Thread 106447990

>>106401320
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)

Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards, tactile feel and quiet + the TrackPoint
>Great durability: magnesium roll cage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>Excellent Linux & *BSD support

ThinkWiki - General info about ThinkPads/specs
https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

Model generations:
>Classic IBM: T40, T41, T42
>IBM/Lenovo Transition: T43, T60, T61 (T42 - T43: significant difference in specs)
>"Classic" Lenovo: T400, T410, T420 (T61 - T400: 4:3 to 16:10)
>Transition to old modern: T430, T440, T450 (T420 - T430: membrane to chiclet)
>Old modern: T460, T470, T480 (T450 - T460: significantly less thick)
>New modern: T490, T14g1, T14g2 (T480 - T490: design change)
>New new modern: T14g3, T14g4, ... (T14g2 - T14g3: second design change)

BIOS replacement:
https://coreboot.org/downloads.html
https://libreboot.org/docs/install/
https://canoeboot.org/docs/install/

Additional resources:
https://dankpads.com/tpg/
https://biosimage.booru.org
https://1vyra.in

Patches:
https://github.com/digmorepaka/thinkpad-firmware-patches
https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec

Chat:
##ibmthinkpad on libera
#/tpg/ on rizon

I think Thinkpad SUCKS!

>>106447990 (OP)
T540 on a dock
Mint loonix, latest stable whatever
Doesn't recognize screen when dock is reconnected, only connects the first time it's docked.
Is this perchance a common problem that has been solved 13 years ago?

>>106448652
Same thing happens with my X200. I don't think there's a solution other than rebooting.

>>106448525
>t. NSA when find my RAM & ROM secured by epoxy.

>>106448687
You did help me in a way.
Got me thinking why not just restart the monitor instead of reboot the whole thing.
>xrandr --output eDP-1-2 --off
>xrandr --output eDP-1-2 --left-of eDP-1 --auto
>check names with xrandr --listmonitors
Dick around with udev and make it trigger this on dock.

>>106371225
I got my C13. First impressions are good. aluminum shell and lid, feels very solid. Display is gorgeous (from my limited experience).

Loading the modified coreboot CFW from MrChromebox/Chrultrabook project was simple. Put Debian 13 with KDE on there. It's a Ryzen 3700C w/16GB RAM and 256GB Nvme.

Audio setup had a minor hitch. Short version, had to symlink a config file that gets installed to the wrong folder.

The Chromebook keyboard is a little odd, but I can adjust. There's another script in the chrultrabook documentation to get F1-11 keys on the top row instead of the Chromebook function keys.

Haven't fooled with screen rotation/pen input yet but it's next on my testing list after I install a few creature comforts and configure the DE behavior.

Very, very close in size to my old X230, and smaller than the salvaged L390Y I fixed and will eventually pass on to somebody else.

(X230 top in stack, C13 under that, L390Y bottom)

>>106448781
Why would the NSA be after you?

is the t14s gen 4 still worth getting? it's on sale for about €1000 at lenovo

>16 inch 2560x1600 at 165hz
or
>14.5 inch 3800x1920 at 120hz

?

>>106450925

im retarded i meant 3072x1920

>just purchased T14 G2 on local marketplace
>the seller is out of it so they gonna send me L14 G2 R5 with some cashback
how fucked am I?

16 inch... bigger screen and a resolution that will not require you to scale UI

couple days ago got my first thinkpad for 70$ its x230 with dock
love it

>>106450428
Only if you needs that extra performance. The "buying 3+ years old Thinkpad" meta gives more bang for your bucks.

>>106450949
Only drawbacks are shallower keyboard and smaller battery

>>106452039
Didn't they all get the shallower keyboard with G2 anyways? btw I have an L14 G5 and it's not too bad IMO, then again I don't have a comparison to the previous version and the only other StinkPad that I have is a T420.

>>106452232
T14/T15/L13/P15/P17 kept 1.8mm for G2 afaik

Can I use a ThinkPad for gaming?

>>106452561
I played Minecraft and GTA:SA on a T420, so the question is what do you mean by "gaming".

>>106452567
Counter Strike 2 and shit like that.

>>106452665
You can run CS2 on a potato. You'll probably be disappointed by the pixel response time and screen refresh unless you're using an external monitor.

>>106447990 (OP)
I have a T460, only issue is in a have a docking station and laptop has no USB-C. What's a baste Thinkpad model that has USB-C ports and still has Ethernet port?

>>106453093
Depends on the budget really:
>T480
>P/T14 Gen 2
>P/T14 Gen 5 (AMD)

these are the usual recommendations. Otherwise consider getting a dock with an ethernet jack.

>>106448856
How is the temps? I've been thinking of getting C13 since no one sells thinkpad yoga with ryzen here. Mine L13 is basically an oven

Are Zbooks typically built better than Elitebooks?

>>106452561
you can play no games on thinkpad, it's business machine

>768p
>quad core 1.8 ghz
>8gb ram
Wtf is this crap, whats the best MODERNLY SPECCED thinkpad? Don’t care if it is soldered

>>106455638
Take your pick of the latest P1 (16"), P14s Intel (14.5"), T14s (14") or X13 (13").

Not that you can't get nearly modern specs in models up to 4-5 years old, you just have to read listings carefully and maybe buy some ram on your own.

Are there any good 13" (or smaller) thinkpads? My current laptop (15") barely fits on the tray table on an airplane

>>106455118
I've been meaning to look at those, it's on my list. I'll get some stats for you later tonight.

Touch input works, trying to figure out why the pen doesn't at the moment.

>>106452773
>You can run CS2 on a potato
This was true of CSGO but not CS2. I tried playing on a 3200g with 16 gigs of ram, I was getting 30-60 fps with constant microstutter and screen tearing. The update forced me out of the game

>>106456071
Nothing smaller than 13" unless you get into tablet shit/detachable keyboard models. But 13" screen doesn't mean all 13" models have the same physical dimensional footprint. Z13 and X1 Nano are very small 13" laptops with tiny bezels, there's like an inch or more difference between them and say, an L13. An X13 is somewhere in between and will vary from generation to generation.

what is the bare minimum thinkpad for running a light home server for local fileshare, dns, video streaming and game server hosting?

>>106456646
X220/W520/T430, or if you're poor and don't need USB 3, T410 etc. Anything older will have trouble transcoding video.

>>106447990 (OP)
Just bought this piece of shit after drinking /g/ koolaid.
>cheap plastic gets fingerprints everywhere
>trackpad inaccurate
>windows lol
>mouse 1 and 2 cheap, loud
>can't open from closed position without two hands

For $500 you can just buy a used mbp that blows this piece of shit out of the water. Using Windows is a total nightmare, even after downgrading from 11 to 10. I could run Linux, but I'm straight, don't wear thigh high socks nor do I have a crippling need to feel unique.

do not recommend

>>106453093
T480 or A485 if you prefer AMD. I have both, happy with both
>>106456646
you're not gonna need a lot for a home server. I'd still recommend something a bit newer than a x230 if you're gonna do video streaming because hardware encoding is nice on slightly more recent machines (I can't remember if sandy/ivy have h264 hw encoding or not)
like for my other quote look into those 2 models, especially for game server hosting since you'll be able to put more RAM inside them (they can take 64GB). more RAM can also be useful for filesharing if you're gonna use zfs, and they can both hw encode h264/h265
>>106456947
>I could run Linux, but I'm straight, don't wear thigh high socks
Artix might be up your alley then. it's Linux but for straight chuds (not using that as an insult, I use Artix myself). and if you're straight why would you want a Mac anyway? do I need to remind you that both Steve Blowjobs and Tim Cock were/are faggots?

picked up a pair of cheap t470s, i7-6600u 8gig of ram and running windows 11 pro, but damn its pretty slow. im thinking of installing some linux distro to it, currently use it for school going through electrical engineering so i should probably get some experience in linux. Also want to replace the batteries as they are getting weak and im only getting maybe 2 hours of very light use out of the thing.

>>106457005
I'd only swap the external battery for now if I were you. you can find 72Wh batteries on ebay for like 45usd. bought 2 of those for my Thinkpads and I get pretty good battery life out of them (my internal batteries both have roughly 20Wh capacity out of 24)

>>106457042
mine only has the 2 internal batteries, i think its the regular t470 that uses an external type battery.

>>106456975
>and if you're straight why would you want a Mac anyway
Because it's literally the white working man's product of choice because... it just works. People that are actually building shit are using vscode on a mbp. People that talk about building shit are running linux.

>>106457131
>Mac
>straight white
pick one because mac sure as shit isnt the poster child of white and straight. More geared to the brownoid lgbtqhjhfyskjsntu++ crowd

>>106457104
ah when you said "a pair of cheap t470s" I thought you meant two T470, not the T470s model kek
>>106457131
if only you knew how bad things really are

>>106447990 (OP)
>theres a thinkpad general
are you fucking serious? why? is this for personal cloud/NAS shit? i coudl not think of a single reason otherwise

>>106457191
ahh ya i see that now lol.
seems like the only good place to buy a battery is ifixit but damn im not sure i want to drop 120 bucks on a pair of batteries for a 100 dollar laptop

>>106457273
Thinkpads are very comfy to use
>>106457324
are you able to tell me the SKU of the 2 batteries inside yours? I'll check if the ebay seller I buy my batteries from has them. just looking for "t470s" I can only find the top one, not the larger one at the bottom

>>106457348
ThinkPad T470s Front Battery - 00HW022
T470s Rear Battery - 01AV462
although my rear says 01av405 but i thing the 462 is just an updated part

>>106457384
I was looking and I managed to find both, the 01av405 also goes by 00hw024 it seems
top battery: https://www.ebay.com/itm/384267889197
bottom battery: https://www.ebay.com/itm/384389784930
my two Thinkpads have batteries I bought from that seller (one is ~10 months old, the other one I received last week) and I've had no issues with them so far. picrel is the older one, in 10 months it lost 2.5Wh, sounds acceptable to me (ignore the reported design capacity though, it's just my power manager reporting it wrong, sometimes it changes it to 24 or 72 too kek)

>>106457273
It's as simple as Thinkpad design team still being primarily from Japan.

>>106457428
Thank you. just ordered them for one of the laptops. hopefully this helps improve the battery life so I can get through one lab session without having to charge it. Well im off to try and install linux for my first time, pic related.

Can I put thinkpad's trackpad sticker on a Latitude? Dell's trackpad feels like a sandpaper in comparison to thinkpad, holy shit

I was thinking of getting a cheap laptop to do some coding and retro gaming while I'm at work. Could i get some recommendations or links for a good thinkpad between $150-$200?

Been using Dell Latitudes (14-15", I7, Quadro) for the past 15 years because my former employer.
When they're past extended warranty, I manage to keep them for personal use, upgrade them a bit until.
Now my family is asking me 4 so wanted to give it a try to Thinkpads. Requisites:
- 15" ideal, 14" minimum
- Compatible with Mint and Win11
- Not very old/underpowered (I7 ideal) so i can upgrade them later
- Usb3/thunderbolt to use Dell D6000 dock

Where should i start? T14/15? What gen?

>>106456114
>>106455118
temps seem fine. about 36C on boot up/idle. Put on a Youtube video in 1440p and let it run for a few minutes, it only ever hit about 47C. If I scrub around in it, it will go up to around 50.

Anything in particular you want me to test?

The keyboard is taking a little getting used to. I think I'm going to remap a few more keys. I don't need the "lock" button (i'll just let it auto-lock on idle or shut the lid), but I do need a Delete key, lol. I only realized it later that the workflow Chromebook keyboards want you to use is the "Search [Left Meta] + Backspace" and that's just not going to do.

No Caps Lock is also kind of weird (again, it's the Search/Meta button for this keyboard). I think I'll remap it to capslock like a normal keyboard. I use a Model M at my desk so I've never used a Meta key in my life, all my keyboard shortcuts rely on shiff/ctrl/alt modifiers.

Any non-poorfags looking forward to this?

>>106456071
Very happy with my Z13 after years of carrying around a P50.
It's smaller than an A4 sheet and quite thin.

>>106459494
Looks like the same flawed designs as in the 2024 models. Soldered wifi across the board, pointlessly bottom-loaded keyboards, pointlessly missing Ethernet on the most expensive ones.

If they made one with E-series modularity, T-series CPU choices and replaceable keyboard, and P-series build materials, I'd buy it new.

>>106460204
They are bringing back ethernet port at the very least. We'll see if the wifi card is still soldered or not

>>106447990 (OP)
>New modern
ThinkPad T14s Gen 1 – Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U | 16GB RAM | 256GB SSD | 14" FHD @ 250€. Is it worth it?

>>106461706
Only if you're sure you won't need more than 16 GB. Soldered, no slots.

>>106461761
I actually think I'll go for a non s version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvRVTli-Lb8

>>106461706
yes but keep in mind that Ryzen 5 5650U is better. If you can get a G2 R5 with similar price you better snitch that one

>>106462041
I found a gen2 for 100€ more but I still wish to replace the keyboard to an US ANSI model and this >>106461804 video made me desist. There's also the added benefit of a better air cooling on a non S model. For instance I found a t14 gen 1 at 280€

>>106461804
ha. that vid

I have the t14 (non-S) gen1 Ryzen Pro 4750U w/32GB RAM and 1TB samsung 970evo
It's a decent machine except Lenovos BIOS will drain battery even if OFF.
It loses about 50% charge per week being off but if you disconnect the battery via the BIOS that goes down to like less than 5%.
Just a stupid odd quirk of the system that Lenovo never straightened out. Support will say absurd things like its a driver problem that the BIOS slurps battery even when off.
Anyway.. It's been a decent machine for me but it doesnt game that well
It's barely OK at fortnight, and other games like Rust are basically unplayable.
I bought it hoping that the built in Vega graphics would let me get some gaming done... but anything more than retro games is going to be tough.

Just thought I'd share

>>106462229
>Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen2 Ryzen 5 Pro 2.3GHz 16GB 256GB @ 500€ or x3 166€/mo + 9€ delivery
>Laptop Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen 2A Ryzen 5 Pro 16GB 256GB SSD NVMe FHD Touch W11P @ 380€ or x3 128€/mo + 40€ delivery
There are other options which work for my budget but I am unsure how much better gen 2 is over gen 1. My only gaming use case is casual team fortress 2 or running games in android emulator. I'll eventually build a desktop for gaming but I really need a laptop for everyday use (programming/media consumption)

>>106462229
>I bought it hoping that the built in Vega graphics would let me get some gaming done
T14 G3 has 10x better iGPU performance but they drop a lot of features since then. No more ultradock port, no more sd card reader, different keyboard.

>>106463249
Lenovo seems to treat AMD systems like 2nd class citizens.

Lenovo IdeaPad Slim 3 15.6" Touchscreen Laptop - Arctic Grey (AMD Ryzen 7 5825U/16GB RAM/512GB SSD) 82XM00TECF
is this ok? I just want something that will werk with linux and has a decent battery life. Thinkpads aren't in stock at my local store but this is

>>106462333
There is a small performance difference but what's most noticeable is the battery life. G2 lasts almost 1.5x as long as G1 with light use.

>>106464242
If it'll stay at home most of the time, it's probably okay. Don't buy anything consumer ("small business" included) if you'll be carrying it in a backpack regularly or opening and closing it more than twice a day.

page 9 bump

If anyone with an AES 2 touchscreen display is looking for a stylus, the HP Rechargeable Active Pen G3 costs $10 on eBay.
https://www.delltechnologies.com/asset/en-us/products/electronics-and-accessories/briefs-summaries/Dell_Pen_Compatibility_Brochure.pdf
If it supports 4096 pressure levels, it's AES 2. The PDF lists newer Inspirons with 1024 pressure levels that don't support the PN7522W pen (AES 1+2, while WGP is shown on some pages but not all?), or the PN350M (MPP). I'm assuming they support WGP pens.

I just bought a Chinkpad T480, can't wait till it arrives :3

What's the most modern Thinkpad I should buy that has a reasonable price?

>>106469254
I'm partial to the X1 carbon.
Maybe a yoga variant if thats your jam.
But you can get X1 with 16GB RAM and 500GB drive for $200-400 depending on generation and config.

I just bought a X1 gen 10 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD, 1920x1200 display, i7-1260p for $350 on craigslist last week.

previously I bought a 6th gen x1 for $200 with a quadcore and a 1440 display. Gave it to my pops when I upgraded.

>>106459494
The AMD options are the only choice at this point given how Intel is flailing about

test

I'm looking for a laptop that has a 1366x768 panel but a relatively recent cpu, at least 10 000+ cpu mark.
Is it possible to find something like this?
Basically, high dpi screens really fuck with my eyes, making them constantly refocus. I've been using a 1366x768 laptop for 8 years then switched to a newer laptop with a 1920x1080 screen and started having severe eye strain, with my myopia worsening in the span of 2 months.
I can only comfortably use a low-res screen, it seems. How would you get out of this predicament bros

>>106469757
I don't think DPI is the issue here. PWM is.
Modern panel controls brightness by rapidly turning the screen on and off. Try set the brightness to max and see if it helps.

>>106469776
I did consider this, and found that the new 1920x1080 laptop I used actually didn't have PWM. Currently, I have a Mac Air 15 M4 side by side with a thinkpad e15 (with 1920x1080) from work, and the difference is night and day. It's like when looking at thinkpad screen, I perceive the information being displayed "immediately", while on mac, my eyes constantly refocus on each part of the screen to be able to read. And scaling doesn't help.
With this thinkpad e15 it's also not perfect, with prolonged usage I still get fatigue.

Which model supports 4k 60hz output?

>>106447990 (OP)
I come back here every now and then to thanks /g/ for giving me the impetus to buy an actually useful and reliable laptop.

I have literally killed my thinkpad and brought it back to life. I spilled tea inside the vents where it shorted the ACPI. I tore the thing down, I wiped it, isopropyl'd it, and waited a while. It's been working fine ever since. There are plenty of other instances where say, my bag was mistreated and the battery casing was busted. Lo and behold, a quick replacement was available. Another time the keyboard was broken. A key replacement was there. I wanted to swap to azerty: easily done. I needed more ports: here's a cheap dock. Chargers are cheap and plentiful. I know that when I need to move to nu-thinkpad I'll probably suffer, but I'll stay on this laptop for a long while yet.

>>106469757
>I'm looking for a laptop that has a 1366x768 panel but a relatively recent cpu, at least 10 000+ cpu mark.
X13/L13/L14 G1 AMD with R5 or R7, plenty of HD+ panels on those models

>>106469757
>with my myopia worsening in the span of 2 months
why are you asking us about screens?
if you could actually notice your myopia getting worse in such a short span as an adult then there's something incredibly fucked up with your eyes and likely general health. go to the doctor man

Which thinkpad you guys swear by? Is it the t480? I'm a student.

thinkbump

>>106470717
Every model is a compromise, it's up to you to pick one that has the features you need. For this budget and screen size the choice is pretty much between T480, T480s, T470p and T495.

>>106469757
>>106469776
nowadays the problem is often not PWM. that problem has been mostly fixed, although you do still find screen that do it. some newer screen tech is reintroducing it.
the real problem is a thing called temporal (time-based) dithering. basically, the gpu and/or monitor flicker individual pixels back and forth in order to simulate a broader range of colors.
it is very similar to PWM, but the actual mechanism and purpose is different. at the end of the day you are still dealing with what is effectively a quickly flashing light in your eyes. no wonder you feel unwell.
temporal dithering is done on both gpus and monitors themselves. i believe ever modern gpu does it by default and it is difficult or impossible to disable. some monitors do, and others don't.
this is all done so that computers can display more color. as if anyone actually gives a shit. brainless nerds and marketing dorks have destroyed computing. imagine a whole group of people designing hardware or software and not one of them stops to think that perhaps rapid flickering might have a negative effect on our eyes or brain.
it's a complicated topic and not all flickering is bad. it just depends on the frequency of the flickering and the persistence of the light, ie: does it go strictly off and on like an LED or does it pulsate like an incandescent bulb. i am still learning about it and how to deal with it.
consider yourself lucky to be in the elite minority that has the highly attuned nervous system necessary to even perceive this shit. consider yourself unlucky that there are so few of us that manufacturers and developers do not give a shit about us and will continue to produce headache inducing hardware and software.
eventually we will be totally unable to use phones or computers.

bamp

>>106459116
Look what they done to my boy.
>C13 keyboard vs stock X230 keyboard

It's not (quite) as bad as it looks. I have no citation for this but all keyboards have shrunk at some point, or at least have on the X series. To me the shallower key travel hurts more than a 10% reduction in key size/spacing.

Is there a modern thinkpad that has a swappable keyboard?

>>106477555
T14/T16/P series in general.
If you consider removing 50 screws to be valid, X1 series too.

>>106448652
>>106448687
I would have issues where I'd undock and the laptop would go to sleep. Later I would try to open it up and I could not get the built-in display to come back. I either had to hard reset or plug back into the dock to get a display. (Not fun when I just arrived at a client). I think I may have solved it by mirroring the built-in and external display when docked. This is in KDE on my T540p. Not sure if that helps, but might point you in the right direction. I think it was expecting the same display configuration when waking up?

Can you get 11 gen intel for $100 on any models?

>>106470717
Wouldn't go below T14 gen 1 these days. Would probably get a T14 gen2 with a ryzen 5650U since those are now like $250 usd. My 4650u has been awesome and despite T14 being "worse quality" than the old ones, they're still quite solid and tough compared to whatever else. The performance and battery life, heat improvement going to the ryzens is better than any hot swappable battery. Don't need to swap when I get 8hrs+.

>>106478045
nope lmao
L15, yes L15 G2 with R5 5650U for 180-200 bucks is the absolute cheapest model with the same cpu generation on the market right now. Obviously it will blow the shit out of i7 gen 11 performance.

is thinkbook okay to buy? What is the difference of ideapad, thinkpad, thinkbook?

I just browse 4chan and listen to music on my laptop.

>>106478659
>ideapad
poorfag laptop
>thinkbook
slightly less poorfag laptop
>thinkbook plus
one overpriced gimmick per gen laptop
>thinkpad E/L series
poorfag laptop that is meant to be bought in bulk for business
>thinkpad T/P/X series
nobody here can afford it. Buy a second hand one from ebay

>>106478750
what do you consider a reasonable laptop. Mine had 2 core, 8gb memory, integrated graphics.

The thinkbook I'm looking at has like 6 cores, 16gb memory, integrated graphics, and 512 or 1 tb of storage.

>>106478890
A T480 from ebay will do. Don't pay for than $200 for one.
You can buy a Thinkpad as new as T14 Gen 2 but don't pay more than $300.

>>106478890
Consult the OP and start using model names or we can't help you.

>>106448652
HP USB-C Dock G5

>>106478946
https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/p/laptops/thinkbook/thinkbook-series/lenovo-thinkbook-16-gen-7-16-inch-amd/21mw009gus
vs
https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadt/thinkpad-t14-gen-6-14-inch-amd/21qj00cqus

Got a latitude not too long ago and recently added an extra line to my cell plan which with a discount gave me a fourth line that essentially pays for itself. Dawned on me that my latitude has a Sim card slot which would be perfect when I'm on sites with no WiFi and I'd normally have to hotspot my phone while usually on a call.
> pop the card in
> update all the drivers
> no wwan
> open up
> no wwan card
And the damn thing has only got 1 GB of RAM too, no wonder the thing chugs along for support having to remote in.
At least these issues have probably made me hundreds of dollars on wait time alone

>>106479234
If you show up to a site with a laptop with 1gb of RAM I'd help the owner physically throw you out. Invest in some decent tools man, that's what makes you money.

Disclaimer: you get a free pass if you're connecting up to 1970s logic controllers and it benefits you to have a real serial port, I guess.

I got given a Yoga X13 Gen 1 as a "if you fix it, you can have it" sort of thing. It's got a white light on the power, no display, and continuous beeps when I turn it on. The fan blows, but the CPU gets hot fast with the backplate off. Am I reading the beep code lists right to conclude that the mainboard's dead?

hey bros I have a T430 that I really want to buff a bit but my goodness, gen3 i7s are scarce as fuck, luckily I managed to locate a i7 3775, is it compatible with my machine?
and what else do I need to replace alongside it?
thanks pals

>>106479576
>3770*

>>106479576
Won't fit, completely different socket

>>106479559
Do a bios reset with the little button on the back, you need a stiff piece of small wire to poke thru the hole and push it. Hold it for like 60 seconds or so and try to power it on. If you can get it to boot, go update the bios, there's a fix for it now. Dont toss it, it may be fixable.

my t60 is almost vintage now. pretty wild that i can go on the modern web with an 19 year old computer. just a few more months until i hit the vintage mark (20 years). love my t60.
i have a dock and an old ibm branded lcd screen to go with it. gonna get an old ibm mouse and keyboard as well.

apparently 2 TB nvme drives cost like $200?
and 32 GB SO-DIMMs cost $150 each?
do people actually rice their thinkpads with these upgrades?

>>106478750
>poorfag laptop that is meant to be bought in bulk for business
The only differentiating factor between the L and T series is that the L series lacks the magnesium chassis but tends to come with features you'd expect from the T series such as SODIMM RAM. For a few generations the L series variant made more sense than the T series variant since the T series variant would have soldered RAM or lack of certain I/O ports.

My L series has metal hinges, IR camera, fingerprint reader, WWAN capability and a Smartcard reader. The types of features you'd expect from a proper business laptop. In fact, when my choice was between the L14 G5 and the T14 G5, the only thing I'd get from the T14 G5 would be the magnesium chassis, as the L14 G5 had the better speakers and the larger battery. But do keep yapping about how it's the "poorfag" laptop even though it tends to be a better option than the amazing legendary T series that is always underspecced to L series levels to get you to splurge out on the P series.

>>106473858
Thank you for your insight anon. You're right that being such a minority, finding a solution is harsh, even mentally, as nobody else is having this problem, half of the time you keep wondering if this is even real, or you're just an OCD schizo making a problem out of nothing.
>eventually we will be totally unable to use phones or computers.
Well if that isn't the most harrowing thing I've read all week. Old tech till the very end it is then, eh.

>>106480355
>apparently 2 TB nvme drives cost like $200?
paid $125 for mine
>and 32 GB SO-DIMMs cost $150 each?
$55
>do people actually rice their thinkpads with these upgrades?
it's worth money to have no worry about running out of RAM or storage

>>106480355
>and 32 GB SO-DIMMs cost $150 each?
the 2x32GB kit in my T480 cost me 100 eurobucks. the 2x16 in my A485 was like 60
>do people actually rice their thinkpads with these upgrades?
that and stuff like glass trackpad, better screen panel, etc, yes
>>106481510
>too retarded to swap a display panel

T480 i7 8650U, 256GB 16GB for 200 eurobucks shipped, yay or nay?

>>106481693
It's fine if both batteries are working and the screen isn't 1366x768

>>106481777
ah, perhaps I should add more context here. it only comes with the internal battery but I have a spare external, so no issue. screen is 1080p
I already have an i5 T480 that's basically fully modded, but I kinda want to get the i7 model, and my current i5 has a couple clips missing from the chassis which annoys me a little bit. what I was planning on doing basically is get the i7 model, put all the upgraded mods (better screen, glass trackpad, 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD, LiteOn keyboard, dual pipe cooler, 72Wh battery) from my i5 into the i7 chassis, put those components from the i7 into the i5 chassis, put an external battery into that (I still have the one my current i5 came with, in good health) and give the i5 laptop to my parents (they're currently on a X230 that doesn't even have a SSD and battery doesn't last very long)

P14s Gen 5 looks neat but the GPU seems a little underpowered for a little gaming and AI labs

>>106482013
Intel version has a dGPU, if you have the money for it that is.

>>106447990 (OP)
>>106451670
>>106452281
What's the baste chip config for T14 Gen 2? Do they come with decent screens unlike t480? Gave up trying to fix t480 because no reputable mobo seller as well as thunderbolt issue lottery.

>>106482204
R5 or R7 (not much difference in practice despite the core count) and 16 GB soldered. Screens are all over the place from 45% NTSC 220 nit to Adobe RGB 500 nit.

>>106482109
rtx 500 ada? That's the one that seems a little underpowered, only 4gb vram too...
And my budget is $1200 ish

I was thinking about getting an X1 Nano (Gen 1), any thoughts?

>>106483523
Just one usable port after accounting for the charger? At that point you might as well get an Air.

Hey lads, so there is this T14 gen 4 with an I5 1335U that I found for close to $400, I know that intel processors are lackluster for a few years now and that this specific series of processors is on the 10 nm node, but would you nevertheless say that it doesn't suck enough to invalidate the whole machine
Cheers

>>106484347
Why not get an i7 or Ryzen T14 G3?
It's the same chassis.
What about the battery health?

I wish those p14s gen 6 would hurry up and lower in price. The GPU having 48 gbs of memory seems fishy to me

>>106483523
Nice and portable, but I got the Z13 for the extra performance.
Same problem as >>106484215 mentioned.
So you'll probably need a thunderbolt dock, but used ones are just 30€ or so.

thinkbump

>>106485349
Same, but P16 Gen 3
Got just enough saving to blow on random crap.

>Buying new workstation laptop for work
>Only want Linux
>Don't need a gpu apart from connecting 1 or 2 monitors now and then
I know I'm probably asking in the wrong place but is this actually a good idea too buy a high end new thinkpad?
I've heard conflicting things in the last few years

>>106487775
brand new thinkpad was never worth the price especially for an individual consumer. Linux drivers also gets better the older the hardware is. Even more when you don't really need gpu.

Right now the sweet spot is buying 2021-2022 thinkpads. Just get T14/T14s /X1 Carbon/ P series from that time frame which suits your taste.

>brand new t14 gen 5
>8840u
>950 bucks including tax
why shouldnt i buy this

>>106487775
Dollar wise, none of the workstation ever does. But I heard that the cooling system on the P16 is beefy enough to keep it really cool.

>>106484215
Why do you need extra ports when a USB-C dock can have everything you need?

>>106488661
Lenovo discontinues the X1 Nano series because the X1 Carbon achieves the same weight without sacrificing ports.

anyone use an X100e? this thing is at 50% fan speed idling in the BIOS. also, battery seems kaput quick blinking orange. overall, the system is in fair condition. screen is clean and scratch free, keyboard is also clean. nice to type on. i wanted to use it airgapped without wifi to minimize distractions while journaling. is it eWaste? sell for parts? what should i do, chat?

>>106488254
>not waiting for it to descend into poorfag price bracket

>>106462229
T14 Gen 3 here and the exact same thing happens to me too

Thoughts on ThinkCentre?

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Latitude-5320-in-review-Dell-spoils-the-mouse-replacement.608322.0.html
63Wh: 10 hours and 4 minutes on WiFi Websurfing (loading a page every 30 seconds)
https://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-EliteBook-840-Aero-G8-review-Possibly-the-quietest-Intel-EVO-laptop-we-ve-ever-seen.552866.0.html
53Wh: 11 hours and 25 minutes on WiFi Websurfing
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-Surface-Laptop-4-13-Laptop-Review-Too-expensive-with-Intel-CPU.539455.0.html
47.4Wh: 7 hours and 34 minutes on WiFi Websurfing, 11 hours and 7 minutes showing a 1080p H264 video

My Latitude 5320 with an i7-1185G7 and 50Wh gets around 4 hours browsing the web. The least it ever draws from the battery with Wi-Fi on is 3.5W doing nothing, it averaged 6W when I tried to replicate the video playback test while the Surface Laptop averages 4.3W. How do I lower the power draw? You can't undervolt laptops anymore because Intel and AMD are retarded. At least I noticed that Firefox draws a metric fuckton of power when I scroll on any page

>>106490418
I've got a m73 and its pretty nice, only complaint is that any non-lenovo wifi cards prevent it from booting unless you do some modification to the bios(zero out the machine's serial code I think)

>>106490418
>laptop internals in a small desktop case
>but no display

>>106490418
Great if just need a computer to watch movies or YouTube, maybe some office work.
Decent used monitors are really cheap nowadays, so if you can snatch a smol ThinkCentre for cheap it's a great deal.
Otherwise I'd just get a normal Laptop or a used full-size desktop for cheap.

>>106490418
its nothing special and is pretty much the same as any other 1L PC (thats why the term tiny mini micro works)
>>106490517 suggests it might not be the best choice
get it if its cheap but don't prioritize it over other deals unless you like the design

>>106447990 (OP)
So, what system could I get that has the newest cpu in a "standard laptop" compact chassis? Something around a 12.5" screen size, but still kind of thick and rigid. Examples of what I'm talking about would be things like the X230, Elitebook 2570p, and the Latitude E6230. After intel 3rd gen, i'm seeing a lot of them going towards thin and light instead of just compact, and thin and light isn't exactly what i'm looking for.
I'm currently typing from an elitebook 2570p and love the little thing, but have wondered if a laptop in a similar form factor exists but with just a newer cpu without being some niche board replacement. I'm waiting on an i7-3632QM to put in it, and that should help it catch up, but the screen situation seems like it can't be helped.

>>106488796
Weight is irrelevant, the size different is huge.

I have a T450 16GB ram but I am scared because I keep getting a message that Windows 10 is going to kill my family. What should I do?

>>106491068
>>>/fglt/

>>106461804
The unsoundness of T14s doesn't end there
https://www.reddit.com/r/laptops/comments/1iu7t9r/lenovos_revolutionary_engineering_unreinforced/

>>106490418
I do have to handle these office PC's as part of my job and they're alright. We mainly switched to ordering Lenovo and HP since Dell offers shit warranty here.
>decent and relatively efficient mobile CPUs
>4K@30 or even a 4K@60 output depending on how recent they are
>some have a NIC card or you can get one to gain another port (VGA/DP/USB-C, etc)
>the AMD Zen4 versions have a 780M or 880M GPU which is ok for casual gaming
>i saw at least 2 with a riser and and low profile 3050

however
>90% are shitntel
>many are 13th/14th or the shitty core ultra rebrands
>some have the turbotrash desktop 13th/14th gen processors
>4K@60 is possible but not necessarily reliably

If you can grab a cheap Zen4 or Zen3 Ryzen for cheaper or on par with buying a used desktop it's a good enough deal.

>>106488254

because the Dell Inspiron 7560 exists, has a six core Xeon that probably roflstomps it and for 950 you can get the one with the 16gb Nvidia RTX 5000 16gb, mine has the A4000 8gb which is still very good for AAA gaymen

anyone here ever upgraded an SL410? want to swap out RAM, CPU, and maybe upgrade the HDD since its only got about 300gb and is probably fragmented to hell, just curious what I'm in for

>>106491981
why?

If you wanted a typing machine that can do light browsing and has the classic Thinkpad keyboard go grab a functional T420 and upgrade it instead.

page 9 bump

Would you rather a i9 p15 an i7 t14 gen 3?

Any way to calibrate an E6540 Latitude battery besides the standard "drain it to 0%, charge it to 100%" method? That one does not work for me. Laptop will shutdown after maybe 25 min and while showing 30% battery left and then if I turn it back on it can last for 2h while showing like 1% of battery left.

>>106494132
if you can find a way to discharge the battery while keeping the laptop plugged in (like what tlp does when you issue the recalibrate command)

How good are ProBooks

Thanks. Any sugestions for how to do it?

>>106488242
>>106488257
It's not my money though, and the value proposition doesn't really seem there for what it costs, can't believe I'm fucking considering HP zbook fury as an alternative, a fucking HP, is that really the state of things in 2025 lmao
Said it in another thread but wondering if I can convince my boss to let me buy a SFF pc and lug it around instead. At least that shit makes sense to me.
Thanks regardless anons, as a token of gratitude please enjoy this rare picture from my maymay folder

I'm looking for a thinkpad that has decent power, is built well, but also has a replaceable keyboard, ram, storage, and fan, as those are likely failure points. I was looking at the P16 or T15, but the fans are riveted to the heatsink, meaning a replacement when I would probably need it in a few years would be expensive or impossible to source.

>>106481693
>T480 i7 8650U, 256GB 16GB for 200 eurobucks shipped
update: seller accepted an offer for 175, so I ordered it. time to order some thermal paste as well, any recommendations?

Thinking about getting a used X13, but pics of the screen don't look great. What was the display like for Gen 3/4?

>>106494300
https://youtu.be/LGh4TLMifTo?feature=shared
They announced P16 Gen 3 earlier today. Though they make it significantly lighter (3 KG > 2.5 KG) and slap RTX 5090 mobile equivalent dGPU in it so I'm quite concern about the thernal performance.

Would this work in an A485?
https://ebay.us/m/3rCeXa

>>106497492
yes. I have one in mine. let me boot it up quick

>>106497492
>>106497513

>>106497546
Cool, I have been looking for a replacement since the Bluetooth on my current card seems to be malfunctioning occasionally. Either that or the Linux kernel doesn't handle it correctly. I've been getting "no controller available" with Bluetoothctl.

>>106497718
I don't use bluetooth (don't even have the packages installed to use it) so I can't help much with that. the wifi part works, no idea about BT

>>106497750
I've been planning to upgrade it for a while but irl shit has been keeping me busy

>>106497776
kek, I just ordered 3 of those a few months ago. one went into my desktop, one into my A485, and the last one into my T480. my desktop's old AX200 went into my 3rd laptop, and the one that was originally was in my A485 went into my crappy ThinkCentre that has a wlan whitelist and that was the only one I had that worked in it

hwinfo64:
idle, wi-fi on, bluetooth on, gamepad connected
>-2.8W
idle, wi-fi on, bluetooth on, wireless earbuds connected
>-6.0W
is there something wrong with the ax201 or is it windows fucking everything up?

thinkbump

>>106494194
Very solid body, so-so hinges, good modularity apart from the keyboard being riveted to the palmrest. Harder to pry open than any ThinkPad, fingernails alone won't do it.

>>106494875
On the T-series I know (up to 2021) it's just taped from both sides, no rivets

>>106498788
thinkbump

How do I actually buy one of these in EU, the retailers Lenovo points to quadruples prices on p series laptops

>>106452561
You can't, I forbid it.

Dad's T480 broke, gonna get him a T480S. Worth an extra $25 to go from an i5 to an i7? He's just going to browse the net and play online poker with it.

>>106499975
for 25 bucks I'd go for it

>>106452561
My P14s Gen 5 can play games decently.

>>106499975
yeah go for i7. i got the i5 with the gpu and wish i had just gotten the i7 with no gpu

>>106499651
>retailer
>Thinkpad
huh?

Is a 9th generation X1 with i7-1185G7 and 16GB ddr4 ram worth 440usd?

>>106496557
HOLY THICKPAD.
I'm gonna hoover one or two up in 5 years when they're 200 bucks.

>>106496557
>>106503245
I really like the design bros. How am I gonna wait 5 years for this.