Thread 106501047

How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide

>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/

>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archieve, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18
• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20
• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
• EPZ Queer1 Pro (V-shape) - $35
• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28
• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8
• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18
• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38
• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

Previous Thread: >>106469786

Asking again because the last thread died.

Is there any portable player that will allow me to connect with a subsonic/navidrome server that doesn't run android? Everything just seems to be either the most barebone OS ever made or just a fucking phone.

The “KB EAR” Coffee eartips have been generating a fair bit of buzz among reviewers lately, so I decided to purchase a set and see what all the fuss was about. Interestingly, these eartips don’t seem to feature in KB EAR’s main product catalogue, which leads me to believe they are sold under consignment.

Now, let’s address the elephant in the room: are these eartips worth your time and money? From my perspective, the answer is a resounding no! Their performance is mediocre at best, and here is why. My initial impression was how congested the upper frequencies sounded, despite the fact that these eartips have a wide bore. Typically, wide-bore eartips, such as KB EAR’s own TRI Clarions, tend to accentuate the treble, lending a sparkle and liveliness to the overall presentation. In this instance, however, the Coffee eartips sounded as if the upper frequencies were struggling to break free. The soundstage is surprisingly narrow as well, which is rather disappointing. Vocal presence is acceptable, but due to the aforementioned treble congestion, female voices can sound somewhat nasal. The bass is rather weak, too. There is a hint of mid-bass bloat, which adds a bit of body, but there is no real definition or texture. The sub-bass also sounds dispersed, rather than delivering a straight, deep dive.

On a more positive note, these eartips are indeed comfortable for extended listening sessions, as one of the reviewers highlighted. They certainly live up to that claim. Personally, I would not recommend the KB EAR Coffee Soft Silicone Eartips. While they are undoubtedly comfortable, they ultimately degrade the sound performance of your IEMs. In my opinion, the sonic compromises outweigh the comfort benefits, making these eartips a less-than-ideal choice for discerning audiophiles. There are far better options available on the market that offer both comfort and superior sound quality.

Purchase from KB EAR AliExpress Official Store

>>106501073
ipod touch maybe

>>106501047 (OP)
wow Vivian is hot

>>106501524
Fair enough I didn't think of them but it's kinda in that just another phone category for me.

>>106501589
>>106501047 (OP)
she's a hag

XSL is the iem brand that's going under the radar. Has alu iems as low as $20, and their pricey ones only hit like $100. Meanwhile, they graph really well above their price range. This is their $50 one compared to Dunu Davinci. Imo, it punches above it's weight.

>>106501797
2019 ahh graph.

>>106501797
????

>>106501073
>>106501597
>another phone
Yes

>>106501443
How are they as compared to Velvets?

>>106501073
a laptop is portable...

>>106501868
NTA but I like them more than velvets with my daybreaks
Also I don't think they really make much difference in treble for me compared to stock tips...

>>106501797
do they have any options without the elevated niggerbass in your pic?

>>106501878
My desktop is portable with a big enough battery

tfw listening to pbthal vinyl rips on your $0 IEMs through tube amp and R2R

Flangezo won. The Great 'Zo War is over. Chuzo had a chance to be the victior, but he deserted.

newfag here, I want to buy a DAC that has both 3.5 and 4.4mm connector, should I buy Snowsky Melody or spend extra and get Echo Mini instead? or is there any cheaper option?

>>106502176
did Saintzo even compete

>>106502199
only in regard to schizophrenia powerlevel, otherwise he's a worthless shill and a living ad banner

>>106502194
EPZ TP35 Pro

>>106502210
now that's kinda mean :(

>>106502212
that shit is more expensive than both fiios nigger

>>106502194
the new moondrop dawn pro 2
it has dsp too

>>106502229
how's the transition going troonzo?

>>106502232
Slightly more expensive than the Echo Mini where I'm at. My bad.

>>106502242
still more expensive

This Chinaman is laughing all the way to the bank at all the stupid gweilos who put their trust in him. You can tell he enjoys lying to the dirty white man to his face as he peddles his wares.

>>106502319
Good iem

Just bought my first IEM and I'm discovering that my right ear is slightly weaker than my left. Which was always the case, but a IEM makes the difference so much more noticeable compared to a headphone.
Great.

>>106502349
Now you're a schizo
Welcome to the club
Hope you can leave soon

>>106502349
L/R balance exists

>>106502343
are you a nigger or a jeet?

>>106502319
Good iem

You can safely discard opinions of anyone that uses less bass than harman.

Harman is based on a sample of around untrained 250 listeners, and about 50 of whom (20%) were literally niggers, which is an overrepresentation. But more importantly, why would you arbitrarily follow the Harman target when it's based solely on listener preference when we know listener preference varies wildly when you separate groups by gender, race, age, listening experience, etc. even according to Harman's own research? Women for example prefer less bass than Harman. As do older (30+ year old) men, trained listeners, and just the average white listener.

>>106502343
It breaks

>>106502319
That the only solace these "men" have

>>106501047 (OP)
>>106499313

Asking for help again from the last thread

Totl anon here. Impressions with the Sovereign Symphony 8W. Unofficial cable from Nightjar and MSRP is around 15,000 SGD (not sure about US pricing).

>Ergonomics
0/10. This cable is literally painful to use long-term. Normally when I wear the Storm with the stock Mira cable, the 2pins are angled inwards, pointing towards my head, but the earhooks and 2pin connectors for the SS8W are fucking massive. There’s no room left for an inward angle and this changes the insertion angle for the Storm as well. The Storm is tilted upwards and exerts pressure on my ear canal which becomes sore after just 30mins.

Even when stationary I’ve got to be mindful of how I wear it. The weight of the earhook tugs on my IEMs and so I gradually lose seal whenever I turn my head. It kinda helps if I rest the entire weight of the cable on the table but that means leaning back is out of the question.

Walkability is surprisingly decent with the cable tho.

>Sound quality (A/B’d with stock Mira MK2 cable)
SS8W is a U-shape, bright-leaning cable as compared to the stock Mira. For some reason, on the same volume step, the SS8W sounds louder – possibly due to lower output impedance? Or maybe the boosted coloration is just more audible.

On “Bloody Mary” by Lady Gaga, the opening background static is more audible with the SS8W. Bass is slightly louder but also bloomy, Mira’s bass is definitely tighter and better controlled.

The bright-leaning nature of the SS8W is more audible on weebshit like “Hoshizora no Memoria” and “あの輝きを忘れない” (both by Chata). Chata’s vocals sound a tad more laidback and less shouty on the SS8W (maybe it stages wider?), and cymbals sound more extended.

On Shadow Shape by Hatsuki Yura, I can hear the same bright nature of the cable – more treble texture, but bass sounds slightly muddy and not as tight as the Mira MK2. The muddiness comes through evidently around the 2:40 mark when the drums kick in when the duo sings their duet.

>>106503670
how do you feel that EDC Pro w/ apple dongle wrecks your whole setup?

Got my Moondrop May bros, they're comfy

>>106503670
Humiliation ritual.

>>106502047
>niggerbass
Harman gets called out for it's dogshit bass. That slight boost is good.

>>106504143
I don't like to treat audio as a competition, if you are happy with the EDC Pro then more power to you

>>106504247
>flippantly spending exorbitant amounts of money, in the abyss of diminished returns for what has always been considered marginal, if even noticeable or existing, gains in 'quality'.

>>106504310
BA pos is solid in the negative returns.

>>106504143
whatever u say epzigger

>>106505435
>assuming I own or give a shit about epz
you're already way in over your head, chuddie. don't create problems where there aren't any.

>>106505480
the lady doth protest too much methinks

>>106505495
>I don't love epz, you do!"
lolhvyn2

How to tell the difference between the real ratzo and his epzigger imitator:
Ratzo:
>only talks about enjoying the music
>shills edc pro and other kzs but never engages in techs debatepedophilia
>fat as fuck fingers
Epzigger furfag pedo sussy imposter
>always uses edc pro to shit on other pos thereby shielding his precious epzs from criticism
>never talks about enjoying the music
>constant debatepedophilia over techs
KNOW THE DIFFERENCE

>>106505574
>thinks /iemg/ is relevant enough to canonize anons as if samefagging and instigating constant fights isn't this general's bread and butter.
>prioritizes drama between anons over having a conversation like a normal person.
>still gets it wrong.
KNOW THE DIFFERENCE

After months, or honestly I’d even say years, of tip rolling with every single pair of in-ear monitors I buy, and driving myself crazy trying to find differences between all the different SpinFit models or the new Dunu eartips, or wondering if the stock tips are good enough, etc., and never being fully satisfied, always feeling like I should swap them out for just a bit better sound...

In the end, I’ve decided I’m going to sell or throw away all my eartips and stick with the KBEAR 07 model, specifically. It’s like a Swiss army knife; not the best at anything, not perfect in any way, but good enough at absolutely everything, and it’s comfortable, and it never falls off my IEMs, no matter what.

Also cheap AF and widely available

this is bunny dsp and one dsp differences by gemini. to those who've heard both of these sets,is this accurate?
i like the bullet design and the fact about its fuller natural sound but dont want a closed sounding less resolving set.does bunny sound so thin .

trvke
https://youtu.be/-TT6hwUgo0k

>>106507349
go away scammer

>>106506562
when we getting a NOS chip so i can roll my own resampler

>>106506562
if you're getting dsp, it doesn't matter, you can change the sound with eq
choose based on form factor (bullet vs over ear)

>>106508366
you can't EQ sample rate

>>106508419
you can't, i can

>>106508424
EQ cannot into time domain. Checkmate.

its been many years since ive been recc'd the es4's.
Has the iem space improved since then? I see only stuff I dont recognize in the OP.
is the ECD pro a good budget upgrade to the es4's or nah?

>>106506562
now ask it "is FR everything?"

>>106501047 (OP)
I never really understood how you guys actually rate things for the consumer guide. Like, it seems to be mostly chink stuff, which I don’t care too much about, but are all “western” brands (and I use that term very liberally here as a lot of western brands are just rebranded chink shit) just bad ? I just want some footing. Like, take a shure IEM for instance like the shure aonic SE535, where would it fall relative to the others on the list ? Is it inferior to the 30$ offerings ? Is it simply inferior to everything to such an extent that it’s basically a DNR compared to the other suggestions ? It would be cool to have some more normie choices to compare to. It would make it easier to someone like me who only ever went through mainline products to find something I could be happy with. Then there’s long term reliability too, which I don’t have the slightest clue. A shure IEM would have some warranty, but from what I have seen from other brands, they don’t seem to care that much. I mean, it does not mean they aren’t reliable, but I have no frame of reference from the list by itself without at least some warranty.

>>106509597
>but are all “western” brands (and I use that term very liberally here as a lot of western brands are just rebranded chink shit) just bad ?
pretty much
> Like, take a shure IEM for instance like the shure aonic SE535, where would it fall relative to the others on the list ? Is it inferior to the 30$ offerings ?
probably
>It would be cool to have some more normie choices to compare to.
normie western stuff is above $100 and are abysmal dogshit compared to the cheapest entry in the shopping guide

the only advantage of western brands is their customer service, and also most of the brands use very well fitting shells. apart from that they lack any redeemable quality in terms of sound quality

>>106509597
1. who would distribute chinese pos in the west?
2. who would distribute pos made in the west, but following the CIEM model?

>>106508366 >>106508909
yes.eq will help the sound become fuller or even wider or detailed .theres just different drivers in these two and thre technicals that i dont know can be helped .i simply havent tried many iems or eq'ed ever. i just would want to make a lesser compromise for now .

I got a fair-few TOZO earpods.

Good noise-cancelling for the price.

>>106509776
>theres just different drivers in these two and thre technicals that i dont know can be helped
you're asking ai for help with a topic where you know nothing
it doesn't matter, use the eq tot make them sound as technical as you want

>>106509853
bad advice, avoid

>>106509776
whatever you do, do NOT fall for the R2R meme.

>>106509853
im asking you for help

>>106510000
and i'm telling you that it doesn't matter if you're using the dsp
it's simple eq, and both sound similar

>>106510023
okok

>>106504281
I'd like to bet on house no. 6.

>>106508606
It can.

>>106501047 (OP)
Any tws pos recommendations? Want to go to the gym and have decent audio quality but don’t want to have shitty battery life nor deal with wires. It would be great to have AptX and the best range possible.

>>106509597
The consumer guide is written by one retarded faggot who just uses it to justify his own purchases. Ignore the specific picks. That being said yes the SE535 is worse than cheapos like Bunny or Gate. Chinkshit basically has no warranty so the Shure would likely get much better support but the chinkshit is so much cheaper its still not worth it.

anyone ever uses fiio e10k olympus 2 with their phones? saw one with half the price but I only got a phone. I would still use it if I could somehow connect it to both a power adaptor and my phone

>>106490780
well I've received it and so far I'm disappointed even after watching multiple reviews
>interface isn't actually smooth as purported to be
>scrolling through the library isn't intuitive, trying to quickly scroll just warps you to either the top or bottom but trying to scroll slowly doesn't even let you scroll line by line so trying to slowly scroll would take an eternity
>album artists are case sensitive for god knows what reason
>can't sort albums by release order after opening an artist
>bluetooth connection is poor even when the device is sitting right on my desk, on top of being glitchy and noisy
>bluetooth codecs sometimes crap out, kept defaulting to AAC for some reason
debating whether or not I should just give it a day or two before returning it. any recs for a better player? I initially got this just for use while at the gym due to its size and to avoid using my phone but I'm now open to getting something bigger than it if it means the software isn't as bad

>>106510400
All non android players have horrible software, just use your phone and some twshits for the gym. The background noise is going to ruin any semblance of sound quality anyways, no point in using fancy audiophile hardware. The smallest android player is the Hiby M300 if you insist on using a dedicated player.

>>106505665
Troon

What's your daily driver?

>>106510477
Fox IEM, endgame.

nigga is samefagging again

>>106510490
Bro cropping the russian words lmao

>>106510670
Chatgpt lost.

>>106510674
GPT unironically just scammed a faggot for the second time on another thread. GPT is a good lad in my books.

>>106510490
dis dood sodomizes foxes in cages to death

Time domain niggas are getting uppity again.

Well, I did the consooming, now it's time to learn how to EQ.

>tfw went through like $5K+ of audio gear over the years and I still consider Iris 2.0 the most impressive piece of equipment overall
Like bro just drop $6 and quit audio shopping forever.

>>106510767
I believe it, all while stroking his lament configuration

>>106501047 (OP)
Earfun air pro 4 or RCME TW2 Se215?

>>106510817
im not an anime viewer but this packaging looks so good

I have the Salnotes Zero 2 and they became unbalanced, one side outputted less volume. So I opened the encasement where the driver is and noticed that there were 2 thin yellowish synthetic layers over the drivers and on the side that was outputting less volume this layer was crumpled a bit, I tried to make it straighter but I just punctured it altogether. So I removed those layers from both drivers and now the sound is balanced again volume-wise, but what I'm wondering is: Did I by removing those layers altered the frequency response? Are they necessary for the intended EQ curve of the IEMs?

>>106511536
If they still sound good to you, don't worry about it.

>>106510817
omg nigga, why didn't you buy the dawn pro 2? the 2 has DSP so you don't need to rely on apps

>>106509927
Whats your advice?

Fission Black. It's good, but not worth a full detailed review.
Might post some thoughts along with the usual measurements.

>>106512373
if you want a better pos, just buy one. eq can only take you so far tonally, but it doesn't mimic physical driver behavior.

>>106512852
>>106510769

still using a S12 Pro for my mobile rig

>>106512886
chatgpt wasn't wrong though.

out of some amount of curiosity, i currently own a truthear hexa (bought not out of love for the sound profile, but because it was cheap as fuck secondhand)... what is the minimum i'd have to pay for a noticeably better iem? i guess if you need to know my preferences to answer this question, i think the truthear is fine but i'd like the drums part of most songs to sound a little less loud.

>>106513263
try EQ

>>106511824
>dual CS43198 for cheap
lookin' good

>>106513243
It was. FR = IR.

>>106513524
impulse response=frequency response? my genie says no, tony...

>>106513607
Get a refund then.

>>106513524
>>106513625
impulse response is time view, frequency response is frequency view

>>106513683
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/myths-misconceptions/

>>106513700
nobody reads technical literature by anons.

>>106513720
Chatgpt lied to you.

>>106513700
nobody has ever read this

>>106511824
It wasn't available at my store of choice (I can't order from China for reasons).

>>106513892
Debunked.

M300 meme or not?

Anything as good at that price point?

audio nihilism and narcissists begone

>>106514141
JC abandoned facts over his brothers love.

>>106514021
Yes. The battery will swollen. You pay for the novelty and not for quality.
Use musicolet + don't disturb mode on your cellphone and use the money you would spend on the shity day to support music artists you like

>>106514279
That's my main concern but I haven't seen anything with a replaceable battery either. Can't really keep 1TB+ of music locally on my phone tho sadly.

>>106513263
you'll prob like tri i3 mk3, letshuoer cadenza4, moondrop blessing3

>>106514021
there are various players with pros and cons. m300 is fine for simple 3.5mm use, android os, and decent battery

>>106514644
m300 doesn't do bit perfect (it doesn't bypass the native android audio processing). Better to go with the Fiio JM21.

>>106515100
bit perfect is a meme

>>106501047 (OP)
whats the best way to turn an old LG v30 into the best audio player?

>>106515242
musicolet app. negative pregain. good dongle.

>>106515242
poweramp or uapp

>>106515256
now that I think about it, probably not a dongle, I'm super baked

What's a good EQ for retards? APO+Peace is good for auto-eq but I can't really try my own if I can't see a graph

>>106515487
https://peqdb.com/studio/

>>106515487
There's an EQ tab on all squig sites, and you can also hear the changes in real time on listener.squig.link and >>106515511
Then you just save the result and use it with APO.

>>106515487
just don't forget to disable your EQ when using these sites

>>106515256
>negative pregain
Why

bros, why does pink noise give me the giggles?

Went on Ali today and I'm seeing listings for an updated Zishan Z2?? I can't tell if they're legit but I bought one for $21 and it should come in like 2 weeks later.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtrlbLn

>>106515671
to avoid clipping the digital signal. I mean this is assuming you'll be using the bass gain knob in pic related. musicolet has an equalizer, but I never use it. that bass gain knob just makes it that mush easier to blast bass into my pos. setting negative pregain just allows headroom for my adjustments. you don't, or won't need -30db, but enough of it helps when you decide to crank that bass to 100% and you don't want the mix falling into itself. it's necessary for every other eq adjustment you make as well.

>want to buy a palate cleanser terrible sounding pos
>oh, the KZ EDC is just 3$ and graphs terrible, order placed
>it arrives, I open the package and for some reason it uses the new EDC Pro style 2pin connector and has a new-style silvery mesh on it
>plug it in, it does not sound terrible, just another average 1DD pos and graphs acceptably well
Literally can't even have shit these days

>>106515792
you have to get the diy boutique cheap shit on aliexpress to get truly bad stuff
that and qkz 2 cent pos

>>106515792
Instead of new IEMs that sound bad we are not getting new IEMs that sound fine. Soon, sounding fine will be the popular standard for beginners in the hobby causing diminishing returns to be even smaller.

So, really, we win at losing but lose at winning.

>>106501047 (OP)
Once again, up to 300$, what tws pos should I get ? All I really want is good sound (for a twshitter), a good mic for calls, good battery life, good connection range/quality (NO CUTOFFS) and physical buttons.


As /sci/ would say, you should be able to solve this

>bluetooth
>good mic for calls
Does he know?

>>106487116
Best design but I can't use it with silicone ear tips, only foam

>>106515610
chinese revisionist shill zone where they gaslight you about FR's you will never get, since revisions*

why is KZ so good, bros?

>>106515967
How's it best design then.

>>106515893
I already know bluetooth mics suck for calls. What I want is something that is as good as the other TWshits for calls, if not minimally better, while still providing good audio, good battery life, physical buttons for music (hopefully customizable) and water protection (IPX4 minimal; better with dust production prefered).


Now for a separate request, any cheap DAC like the fosi DS2 or the DSD512 Fosi (for higher impedance) , but that also features good inline mic support (not sure if there are TRRS ones that are good, so I guess one I can use with a TRRS to 2xTRS Y splitter)?

>>106516290
shape, size, colors and carvings

I need a recommendation since my beloved CCA PLA broke on the pin connector and they are starting to fall apart. Financially I would want the replacement to be under 60€. I am mostly looking for good staging and separation, as well as good bass performance. Only other requirement is that I have very small ear canals so the nozzle cannot be too wide in diameter. I don't care about included tips as I have plenty of tips. Good stock cable would be nice though.

Any ideas? I stopped keeping up with all the memes after I got the PLA so now I'm clueless as to what to look at.

>>106516538
PR2

Best TWS for gym? I want good ANC but no air pods coz I have an android. Mulling over Pic rel POS. The anime connection prompt sounds enticing. Heard that Samsung shat the bed with this years buds and they are overpriced anyway

>>106516783
Same as you but I want physical buttons, water resistance and aptX adaptive at the bare minimum. 7-8 hour battery life would also be preferable. Yet no autist wants to help me.

>>106516935
I am thinking about getting the Earfun air pro 4’s , but it doesn’t have a good mic and the shape seems rather uncomfortable. Only other option I could find was the jabra elite 8, and those seem overpriced and some fags online said it doesn’t last very long.

I've had 3 pairs of IEMs so far. Moondrop Aria, Moondrop Chu 2 and Moondrop Space Traveler(1?). I like the sound of Aria and Chu, they're basically the same thing despite a completely different price range, not that big, but noticeable. Sadly, the quality of Aria is disastrous, they got some weird blisters underneath the paint coating in two places, also causing the paint to come off. The wireless ones sound like absolute shit but it's alright since I wasn't expecting anything else from them, I just needed a pair of earphones to use on public transport and occasionally at work.

I'm looking for another pair to try out, I prefer something on the budget side. I just want to increase my point of reference of different sounding earphones, try some new things out. Which of the budget positions in the OP would be worth checking out?

>>106517060
forget about the OP. EA500LM. easiest rec of my life

>>106501047 (OP)
Fuck you fags, I am buying the FiiO TW5’s.

>>106515841
I bought most of the IEMs in the OP for $0 so yea it's ogre, doubly so that I'm listening to vinyl rips through R2R and a tube amp with them

I didn't believe in highres audio until I listened to redbook CD audio on NOS and then again upsampled to 352KHz

>>106510477
Galaxy Buds Pro, Hana 2021, Final E3000

>>106517190
I've heard of those. What makes them special?

>>106517576
Nta but they helped me to learn why there's such a universal love for music in this world. I was born nearly deaf in both ears, never hearing that 'shimmer' always talked about with cymbals, but when I tried the Ea500lms, I finally understood what shimmer was. You should really give it a try.

>>106517692
You can't make this shit up.

What do you autists think of Audio Amigo and his tier list?

anons,

I've got a CCA CRA pair but have decided that I want something V-shaped like my audio technica M50x cans - any recommendations for $20 or below that tick that box and sound about as good as my CRAs? There's lots of options on Amazon and I want to try to not fuck this up, these CRAs are a little too peaky on the treble.

>>106516935
Wait robins aren't water resistant? That's stupid for a 100usd POS. They have LDAC and adaptx support tho iirc. Look at Sony's truffle looking TWS. I think only they do physical buttons these days

>>106517994
Some others do but the sony’s don’t have aptX. Earfun air pro 4 is the closest to what I want but the mic on it sounds like a fart (I know bluetooth audio sucks but all I want is air pod pro mic quality which shouldn’t be too hard

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

can we please update this , there are better shit out there for cheap too

>>106517576
>1DD
>punches way above price
>competes with $150–$200+ pos
>solid metal shells
>super comfy fit
>swappable nozzles for tuning options

>>106517909
kbear rosefinch. qkz x hbb. zero:2.

>>106518113
Is there something better than Vidos for the price? They get hard mogged by Earpods like 99% of all flatheads but those are 4x the price.

>>106518113
doesn't matter, most earbuds are shit

>>106518167
close enough, welcome back chuzo

>>106518113
i think we should completely remove it, worst transducer type ever made

>>106518178
thanks anon

how is eq guide so good? i read it all and not a single misstep

>>106518316
its simple you didn't actually read it because nobody has

>>106502229
Aww, you're so cute when you're butt hurt! :3

>>106510477
Monoprice Trio!

>>106518325
i read every single character, shit is so good

>>106518331
why lie?

>>106518333
i have never lied, i read it all, took me around 8 minutes

>>106518338
quick shot huh? might want to get that checked out

>>106518344
i read quick

>>106518352
read?

>>106518254
been keepin the fort down, son?

EDC Pro is better than Origin.

>>106518448
would be funny if it were real

>>106518448
why do you have so many kids' toys?

>>106518495
this

>>106502047
>that
>niggerbass
You have never heard real niggerbass

VE monk died.
Upgrade flat buds in the OP a worthy upgrade?

Anyone got the snowsky melody yet? How's it? Shite or decent?

>>106518448
(You) must admit old mate has impeccable taste.

>We stole an IEM
>Yeah, on Aliexpress' coins page

>>106519041
>AnimeToon.TV
You're dumb!

>>106518660
probably fine, but it's entering a saturated market
i'd wait for the snowsky tiny coming some time tomorrow
>10 band peq
>small brick
>supports charging at the same time

>>106501047 (OP)
I gotta be honest with you guys, you were right about the sennheiser momentum TW4s. Not about the quality or other aspects, but just the reliability. Why would anyone buy 300$ TWShitters that reliably have their left pieces break after a few months, is beyond me.

Too bad that it seems the TWShitter space seems awful now. No matter the cost, each and every single one of them is flawed (an anon pointed that out earlier and I ignored him only to waste 2 days of research). It's either:

-No good codecs, or one key codec (to me) is missing
-No BT 5.4
-Terrible battery life
-Uncomfortable fit (though it's always accompanied by something else)
-Lack of tip compatibility with other OEMs (likewise never the only issue)
-Terrible mic (or mics), usually either or with no LC3 support
-No water resistance (even IPX4 which should be the BARE minimum)
-No physical buttons or poor touch/capacitive button implementation
-Terrible reliability (wouldn't matter if they were cheap, and funnily enough the cheapos are more reliable)
-Bad ANC making them unusable (more the case for the Sennheiser TW4s)

And this is at any price point; It doesn't matter if you have 10$ or 1000$, in fact it's probably better if you spend the least amount of money possible because you might actually get the most for it.

I can't believe a board of gullible retards was right again

>>106501047 (OP)
>EPZ Queer1 Pro
ummmmmmmmm

>>106519452
owned

I don't think I have ever seen these autismbuds in person in public. Are they actually better in terms of sound quality compared to AirPod Pros? It's hard to give up convenience, but I would get a pair if they were affordable and genuinely better in terms of sound quality.

>>106519110
I consider it having a competitive edge over other similar dac because I like trinkets with wood finishing and it's below 50 usd. As long as it's decent I might buy. However, I'm concerned about the wood housing trapping the heat inside.

Current Driver is The Hexa and my sleeping Driver is the Bunny. im locked in with this hobby but what is the next step after the Hexa in regards to usage for gaming and music?
>inb4 Furry IEM endgame anon

>>106519664
Endgame.

>>106519717
do they come in green?

>>106509597
>warranty
not a problem here in the EU, I can just buy Moondrop, Truthear or Fiio from the local store and have full 2-year warranty without fucking with ali's procedure and sending stuff back, everything is covered by the store
granted, I can't find all the chinaman brands, but there's also amazon with 3-day delivery and full 2y warranty with free returns, so I can still have some benefits guaranteed by market regulations
ali is less reassuring in that regard, so it's my last resort, but I've heard of some degree of success in RMAing stuff there

>>106519841
I had the 7hz for a while are the zero 2's better?
>>106519857
whats the site so I can get an idea of what I want

>>106519878
>had the 7hz for a while are the zero 2's better?
yes. not sure why you bought those when the zero 2 got much better reviews

>>106518448
I'm genuinely shocked by EDC Pro's price to sound quality ratio
its main issue is abysmal QC and (literally) stinky eartips and cable, but the sound of the pos itself? impossibly good

>>106519879
I returned them since I think I got directed to the wrong seller page

>>106519878
Aliexpress, official epz store, ask the seller.

>>106512852
i stand by this

>>106519911
Kill yourself samefag

I bought the Chu 2 to try IEMs, I’m surprised that they sound as good (if not better in some cases) to my 300$ Bose Bluetooth headset. Where do I go from here to see an upgrade?
Is there any difference between the 20$ Iems and the 200$ ones in term of sound?

>>106520249
it's hard to find a straight upgrade from Chu 2 as its sound is quite unique - tastefully imperfect, mainstream V-shape from the 2000s but with proper ear gain and upper treble
I've been looking for the proper upgrade from my Chu 2 and for now I've settled on Truthear Hexa because it gives me the same sparkly, crunchy sound I've been looking for, but your mileage may vary since the Hexa has less bass

>>106520305
As a newbie in this field, it’s insane to me that such a cheap device can be so satisfying to use and hard to scale up from. I enjoy bass for rock music so I’ll hold onto the Chu 2 for a bit more. I guess I can invest in a better cable and ear tips for now. Thanks for the answer

any basshead IEMs but with metal shell recently?

>>106520370
yeah, Moondrop found a sweet spot between hi-fi and that nostalgic warm V, especially if you're a millennial and fondly remember those Sony/Philips buds from the noughties

>>106520378
ZVX Pro is a budget king nobody talks about

>>106520845
>released more than half a year ago
>just two squigs
lmao KZ really killed their brand huh
graphs nice though

>>106502176
>Flangezo won
Actually I lost pretty hard. Triple flanges turned out to be a massive meme. I mean, the smooth af treble is real, but the comfort is ass (even after weeks of getting used to), and the added warmth to the sound is just too much. That said, ER2SE is still king; it's just that adding triple flanges to an iem that is not designed around it doesn't work very well.

It's funny, because I reduced the lower frequencies with eq, but then I thought to myself: If I'm going to need eq anyway, I might as well just use normal tips and eq the treble peaks instead. And then I used my iems with single flange tips but with the triple flange eq with the reduced lower frequencies and really liked it; I loaded the preset into squig.link and it was pretty much raw DF. But I am also more relaxed in that regard, my current global eq is set to JM-1 with -0.6 dB/octave tilt, and I can still apply further tilt (basically the low- and high-shelf filters from the recent Harman paper) in my music player if I feel like it.

So basically, everything is back to normal. I know it's a meme, but currently I really just hit play and enjoy the music.

>>106519884
>I'm genuinely shocked by EDC Pro's price to sound quality ratio
ZVX Pro is a better buy for a few dollars more

Bwowowos, I am now plug-pilled. I got my hands on a SS4W modded with a 4.4mm Topura's Cinqbes (OFC) plug instead of the usual rhodium furutech balanced connector, and the Storm actually sounded more subbassy with tamer treble, shit is crazy.

>>106521510 (me)
addendum: you can tell its a Cinqbes plug by the white plastic rings

>>106518182
>>106518234
>>106518258
nicehck yd30

>>106521510
sad to hear about your mental illness

i have failed you guys for i have consoomed

>>106521510
There's a new trend in Japan audio where balanced 4.4mm connectors have different plated ends. Basically, L+ is gold plated, L- is rhodium, and the R+ is gold, then R- is rhodium. Imagine what you're missing out.

if it was tuned by crin it'd be 5 stars, let that sink in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHIQZESGlr8

Want to sidegrade or upgrade from Aria Snows, is the EDC pro really that good?

>>106522124
I'd love to try that plug type someday, but unfortunately cable manufacturers themselves aren't so keen on using it (I've seen Effect Audio use it on their newer cables but EA has a terrible rep locally due to shady business practices). The new fotm around my neck of the woods is the upcoming gold-plated Furutech plug

>>106522211
yes but SEA chinks will slander KZ because their CEO said DMS looks like a lesbian or stealth revised something 5 years ago

>>106522369
>said DMS looks like a lesbian
if this is true, I'm KZ for life

>>106501047 (OP)
need recs
>less than 200usd
>use is going to be gaming and general media and maybe music recording in the future but least priority
>I prefer a neutral frequency cause I listen to too many different genres
>have kinera celest wyvern black and I like them a lot but I would like to know if theres something better out there or the difference with more expensive iems would be marginal

>>106501047 (OP)
newfag here. is there something that sounds similar to a HD600 in the iemworld? Preferably under $50 if possible

yall use a music player app or just files and mpv?

>>106520845
>>106521030
Chat, is this worth $0?

>>106523192
coinzo... no....

>>106522890
Truthear Gate gets pretty close. You might need EQ to get the lower midrange to so a little closer.

has anyone actually tried the JIEZI? is the app good enough and noiseless?

>>106523221
thanks a lot

>>106523181
files and mpv for me

>>106519303
Do you think manufacturers are skipping on IP ratings because the certification cost adds to the expenses and the buds themselves are water resistant enough?

>>106521027
Its so over

We can all agree that Harman is Niggerman, right? I'll henceforth be referring to it as Niggerman target. Brownoids love their equalized Vslop after all.

^ Sheesh talk about low test, this guy thinks Harman is too bassy lol

>>106523663
Harman is too bright.

>>106523701
never read the eq guide award

>>106523764
>he doesn't know

I'm liking my Tempotec V1, to be quite honest. Now to organize the music collection...

>>106523764
bro...
foxzo = guidezo...

Moondrop MIAD02 when?

$0 IEMs and VX Pros

>>106524421
Ok what's up with the whole "$0" thing? Can you actually get them free? Do you need an additional minimum purchase or something? Do you need to waste hours waiting for drops or something?
What's the catch?

>>106524453
You open the app every day to hit a button, read some of the front and coins page and maybe do a search query

This is my fav $0 so far

Epz doesn't make you feel the need to fill the void by hoarding iems. Just wanna put that out there for anyone who needed to know.

>>106524599
My $0 sounds better. And the best thing about $0 is that there's so many $0s.

>he would rather believe that connectors change the sound than EQ to their preferred tonality
When did you personally grow up out of your "different = good" phase?

>>106524608
Mhm! Yep, sure...

>>106524599
You fill the void with something else if you catch my drift.

>>106524684
Never did, I have different pos for different purposes.
Right now I'm using the Q1 Pro to mow the lawn.

>>106524599
>EPZ
>filling a void
there is no void. they're simply oversaturating the market by existing and putting out crap. simple as.

It's so shiny teehee

>>106524507
I rarely see iems go over 30% cheaper with coins

I've had the Blessing 3's for a year or so, and I love the sound of them, but they hurt my antitragus or whatever the fuck after a while. What can i get that sounds similar for around the same price or slightly more, that is actually comfortable? If these didn't hurt they'd be endgame for me

>>106525175
I see and post screenshots of 60% listings, then you use sale coupons, local shipping voucher, store coupons, aliexpress prime, vouchers from games, refund money, etc

Is Final Audio still good for the price? How much would a Chinese equivalent cost (if Chinese even are as good)?

>>106525266
any pos + eq

>>106525541
>Is Final Audio still good for the price?
never were good despite their know-how

>>106501589
so is lilith, which is who i thought it was at first glance.

is the Tangzu Wan'er S.G 2 still the best entry iem

>>106502176
>>106521027
another flangezo here
I won

>>106526257
till you realize the insertion doing is scraping your ear canal skin off and the comfort is ass

>>106526275
with hexa it is indeed ass, but for the LM those tips are perfect

>>106526257
how are the techs on those shiny bitches?

>>106526257
nice to see more people try this

>>106526508
amazing for the price
note weight is awesome across the full spectrum, bass is textured, treble is quite airy and has a lot of fine micronuances, but my favorite aspect is how deep and three-dimensional is the soundstage, I mean not the widest but it's convincingly spherical and has actual verticality to it, which is rare in IEMs
the biggest issue of this set was excess shoutiness but this is where triple flanges come in and reduce the shout to fully tolerable levels without killing the upper treble

>>106525541
>Is Final Audio still good for the price?
no
and I'm saying this as a person who got into IEMs because of a Final Audio set

>>106526633
I like its bass. Impactful just how I like it, but no bloat.

>>106527579
bulletzo creaming his shorts

>>106523395
Well, considering FiiO’s TWS modules don’t even have contacts on them for charging, in contrast to some other western or even chink TWS Pos which sometimes have those exposed to the elements completely, AND YET, the FiiO UTWS5’s are only IPX4 rated whereas even chink pos like the earfun air pro 4+ are IPX5 rated, no.


If you splash your chink iem with water, it will almost certainly die if it gets moisture even close to the nozzle, the 0.78 pins or the vents if applicable. Gamer tip: have cheapos to use with TWS modules. As the moisture kills them over time, your 0$ pairs will probably die anyway, but your shiny Monarch MKIV’s back home are safe and sound from both rain and jamal asking you to “see dem aeepods” not knowing he is about to inadvertedly hit a jackpot he will happily trade unknowingly for 2 ounces of crack. Unless you also buy a gun to shoot him, but that is another story.

>>106527579
>fixed cable
i hope it's quarks-tier

>!!NEW!! Snowsky Tiny

Snowsky next dongle featuring a Conexant CX31993 ( A ) and Conexant CX31998 ( B ), enabling 32/384 DSD 256 decoding, UAC 1+2.0 support, APP+Web EQ and about 30mw(A)/60mw(B)@32 ohms output
Version A/Tiny A is equipped with a type c passthrough and a 3.5mm jack with mic support, Version B/Tiny B is equipped with a 3.5/4.4 jack.
The Tiny is available for the price of 129 yuan/18$ for both version.

>>106528854
>106528854
hard pass.

Any info on Tangzu Fudu II? That shit looks nice

>>106527579
cute
>fixed cable
eww
>>106527669
does it really count as a bullet IEM with this huge stem?

>>106524453
>Ok what's up with the whole "$0" thing? Can you actually get them free?
Yes, with coupons, coins and Express. You can get them for $2, $1 or even free sometimes.

>>106524554
>This is my fav $0 so far
Waste of coupons. The PR1 is shit.

>>106529926
By far the most distorting IEM I have, even BA pos isn't that bad. Considering he's using r2r this dogshit is exactly what he's looking for.

>>106529921
>coupons, coins and Express
Do you have to make purchases to get those?
How much time/effort does it take to get enough for a decent pos?

>>106530124
>Do you have to make purchases to get those?
>How much time/effort does it take to get enough for a decent pos?
Only if you buy Aliexpress Saver for 99 cents.
The rest is just collecting coupons, coins and offers.

would the Truthear Pure or the Hexa be a sizeable upgrade to the Tripowin Vivace?

>>106530345
hexa will be a downgrade
pure will be a sidegrade

>>106530607
Is there a reason the hexa and the Pure are shilled so much instead of the Vivace? It's kinda insane it would be just a sidegrade considering the prices.

>>106531707
Vivace is a cheap pos with cheap pos build, it's just tuned in a way I like. It's also 1DD so people who think drivers matter will automatically assume it's worse, and it's a collab so a little cringe.
Hexa is an old default rec for people who don't listen to music so it still gets spammed. I never liked it. Hola was the better Truthear IEM when Hexa was popular.
Pure is the new hotness, it's not as bad as Hexa and might be an improvement over the Vivace depending on what tuning you like.

>>106531801
I actually really like the tuning of the Vivace and the wide staging also feels great. The bass and sub-bass is fun without being overpowering while the mids are clear enough (as far as I can tell) and the highs could be a little more sparkly? Clearer? I feel they blend together when they shouldn't and I remember liking the highs on cheaper IEMs like the EDC Pro and how it felt warmer I guess?

I'm still new to the hobby and still buying cheap IEMs until I find a sound signature I really love, so far the Vivace has been my favorite by far.

Pic related, bought the Aria 1 and the First Zero years ago when they were new and never looked into more until recently when the right side of the aria stopped working.

(also what is a pag/pos)

what does pos mean? hihi :3

>>106532624
Producer of sounds.

>>106532624
piece of shit

Heard good things about Letshuoer S08. Are they really that good, worth the price bump vs. cheap-but-good models?

>>106532753
jesus, no
they're good for a planar, not in vacuum

>>106532753
>S08
I absolutely love their sound, but the fit is diabolically atrocious. It's way better to buy a better fitting, cheap iem, then EQ close to the s08.