Thread 106491806

What are /g/ approved drawing tablet brands? Jewcom is overpriced, and Xencelabs is trying to be Jewcom v2.0. What do you think about XP-Pen and Huion?

>>106491806 (OP)
>drawing
>in 2025
Learn to prompt grandpa

most formulaic coffee good for you post i've seen in a while

>>106491806 (OP)
I have only tried wacom tablets and they all work great moreless
IDK about the other ones.
Just get a used one or one of the cheaper moderls

>>106492057
I agree that old wacom pro are durable and good, but their recent wacom pro lineups are way worse than the previous pro lineups.

>>106491806 (OP)
XP-Pen is OK, but realistically you don't need a drawing tablet. If you must draw, do it on paper.

>>106491806 (OP)
you don't need to draw anymore. You can use AI

>>106491806 (OP)
>worksafe board
>this
can you stop finding loopholes to post porn in blue boards

>>106493467
>If you must draw, do it on paper
It's better to use a scanner?

>>106493478
AI is boring to use. it just feels like a lazier form of imagination. like i can just think the prompt in my head and get the result. i'd rather draw to see what my hands can do because it tends to lead to stuff i wouldn't anticipate.

>>106493752
well in the end you can do whatever you want, however, these days, I think it's pointless to draw, code, etc., unless it's a hobby. You can generate tons of images and achieve whatever you want, faster than drawing.

>>106493787
eh, that's true but it ends up feeling like the imperfections it produces have to be edited out too much to obtain something useful. i get that it's faster by an order of magnitude, but if i am spending as much time doing touchups as i would just redrawing with it as a reference, i'd just start from scratch so i can at least be improving my own skills. i end up just using generated images as a catalogue of reference material for the most part as a result, or maybe as a storyboard, but it would always be an intermediary step rather than a final result. that might change later on though, who knows how much better it'll become in terms of creative input.

>>106493510
Did you get fired too, anon?

>>106493813
fair enough. I just think it's a waste of time, but go ahead.

>>106491806 (OP)
I've had a Wacom 13hd for like 9 years and it's okay

>>106491806 (OP)
I like my huion but I haven't checked their prices in a while so idk if they're still good for the cost. Display tablets were a game changer for me, so I definitely recommend springing for one of those. Cintiqs sucked ass. At least they did when I tried it last (2013 or so), so take that as you will.
I've heard decent things about XP-pen, too.
Whatever you do avoid /ic/ for recommendations. There's a turbo autist/Wacom employee that will spam any thread to death about it there.

>>106493478
They don't get what I want to make right. Asking the bobot to make it for me never turns out.

>>106491806 (OP)
I use a cheapass Huion and it's served me well for some time.

>>106494115
read my other reply
>>106493787

>>106491806 (OP)
Go with Wacom, they're worth it. A tablet is something that's supposed to last for years and years, you get used to it on muscle memory level and moving to a new one is painful.

>>106491806 (OP)
huion kamvas 22 plus

>>106491806 (OP)
Drawing is pretty much dead in 2025.

Use AI.

>>106494284
This is the most elaborate troll I've ever seen. For what purpose?

>>106494680
This is so sad it is unreal fr

And soon thinking as a process will become obsolete. I think we are the last generation of people who have used their minds for the process of reflection. We will find out what we are thinking about from the machine.

>>106491806 (OP)
This thread is full of lazy unimaginative consumers oml

>>106494284
Go back to /ic/ autist, there are plenty of threads there to shit up

>>106494793
It's not sad, it's a logical step in the evolution of how we use tools. Instead of using tablets or photoshop or any other drawing software or God forbid a pen and paper like caveman you use AI to get precisely what you want, twice as fast. So logically everyone just stopped drawing already like a caveman and they're using AI for everything, from youtube thumbnails and ads to cartoons and movies.

>>106491806 (OP)
Look man. I've tried some and went back to Wacom because it just works. You can get a refurbed one for quite cheap. Also ipads are extremely good but again, get an older or refurbed model as the pricing is insane.

>>106494832
>get precisely what you want
This is cope. You will never ever get exactly what you want with AI. You just lower your standards until the slop is tolerable. That's why it's called slop.

>>106494873
>You will never ever get exactly what you want with AI
Prompting skill issue.

>>106494898
There is no skill to prompting. That's the point of the tool - to remove all skill and homogenize all results. You're allowed to gobble up all the slop the bobot shovels out for you, but don't call it what it isn't.

>>106494935
Next you'll call me a luddite because you know I'm right and the llm can't formulate a decent enough argument for you.

>>106494832
Drawing develops special potencies of the brain. With AI, this potential degenerates.

>>106494955
>Drawing develops special potencies of the brain
Care to elaborate?

>>106494935
Still looks like prompting skill issue. Go check out what other anons over at stable diffusion general make using local models and realize that drawing is dead and done.

>>106494981
an analysis of one's own worldview that is not based on subjective stereotypes

>>106494981
Drawing helps develop the premotor area, parietal lobe bilaterally, and the left precuneus. It helps develop and maintain advanced motor skills, communication skills, cognitive skills, and perception. Relying too much on something else to do it for you actively decreases the ability to perform these functions. It's what is meant when you "turn your brain off" by watching slop on TV, and it's a growing mental health concern when that is applied to all facets of life the way it has been. It's why there's a seemingly sudden rise in suicides spurred on by these llms as opposed to when they first became popularized with games like AI Dungeon

>>106494997
>You have a skill issue because you don't gobble up the samey cp slop that the spam threads keep reposting
bait used to be believable

>>106495046
You sound like some 90 year old gramps rambling about people using tools that are a little bit more advanced than a pen and paper.

>>106495075
That's because your brain melted from asking the bobot to do everything in your life for you, zoomer.

>>106495084
>not delegating your shitposting to AI
Step your game up.

>>106493478
AI is unwieldy and the results look horrible no matter what.

>>106491852
It's still nice to have a tablet for that, making small adjustments before image2image or inpainting is much easier that way

>>106494747
I'm not trolling, Wacoms last. Back when I bought my current Wacom Chinese tablets weren't even an option. They also support their hardware for a long time, though they do stop releasing drivers eventually for very old tablets. Drivers can be shaky but I imagine Chinese stuff isn't any better.

>Thread derailed by AI drones.
Can you not? You have like 40 threads in /g/ for fucks sake.

>>106495136
why did you record yourself editing someone else's drawing of Musashi to look less like he's supposed to and how does that support whatever schizobabble you just posted about wacom?

>>106495138
Why are you asking /g/ about drawing tablets when there's an entire separate board for art?

>>106491806 (OP)
Holy FUCK
AI slop could NEVER

>>106495216
because
>>106495136
this retarded wacom jeet shits up all tablet discussion threads on that board.

>>106495237
This site makes people lose their minds over the most retarded shit.

>>106494680
This board's image gen generals exist in a bubble.
Go around literally any board except /g/, 99% of images posted are drawn, not generated.
Go to Twitter, most art posted is not generated. People are going through extreme hoops in boorus and pixiv to filter AI, nobody is asking for it, it's generated into the void.
AI art has kinda stagnated mid-2024, like a solution to a problem that does not exist.

>>106491806 (OP)
Don't ask /g/, they don't draw and is obsessed with AI. I don't own a screen tablet, maybe in the future. I heard that you have to deal stuff with parallax and calibration when owning one.

Just a FYI, Xencelabs is owned by XP-Pen. Both XP-Pen and Huion can be hit or miss in terms of build quality such as wobble, pointer lag etc. My main gripe with them is that their IAF can be too high (the pressure needed for the pen to register). Wacom have really low IAF like 1g? Which really makes a difference when I'm doing light sketching, it doesn't bother some people though. I think Huion is catching up with 2g IAF pen tech but that's only compatible for screen tablets iirc.

If you're still unsure, check this guy out, he recommends CTL 672 or Frego M if you're choosing your first pen tablet and there's other info on screen tablets.

>Link
https://docs.thesevenpens.com/drawtab/about-thesevenpens

Good luck, OP.

>>106495329
The problem is no one wants to pay artists a premium to make shitty art.

>>106495329
that shit is integrated into photoshop already, and IMO its most common use is enhancement , not complete generation, I honestly doubt that drawfags will last long if they aren't already outnumbered already.

>>106491806 (OP)
I've got a big regular Huion and a totally-not-Cintiq Huion. The regular tablet is great, just works on GNU/Linux, works with as much sensitivity as I want it to, can't endorse it enough. The Legally Distinct Cintiq shit the bed after owning it for a few months, but I accidentally bought with a mini HDMI umbilical rather than the new ones with usb-c.
My parents bought my some XP-Pen something or other 25 years ago for my birthday and that thing still holds up too, I just stopped using it because it's 4:3 and works weird with modern aspect ratios.

>>106491806 (OP)
why not a stylus + pad for desktop? not comfortable?
>>106491852
you still benefit from being able to draw to correct AI prompts

>>106495718
What was the model of the huion one? I'd be heartbroken if those started enshitifying

Why not a drawing screen that I can hook up to my Windows computer?

>>106495756
so, a drawing tablet? like the one OP is talking about?

>>106491852
It will never be as good as real art. rope yourself, ai troon.

>>106495870
>It will never be a-CK

>>106495929
greedy kike hands uploaded that picture. rope yourself.

>>106495929
kek I asked DALL-E to do that prompt and look at the result. Indeed surprisingly good.

why is the wiki a stub

>>106495929
something weird is very obviously going on with that image though. The paper lines aren't straight, the ink color shifts in the middle of the line, hands are still wrong in even non convincing ways.
>>106496014
This is much more convincing, but the text is too clean and the paper texture is too canned.

>>106495448
They're really not, their number is actually growing in all platform, and I don't even need to tell about people's opinions on those integrated gen tools. All artfags I follow use Clip Studio Paint these days, anyway.
Again, go out of your bubble, take stroll around the different boards, check the art posted, try to see the ratio between gens vs the hand drawn, hopefully it'll snap you out of it.

>>106496209
Csp is used because it's cheap, same with SAI.
Adobe is still industry standard and procreate is SUPER common too

>>106494197
I make 150k a year coding and our business is getting more work than ever because we specialize in cleaning up AI/jeet messes.

>>106491806 (OP)
I dunno anything about drawing tablets but I hope the new Framework 12 is great at doing that once the stylus is released even though I probably won't be buying one any time soon since my old Latitude is still kicking along just fine.

>>106491806 (OP)
>Jewcom
they just released a cheap tablet you ungreateful peace of shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnGji_u53UQ

>>106497373
If price was the main consideration people would be using Krita over CSP.

>>106495929
Every post in this macro was made by a bot.

Xp pen is pretty good for the price and their drivers work fine.
I've had no complaints with it other than the colors being a bit washed out compared to my main monitor, but that seems like a common problem in screen tablets.

>>106496209
if they are using ai to touch up their stuff, you probably can't even tell, and it will be even harder to tell in the near future.

>>106491852
flipper dipper

Get an old wacom tablet. They haven't improved the technology in decades, so there's nothing wrong with an ancient one. It's like a ti-83. If anything it's gotten worse in some cases (AES).

>>106491806 (OP)
If you don't care about tilt, xp-pen deco series are pretty sensitive, I've been using it for years, it also works on linux ootb if you care about things like that.

>>106498556
Does krita have animation features?

>>106491806 (OP)
I work with real artists I can say with certainty that a vast majority use an ipad and procreate for their main drawing/sketching purposes and then move to adobe for rendering or whatever other tools needed. judging from this thread and the IC population, they don't like apple products but again I work directly in the industry and I see it 8/10 times. take that as you will

>>106498944
the "industry" is pretty broad. everyone I work with uses either wacom or real paper scanned -> continued in photoshop with wacom. some people use procreate for fun or whatever but it's too simplistic for serious work. photoshop or maybe corel painter. the only people using apple products are the ones in front who need to fulfill customer's stereotype expectations.

i have an xp pen deco 01 v2 and it has everything i'd ever need. really cheap (on aliexpress they have a warehouse in poland which is nice if you live in eu). it doesnt have eraser on the opposite end, but the rocker button is convenient enough for that. i wish the tablet buttons were bigger and nicer. on mobile this tablet fucking sucks, just get a smasnug with pen support.
i recommend getting the largest tablet you have space for, because you can make the active area smaller in the driver software. dont look at low end screen tablets, because they might have cursor offset (all screen tablets have shit contrast because of the rough coating)

>>106491806 (OP)
Don't look at brands, look at specific models. All brands have bad products.
For Huion specifically (and XP-Pen probably also since they are almost same brand) anything using the *latest* pen-tech is really good. Older models are unusable garbage.

Are screen tablets a meme?
Feels like regular ones would be superior as you can have better posture and your hand won't block the whole image

>>106499370
Either works fine, its personal preference.

>>106495329
That was such a fucking weird mango.

just a tip for anyone actually thinking of getting a tablet, if you set up notifications you can find them for absolutely DIRT cheap used on ebay.
sometimes they're practically brand new and some company just got one from amazon returns and is reselling it.
i got a $600 tablet for $20 because the seller thought it was broken (he was plugging the cables in wrong so it didn't appear to work).
you can gamble on like 20 "broken" tablets before you even approach the retail price of a new one.

>>106499472
QRD?

>>106491806 (OP)
The real question is whether there's anything good for drawing on GNU/Linux. Krita exists but I literally don't see anyone using it at all on Windows, which implies that superior options exist.

>>106491806 (OP)
Unironically buy an iPad and apple pencil. It minimizes the barrier to drawing.


XP-pen is fine but I only have experience with their non-screen tablets. Good value for money. Huion's okay

>>106498609
That's just cope, nobody uses AI to touch up their stuff because it fucks up the overall style

>>106499864
Not really? One of the best artists on the market always uses Krita for the overall composition and sketch and then photoshop for color and shading because he's more familiar with the latter's bells and whistles, but he plans to move fully to Krita once he feels he's ready