Thread 106562267

What’s objectively the weakest set of computer hardware one can browse 4chan on?

>>106562267 (OP)
why can't we have laptops like that anymore?

>>106562277
Checked and keked.

>>106562267 (OP)
Pentium 4 with 512 MB RAM running GNU/Linux.

>>106562327
This is about right.

>>106562287
apple

>>106562720
Elaborate.

>>106562738
they start providing less features, options, ports, repairability, etc to their hardware whilst pumping the prices higher.
other corporations think they're retarded and await the impending shitstorm that will hit apple.
turns out consumers are the ones who are retarded for actually throwing their money at apple.
other corpos watch in awe as a company that does less gets paid more so they decide to follow suit.
long story short, you have only 2 type C ports and maybe a 3mm jack on your otherwise plain laptop.
blame apple and their fans.

>>106562277
>Look up the post on Desuarchive
>Search for the image hash
>Find exact same comment that predates this one but didn't get near as many (you)s and wasn't screencapped

What explains this phenomenon

>>106562267 (OP)
anything that has pentium 4, 2 gb of ram and like 20gb of storage or so. Thats like the bare minimum to run any somewhat up to doot web browser because most of them that actually work require sse2. perhabs with some tinkertrooning you could get away with something like P3 but its going to be a losing battle.

>>106562758
I honestly don't mind the lack of ports. It was a problem with the original Macbook Air but since we have fully featured USB-C docks now it's much more convenient.
I just wish laptops were still sturdy and repairable.

>>106562267 (OP)
A Macbook

>>106562267 (OP)
Werks on my 3ds

>>106562830
not xhim but most of them are unreliable as fuck, unless you pay a little fortune for them. Yet another way to force us to pay more for the same thing.

>>106562844
Soul

>>106562844
Kneeling.

It all depends on having a browser new enough to pass the cloudflare check. Before the cloudflare enshittification you could access 4chan on Windows 98 with kernelex.

>>106562758
this is bullshit and mostly just the farts that apple cultists have huffed (and also just silent apple marketing probably)

most consumer laptops were always seen as complete garbage before macbook air too - latitudes were seen as made by a completely different company compared to inspirons from dell, for example
same goes for hp elitebooks/pavilions and lenovo whatevers/thinkpads:

they were also hard to actually service, disassembly required a gorillion screws, a few dozen plastic tabs to be carefully wiggled out from the keyboards or you broke the cover for it or whatever,

and the glory hole mechanisms meant that replacing some things like cmos, which is super simple nowadays, was a monumental task requiring complete dissassembly on even pre 2015 elitebooks for example.

besides, macbooks arent nearly as much of a money maker for apple (only 10% revenue iirc), neither are consumer laptops for other oems (same as apple): the real dough is in the business world, where there is basically no apple excluding maybe audio production, sketch (design program that microsoft designers allegedly used to design windows 11 kek), and portable adobe workstations or something.

>>106562267 (OP)
you could "browse" it on a microcontroller, but posting would require something that could get past the cloudflare check, probably a 256mb-512mb RAM SBC or something.
If you built/wrote some custom browser you could probably do it with something even weaker, and if you count being able to VPN into a stronger device you could also post from an esp32 or such.

>>106563036
I still remember 4chan with no captcha and working on my Nokia phone kek

>>106562267 (OP)
all good on the wiiu

>>106562327
you can push it to 256M ram (with a bit of zram/swap), but i cant immediately think of a browser able to handle cloudflare that doesn't need sse2+ (so pentium4+)

fun extra question, what's the slowest you've posted on? for me that'd be a 486sx25 laptop with 24M of ram. can't do it now though, that was ages ago before even captcha was implemented

>>106562267 (OP)
You can browse it using retrozilla on a pentium 2 but can't post anything

>>106562327
My 1GB Raspberry Pi 4 can't even resolve CloudFlare captchas; only my 4GB model can. I doubt 512 MB of RAM is enough.

stop with the nostalgia old troons your eyes have lost their glimmer, you will nvr be young again.

>>106563730
Just curious, which OS and which browser?

>>106563949
Raspbian, and it makes no difference which browser because I've tried Firefox, Pale Moon, Midori, Chromium, etc

>>106563966
That's crazy, Cloudflare really does need to be stopped. I was using an Alcatel phone a while back with only 2GBs of ram and it had a lot of trouble with captcha as well.

Got a rather potato laptop that I daily drive with a deficient Celeron, 2GB of RAM and 32GB of storage.

I live in a terminal/Emacs most of the time so I mostly use Lynx or Eww to browse the web. 4chan didn't really work because of JS requirements. Most graphical web browsers are out of the question too becuase the requirements are high. Just waiting for CDN verification alone is painful.

So yeah, some hardware are just too old and too low-powered to run even 4chan now.

>>106562277
Based

"browse" and "post" are a critical difference. you can "browse" 4chan on damn near anything, since all you'd need is a network adapter, a TCP/IP stack, and something to read html or json. posting on 4chan requires much newer hardware, and by much newer i mean about a quarter of a century ago or newer

what the heck did this get deleted for

anyways attempt 2

>>106562758
this is bullshit and mostly just the farts that apple cultists have huffed (and also just silent apple marketing probably)

most consumer laptops were always seen as complete garbage before macbook air too - latitudes were seen as made by a completely different company compared to inspirons from dell, for example
same goes for hp elitebooks/pavilions and lenovo whatevers/thinkpads:

they were also hard to actually service, disassembly required a gorillion screws, a few dozen plastic tabs to be carefully wiggled out from the keyboards or you broke the cover for it or whatever,

and the glory hole mechanisms meant that replacing some things like cmos, which is super simple nowadays, was a monumental task requiring complete dissassembly on even pre 2015 elitebooks for example.

besides, macbooks arent nearly as much of a money maker for apple (only 10% revenue iirc), neither are consumer laptops for other oems (same as apple): the real dough is in the business world, where there is basically no apple excluding maybe audio production, sketch (design program that microsoft designers allegedly used to design windows 11 kek), and portable adobe workstations or something.

>>106562267 (OP)
Android 4 with an older version of Bromite still passed as of March 2025 (no idea about now). My main rig is a Posready 2009 running on top of a 3.8ghz P4 and there's nothing I've thrown at it that refused to work.

>>106564742
Which browser did you use to post this?

>>106565613
I'm currently using my Android phone because I wasn't at the front of my computer atm.

>>106563802
Anon, you will be old yourself one day. Yoy might even shitpost on a techforum wondering why android on chromebooks is still shit in 2037.

>>106563802
Why the hell are you so bitter, & that too on /g/, when you've the entire/pol/, /int/ etc for yourself.

>>106562287
Japan still sells new laptops like that. make a trip to Tokyo clutching money.

>>106563346
If you use Windows XP there are builds of NewMoon which work on IA32 processors. The question is whether or not the captcha will time out before the processor can solve it.

>>106563730
I can solve Cloudflare captchas on my 2GB RAM P4 machine.

>>106564742
You may have better luck with an old version of Windows on that machine. There are more low end and legacy browsers for it.

>>106562844
lol

>>106565603
>My main rig is a Posready 2009 running on top of a 3.8ghz P4
Hell yeah brother. Can I get pics? Specs? What do you do with yours?

>>106566090
This doesn't show at all how powerful or weak the hardware is. That could be running in a VM on an i9 system for all I know.

>>106566121
Ok, now reply to this thread on that machine.

>>106562287
Workstation laptops are probably the closest thing profile-wise. But the reason is that it's not necessary to have that bulk since you don't need to have a CD drive, modem, and PCMCIA card slots, and hinge designs have improved to where you don't need the big central locking latch button. Modern designs tend to be more drop survivable. If you dropped that Dell out of a bag onto it's corner by accident, the corners are going to be splintered, the screen is going to be cracked and unusable, the hinges are going to be bent, and the CD drive no longer fits properly. Drop a modern Macbook the same way and you might only get upset that the scuff will affect its resale value.

You don't want Dell touchpads from that era, they were jumpy as shit.

>>106562267 (OP)
That Dell laptop was shit even in 2008. I remember, I used one.

>>106566225
It's funny how Apple makes highly durable devices most of the time (cough cough iPhone 6 cough cough), then proceeds to put an asshole OS on them.

>>106566085
3.8ghz P4 + 4gb RAM (XP runs on 128mb) + GeForce FX5900 Ultra (last card with paletted textures support) + CMI8738 audio (native OPL support) + 21 inch flatscreen ViewSonic CRT + Posready 2009 with infinite half-open connections and re-enabled raw socket support.

I do literally everything on it.

>>106562844
Based. Very based.

>>106566085
Please share that great wallpaper, anon. Which battleship is that?
https://files.catbox.moe/3j9qzn.jpg

>>106566108
>>106566149
Please be more polite, anon.

>>106566043
I was thinking of putting XP or 7 on it but Debian is too good to give up.

>>106566385
You could always dual boot.

>>106566360
Here's the source image. Its a screenshot taken from one of the collaboration videos the Battleship New Jersey Youtube Channel did with the Battleship Texas Youtube Channel. The picture itself is of the A turret on the battleship Texas.

Which ship is that in your picture?

>>106566304
Badass. All I've got is an old Dell Dimension with a 3 GHz Pentium 4 HT Northwood, 2 GB DDR 400 RAM, a GeForce 8400 GS PCI 256 MB, XP Home Edition + SP4, and a 19" Dell CRT that doesn't match the PC.

> with infinite half-open connections and re-enabled raw socket support.
QRD on this?

>>106566372
Would you please post a screenshot of you posting in this thread from that machine.

>>106566447
IJN Yamato.
May I give you a YouTube channel recommendation?

>>106566478
http://www.lvllord.de/?lang=en&url=4226patch/faq

https://www.interact-sw.co.uk/iangblog/2004/08/12/norawsockets

>>106566535
Sure.

>computer hardware
>anons posting everything but computers

>>106566550
https://youtube.com/@unauthorizedhistorypacificwar

>>106563730
>512 MB of RAM
With desktop environment it's impossible but orange pi zero 512mb can run full chrome/firefox with x redirection. Ofc more as proof of concept since it's super slow.
Have some noname chink laptop from trash, quad core celeron with 2gb ram running some chink version of win10. Browsing on that is not only possible but feels almost normal especially for light sites like 4ch.
>>106562821
Tried getting any kind of modern browser going on pentium pro with 1gb ram and it was impossible. Tried running newest versions of firefox and chrome for that cpu and those kinda worked but very slowly. Interestingly original internet explorer can kinda render some pages with lots of errors but it's reasonably snappy. Idk why chrome and firefox are so incredibly slow on old hardware.

>>106562819
rule 21 of the interwebs

>>106567755
>Pentium Pro
I didn't know those supported 1GB of address space.

>Firefox
>Chrome
How'd you get either of those running on a CPU with nothing more than an MMX instruction set? I don't think Chrome has ever existed without at least an SSE2 requirement.

Anyways, I would use something like Dillo, Kmeleon, or Classilla for something that old. Palemoon forks are at least theoretically possible on that, since some of those like NewMoon compile for IA32, but I can't imagine it would be pleasant.

>>106562267 (OP)
i used to rock that exact computer lol
dell d610
1gb ram
30gb hard drive
pentum... d or m

If it's just browsing you can go very low end.

>>106567827
>pentum... d or m
Pentium M 740

>>106562267 (OP)
Sony Airboard for that y2k-futurism vibe

>>106568043
How? Fourchannel requires you to use JS even to just browse since like almost a year ago I think. Proxy site?

>>106562267 (OP)
My Entry

>>106566061
i remember trying to watch porn on my DSi as a kid

>>106562267 (OP)
Don't know man.

Hello

>>106566304
holy based

For me it has to be the vita

Beating the "all you need is an i5-2500" meme with a 478 socket P4 and the Pokemon 2000 browser is peak weak computing.

>>106566304
>>106566478
>>106569924
>indian pooverty is based
good morning sir

>>106570820
It would be cheaper for me to use a newer machine. I go out of my way to use this one because its cool. I can only imagine what that other anon had to pay for his 3.8 GHz monster.

>>106570837
Not really. Back when I still upgraded hardware regularly, I'd normally wait a year or so before buying anything. Turns out normies wanted Core2 because it didn't overheat without dedicated cpu cooling, even though the 3.8ghz outperformed literally every single one of them for quite a few years on legacy single core tasks, so I got it brand new for like 85 bucks. The 5900 was by far the most expensive part (something like $250 iirc), even though I got it after the 6800 came out.

making a bot farm moshe?

This might be able to, but I don't want to transfer sim cards to try, it only has GPRS

>>106570929
I figured you had bought it recently rather than just had it for 20 years
>Turns out normies wanted Core2 because it didn't overheat without dedicated cpu cooling, even though the 3.8ghz outperformed literally every single one of them for quite a few years on legacy single core tasks
I've seen benchmarks that say otherwise.

>>106562267 (OP)
Heckin communicator

>>106562844
>>106566061
I'm guessing you can't post because of Captcha though

>>106571373
>>106569904
>>106568767
Seething them brought me unparalleled joy.

>>106566061
If we measure "weakest" based on processing speed, DSi has 133 MHz ARM9 + 33 MHz ARM7 = 166 MHz total, whereas my communicator >>106571373 is 150 MHz ARM925T, so I win assuming equal speed.
However, DSi only has 16MB ram, while the communicator has whopping 64mb, out of which 20mb is available for programs.

>>106571373
What bulb/lamp are you using?

>>106570804
Astonishing amounts of sovl

>>106568798
What Dell laptop?

>>106571872
some fluorescent desk lamp

>>106562819
Look at the digits.

>>106571897
Admiring.
>>106562819
Checked.

>>106562267 (OP)
Define browsing 4chan.
You definitively can rig together some text-only 4chan reader, and that can go very low, but obviously that will mean no images and unless you'll find a way to get around the captcha, no posting.

>>106567810
>>I didn't know those supported 1GB of address space.
The 450GX systems could do 8GB (of physical RAM, as opposed to virtual address space). Find some four-way PPro server that a dot-com paid the price of a Lamborghini for in 1996 and you can do it.

Anyway the oldest thing I ever managed to post on was an 8MHz 80286. This was over ten years ago, though, before the faggy humiliation-ritual captcha and shit. pic related

A flip phone from 2009 connecting to the internet with GPRS.

You used to be able to browse 4chan with a 486 Win 3.11 machine with the latest Netscape version released for it.
Didn't display the site completely correctly but still usable.

But I only tried it back when there was no cloudflare or captchas.

If you have a 4chanpass I think you can still post from internet explorer. I did it once for keks when I still had a 4chanpass, but then they banned me so I didn't renew it

>>106562327
I have a Pentium III machine with 128mb of RAM

Shall I try?

>>106566304
Hnnnng

>>106572844
Yes please! :D

>>106570929
Have you been using the same CRT all this time?

>>106566304
A pic of your oldsalt battleship, please?

>>106568767
>>106569904
does cloudflare not shit and piss itself if you're posting from that?

>>106571373
I kneel

>>106571386
you cant post because the reply button/clicking a post number literally doesnt open anything. on XP it does but the captcha doesnt work.

>>106563277
>>106566061
>>106566085
>>106566304
>>106571373

can you post on 4chan on dreamcast?

anyone tried to browse teh internetz on a ps2 with the sony sanctioned linux ed? what about the gamecube or dreamcast?

>>106572901
No way. This was something I accepted as part of a downpayment back in 2014. The guy was literally about to throw it away because "it didn't fit anywhere anymore" which's total bs (been to his house, it could have fit on his regular PC desk). It was 20 bucks (old time neighbor, it was more of a favor but he insisted in paying something) plus this monitor for unpozzing and optimizing his Vista laptop. Used a much cheaper 19" AOC for about 5 years before that.

>>106571064
>I've seen benchmarks that say otherwise
Personally I don't think I remember reading about a proper benchmark on a 3.8ghz back in the day. I do, however, remember benchmarks on slightly older/slower models. The 3.8ghz (HT disabled only) outperformed the earlier Core2's by a good margin, but with HT on it was nothing spectacular. Reason being, only half of the cpu horsepower would be used.

I would post my P4 (2.4Ghz) windows xp screen shot but the mount for the cooler broke yesterday. Reaches 80C in BIOS. Will buy a bracket from eBay

I tested on my Asus EEEPC 401 a few days ago, but I could only browse, not post obviously.
>900MHz Intel Celeron processor, 512MB of RAM, Lubuntu 18.04 i386, Firefox

>>106573505
*701, not 401

>>106573505
Seeing that little thing makes me sad I either lost or broke mine. It's so cute and we went through a lot together. 3:
Rest in peace eeechan I miss you.

>>106562267 (OP)
Here you go anon, Pentium 4, 256MBs of RAM, ATI Radeon 9250. I have browsed 4chan on a pentium 2 PC though, which has 256MBs of RAM and a 3dfx Voodoo 3 graphics card. I can't post or browse the catalogue, however that I think has more to do with the lack of updates on RetroZilla and K-Meleon (the latter of which runs worse).

Oh yeah and Windows itself runs faster and doesn't freeze up on 98 with 256MBs of RAM and a 1.8GHz CPU compared to me using 10 with 32GBs of RAM and a 3.4GHz with 12 cores. Says it all.

>>106573592
Yes, he cute. Battery still holds a charge too. Some machines I have that are less then 9 years old have dead batteries.
I like it, but the thing gets so fucking hot. It's wild. Guess I gotta take it apart at some point and repaste.

>>106572283
I love that computer case.

>>106573690
Based. Also vesa support was pretty decent on voodoo3's.

>>106573780
Speaking of which, I can't get 640x480 VESA mode to work in Duke Nukem 3D for some reason. After switching to it, the setting seems to reset back to 320x200.

>>106573870
Interesting. I used the voodoo3 vesa because everything else was giving me a blinking hud area and green shit all over at higher resolutions. Time for UniVBE?

>>106572951
It's modern Chromium, so no.

>>106567827
I used to have both a D610 and later a D630, some of the best laptops i ever used and incredibly easy to work on and update the hardware.
One of my big regrets is never getting my hands on a D430 of the same generation back in the day.
All the ones i find these days are worn to hell.

>>106566282
You still can buy x86 macbooks and install linux or ltsc

lowest end ive personally done is either a nintendo DS lite with the browser cartridge or a thinkpad 380ED running windows 98 SE on a 166mhz pmmx
lowest ive seen someone browse 4chan on was a text based browser on msdos running on a 33mhz 486 dx
but that starts to get into the realm of "is this even browsing" because its just barely formatted text output when you go that low end
the ds lite opera browser is at least capable of viewing an image though no catalog
and thats only considering a native web connection, you can just pipe a text output to basically anything that can do terminal display, theres no reason you couldnt process a web page and make it functionally display on a commodore PET or something, and people do that, but thats not natively on the hardware

>>106562327
P4 is gaaaay. For me it's the Athlon 64.

>>106573886
Some vesafix on vogons seems to have fixed it.

>>106574267
Which Athlon 64 laptop are you running? I used a Gateway MX6440 for a while back 2016-2017. Comfy.

>>106573886
I've only gotten the blinking HUD problem on Catacomb 3D, probably because that game was made for 286's or something.

>>106574267
AMD + ATI was the poser's choice.

>>106574334
I'd get it on build games mostly. I don't think I ever ran Catacomb on this new a machine.

>>106574300
>Which Athlon 64 laptop are you running?
Nothing now and never did a laptop. Grew up with a S754 Sempron 2800+. Fun shit.
>Gateway MX6440
Oh it's one of those laptops with S754 before AMD decided to make mobile sockets. Interesting stuff. Those mobile chips are the only ones on S754 with SSE3.
>>106574344
Did (((Intel))) give you a rebate for this post?

>>106574358
Yeah the Catacomb games are definitely for much older hardware.

>>106574380
>Did (((Intel))) give you a rebate for this post?
Yes of course.

>>106562267 (OP)
I think I was able to post from a Pentium M with 1024MB of memory recently using XP. not sure though

>>106570804
>>106569904
>>106568767
+rep for using XP in 2025

>>106571373
based

>>106562267 (OP)
You probably can use an 8088 PC computer with a DOS version of lynx to access 4chan.
The 8088 is slower than something like the Z80 or 6502 because it's a 16bit CPU crammed in a 8bit bus with the purpose of "we do a better CPU later".
Of course i imagine one could port a web browser to something like an IBM mainframe or something, but in terms of "with existing software", 8088 computers.

>>106576106
>You probably can use an 8088 PC computer with a DOS version of lynx to access 4chan.
You're out of your mind.

>>106576145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvQlqzQ_Ho0

Giving more than 10 seconds of effort, this microweb seems to do the job.

>>106568393
lies
all lies!

>>106573505
supermium seemed to work ok

>>106576193
That just simple text html's. 4chan runs on javascript.

>>106573316
>but with HT on it was nothing spectacular. Reason being, only half of the cpu horsepower would be used.
I seem to remember that being the exact opposite of how hyperthreading works. I remember it being that the CPU would sit idle when it could be executing instructions because its single thread was busy, while hyperthreading allowed it to not waste any time doing nothing.

Either way I've also seen benchmarks on single thread programs showing that hyperthreading has little to no impact on performance, and my own personal tests show the same.

>>106573505
Consider using setFSB to overclock it. That's what I do to solve captchas on my EeePC.

>>106572844
Try using Win 2k with the kernel extension and NewMoon. You'll have trouble finding a browser that doesn't need SSE2 on Linux.

>>106572951
Nta, but Cloudflare only really cares about your browser and internet speed. It doesn't care that much about processor speed.

>>106573063
>on XP it does but the captcha doesnt work.
Use a newer browser like NewMoon or Supermium.

>>106574267
OP asked about the weakest hardware.

>4chins.org
>click on thread
>ctrl+p
congrats, you are browsing 4chan on a sheet of paper.

>>106576106
The 8088 only allows for 640K of usable RAM and 16-bit instructions. Even most DOS programs used protected mode and 32-bit instructions. I don't think Lynx would run on something like a PC/XT.

>>106576407
You mean for browsing or posting? I'd give it a shot if someone can confirm being able to post using low specs.

>>106576813
I posted this from my DSi

>>106576813
I can post on Supermium from my Pentium 4 machine and my 1.6GHz Atom machine

>>106576638
>Consider using setFSB to overclock
My little 701 already runs pretty hot, I'm not sure I wanna kill the little guy.

>>106576848
512mb of ram?

>>106576861
You should clean and repaste it. Its not supposed to run hot.

>>106576872
I've done it at 1GB of RAM and I was able to run NewMoon with only 256MB on my P4, though I didn't test posting.

>>106576624
If the app was designed to max out one cpu, forcing it to use half of it causes it to underperform. Emulators, video encoders, software renderers, etc run like crap with HT on.

>>106562327
Firefox is dropping 32-bit builds soon, so the minimum will be the rare 64-bit Pentium 4s or Core 2 duos.

>>106576885
Yes, I gotta do it soon.
>>106576900
That's the issue, Browsing isn't a problem, posting is.

>>106562267 (OP)
ever since Javascript and cloudflare became even more necessary to post here. You need newer and newer devices

>>106576905
Looking over some benchmarks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDtQMUGvYQM it seems it varies from program to program. Not even between single and multi threaded, but between individual programs, since some single threaded programs run faster with hyperthreading, others run slower, and others are unaffected. Same with multi threaded even, one of them ran slower with HT too, though most ran faster with it on.

From my own personal experience most of the programs I run either had very little performance difference, or were better with hyperthreading enabled.

What I seriously doubt is the claim that a Pentium 4 under any configuration out performed a Core 2. Even the weakest Core 2 out performs the strongest P4 in most programs. Even the fastest Pentium D couldn't out perform a Core 2.

>>106576979
>That's the issue, Browsing isn't a problem, posting is.
Still seems like it'd be worth a shot to me. Newmoon doesn't use that much RAM, it shouldn't need more than 512MB.

>>106562267 (OP)
Based on my own experience;
>weakest computer
700Mhz P3, 256mb ram, running Windows XP. Pic related. First PC that was fully mine and not the family Dell shitbox.
>Weakest hardware period
PSP. It was pain, but it worked. Very very barely. Other *chan sites ran better.

>>106577221
I have a Toshiba from this era/form factor. Can't remember the model number but it was running Windows 98 last time I booted it up. I think the last time I turned it on was at least 8 or 9 years ago.

Decided to do a test today

Windows 98SE, Dell C600 w/Pentium 3 750mhz and 256mb RAM, let me view but because of Captcha could not post.

>>106577767
Figures there would still be full compatibility besides the one modern addition to the site.
You can push it further though. How does /gif/ and /wsg/ perform?

>>106577767
What browser are you using?

>>106577911

K-Meleon 1.5

If you're running 9x kernel on something with SSE2, Supermium is pretty good. This is probably one of the better browsers for 9x I use that machine for DOS games, it's in immaculate condition.

>>106578067

Forgot Supermium is XP and above, my bad. K-Meleon handles it pretty good, the biggest limiting factor on that machine is 750mhz P3

>>106578067
>>106578087
You should try KernelEX and NewMoon. It has builds for IA32 processors and solves captchas. Failing that, you could install XP on a spare hard drive to test it.

>I can't post my Power Mac G4 Quicksilver because I fucked one of the board's capacitors trying to unscrew a nut with some pliers when attempting some maintenance
>Turns out I got confused and that wasn't even required to take off the heatsink to repaste
I remember playing American McGee's Alice on that thing. RIP.

>>106578108

i do have KernelEX! I'll try new moon later tonight

>>106578171
It gets new builds every week, so you'll want to get the newest one from RTfreesoft's blogspot.

>>106578131
Just solder on a new cap

>>106578373
I soldered the one that I knocked off but it didn't turn off afterwards

>>106578428
Then you did it wrong. Maybe its not making good contact, maybe there's a short, maybe the cap is bad, maybe its the wrong type of cap.

>>106578451
>maybe the cap is bad, maybe its the wrong type of cap
???
Literally the same one that was soldered before

>>106578471
You might have broken it when you snapped it off. Just figure out what kind of cap it is then order a replacement.

>>106578087
>Supermium is XP and above
They plan to add Windows 2000 support in the future. Dunno if they'll actually do it but it would be pretty cool

>>106576736
does cloudflare care about your internet speed?

is win 7 the most kino os?

>>106578131
>>106578373
>>106578451
>>106578486
Completely my bad, it wasn't a capacitor. It was one of these tiny pieces of shit brown resistors. Shit's fucking fucked mate, big time.

>>106578513
I always get captcha fails when using my slow 1.5Mbps internet, but not on my fast 5Mbps internet.

>>106578534
You can replace those too. Practically everything on that board can be desoldered and replaced.

>>106578257

these all seem to be for XP, what's the last one that works on 9x? I haven't been around 9x in a minute but I have a 9x build planned this year and I'd like to be able to download software with it and maybe visit /g/

>pic related, 550mhz K6-3+ @ 615

>>106578532

Currently, yes. I have an HP Dragon with that on it and have had a great time reliving my childhood on period hardware.

>pic related, right before steamrolling the rest of the LAN party this year in CTF-MoonDragon Zoom Instagib

>>106578726
That's why I mentioned using KernelEX or XP on a spare hard drive. KernelEX allows you to run XP programs on 9x.

>>106578810

oh shit, alright, well ill give it a try tonight, that sounds awesome

>>106562267 (OP)
Do we count posting, or only browsing?

Without a pass I used to be able to post from a thinkpad 240 with the celeron 400mhz I think and 320mb ram using midori browser, but then they pushed out the cloudflare stuff and I couldn't anymore

>>106578842
I successfully took a pic of it with a thread loaded using my mavica floppy camera, then put the floppy in the proper IBM floppy drive for the laptop and selected the picture from the floppy drive and posted. Uploading directly from the floppy to 4chan

>>106578783
nice, nice monster 12 pack, i love those too. specs on the hp?

>>106578428
It's possible you ripped the pad/trace when you knocked the capacitor off; if so you should be able to fix it with a bridge wire.

>>106578534
>it wasn't a capacitor. It was one of these tiny pieces of shit brown resistors.
Those are surface-mount ceramic capacitors, so you were actually right the first time.

>>106578855
I do that now because that's the only way I can get photos onto my PC aside from swapping the SD card from my phone to my PC.

>>106578873

T8100
ATi 2600XT
6gb DDR2
250gb SSD boot + 1tb spinny
W7 pro + LegacyUpdate

Later this year I'm doing the X9000 upgrade and possibly the Nvidia 8800GTS upgrade if I can find one on eBay. The 2600 plays most games up to about 2012 fairly well. I wished I could get Steam working on it, but I was able to find all of my games without Steam and just installed standalone versions, most are for LAN parties anyway. It will do pretty much everything up to like Quake 4 with all the eye candy on at over 100fps.

The Monsters are my girlfriends, I prefer Bawls but the Pacific Punch flavor slaps.

Also have this on the bench for later this year, getting a full watercooling system for LAN parties

ASUS P4P800
P4 3.4 Prescott
GeForce 5900 Ultra
7800 Ultra coming, have to clean the DangerDen waterblock first
2gb dual channel DDR400
XP Pro
SSD boot with RAMDisk enabled to minimize trim damage

>>106579093
>SSD boot with RAMDisk enabled to minimize trim damage
qrd on this?

>>106579093
In case you don't remember this, the best, fastest and most backwards compatible drivers ever released were Forceware 94.94 (first version, properly signed and witbout any trace of the pozzed then "new" interface). Anything beyond that only fixed the very latest software at the expense of everything else.

>>106579034
What...?

>>106579426
The marked black rectangles are resistors; the unmarked brown ones are capacitors.

>>106579498
Huh... Okay. Well, they're still tiny. Took a few tries to get it in place with the soldering iron and I'm not the best at it, I'm sure the entire thing is fried anyways from so much heat.

>>106579507
Its probably fine anon, these things are designed to survive soldering.

>>106562327
512MB might be doable but it would be rough. The ram actually matters a bit more than the speed because some old Atoms are slower.
Cloudflare is fucking gay thoughbeit and I couldn't actually post this from that machine because I was "rangebanned" which is a complete fucking lie.

A C2D is basically the minimum viable computer these days though.

>>106580053
Also, I believe that 99% CPU was Cloudflare related. Regular browsing is only 10~50% CPU with spikes on scrolling. Captcha loading will peg it momentarily once you're able to get them.

>>106580053
I get by with a Pentium 4, as do a couple other posters in this thread.

>>106562267 (OP)
386 with DOS and Arachne or Lynx could probably manage it. I don't think you can post without Javascript though.

>>106562267 (OP)
I have a Dell laptop like OP's pic. It even has an S-Video port and Dell still has all of the drivers for it on their website. I should get a cable and plug it into my CRT TV from 2005 and see if I can emulate ZSNES straight to the TV.

Anyone with one of these laptops ever try this? How hard is it to get XP to project to an external display? Forum posts from 2006 seem to suggest there are some hurdles to overcome in display settings or something but I haven't tried it yet.

>>106580276
I have several myself and could definitely still use them, but I don't pretend it's very practical. Being (almost all) 32-bit means they're nearly dead at this point.

I'm pretty sure the slowest C2D is faster than the best P4 and will still just werk in Linux without much extra thought.

>>106580367
>Anyone with one of these laptops ever try this?
I have
>How hard is it to get XP to project to an external display?
It displays just fine. The issue is getting programs to display in fullscreen on the right monitor. They always want to display on monitor 1, but you don't want the TV to be monitor 1 because its 640x480, and makes the UI of most programs unusable.

>>106580393
>Being (almost all) 32-bit means they're nearly dead at this point.
No they aren't. 32 bit machines are very usable, you just have to be more careful when selecting software. I tend to use old software for everything that doesn't absolutely need to be up to date. As an example, my image editing software is a ten year old version of paint.net, but my web browser is a modern Palemoon fork.

>>106580402
>It displays just fine.
Cool.
>The issue is getting programs to display in fullscreen on the right monitor. They always want to display on monitor 1, but you don't want the TV to be monitor 1 because its 640x480, and makes the UI of most programs unusable.
What have you found to be the best solution to this in your experience?

>>106580432
I usually just keep the resolution control window open and change the display configuration as needed. I do as much as I can with the main monitor set to a high resolution, then change it to 640x480 duplicate display mode when I'm ready to start playing. From there I just memorize the hotkeys to do the stuff I need if necessary, usually I don't need to. The games themselves work fine, since most old games have a native 640x480 resolution option anyways.

Another issue is overscan. Your drivers should compensate for it, but they might not. It depends on the gpu manufacturer and driver version.

>>106580450
Alright, I'll hop on ebay and buy a svideo cable then and tinker around a bit. Thanks for the pointers Anon.

>>106580412
>No they aren't. 32 bit machines are very usable >I tend to use old software
That's exactly what I mean though. I never said they weren't usable, I have a netbook I can post from, but they're very near EOL.
See >>106576943
See Debian Trixie dropping it as a regular architecture. Hell, even 32-bit ARM is getting dropped by a lot of things.

>you just have to be more careful when selecting software
And you don't have to worry about this at all on a C2D unless you're specifically trying to run something that needs an instruction it doesn't have. I can install a random distro, open the included browser and it will still work on the modern web.

>>106580515
That's still no where near dead. Dead is when it can't be used for modern tasks anymore. I can still read and write modern document standards with OpenOffice, browse modern webpages with NewMoon and Supermium, check my email, view modern image formats with infranview, watch movies with VLC, and do any other task I might need to do at any given moment. A dead computer is something like a C64 or a PC/XT. You can't perform any computing tasks in a way that will at all be useful on those machines. Can't browse the web, can't check email, can't even read or write documents due to incompatibility with modern standards.

On the Linux side, just because big distros like Debian and Ubuntu don't support it doesn't mean you can't still have a full software suite either. I'll admit I'm not very well versed on the subject, but even I know of a few distros and some software that I can use on there to meet my needs. Q4OS is my current favorite distro for legacy machines precisely because it does have full 32 bit support and intends to retain it for a long time.

>>106577221
>PSP. It was pain, but it worked. Very very barely. Other *chan sites ran better.
Should've tried my PS3 before I broke it. Thanks for reminding me. Nigger.
It might have been fine, that ancient piece of shit can play YT as well as any cheap shit smart tv using the same app (it's a website) someone made it work.

>>106578131
I fried my dual 1.25 mdd by overclocking I think. After finding a 7800GS for it no less.

>>106562267 (OP)
I miss my D600. I played so much Halo CE and Worms WP on that thing. Also started pen testing with it

>>106580515
>And you don't have to worry about this at all on a C2D unless you're specifically trying to run something that needs an instruction it doesn't have. I can install a random distro, open the included browser and it will still work on the modern web.
when was the last time you tried that? not him, but i tried that just recently. i use pale moon, and the default build just recently started using avx, so it stopped working on my core2duo. i had to adjust the pkgbuild to pull a contributor's sse2 build instead

>>106580955
How about I pen-test you, iykwim :-*

Test

>>106581486
Something weaker than a 2015 entry level smartphone from samsung

>>106581237
That seems fairly recent and specific to Pale Moon. I don't think most of the other Firefox derivatives have bothered yet.
But yes, more things are targeting x86-64-v2 and beyond. Which is why I was saying it's silly to argue that 32-bit is alive and well.

>>106578783
i miss those screens

>>106581486
>>106581503
My iPhone 6s stopped being able to get the captcha like 2 weeks ago. It's at ios15. Impressive.

>>106562819
It's a pretty obvious joke, and not everyone sees every post

>>106582347
This thing is running android 5.1.1. I'm trying to figure out what to do with it

>>106582382
It's probably just a browser thing since ios's browsers are stuck with their version and you can't update them unless you update the whole OS.
Really annoying since Google also screws you over if you're using an old browser by not letting you watch past 360p quality.

>>106582397
You can't install another browser on ios? Chrome is unusable on that samsung, I installed firefox and it works fine, albeit slow. I used newpipe but it had at some point it would stop working. My previous phone broke so I really got to have fun with that thing for a week or so

>>106582426
Other iOS browsers are mostly reskinned Safaris. You're still using the old Safari no matter how much you update the other ones.

>>106582397
People always say iPhones are better because they receive longer support, which is generally technically true, but as soon as an iPhone has been out of support for around 2 years or so, it becomes practically unusable with modern apps and the web. However, on Android, even a phone that hasn't had an update in 10+ years stuck on Android 5 can still use a modern web browser and a lot of modern apps.

>>106578783
You'd have nicer things if you didn't waste your money on bullshit like takeout.

>>106582673
Ah, my bad. My 6s Plus is on iOS13. Not 15. 13 is I think from 2019.
But yeah, you can't update the browser without updating the whole OS. It's really annoying how they're forcing updates like that. It's not even an Apple thing too. Apps in general want you to update to the latest OS.

>>106581503
Was google play store still available to you? My Lenove 10-30 from 2015 i du out of a dumpster won't connect to the servers despite being able to surf the web on it's unupdateable Chrome 43

>>106581876
yes, it's recent. i'm not saying it's a big problem yet, but soon you will expect base amd64 to stop being supported by more software.
now that's not to say there won't be options for core2 users for years to come, but your comment about being able to just use anything at all probably won't be true much longer

>>106568270
>lactation free

>>106582793
It works but it's really slow. Youtube and gmail don't work, instagram lite works but regular one doesn't

>>106582793
>>106582861
I just checked playstore is running version 39. something (and it says that it's up to date), while my actual phone is running 46.something. I don't think it's going to be working for much longer

>>106582880
Huh, surprised it works at all, my Lenovo POS won't even let me access the store or update the android version despite it going up to i think 7. It can still browse 4chan, but i can't search, can't post (it doesn’t even error out it just does nothing) Catalog doesn’t load and no ads, last ones nice at least

>>106578783
>>106579093
Comfy

>>106582712
Am not the pic poster, you're right but that's a yearly LAN party, which is an acceptable reason for getting takeout imo. A little decadence for a special occasion.

>>106582910
Sideload F-Droid or Aurora Store and get Firefox or some other browser.

>>106582910
>won't even let me access the store or update the android version despite it going up to i think 7
that might be issue with lenovo's server. This samsung used to run android 6 but I fucked something up when I tried to install custom rom and ended up installing some indian stock rom for android 5 and now it won't update

>>106578783
why are there other people in the room though

>>106583009
If I decide i care to use it then sure
>>106583022
>that might be issue with lenovo's server
I didn’t even consider that it might be some custom server/store fuckery from Lenovo, you might be right, sorry to hear about your Samsung being stuck on Loodroid anon

>>106583158
thanks, it's a good excuse to actually learn about custom roms and to do it properly this time around

>>106562267 (OP)
I gave a try with 86box, it's cycle accurate so it's kind of a good test.

You can browse 4chan in windiws95 with a k6 266mhz and 256mb RAM with really really surprising snappiness using retrozilla. Video card I set a matrox.

Obviously due to cloudflare cancer no ways to post, but I really didn't expect all to work that good.

Really shows what is killing internet nowadays and how a sensitive planning can make web accessible to the oldest machines. And how we should really question using cloudflare and that stuff.

Do we really, need it no matter what?

>>106562267 (OP)
Perhaps an OrangePiPC? ~10 year old single board computer that was presumably designed to compete with the rasberry pi 2, it still gets OS support from Armbian

the reply box and the catalog are broken, but at least it works for browsing

In 2008 I was able to browse and post on 4chan from a Pentium MMX laptop with 32MB memory. Obviously long before the captcha stuff, wouldn't be possible today.

>>106568270
Click really highlights how tech now is way less futuristic than the past despite our capabilities being way better now. The "future" depicted in click is full of '00s shit like the Air Board (which is just a bulkier, less capable tablet) and Motorola Ojo (which is just a bulkier, less capable smartphone), yet it looks way more futuristic than what we have now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDj1GM3RRWs

>>106584444
feels like a century ago that 4chan implemented captcha, but i too remember when basically any browser, old or new, could post on 4chan. i have posted on much slower machines than even your pentium mmx 166 (i've owned one of those, but it was a desktop, a compaq deskpro)

>>106584444
>>106584621
Will be possible again if Supermium eventually adds Windows 2000 support as planned

>>106584621
>>106584936
i think even the idea that the captcha was a "temporary solution" is forgotten at this point.
i've posted on machines too slow to even run 2k on, back in "the day"

>>106571386
>>106573063
4chan pass to get rid of captcha.
Use the reply form at the top of the page to post replies.

>>106562267 (OP)
The 4chan server

>>106585002
>4chan pass

>>106585067
I can't imagine browsing this site without a 4chan pass. 4chan is only free if you don't value your time

>>106562267 (OP)
Well, if you want to get semantic about it, and the only requirement is to "browse", not "render" or "post", then you could get some tiny microcontroller with an http client, ssl, and a json parser to print out posts on an lcd dot-matrix display. Might be a fun challenge.

>>106585067
I don't mind throwing a few bucks at hiromoot to keep the servers going. It's not like we have anywhere else to go.

>>106582712

I have nicer things, pic related.

>Stressing over 12 dollar Chinese takeout

kek

>>106582996

yup, and that takeout fucking slapped, Szcheuan Tofu, ordered it every single day of the LAN party except the day they did burgers on the grill for us, I spent most of the day helping them set up the folding tables and shit and could not be assed to cook I found new joints in my body that I didn't know I had and they hurt after that.

>>106583066

LAN party with friends. We did UT99, UT2004 Zoom Instagib CTF, Quake 2 and 4, Chivalry, CS 1.6, HALO CE and HALO 2 Project Cartographer, we did OG Call of Duty the first one, and probably some other shit I'm forgetting there was like 50 of us we had that little VFW fucking packed, and a few vets came out one of the days and made burgers for us, it was the best LAN party I ever went to including ones I hosted back in the 2000s.

>>106579119

You set up a RAMDisk and tell Windows XP to put its swap file there. I can't remember all of the specifics I set it up years ago on this and on a C2D T60p but basically the RAMdisk helps with making the drive last longer. Honestly google is your friend on this.

There's other ways to address TRIM on XP with an SSD, but it's mostly on older laptops, the machine here is actually supposed to get a windowed WD Raptor 10k if I can find a good deal on one, which, as much horsepower as that machine has, should be a negligible difference in speed vs. SSD. As long as you're above 7200rpm you're fine. It's really more of a thing with ancient 4200rpm laptop drives I'm going to have to relearn it again for an IBM T30 I'm building for motorsports use.

>>106587407
honestly just get a 2 bucks optane 16gb and an adapter as a primary drive, get something else as a secondary

>>106587492

That's something I've looked at actually. It isn't going to be seeing a lot of time anyway it's for a standalone ECU on a track car

>>106562267 (OP)
Doxxing JS's required for posting to 4chan will time out before old computers can actually load all the JS required for them.

So, whatever combination of browser and computer which won't be so slow that these features time out.

>>106562267 (OP)
That's a nice laptop

>>106587407
>UT99, UT2004 Zoom Instagib CTF, Quake 2 and 4, Chivalry, CS 1.6, HALO CE and HALO 2 Project Cartographer,
Absolute kino my fren

>>106584444
>wouldn't be possible today.
sure it is, you just need a 4chan pass, then you don't get any captchas

>>106589094

I went undefeated in one of the UT99 rounds and dominated that and UT2004, they were giving away a 5070 RTX and going by rounds won, I was so close to winning it, I got my ass handed to me in HALO 2 lmao it was a lot of fun. We did FacingWorlds, MoonDragon, Face3, Phobos, Deck 16 and 17, Deemerdoom, DM-Redeem, all the classic maps.

>Mfw killbox map with 1000 Redeemers

>>106584444
checked and sweet. my first computer was pentium mmx with 32mb ram and I rocked it up to 2005 on dial up

>>106566304
Please show your setup.

>>106590328
I have one almost identical to this. It's in pieces right now though, after I spilled an entire pint of beer on it.

>>106562267 (OP)
I've checked 4chan out on my PowerMac 7300/200, but it required me to run a proxy to strip TLS and obviously there's no way to post here from any browser that runs on Mac OS 9.

>>106562327
>>106562821
>>106563036
>>106563346
this: >>106563067
op said browse, not post so you can use way weaker hardware
i ran a 9front vm with 1 thread and 128mb of ram and it views the page fine, even if theres no js or css
im sure it could go lower but i cant be arsed to check right now

>>106593255
You could try using the proxy to render the webpage as well, similar to how browservice or Opera mini do it.

>>106566090
I love you katsuranon

>>106566304

I need to see this, I'm guessing LGA775? Very cool, if it weren't for modern gaming I would probably be running something very similar. My daily was a Barton-core Athlon XP up until about 2009.