Thread 106510845

since windows XP' source code was leaked, is anyone trying to make a modern version of it?

For why

No because Microsoft would DMCA the shit out of it

>>106510857
Upload it to Hyphanet. Can't do shit about it.

>>106510845 (OP)
It's a lot of work and even if you managed to do that, you can't publish it without getting sued into the ground.
What you can do instead is studying for projects like ReactOS.

>>106510871
Who the fuck would use it?

look at him go

>>106510880
If it lets you run Windows programs and especially games with 0 issues and no MS shit, actually a lot of people.

>>106510880
No idea, but if you took that uglyass gui and frankenpaste it into some troonix npc distro, zoomers would worship it.

I'll continue to use whatever works best on my P4 and that's Posready 2009, my daily driver.

>>106510883
You are delusional.

>>106510880
literally everyone who hates windows 11 but doesn't want to make the jump to linux or macOS

>>106510883
>>106510955
>use an old illegal OS with only a few devs uodating it to do all your important daily stuff
>with no drivers btw
you are deeply tech illiterate, underage, and retarded

>>106510883
Ignoring the legality, in order to achieve that, you'll need to take some source code from modern Windows, which hasn't been leaked. Without that, you'll just end up getting a Frankenstein OS which is basically like Windows XP + Wine. Good luck with that

>>106511010
You can fix stuff and update some components (and I'm all for that) but it'd still be XP.

>>106511024
>You can fix stuff and update some components
That's what Wine and ReactOS has been doing for the past 25 years or so. You're just going to have a perpetually unfinished OS that will only be worked on by Russians because nobody else wants to get into legal trouble for working on it

Run the original in a VM and live with it. No need for whatever you have in mind.

>>106510913
>>106511010
>what are hypotheticals
Emphasis on "IF"

>>106510883
>>106511055
It would still be Windows, an unstable piece of shit that will BSOD and eventually succumb to software rot forcing users to reinstall the OS

>>106511086
That never happened to me once I moved from 9x and the pre-SP versions of XP.

>>106510857
People release cracked AAA games under anonymous nicknames all the time. They get DMCA'd too. Do you think muh law is gonna stop them?
Why are you retards so limpwristed?

>>106510845 (OP)
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/subject/wxp/

>>106511038
ReactOS failed miserably because they never finished the XP stuff before they began working on the Vista+ slop.

>>106510845 (OP)
There's no point. You could just use modern Window or Linux and theme them into XP.

>>106510883
You can already do it using one core api on regular windows xp

>>106511168
The difference between that and maintaining an old version of a proprietary commercial OS still under copyright protection is that cracking games means you just make the game playable without DRM so that it can be played without purchasing a copy. Which is much easier to do than to actively develop and maintain an OS that is still copyrighted and you don't have permission to maintain and distribute your own forks of Windows XP. It's not realistic and feasible to do that and nobody wants to spend the time to do that. If you think these two are the same you are actually retarded

>>106510845 (OP)
there was some attempt to make the leaked code compile with some success but that was the most notable achievement after the leak. If even Microsoft doesn't want to bother with legacy shit anymore, then random /g/ users certainly won't.
The thing is the only viable use case for XP, aside from nostalgia, is compatibility with old apps. Changing the XP source code would be detrimental to backwards compatibility, because even fixing bugs could break some old random application that relied on the existence of these bugs (example: https://cookieplmonster.github.io/2025/04/23/gta-san-andreas-win11-24h2-bug/). And even if someone wants to use XP for nostalgia and doesn't want to use custom Linux DE themes they could just install Supremium or Mypal for modern browsing and that library that allows most modern Windows apps to run on XP I don't remember its name rn.

Because ReactOS exists and has so far stayed on the right side of Microsoft's watch but if it ever got popular Microsoft would EEE it.

>>106510955
Windows 11 is inevitable, Microsoft is a 4 trillion dollar company and has to keep 1.4 billion Windows users happy, it doesn't care about a few autists on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.

>>106511434
It's actually crazy how big windows is, when you consider that so few people can actually afford a desktop computer. In contrast Fedora Linux confirms they have around 1.2M users total, that's wild

>>106510871
>upload it to normal hosting
>dmca by microsoft
>upload it to pedonet
>noone downloads it

>>106510845 (OP)
No because the project is too complex to do it effectively. You need to track bug reports, you need different people willing to work on different subsystems, you need a way to get updates out, and you need a way to coordinate all of this without worrying about DMCA takedowns. No one with the skills for it is going to deal with this. The more hidden it is, the less likely you are going to get the developer numbers you need to do anything worthwhile.

The best you are gonna get is patching old vidya where the source leaked.
In that case you usually have a set list of things you need to do (fix modern platform bugs, linux port if you can be bothered), and you can do it yourself or with friends. Once you are done with what you need to do you can drop the new build somewhere and eventually it will end up on pcgamingwiki where people can get it. This has already happened a few times, usually under the name of "unofficial patch" or "updated game client", because it is much easier to pull off as an anon.

>>106511192
Wine has issues for the same reason. fixme fixme fixme. Try re-arrange the tabs on HxD, they broke that like 8 years ago.

>>106511491
If normies are stupid enough to fall for the glowie psyop against darknets, their loss.

>>106510845 (OP)
Nondev retards like you always ask for somebody to do gargantuan pointless tasks. If you're that autistic, why don't you do it yourself?

>>106510881
I do not remember this icon.Maybe because I always used Classic theme

>>106511599
This is true. I am also guilty of this. 99% of users are

>>106511651
I actually don't think its normal?

>>106510845 (OP)
there was a project here for like a year of people working on it but everyone got bored or something, i think there was a bunch of things missing from the leak that needed to be reimplmented

>>106510845 (OP)
No, because people are either too retarded or too afraid.

>>106511718
there was some schizo shitting up all the threads here, interest was already low but that killed it
looks like there's some new project trying to fix it up, but they're asking for donations to add ARM64 support, pretty much no chance for that lel

>>106510845 (OP)
No. That code is tainted. If you look at it you are not allowed to work in wine.

>>106510845 (OP)
Also that code isn't going to help much. What wine devs do is implement the same functions of Windows libraries but in a different way. The only way windows XP would help is to understand ambiguous specification, but you can also do that by testing what happens in games and applications. It's simply not very useful to have that source code.

>>106511779
whats the point in making it work on arm when none of the software would be compiled for it lol

>>106511491
More people need to use Hyphanet then.
Should be much more popular, especially in Europe where censorship is through the roof

>>106511749
which one are you?

>>106510845 (OP)
Best Windows (Windows 2000) leaked too, in 2003 if I remember, and yet WINE and ReactOS are useless.

>>106512024
Indifferent.

>>106512059
They have policies against touching that code even if it's just for learning from it. Useless projects anyways.

Also the leak was massive and there weren't all that many seeders.

Win7 is better.

>>106510871
how many days will this take? and then how many days to download? are you retarded ?

>>106511962
i2p is better for this

>>106510845 (OP)
link to sources?

im going to train LLM models on microsoft code then use it to build an OS i will sell for profit. they will have to sue me and prove in court that it is a violation of intellectual property law :)

>>106512316
No idea. The more people use it and the more hdd storage you give it, the faster it gets for everybody.

>>106512571
https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/ee25b981597634616eafce210df4d67bacf661ff/cool_stuff/ms-sources.txt

>>106510857
>Respect the DMCA!
>Hand rubbing intensifies

>>106511516
>>106511962
You need to understand that pedonet and similar projects will ultimately fall into irrelevance, because very few people will ever want to use it , therefore no strong communities will ever form there and you will have no content to download there. The whole mindset of "hurr we need no normies durr" is simply wrong, because 5 tech-illiterate vir/g/ins simply won't be able to do anything.

>>106512095
so? they can't prove you looked at it without also admitting they looked at it too.
>>106512059
also NT4 and 3.5 leaked

>>106510883
Those people are probably using Skulltrail's One-Core on XP

>>106511651
>>106511679
It's because OP's screenshot is from around beta 2/RC, not RTM. :p

>>106510845 (OP)
yes
https://alphalibrary.miraheze.org/wiki/OpenXP

>>106510845 (OP)
>since windows XP' source code was leaked, is anyone trying to make a modern version of it?
https://theopenxp.org

>>106510880
Me. XPSP5 was GOAT.

>>106515175
>XPSP5
SP3 was the last official service pack for the 32‑bit version of Windows XP, zoomer.

>>106510845 (OP)
>a modern version of it?
there are more modern versions of windows, retard

>>106512095
>Also the leak was massive
The actual WinXP/Win2K3 leaked source code is only 2.93 GB. The 40 GB torrent, that you are talking about, contained many gigabytes of useless Bill Gates conspiracy videos. Here is the magnet link for the original leaked source code:
>NOTREPACKED
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:1a4e5b67060ff2bc8fe2de36a6c265c77f392a0c
>>106515254
>there are more modern versions of windows
Modern versions of Windows suck ass.

>>106510845 (OP)
That's a great idea anon. Post a download link when you're done.

>>106515348
>contained many gigabytes of useless Bill Gates conspiracy videos.
Kek

Maintaining a modern OS sounds like an actual nightmare.

It's DOA with all the compatibility shit you gotta deal with now. Back in the day we had service packs and that was all you got for a few years, maybe even 5.

Guys, let go already...

>>106510845 (OP)
>since windows XP' source code was leaked, is anyone trying to make a modern version of it?
you couldn't even run it i don't even think it was the complete source code either

>>106516136
only a couple files were missing to complete an entire iso build, and you can just copy them from retail

>>106516078
no

>>106515613
tech illiterate incels sincerely believe jews magic is impeding winxp to usena RTX5090

>>106510880
Everyone who hates windblows 11 and we're never happy with windows 10.

>>106516858
>no programs
now what, idiot?

>>106516947
What? What slop are you talking about?

>>106513835
A large part of the problem is that you have to install it and edit config files to make it work properly. This might be solved if someone makes an app-ified version, sort of like what the Orbot phone app does for Tor, or integrates it into a browser so it's a simple on/off button to access it.

The other part of the problem is dumbasses like you making it out to be something just for pedos, especially right now with the growing censorship. It has a lot of potential as a way to share ideas and information that companies and governments don't want you to have, but instead you help the censors by driving people away from the tools they need.

>>106517020
Too many programs won't run on XP anymore. They gripe about missing exports in system DLLs, and you can't just put Windows 10 DLLs in the app folder because XP is missing some syscalls they use. Presumably someone could update the source to add the needed syscalls, but it would be significant work.

>>106517037
>The other part of the problem is dumbasses like you making it out to be something just for pedos, especially right now with the growing censorship. It has a lot of potential as a way to share ideas and information that companies and governments don't want you to have, but instead you help the censors by driving people away from the tools they need.
I got banned several times for "advertising" Hyphanet even though I only mentioned it in privacy-related threads where people were asking for help to circumvent censorship. Glowies will glow I guess.

>>106510845 (OP)
no but people have ported xp explorer.exe to 8.1 and newer

I just want windows 98 with support for multiple cores, more ram and modern web browsers.

>>106518038
That's Windows 7.

>>106518038
Windows 98 is a program running on top of a 16 bit operating system from 1980. Good luck.

>>106518248
Windows 98 runs on top of DOS about as much as Linux does if you've launched it using LOADLIN.COM. It only uses DOS as a bootloader stage, and only keeps any traces of it in RAM if you're using any 16 bit drivers loaded via CONFIG.SYS.

It has larger problems though, mainly to make it light enough to run acceptably on the minimum requirement 486. It does use a protected mode kernel and a separate address space for each process. But it maps all of kernel memory into each address space. Doing that is pretty common, but Win9x maps it as writable, which speeds things up because some kernel code can be run directly without a syscall and context switch. That also makes it so any program can read and overwrite whatever kernel data structures it wants though.

Worse, it maps kernel data structures at address zero. I'm sure this mildly optimizes some code somewhere because it doesn't have to load a base address. But it also means that if your program reads from a null pointer -- one of the most common bugs -- you never see an exception, it just successfully reads junk from the kernel and uses it. And if you write to a null pointer, you silently corrupt kernel memory. Then you probably later get an illegal action error box and your program gets killed when it accesses invalid addresses, but by then you've probably overwritten some stuff in the kernel. That's why the text in the illegal action box always suggests you save work and reboot rather than assuming the OS has caught, contained and killed the rogue program like in any other modern OS.

>>106518894
I never knew that ngl, always thought there was no real address spacing in 9x Windows and it was a very advanced program running on top of DOS. But that was based solely on what others told me and I never bothered looking into it myself.

>>106518894
>>106520986
Thats what public stock companies funded research gives you. Shitty programming.

>>106510880
Anybody who needs windows and is tired of the kike shit.
Spoiler: thats a shitload of people.

>>106510988
Cope harder anon. Tell people again about how nobody would use this os regularly.
Your shit covered hands are smearing into the keys you type with as we speak.

>>106510988
>illegal os
post nose

>>106510845 (OP)
Yeah microsoft made several modern versions of it

>>106510955
>2025
>literally everyone hates 11
>2018
>literally everyone hates 10
>2014
>literally everyone hates 8
>2009
>literally everyone hates vista (7 is vista with a large task bar)
>2002
>literally everyone hates xp (xp is only loved for nostalgia. forums from those times would praise 2000 and would tell people to stick to 98 for gaming)

>>106524106
It's not a kike conspiracy that nobody wants to provide free labor to a project that serves no real purpose other than violating copyright laws. You are naive and retarded. While such a thing could be achieved the hurdles that must be cleared in order to do so means money and opsec concerns will need to be met. Again why the fuck do you think anybody cares to do this? Because you want it? Then why don't you make it yourself?

>>106524253
Each version of windows is like descending into a deeper layer of hell. What you used to hate does not seem so bad anymore once subjected to horrors that were previously beyond imagination. I am pretty sure if you showed windows 11 to someone from the early 2000's they would scream in terror and claw their own eyes out. You need to be eased into such horrors.

>>106510845 (OP)
Did we learn anything useful from the WinXP source? I just imagine it would be more effort to fix XP than to make something new from scratchish.

>>106524349
anons in 2020 managed to get it to boot, but iirc the source was missing something required for logon and dunno if they managed to go around it

There's no use case. 90% of what XP can run you can do it with Wine. The last 10% is locked by TPM/Kernel level extensions that aren't available in the source leak cause they were written way after XP's heyday, so you 100% need modern Windows for them.

>>106524106
>you have to deny reality
post phychiatric evaluation

>>106524253
not really. with 11 we're at the hardware level spyware and that's where even most ardent windows supporters like me say good night

>>106520986
3.x and before ran all Windows programs in the same 16 bit segmented address space with an optional page file, but made a separate VDM address space for each DOS program (386 enhanced mode), or just ran all Windows programs in a single address space with no virtual memory or page mapping (standard mode). These versions also had an option to exit back to DOS without rebooting, and were more or less a glorified DOS shell. So that's probably what you were thinking of.

3.1 also had an optional Win32s subsystem you could install that could run a small number of 32 bit Windows 95 programs. It came with Freecell as a test program, so if your Windows 3.1 has Freecell, you have Win32s. Programs had it not use certain APIs like I think multithreading. It also created a single 32 bit address space that all 32 bit programs had to share. Unlike Win9x your exe might be loaded at any address, so it only worked with exes that were compiled with relocations included (or I think -fPIC so it doesn't need relocations).

>>106522349
Shitty programs and especially shitty drivers were the biggest causes of crashes. This is also why it runs so much better in a VM today. They wrote the VM virtual drivers better, and most of the programs you run in it are better written than what we had back then. And that's partly because they're developed using newer Windows versions that actually catch null pointer accesses instead of just letting them read or write garbage silently.

>>106524283
>nobody wants to provide free labor to a project that serves no real purpose other than violating copyright laws
I love how morons keep making this claim, from the comfort of their terabytes of stolen software and media.

>>106524283
>copyright laws
>money
>opsec concerns
whatever moshe, no os is illegal on stolen firmware

i tried to do it once, never really left the drawing board and in hindsight should've never existed
just use linux of if you really want a "modern windows xp" get reactos

>>106524788
I didn't do anything to create or develop the pirated materials I obtain and distribute. There is a place for hobby projects, like Star Wars 4k77 for example. But someone has to do it. It doesn't pay for itself. You can't just put it on fucking github and have people contribute to it. Even if they could why should they?

>>106524796
I don't give one single fuck about the copyright you dumb cocksucker. If you want to get sued by Microsoft go make your dream version of jeetdows and host it without taking steps to protect your privacy. I'll post on here about how sad it is that they ruined your life over it. That will make it all worth it right? A couple guys on the internet calling you based is all you need.

>>106527196
>You can't just put it on fucking github and have people contribute to it. Even if they could why should they?
do you know what linux is retard?

>>106527196
>#include <cope.h>
>#include <seethe.h>
>#include <niggerly-behavior.h>
>
>steal(THIS);
>pirate(THAT);
>parasite_off_of(TAXPAYERS);
>download(XP_SRC);
>if (i = dont_understand(XP_SRC))
> vomit("b-but ill get sued if i steal xp src");
>make_obvious(dont_understand(XP_SRC));
>if (i = FOUND_OUT)
> vomit("b-but winblows sux anyway");
>cope();
>seethe();
>dilate();
>ACK();
The main loop of every incompetent freetard.

>>106527208
Do you understand the license that Linux is released under? See also the BSD cuck license.

>>106527235
You can talk all the shit you want but XP is fucking dead you dumbass boomer. No source code leak is ever going to revive it you decrepit wrinkled old fuck. Unless you prove me wrong with your elite coding skills, which you won't because all you can do is screech on the internet, it stays the same. Anyone with sense is moving on. Office drones are stuck because of the vendor lock in. I helped migrate my place of employment to 11 already. I'm glad I never have to use that pajeet vibe coded garbage myself. The whole Redmond campus should just be nuked at this point.

>>106527235
>Uses the taxpayers as an excuse to kissing the corpo faggots in the arse
Is this a boomer thing or are you a corpo faggot employee still?

>>106527304
Wait until he finds out what the US government uses on all their systems. It's no surprise they're always getting hacked.

>>106527315
your os doesnt matter if you have a standard firewall.

>>106527324
Yeah and fucking a man in his asshole is totally safe if you use a condom right?

>>106527346
Im saying that the only times hacks happen is when someone willingly let someone in. Rarily does a "I hack you from the internet" works anymore except on naive people who do stupid shit. You can use Windows xp and still be fine today.

>>106510845 (OP)
Do not fucking care. Still using the original OS on bare metal. Comfy as fuck. Fuck JeetOS.

>>106527356
You should take more precautions than using a basic firewall if you're going to do it. There's no reason to do it anyway unless you are running some mission critical shit that only runs properly on older versions of Windows. Or just dicking around with hobby retro computing bullshit. The modern internet is barely okay on a modern machine with 8gb of ram and an i3. Forcing yourself to use dated crap, using whatever hacks you can to make it work is simply not practical for anybody who doesn't have weapons grade autism. I do have that and I don't want to use it because I remember how much of a piece of shit it was.

>>106527409
I have a Windows xp, a Win98, and a Win7 machine (my daily driver).

I've been using all three for over ten years. Either I'm the most lucky guy in the world or updooters like you are dumbasses.

>>106510845 (OP)
Probably not. Just because the code was leaked doesn't mean it's legal to use it, which means MS will lawyer assrape anyone who tries to do something like that.

>>106527661
Just like how every other company lawyers people who do other custom things. Oh wait, they cant do shit

>>106527878
Are you retarded? The people modding shit don't do it by using illegal access to the program's source code. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>106527955
This sort of argument might be convincing if UNIX weenies hadn't been stealing source code for over half-a-century at this point.

>>106524253
Unlike Mac, Linux, BSD or even niche/gimmicky OSes like Aros or TempleOS, nobody uses windows because they want. Nobody.
They use because they need, may it be work or gaming and the only reason to update windows is for hardware/driver/API support.
For the actual user experience, each new version is a net downgrade, as for each new interesting feature, they add five new shitty ones.
To this day the best windows was windows95 because it actually innovated and was interesting at the time, but its success ruined microsoft.

>>106528624
>nobody uses it because they want to
>they use it because a computer that doesnt do anything useful
>is by very definition useless
Stop the presses

>>106528638
Windows is useless.
People are just trapped with it due to bad life decisions in the 90s.

>>106528717
>i-if oems just preinstalled linux...
We tried the preinstall experiment multiple times in the mid- to late-2000s. It went as well as you'd expect. 50% return rates weren't uncommon.
Then Windows 7 arrived, and genocided the OEM Linux market. It's one of those "look back and laugh" moments in tech history.

>>106528717
There's nothing more entertaining than some chimp who installed Troonix because it was the only web browser HAL that ran on his dumpster-dived C2D calling Windows "useless."

>>106524253
>>106528801
Oh look it's the troon freak of nature pajeet shill that tries to cause confusion and prevent people from using an OS other than Windows by saying it's the only non leftist, gay route even though Microsoft is filled to the brim with trannies and poojeets.

Good going goy here's some shekels.

>>106529343
>this projection
It's sad and pathetic really. But aren't all freetards?
Literal troon, faggot and schizo worshippers. Fat pieces of shit, too. Even Reddit can't stand your projectile diarrhea - hence why you (along with your spacing) were cast out.

>>106529417
Microsoft merch guys:
>hey, should we stock 3XL shirts?
>nah, i think 2XL will be enough
Linux merch guys:
>hey, should we stock 3XL shirts?
>...you mean as the smallest size we carry, right?

>>106511366
So you're scared, got it.

>>106529600
There's actually a meme of this doing the rounds, though I haven't seen it recently.
Shows in graphic detail how UNIX weenies (later freetards) ballooned over the years.

>>106530122
No, they're not. They'll rip off literally anything else without mercy or remorse - absolutely nigger-tier.
But the source code that it took them a fucking week to find the compile-winxp.bat file? That's where they draw the line, alternating between "n-nooo dats illegal" and "dun wan dat shit" depending on what argument they want to win.
It's all so clear and obvious when you think about it - remember, ReactOS is what you get when you let freetards try to write Windows, imagine how much they'd cock-up the real thing, while embarrassing themselves in the process?
If there's one thing autistic freetards hate, it's being exposed as the 70 IQ morons they are.

>>106510845 (OP)
>that username
why do you fuckers keep posting this anglo shit TRANNY's bootleg of XP?

>>106511651
>>106514680
It's actually SP3 but it identifies rcthem/betaself, bigot chud!
It was groomed by this person

>>106530195
thanks for the laugh.
captcha:PH0NG

>>106530172
You must think of the the multi-billion dollar corporation and how that may affect them :_(.

>>106511651
Contrary to popular belief, it was actually in the final shell32.dll. But MS added a "shrunken Run dialog" icon for the final code, and used that for the Start menu instead.
But these were the days when the Shell Icons key in the registry still working, so you could substitute them to your heart's content. This is why icon packs could be so much more expansive before Vista.

>>106530217
>you must think...
If only you'd take your own advice.

>>106530234
>nooo don't make fun of my multi-billion dollar corporation they're all I've got

>>106530242
>no ill shit myself instead
Suit yourself.