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Anonymous No.106464240 >>106464417 >>106468025 >>106468244 >>106468551 >>106468658 >>106471210
/pcbg/ - PC Building General
>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Workstation: 5090, 5060Ti 16GB, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P, ASUS XG259CS
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), XG32UCWMG (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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Anonymous No.106464241 >>106464610
>News & Rumors
Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 update may cause SSD failures; DRAMless SSDs are more vulnerable.
If you have a potentially vulnerable SSD, revert Windows update, disable automatic Windows update, & use Registry Editor to set 64 MB HMB allocation policy (or disable HMB).
https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/
Anonymous No.106464417
>>106464240 (OP)
Gonna repurpose my old AM4 build into an matx format and put it in the living room hooked up to the TV. Could be fun for playing media and firing up coop games. Just need a mobo and case. Already ordered a B550M with wifi and bluetooth, and am thinking of doing the Lian Li A3 for case.
Anonymous No.106464442 >>106464488 >>106464633
My 5070 come with this anti sag dildo. Look ugly and out of place but they include it means I should use it? How big is the problem with gpu sag anyway I never had problem but then I only used dual fans gpu before. Reddit is adamant about using it or else I'll break the pcie port and burn my house down but then they told me I'd die if I didn't take the vaxx.
Anonymous No.106464484 >>106464496 >>106464552 >>106464589 >>106464730 >>106464773 >>106464779 >>106465095 >>106465447 >>106467890
It is so over for poorfags
Anonymous No.106464488 >>106464518
>>106464442
Moving the pc with a card in can fuck up the slot, just sitting there it's unlikely.
Anonymous No.106464496
>>106464484
Even Ultra is borderline poorfag config.
Anonymous No.106464518 >>106464589 >>106465051
>>106464488
I thought it's common knowledge you should remove gpu and tower cooler when moving the pc? Guess Im alright then.
Anonymous No.106464552
>>106464484
>Reflex 2
Anonymous No.106464589
>>106464484
>Mid range cards are enough for 4k 60fps + ray tracing
>b580 (roughly half a 5070 and 9070) presumably good for the same thing with framegen
>Otherwise no mention of up scaling to hit targets
Looks like poorfags be eating good. Even on the low end it looks like a 2060 super would be good for 1080p60fps.
Also looks like this is the first release with reflex 2 right?
>>106464518
>I thought it's common knowledge you should remove gpu and tower cooler when moving the pc?
You'd be surprised
If the card is uniformly sagging down that's usually totally cool if it's not too extreme, seeing a difference in the height between the front and back is whats sketchy.
Anonymous No.106464593
>>106464415
height clearance should be fine, my current cooler is 0.5mm smaller than my picked one and I still got like 5-6 mm extra clearance
Anonymous No.106464610 >>106464626
>>106464241
>24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti
this is so dumb
Anonymous No.106464626
>>106464610
I'm curious whether the base 6070 & 6070 Ti will have these memory capacities.
Anonymous No.106464633 >>106464683 >>106466231
>>106464442
Are you not capable of using a level to determine if it makes a difference or not?
Anonymous No.106464683 >>106464746
>>106464633
Right now no but I don't doubt that it'll eventually happen over time. The question is would that be a huge issue? Never heard anyone breaking their gpu or motherboard irl due to sag.
Anonymous No.106464728
Thoughts on ASUS Pro CSM business motherboards?
Anonymous No.106464730
>>106464484
having a 16 core x3d cpu in there seems super random, like what is the 2nd ccd with no x3d meant to accomplish, and 14900k because...?
how multithreaded is the game? Is the game mining bitcoin in the background
Anonymous No.106464746 >>106464846
>>106464683
I feel like you can just use your eyes to see if there is a difference as well, I hope those are available. Yes, that can cause issues down the road if it sags enough. I don't think pcbs/pcie slots were designed to support some of the coolers that are coming on these gpus.
Anonymous No.106464768 >>106464782
Would it be dumb to buy a 5080 right now? I'd be coming from a 3070
Anonymous No.106464773
>>106464484
thats entirly reasonable THO. not that i believe it will run well at recommended but if it did that would be fine.
Anonymous No.106464779 >>106465149
>>106464484
>It is so over for poorfags
it's been over for a while man but I still see 9800X3D/4060 builds out there, shit is crazy
Anonymous No.106464782
>>106464768
its poor value compared to 5070 ti
then the 24gb super versions are out soon
Anonymous No.106464804
If someone in /pcbg/ built this exact machine they'd rightfully be called retarded

yet here we are

14900K and a B580 for 4K60 (+RT ++FG)
Anonymous No.106464846 >>106464868
>>106464746
Lol at that snarky comment. I meant I can see its not sagging at all. Have you or know anyone who ever gotten problem with it beside the aesthetic?
Anonymous No.106464867
decided to return the NZXT H5 Flow case, lots of marketing on that one and I fell for it but at the end of the day its a case with no removable mesh filters, thank god for the free return period
Anonymous No.106464868
>>106464846
That makes a bit more sense, the 5070 cooler might just be small enough for it to not matter. I don't know anyone with one of the larger coolers who didn't just setup a support, but I can imagine the pcb being anything other than flat will lead to issues with enough heat cycles.
Anonymous No.106464933 >>106464971 >>106464992
Computer randomly died Friday. Psu seems to work so I got a new motherboard but when I got it all put in when I press power button lights and fans just come up for a moment before it goes back down. Never seen this before, any ideas?
Anonymous No.106464939 >>106465011 >>106469825
I'm using an old VG248 from 2013. Would a modern IPS have a better response time ? or is the chad TN panel THAT good ?
Anonymous No.106464944
Fan Control is the greatest piece of software ever released.
Anonymous No.106464971 >>106464988
>>106464933
is your mobo asrock and the cpu 9800x3d
if yes try rma the broken cpu
Anonymous No.106464988 >>106464997
>>106464971
New mobo is Asus but its 13700kf
Anonymous No.106464992 >>106465087
>>106464933
>lights and fans just come up for a moment before it goes back down
cpu most likely
Anonymous No.106464997 >>106465087
>>106464988
then try rma the cpu
it prob degraded
Anonymous No.106465011
>>106458943
>LG C4, like all oleds I know, flicker at low rgb values in the refresh rate interval. So LG C4 flickers at 144 Hz if you display rgb 31 or something along those lines. Reviewers overlook this because they are fucking retarded
Anonsan explain what you mean by this exactly, I game my reply last thread

>>106464939
too lazy to check values but you had ips' that were challanging more modern TNs for a while now so probably faster pixels and before accounting the hz too
so most likely yes but dependent on panel
ultra high end ipses were kinda currently killed or died off due to absurd pricing in certain regions so I wouldn't even buy them since oleds ate their lunch
but now I can't cope with oleds so idk anymore, maybe woled
but it would be an upgrade all around pixles, hz, color, viewingangles I guess
Anonymous No.106465051
>>106464518
just fucking put a brace you nonce
if you dont like that one then use a different one, fucking cut a pencil to size or a piece of construction cardboard tubing, or a stack of legos, or a fucking brace from amazon
It literally can only benefit you, there is absolutely no downside whatsoever
Anonymous No.106465087 >>106465099
>>106464992
>>106464997
Seems like one of the 4 ram sticks also is bad. I have no idea how while I was asleep mobo and a stick of ram died like this, theyre only 2.5 years old
Anonymous No.106465095
>>106464484
>ULTRA
>4k 60 fps
>ULTRA (W/ frame generation)
Anonymous No.106465099 >>106465128
>>106465087
does the pc start when using 2 sticks only
Anonymous No.106465128 >>106465156
>>106465099
Starts when 1, 2, or 3 sticks are in
Anonymous No.106465149
>>106464779
anon im gonna pirate and play that game on my 5600x 3060TI and there is nothing nobody can do to stop me
Anonymous No.106465156 >>106465189
>>106465128
do the error leds light up for cpu problem
Anonymous No.106465189 >>106465220
>>106465156
Im not sure i didn't see, are you thinking the CPU is actually broken and only able to handle 4 RAM sticks and not that any one of them is actually bad?
Anonymous No.106465220 >>106465267 >>106465473
>>106465189
Just check the mobo when you start the pc. unless it mega cheap one it should have error leds

if it was the 1 broken ram stick then the pc should work normally when you have 2 in
13000 line cpus had degradation issues so its possible its fucked, assuming you used it for years.
Its possible the cpu is fine and its other parts/unplugged cables/poorly seated parts ofc.
Anonymous No.106465267 >>106465473
>>106465220
I will try different configurations of the ram. Like I said it starts with 1, 2 and 3 sticks of ram in but I didnt try various combinations to see if it's always the same stick of ram that makes it stop. I dont really want to buy a new cpu and I dont exactly need 64 go of ram but not sure how I would be able to tell how stable it is. If I do have to get a new cpu as well then it would probably be better to return the mobo and get a lga 1851 cpu/mobo i assume
Anonymous No.106465447
>>106464484
>9800X3D
>5090
I'm good
Anonymous No.106465473 >>106465526
>>106465267
>>106465220
It does seem like the stick, if i take out one of the good 3 and replace it with this bad stick it still doesnt turn on. With the bad stick in i didnt notice that any of these lights even flashed on. With that one stick out the CPU flashed red momentarily and the DRAM light was orange for some of the startup and when on no lights are on, which seems like normal behavior to me
Anonymous No.106465490 >>106465510 >>106465618 >>106467663
how comes everybody on this board has a 5090
literally everybody
Anonymous No.106465491 >>106465510 >>106465527 >>106469200 >>106471223 >>106471236
Poorfag with a 4080 here. Where do I pirate game safely?
Anonymous No.106465510 >>106465631
>>106465490
This is a white mans board, and all white men use a 5090. Straight white men will then pair that with a raptor lake i7/i9 or a 265k/285k, gays will use an x3d.
>>106465491
old.reddit.com/r/freemediaheckyeah.
Anonymous No.106465526
>>106465473
my pc always blinks the cpu led for a few sec, I assume its related to 1 x4 cpu power cable not being plugged in

reddit posts mention mobo battery change issue
psu power cable issue
clear cmos
thermal paste on cpu pins issue

so go figure
Anonymous No.106465527
>>106465491
i torrent all my games (well most)
have access to a public torrent page like 1337.to for example and then maybe work on getting an invite to a private torrent tracker
some torrent clients also have a built in search function like qbittorrent
Depending on your country you might want to use a vpn
Anonymous No.106465528
PISS OUT MY ASS
Anonymous No.106465545
Anonymous No.106465618 >>106467634
>>106465490
>4090 was the only perf upgrade u can buy last time
>5090 is the only perf upgrade u can buy now
tech stalled and u dont get perf upgrades except paying, everyone pooled up to the max tier because there is no where else to go
along with buying into the most price effective card, because it either holds or gains value over time, like buying into real estate market, it costs a bit to get in, but then you are in
this is jensen end goal everyone on a 90 series
he cornered the market
Anonymous No.106465631
>>106465510
I'm a honorary nigger (balkanigger)
Anonymous No.106465773 >>106465811 >>106465942
is it worth buying a 9600x over a 7600 if the price difference is just 10%?
Anonymous No.106465811
>>106465773
has the 14600k sale ogne out
Anonymous No.106465899
homo thugs ridin' with amd
Anonymous No.106465915 >>106465973 >>106466045
How do I know if the am5 platform is training RAM or something is wrong? I heard that it could take up to 45 minutes?
Anonymous No.106465942 >>106471274
>>106465773
Yes
Anonymous No.106465973 >>106466089
>>106465915
do I even want to upgrade to am5 or just wait for am6 with ddr6 ram
seems troublesome if am5 pc is black screening for an hour and they think it could be normal
Anonymous No.106466043 >>106466615
>Ips sucks
>VA sucks
>Oled sucks
i cannot buy a new monitor
Anonymous No.106466045 >>106466082
>>106465915
Mine took like ~2 mins to train RAM for the first couple startups. I flipped the RAM training memory on in BIOS and set it to retrain every 30 days. Now my avg BIOS is 20 seconds. But still longer than my old AM4 build
Anonymous No.106466082 >>106466125
>>106466045
Which setting is that called?
Anonymous No.106466089 >>106466170
>>106465973
>upgrade to am5
From what?
Did you get a 5700x3d back when it was $150 ?
Anonymous No.106466097 >>106466158 >>106466615
Why are there no 55+ inch IPS tv's anymore? I don't want fucking flickering burning out OLED. I don't want smearing haloing VA/miniled. I just want a normal fucking tv that lasts forever like they used to.
Anonymous No.106466125
>>106466082
I think it depends on your mobo, but on my MSI it's called Memory Context Restore. It will remember the trained timings and just stick with that each startup. You can also select the time interval for it to recheck and rerun the analysis. Should be under OC/DRAM settings
Anonymous No.106466157
How do I get the Chinese to make me a custom screen. I don't understand why there aren't portrait targeted monitors yet that are "wider" when in portrait/vertical orientation. Is such a thing even possible? What resolution would it be at?
Anonymous No.106466158 >>106466615
>>106466097
>IPS
>last forever
Nice joke. My last IPS TV got stuck pixels and dead backlight after 3 years.
Anonymous No.106466170 >>106466859
>>106466089
nah I got 5600x and every chart showed the difference in games to be fucking nothing so I didnt buy it
Anonymous No.106466231
>>106464633
zoomers and most millennials dont own any tools.
Anonymous No.106466411 >>106466472 >>106466615
>2025
>4k monitor selection is still abysmal
What are some new 32 inch IPS 120Hz+ NON CURVED options out there?
Anonymous No.106466472 >>106466506
>>106466411
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&D=120000,600000&P=2,11,13&C=0&sort=price&page=1
Anonymous No.106466506 >>106466573
>>106466472
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#F=800100000,812800000&r=384002160&D=144000,600000&P=2,11,13&C=0
41 monitor in total
Anonymous No.106466558 >>106466605 >>106466615 >>106466646
Is there a large leeway for error when building a PC? Don't wanna break an expensive piece.
Anonymous No.106466573 >>106466618
>>106466506
it's 44 if you include 120hz monitors as originally specified.
Anonymous No.106466605 >>106466758
>>106466558
Only part you can really fuck up and proven your fault is the motherboard/cpu pins. The rest you either can correct easily or RMA. Take that information as you will.
Anonymous No.106466615 >>106466758
>>106466043
If you are not forced what's the point
depends on what you want though
idk if all the downsides are that bad

>>106466097
I know there a tv IPS panel that is on 75"

>>106466158
>Nice joke. My last IPS TV got stuck pixels and dead backlight after 3 years.
"lcd lasts forever" meme ringing true

>>106466411
32" so much more expensive than 27" slop
might fuck around and buy the el cheapo Gigabyte ones

>>106466558
as long as you don't bend motherboard pins, crack your ram, crack gpu pcie slot
Anonymous No.106466618 >>106466627
>>106466573
sorry, 43 total options.
Anonymous No.106466627
>>106466618
there are some duplicates listed4xrrw
Anonymous No.106466646 >>106466758 >>106468709
>>106466558
its always a risk
making a small judgement error, being a bit too impatient, dropping shit, scraping things with a screwdriver can destroy hundreds of dollars in a second

you can minimize the risks by watching a video of someone building a pc. Understanding the basics, taking the time to read the mobo/case manuals for instructions. Having good environment to build with soft surfaces, good light, right tools.

The parts most likely to be fucked are am4 cpu pins, or you smear thermal paste on active areas. The mobo as it has large attack area and individual components. Gpu, ram and ssd can be fucked if you insert them incorrectly using force. Dont use 3rd party psu cables. The cpu cooler is heavy and maybe you let the case drop and it rips the mobo apart.
Anonymous No.106466690 >>106466717 >>106466864
What's the real downside of minileds compared to IPS beside the price?
Anonymous No.106466717
>>106466690
often its problematic firmware, the minileds dont work flawlessly or are annoying to fiddle with, and usually you paid minileds with VA tech for less bloom thanks to better native contrast.
IPS sucks image quality wise so on tha front theres no downside to not using va minileds, va obviously has slower pixel response times so theres more smearing but its tolerable. You would not buy VA miniled for competitive fps games.
Anonymous No.106466747
You must be a special kind of retard if you could break the RAM or GPU by forcing them in. I was 11 didn't know shit about computer, didn't know video tutorial existed and could open the PC and insert my new RAM stick. It can literally go in one way.
Anonymous No.106466758 >>106466783
>>106466605
>>106466615
>>106466646
So mainly I need to be careful to slot things correctly and in the right place, thanks for the warnings and advice bwos!
Anonymous No.106466783
>>106466758
You'll be fine. Just dont jam things in, be slow with any screwdriver work, and be gentle with the fan headers.
Anonymous No.106466805
what other case besides fractal north have mesh side intake with fan intakes for gpu cooling
Anonymous No.106466859 >>106468282
>>106466170
what do you need AM5 for? Why not just upgrade your GPU
Anonymous No.106466864 >>106466896
>>106466690
Everything has a glow around it, you won't notice it until you are told about it though. My friends tv has it and I didn't notice until I learned about it here but now I can't not see it.
Anonymous No.106466896 >>106466902 >>106466927 >>106466975
>>106466864
IPS has glow too but never bothered me. Is it worse with minileds?
Anonymous No.106466902 >>106466921
>>106466896
I watch stuff more than game now and it's beginning to grate on me
Anonymous No.106466921
>>106466902
I have an OLED TV for that. I wear glasses though so even that has a glow lmao.
Anonymous No.106466927
>>106466896
on ips the glow shows as elevated black levels everywhere
on miniled you can have hdr and have absolute black square next 1k + nit area which will bloom next to the dim square.
Anonymous No.106466975
>>106466896
It's different, IPS just has static glowing that makes blacks a bit greyer. minileds make things "halo" which gives objects a glowing ring around them. It's much more noticeable and annoying to look at.
Anonymous No.106467016 >>106467025 >>106467048
Built a new PC but now it sits in the corner and I am still on my shitbox. Why did I even bother...
Anonymous No.106467025
>>106467016
sounds tough.
Anonymous No.106467031 >>106467068
Yes Im vaccinated and boostered. How could you tell?
Anonymous No.106467048
>>106467016
Let me guess you got the Modernia shot didn't you? Well there's no helping you at this point, might as well send your computer to me since you aren't going to use it.
Anonymous No.106467065 >>106467108 >>106467257 >>106467280 >>106467353
hi anons, can I get a glance over for my build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KTdvJn
I boughteded the msi 5070ti trio already since that shit keeps going in and out of stock and other anons said GPU never go on sale for black friday (if at all) and maybe theres also another drought coming later this year
just want to know if all the components are ok plus thoughts on the monitor if you own it
its for gaming and video editing and I want it to last 8 years minimum without changing much
before you say it, the 5090 goes for 3500 usd in my country and the 5080 goes for 1500 usd. The 5070ti was barely above 900 so thats why I pulled the trigger on it
Anonymous No.106467068 >>106467107
>>106467031
What delightfully retarded slop.
Anonymous No.106467107
>>106467068
thats no aislop, thats 1000 years in photoshop
Anonymous No.106467108 >>106467257
>>106467065
whats up with the random 1 and 2 tb nvmes. just use 4tb's for video

What application actually uses that much ram? Local llms?
You probably want an oled monitor so you dont have to game on an ips. Might help with vid editing since how else do you see accurate black levels or hdr.
Anonymous No.106467257 >>106467280 >>106467350
>>106467108
>>106467065
the 2tb is gen5 for os and main programs, just cause I can
the 1tb is for cache only
for ram its recommended in the OP, I also know 64gb is enough, but 96gb is cause I can, if its detrimental ill just go 64gb. the 96gb kit is 6000mhz cl30 so its both fast for gaming and high capacity for productivity applications
Man, is oled really that good? the fucking burn in keeps looking like a problem and im one of those sickos that leaves a screen on one thing for longer than 15mins. the real main issue i have with oled is text fringing compared to ips, unironically the fringing on oled gives me a headache for how wrong it looks in my eyes
Anonymous No.106467280 >>106467568
>>106467065
>>106467257
>9950x3d
>120mm air cooler
I would divert funds from the random m.2 drives you threw in into an aio.
Anonymous No.106467350 >>106467374
>>106467257
Id get 64gb ram, it feels a bit silly to spend more while compromising on the gpu that actually gets used.
until lg releases an rgb strip panel the oleds will have unusual sub pixel structure, guess you could do something like have an 55" oled tv and its so far away that you dont notice the fringing. Or look out for a 27" 4k oled with extremely high ppi.
Anonymous No.106467353 >>106467739 >>106467805
>>106467065
>9950X3D
>5070TI
I've seen these pairings many times
I don't get it and never will
Anonymous No.106467374 >>106467409
>>106467350
>guess you could do something like have an 55" oled tv and its so far away that you dont notice the fringing
How far away would you have to sit to do that? Would 6 feet be enough?
Anonymous No.106467398 >>106467484
6% of gamers have 16 GB VRAM GPUs. 6%.
Anonymous No.106467409 >>106467562
>>106467374
go to a store with tvs and check them out urself to see if they look fine at a certain distance
Anonymous No.106467428 >>106467575
Fellas where do you buy shit in europe? Amazon prices are outrageous.
Anonymous No.106467484 >>106467570
>>106467398
according to this board only 6% of gamers can play the latest games at all
Anonymous No.106467562 >>106467646
>>106467409
But all the stores do is play preset videos, how can I test text on them?
Anonymous No.106467568 >>106467874
>>106467280
I dont wanna
fight me
[spoiler]I didnt pick the aio to be cheap, I just dont trust nor like aio, the pee ass has 120 cfm and the noctua g2 150cfm, is it really that much of a difference and is it really impossible to air cool the 9950x3d?[/spoiler]
Anonymous No.106467570
>>106467484
According to 100% of youtubers too
Anonymous No.106467575
>>106467428
I get paid a stipend for being the town rapist, it's hard work but an honest living. Just save up from whatever you do for a few extra months, waiting always pays off when you finally pull the trigger.
Anonymous No.106467586 >>106467605 >>106467634
Intel's upcoming "Nova Lake-S" introduces a completely new microarchitecture and under-the-hood enhancements. However, the appearance of the latest shipping manifests indicates that Intel is ensuring its partners receive early samples to make necessary software/firmware optimizations. And now, it appears that the 52-core top SKU will ship with speeds that may exceed 5.0 GHz. An early engineering sample confirms the appearance of test hardware in partner shipments, which means that Intel is already moving validation pieces to OEMs and cooling vendors so they can start tuning systems well ahead of qualification samples and mass production. The 52-core part is a tiled design that pairs two compute tiles with a single SoC tile. Each compute tile houses eight P-Cores based on Coyote Cove and 16 efficient E-Cores based on Arctic Wolf, while the SoC tile contributes four low-power Arctic Wolf LPE-cores. That gives Nova Lake-S a 16 P-Core, 32 E-Core, and 4 LPE-Core configuration totaling 52 cores for the top SKU, with single-tile variants offering a 28-core option.

Intel will also offer big-cache bLLC variants aimed at workloads that benefit from larger on-die caches. On the platform side, Nova Lake-S will use the LGA-1954 socket with a 45x37.5 mm footprint, which matches LGA-1851 sizing and should preserve broad cooler compatibility even if some vendors need offset plates or other tweaks for optimal contact. The P-cores will ship without SMT, following the same choice made for Arrow Lake, while Intel's cache-first bLLC approach looks intended to counter AMD's stacked 3D V-Cache strategy. For now, the 4.8 GHz reading comes from an engineering sample and Pre-QS shipments; expect clock speeds to be refined upward as QS samples roll out and Intel moves closer to a formal launch. Given Intel's ambition to re-capture a significant part of the desktop market share, we can expect to see boost clock speeds north of 5.0 GHz.
Anonymous No.106467605
>>106467586
Explain all this gobbledygook like I am a retard. Will this help me get more fpsesses in my shooty shooty bang bangs?
Anonymous No.106467623 >>106467647
What would the upgrade be like for someone on 4th gen to modern day shit?
Anonymous No.106467628 >>106467647 >>106467659 >>106467734
>NVIDIA's Discrete GPU Market Share Swells To 94%, AMD Drops To 6% In Q2 2025, 27% Increase In AIB Shipments
Anonymous No.106467634
>>106465618
>>106467586
What does this mean for gaymen?
Anonymous No.106467646 >>106472239
>>106467562
oh well its probably not a big issue on 4k 32" ppi and newest gen panels
you can use the IPS panel for text heavy work and check out the oled for media and whatever quality control for video work after you did most editing on ips
Anonymous No.106467647 >>106467676
>>106467623
4th gen intel Core i-series? Like a 4770k or whatever? Basically anything from the last 5 years will be a huge upgrade.
>>106467628
And yet 4chan/reddit/techfluencers keep shilling Ra-ZION garbage to (You)
Anonymous No.106467659 >>106467676 >>106467678
>>106467628
Nvidia announced that the 5060 is the fastest selling xx60 card ever in their earnings call
Anonymous No.106467663
>>106465490
>how comes everybody on this board has a 5090
>literally everybody
nigvidia fags and shills
Anonymous No.106467675
i see its that time of the day again
Anonymous No.106467676 >>106468069
>>106467659
>>106467647
now memestone has to save AYMD before the 50xx super refreshes bury them
Anonymous No.106467678 >>106467694
>>106467659
presumably just because there are more people who can afford to build PCs in 2025 compared to any moment in the past... like, even though GPUs were objectively cheaper 10 years ago, I definitely had access to far less money than I do now, so a 600 euro GPU today is more accessible to me than a 250 euro GPU a decade ago
I assume that holds true for everyone as they develop themselves career-wise and/or go from kid/teenager to proper working adult.
Anonymous No.106467694
>>106467678
I haven't had a job in almost 10 years.
Anonymous No.106467734
>>106467628
>27% Increase In AIB Shipments
That's insane. That means they shipped an even bigger shipload of nvidia cards for them to still have gained even more marketshare.
Anonymous No.106467739
>>106467353
9950X3D is for playing two games at once + plus compiling Gentoo very fast
Anonymous No.106467805
>>106467353
Some niggas just don't want a 5090 firestarter in their house. I get it and I always will.
Anonymous No.106467874
>>106467568
Sorry man, you're good. I was thinking about temps when I was tinkering with shit and stress testing. It runs like a champ on my old nhd15, just keep thinking about it shooting up to 300w in some stress test and instantly to 95c. Was pretty neat.
Anonymous No.106467890
>>106464484
intel arc bros
WE WON
Anonymous No.106467943 >>106467953 >>106467964 >>106469837 >>106472239
is 5090 melting thing a meme or does it actually happen
i want to get one for the vram but not if its gonna burn my house down
Anonymous No.106467953 >>106468022
>>106467943
It's a meme until it happens to you.
Anonymous No.106467964 >>106468022
>>106467943
>is 5090 melting thing a meme
the 600W/12V cable explodes if the copper wires aren't thick enough.
as far as I know some AIBs will draw more than that on spikes causing the burn.
Anonymous No.106468022 >>106468057 >>106468095
>>106467964
>>106467953
is there a version that it happens the least to?
Anonymous No.106468025 >>106468076 >>106471210
>>106464240 (OP)
i used to have that case. antec p180 mini, iirc. nice example with a rare heatsink. looks passive. it was a good case for the time with plenty of useful features. used it as a truenas server for years.
Anonymous No.106468057
>>106468022
>is there a version that it happens the least to?
get a PSU with the 600W and use the cable that comes with it or your GFX. besides you ONLY have to use the cables that come with a PSU, I can't believe I didn't know that until recently. 9070 XTs with the 600W draw less on spikes apparently. this is all what I read, and I have a 9070 XT with the 600W
Anonymous No.106468069
>>106467676
>memestone
It's more of a PT/RT & FG catch-up feature.
Radeon only has the driver overhead advantage for older CPUs, but NVIDIA doesn't care about selling video cards to people with those CPUs.
Cards like the RTX 5050 & 5060 8GBs are mostly bought up by system integrators.
Anonymous No.106468076 >>106468093 >>106468146 >>106471210
>>106468025
whaddya think of this?
Anonymous No.106468093 >>106468119 >>106468121 >>106468257
>>106468076
I dont understand passive meme when a fan that runs at low rpm is impossible to hear anyway
the lack of movement has no advantages
Anonymous No.106468095
>>106468022
Astral with the per pin monitoring probably. I'm waiting til next release cycle just to see if that becomes standard.
Anonymous No.106468119 >>106468147
>>106468093
They're useful in a workshop environment where you maybe don't want all that dust being pulled into your computer. On the consumer end? Meme
Anonymous No.106468121 >>106468147
>>106468093
>passive meme when a fan that runs at low rpm is impossible to hear anyway
>the lack of movement has no advantages
I totally agree I just found that one looking at noctuas. I just got some noctua fans for the first time they're aight. are they really the best?
Anonymous No.106468146 >>106469841
>>106468076
nice. i can't hear a thing. near zero dust. looks compelling.
Anonymous No.106468147 >>106468171 >>106468208
>>106468119
Id rather rely on a filter on the intake + positive pressure

>>106468121
fans are relatively simple technology and once they reached certain quality level decade ago theres not much room to improve.
you need to get to stuff like quality of sound at specific decibel, accessories, paint finish, qc, support and brand value to decide to spend the extra for noctua
Anonymous No.106468171 >>106468191
>>106468147
I got a 120 at 1700 for rear exhaust and the 2000 for the top of my 9700x since they weren't too pricy. I wonder if I should replace my thermalalright cooler with a noctua, but the 2000 took the heat off my CPU pins and I'm ridiculously impressed.
Anonymous No.106468191
>>106468171
I wouldnt invest extra unless its part of some sort of project to make coherent visual look for the case.
Anonymous No.106468197 >>106468204 >>106468257
all my case fans are on a hardware controller directly connected to the psu and remain off until they need to be used. cpu fan is on motherboard pwm with modified curve in BIOS. no need to use the fans unless there's a load on the system like video editor or games. my preference.
Anonymous No.106468204
>>106468197
lol optimal
Anonymous No.106468208 >>106468224
>>106468147
Positive pressure/filters doesn't keep out everything. Some old guys just want to work and not worry about cleaning out their computer shop computer. You're also not running anything crazy on these, just spreadsheets and maybe some light cadwork.
Anonymous No.106468224 >>106468312
>>106468208
I don't think a passive cooler will stop dust
Anonymous No.106468244 >>106468306 >>106468418
>>106464240 (OP)
Such gay GPU recommendations. 94% is using Nvidia. Why not 5060 Ti?
Anonymous No.106468257 >>106468281 >>106468459
>>106468197
i took all the fans out of the components. i only have 2 large intake fans, manually controlled and completely off practically all of the time.

>>106468093
the point is that you can't improve on no moving parts. chances are if you can get away with running a fan at inaudible speed, then you can probably do away with it completely. if you actually need air on it, then you're gonna hear it.
Anonymous No.106468281 >>106468329
>>106468257
you're forcing a lot more metal in the case
more failure points because every warmish part needs to be glued to a large metal block instead of just having moderate air flow over it
you limit an expensive parts watt use because you dont want a silent fan on it

the trade offs dont make sense
Anonymous No.106468282 >>106468513
>>106466859
I have 5700x3d and a 9070xt, what is your answer for me then? I also want to skip AM5 entirely if possible.
Anonymous No.106468306 >>106468418
>>106468244
The autistic jeet schizo who makes the threads unironically bought a 9060 XT, the 5060 TI is much better if for some reason you need 16GB, if you dont need the 16GB you are better skipping and saving for a 5070 though as they are selling them at msrp.
Anonymous No.106468312
>>106468224
I think you're underestimating how much sawdust gets around workshops. We're not talking about a little bit of dust that exists in your home, we're talking about sawdust getting and how it gets everywhere. I'm sure there's some autistic setup where this would be unnecessary, but some guy who spends all day working on wood probably isn't too interested. Again, I'm not talking about your home (not filled with sawdust) and a passively cooled pc.
Anonymous No.106468329 >>106468343
>>106468281
good thing that you can decide for yourself what makes sense for you and so can i. i have zero regrets ripping the fans out of my components.
Anonymous No.106468343 >>106468384
>>106468329
it seems like if you dont care about pc performance which involves using fans to dissipate the heat you'd just be better off buying some chink mini pc
Anonymous No.106468353 >>106468409
anyone have any recommendations about a caster wheel solution for large towers? my shit's just heavy enough to be annoying to move around. flux pro btw
Anonymous No.106468384
>>106468343
perhaps
but i also need PCIe slots, don't care about size and have built PCs all my life so i just don't see myself getting a prebuilt out of principle. i like the idea of passive cooling dictating my TDP ceiling and seeing how close i can get to it.
Anonymous No.106468409
>>106468353
Anonymous No.106468417 >>106468424
Made the mistake of buying a Razer mouse due to limited options and constrained time. It's been near a decade since my last run-in with them. Zero improvements. Same poor design. Same bad engineering. Same horrible aesthetics. Same god-awful everything. Razer is like a case of herpes embodying the 00s that keeps showing back up from time to time, and every time is as miserable as before. Generic office mice are superior to the absolute garbage they peddle.
Anonymous No.106468418 >>106468465 >>106468519 >>106468600
>>106468244
The 5060 Ti 16GB is recommended as an entry-level workstation card.

>>106468306
I don't own a 9060 XT.
The 5060 Ti 16GB is in an awkward spot, considering the performance gap to the 5070, and you're already spending over $400 for a video card.
Anonymous No.106468424 >>106468440
>>106468417
I ordered a Deathadder V3 last night, and you're saying this.
Anonymous No.106468440 >>106468736
>>106468424
should have went with a basilisk v3, since the g502 form factor is what patricians use
Anonymous No.106468459
>>106468257
based
Anonymous No.106468465 >>106468486
>>106468418
>matches 4070 and 3080 in recent titles outside of console ports and unreal engine slop games
>way more efficient than the 9060xt ( can be undervolted to 120-140W without any performance loss)
>no voltage spikes
>when OC it comes really close to both the 4070 and 3080.
>trade blows with the 9070 XT and 4070 when path tracing (yes is a meme but its there)

That card by all means is a more power efficient 4070/3080 while the 9060 XT is closer to a 3070 TI when you remove call of duty and the usual unreal engine console port slop boosting those numbers.

I'll do say its not only the 5060 ti though, all the 50x series stutters way more on those unreal engine ports, is why you see the 5070 TI being slower than 9070XT or the 5090 not being that much faster than the 4090 but when you look at other engines benchmark you'll see the difference this is for example battlefield 6, look at how much the 5090 smokes the 4090
Anonymous No.106468486 >>106468518
>>106468465
>inb4 you are making it up
this is elden ring
Anonymous No.106468513
>>106468282
Just play games
Anonymous No.106468518
>>106468486
3080 was pretty good purchase in 2020
Anonymous No.106468519 >>106468534
>>106468418
you should be recommending nvidia cards for gamers
Anonymous No.106468534 >>106468541 >>106468573
>>106468519
There's a big gaming performance gap between the 5060 Ti & the 5070, you might as well just get a 5070 if you're spending over $400 on a video card at that point.
5070 provides better gaming price/performance than the 5060 Ti 16GB; you don't need 16GB for 1440p gaming.
The settings that require over 12GB at that resolution are too taxing on the 5070 GPU anyway.
Anonymous No.106468541 >>106468557
>>106468534
the 5070 isn't recommended either, only a 5070 Ti
Anonymous No.106468551 >>106468685 >>106469730 >>106469766 >>106469803 >>106469834
>>106464240 (OP)
wait a minute.
so you're telling me.
the only reason NVidia GPUs appear to be less power hungry and more efficient than AMD is because they offload work to the CPU, resulting in their CPU driver overhead? and all the power saved at the GPU is hidden in CPU power consumption resulting in equivalent total system power draw?
Anonymous No.106468557
>>106468541
It should be, considering it's been selling for MSRP for months
Anonymous No.106468560 >>106468592
Reflex 2 will be out by 9/19/25
Anonymous No.106468566 >>106468571
cases keep getting more expensive
Anonymous No.106468571
>>106468566
If you buy an evo xl it’s the last case you will ever need to buy
Anonymous No.106468573
>>106468534
If i lived on a humid place with high temps like Brasil or SEA and i cant afford AC i would take the 5060 TI over the 5070 200W+ compared to the 5060 TI undervolted to as low as 75W-90W
Anonymous No.106468592 >>106468601
>>106468560
source?
Anonymous No.106468594 >>106468602 >>106468643
>DV2
I CANT WAIT FOR THE NEXT WAVE OF OLED SLOP MONITORS TO COME OUT
Anonymous No.106468600
>>106468418
> and you're already spending over $400 for a video card.
>9060XT 16gb $369 on newegg/bestbuy/amazon
>5060 ti 16gb $429
i would that excuse if the 5060ti was not selling at msrp but now that they do there is no reason to recommend a 9060 XT at all, if you dont want to recommend a budget option there then at least put the 5070 instead of that meme card
Anonymous No.106468601 >>106468832
>>106468592
The new dying light game comes out on the 19th which means the GRD that week or the week before will include reflex 2. Wouldn’t be surprised if the driver this week has it.
Anonymous No.106468602
>>106468594
Boomers are readying their wallets right now
Time to dump another $10,000 on a TV they've been waiting for this
Anonymous No.106468643
>>106468594
>per scene interpolation
>light sensors to adjust black levels
I mean this is cool in addition to what DV does which is mainly per scene brightness control, but this all seems really pointless to the average person. Also pirating a DV2 movie will probably be aids.
Anonymous No.106468658 >>106468675 >>106468688 >>106468992
>>106464240 (OP)
i think my RTX 3060 Ti is crapping out on me. i'm not looking for a major upgrade; i just want to replace the card without spending too much. what card should i look into? i'm fine hunting for a used card, too.
Anonymous No.106468675 >>106468937
>>106468658
any 16GB VRAM card really, either brand.
Anonymous No.106468685 >>106469766
>>106468551
why isn't this a bigger issue and why did people only find out about it during BF6 beta?
Anonymous No.106468688
>>106468658
Do you think you can hold until black friday? the budget GPU market is fucked to the point where your best option is a $499 gpu that is considered mid range, maybe hope the 9060 XT (16gb) goes below msrp at $300 is probably the best you can get and sometimes they get returned and you can gamble on an open box sale same goes with the 5060 TI 16gb if you really cant afford the 5070
Anonymous No.106468709 >>106468720 >>106468795
>>106466646
>am4 cpu pins
is am5 any better?
Anonymous No.106468720
>>106468709
you have to be a retard intentionally trying to fuck your shit up to damage the CPU pins on anything from the last 20 years.
or a woman who loves to drop things because tehe cutesy ditz.
Anonymous No.106468736
>>106468440
I bought it to replace a wired Zowie EC2 mouse.
Too bad Zowie doesn't give a fuck about selling wired mice anymore
Anonymous No.106468795
>>106468709
Anonymous No.106468832
>>106468601
>we got reflex 2 before a single new preset for dlss 4
I'm starting to believe they are holding that on purpose to match the amd red stone launch
Anonymous No.106468908 >>106468924 >>106469005 >>106469056 >>106469760 >>106469929 >>106470417
leaker here
new amd driver drops on thursday
pretty average update
october update will be crazy big
Anonymous No.106468924 >>106469048
>>106468908
Tell your handlers to hurry up with that 9950x3d2
Anonymous No.106468937 >>106468955 >>106468980 >>106468992 >>106469034
>>106468675
Upgrade to a 7600XT, got it thanks.
Anonymous No.106468955 >>106468975
>>106468937
the 7600 XT is really bad anon, it does not even have access to fsr 4
Anonymous No.106468975
>>106468955
he's not playing at 4k, who cares.
Anonymous No.106468980
>>106468937
It's barely a sidegrade.
Anonymous No.106468989 >>106468995
would a rack with 8 h100s be okay for a homelab?
Anonymous No.106468992 >>106469456
>>106468658
>>106468937
you know what, before you look to upgrade, what do you mean by crapping out?
have you been updating your drivers to something released after the 5000 series launched? are you plugging multiple displays into your gpu? are you trying to use features like dlss and frame gen?
Anonymous No.106468995 >>106469000
>>106468989
just buy the mini-PC.
Anonymous No.106469000 >>106469023 >>106469043
>>106468995
holy shit i didn't know that was a thing, thanks
Anonymous No.106469005 >>106469048
>>106468908
How big could it be? It's just drivers.
Anonymous No.106469012
>stuck on the bios splash screen and a green mobo light
>hit reset after 30 seconds and it boots normal
Any ideas what was this? Just a very long boot time? am5 bug? ram issue?
Anonymous No.106469023 >>106469036 >>106469043
>>106469000
idk if it ever released, but they make all kinds of professional stuff which would be more suitable in a home office than a warehouse server rack. wendell on level1techs talks about this kind of stuff once in a while.
or slap an rtx 6000 in something.
Anonymous No.106469034
>>106468937
Thats a downgrade
Anonymous No.106469036 >>106469049
>>106469023
that's what i had in mind, a threadripper with a 6000 but my inner jew was thinking i could get datacenter parts for cheap due to surplus or depreciation
Anonymous No.106469043
>>106469000
>>106469023
https://youtu.be/zxP6B2HZ_IY
I think this is the video I was thinking about. nvidia arm professional desktop.
Anonymous No.106469048 >>106469056 >>106472352
>>106468924
not my department

>>106469005
adrenaline is getting a facelift
Anonymous No.106469049
>>106469036
bubble hasn't popped yet.
Anonymous No.106469056 >>106469077
>>106469048
>>106468908
what the FUCK are you guys making for VALVE FREMONT, and maybe DECKARD?
Anonymous No.106469077 >>106469090
>>106469056
2028
thats all i can say
Anonymous No.106469090 >>106469108 >>106469128 >>106469198
>>106469077
no shot they're releasing a 6-core PC with the equivalent of a 7600 in 2028.
Anonymous No.106469108
>>106469090
since amdvlk has been depreciated for radv, look forward to fun stuff head.
Anonymous No.106469128 >>106469148
>>106469090
This garbage has RDNA3.5 or whatever variant of it, DOA.
Anonymous No.106469148 >>106469191 >>106469198
>>106469128
where are you getting that info from?
Anonymous No.106469191
>>106469148
All AMD APUs currently in development have RDNA3.5 GPU cores.
And Valve doesn't shop for the latest APUs, the SoC for the Steam Deck was originally designed for the MS Surface.
Microsoft didn't place any order for that chip, so AMD pitched it to Valve.
Anonymous No.106469198
>>106469090
>>106469148
Anonymous No.106469200
>>106465491
Look for the Reddit piracy megathread
Anonymous No.106469456 >>106469460 >>106469461 >>106469468 >>106469540
>>106468992
the GPU frequently crashes, sometimes several times a day. it happens across various games, so i have to assume it's a hardware issue, but i'm not sure what exactly. it seems to work better when changing the slot it's in, but it reverts to crashing after a day or two, so it may just be a fluke.
yeah the drivers are updated and it never seems to change anything about the crashes. i've always used two displays. and idk if i'm using those features; i just leave everything at default.
Anonymous No.106469460
>>106469456
btw i'm not that anon that replied about the 7600xt lol. he was trolling.
Anonymous No.106469461
>>106469456
that's why it's crashing. roll back your drivers to 566.36 and unplug extra monitors from the nvidia card.
Anonymous No.106469468
>>106469456
Get MSI Afterburner and downclock the GPU Core by -50~10MHz (there's an offset slider in the main screen).
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/msi-afterburner-4-6-6-beta-6-with-unofficial-rdna4-support.456792/
https://github.com/LunarPSD/NvidiaOverclocking/blob/main/Nvidia%20Overclocking.md
The guide is about overclocking, but you just have to move the slider to the left for downclocking.
Anonymous No.106469534 >>106469570 >>106469574
What's the best storage setup for budget/entry PC?

1TB SSD + 1TB HDD?
Anonymous No.106469540
>>106469456
Why don't you say what error shows up when it crashes?
Anonymous No.106469570 >>106469599
>>106469534
why would you buy an hdd?
Anonymous No.106469574 >>106469599
>>106469534
don't even bother with an HDD and use all the cash for a 2TB M.2. if you're on a budget build, then your mobo likely has only 1 or 2 M.2 slots anyway, so why waste precious slot space on an SSD with tiny capacity?
Anonymous No.106469598
Two questions

>Coworker offered his 6950XT for 350, I currently own an 3060 Ti. Do I buy or wait for the 5070S?
>What's the best OLED gaming monitor at 1440p, 27" and doesn't cost an insanely jewish amount of money
Anonymous No.106469599 >>106469626 >>106469651
>>106469570
>>106469574
price

it's like $120 for 2tb vs $80 1+1tb
Anonymous No.106469626 >>106469649
>>106469599
so performance doesn't matter? then why are you buying anything at all?
Anonymous No.106469649 >>106469736
>>106469626
??

You have 1TB ssd for speedy stuff
Anonymous No.106469651
>>106469599
anon, I remember being really broke so I won't even clown on you. but the extra $40 for double the SSD space is absolutely worth it. current me would tell poor me to save up. I don't know where you live or what your income is like, but $40 is like 4 hours of minimum wage in the US. If you have the budget to be building a PC, can't you save up a little more?
Anonymous No.106469730 >>106470037
>>106468551
no otherwise they wouldn't be more efficient when GPU bound, AMDs architecture is just nigger slop
Anonymous No.106469734 >>106470050
Built a computer out of B760I Aorus Extreme (for three video output on just the motherboard), Ryzen 8700G, 64GB Corsair DDR5 4TB PCIE 4 SSD.
It just keeps randomly turning off. I don't get it. I got the RAM from someone who was actively using them until he upgraded, the board new off Amazon, and the CPU from a huge seller on eBay that I've bought stuff off of before and had it work with no problems. The PSU's not the problem since I've been using it for years with another MITX machine that had a 75W GPU.
What the hell is wrong with this thing? I'm at the point where I want to send the parts back, but I don't have a second AM5 board or CPU to test to see if either of the ones I have are the problem.
Anonymous No.106469736
>>106469649
just save anon
trust me, you think a hard drive is good for general use but it isnt
theres a reason why hdds are only used like a storage room nowadays, you only put shit there for safe keeping not for constant use
Anonymous No.106469760
>>106468908
amd redstone finally ready in october? that took a while
Anonymous No.106469766 >>106470037
>>106468551
>>106468685
Retarded take, even HWUB Steve's cherry-picked benchmarks don't support this bullshit.
NVIDIA GPUs are more power-efficient because they generally have more shading units that run at lower boost clocks.
GeForce GPUs also have larger on-die low-level cache, which means the GPU has a lot more cache hits compared to Radeon cards that need to make more trips to the VRAM or storage.
The smaller on-die cache is why Radeon cards scale better with SAM/ReBar.

>But Radeon GPUs have L3 infinity cache
That's used to make up for the raw memory bandwidth disadvantage of being stuck with regular GDDR6 chips.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5070-ti.c4243
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-9070-xt.c4229

These are the kind of retards who fall for techtuber's Radeon shilling.
Anonymous No.106469772
the 5600 is 95 euros right now but looking at price history it was 75 euros in december. do you guys think it will fall again or was it a one time thing?
Anonymous No.106469803 >>106470037
>>106468551
nah its because amd niggaclocked their 9070xt to use 1.2v while nvidia's chips are all operating at 1.1v or lower
Anonymous No.106469817 >>106470055
Need small form factor and decent performance combo for my wife. We are in a city now and can't have two towers so I want to I move her to an iMac or the little Mac boxes and the external monitor. She works part time graphic design. What will perform well?
Anonymous No.106469825
>>106464939
I have that same panel, it looks like shit
Anonymous No.106469834
>>106468551
Nah, my 7950X3D uses like 80W tops in games with a 4090.
Anonymous No.106469837
>>106467943
sorry anon all Nvidia cards melt
Anonymous No.106469841
>>106468146
I can't hear a thing either and I can cool more than 5000 watts. Your CPU melts at 100 watts
Anonymous No.106469929
>>106468908
Pretty sure Microsoft is supposed to drop a huge update for windows 11 on october as well that is a massive bug fix and all those cumulative updates that people have been downloading through out the year that are dormant currently will become active so make of that what you will
Anonymous No.106470037 >>106471308
>>106469730
>>106469766
>>106469803
none of this addresses system power draw, you're just talking about gpu power draw.
Anonymous No.106470050 >>106470203
>>106469734
did you try running the RAM with XMP turned off?
Anonymous No.106470055
>>106469817
minisforum mini-PC.
Anonymous No.106470074 >>106470080 >>106470159
Should I still get the 5070 over 5060 ti 16gb for longlivety? I'm on 1080p and will stay there. Do some lighter blender things, videoediting, photoshop.
Anonymous No.106470080 >>106470179
>>106470074
yes
Anonymous No.106470091 >>106470101
Is frozr ssd radiator on msi tomahawk 850 max good or i need a buy one?
Anonymous No.106470101
>>106470091
It works fine.
Anonymous No.106470159
>>106470074
>blender things, videoediting, photoshop.
If you care about those then get the 5060 ti 16gb or wait for the 5070 super
Anonymous No.106470179 >>106470387
>>106470080
Any speed increase the 5070 provides will be a meme when the card run out of vram while videoediting or rendering.
Anonymous No.106470203
>>106470050
I never touched the XMP, then I went in and I thought I turned RAM overclocking completely off - it was set on auto before. It still randomly shut down and at that point I gave up on using it, took it out, and breadboarded it.
What's driving me nuts is that it's completely unpredictable when it just shuts down with no warning. Right now I put my old system back where it was and it's been running for a couple hours with no problems. I'll keep testing it with other stuff. The only thing I've found so far is that the the Thermaltake SF750 just might not work right with some motherboards and it may have something to do with antisurge. I was running the problem system outside of the case for a few hours the other day with a different PSU (and only one monitor attached) when I was getting it loaded up to take the old system's place.
Anonymous No.106470301 >>106470361 >>106470366
If i only have ryzen 7600 with 4060, will 850w be ok?
It won't fry anything, right?

Someone wrote here that 1000w has intermittent spikes, this isn't the case with 850w?
Anonymous No.106470361 >>106470373 >>106470398 >>106470427
>>106470301
Anon, Ryzen 7600 draws 65 watts. RTX 4060 draws 115. Add in the rest of the PC, that's at most 400 watts you'll be using. 850W is hundreds of watts more than you'll ever need.
Anonymous No.106470366 >>106470398
>>106470301
>If i only have ryzen 7600 with 4060, will 850w be ok?
A 500W supply would be more than adequate for that build. Of course there's not many high-quality units under 750W these days so you'll probably have to get one in that region.

>Someone wrote here that 1000w has intermittent spikes, this isn't the case with 850w?
You've got the causality backwards.Transient loads come from the components (usually the graphics card); higher wattage units, with their bigger capacitors, are more capable of handling transients.
Anonymous No.106470373
>>106470361
TDP is not equal to max power consumption, 65W rated CPUs can eat 88W though.
Anonymous No.106470387 >>106470823
>>106470179
12gb will be enough for 4 years
Anonymous No.106470398 >>106470418
>>106470361
>>106470366
It's a core reactor ii, i thought 750w would be not enough if i'd want to upgrade in the future.

So, again, it won't fry anything, right?
Or should i return it for 750w one?
Anonymous No.106470417
>>106468908
Anything better than a 9070XT coming up anytime soon or neh?
Anonymous No.106470418 >>106470495
>>106470398
With that CPU, 750W would be enough for anything up to a 5080. Assuming a good quality unit like you have.
Anonymous No.106470427 >>106470504
>>106470361
Most PSUs achieve their best efficiency at around 50% load. Also protects from power spikes.
Anonymous No.106470482 >>106470501
>AMD marketing department thinking about how to name the new GPU series
Anonymous No.106470494 >>106470506 >>106470859 >>106470922
I managed to find a MSI 5060 ti 16gb for 357 Euro. Is upgrading from a 750 ti worth it?
Anonymous No.106470495 >>106470527
>>106470418
But i already got 850w, should i return it?
Anonymous No.106470501
>>106470482
I suggest naming the rtx6090 competitor the AMD Radeon ai1190xtx+
Anonymous No.106470504 >>106470527
>>106470427
Modern LLC resonant units have little variation from ~10% to 100% load (note the Y-axis). Plus, his typical (gaming) draw will be ~200W on the 12V rail.
Anonymous No.106470506
>>106470494
>128bit
Anonymous No.106470527
>>106470495
Nah not worth the hassle. I imagine you'd only claw back $20 at most which really isn't worth the 1-2h of work it'd take to execute the RMA. You don't really lose anything by having too much wattage on modern high-end units (see >>106470504). If nothing else it'll make for a quieter system.
Anonymous No.106470540 >>106470591
What is a good hardware monitor panel? My budget for it is 80 bucks and might run Aida64 on it unless there are better alternatives.
Anonymous No.106470567 >>106470582 >>106470594 >>106470811
whats with cases not coming with removable mesh filters anymore? Im in the market for one and it seems ever more common
Anonymous No.106470568
>could get a 9070xt for like 830 bucks from a big local amazon equivalent
>or could get it from a mildly shady small shop with good reviews and tax evasion tactics, for like 800 bucks
>and the price was 100-200 bucks higher a month ago, is liable to rise again if anything happens
>and the amazon equivalent even has a no-charge buy now pay later plan so i could just get the GPU at a low price, and pay it at my convenience over 2 months
Agony. Torment. Greed. Indecision.
Anonymous No.106470582
>>106470567
My North doesn't have this problem doe!
Anonymous No.106470591
>>106470540
use your old unused phone/tablet
Anonymous No.106470594
>>106470567
It reduces airflow which lowers their ranking on benchmark graphs. Doesn't matter that the dust will raise temps in a few months; the average consumer sees a chart and picks the top one.
Anonymous No.106470631
Last year in a rush I bought a cheapo case with a solid panel. Bad move in hindsight but it's a PC that at most consumes like 300-400w so it worked. By December I got a good deal on a Corsair sold to third world countries only so I'm using that. I wonder though, would the other one still be usable with something like a 240 liquid cooler? It would be pretty much exhausting air out the top and back, full negative pressure
Anonymous No.106470640 >>106470665 >>106470825
I wish I could look in the future which oled model would last the longest.
Anonymous No.106470665
>>106470640
I'd just check the lottery numbers, win it and buy the most expensive OLED and swap them monthly.
Anonymous No.106470703 >>106470727
Is Montech Century II 850 80+ Gold the new budget king? 100 eurinos. 130 for the 1050 W version.
Anonymous No.106470727
>>106470703
€100 is about average for a good 850W unit in Western Europe. A good price but not exceptional. To be expected since PSUs are low-margin commodity hardware.
Anonymous No.106470811
>>106470567
To have better thermals at the cost of more maintenance. I won't buy a case that doesn't have filters for every intake.
Anonymous No.106470823 >>106470946
>>106470387
NTA but I hope you're right, because I want to keep playing vijda goymes on my fresh RTX 5070 for at least 3-5 years, ideally at 1440p60 (144 if the game runs at 70+ FPS natively and I can framegen it) with DLSS Quality/Balanced. Actual in-game settings don't matter much as long as I don't heavily sacrifice visual clarity by dropping down shit like distant objects/render distance detail or model quality. The thing I hate the most is pop-in.
Anonymous No.106470825
>>106470640
All the models that last "the longest" are actually your regular ass OLEDs that burn out the pixels which are too bright automatically.

Apple has been doing this since the start.
Anonymous No.106470859
>>106470494
integrated GPUs in processors nowadays are an upgrade from 750 Ti.
Anonymous No.106470911 >>106470919
I didn't know how miserable PC building becomes when you try to fit a 420mm into your case. I got this lian li o11 d evo rgb, and it needs some extra bracket shenanigans, which ultimately makes it a pain to pull the CPU power cables through the top hole. Also the top side fan is half-blocked, and you can't place the mobo in the upper position, only the default lower, which means you can't install a full-atx mobo AND 140mm fans on the bottom, you gotta settle with the 120mm ones to have at least some room for bottomside board connections.
Oh, and the rear fan has to be 15mm thick if you want to install it at all.
Anonymous No.106470919 >>106471000
>>106470911
I have that case and originally intended to use 140mms on the side panel
It was too tight a fit and I relocated those 140mms to bottom intake and shifted the mobo up. Thankfully the rest of my fans are 120mm and fit in this configuration.
If you want to use 140mm fans throughout the pc, you'll have to go for the o11d evo XL
Anonymous No.106470922
>>106470494
yes
Anonymous No.106470946 >>106470986
>>106470823
You will have to turn down a fair bit. There are a select few games where butting up against the 16 GB limit is possible with settings maxed, and going over 12 is far easier. Primarily your decision is going to be a time value question, do you really need it now or can you wait for the 5070 Super which is going to be the ultimate mid-high range card for the actual-for-real next 5 years without compromise?
Anonymous No.106470986
>>106470946
I already bought.
Anonymous No.106471000 >>106471185
>>106470919
It almost feels like upshifted was the intended mobo position, seeing how the cable holes are positioned. If you don't use a 420mm AIO on top, it would even all fit nicely in, but it's too late to change the case now, and I still wanna go with the 420mm.
Ultimately though, I guess a 360mm would give better thermals when positioned on the side as the intake, and considering I can use the 140mm elsewhere. But with a 420mm on top I don't even need the side fans that much. Damn, I can't decide anymore, and the worst case scenario is I'll just return the 420 and get the same arctic 360mm.
Anonymous No.106471151 >>106471193
Minileds are the only good monitor type.
Anonymous No.106471163 >>106472239
>ASRock Phantom Gaming PGO32UFS
>cheapest 4k240hz oled
Should I?
Anonymous No.106471185 >>106471342
>>106471000
>upshifted was the intended mobo position
i'm not sure if they fixed it on newer batches, but on my unit (and several others i've read online), the metal tab on the exterior rear side blocks off one displayport connector on the dgpu when in the upshifted position.
Anonymous No.106471193
>>106471151
They'll hate you for telling the truth.
Anonymous No.106471210
>>106464240 (OP)
>>106468025
>>106468076
man OG guts looks so fucking sick
a used fractal R5 XL is the best I could come up with
pic rel aint mine
Anonymous No.106471223
>>106465491
up my ass nigger haha
Anonymous No.106471236
>>106465491
thepiratebay.org
Anonymous No.106471274 >>106471287
>>106465942
Why?
Anonymous No.106471287 >>106471374
>>106471274
Because the price difference is 10%
Anonymous No.106471308
>>106470037
Compare the CPU power draw in that benchmark image.
No wonder I have spell things out to dumb asses lime you.
Anonymous No.106471342 >>106471362 >>106471411
>>106471185
There's one thing I hated about the case: one of the mobo stands wasn't cut properly and as a result was slightly taller than the others. I wish I'd see it before attempting installation, but I don't think it damaged the board. Did you have any similar issue?
My hands itch to get it all built already, but I'll have to wait for the 1) 120mm bottom fans 2) 140mm grill for that one AIO's fan that may touch the CPU cables.
Anonymous No.106471362 >>106471411
>>106471342
Forgot the pic.
Anonymous No.106471374
>>106471287
I mean yeah but they're basically the same cpu.
No difference except "i bought newer cpu".
Anonymous No.106471389 >>106471421
Any thermal paste recs?
Anonymous No.106471411
>>106471342
>>106471362
Mine's okay on that front. It looks like a one-off defect
Anonymous No.106471421 >>106471451
>>106471389
GD2 and GD900 from AliExpress
They're really cheap and have very good performance and longevity
Anonymous No.106471451 >>106471463 >>106471571
>>106471421
GD-2-BA7 ?
GD900_30 or GD900_15?
Anonymous No.106471463 >>106471571
>>106471451
nvm it's volume
Anonymous No.106471536 >>106471568
Should I just go for a foam filter? This is after two weeks of use.
Anonymous No.106471568 >>106471645
>>106471536
it's working? just wash it regularly or something
Anonymous No.106471571 >>106471626
>>106471451
>>106471463
That's the volume, yes. GD2 is slightly better and pricier than GD900 so i recommend getting a 15g or 30g tube of that which will last for more than 5 years if you only have a single pc
Anonymous No.106471589 >>106471608 >>106471634 >>106471716
Headset question good here?
I have to decrease volume in w10 to 2 or else the volume deafening, i guess it's because they're cheap and have low resistance?
What should i look for if i want to middle tier headset just for gaming and listening music.
Anonymous No.106471608 >>106471786
>>106471589
Check within the audio driver options if you can toggle the gain settings to something less? Some audio cards have such settings hidden in their specific drivers that needs to be installed separately
Anonymous No.106471626 >>106471684
>>106471571
What about acrtic mx-4?
Anonymous No.106471634
>>106471589
more of a /hpg/ question but just get something comfortable and a separate antlion modmic or vmoda boom mic or similar knockoffs
Anonymous No.106471645
>>106471568
Oh jeez yeah. I fell for the airplane red dot come back war survive thing.
Anonymous No.106471684
>>106471626
Anonymous No.106471716
>>106471589
It's a driver thing. I had a headset that had multiple modes with each mode being detected as its own device and one mode turned the headset into speakers with volume at around 10. I never managed to fix this
Anonymous No.106471786 >>106471859
>>106471608
In device manager? I don't have external audio, only motherboard.
Anonymous No.106471859 >>106471991
>>106471786
Yeah you should probably invest in an audio interface. Otherwise people might think things like "Dude, did you see back at Anons place, he didn't have an audio interface. That means he doesn't have a podcast about IPAs and the hustling and bustling in the city."
Anonymous No.106471991 >>106472003 >>106472072
>>106471859
My friend got me one for my birthday and I don’t notice any difference except that I can make the sound louder now.
Anonymous No.106472003 >>106472032
>>106471991
back when i had a problematic system with audio dropouts, an external dac/amp fixed the problem entirely
Anonymous No.106472032 >>106472233
>>106472003
You probably just had a failing audio chipset on the motherboard. Kind of like how the USB ports on my board are slowly dying right now.
Anonymous No.106472072 >>106472095
>>106471991
It's not that useful if you don't have studio monitors, mics and guitar/synth.
Anonymous No.106472095
>>106472072
One plus is two different volume knobs for speakers and head phones, it also completes the look of the battle station, especially combined with a stream deck.
Anonymous No.106472106 >>106472173 >>106472213 >>106472241
what a fucking clown
Anonymous No.106472155
Are intel linux drivers fine? Can a nigga buy a b580 for a linux system?
Anonymous No.106472173
>>106472106
Hell yeah let me buy AyyMD and gain...
>checks notes
FOUR gigabytes of extra VRAM and similar performance to the 5070 for... 200 euro extra? Almost the price of the 5070 Ti?
And miss out on DLSS Transformer Model (great at 1440p+), DLSS 4 Framegen, native Stable Diffusion (Pytorch in general) compatibility with CUDA, better OpenGL support on Windows, etc.?
AMD shills are such fucking retards, man.
Anonymous No.106472213
>>106472106
>*at msrp vs higher than current 5070 prices

theres nothing special about making reviews that evaluate pricing info
Anonymous No.106472233
>>106472032
It was bad drivers or something iirc
The integrated audio chipset was the cheapest chinkshit realtek at that time
It would go away with a new OS install but start happening after some time
Anonymous No.106472239
>>106467646
>oh well its probably not a big issue on 4k 32" ppi and newest gen panels
it is

>>106467943
fear mongering for poorfags since people use it without issue
but also it has burnt up for people
if you took the vaxx, you should not buy a 5090
if you are unvaxxed, you are safe to buy a 5090

>>106471163
does it have a 16 hour good boy forced refresh if pixel refresh has not been triggered? don't buy
does it have reported problems with blackscreening? don't buy
Anonymous No.106472241 >>106472256
>>106472106
>Nonchalantly upgrades his daughter to an rtx5080
Based
Anonymous No.106472256
>>106472241
>Gets all free pc parts from MSI including two 32" 4k240hz qdoleds
>nothin personell
Shilling won
Anonymous No.106472352 >>106472431
>>106469048
>not my department
Fuck if I care you lying dork.
Anonymous No.106472431 >>106472531 >>106472708
>>106472352
I'm not lying though. I just arrived at work btw.
Anonymous No.106472531
>>106472431
I should download that software right click it and show the properties to you so I can claim I'm "at work at AMD" too lmao
Anonymous No.106472574
>>106472558
>>106472558
>>106472558
Anonymous No.106472708
>>106472431
Anybody can edit a file name you fucking retard how dumb do you think people are