen in the background.

I just got my Samsung Odyssey G5 G50D. Instantly better than the old Acer shit I had. Much brighter, similar color profile at stock (e.g. I like it instantly instead of tweaking it for 3 hours), larger, larger resolution, 180 fucking Hz vs 60 Hz. Good shit.
Turned off local dimming and HDR like online guides suggested, because they're apparently poorly implemented and detrimental.

>>106402724
hdr requires miniled or oled

then local dimming is bizarre inclusion on some of these monitors. Theres like 8 edgelit zones or some shit. Whats the point

>>106402764
comfy

>>106402724
The emulated sRGB preset is good enough for most people.
But you need a custom profile if you're doing color-critical work.

>>106402694
>Radeon schizo ranting about SAM/ReBar when GeForce chips have far more low-level on-die cache, and rely less on ReBar as a consequence.
Just look at the performance overlay on >>106401740 9070 XT uses nearly 15% more VRAM capacity to render the same scene.
That's SAM for you.

>>106402694
>>106402807
All of this is fair enough but I still don't understand under what scenario is rebar supposed to help anything? Because I have literally never seen a game run better with it on.

>>106402490
what stuff
a thorough examination will be done and I will either conclude it passable OR shit
man I should really have gone irl to a place before they removed the 4k 27" Qdoled demo unit, maybe 27" is better, idk
this is what happen when you procrastinate things
I even had the thought in my mind that they might have it there, but I did not know
it's like I'm clairvoyantmaxxing, getting scary

>>106402696
the duality of man

>>106402619
they are shilling AIOs with anime GIFs playing on them

>>106402838
rebar generally works for directstorage games like horizon and ratchet. everything else it sucks

Getting a new monitor, would buying a mini-led stop IPS glow or am I fucked unless I get an OLED?

>>106402838
It's because GeForce GPUs don't need to rely on that optional PCIe feature as much as Radeon or Arc chips.
A 5070 has more L1 and L2 cache than a 9070 XT (L0, L2). Different GPUs have different performance bottlenecks.
RDNA is rumored to increase the on-die L2 cache capacity; we'll see how SAM scales with those GPUs.

How are Silverstone PSUs? I like their cases but are the PSUs any good?

>>106402900
only oled stops it

>>106402905
Not as good as their cases but nothing wrong with them

>>106402919
I see. I was looking to get one of their mATX cases since they were great whenever I used to them to move an old rig from a larger case to a smaller one and saw they also make PSUs that are 80+ gold and cheaper than others in the same range.

>>106401740
Insanity that you try to twist that into a win somehow. You can't even reliably measure a difference that small especially in the lows on an engine that stutters out the ass like UE5
>cooler
Yeah because on the 5070ti the fans aren't even spinning
>FSR4 looks better
Uh huh, I'm sure. Game uses an old version of dlss, if they're already modding in fsr why not force transformer model?

How Razer Screws Customers | Hardware, Software, & Support Failures

https://youtu.be/KhfqhCxqpQ8

Holy based I've been waiting for this day

>>106401925
They would actually need more power than they’re using here because the 5070ti isn’t matching the performance level of the 9070xt, which has over 20% 1% and .1% lows. The Nvidia driver overhead thing is real, though I didn’t pay much attention to it at first, admittedly.

Yes it's from just one retail chain in Germany that literally nearly went bankrupt this year but the numbers speak for themselves

>>106402944
Isn't it at least a decade late though?

>>106402962
microcenter florida
9070xt all sold out
nobody touching 5080
5070ti still in stock as well but not as much

>>106402944
My Basilisk V3 Pro started double clicking in less than a year

>>106402970
I don't know why anyone would buy a 5080 or how the 5080 is holding its ridiculous price hikes.

You are all wasting your money

>>106402962
Only small-scale PC building businesses and DIY builders buy boxed CPUs.
Most DIY PC builders are assembling a gaming PC.
It's not surprising to see better gaming CPUs & platforms are outselling the inferior ones.

>>106402965
Almost everything GN makes is a decade late
It's just that everyone was otherwise afraid to talk about it because every "tech journalist" relies on privileged access to hardware that they don't want to give up by speaking up about these issues.

Customer service from almost every single company involved in PCs ranges from the absolute bare minimum to outright malicious.
If you don't have a hobby outside of PCs, it's actually hard to give a perspective on how horrible the industry is. They only got away with it so long because everything was so cheap. You wouldn't RMA a $20 mouse, or a $100 mobo, or even a $200 GPU that's already outdated.
Now that everything is so upmarket and everything has such a premium the crappy service is really coming to light.

>>106403015
But he's talking about consoles.

>>106403015
>High end ray-tracing/path tracing blocks you're path
Now what?

>>106403061
Not like that's a concern for FFXIV, is it?

>>106403075
He was responsible for the extremely mediocre FF16, which is riddled with technical issues.

I also bought a usb-c to DisplayPort cable, might keep it if I intend to use other monitors with my laptop that don't have a fucking usb-c port or even decide to ship such a cable anyway with it, which in case I would need to get a usb-c to c with dp comparability
By Allah we need standardized ports

>>106403097
whats the point of the exercice of making those "run at native" posts
devs know dlss exist and design the game around it

its truly strange

>>106403097
he was producer which is like pr guy. the director was the guy who did last remnant and the pc version of that was awful too (its unlisted from steam lmao)

Finally have all my components, all I have left to do is build

>>106403130
>'Just accept Square Enix slop like the slop they are'

>>106403134
Curiously the remaster never made it to PC.

https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/exploring-and-testing-oled-vrr-flicker

>woled monitors have gamma tied to fps because reasons
>so when fps goes from 480 to 10 the gamma shifts, which is visible as flicker as the screen darkens and brightens alongside fps fluctuations
>okay so what if you invented a monitor that doesnt tie gamma to fps
>turns out qd oleds tend not to
>they still flicker anyway, lmao, and the only way to fix it is buy new hardware that can run the game at monitors max framerate or turn gsync off.
>VRR control limits the amount of flicker somewhat

ugh

>>106403130
Not every console has machine-learning upscaling, anon. Devs can’t design your multiplat AAA slop to run on series x via upscaling because it can’t do it so they design your games to run on a toaster.

>>106403134
The buck stops with the producer; he was okay with the technical mess the director showed off.

>>106403173
They still use fsr upscaling on consoles
some games have amd frame gen on by default

>>106403190
And the resolution can drop down to 750p on those consoles, with FSR enabled.

>>106403190
We still live in the era of ps4 multiplats anon. Until we can put that and the switch 1 to bed, we’re not going to get games fully designed for upscaling.

>>106403210
>we’re not going to get games fully designed for upscaling.
you seem delusional

>>106403210
FSR1 is used to render some of the most popular Switch & PS4 games/ports (Zelda, D4, Hogwarts, etc.)

>>106403218
No u

>>106403210
>we’re not going to get games fully designed for upscaling.
We're already way past that point, even on console they're doing fsr or similar to turn 720p into 4k

what's the purpose of more multiple ports on these adapters?

>>106403165
And varies from screen to screen, but I barely noticed it, only I'm loading screens
But might have had an effect due to my eyes straining or not, idk
Could been an added culprit

Btw I'm using an oled phone for some time now and I have 0 eyestrain from it, at any brightness
People claim the contrast makes eyes focus too much being hard on them tiring them out
Idk

If my eyes get Cooked by qd-oled I have the 27" 4th gen panels to test or woleds, or go back to lcd, the gigabyte 4k 27" meme has dropped down to all time low again here everyone is running sales on everything it seems
Because its school season

Anywya

>>106401392 (OP)
MSI B650 Gaming Plus or MSI Mag B650 Tomahawk? The tomahawk is 30 euros more expensive.

>>106403287
tomahawk sounds more premium

>>106403266
You can aggregate both ports to work as one and get double the bandwidth or have redundancy
That's more of an enterprise level feature however

Another use case is software routers where one port is your WAN while the other goes to your LAN

Do I install the drive slots on my case if my motherboard supports 3 nvme slots?

>>106403266
nic teaming. Unless you are into server/VM stuff, you wont need it

>>106403287
Tomahawk has one more M.2 slot (3v2), two more SATA ports (6v4), and a few more USB ports.

>>106403308
>>106403327
Ok then. I am considering buying a 10gbps adapter for my nas instead of using the 1gbps onboard controller. I don't know much about it though. Do you have a brand recommendation?

>>106403287
you get a bit more VRM and better audio
that's about it
personally I would probably get tomahawk because it looks better

Soo 6090 in 2027 then?

>MS can't reproduce W11 24H2 SSD failure/corruption issue
>Phison can't reproduce it either
What's going on? Did the Nipponese lie? Paid actors? User error? Corpos lying?
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-asks-customers-for-feedback-on-ssd-failure-issues/
https://www.techpowerup.com/340376/phison-posts-latest-update-on-ssd-controller-stability

>>106403407
>works on my machine

>>106403349
Anything labeled as an Intel X540 or Intel X550 are based on really old chipsets, they work fine if your wiring is up to snuff but do use some power and run hot so they need dedicated airflow.

Aquantia based 10G NICs are lower power and the most friendly option if your "NAS" is windows or Linux based. They are often what's included on motherboards if your motherboard had 10G built in and is the chip used on most 10G NICs from more known brands like Asus, TP-Link, Trendnet, etc

As far as random amazon brands, it's hard to say, they should all work but check reviews.

>30 years of videogames to play
>build PC to play 5 new AAA games that come out every year
lol, lmao even

>>106403349
I have the Asus XG-C100C 10G v3 which uses the aquantia aqc113c
The only issue I have is that the driver crashes under load after a sleep/wake cycle and the driver needs to be restarted to resume network activity. Otherwise it's been okayish

>>106403462
>>106403502
I suddenly realized my router only has 1gbps ports so rip. Thanks anyway for the advice

Don't usually pay attention to hardware rumours, what time do those usually start coming out? I'm ready to start hyping up my 6090 build

>>106401931
>so if I buy a tray processor, put it into asrock card and it burns, retailer won't probably give a fuck?

Depends, in the EU retailers are mandated to provide 2 year warranty. I bought a tray 9950x3d and it comes with 36 months one

media content drought
they are clickfarming with made up shit

>>106403627
it says so on the retailers site
I've heard that AMD granted cpu replacement for asrock users, but I don't think that's something a normal warranty covers

>>106403597
5090 came out like 6 months ago
Come back in 15 months

>>106403597
probably 2027. I think 5090 was pretty underwhelming but I guess GPUs are like phones now

>>106403666
What about Radeon?

>>106403666
but pc autism is my hobby and im bored

>>106403677
They're usually later than Nvidia so, 18 months

>>106403644
Well, with tray CPUs its the retailers responsibility.

>g80sd here
Corner on box completely fucked in, might be destroyed
Let's unbox and see

>go to asrock reddit
>another claimed dead cpu
>oh wait, it's some random memmory issue and it now works

>>106402661
Rebar is part of why crapcom games perform so poorly these days.
Dragons dogballs 2 and the new monhun both use dogshit implementations of it.

>>106403493
I build a pc for the first time a few days ago and all I do is play retro games. Spent around $1600 and it was still the best thing I've ever spent money on.

>>106403268
People actually run too high a brightness on their OLED panel.
I got pretty bad eyestrain until I lowered the brightness

People don't think it's too bright because on a bright white image ot doesn't look to be, but that's because the ABL is kicking in.
Take any OLED on it's defaults and display a white on black webpage like Twitter and the brightness of all the text and other elements are equivalent to a 500-600 nit LCD displaying the same image.
The extreme brightness of everything is what kills you.

>>106403896
The lower prices on asrock boards is great for us. let all the redditors supply us with this discount.

>>106401709
$150 dollary doos for a less convenient, less performant, spyware OS

>>106401931
>so if I buy a tray processor, put it into asrock card and it burns, retailer won't probably give a fuck?
They just handle the return through amd themselves, as long as it isn't a shady store then you should be fine. Central computers in the US offers a three year warranty on their oem cpus. Got my 9950x3d for $610 during a sale.

I want a quiet small pc, is this a pick 2 scenario?

>>106404041
if you buy low power components, there are m-atx cases that can fit 4 140mm fans
that will run at low rpm - quiet

>>106404041
perfectly possible, however you will need to run lower clock speeds to avoid noise.

Should i bite the bait of Xiaomi monitors?

I know this isn't necessarily related to PC building but where can I get Vegas Pro for free nowadays?

Honestly, don't know what AMD and Nvidia are going for with the PC market. I wont buy another full PC or new parts for 6-7 years.

I am still on my AM4 build I built years ago. I recently upgraded with a RX 6700XT I got used on sale on ebay refurbished from my RX 580 that I upgraded from recently and I'm still using the 5600X with 16gb of ram I had originally.

My 1080p pixio monitor I already had and my thermal take power supply I already had. All total included it only cost around $520, but if we are only counting the recent upgrades, $230. When I first built the PC I got a bundle deal on my ddr4 ram and case on new egg.

It plays literally all the games including battlefront 2 2017 at 200fps at high settings. Until there's some modern slop I want to play then I'll just upgrade to a 5800X3D but I don't think I'll ever leave 1080p desu unless 1440p OLED becomes sub $150.

Ehh G80SD first problem detected
my DP to USB-C cable not working, detecting pc but giving no display out on the monitor
and yes the usb-c port supports dp-alt mode, I used it before 4k240hz just fine

>>106404270
cool blogpost

>>106404379
>G80SD
https://www.samsung.com/ca/support/model/LS32DG802SNXZA/#downloads

Try updating the firmware?

>>106404270
buying only what you need is common sense

>>106404420
already ran the software on start + after + it rebooted, it has wifi
running 1331

Hey guys, right now I've got a 5800x paired with an RTX 3080.
If I'm lucky, I could probably sell my GPU for 300€ and snag an RX 6950 XT for ~400€. Y'all think it's worth it?

I play at 1440p, don't mind using optiscaler to get FSR upscaling/fg in my games.
For what I've read, RT performance should be kind of similar to the 3080, right?

Does anyone else have trouble reading text in VA screens, or are my eyes just bad for this type of screen?
I spend 6 hours every day in front of my company's laptop and monitors and I can easily read even the smallest of text on those screens. They are the typical, run of the mill 60Hz IPS screens. I come home to my VA 180Hz monitor and my eyes simply cannot focus on most of the text, unless the background is white or light tones.

>>106404548
there something called black smearing on VA panels
but if you are not moving the text it should be even more visible, because they have better contrast
try fiddling with your screen settings

Why is Samsung 990 Pro 2TB 60°C fucking degrees idle?

>>106404743
you don't know what it's controller is doing right now

>>106404778
I have just disassembled the rig to move it and heatsink over NVME was warmer than GPU, both idle. The fuck is it doing over there?

>>106404548
VA panels had a history of using very strange subpixel structures, if it's a shit one it might use it
that's why IPS was also recommended generally

>>106404793
Idunno, managing storage
60°C is nothing to be alarmed by

>>106401433
I looked at this game because people couldn't stop shilling these girls everywhere. Turns out you need faggots on your team to make them do anything. Nice try but you aren't going to trick me into playing another mixed toilet homo game.

>>106404663
>>106404810
It's the AOC Q27G3XMN. The laytout seems fine and the monitor barely has any settings to tweak. I love the gaming and video experience on this. The black smearing doesn't bother me much. It's just a shame I have such a hard time focusing on text.
Interestingly, I can read text in video games just fine, even tiny subtitles.

>>106401740
Half the things you mentioned aren't even specific to the chip but its cooler, bios, tuning, etc. Also, the stock 9070 XT is overtuned. I reduced the power limit and set a minor undervolt and achieved 97%-98% of the same performance for 30% less power. In fact, the 9070 (non-XT) is one of the most efficient GPUs of this gen if I recall correctly. FSR4 and DLSS4 depend on your preferences and implementation. Realistically, they're close enough that I doubt anyone could tell the difference in a real-world gaming scenario.

>>106404843
are you using 1440p at work too?
my sight is degrading and I had to scale up text on 1440p
but on 1080p it is clear as day

>>106401740
I don't think nvidia has released game ready drivers for MGS yet so these videos are all junk.

>>106404868
>are you using 1440p at work too?
No, but the text on my laptop is smaller than what I have in this 1440p. The laptop is just 14 inches I think. That's about 157ppi.

>>106402108
>nas
>non-ecc
im going to laugh in ten years when a bitflip causes tearing in a single frame of a single video thus destroying your entire purpose and raison d’etre
may your days be ever fearful

>>106404943
Does regular AM4 even support ECC?

>>106404959
you have to get one of server / workstation boards.
asrock rack, asus ws, etc.

>>106404969
I think that anon wants to do a standard build, with standard motherboards.

>>106404943
based.

do you think there is a reason to upgrade from a i3-7350k nas biuld?
I just have a hdd array and only use it for file storage.

>>106402108
>>106404984
Get a workstatoin / server board that has IPMI support.
I'm not sure if supermicro still has their bios updates via firmware behind a paywall. Avoid if true.

where is this 48gb ram meme coming from?

>>106404984
>>106405009
yeee I am not paying $200 for a mobo with ecc support. I'll set raid-1, add a third drive for monthly backups of certain directories and call it a day

>>106405040
amazon, newegg, ebay, bestbuy, any electronics retailer that sells 48GB kits.

>>106405044
short changing your parents after all they did for you is a low point in life.

>>106405040
There are people with 2x24GB DDR5 kits, and also more people with the meme 2x 16GB + 2x 8GB config ('I had 2x 8GB, and I wasn't going to throw it away' boys).

>>106405040
I was told it's single rank. Not sure what actual performance advantage is. 0.5% probably.

>>106405067
I'll give them a shoulder massage or something

>>106405040
Someone explain the 28GB memory configs.
>3 * 8GB + 4GB?

>>106402606
How is twitch/kick going?

>>106405089
just add more ram it will make it go faster

>>106402992
The reputation of an 80 series is legendary amongst the casual gamer

>>106404991
only upgrade i see is something with a lower wattage, which who cares
fileservers don’t need much juice unless you’re running ceph or in-place transcoding

>>106405040
12 * 4

>>106405044
Anon, the PRO versions of these CPUs support ECC. These old ones were typically OEM so you'll probably have some difficult finding them online.

>>106405113
I was looking into getting 25Gbe nics for it but the hdds can't even saturate 10gbe unfortunately.
The cpu can handle full 10gbe transfers off the ram though; I would need a faster cpu for 25/50/100 Gbe.

>>106405089
2x 4GB sticks on the mobo, 8x 2GB sticks on this pci ram extendo board

>>106405044
>>106405127
B450M Pro4
And this board supports ECC.

Does anybody know what talking points we're supposed to push today? I can't log in to my discord

>>106405178
>vodkarunes
check in MAX messenger, Ivan

>>106405178
We're all scheduled to shit talk the corsair 4000d case for no reaaon

>>106405167
yeah thanks for the help but the itx part is an actual constraint. having a big black box around the living room isn't exactly appealing to them. I think I have better chance with a sff

>>106405239
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20B450%20Gaming-ITXac/#Specification

How do I disable WLAN module onboard Gigabyte motherboard? There's no obvious option in BIOS. It's supposed to be in M.2 slot under heatsink, and I can't reach under to pull it out without disassembling it all.

try as I might it really just doesn't make any sense to buy any CPU, today, at this moment in time, other than the 9800X3D

and boy did I try

>>106401386
I am in the US but I don't see that discount
is there more information on the monitors in the OP?

>>106405444
>only 8 cores

>>106403287
tomahawk is a much better board and worth the extra 30

>>106403287
>ALC897
>ALC4080
>20 years old dogshit or stir-fried fully digital dogshit
I hope you have good external DAC.

>>106405465
XG259CS is still discounted to $130 on US Amazon & Newegg; you need to select Amazon.com as the seller.
https://www.newegg.com/asus-xg259cs-24-5-fhd-180-hz-fast-ips-black/p/N82E16824281328
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Strix-Gaming-Monitor-XG259CS/dp/B0D6C9MXPZ?th=1

>>106405040
DDR5's progress has been garbage and has created new copes

>>106405467
Yeah! I know! That's why I tried!

>>106405529
Is AI gaming where AI plays games for me because I don't want to anymore?

>>106405516
nta but what's wrong with them. Bad snr? Distortion? Low power?

>>106405465
>is there more information on the monitors in the OP?
KTC monitors are usually sold on Amazon. DisplayNinja reviewed all the recommended KTC monitors.

>>106405555
ALC897 is overall obsolete codec, it's dogshit even with very average headphones
ALC4080 abandons HDA and goes fully digital and is very immature at this point in time
might as well use GPU audio instead

pretty embarassing perf from ayyymd here.

>>106405595
>it's dogshit even with very average headphones
Weak amplifier I take it?

>>106401897
if you dont do any productivity just get 9800x3d, if you only do productivity stuff then the 9950x
9950x3d is for the fringe cases of people who need/want to do both
>captcha: TRVKJ

>>106405637
>if you only do productivity stuff
>>106401897
285 ultra...

>>106405637
>if you want a game console get the 9800X3D
>if you want to do "productivity" (render porn in blender) get the 9950X
>if you want the best general purpose computer get the 9950X3D

>>106405686
>9950X3D
I dunno
I'm not convinced
seems to have problems those 2 CCDs

I don't think the G80SD works over DP -> USB-C
idk, can't get it to work
should it not be the same? a DP port is a DP Port?
Too bad, old monitor had usb-c worked instantly with included usb-c with the monitor

running 4k 60hz feels like absolute shit not gonna lie, it's actually insane how bad it feels

getting close to sleep I might have to figure out shit tomorrow

my point of testing was to test if the Blackout meme was real over DP + 4k 240hz before keeping it

other than that matte coating is really not a problem, I don't think I get eye strain from this monitor yet, some how, very strange, or maybe I was just sitting too close before

the HDR seems better on this compared to Philips

>>106405709
also I forgot how much heat 32" qdoled pumps out, it's literally insane how much heat they produce
smelling like burnt electronics off the rip almost

>>106405698
every high core count chip is going to come with some kind of caveat
maybe 12P bartlett lake or 12-core CCD zen 6 will fix that but for now it's not too much trouble to deal with it yourself

Can anyone please help me. Im not sure if this is Microstutter or just regular stutter or something else entirely.
This doesnt happen in all games but it happens enough where there will be "skipping" when I am playing.
My temps are all low so its not any kind of throttling but I will see skipping like in my webm I recorded. It will happen CONSTANTLY every second or so.
9600x and 5070 are the core components.

Oblivion remaster playable on a gt 1010. Stunning and inspiring.
>>106405735
I've kind of noticed that there's a period from maybe like the late 2000s to mid 2010s where like every game is just super unstable and constantly jittery.
I could also be retarded and also be suffering from the same weird issue without knowing.
If it's LITERALLY every game I would be thinking about things like a dying drive or something, I've seen that happen before where a hard drive was nearly finished off and if I tried playing any game it was just non-stop stuttering.
9600x also kind of a shitty processor so maybe try framerate caps you can actually reach consistently, some games really hate it if you run the cpu close to max.

List the games you've seen it in and what have you tried so far

>>106405819
So ive noticed it in the new Gears reloaded. Frame cap of 90 on medium settings
Space marine 2 frame cap of 60

>>106405735
What's your RAM situation?

>>106405851
32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6400 (PC5 51200).
XMP or whatever its called nowadays enabled in bios

>>106405603
It's the other way around. How is the 5070Ti slower than the 9070XT? Hell, the AMD card is near 5080 performance in this game.

>>106405873
The UCLK:MEMCLK ratio is probably automatically set to the suboptimal 1:2 mode; it's the default behavior (according to AMD) if the memory speed exceeds 6000MT/s.
Go to the BIOS & lower the memory speed to 6000MT/s, primaries to 30-40-40, and MEMCLK:UCLK ratio to 1:1.

>>106405908
I don't think this will solve the stutters, but it will improve overall performance.

>>106405928
>>106405908
I will say I noticed the sutter even in the bios. Took off XMP and immediately noticed it was gone lol. Idk if its a fluke but lets see if I can continue like this

>>106405884
>Hell, the AMD card is near 5080 performance in this game.
Because the devs of this $80 joke think their job is done if the hardware hits over 60 FPS.

The prices were supposed to fall in August and NADA

>>106405884
Was the same in Mafia.

>>106406011
Hangar 13 is a literal who when it comes to shipping stable games.
The fact that you're excited to share these cherry-picked benchmarks shows this only happens on shitty ports.

Look at this horseshit @ 1080p, a 3600X runs slightly worse than a 9800X3D.

>>106406070
I'm not trying to push any narrative, just sharing. I know it's only totally unoptimized ue5 releases.

is it bad to get 2 sticks of ram now and upgrade later by getting another of the exact same kit?

>>106406098
that's a russian shit site with extrapolated data and no real tests

>>106406282
Whatever you say, copelet.

why do modern computers take so long to boot

are sub 10 second boot times just gone forever

XMP
EXPO
these things cause nothing but problems unless you are autistic enough to know how to stress test ram properly

Anyone know the current most stable driver for a 5070 ti? I'm about to upgrade but reading horror stories of how everyone is crashing on 90% of drivers

>>106405992
If you wanted a 5090 you'd have a 5090

>>106406311
>are sub 10 second boot times just gone forever
Are they? I don't measure but mine it can't be much longer than that.
>>106406282
Where's proof of that, have they ever posted something that was drastically different then what everyone else got?
All kinds of reviewers have 20 zillion parts tested every release, why couldn't they?
>>106406356
>horror stories of how everyone is crashing on 90% of drivers
Stop falling for memes anon, not sure about the current driver but the last game ready and current studio are both totally fine.

>>106406386
>horror stories
Literally all I read is this shit bro. It isn't a horror story if it's unanimous

>>106406399
Stick with whatever driver you're currently using if you're indecisive over this.

>>106406356
>horror stories
That's the thing they are just stories that are fake.

>>106406311
i know, i thought that was a DDR5 problem but LGA1700 still takes like 10s to POST with DDR4
>>106406340
normal people don't build computers so that just makes you a dumb autist
you want to believe you're above the prebuilt masses but you don't have the agency to take matters into your own hands
>>106406386
>Are they? I don't measure but mine it can't be much longer than that
task manager shows POST/BIOS time in startup apps
on linux you can use systemd-analyze

>>106406356
>Anyone know the current most stable driver
Just install the latest. People complain but no one is ever capable of proving anything.

>>106401740
nvidiasissies, your response?

>>106406512
video games are for losers, im here to gen tranime porn pic related

>>106406512
Path tracing performance. TAAU is upscaling btw
Even in games like cyberpunk where performance is half-way tolerable you have neither a ray reconstruction alternative nor a high enough resolution for things to look okay.

>>106406382
I plan to build a new PC in fall, so I'm checking prices now and then

>>106406311
My computer is an utter dogshit Windows 10 shitbox with a Ryzen 5 1400 quad core. Task manager says it takes 14.4 seconds to startup. There are consumer CPUs today that are several times faster than mine.

>>106405529
interesting, it works for my adress $130 on newegg but apparently on amazon they are just gouging in dallas
I tried using a proxy for california and it's $130 there on amazon

>>106406535
So what will be the next cope in a few years? Penis tracing?

>>106406535
None of these framerates are playable though

>>106406618
fuck you, esports homos don't matter.
>>106406594
Probably the same thing since AMD doesn't care about desktop anymore.

>>106406356
the latest driver will cause stutter

>>106405444
It really doesn't make sense to buy any cpu until next year at the earliest. We are on the cusp of big breakthroughs.

>>106406663
Funny to see some people acting as if AMD and Intel aren’t following the ray tracing trend set by NVIDIA.
https://gpuopen.com/learn/amd-fsr3-ue5-6-redstone/

>>106406663
Because Nvidia cares about desktop gaming gpus?

>>106402764
SOUL

>>106406708
but I need shit now

>>106406842
You think you do but you don't. I'm still getting by just fine on an i5.

Does anyone ITT that built a PC this year regret it?

>>106406731
Evidence points to yes.
>>106406709
>coming soon
>totally will be halfway as good as the first iteration of the Nvidia equivalent
>definitely will see meaningful improvements before Sony needs something better for the gaystation 7

RDNA 4 vs Blackwell is only slightly better than RDNA 1 vs Turing
Screenshot this post so that 4 years from now you can remember and cry

>>106406856
Plenty did, this whole generation of tech is cursed. You would have to be a fool to build during the 5000 series.

>>106406867
Bub, nvidia abandoned the entire gaming gpu industry, it's all about data center and AI now.

>>106406878
AMD CPUs are the only thing that's okay right now. Everything else has disappointed me.

>>106406878
>>106406893
>>106406980
Gaymers Nexus tier posts

>>106406893
They'll come back. Don't worry about it.

>>106406992
Not until you stop buying their shit.

>>106407035
Whether gaymers but Nvidia GPUs or not is irrelevant. What's relevant is that their revenue from AI will drop after people realize that AI can't make back a hundredth of the money that went into it, and the bubble shifts to the latest new thing. Then they'll fall back to their old reliable bases.

>>106406893
>Gaming revenue for the second quarter was up 49% from a year ago and up 14% sequentially, with strong sales and increased supply of our Blackwell product.

Thats pure cope made by techtubers trying to farm amdrones for views

>Second-quarter Gaming revenue was $4.3 billion, up 14% from the previous quarter and up 49% from a year ago.

Unironicallly Nvidia gaming sector makes more than the entire AMD division

>>106407071
and gamers will continue to reward nvidia for shit after being abandoned

>>106407204
>Shit
you can see right here that the 9070xt needs 380W to match a 5070ti using 240w >>106401740 and this is on an amd sponsored console port ue5 slop on any other engine like the bf6 you get results like this

2 monitor choices, one is the TM32QHD165VA
>8K Bird country liras(197.27$)
>31.5"
>VA
>https://www.twistedminds.co/products/twisted-minds-32inch-flat-qhd-165hz-va-od-4ms-mprt-1ms-hdr-function-hdmi2-1-2-gaming-monitor-tm32qhd165va
while the other is the Gamepower Sonic T80:
>7K Melondollars(6.8 with discount(165.62$))
>27"
>HDR400
>Fast IPS
>https://gamepowerpc.com/monitor/sonic-t80#specs
main monitor, gayming like war thunder, BF, strat while watching movies at night
BenQ TN GL2460 is a good template

https://wccftech.com/china-domestic-x86-cpu-the-zhaoxin-kx-7000-debuts-in-an-ai-pc-by-maxhub/
>China has its very own domestic x86 CPU as well, developed by the manufacturer Zhaoxin, which has seen integration by MAXHUB, a renowned system integrator.

ZHAOXIN WON

THANK YOU ZHAOXIN

>>106407233
I don't care.

>>106406112
amd stutters less on UE5 titles and console ports which tanks the nvidia avg fps in every benchmark run they post. You can see the same on oblivion.

>>106407267
That's just a rebranded LGA1700 intel chip thoughever

>>106407273
>get proven wrong
>dont care
lmao

>>106407278
That's driver overhead + poor optimization kind of like I said though.

>>106407191
It's life you intentionally don't watch news.

>>106406856
I did.

>>106406856
Yeah. My system is running fine now, but it was a headache getting everything sorted out, and like anon noted above, my boots went from 10 seconds to 20 seconds. I guess I don't regret it, but the process was not as smooth as last time

>>106407305
No it has to do with that particular version (pre 5.4 ) of unreal engine and nanite, if you download the sdk and turn off nanite the stutters are equal in both gpus

>>106407337
Wasn't nanite a good thing though?

>>106407316
Anon nvidia quarterly results were literally posted a few hours ago. AMD lost

>>106407351
i wonder why they do not care about their gaming gpus and drivers anymore

>>106407337
>if you download the sdk and turn off nanite
Can't you do this in ue5 games just with editing a cfg? I know you can in sh2 (and gain like +20fps on RDNA1 and Vega)
Why would the old version of nanite be more rough on Nvidia gpus if it's not some type of cpu and driver overhead thing?

>>106407347
It has it merits and it less ass after 5.4 but on older engines it was one of the main reason we got bad traversal stutters because of devs not understanding how use Lods properly, it's less bad on AMD hardware because they got specific optimization that is made so the ps5 dont shit the bed, Tim promised that 5.6 is finally when nanite will not fucking be a problem but in this case is mostly down to nvidia not paying them enough to optimize it

>>106407365
If they don't care why are they still an eon ahead of radeon?

>>106407347
lol
nvidia won

>>106407368
Because the ps5 runs on AMD hardware, as i said its an specific nanite optimization they implement for consoles, which is why on certain unreal engines both gpu's shit the bed equally bad

>>106407396
on certain unreal engine games*

casual reminder that there was only one (((anon))) that used the slav3d behncharks here

>>106407351
>'But I checked Microcenter in Florida! So many unsold RTX 50 cards!'

>>106407351
That was not the argument you retard.

>>106407447
Anon during revenue reports they literally mention how much they expect sectors to growth and how much focus and R&D they are expecting. They literally said that they do not plan to pull out from the gamign sector and they expect their revenue coming from it to continue to grow massively, out of all their revenue sources gaming is the 2nd behind AI

>>106407441
The Steam discussion thread with the gamegpu guy is one of the first links to appear when you search for [mafia "the old country" performance issues].
Casual reminder that you've still got the DLSS in your head, rent free™.

>>106407428
>>106407428
>>106407428

>>106407458
to put numbers into perspective this is AMD quarter that landed them a negative 18% on gross profit and their worst margins in 20 years (they are making no money sellling their gpus and chips that cheap) https://ir.amd.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1257/amd-reports-second-quarter-2025-financial-results

>if you do x and y you can find z
>see? this is proof thats someone else and not me
>nevermind the fact that the only one retarded enough to turn filename and hash randomizer on a containment thread with 5 anons or so :^)

>>106407485
It's more about the US government fucking around with Chinese export restrictions.
Both AMD and NVIDIA had to prepare for the worst and write off sales of China-only data center GPUs they've already ordered.
That's been solved after Trump negotiated a 10% cut of the revenue.

>>106407458
That's why they cut the production of the gaming cards so they can squeeze out more ai shit lol. It's like your are a nigger and can't think 5 seconds ahead

>>106407504
>'Anyone who visits and references gamegpu.com is the dlss schizo'
Absolutely hopeless.

>'He thinks people turn on 4Chan filename randomizer for /pcbg/'
FYI, the DLSS schizo wasn't using the randomizer the last time he resurfaced.

>>106407508
No it has nothing to do with that, AMD margins are terrible because they are trying to compete to gain market share, nvidia on the other hand does not operate at a loss even with the write offs

>>106407524
>That's why they cut the production of the gaming cards
That was a baseless rumour parroted by the techtubers. You can literally see the numbers on their official quarters report and their liable for that on court, this is the real world retard

>>106407534
>No it has nothing to do with that
That lost Chinese revenue was worth around $800 million; it absolutely had everything to do with it.

>>106407531
>4k
>dllss
so not 4k? good for you i guess

>>106407560
Those 800 millions were not gross profit, the margins on those chips are terrible so they would still be operating at a loss based on their quarterly report https://ir.amd.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1257/amd-reports-second-quarter-2025-financial-results

>>106407561
That's not my point; I don't own a 4070.

>>106407560
>Non-GAAP numbers
Those are literally cooked up

>>106407568
>the margins on those chips are terrible
No they're not; that's why that $800 lost revenue significantly impacted AMD's margins.
Just because the margins are lower than NVIDIA's doesn't mean it's terrible.

>>106407608
>bringing the GAAP gross margin down to 40%
>technically bringing losing 134m on GAAP
They are terrible anon read the article, if you are down 150% on Y/Y when you go from 5.5b to 7.8b those 800m would do nothing,
The writted of 134m because that was what they expected to sell not because those 800m, would turn around the numbers in any meaningful way.

>>106407626
>The writted of 134m because that was what they expected to sell not because those 800m, would turn around the numbers in any meaningful way.
Absolutely retarded. They expected the MI308 export restrictions would negatively impact $1.5B in revenues across Q2 and Q3; -$800m of that $1.5B revenue was accounted for last quarter.
https://www.reuters.com/business/chipmaker-amd-forecasts-second-quarter-revenue-above-estimates-2025-05-06/

"Writted off", fucking imbecile.

>>106407668
Anon you are completely fucking retarded that would not change the GAAP gross margin because they were written off.

The numbers would look exactly the same because how the GAAP operating expenses/ to revenue % is calculated for quarters

>>106407683
Basically your 1.5b billion on 2 quraters or 800m is still there it just counted as an Asset held for sale rather than on the revenue chart which i have not even mentioned once, i have been talking about gross margins and Y/Y income loses

>>106407683
>"$800 million in lost quarterly revenue would not change gross margin"
Specifically, it was a write-down, which affects COGS and decreased gross margins.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amd-stock-gets-bullish-rating-235325452.html

>>106407735
on NON-GAAP numbers read the fucking shit you are posting, this is embarassing
GAAP number do count them as Asset held for sale

this has been an embarssment

>>106407707
>>106407743
>have been talking about gross margins and Y/Y income loses
Those are caused by amortization charges for acquisition-related intangibles (i.e. Xilinx) and stock based compensation (“all other”, $1021m last quarter).
Not about selling data center products at low margins as you claim.
You are the embarrassment.

>'The data center losses aren't due to export restrictions'
Nitwit.

>>106405603
>pretty embarassing perf from ayyymd here
It's even more embarrassing for nvidia considering the 4 grand 5090 can't even do 100 fps at 1440p lmfao

>>106407940
Game issue, it defaults to 60 FPS cap unless you use mods or change the ini file.
That's the standard of performance the devs were targeting; everything else is a bonus for these JP devs.

>>106408029
>>106408029
>>106408029

What do we think for $1500 budget. I live In the U.S.A

https://newegg.io/9cf0970

>>106408689
I would pay the $40 extra for the 5070 Ti Gaming Trio OC or look for one of the base MSRP 5070 Ti cards (Gigabyte Windforce SFF, ASUS Prime, PNY).
I'm almost certain the MSI Inspire card is basically a nicer looking Ventus with loud fans & the strictest power limit.
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/273832/273832

You don't need an AIO to cool the 9600X. Get a Phantom Spirit or Peerless Assassin V3 and spend the savings on the Gaming Trio OC.