Thread 106520380

Technology is rapidly regressing.
Windows 10 took away the analog clock.
Windows 11 took away the second. There is no built in way in Windows 11 to see the second. It's not in the start menu. It's not in the clock app. It's not in the notification area. It's not in the calender that opens form the notification are when you click on the clock. You have to install a 3rd party app or open a webpage to see the second.

Just divide the minute saar

>>106520380 (OP)
>Noo things need to be complicated for no reason

>>106520380 (OP)
While I am a great fan of analogue clocks, and they make a great filter for two-digit IQs, the simple fact is that computers exist to make our lives easier.
This is part of the reason Linux is such a failure: it's needlessly complicated for no reason other than allowing autistics who are entirely dependent on the government to exist feel superior.

Nooo it's absolutely IMPERATIVE that I know the exact second of the day

grow up and stop living your life according to the clock

>>106520420
>Linux is such a failure: it's needlessly complicated
This is a common misconception. On the contrary, Linux is so simple that it doesn't even have a graphical interface. You just type the commands as a literal retard.

>>106520380 (OP)
>Windows 11 added an option to display the second right on the taskbar
FIFY

>>106520448
Just because your average Linux user is a literal retard doesn't mean it isn't needlessly complicated. Editing dotfiles to configure your mouse? Every second update kills your wireless? Nodriverz? Playing a game means downloading and installing weird Proton configurations? No way man.

>>106520380 (OP)
The last dude who worked on the clock left in 2018 so they contracted jeets to rewrite it from scratch

>>106520473
I've always wondered what fucked up setups people are using to have so many issues. For me Linux has just worked out of the box without issues with any hardware I've thrown at it. Genuinely requires less setup to get running than Windows.

>>106520533
>sky is green with little yellow polka dots
>objects fall up
>epstein did kill himself
Good for you, anon.

>>106520533
Nta but I'm using Fedora KDE which is a fairly exoteric setup and I have to run a few dozen terminal commands after a fresh install to get it running properly, and updates occasionally break my wifi or audio.

>>106520591
I just find it interesting how fucked up a lot of peoples setups seem to be to run into so many hardware issues. I understand if some faggot youtuber runs into issues with his obscure one-of-a-kind incredibly specialized game capture setup or whatever, but what are people using to make things break so much?

>>106520380 (OP)
There will never ever be another OS like Windows 7
linux is good for servers and programming but doesn't come close otherwise

>>106520380 (OP)
build an electron clock app saar

>>106520533
I've always wondered if freetards actually think we believe this shit.
Everyone on /g/ has tried Linux by now, and most ran back to Windows. A hell of a lot of tinkerers have tried Linux by now, and the VASTEST MAJORITY ran back to Windows.
You know why this is the pattern, decade after decade.

>>106520678
Linux is slowly becoming more popular not because it's improving (outside of gaming), but because Windows gets worse with every update

>>106520380 (OP)
>Windows 10 took away the analog clock.
Zoomers can't read them anyways.

>>106520448
on xfce I can add analog or digital clock. With date or without PMAM or 24, Hell I can even have 2 clocks side by side.
I have 3 monitors, so I even have a volume button on each taskbar

>>106520678
I suppose it's scary to think how someone as stupid as me can run it without issues, but it still manages to filter such a massive part of the population. Like how fucked is the world when even my retarded ass is more tech literate than the vast majority of people?

>>106520729
You don't understand how tech illiterate the average person is.
I didn't know anything about troonix but a few days of research was more than enough for me to switch and have no problems after.
Most people switching don't know the difference between a de and a distro, how debian/stable is different from arch or fedora, some basic things you might want to do after a fresh install, etc.
They're basically used to microsoft doing everything for them and aren't used to being in control of their computer, that's why linux will never work for them, unless you fundamentally change a lot of things about it, but linux users don't want that.

>>106520692
No, Linux is becoming more popular because it's the platform of choice for AI and bots. When the next AI winter arrives, Statcounter will drop back to 1%.
You can screenshot this.

>>106520692
>>106520729
>>106520755
>autistics who are entirely dependent on the government to exist feeling superior

>>106520437
I'm a stock trader. It is absolutely imperative that I know the exact time around when certain economic figures are released.
The fact that they simply removed this option is beyond insane.

>>106520380 (OP)
It's likely because rendering the clock in the webshit UI framework of theirs visibily hurts performance.

>>106520380 (OP)
>There is no built in way in Windows 11 to see the second.
Are you stupid? Have you looked in the fucking menu?

>>106520782
Wait, people actually used the built in Windows clock for critically sensitive time-keeping? That's insane.

>>106520777
wasted digits
the gov could stop existing tomorrow and it wouldn't bother me desu, I'm not black.
The current country I'm working in doesn't even have gibs.

Not an issue with my MacBook Air using macOS 26.

>>106520797
Why?

>>106520693
>Zoomers can't read them anyways.
zoomers cant even use computers, so why take away the seconds from people who can use them?

>>106520614
never happened to me. maybe stop being brown

>>106520380 (OP)
Use case for seconds?

>>106521270
Probably because you only use your computer for web browsing.

>>106520380 (OP)
Works here.

>Windows 11 took away the second. There is no built in way in Windows 11 to see the second. It's not in the start menu. It's not in the clock app. It's not in the notification area. It's not in the calender that opens form the notification are when you click on the clock. You have to install a 3rd party app or open a webpage to see the second.

They added the ability to put seconds in a patch a few months IIRC. My pic is literally from the Settings menu. They warn you it uses more power though, which is perhaps a tacit admission of jeet code

>>106520437
>Nooo it's absolutely IMPERATIVE that I know the exact second of the day
yes

>>106520462
>tries to guilt you not to enable it and hides it behind a confusing collapsible entry
fucking M$.
at least they added it.

>>106520533
I'd probably say the only real issues in 2025 is AMD and NVIDIA stability.
and if Intel goes under, I have a fear more phone shit hardware will find its way into desktops without working FOSS drivers. Intel, for better or worse generally makes sure their hardware works on Linux.

>>106521479
>They warn you it uses more power though
kek how?
https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-says-this-windows-11-taskbar-setting-can-worsen-your-battery-life-is-it-true/

looks like literal margin of error tier.

>>106521573
might have a worse effect on different tablet/laptop models

>>106521627
Or M$ never bothered to measure their retarded claims because they're incompetent. this is the most likely IMO.

>>106520405
>CLOCKS ARE COMPLICATED
>SECONDS ARE COMPLICATED

>>106520405
>analogue clock and seconds are too complicated
Holy mutt.

>>106520380 (OP)
>windows changed muh clock, technology is collapsing!
Maybe people will take you a bit more seriously if you stop being an obese mangirl drama queen for 5 minutes.

>>106520380 (OP)
unironically works on my machine (24H2 IoT LTSC)

>>106520380 (OP)
analog clocks are gone cause the average American can't read them

>>106521814
how much more power does it use to show the seconds wtf
si this true

>>106520380 (OP)
I've been using Tclock since 2003.
https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock
Still works perfectly on Windows 11, and I even compiled my own version of it to include date ordinals using VS2022. There is nothing wrong with using turd party programs on Windows.

>>106521479
>uses more power
LMAOOOOOO
>which is perhaps a tacit admission of jeet code
Windows 11 itself is a tacit admission of jeetcode

>>106520380 (OP)
its because zoomers cant read boomer clocks. deadass fr no cap

soon enough you will miss boomers like you won't believe. you will regret everything bad you said about them.

your clocks will be gone,

file managers will all manage one giant folder and each file will have tags.

keyboards will be set to emoji layout by default.

welcome to the brave new world.

It's the same deal on android. Regaridng the seconds thing. No seconds in your status bar for you anymore. If you want seconds you have to open your clock app

>>106521573
>>106521627

it seriously chews up battery. i just have a casio watch taped to my laptop, i get the seconds for 2-3 years that way

>>106522750
my mind was blown when i saw that the android clock icon has a moving second hand
at least on lineage 22

>>106520533
This
I've had way more issues with windows than i ever had with Linux

>>106522794
Lineage is okay, they let you see seconds on the status bar. I have lineage running on my tablet and stock android on my phone. So that's how I'm aware of the difference.

>>106521494
This is their entire settings though. It's more complex than the settings menu of KDE and GNOME on Linux now. Go ahead and try to find the setting they really don't want you to find to convert your online account to an offline account (in case you accidentally signed into your Microsoft account because you didn't open the command prompt at install time to bypass this). I'll wait.

>>106522021
Theoretically your CPU could enter a deep sleep state and only be woken up to update the hour/minute on the fucking clock instead of having to do that every second.
In reality, this is BS, I highly doubt Windows is that well optimised.

>>106522848
>Go ahead and try to find the setting they really don't want you to find to convert your online account to an offline account (in case you accidentally signed into your Microsoft account because you didn't open the command prompt at install time to bypass this). I'll wait.
didn't know anyone bothered joining their machine to M$'s shitty services.
sorry, can't help finding it. I only use Windows in a VM for dev testing as well because I'm not a cuck.

funny that Windows gaslights its users and humiliates them endlessly though.

>>106522857
>disables cpu throttling
>keeps cpu at max frequency at all times for superior readiness to compute
>never runs on battery

>>106522857
given the difference in "max brightness idle" testing conditions is basically less than 2% difference, you're probably right.

>>106520782
no you are not, zoomer. let me fill you in on something. not one single person on this earth is a stock trader. it is pure jewish hollywood fiction.

>>106520405
Amazing how Vista still looks more elegant and futuristic than everything after Windows 8, which looks like a cobbled together mess some deviantart kid would make for what Windows 9 might look like or something. Total lack of consistency.
>>106520405
IT'S A CLOCK AND A CALENDAR JUST LIKE THE ONES IN REAL LIFE, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!

>>106520678
windows is nothing more than an xbox os to me. the single usecase is gaymes. it's called motherfucking WINDOWS but you cannot make the WINDOWS behave the way you want, you MUST follow the microjeet alt tab workflow. for anything actually productive, its going to be on linux

>>106521479
This feature that is practical to have available once in a blue moon will continue to constantly drain your battery slightly.
If only we could figure out some way to only show the seconds when you need them, perhaps by clicking on something.

>>106521124
Jesus Christ today I had to explain to a 12 year old how the right mouse button worked. Then I had to go and explain to another kid that wikipedia isn't a chatbot and that you actually have to read through the article to find the information you want. This is on top of the whole class of 12-13 year olds who can't make a new folder and place a word document in it. Didn't their parents show them how to crack their downloaded Age of Empires 1 or something yfc

>>106522464
>T-Clock
Is that the default font color for the temperature, clock, and date display? Which program's icon is between the one for Windows Security and the temperature?

>>106520380 (OP)
analog clocks are too complicated for the average internet user today
please understand

>>106523306
The weather is Tray Weather, and separate from Tclock; can't seem to get the font to match so I gave up. Happycat is a compiled autohotkey script.

>>106523249
>Didn't their parents show them how to crack their downloaded Age of Empires 1 or something yfc
you overestimate the amount of millennials that knew how to do this
or gen x or whatever the parents of 12 year olds are now

>>106523423
>The weather is Tray Weather, and separate from T-Clock
I didn't realize the font color for Tray Weather was different than the font color for T-Clock until zooming in.
>can't seem to get the font to match
Did you choose the font color for T-Clock? If so, do you have a screencap of your IDE (or whatever you use for coding)? I'm curious what color scheme you use for syntax highlighting.

>>106523554
Ah, okay have a picture.

>>106521494
>be this wrong
>STILL hiss and spit about "ebil M$" because its "hidden" in some way
>yet having to edit dotfiles so your bluetooth works is a-ok
How do freetards breathe 50 bars of hyper copium like this and not die
Oh wait I know

>>106523578
What's the color code for the shade of blue (for T-Clock's taskbar font) here (>>106522464)? Do you have a screencap of your IDE showing sample code (assuming you have something you can show publicly)?

>>106523629
Why is the arctic so low? There's got to be at least one computer in a research station somewhere running Linux. Probably more than one.

>>106523578
You can use any hexadecimal/rgb color you wish. As for the Tray Weather, it is the same color, but I can't seem to match the weight of the Tclock text. It matches in the settings editor, but not on the taskbar, so I just said fuck it.

>>106523657
The github link I posted earlier should have everything you want to look at except the date ordinal logic I added.

>>106523658
>Why is the arctic so low?
>% of the world
It isn't populous enough to register, I am sure though it is about 50% GNU+Linux, 50% Windows, and 50% Macintosh.

>>106523662
>#4ca6e6
Do you resonate with the color blue? If so, do you recall having been in GATE (or a similar program)?

>>106523789
>Do you resonate with the color blue?
I don't know what that means. Do I like the color blue? Sure, why not?
I also like brown, gray/grey, green, orange, red, yellow,purple, and sometimes hotpink.
I do not recall participating in a program called GATE.

>>106523789
FUCK off schizo

>>106520462
It's ok if jeets do it

>>106520797
Windows clock used to have a function to re-synch against time servers and thus be very accurate.

>>106523789
>meme magic
Funny how that dissolved and disappeared the second the 2016 election concluded and all the people pushing it instantly switched to shilling the tradcath larpstyle.

>>106520437
you posted a very brown brained comment to be honest with you pardner

>>106524591
>uses more power
Huh?

>>106525049
probably the UI is only redrawn every minute normally and not every second

>>106525057
do I need AI fake frame raytracing n sheeit to render an extra two numbers?

>>106520448
If you're actually that demented to believe that typing commands in the terminal is for retards and opening a slow bloated menu vibe coded by jeets in javascript is divine intellect then you should be deported back to mexico where you came from because you're brown as shit and maybe locked inside a padded cell in a mental institution

>>106521479
>uses more power
>on computers with an RTC

>>106520533
Maybe because your computer is a Reddit terminal.
Windows demands higher-quality hardware than some crappy kernel for free-from-your ISP shitmodems.

>>106520533
I know right? Qubes OS has been running like a dream for me since I started using it as my primary desktop OS on my Thinkpads a few years back! I will never go back to traditional Linux, or worse Windows, ever again!

>>106520678
>the VASTEST MAJORITY ran back to Windows
lol filtered

>>106527954
>Windows demands higher-quality hardware
Anon, that's not the flex you imagine it to be. xD

>>106520420
zoomers can't read analog clocks anon...

>analog clock
use case?

>>106528406
Yes it is. You would realise this if you weren't so poor and pathetic.
There's a reason Windows goes on multi-million dollar MRI machines, and Linux goes into IoT lightbulbs.

>>106520420
Analog clocks make my life easier, I have a bunch around my house.

They're both more readable and less distracting, so it's a win/win.

>>106528519
>There's a reason Windows goes on multi-million dollar MRI machines, and Linux goes into IoT lightbulbs.

I can guarantee you the actual software driving the MRI is not running Windows...

>>106528543
You can cope if you wish, anon. But here in the real world, everything above the $50 chinkshit ghetto runs Windows.

>>106523629
I just open the blueman app for bluetooth on linux it works fine :|

>>106528594
Sure anon.

>>106529193
How is it Linux's fault some retard broke his bluetooth configuration? It works on my machine.

>>106520533
Same. It literally just werkz. Last time I tried to use windows it literally deleted my wireless drivers and I had to do some weird stuff to get them back.

>>106520380 (OP)
>Windows 11 took away the second.
Are Windows 11 users retarded? Why are they not rioting over such a basic feature missing?

>>106530134
Probably because, like most of the stupid shit in what passes for a "brain" of yours, it's not true: >>106524546

>>106529193
Imagine a normal fag getting an error about D-Bus, and then how confused they'd be after looking it up.

Lintroons just fundamentally do not get it. They don't understand how normal people function because they have no taste. They're comfortable with this for no reason other than it's familiar. This is like a jeet bathing in shit sitting smug because his betters cannot understand why he does it.

>>106521121
because they removed the second.

>>106522708
>soon enough you'll miss boomers
zoomers at least can still adopt and learn, boomers can only learn the wonders of dementia and of forgetting how to wiled a spoon without taking away their own eyes.

>>106530322
>wiled a spoon
WHAT!?

>>106530322
>wield

>>106530335
It's kinda like "wield" when you didn't pay attention during English class, preferring to play with your toy telephone, goof off, pretend to be offended by random shit, and snorting Adderall instead.

>>106530347
oh. that makes sense now. i was picturing somebody doing the "there is no spoon" trick and like the spoon shoots into their eye somehow.

>>106520380 (OP)
Zoomers can't read analog clocks.

>>106520729
>sudo apt install ...
>sudo: command not found
>wtf
>sudo apt install sudo
>sudo: command not found
>su root
>apt install sudo
>exit
>sudo apt install ...
>This user is not in the sudoers file. This incident has been reported to the administrator.
>su root
>adduser winchad sudo
>adduser: command not found
>apt install adduser
>adduser winchad sudo
>exit
Linux is just a pain and i've been using it for three years already

>>106520729
>sudo apt install ...
>sudo: command not found
>wtf
>sudo apt install sudo
>sudo: command not found
>su root
>apt install sudo
>exit
>sudo apt install ...
>This user is not in the sudoers file. This incident has been reported to the administrator.
>su root
>adduser winchad sudo
>adduser: command not found
>apt install adduser
>adduser winchad sudo
>adduser: command not found
>wat.jpg
>(frantic googling)
>sudo adduser winchad sudo
>exit
Linux is just a pain and i've been using it for three years already

>>106520420
>While I am a great fan of analogue clocks, and they make a great filter for two-digit IQs, the simple fact is that computers exist to make our lives easier.
>This is part of the reason Linux is such a failure: it's needlessly complicated for no reason other than allowing autistics who are entirely dependent on the government to exist feel superior.
I like how the corpocuck doesn't waste a second to shit on freedom.

>>106530665
I never encounter an analog clock

>>106530828
you're clearly stupid. i use troonix for way less, and know the tool called "Google"

also, you can add your local user to the sudo group, but the preferable method is to edit the sudoers file, using visudo, so if you mess up you don't nuke your filesystem:

>login as root (su root or su -l)
>visudo
>if it's the first time, it will prompt for choosing a terminal text editor, if you know vim it's fine, but if you don't, use nano
>add line "winchad ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" at the end
>if nano, CTRL+S, then CTRL+X
>exit root by typing exit

it's that easy.

Microsoft is open sourcing the Windows 11 UI. You soon will be able to wade through an ocean of poo and LLM code to fix things yourself.

>>106530828
At any point during all this did you attempt to remove your ignorance by learning the proper way or did you get by these three years just bumbling around int he dark because asking for help or searching for knowledge is _beneath_ you.

>>106520380 (OP)
>Windows 11 took away the second

yet another reason not to updoot lmao

>>106531599
At no point in this discussion has that ever been true.

>>106520380 (OP)
Meanwhile on Linux you can easily configure the clock in every way imaginable. Why do people even still bother with Windows?

>>106522750
Xperias as of a few years ago (I don't use them anymore) didn't even show seconds anywhere in the clock app kek

>>106520405
a clock is too complicate for you?

>>106531679
Because most people don't know how to install or don't want to use a different OS

>>106531679
That same is true for Windows.