Thread 106472558

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB, 5060 TI 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Workstation: 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P, ASUS XG259CS
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), XG32UCWMG (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106464240

>News & Rumors
Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 update may cause SSD failures; DRAMless SSDs are more vulnerable.
If you have a potentially vulnerable SSD, revert Windows update, disable automatic Windows update, & use Registry Editor to set 64 MB HMB allocation policy (or disable HMB).
https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

AMD Radeon 555 Pro

>>106472558 (OP)
that 'naner is no good, too ripe already, too much sugar and not enough fiber

Day 8 of FAFO'ing with G80SD - Demoralized and Defeated/Close to the End/Tried Edition

Idk what more there is to say at this point

bonus memes
>Never listen to Totally*ubbed as a reviewer he goes into the slopper pile of reviewers that can only regurgitate numbers
>Makes false claims that don't exist in product
>Fail to mention negatives

>>106472767
To be fair as a reviewer you have to follow a strict steps that allow for the numbers to come about, they dont have the time to use every monitor for 50h a week for their anime and weg sessions

you need to read reddit user reviews for pros and cons of actually using the monitor as the daily driver

>>106472783
Well considering a reivew is code word for Paid AD/Infomercial these days, it is what it is
does not make me wish death upon them all any less
>you need to read reddit user reviews for pros and cons of actually using the monitor as the daily driver
the ironic part here is that is actually the place where everyone is sperging out the most about pixel refreshes and fringing
ledditors won... it's over

>>106472767
you can never trust youtubers
they lie and even if they have issues with it they will replace it in 6 months with a new version anyway
the only time they tell the truth is if the shit is so garbage and they seethe so hard they make a video just trashing the product so it's still not a review but a rage filmed rant at how it's made their life hell

what is this

FormD T1 my beloved

>>106472832
>the only time they tell the truth is if the shit is so garbage and they seethe so hard they make a video just trashing the product so it's still not a review but a rage filmed rant at how it's made their life hell
most of them don't even do that. der8auer is about the only exception but he only does it for top range rog stuff

Help needed.
I just bought a 2x8gb 3200mhz ram, after installing new ram, pc doesn't boot, debug led stuck at ram.

Tried single stick every slot, 4 stick work fine. Reset cmos but still doesn't work.

Here's the weird thing happened, before installing mew ram, my rig was running at 2666mhz but when I installed new one, it's always 3200mhz without xmp enable.

>>106473271
if it doesn't post without xmp then you got a doa stick.

>>106473298
This is the first time I experience this, new stick just stuck @3200mhz without xmp enable. I tried to set it @2666mhz and it boot just fine but if I install 2 old one it doesn't work again.

Idk how but I managed to get 4 stick worked with cmos reset but when I lift the pc case up it shoot itself again.

Trying reset cmos rn.

Another note 3 stick installed just fine but 4 is a no go.

>>106473356
did the sticks all come in the same kit from the same day you bought them? or you bought them at different times? either case, the die types may vary between the ram and they could not be compatible with each other. for example samsung memory can't run same timings as hynix.

>>106472849
can this run Stable Diffusion XL?

The jews are trying to tempt me by discounting the 5070 TIs right now but I'll wait until the super cards are out

>>106472849
like amds radeon pro lineup. basically same gpu as consumer but with "ihv pro driver" support instead of using the gaymer driver.

>>106473414
2 different kits

>for example samsung memory can't run same timings as hynix.
This come to my thought too but I don't know how to get it work.

>>106472849
an israel support package with a free gpu included

>>106473458
the ram training at startup is basically testing the kits and if it fails that then sticks are incompatible since it 100% wont pass gaming/windows tests which are more stressful. so you need new ram / rma.

>>106473458
put kit 1 in A1/A2 and kit 2 in B1/B2

oh man... modern games are so demanding

>>106473458
The serial number sticker will help you distinguish the different sets.
Follow what >>106473648 said afterwards.

>>106473709
what do you get out of spamming this image?

>>106473709
>1660 Ti/Super / 2060 can probably do 1080p60 low with FSR/DLSS
your ass is demanding

>>106472859
Love the black and copper. Good job bro.

>>106473734
>>106473648
UPDAAAATE
ISSSS OOOON

Here's the process, cmos reset, 1 stick in -> boot okay, then another stick from same kit in different slot -> boot okay, 2 stick same kit, slot next together -> boot nicely, throw in remaining sticks annnnd boom it's on. Rn is A1,A2 and B1,B2

Tbh idc about the speed I just need the capacity.

Don't consoom, DV2 has been announced
all your hardware is obsolete

>>106474076
it will never be licensed on samsung displays so DOA

>>106474076
im gonna run this ancient aw3423dw until its dead

>QDOLED fucked my eyes up with fringing
>Can't buy S95F as endgame "Monitor" anymore
>LG running sales
>LG G5 literally as cheap as it will be during black friday/new years right NOW at 1683€ w stacked discounts and codes for the 55"
>I can literally buy endgame "monitor" right now
>Not sure if WOLED will fuck my eyes with the RGBW structure
it's all so tiring

>>106473459
I'll take two, thanks.
Captcha is 4JVNK, fucking TRVE.

more and more people are taking the tv pill day by day
qdoled made me give up the idea of a smaller desktop sized tv, the fringing will be even worse
the thing about the g5 is that they fucked all the modes in hdr though except now they patched the filmmaker mode, kinda gay how you have to run in filmmaker mode with game mode on to fix it some how, so you can't just run game mode? seems kinda gay, might not mean anything but seems kinda jank

>>106474284
actually, nvm.
god damn look at this you can see the diagonal dithering just from a yt video, not even looking for it just saw the whole mess
it's over, every display tech is shit
I accept defeat

/mbg/ monitor buying general

>>106474157
>>106474284
>>106474346
I'll never use 55" TVs as a monitor, I will stop @ 37".
https://news.samsung.com/global/the-worlds-first-37-inch-monitor-shows-how-5-inches-can-change-everyday-life

I used to have an r5 5600 and rtx 3070 and it was just "enough" and I used to enjoy gaming. Now I have a 7800x3d and a rtx 5070 and I obsess over 1 and 0.1 percent lows and don't enjoy gaming anymore

>>106474395
>how-5-inches-can-change-everyday-life
that's what your mom said anyways
>I will stop @ 37".
this already exists in the form of the 45" LG UW 5k2k
quite essentially just that

Things aren't looking good radeon bros...
Do you think amd can even afford to make another gen???

https://www.jonpeddie.com/news/q225-pc-graphics-add-in-board-shipments-increased-27-0-from-last-quarter/

https://videocardz.com/newz/jpr-nvidia-discrete-gpu-market-share-reaches-94

AMD on track to have less than 1% of the GPU market, might as well give up at this point.

>>106474451
Don't want UW.

>>106474474
>>106474476
Uh oh, these posts coming up at basically the exact same time isn't going to be good for the resident radeon schizos paranoia and general delusions.

>>106474486
140ppi is quite usable unscaled, a little less than that and 120 should be even more easily
the lg might be kinda good currently ngl

anyone know if LG oled monitors have dithering? I really don't think so no? Never remember hearing about it or anything
just the tvs

Anyone know how to turn off GPU RGB on Linux? I tried OpenRGB but it did not recognize the GPU, I tried running Gigabytes software with wine but it was a buggy mess that led nowhere

>>106474494
Thats expected, the basic state of anyone who willingly buys a radeon is mental illness.

>>106474474
fake news

>>106474507
>anyone know if LG oled monitors have dithering? I really don't think so no? Never remember hearing about it or anything
>just the tvs
actually yeah it's on all woleds I think after all
all woleds have chrominance overshoot, but do monitors do dithering to solve it? I don't think they do?

Torn slightly between PG32UCDMR and XG32UCWMG monitors (4K QD-OLED and WOLED respectively). My room is usually dark, so is the former probably the way to go? Especially since I absolutely can make use of DP 2.1 and would rather not deal with DSC (which means the cheaper DP 2.1 Gigabyte alternative with the same QD-OLED panel is probably out as people say it still forces DSC).
Or would it be wiser to wait until the 4K 32" Tandem WOLED things come out next year? I'm not in a big hurry to buy but a year or two is a long time. And Tandem QD-OLED seems to be no different from normal QD-OLED...

>>106474522
Prebuilt mogs the self build market, I've not seen a single radeon in a prebuilt for years except for integrated graphics.
Nvidia easily sells 10 or 20 to SI for every self built PC Card.

>AMD RDNA5 is reportedly codenamed after Transformers
RDNA5 won

>>106474476
it always funny reading the comments when these kinds of articles come out
it's like people get pissed that everyone isn't just buying amd gpus

>>106474621
If you have not been following along these past days I will tell you now with absolute certainty that qdoled has a type of pixel fringing due to the subpixel layout that can give people eyestrain/headaches, it's just not good, and the glossy ones are very extreme at it, matte less so
allegedly the 27" 4k reduces it even more, but people report it still has fringing depending on how sensitive you are

all reviewers who mained 32" qd have gone over to the true black woled, shills or not, food for thought

can not say if pc woled is better or also shit, never tested it, lcd ips is still more clear

dsc or not is like not even the top 10 "issues" to begin with

>load old game with PhysX
>nowadays we can max out their settings
>play
>it's nice
I miss PhysX. It's really fun to finally see the particles maxed out.

>>106474651
Won't Hasbro sue them?

>>106474742
They're just internally used code names.

>>106474671
Individual buyers literally don't matter anyway, AI and prebuilt PCs make up most of Nvidia's sales.
Nvidia are also cheaper than AMD now for individual cards. Why would anyone buy AMD now?

Recent check at online stores shows the cheapest 9070 at 599 and a cheapest 5070 at 475 in my region.

any anons here got monitor recs for gaming and color sensitive work?
IPS only, no OLED since text fringing just kills it for me more than the burn in that will inevitably set in

>>106474360
Das right

>>106474699
Best grab an rtx30 or rtx40 card while you can
Those are the final GPUs to support physx in old games

>>106474754
>Alpha troon

>>106474811
I just read the news. I didn't know. I have a 2060. It seems like it works.

>>106474830
That's a good card for physx. Hold onto it and use it as a physx accelerator for whenever you want to revisit those old games

>>106474801
I'm consdering just buying the 160hz SS IPS 4k 27" slop and calling it a day

>>106474872
>IPS
You need the contrast of va, more and more programs are almost entirely black peoples.

mobo stuck on dram and cpu lights on
9700x
msi pro b650m-a wifi
kingston fury 2x32 gb 6000mhz cl30

I already updated bios to latest (at least I suppose i did)

and yes I waited a really long time for memory training (it has been 30 mins so far)

I tried clearing cmos once but I am not actually sure if I shorted the jumpers long enough so I will try that again

cpu pins r not bent and I tried both ram sticks in all slots

cables are seated

wtf is the problem???

>>106474641
The Radeon marketing and features team was trying to attract more OEMs, but they probably can't match GeForce GPUs in volume discounts.
Dell doesn't even offer the choice of selecting a Radeon video card; HP's most recent Radeon card option is an RX 7600.

Radeon also has a brand perception issue; it's seen as the less premium choice over GeForce.
Prebuilt 9070/XT PCs aren't cheap; normies may as well spend more for a GeForce prebuild at that point.
https://www.amd.com/en/gaming/advantage.html

>>106474897
Try booting with one memory module in A2, test both sticks. GL.
I'd return all three of those items if you can't get them to work. Not worth spending more time identifying the issue.

>>106474895
not buying miniled slop
not buying an old overpriced G7/G8
no such panels exist that are cheap
>"need"
don't need shit and it will be more smeary too

>>106474918
alr
i will show it to a pc tech just in case but he will prob just tell me its borked lol

AOC Q27G4ZR

yay or nay? looks decent and is on sale in the UK for £170, but i cannot for the life of me find any reviews of it

>>106474897
> 6000mhz
Boot with one of the DIMMs only, go into BIOS, select the EXPO for your DRAM, reboot into BIOS and check if EXPO active, power down, install the other DIMM, boot with both DIMMS. This helped in one case here.

If you can't boot with one DIMM, try the other. If both fail flash BIOS again after reading the fucking manual. Rinse and repeat above procedure.

>>106474872
> 4k 27"
Get 32" if 4k or 1440p with 27".

a while ago I did some black magic to rebind my side mouse buttons to be actual keys on linux (O and P respectively) and to my surprise it works like that on other PCs, what in the world did I do...

>>106475025
>Get 32" if 4k
I can get two 27" ones for the same price as one of them
bad value
>or 1440p with 27"
unless significantly good deal not even much cheaper than 4k 27" at this point
buying an ancient res in 2025 is kinda crazy I would prolly hate myself even more

>>106472859
I'm going form but I'm a fan cuck, dude that's shit temps and gross

>>106475010
i think i was just very retarded and didnt short jbat1 long enough the first time

it gets to vga with both sticks in now
time to stick in the gpu

i cannot stress enough that everyone needs to tune their ram. you will feel the latency difference.

this might be the poorest general on /g/ the /lmg/ guys all have rigs with multiple 3090s/4090s and hundreds of gigs of ram the battlestation people have full room setups the /hsg/ people have enterprise grade shit and this thread people complain about a $500 GPU

it's no wonder pc gamers are not the valued customers any more

>>106475341
Unneeded on x3d

>>106474522
my favorite cope is that the steam hardware is somehow wrong and these two entries are the 9000 series cards.

Imagine how clinically insane you have to be to look at these numbers which have either trending negatively or sideways across all the months post 9000 series launch and come to the conclusion that the 9000 series are them even though the numbers are similar to hardware survey from last year before the 9000 series was even launch.

>>106475467
you will even feel it on x3d. if your ram holds data charge longer your x3d can do more with with that data before it needs to do refresh cycle.

>>106475533
hardware survey's*

the GPU market will end up being you either buy a 5090 or you buy the XBOX PC with a AMD SoC, AMD dGPUs will die off

it's over

I love membrane keyboards.

>>106475589
probably beeps due to not even having nkey roll over due to being bottom of the barrel dog shit slop
depends though

>>106474522
this guy is mentally ill

>>106475567
We are already there, i fully expect AMD to focus on LPDDR5 and cloud gaming solutions because thats what microsoft wants. the discrete SKU will be probably the same chip the ps6 is getting

>>106475567
if nvidia wanted to they could release a SoC that ruins any chance for amd to succeed in console market
they merely avoid the market to enable competition to ward off monopoly claims and such

My gf is getting a hand me down build, minus a gpu. I can spend 300 bucks getting her a gpu suitable for her needs or I can spend 750 on a 4070 ti for myself and give her my 3060 ti. What do you guys think?

>>106476228
>750 on a 4070 ti
5070 ti super is the best choice in few months
a 300$ gpu isnt much better than 3060 ti so thats confusing
what are her needs?

I have a theory

The 12v2x6 melting is primarily caused by IDLE temperatures being too high. In 2024, I noticed that all of the AIBs rolled out a bios update around the same time that changed how fanstop worked in the 40 series, and that change has continued into the 50 series. Instead of fans turning on when 3D clocks are needed, they instead turn on under any of the following conditions:

GPU core is above 50c
GPU power draw is above 60w
GPU requires 3D clocks

I think Nvidia knows that this is the real reason but has remained silent.

Bit of a retard question, but is the 5800x supposed to idle at completely random temps? Sometimes it's 40c, sometimes it's 60, then it realizes it's at 60 and goes down to 40, and so on...

Also, I feel like the OEM Wraith cooler doesn't seem to be able to deal with it very well, any budget suggestions for a proper cooler?

>>106476286
The CPU is rarely fully idle, the temps might be suddenly spiking when the boost feature almost instantly kicks in to complete a background task asap.

ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE is the best value dual tower cooler.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MFvD4D/id-cooling-frozn-a620-pro-se-58-cfm-cpu-cooler-frozn-a620-pro-se
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/id-cooling-frozn-a620-pro-se-cpu-air-cooler/

Alternative
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vZfV3C/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-v3-7084-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120se-v3

>>106476265
I'm a fucking retard, I'm looking at a 5070 ti for 750 bucks. She wants to stream games with her friends, and her build is going to come with an old 8700k and 32gb ddr4. So I figure my 3060 ti would be great for her. On the other hand, I do vr maybe a week out of the year, and various autistic things that could take advantage of the vram and ai upgrades. Some 1440p gaming now and then. Just trying to decide if it's worth dropping 750 bucks and take care of us both, or if I should just get her one similar to mine.

>>106476286

The OEM wraith is dogshit, My 5800XT had one and I replaced it with a Thermalright Assassin 120 Refined SE and it kept the temperature and noise down.

>>106476286
it's not idle, it's sending telemetry to microsoft

>>106476332
She'll need a new CPU to make the most out of any relatively expensive video card.
Giving her your 3060 Ti is fine.

>>106476329
>>106476337
Thanks (for the recs) guys. I was just mentioning it because the 2700x that I had up to a week ago didn't pull funny shit like that

>>106476286
>>106476337
I can cool that

bloody hell lads, I watched the footy yesterday, but I can still see the scoreboard on my new OLED monitor

>>106472849

problems if 70W tdp and no extra power connector

>>106472849
>70W TBP
If the performance isn't pure ass and the TDP stays stable, that's a good alternative to, like, the 3050 or 6400 at this point.

>>106476286

it perhaps anticipates daily load and raises temps for optimum cache performance and eventually goes rest at 40 celcius

how do I delete phantom monitor? I keep deleting it from HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\GraphicsDrivers\Configuration but it keeps coming back after reboot. I don't want to fucking clean all cache and reinstall drivers because of one stuck ghost monitor.

>>106476649
Device manager? Hidden devices?

>>106476665
It's way beyond that. It cannot be removed from device manager. Well you can, but it doesn't actually get removed even for a second. If you delete its entry from Configuration registry above, the "Uninstall from system" for both Adapter & Monitor get grayed out, signifying that it is indeed now deleted. But after reboot this shit is back again in the same registry place. I don't know what is recreating it and clean driver reinstall doesn't fix it.
>>106476649
>reinstall drivers
Actually I used DDU to install NVIDIA 581.03 just a week ago, with Clean & Restart option. Yet there are 50 monitors in Configuration registry key they sure as shit couldn't have appeared over the course of this week. It has BENQ that I sold in 2018.

>>106476673
time to DDU then

>>106476684
I did clean & restart DDU install a week ago. It doesn't do anything to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\GraphicsDrivers\Configuration. There are still years old entries there.

>>106476694
revo uninstaller

>>106476694
SHIT BRO I DON'T KNOW THEN STOP SHOUTING AT ME

>>106474621
>Torn slightly between PG32UCDMR and XG32UCWMG monitors (4K QD-OLED and WOLED respectively). My room is usually dark, so is the former probably the way to go? Especially since I absolutely can make use of DP 2.1 and would rather not deal with DSC (which means the cheaper DP 2.1 Gigabyte alternative with the same QD-OLED panel is probably out as people say it still forces DSC).
I favor QD-OLED because you get purer brighter colors (particularly reds & yellows), a wider gamut, and better uniformity. See:
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/exploring-oled-brightness-improvements-woled-vs-qd-oled-and-the-need-for-new-metrics-and-specs
>Tandem QD-OLED seems to be no different from normal QD-OLED
That's not true. Tandem WOLED a huge step-up from regular WOLED but still behind QD-OLED in effective color volume (see picrel):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHkBKIFZa34&t=1020s

Regardless of WOLED vs. QD-OLED I would suggest going for the 27" 4K models instead of the 32" 4K models because the higher pixel density really helps mask away pixel fringing that is inherent with non-RGB subpixel layouts so text and fine details will look sharper without any noticeable chroma aberration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCLxxmULrdY&t=226s

My advice is the cheapest 27" 4K QD-OLED with full DP 2.1 support, then one without it if the DP 2.1 ones are too expensive, or the PG27AQWP-W if you wanted WOLED. The following 27" 4K QD-OLEDs panels have confirmed full DP 2.1 (80 Gbps):
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.php?subaction=showfull&id=1739173433
>MSI 272URX
>Asus PG27UCDM
>AOC AG276UZD
>ViewSonic XG273-4K-OLED

Also if you want to wait or can some months there will also be 5K 27" QD-OLEDs released in the spring that will finally match the sharpness of phones/tablets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqhtvBFWoxY&t=247s

Question: I already have a SSD m2 2TB for system and games that are fucking huge these days, but what about all the rest? Are HDDs still a good choice for storage? Also I don't think that I would need a big size - my current old PC has an HDD but barely 0.7 TBs are used for literally a life long worth of pictures, memes and videos.
Or should I go for the middle ground, 2.5 SSDs ?
Thanks.

>>106476843
What are you asking

>>106476843
SSDs are useful when you are writing data a lot as with the OS/apps/games, but for read-back data like movies/music/images/etc you won't see a benefit and putting them on cheaper HDD storage is fine.

Is buying an 8GB VRAM card these days a retarded choice?

>>106474157
wtf is fringing? Just turn off HDR so you stop blinding yourself retard.

>>106476903
of course it is. Why would you buy a card that will 100% cause you problems playing games in the future? why would anyone try to 'save money' on something they plan to use for 5+ years? thats stupid.

>>106476903
depends on your needs and your wallet

>>106476903
It would have to be EXTREMELY cheap (like $200 or less) to be worth considering and even then only if that was your max budget and you couldn't save an extra $100-200 over the next month or two.

What's the best way to store porn on pc?
Nvme 4tbs are pricey, the satas equal nvme price at 2tb
Is HDD the way?

>>106477021
Of course, grab a 20tb hard drive. We live in good times

>>106477037
Do I need to RAID them to failproof? I don't really know the failure rate of modern HDDs, but losing my entire porn collection would be extremely sad

>>106477047
buy two drives from separate companies so they aren't from the same batch

>>106476903
Kind of. 8gb is shit but the issue is exaggerated taking into account how the target audience will actually be using the gpu + historical performance of other low end/mid range cards. For a 5060 or 3070 or something there's not many examples (though there are still a few just to be clear) of games that would suddenly be way better if you had more memory.
If you know what you're getting yourself into and the price is right or you literally just have no more money, then yes you can make it work. What's preferable is maybe waiting another week and getting at least a 5070 or 5060ti 16gb
Note that what I've said only applies to Nvidia gpus, 8gb amd cards have been having serious issues in some games for years. There are examples of games (I think all of them unreal engine) where 6gb Nvidia cards are totally fine even with higher/max settings, but 8gb AMD cards are locked out unless you can put up with insane stutter or some 3rd world performance mod.

>>106472558 (OP)
Got a $2K budget. I need a PC for heavy data processing and scientific computing multi-threaded assembly and quality control. It'll be running for multiple days at a time, so solid cooling is a must. I need a good chunk of RAM and strong multi-core CPU performance. I don't care about the graphics card I'm using an old crappy one, so we can ignore that. Also, I hate RGB, just something to keep in mind. Any help from a kind anon?

>>106477119
Are you interested in a threadripper? If you are you'll have to double your budget

>>106476843

is that dacia lifestyle clothes you are wearing

hdd is mature technology study it to detail or visit car market to buy one you will not lose much

>>106477138
I am and I will get one eventually but I rather to wait until the DDR6 ram get released. I plan to have this PC for 3-4 years then upgrade into a thread ripper with DDR6

Can anyone tell me what the 5 volt boost button does on the AsRock 1600 W PSU? Is there any reason to ever use this or not use it?

>>106477119
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-performance-cpus,5683.html

>106476284
That theory makes no sense. The connector melts because of uneven current being drawn through the wires. And that happens after prolonged usage. It takes at least 5 minutes of full load with a really sloppy insertion for the plastic to get to its melting point.

>>106475710
Too bad Nvidia fucked up their relationship with both Microsoft and Sony. Also, they don't care about gaming. Datacenter was ~90% revenue in the last quarter

>>106477196
Interesting sounds dangerous

>>106477172
You may as well build around the 9950X (16 core 32 threads) then, the 285K (24 cores 24 Threads) could also be an option but that doesn't have hyperthreading and has e-cores which may or may not suit you. If you need a cooler just put a 420mm Liquid Freezer 3 on them. DDR5 is still a bitch on high ram/4 DIMMs, arrow lake has a better memory controller than Zen 5 but it's still lottery dependent.

>>106477119
cpumark + googling specific workload and whatever processor.
Your options probably comes down to 9950x vs 285k vs 14900k if you just want a regular desktop socket.

>>106477289
I cant imagine you want like am5 board + 16 core cpu to do cpu tasks that run multiple days

>>106477119
microatx. it should have always been microatx

I just installed a 7800x3d and I don't even feel like gaming anymore. Many such cases

>>106477305
Why I thought we all loved ryzen in 2025, what's wrong with am5 now?

>>106477362
more threads = less waiting for results
am5 is limited by its design to work as a consumer socket
other socket designs are more suitable for scientific workloads

>>106477233
Nvidia's gaming revenue is 8% and rising last I heard. They still regularly develop features and advertise their shit for gaming, so it's not like they don't care about it. Also, an Nvidia SoC is inside the Switch 1 (on track to be best-selling console of all time) and is also on the Switch 2. (selling even faster than Switch 1 did)

>>106472558 (OP)
i built R5 5600 with RTX 3060
and i have like 1000 usd rn
what part should i upgrade? or to AM5 ?
(from brasil)

>>106477432
the cpu is mostly fine, you could upgrade to am5 but that costs money
an upgrade to like 5070, 5070 super, 5070 ti is gonna be better for short term

>>106477432
GPU
5070/5070TI/9070XT/9060XT
You can upgrade to the 5700X3D but it probably won't be worth it unless you only play WoW

>>106477441
>>106477469
the ram is still 16gb

>>106477469
>You can upgrade to the 5700X3D
probably cant as the prices have doubled in chink stores

>>106477432
see >>106476345

>>106477500
im planing like buying am5 with 9600x with 32gb ram and keep rtx 3060?

thoughts

Is the ryzen 9700x worth 1/3rds price increase from 7700
>Everything usecase, AI, solidworks and games
Also is
>Thermaltake BX1 PS-SPD-0750NNSABE-T 750 W PSU
Worth 100$?

>>106477518
you wont find much gains in videogames
sure you can do it if you then upgrade gpu later

Why are PCIe 5.0 mobos double the price of normal mobos here?
>MSI B850m-P Mobo is Same price as a ryzen 7 7700
I just want more PCIe lanes than 2 on a future ready mobo

>>106477525
i cannot buy 5070 ti
that means i need to buy new psu
is 5070 good enough?

>>106477548
sure, 5070 is prob the best value gpu now.
or wait for super since it'll have more vram for futureproofing

>>106477518
For gayming that's a terrible idea.
>>106477548
If you have a 500/550w psu you can make a 5070 work even with moderately power hungry cpus.. With undervolting you're looking at 150ish - 200ish watts depending on how aggressive you are (the 150w option would only be like a 5ish% regression from stock btw)
70ti isn't even worth buying for 99.9% of people regardless of locale for 1080p or 1440p

Is a silent assasin 120 enough for a Ryzen 7 7700?
>Water cooler
Heard they leak

>>106477657
any cooler is enough as its a 65 watt cpu

>>106477657
>silent assasin 120
the peerless assassin?
Yeah it will work, it's overkill for it. The 7700 draws only about 130 watts at max load

>>106477673
>>106477683
>Peerless assassin*, sorry
I can also get a deal on a big atore prebuilt with a 7800X3D
I got recommended to get a water cooler by the clerk from said store for both CPUs

>>106477712
why are you talking to clerks who tell you to watercool a 65w cpu

>>106474284
Only retarded faggots still buy Tv's

>>106477712
You can air cool pretty much any CPU without problems

>>106472558 (OP)
why is 64gb of ram budget for workstations?
I cant understand the real difference between 64gb vs 96gb, let alone 128gb
is it always better to just have more?

>>106477845
it depends on the application
3d modeling, local llms can eat up a lot of ram
most things can do with less

>>106477520
>Is the ryzen 9700x worth 1/3rds price increase from 7700
Not for me.
Ryzen 9000 CPUs perform significantly better when running AVX-512 workloads, but not a meaningful improvement for everything else.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9700x/
https://aecmag.com/workstations/amd-ryzen-9000-vs-intel-core-ultra-200s-for-cad-bim-rendering-simulation-and-reality-modelling/

>>Thermaltake BX1 PS-SPD-0750NNSABE-T 750 W PSU
Seems pretty bang average/unimpressive, I'd only buy it if Thermaltake offers good RMA/customer service in your region.

If I am just gaming at most, would I notice any difference between a 990 Pro and an SN8100?

>>106477931
no

>>106477858
so only ai sloppers and unreal engine 5 devs need more than 64gb?
I was planning on going 96gb but now im constantly going back and forth on would I ever use all that or am I wasting money for no real reason

>>106477937
google around your specific workstation apps recommended hardware and ram usage

>>106477931
Nope

>>106477896
I see, it seems the 7700 is more prudent
>PSU
My budget is like 50-75$
650-750w range, afromentioned CPU and rx 9060 16GB with a fuckton of drives

Of the cases in the op, am I correct in saying that the only case that doesn't have a big glass side is the Meshify 3?
I guess that's the case I have to buy then. The only thing i want is good airflow and completely black.

>>106478020
but then you cant see all the cool lights inside your pc

Whats the logic behind 2x24Gb for ram?
For GPus, why 9070xt and not the 7900xtx?

>>106478055
I dont understand the ram question
9070 xt has better features

>>106478055
24gb sticks could be Hynix m-die. They oc less than a-die but they come with greater capacity.

9070xt has better RT, FSR4, less power draw, and other goodies. 7900xtx has more vram and faster raster. 7900xtx is pretty much discontinued unless you find old stock.

>>106478059
>>106478120
I'm out of date with the graphics world. Are GPU features more viable compared to raw performance these days? I don't exactly push for 4k, I'm on 1080p and slowly debating on moving to 1440p.

>>106478145
theres physical hardware in the 9070 xt that enables better ray tracing and upscaling for fsr4 using machine learning which looks better than fsr3

so the idea is you dont buy last gen amd
nvidia has better features than 9070 xt but costs more

>>106478145
if you're playing modern games then you're 100% going to use those new features. if all you're playing is old games then the features matter less or not at all. its best to do your research to find out what do you actually need. i bet most people here dont need more than a 6800xt/3080ti.

>>106472558 (OP)
How retarded would it be to trade my rtx 3060 to a 3080 and pay 130$ extra? Seems like a decent little upgrade of not for the fact I'm losing 2GB VRAM

>>106477996
There are no good PSU deals at that price range; these are the two I'd consider.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x96p99/corsair-cx650m-2021-650-w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020221-na
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zfGhP6/adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-corereactorii750g-bkcus
The Adata XPG unit has a longer warranty (10 years).

4080 or 5070 ti? Price is irrelevant since I already have both cards, well the 5070ti is on its way. One is for me and the other for someone else. Which one should I keep?

>>106478198
do you like frame gen

>>106478020
Yes, Meshify 3 has a solid side panel option.
It's an expensive case, but they bundle very good 3x 140mm fans, almost as good as Noctua's new G2 fans.

>>106478198
they're pretty much the exact same gpu except one is one bleeding edge arch

>>106478198
5070ti will probably age better
If you don't care flip a coin.

>>106478198
what >>106478207 said.
5070ti can do framegen without fps penalty because the display engine does it rather than the shader engine.

>>106478033
I want no lights at all. Hopefully I can remove the power light with ease.
>>106478208
Well that sounds good then.

>>106478186
Don't think it's stupid, but you might have to repaste & repad the TIMs.
3080 was a very popular card, so there are plenty of online resources sharing accurate thermal pad measurements.
Use soft pads if you decide to replace them.

You'll also have to lower some texture settings on some titles, but I don't think this will be a deal breaker, considering the raw performance gain.
The 9060 XT & 5060 Ti have weaker GPUs than the 3080.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb.c3682

>>106478198
4080 is only better if you play a lot of old games with PhysX.

>>106478186
3080 10gb? hell no

>>106478235
4080 anecdotally works better on linux than 5070ti so that's also something to consider too

>>106478120
>24gb sticks could be Hynix m-die. They oc less than a-die but they come with greater capacity
24gbit M-die clocks higher but does worse timings
good on platforms like core ultra where the main goal is to push the IMC clock as high as possible
on ryzen 16gbit A-die is preferable but it doesn't really matter, just get as much capacity as you need

>>106478186
You're at 1080p right? If so that 2gb means dick
3080 still a good card today.
Either way I would probably do it, as long as there's no issues with the 3080

Is it worth upgrading to a 9700x from a 12700k? I am mostly using my PC for gaming and some video and photo editing workloads in general, and I would like to move a platform that could support a future upgrade path to an X3D CPU if I can get it for cheap. O should I just look for a 7700x instead since apparently there isn't much of a performance uplift between the two?

>>106478374
>9700x from a 12700k
thats's basically a sidegrade

>>106478374
I'd wait for 10800x3d and upgrade to that

oh nonononono oh god no oh god oh fuck please help me radeon sisters what do i do oh god no please make it stop

>>106478405
Every prebuilt ships with Nvidia
Every console ships with AMD
Two sides of the same monopoly coin

>>106478374
maybe try to get a 7800x3d straight up so you get the ram upgrade and the cpu at least performs somewhat better in games

>>106478374
Wait until Zen 6 CPUs are out.

any opinions on frame 5000d?
im thinking on getting it since it seems the frame 4000d has complaints for being flimsy or poorer build quality
is the bigger case better for airflow too? im doing air cooled

>>106478055
because DDR5 sucks it's the only reason this meme 48GB ram config even exists now

Would there be a problem if i plug sata power cables from another PSU than the one attached to the mobo? Looking at PSUs and
> 6 SATA drives on old case
>4 sata cables on prospective PSU
Should i buy a better PSU, just looked up the cheapest one that seemed unlikely to fry
> NZXT C750 Bronze

>>106478186
i would not buy any 3080 not because it performance but because the usage, those were very popular card for mining and they are now over 5 year old even if you change your thermal pads the card could die on you at any moment

>buy SN850X w/Heatsink
>thought the second ssd slot had a lot of space
>it's right underneath the whole gpu
now I'm wondering if this will fit

>>106478411
oh fuck please no even the jewish insiders know it nonono how and why i cat take it anymore please justt take all of this pain away from me i devoted my life to shilling a taiwan company over the internet

>>106478020
I miss 3.5" bays

>>106477544

more pcb layers more money

>the year is 2025
>anything with a Gigabyte logo is still e-waste

>>106478145
it is 2025
everyone is using DLSS/FSR
devs are putting framegen in their requirements
all is lost

>>106478485
This chart is outdated, but AMD can't compete against NVIDIA's data center GPUs without CUDA.
Investors are a bit spooked with all the talk about AI being a bubble.

>>106478374
>8 cores for 8 cores + e-cores
???
don't buy anything at all stop mindless consooming

>>106477021

optimally no storage ponnstar posts a videoclip maybe your gpu carries her colours

cmr hdd for humming so fap fap noises are not too obvious

>>106478411
I'm watching a prebuilt factory tour right now and they have a lot of AMD

>>106478540
Nvidia will not be allowed to fail at this point
This is insanity and they keep pumping it up

>>106472558 (OP)
is getting 3 nvme from western digital a bad idea?
like what if it want multiple drives and get all the wd nvme in the OP
is that correct or should I get different brands even if the drives themselves are different between each other?

>>106478591
I prefer to stick with one brand of SSD because it simplifies the utility apps for firmware update etc.

>>106478484
>he didn't get a mobo with built in heatsinks

>>106478591
it's fine
datahoarders are paranoid autists and don't like buying drives that might come from the same batch because if a batch is bad their server full of drives all from the same batch is fucked
but this mostly concerns HDDs storing dozens to hundreds of terabytes your gaming SSDs will be fine

>>106478606
>>106478620
thanks, figured as much but im glad I double checked

>>106478617
the thought never crossed my mind, guess I'll have to transfer the ssd on M2_1 to M2_2, considering it's just the system ssd I guess I won't run on overheating issues?

>>106478706
Yeah I did an install on my M2_2 slot last night actually, and the clearance under the GPU is in fact tight. It's not too late to also return it for a non heatsink version

>>106478374
AMD has really built up some insane mindshare

>>106478756
I really don't get it.
When they release new chips, they'll release new, better boards. What's the point in switching to AM5 now if you are on a modern system. Only people on ancient trash should be building anything at all now.

>>106477119

just look non christmass tree light components there are not that many to choose from

What cpu has the best single core performance?

>>106478577

it is not healthy to have massive profits over 1%

>>106478837
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/single-thread/
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_value_available.html#single-thread

>>106478850
Apple? That's kinda shocking.

>>106478883
They poached a lot of talent from Intel and AMD.

>>106478405
we cope anon, we are poor and we cope...

>want to upgrade from 1440p 165Hz VA panel
>IPS has shit blacks still
>1440p 240Hz OLEDs are still too expensive desu
>micro-LED never ever
I'm never going to find my "perfect" upgrade

>>106479052
have you considered upgrading to a rope and chair

>>106473356

my haswell computer does not tolerate case open case close while running but you should not do that anyways thats lazy

>>106478994
>>106478883
they're monsters. I have one at home I use for some LLM side projects at work.

>>106479052
isnt va shit?
im thinking of getting a non oled monitor for gaming and editing but monitors are pretty contentious everywhere I look

>>106479052
wait for QDEL

I just don't have the strength to spread the good word of miniled VAs anymore, there are just too many olednigger shills. What do we do bros? Let mindless consoomers spend their money on shit tech while the better tech gets ignored? How tiring.

Amdrones had more integrity when conroe deleted athlon 20 years ago. The mental gymnastics regarding rdoas market share is nothing short or mental illness

>>106479047
No you cope you dumb retarded faggot why do you care so much cunt just buy the fucking hardware and enjoy it and shut the fuck up

>>106479091
I value image quality & contrast over motion clarity since I generally play slower single player games so I went with VA. Calibrated with a colorimeter, it's great for colour work and the better contrast ratio is good for photo editing.
But I don't have to compromise with OLED (other than price and potential burn-in)
IPS is flat out a non-starter for me purely because of its shit contrast ratio

>>106479119
because it's dogshit compared to what Nvidia has. We pretend it's okay, but it's not.

Let me cope in peace

>>106479114
>the good word of miniled VAs
Which models would you recommend?

>>106479129
Love my cheap AOC minileds

What is the best route for transferring all my data and settings from my previous PC to my newly built one? Can I just put my old HDD in my new PC?

I want da best single-core performance cpu under $300. what do I get. all I play is CS2/TF2.

>>106478055

maybe one 24GB stick takes less power than two 8GB

>>106479115
it's funny seeing them do the exact same cope they did with RDNA3 beat for beat including the same copes used for the GPUs not appearing on the steam hardware survey

>>106479127
>because it's dogshit compared to what Nvidia has
Nvidia produces dogshit with fancy gimmicks stop being fucking retarded you would know this if you paid any attention you literal fucking child do you need your mommy you dumb fuck

>>106479218
why is AMD desperately attempting and failing to copy those "gimmicks"

>>106479218
holy shit we're hitting levels of cope I didn't think possible

>>106479148
14600K for $150 (+BF6 code) is the best value CPU atm, respectable single core perf too.

>bought new 4090 for $1300 two years ago before ai blew up
>sold it for $2000
>buy 5090 for $2000
its just that easy

>>106476284
interdasting
i have noticed that 5090s from asus and msi have the connector padded up to the backplate for extra cooling so it must have been getting toasty

>>106479233
>>106479314

>>106479352
I don't buy tech with odd numbers. You're cursed.

my brand new build has the CPU idling at 55C, this isnt normal right? I applied paste and removed the film wrap on the cooler. The only thing I can think of is the fact I only have 1 intake fan and 1 exhaust fan cause I got the barebones case model instead of the RGB version with 3 intake fans. Thermal benchmarks dont by reviewers on the RGB model have the CPU idling at 26C. Is there really that big of a difference in 2 more intake fans?

Parts in question: NZXT H5 Flow 2024, Thermalright Peerless assassin, AMD R5 9600X

GPU temps seem fine

>>106479455
Here's my 9800X3D cooled by a Phantom Spirit 120 EVO with a -20 curve optimizer offset
I did use a phase change pad (Thermalright Heilos) rather than thermal paste though
It's around 7C-8C over my room's ambient

>>106479467
I'm comparing the CCD temps when I say 7C-8C over room ambient btw

>>106479455
ambient temp and cpu/case fan curve?

>>106479455
You're choking out your CPU cooler with GPU waste heat since you don't have positive air pressure or sufficient fresh air going into your case. Get a 5 pack of arctic p12 max fans, populate the 3 front and single back fan slots, you can optionally point the last one blasting air on your GPU from below. Should bring down idles significantly, a higher quality paste or phase change pad like others suggested would probably help even more.

>>106479455
>>106479529
I just realized that you might need their faggot ass proprietary fans to do 3 in the front, if you can't just throw two of them as intakes on top.

>>106479455
Here's my 9800X3D cooled by a Phantom Spirit 120 SE with a -20 curve optimizer offset
OC'd to 5.4ghz with the clock offset and standard thermal paste in a room that's about 22C right now

>>106479467
I have about the same temps in a 26.5C room but my IOD is 7C hotter

>>106479467
>>106479566
X3D chips still generally have a slightly higher idle even with the new cache structure, his 9600x is definitely abnormally high for the level of heatsink he's using, could also be a maxed out PBO2 or wacky LLC but I doubt it.

>>106472558 (OP)
>PC Building General
lel my small pc is the size of a banana lel

>>106479682
I'll have you know my mITX case has an internal volume of 19L and can fit a Phantom Spirit 120 in it

Why are rtx 5090's in stock now?
The switch 2 is also in stock which is weird.

>>106479682
Any build without a modicum of proper research is mental illness, if someone has a use case for sff like traveling or even a console style living room build then they should be capable of building it without overspending or under provisioning. Asrock deskmeet comes to mind and that's ~$200 for board+case+psu while also being under 7L

Asked a while back about a deal for a 5060 ti. Got it but I wanted to make sure about the PSU since the MSI variant needs a 12 pin connector instead of 8. I have a Straight Power 11 850w power supply, is the adapter that comes with the card enough and or should I upgrade the PSU as well?

>>106479467
>>106479508
>>106479529
>>106479565
>>106479566
I think im just gonna let it be for now, like I was just playing ZZZ and the temperature was about the same as idle, just doesn't feel like something I should ruminate over anyways

>>106479735
theres only like 500000 people in the world who can drop $2-5k on a gaming gpu and most of them have a 5090 by now
switch 2 was massively stockpiled for a long time before they were launched so its only natural they have good availability

>>106476796
Tim is blind + refuses to address monitor problems due to sponsorships

>>106476932
>wtf is fringing?
outlines of color around objects that make it look like everything is presented like 3d glasses
might give you eye strain/headache/migrane
>Just turn off HDR so you stop blinding yourself retard.
nothing to do with brightness

>>106477724
>still
what do you mean still?
the resurgence of the tv pill is very real
although now idk anymore

What's a good PSU in like 150-200 USD range, maybe in 850-1000W range, that's high quality and is out of the box easy to set up to power an Asus Prime 9070 XT? Corsair RM850e seems like a good pick, but I am really unsure which to get beyond that this one has outright videos explaining how to hook it up to a 9070XT, and it seems affordable, fairly high quality and not cursed with that shitty melting cable Nvidia has.
>the table tho
The table has a hundred different options, I have too little experience and knowledge to meaningfully operate it.

>>106480067
anon just look at the A and A+ psu
rm1000x is around 180-200usd and the difference between the rme and rmx versions is that rme uses taiwanese caps and rmx uses japanese caps which are better
theres maybe a better psu for you in the list so go over it

>Nvidia has 94% market share
Yeah I'm starting to think all you niggas shilling the 9070 XT and/or claiming to own/want it are on AMD's payroll. Including all the tech YouTubers and other tech influencers.
>9070XT good RTX 5070 bad you need 16GB VRAM minimum updoots the the left thanks for the gold kind stranger
I've owned two AMD GPUs and 3 Nvidia GPUs and never going back to AMD. It's not even a "bang for your buck" situation nowadays, because you pay 100-200 euro extra for a 9070XT over a 5070 and gain... 4 GB VRAM? At the expense of quality drivers (FUCK AMD drivers) and support for DLSS 4? With a very similar overall performance?
Get real

>>106480131
>Yeah I'm starting to think all you niggas shilling the 9070 XT and/or claiming to own/want it are on AMD's payroll. Including all the tech YouTubers and other tech influencers.
hey there mr. userbenchmark

>>106480131
>Nvidia has 94% market share
What the fuck does that even mean? Only 6% of the population has AMD cards?

>>106476796
Is that one ROG Strix video a Tandem WOLED? HUB was talking about it being the same panel as the other Asus monitor last year and I was under the impression that Tandem WOLED was just arriving in the newest stuff?

At the moment my monitor is a LG OLED C2 42" TV (the first 42" of its kind a few years ago) but I was thinking of getting a new 32" monitor so I could consider some multi-monitor options in the future as its hard to get anything on the desk alongside a 42"+ TV. I've heard conflicting elements when it comes to higher end WOLED / LG panels vs QD-OLED / Samsung panels so I'm not sure which are better. For awhile it seemed like WOLED was overall a better package but QD having a few features like slightly higher gamut, but if I was going to buy something new I'd want the latest tech or coming soon. Overall I think I'd prefer a 32" as 27" may feel too small after a 42"+. Generally I'm thinking something that's 4K 240hz capable w/ highest VRR/FreeSyncPremiumPro/GSyncHDR, latest DP2.1 support and latest HDMI (but not exclusively HDMI if possible; ever since they fucked off not wanting to let anything above HDMI 2.0b work with open source drivers, the bastards; still not sure if AMD has a workaround for this yet aside from just dropping something to fit in under 40gbps/48gbps which means usually no RGB 4:4:4 etc. ) . I'd be potentially open to an ultrawide 5K if the quality of the panel/its features are similar, but for now I'm just trying to see what's showing up for the rest of the yea or currently available (unless there's going to be a major leap forward soon after).

>>106476843
My plan is 2tb os, program, games drive, 2tb for media, samples etc. Then 4tb 3.5hdd as first backup in the computer. Then a 2 bay Ugreen Nas with 2x4tb for raid1 automatic backup.

>>106480142
isnt he an intelaviv defender more than nvidia shill?

>>106480131
How many of that 94% are cards directly being bought to be used in datacenters/workstations and never run a directx game? I'm thinking as much as 40% or more, at least the amount that's driving the massive 50% year over year increase in revenue for the gaming subdivision.

>>106480200
He is mostly anti-AMD no matter what the product is. It's so retarded that he even has the 9070XT have a default shitty prehistoric GPU image while, for instance, 5070ti has an updated, accurate image.

>>106480200
not really. you can see his 9070 xt review here

>RX9060XT 16GB is $50 more expensive than an RX7700XT despite having worse benchmarks across the board
Is that 4GB difference such a deal breaker for most people?

>>106480200
>>106480214
>praised 5050
and this is so laughable too

>>106480067
Montech CENTURY II 1050 W
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yJkqqs/montech-century-ii-1050-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-century-ii-1050w

>>106480131
The only people mentally ill enough to buy AMD are probably linux users. And they only buy AMD because of Stockholm syndrome.
Then again if you are buying AMD for a windows PC you are probably more mentally ill than the linux users kek.

>>106480225
Nothing unreasonable there, it's all true.

>>106480226
>>106480095
thanks lads

Is the jump from 2k to 4k worth the FPS sacrifice if I can only afford a RTX 5070 Ti?

>>106480225
Seems like a perfectly valid opinion. The large gist of it is him telling you to not overpay for a 5050 due to stock shortages if you already own something decent and can turn down settings to keep up with modern games.

>>106480258
My monitor is 2560x1440, TV is 4K and my eyes are shit by default, but there isn't too much difference, only if I sit really close to both.

Is it normal to have a 30 degree difference between GPU temp and hotspot temp? Should I be worried on this in a new card?

>>106480258
Definitely not
I wouldn't even think about going 4k without having a 6090 or 8070ti tier GPU

>>106480303
You should worry about everything.

>>106480303
9070xt with hynix memory seems to be running hotter compared to last gen
i think it's the same behavior shown in reviews

>>106480328
Yeah looks like the hotspot being around 85 is normal looking at tests done by other people. Looks like this is all normal. I didn't notice any issues so but I still wasn't sure because what ive read online was mixed.

>>106480342
sorry misread gpu temp with memory temp
the delta is still pretty big, which aib model is that?

>>106480360
Asus Prime

>>106480360
>>106480374
Looks roughly to be within the normal ballpark

>>106480326
Oh I see what you mean now. I was confused. I don't usually come here so I wasn't aware that there is console war style GPU consoooomer faggotry going on.

I'm never going to be able to justify upgrading from my piece of shit rx 480

>>106480429
I had two cards since then, it just became old. If you don't play anything demanding then it's still fine.

Can I mix and match case fans? Like my case already came with 2, i'd like to get 2 more for the intake, it'll be 3 intake fans with 1 being the one that came with the case

>>106480429
You don't need to justify it, but you also don't need to upgrade if you can't find any justification. Why bother if you don't actually play games or use your computer for tasks that your current components are struggling with?

>>106480452
it's fine

>>106480452
Yeah it's fine. Case fans aren't doing anything complicated.

>>106480452
it should be gucci if those case fans aren't non-pwm type so won't have a messy cable management

>>106480303
first amd card? If they die they die just send them to RMA and use the warranty. most of those pieces of shit are not meant to last as they always have terrible temps

>>106478145
>I'm on 1080p and slowly debating on moving to 1440p
Do it, I moved after many years of 1080p and a 1070. The jump from 1080p to 1440p is very very noticeable. My old monitor was also locked to 60fps and this new one goes to 180 and I picked up a 9070xt to replace the 1070 and it is a completely different experience ( in a good way ).

>>106480497
No I have had 2 Nvidia GPU's and this is my 3rd AMD GPU . I don't care for your console war faggotry I don't care about defending the honor of either corporation. I just buy the best value for the money at the time.

>>106480525
is not consoelra war you dumb moron i had to repaste several amd cards and they all had high memory temp
> 6800xt above 95c.
> 7900xt above 90c
> 6600xt-6700xt 90c.
Hope your shitty card dies retard

>>106480529
I’m sorry that happened to you I hope you can eventually move on from your traumatic experience and be happy.

>>106480538
are you stupid? i repaste them because people i know asked me holy shit you are a dumb moron. look at this >>106480388

what part of high memory temp are normal do you not understand you mentally challenged monkey

I keep switching between Nvidia and AMD, so I can shit on both when it comes to an online argument.

>>106480529
> i had to repaste
bruh, those temps are normal for gpu memory chips. what you tried to fix wasn't necessary

>>106480548
those cards were starting to shit itself in performance during games

How come modern GPUs don't come with TDP profiles? It's d be nice to limit their power (not just by +10% or -10%) even further, like 50W or lowest possible.

>>106480546
you need to get with the times and add intel arc and other apu

>>106480543
I hope they at least sent you a jacket.

>>106480572
Intel is still like a babby, they don't even have a GPU that good as AMD's or Nvidia's mid-top tier cards. However looking at their current state, I don't think they git gud soon enough.

>>106480546
I had an AMD card 10 years ago does that count

>>106472558 (OP)
>https://chimolog.co/ssd-vs-kb5063878/
the ssd destroying KB5063878 problem is NOT reproducible

>>106480622
No, only if you swap between these two every time you buy a new card.

>>106480216
I still can't find a 7700xt that cheap here

>>106480216
Most games don't break 9-10GB at 1440p High with DLSS Quality/Balanced. You're not really going above that on this class of GPU, so 12GB is a nice sweet spot.

new noctua AIOs are looking great

>>106480822
I'll take one for $500

>>106480822
cool, looking forward to 2035 when they actually come out

>>106480846
it should be out next year already

>>106480854
anon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-aF0iS4cLQ
intel keeps winning

I don't even know what the latest Intel chips are since they rebranded them to Core Ultra or whatever

AiO coolers are for brainlet zoomers. It won't be quieter, in fact, the additional pump noise makes it unbearable, it might leak, and needs special cases to fix the radiator. Fuck you if you think otherwise.

every so often the display and audio on my computer will get stuttery before the display freezes, and then the display goes out. the monitors act like there's nothing connected to them anymore. it happens rarely and when it does, it's after something display-heavy like a game or a gpu benchmark software is run.
is this like an issue in Windows, is the GPU broken, or something else?

>>106480968
Sounds like a GPU issue, you should try it with a different OS to make sure.

>>106480822
skinny as fuck radiator and a gigantik asetek clone pump head? Looks terrible

>>106480854
>a noctua roadmap being worth anything
hahahahahaha
he don't know

>>106480912
285K
265K
245K

If there are any others I don't know them
265K for around $250 is a good deal now, arrow lake launched at some stupid price with awful bugs but they cleaned those up. 285K is insanely overpriced and 245K is literally worthless.

>>106480987
>white fans
don't remind me please...

w10 or w11 with ryzen 7600 and 4060 for max stability and performance?
Some anecdots from reddit that w11 task scheduler benefits 7600 which has no ecores anyway.
With latest ssd breaking update i guess it's w10?

Is Eaton PS6D a good surge protection strip? My power only goes out like once a decade so I don't feel like I need an UPS, but want to be protected against sky fire etc

>>106481003
>265K
350 euro here. Just fuck my shit up at this point. Not regretting going AyyMD for my latest, even though I'm still sceptical about Ryzen chips a decade later. Intel just giga clowned themselves with these namings and prices.

Trying to use PWM arctic P12, with my old mobo that mainly has DC-only 4pin headers (p8z77-m pro).
I dont know if the motherboard fan control is borked given its age or do PWM fans not respond to DC control?
It's running at full speed even with the "Smart" fan setting in bios.

>>106480822
Needs more brown

>>106477047
If you want an almost failproof storage, always follow the 3-2-1 backup strategy. That said, while RAID (or Unraid, regularly running rsync, etc) is still not bulletproof (even at work we had a server where the whole array failed, so it can happen), it's definitely better than no RAID. You can similarly put SSDs into RAID too, but it's pricey. Also, it's far easier to recover data from a failed HDD than a failed SSD (suffered through both such cases myself), so if that's a consideration then HDD is definitely the way to go.

>>106477845
If you need to run VMs there will never be enough RAM. Same with LLMs but realistically local LLMs suck for non-business and non-porn use cases anyway compared to SaaS options.

>Lexar
based or cringe?

>>106481340
cringe

>>106481040
I'll answer myself I will go with the Brennenstuhl Premium‑Line (26000A) instead

what the fuck are these CPU specs?
>Both bf6 and EUV want 7800X3D
If that's recommended, will they be obsolete in like 3-4 years?
>3600 was acceptable for 6-7 years
but since corpos are gay and for productivity, im planning on buying a 7 series CPU for the same longevity and better performance. Do i;
>have to paypig even more to avoid paying for a new CPU few years down the line
>Go even cheaper with a 7500f so the later purcahse doesn't sting as much
>Stay put with a 7700

https://videocardz.com/newz/radeon-rx-9070-on-intel-x99-motherboards-boot-failures-traced-to-bios-not-hardware

NVIDIA, ROCK SOLID RELIABILITY & STABILITY AND JUST WORKS

>>106481608
probably go with a 7500f now and upgrade to a 12-core 10800x3d down the line

>>106481625
>x99
intel themselves fucked that platform by breaking overclocking and undervolting that its hard to care anymore

>>106481592
Brennenstuhl are the only strips I ever used and I never had issues with them.

>>106481648
Nice, they seem really high quality

>>106476712
>SHIT BRO I DON'T KNOW THEN STOP SHOUTING AT ME

I'M SORRY, I worked around the issue of ghost monitor by fixing the underlying reason why I had to switch sources in the first place.

>>106481692
I never ran into the case that the surge protector had to do its job so I cannot guarantee you that they really work but the build quality is indeed decent.

>>106481625
>pairing a 9070 with an X99 platform
for what purpose

>>106481718
>8c/16t
>ringbus
>4.7ghz oc
never obsolete™

WHEN IS THE 5070 TI SUPER COMING OUT I WANNA CONSOOM RIGHT MEOW

>>106481783
just get a 5080 you poorfag

>>106481802
>just get a 5080 you poorfag
this. should only buy the best

>>106481978
>>106481978
>>106481978

>>106481904
>a 5080 for the price of a 5090
does nawktua really

>>106482016
Not justifying the price, but the fans ($35 each) + custom heatsink (mostly development fee) alone will cost at least $200.

>>106482016
not only that, they're only using the entry level tuf pcb on that despite costing more than an astral

>>106481592
good call, I have one screwed in under my desk (without surge protector though). I will be adding a second one next to it soon.

>>106482111
TUF's PCB with 16 VRM is more than enough to set good daily OCs, the bottleneck is NVIDIA's voltage limit & silicon lottery.
Very few people bother to XOC a 5080, and they wouldn't be buying Noctua cards to begin with.
ASUS keeps ROG cards as the halo tier cards.

>>106480258
Just DLSS it, QHD->UHD DLSS should be barely distinguishable from native UHD.