Thread 106485212

https://linuxmint.com/rel_zara_whatsnew.php

New Notes Desklet, Faster shutdown, Kernel 6.14 and a whole lot of other redesigns

Time to updoot, MIntchads!

Why use this over Zorin?

>>106485212 (OP)
zaza linux

>>106485212 (OP)
fingerprint authentication is bretty gud

>>106485254
- not made by random russian
- doesn't have paywalled edition providing no benefit

How the upgrade works?
I have LMDE 6, so this is not my version, but I guess a new version of LMDE will come out someday. Does the upgrade wipe my OS drive and all the configurations/programs?

>>106485605
I just clicked next through their update wizard a few times and restarted. Everything is the same.

>>106485254
Mint is basically Ubuntu if it was good

>>106485212 (OP)
>Faster shutdown

It takes like 2 seconds to shutdown anyway lol. Did they get it down to just 1 or something?

Updooters have such hurry.
How is the new release?

>>106485212 (OP)
>Faster shutdown
I'd prefer faster boot, but ok.

>>106485700
it's basically the same. I guess theming is better now since they maintain their own libadwaita fork.

>>106485212 (OP)
>Check "New Features" for Cinnamon Edition
>Small updates to sticky notes
>IPTV application improvements
>Updated (new?) fingerprint setup
>Some tweaks to theme integrations
>Fix for an EDID color correction oddity
>Security updates through 2029
BASED.
This is EXACTLY why I use Mint.
No huge "innovations" that I don't need.
No wasted effort "reimagining" desktop computing.
Mostly existing things that got a little bit better.

Best of all, there's no rush, so I'll update in another month.

Updooting right now

>>106486380
Same reason I like XFCE
There's some fags here who call it "dead" literally just because it takes 2 years between releases and it's just small improvements. Why do you need your DE to have an updoot every fucking month?

>>106486424
That was easy

>>106486446
Installing the new kernel.

I just installed this. Didn't have Linux on this machine before then.

Odd that the screen won't go to sleep after 15 minutes despite that being what I set it to. It tries to, the screen goes black, but before it can turn off completely the screen turns back on. Other than that I'm not having any issues.

Does cinnamon support fractional scaling yet?

>>106486467
>new

>>106488830
as well as gnome, partially. doesn't hit every program so not there irl

>>106488830
No

>>106488830
>>106489389
>>106488956
>Does cinnamon support fractional scaling yet?
>No

>>106489413
It doesn't. Only on the experimental Wayland session, maybe. I just scale the fonts to 1.2 and that's good enough for me.

The new theme has a more modern blueish tint i like, the stock software is the best in linux, only uninstalled a couple of apps

There is one thing I need urgent help with, on previous windows, adding a grub entry for cpu scaling to performance worked fine after grub-update, not it doesnt apply the setting, can not figure this out yes really need to

>>106486424
It's weird, normally they announce the new release and provide the update a few days later. But this time I got it on the update manager BEFORE the site had the new release.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHAT IS THE GOD DAMN OBSESSION WITH ROUNDED CORNERS

I WANT SQUARE FUCKING CORNERS YOU GOD DAMN APPLE COCKWOGGLERS

IF I WANT AN APPLICATION THAT'S SAFE FOR TODDLERS TO SWALLOW, I'D ASK FISCHER PRICE TO DEVELOP IT

>>106489513
Round is good

>>106488869
Unstable kernel breaks networking on many thinkpads. Newer isn't better. Tested is.

>>106488869
This is a fail, from gnome to fedora who can't even do a simple correction.

>>106485212 (OP)
can i test drive it off a ssd before commit?

I FUCKING SMELL MODERN. THIS UPDATE BETTER NOT HAVE MODERN ANYTHING.

Luv me mint

>>106485605
>I have LMDE 6, so this is not my version
Same.
>LMDE will come out someday.
They said they'd start on LMDE 7 once Zara is out.
>>106485627
>Everything is the same
Wonderful, isn't it?
>>106486103
>better now since they maintain their own libadwaita fork
I've noticed a bunch of things I feel could complain about Mint (coming from Windows), is actually something to blame Gnome for.

>>106485254
>Mint: packages from 2023-2024
>Zorin: packages from 2021-2022
Zorin is even more outdated than Mint. Probably half the shit people want won't work on it.
The only reason people use Zorin is because it looks like windows. But honestly it's looks peaked with Zorin10/Zorin11.

This is not to say that Mint is a good distro either. Anything that doesn't ship with KDE/GNOME is literally a niche or hobby distro.

>>106485605
LMDE is generally released 3 months after the latest Debian. So, it'll take another month or two before they release it.

>>106488567
There's probably a device or application waking up your PC.

>>106488830
Get a display which doesn't require you to use scaling.

>>106489805
>>106486380
They forked Adwaita to decouple Cinnamon theming from Gnome's UI decisions. It's technically a pretty major update.

>>106489513
rounded corners are for white men only

mint chads I kneel

>>106489435
Once again, vital help needed with grub-update not applying the correct cmd setting or cpu scaling, on previous versions it worked, same lowlatency kernel, what could that be??

>>106485212 (OP)
>am 5'7" male
>developer job in an office
Am I a desklet?

Cinnamon or the rat?

>>106491575
Xfce is much lighter and Cinnamon isn't really that much ahead in terms of features. So, Xfce.

>>106491575
Cinnamon is fast as fuck on my 7 year old Dell. Well, much faster than Win 10 anyway. You'd need some real old piece of shit to make xfce necessary. Not tried it on my other 11 year old laptop, but since Debian KDE is great on that, I'd imagine Mint Cinnamon would be fine too.

It just werks

>installs linux mint cinnamon edition
>sets Mint-X as theme (as Mint-Y and Mint-L are for pansy zoomies)
>cracks open a white monster
>*sluuuuurp*
yup, its time to linux.

>>106486446
>>106486467
Why is it blue now.

>>106491953
>>cracks open a white monster
Weird flex but ok

>>106491999
lurk moar

>>106492047
I spend enough time on this board of nonces as it is thanks.

>>106485212 (OP)
Does Linux Mint have a pulseaudio/systemd/wayland free offering? If not, they can go fuck themselves.

>>106492297
no. for schizos there's void and gentoo.

>>106491953
Here ya go frendo

>>106492324
So, Linux Mint is for brain damage degenerates? Got it.

>>106490666
>Wonderful, isn't it?
Yes

>Still uses the ancient abandoned libgnomekbd with a hard limit of 4 simultaneous keyboard layouts
When will Cinnamon stop being stuck in 2011?

>>106491644
Cinnamon apparently has the worst battery life between all DEs.

>>106491575
The difference between Xfce and alternatives was meaningful back in 2009 when people were running Netbooks with 2GB of RAM. Xfce isn't as lightweight as it used to be, and your CPU wastes more time and memory a browser tab than the difference between DE/WM. Try Cinnamon in live environment, and if it's fine, go with it.
Disable animations if you really care. I think that's supposed to be good for battery life, but I disable them because I find them distracting.

>>106492579
That's why I never installed it and I don't even use laptops. The thing smells of bloat. XFCE ftw

>>106492544
Use case for more than 4 keyboard layouts?

>>106485700
>Updooters have such hurry.
Good morning sar.

>>106489752
>Red boxes around random shit
Ok buddy

>>106485432
Is there any built in telemetry?

>>106492669
Yes, but nothing to worry about.

>>106486380
Still no HDR support meh

>>106492579
lately seen an irc user quote some discord faggot from some bridge, saying just "life" after the discord faggot spouted something boring and uninteresting about "battery life"

the ensueing butthurt for hours is priceless. i still seek enjoyment from it by telling you about it right now. the internet is soooo complicated, buddy. you have no idea what you're in for.

>>106492579
That just because of the frenchie's video. Never any difference on my machines.

>>106492579
Wayland has even better battery life since it can just display overlays instead of copying framebuffers redundantly.

>>106490829
It's a nothingburger. The UI elements are still the same Adwaita rounding that look nothing like the GTK3 windows. You also still get popups that glue to the window as seen in the Calendar app.

>>106489780
It's HAMTAROOOOOOOOOOO TIIIIME (CHIK CHIK CHIKI CHIKI BOOOM)

>>106492633
One for my native language, US for general purpose use, Greek for my secondary language, Russian for calling people online bitches, and Spanish for my lessons.

>>106493107
As long as it changes the colours to match the theme, I'm glad and thankful for their efforts.

>>106493142
Hope this helps.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/107945/cant-add-more-than-four-keyboard-layouts

>>106493142
US International with Dead Keys for US and Spanish, fixed.

>>106493158
For it to succeed , it also needs to be supported across the Linux community. Other distros that offer GNOME need to support both the original and forked Adwaita, and that could prove problematic. Arch users have to use the AUR at the moment.

>>106493180
>>106493177
Even then, you can't even type in Japanese without installing extra packages that override your config. This was also the case in early GNOME 3, but they added support for IBus directly in the shell in 2012, so Japanese and other moonrune scripts work out of the box and can be switched between effortlessly. This also eschewed the layout limitation.
https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.6/i18n-ibus.html.en
All I want for Christmas is Cinnamon with this.

>>106493322
Then use GNOME. With Dash to Panel on the bottom it's pretty much Cinnamon anyways.

>>106493338
I already do that, but it's a mere imitation of a real taskbar. Also, GNOME's war on theming is appalling, and I want an out.

>>106493222
From what I understand it's meant to be a compatible drop-in replacement. Applications wouldn't need to target it specifically. Systems or apps which have their fork will be themable, systems/apps which don't won't be themable.
>As a soft-fork, libAdapta is regularly synchronized with new versions of libAdwaita to maintain compatibility
>The library includes a compatibility header, allowing developers to switch between libAdwaita and libAdapta with minimal code changes

>>106485212 (OP)
>An Android companion app called StyncyNotes was written by Graham Bygrave. It's available at https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.grating.styncynotes.
>literally naming your app "stinky notes"
Why are FOSS devs like this?

Why does it always take a million years for new versions of mint to release? It’s not like it’s some massive undertaking to update repos.

>>106492669
>>106492709
Snapshots and uploads your fingerprint to the NSA
Nothing personnel

>>106493465
You either get Stinky Notes or some retarded acronym you need to google the meaning of. There's no in-between in FOSS. I've made my peace with it.

I like mint

>>106493484
The last version took 9 months; and before that they usually took around 6 months. Unless you mean full versions, not just point, which follow the Debian release cycle which it's based on. Debian takes ages because its main goal is stability, and takes a long arse time to make sure everything is cushty.

>>106493131
>>106489780
v cool answer guise
i havent used mint since 'rebecca'

>>106485212 (OP)
does this new libadapta theming for libadwaita apps also apply to flatpaks? overall, pretty cool new little feature that makes the apps more consistent with the whole desktop. hope they will now fully focus on wayland for cinnamon.

I'll be honest I still don't know if I want to put Linux Mint on my main gaming PC, another distro, or just stick with Windows 10 atm
Like Mint is the only distro i've ever used and I like it, but I've only used it on low-end hardware not meant for gaming

>>106485432
>biometrics good
souless

>>106486380
I will updoot the next time I need to install a vm to do some linux stuff

>>106497051
>or just stick with Windows 10 atm
If you don't want to bother with IoT LTSC, just use MAS to activate ESU on your current install. That will give you security updates until Oct 2028 so you'll have plenty of time to think about it

using 2020-2021 hardware on 22.1 is it necessary to upgrade to 22.2 for rounded sticky notes?

>>106488567
Ive had this issue for a long time and never figured it out

Ubuntu says it is re-writing sudo in rust.

>>106498615
Why wouldn't you want to upgrade?

>>106499685
Use case?

>>106499685
I assume there's a file search utility which supports searching by comment and tag since you can edit those (at least on KDE)

>>106489805
based

>>106499685
There's surely already a file manager that can do that, or you could just add the feature yourself to one you like since unlike winblows you have choice

>>106499122
Yes, will be implemented in 25.10

>>106499122
>reinventing the wheel just for the sake of reinventing the wheel
Canonical really is retarded.

>>106499685
Xnview?

>>106500994
Actually it's for the sake of cuck licensing