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Previous: >>106614773

learn a trade

As usual the vague engineering task i receive from our architects turns out significantly more complicated than first estimated
At least we pre-padded the story points

I applied for a job. I got an email to take a online assessment. I used Chatgpt here and there to get answers. I sprinkled in some wrong answers to not make it look suspicious. I hope I get the job.

Long shot but anyone here work in the quant industry? I'm being given an opportunity to switch to a tech team of my choosing (MM firm) and was pondering whether I should go for exchange connectivity, real-time modelling, or otherwise.

I do tech support for a company that makes a product and software to use said product. A lot of our shit is sold to churches, hospitals, banks, and schools. School IT are fucking idiots. How the fuck do they get hired?

>>106631255
I don't know how hard your online assessments are if you need to use ChatGPT to answer them. The last one I did was pretty easy and I really only needed to look up function names because I keep forgetting them.

>>106631354
It was multiple choice stuff. I was able to narrow down to 2 answers. It was mostly to confirm if I was wrong or right. I had 70% correct

How do I learn to be enjoyable to interact with?

>>106631447
What makes you not enjoyable?

>>106631347
Probably no one in the school system knows how to evaluate an IT guy

>>106631525
Had one ask me 'how do you ping?' fuck I hate my job.

Why isn’t everyone working 2+ remote jobs? I would myself but I’m not skilled enough. I’m sure most people on here are more capable than me so why not?

>>106631587
I value my free time.

>>106631112
Architects are on the same level as project managers.

>>106631643
Well I mean I work one remote job and it’s literally 2-3 hours a week of actual work. Guess I’m lucky or efficient

>>106631347
If they're public schools, I'm not at all surprised. Almost everything on the public sector pays like shit and everyone competent can get a better-paying job.

i spent a good 25 minutes making a zero-copy use function for a custom shared data object only to have it rejected for being weird and complicated

template<typename L>
concept Lockable = requires(L l)
{
{l.lock() } -> std::same_as<void>;
{l.unlock() } -> std::same_as<void>;
};

template<typename T, Lockable... Lockables>
requires (sizeof...(Lockables) > 0)
class thing
{
T data;
mutable std::tuple<Lockables...> lockables;

static constexpr auto lock_fn = [](auto&... l) { return std::scoped_lock(l...); };

public:
/*
* other stuff
*/

template<typename F>
requires std::invocable<F, const T&>
auto use_with(F&& f) const noexcept(noexcept(f(std::declval<T const&>())))
-> decltype(f(std::declval<T const&>()))
{
auto lock = std::apply(lock_fn, lockables);
return f(data);
}
};


am i in the wrong?

>"saar pleaes review this proposal"
>it's obvious unedited chatgpt output
god this industry is cooked

>>106631904
I agree with it being weird and complicated.

>>106631468
I'm sunked in, borderline autistic.

>>106631587
I kind of want to find a part time remote job. Not full time because I like being in the office and seeing people occasionally, but just as something I could do once or twice a week to pad my income.

I don't really know what kind of remote job I'd take though. I feel like doing networking remotely would be too involved for me to do on top of my current job, and I'm not a programmer so that's out.

>>106631587
You mean either burn through all of my free time or cheat? For what? So I can trade in my BMW for a Porsche?

>tfw it's friday and some fucking sysadmin have fucked up all the permissions on the dev server
I fucking hate sys admins.

how can tech workers collectively organize (especially on a local level) when old fashioned unions are politically divisive and joining one is risky?

>Can you explain these merge errors to me please
Kill me

>Get a contract though agency
>another contractor is the project manager, same agency
>this contractor fills everybody's time with infinite meetings and bills the client based on them
>contractor pm wants me to work extremely fast, no proper onboarding documents are given and reqs change suddenly, even 30 minutes before presenting my work to stakeholders
>3 weeks later I get in a call with contractor PM and client stakeholder, who basically lets the contractor PM drive the meeting, where I'm told they are expecting much more from me because "I did the interview so well" and "their expectations are high"
>I reply I've only been there for three weeks (one blocked due to lack of permissions) and I can't just give my 100% in such a short time while having 50% of my daily time dedicated to the meetings the contractor schedules
>1 month later my contract is suddenly cancelled due to "performance reasons"
What the fuck. The contractor PM is basically churning through other contractors to perpetuate his contract while the client stakeholder lets him ride it. Have you ever experienced this?

>>106631014 (OP)
>"being ultra-reliable"
fuck yourself, i am not staying after hours for fucking meetings

>>106632355
>he didn't compile before making his PR
embarrassing

I've had 3 hours of meetings every day this week and I want to kys myself.

>>106632355
Just ask AI :^)

tgif am i right fellas

>>106632556
No nigga is trying to merge his branch with mine it's not from main or pre or anything i dont understand why he didn't just pull

>>106632703
well normally there's some foreplay involved but you can just add extra lubricant now

>>106632686
Every day is a Friday when you're a NEET. Food for thought.

>>106632811
that literally doesn't make sense

>>106632880
makes sense to me

The only reason why I got a CS degree is because I wanted to make my own shit. A job is just a bonus for money so I can buy my own shit.

my manager fucking sucks

>>106631904
You will be fired next week and get out of this general

>>106633153
>The only reason why I got a CS degree is because I wanted to make my own shit.
what kind of stuff did you want to make?

>>106633287
nothing but i have ideas on my notepad++ that i will someday start on...but thinking about a homelab so I can hoard more porn

IT'S FRIDAY!

>>106631587

Stress. Mental toll is a real cost. I got 2 jobs at the same time and decided to give it a shot and it was simply too much, maybe if I was a nolife shutin I could have flexed it but I'm not and felt spread thin.

>>106632329

The local level is useless, anon. That's what we have realized. Unions were local level, and they were flanked and undercut by globalism and outsourcing. We're getting outsourced, there is nothing you can do "locally" to prevent that. What you can do is go national, and join national initiatives to protect American workers. There are already organizations dedicated to that and politicians have been considering anti visa, anti remote work measures.

The one that I think has the most potential (because it also pays off Congress) is an additional tax on remote workers for American companies.

starting a new job at some online gambling company
should I feel bad? I don't think I should. How many of you work in fields that actually bring positivity to the world instead of stealing personal data for advertisers?

>>106633386
a job is a job

>>106631014 (OP)
I'm not sure what to do career wise. Currently have a bachelors in cs and work at a shitty startup paying $25/hr. Literally no one is hiring undergrads even if I'll be willing to take a 60k/yr position. Also .NET and C# ecosystem is the most enjoyable thing for me to code in, but 90% of local positions ask for Java or some additional bullshit like Angular or React. Also too young to go to grad school because I need to wait a couple more years until I'm considered "independent" for financial aid purposes to get some more free government money.

I'm stuck in a limbo, and idk what to do.

>>106633386
I'd rather work for an ad company than gambling, since the latter is very much dependent on ruining the lives of a couple of people to survive. Gambling is very much a whale business.

>>106633386
I grew up poor due to my mother's gambling habits, so while I do understand that a job is a job, I do have an axe to grind against these sort of companies. I'll rather work for a defence company.

>>106633500
>>106633654
it's an infra job it's not like I get to decide anything I just help it stay up basically

>>106633785
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>first job I got is a c++ job even though I never really used it
How hard is it to use it at work or is it easy to learn?

>>106633853
your colleagues are going to see you cry

>>106633853
It sucks.

good morning /twg/

it's so easy to laugh it's so easy to hate
it takes strength to be gentle and kind

>>106634255
jobs for this feeling?

Anyone know if wearing a hoodie, jeans and nike shoes is ok for work as a software engineer? I am starting my internship in January thats why I'm asking. I always see mark Zuckerberg wearing jeans and a chain so I'm just wondering if its acceptable.

>>106631587
I did at one point, wouldnt recommend unless you work towards yourself. This time the second "job" is going to be my online business. If all goes to plan, and I have multiple streams of income, fuck off my current job to work less hours and finally enjoy life

>>106631014 (OP)

font matters noto sans kayah is not 1:1 noto sans mayan

>>106634298
You can show up dressed as Gandalf if you are good at your job.

>go to a work conference
>6h talking about programming
>lunch break
>grab a couple of beers and try to relax for a bit
>most people around me are talking about work and programming
>some talking about side projects at the weekend
Am I expected to be like this? It's been years since I do anything related to programming outside work hours.

>>106631904
My java brain is too retarded to understand this, i understand like the structure, not what lockable/template do

>fuck around the morning doing nothing
>open ticket site in the afternoon
>client complain something doesn't work and they need to send to the tribunal a bunch of files with deadline 12.00
>it's 17.00
I love being a consultant, nobody give a shit what i do or don't do

>got rejected by FAGMAN a few months ago
>keep getting my shit pinged
>their recruiters are still looking at my profile
Is it normal behavior for FAGMAN to act like an ex-gf?

How far away would you relocate for a job? I've done it before but I'm older now. I don't really want to move to a completely new part of the country but I think I have to, if I want to keep working as a dev.

>>106634887
depends entirely on how much i'm being paid, if I have roots in my current area/kids, and whether I'm going to like the job

>>106634887
I have no kids, am single, and family isn't in the area so the decision isn't that hard for me. Most of my friends I made were either not really my friends, drifted away, moved away, or speak a few times a year.

I'm still only living in cities so that's my first go or no-go filter before weighing in cost of moving, their offer, and the general location. Unlike others, I have no problem rebuilding myself, identity, or whatever image of myself that seems to keep some people hard rooted in certain areas.

>>106633386
>starting a new job at some online gambling company
>should I feel bad?
>>106633440
>>106633500
>>106633654
it's a nigger tier industry.
not even close to the best pay possible either.

I'd rather just level myself up and get better job, better pay, better colleagues, better purpose

>>106632543
and yet no one have asked you to do this all these time, no?

your purpose in this world is simply make money to treat yourself, your siblings, and your parents.

that's it.

>>106634951

Ok so you're a perfect relocation candidate

>>106634895
>>106634951
Yeah I don't have kids or many ties to my current area. Like I said I have relocated to a different part of the country before. But that was a long time ago. I guess I need to decide if I want to do it again. But there are very few dev jobs in my current location so I probably do need to move again.

>>106634751
Templates are just sepples' inferior generics.

>>106633943
tfw wageslaving again

>>106635183
Maybe but companies don't like paying for relocation that aren't FAGMAN

>>106635231
>very few dev jobs in my current location
I feel you on this one. That's my current situation as well and why I'm heavily considering the relocation option. I might get my exit soon.

>>106633455
.NET has always had like half the positions Java has.
But you won't be any better being a Java jeet, the market is broken since 2022.

>idk what to do
Consider moving to Bengaluru to work for big murican corpos. They'll pay shit but at least food is free for employees in India. Then you can migrate back as H1B and get a job in some big tech while living in a van park.

with my 1st salary i'm going to wear cosplay at work starting on 2nd month every Friday

>start to feel a little stressed
>remember they fucked me on raise and bonus
Oh right I don't care. Put up or shut up.

>>106635353
Chances are that your coworkers won't even notice or give a fuck.

>>106635374
that's the point! i get to heal my inner child without looking like a huge embarrassment

>>106635388
I think the last time I was truly happy was when I was like 4 and playing with lego.

>>106635353
>>106635388
everyone already will know you are a fag guaranteed, might as well just wear your dress up

>>106635353
You are going to get fired, mark my words

How do I check if my team is going to be white before accepting an offer?

>>106632543
>be slav slave in a yuropean branch of a US company
>every fucking week there is a all hands scheduled according to US time zone
>all the white guys are sitting in a dark room at 8 pm all dressed up just waiting for the call to close so they can go home
>ameriburgers bikeshed useless trivia and have the audacity to run the mtg overtime on every single occasion

feed my inner minecraft like nothing else, being colonized by capital is suffering

>>106635534
>tfw you want to go full-on insane like a schizophrenic but instead the only thing you hear is your inner critic pitying you

>>106635610
>accepting calls after hours
lol. lmao even

>>106631904
really not that weird but most places aren't using concepts when they should for templates

>>106635610
>mtg
tranny game

>>106631904
>25 minutes
I work in HW and PRs frequently take months

>>106635401
I pity your future wife and kids

>>106635503
I know i can pull it off, im not a queer

>>106635544
Wont happen because i know how to be both likeable and competent

>>106631587
I can't even find a single remote job to replace my office cage job.

>>106635683
What is even the point of concepts besides slightly better compiler error messages?

>>106635561

You can't. I got interviewed by a white manager then a white software engineer and upon being hired was thrown into a mass of 95% Indians. These fags know what they're doing.

>no Indians on my team
>no Indians in my department
>no Indians in leadership
I still want them all sent back

Back? I want them nuked

https://youtu.be/-VOIWt71310?si=EpVC26l03V8S1fsD

>>106636133

Vigilance is how you avoid our fate

>>106631587
you think remote jobs are sold on vending machines lol

They say I need to be in office 4 days a week after being in office for "2" (1 sometimes 0) days a week. What the shit is this
I'm just gonna continue to go "2" times a week until I get fired or something

>>106636164
>he accepted 2 days
You VILL accept 5 days eventually and you VILL be happy.

>>106636164
MAI?

>>106636101
limiting template variant testing
and if you pass it on for someone else to use theyre less likely to fuck it up

>>106636180
A certain mouse company

>>106636357
Razer? Logitech? Pulsar? Zowie? Steelseries? Vaxee?

>>106635401
this and also you can probably get away more with having lego at your desk. get the robotics set and if anyone complains you arent working say you're "prototyping"

>>106631587
I've been trying to get a J2 for months
seems like Remote has dried up

>>106635329
>.NET has always had like half the positions Java has.
I'm in the UK and I see lots of .NET jobs and not that many Java ones. Maybe some British companies like to just use Microsoft for everything.

>>106636388
I assumed he meant Disney

>>106635353
Ganbare, anon

>>106636639
this is a man, isn't it

also sauce

>>106636786
I would be extremely disappointed if it was a guy dressing up in erotic cosplays

>>106636786
Unfortunately a woman.
Literally the first 2 speech bubbles.

>>106636639
i wanna do a sexy shrine maiden cosplay so much but i live in a leftoid area and am worried everyone is gonna call me rayciss

>Stay at home, get very little work done but have energy for the rest of the day
>Go to the office, get barely more work done but come home completely exhausted and with the intense urge to kill myself

How do I escape this purgatory

>>106637339
Burn down the office

>>106637339

Hmmm... I forgot how tiring the office is. Now I want to stay remote. That shit was lame, could barely get a workout in after.

>>106636868
>Literally the first 2 speech bubbles
What order are you even supposed to read this shit? The first from the direction I read said "one MAN show"

Apologize

>>106636868
>Literally the first 2 speech bubbles.
Okay
>Eh?
>I am a one-MAN show
So it's a man, got it. Thanks for the clarification.

>>106636639
Does she get fucked in this one and if so, link?

>>106637608
that orange faggot will quietly forget that proposal and import another 150K jeets next week. when will you fucking learn

>>106637608
Preliminary FFIAA recipient.

How am I supposed to get experience to apply to those fancy devops Senior job positions?
I'd like one of those jobs, but nobody would hire me because I don't have the experience, but I can't get the experience because no one hires me.
I've been working with devops stuff for 3 years but I still feel like I'm not much more than a mid-level.
How the fuck am I supposed to advance when I don't have the chance to put my hands on more complex things or have a senior to learn from?

>>106637682
lie

>>106637608
How is Fuentes going to be able to spin this as a bad thing?

>>106637682
Just starting doing the senior things. The senior people weren't "allowed" to do the things, they just did them and showed they were capable.

>>106637748
Just look 2 posts above you. Trannies are already crying about it

>>106637608
Please be real

Need to reach my AI usage quota, what should I do with it

>>106637608
fake

>>106637608
FALLING FOR IT AGAIN

>>106637831
>>106637855
Its everywhere

>>106637872
Either not happening or H1B is kill. Ain't nobody gonna pay 100 grand for a fucking non-immigration visa.
On the other hand, jeets will occupy other visa types, significantly increasing wait time.

>>106637872
It's time the jeets fucked back off to india

>>106637890
it's probably a one time fine for doing it at all, assuming it's even actually real and not another trump scam

>>106637872
Wait until he switches positions on Monday after some CEO glazes him and says how harmful it will be to American businesses on American shores.

>>106637900
1) its happening
2) its a per-application fee, and the applicant will literally be DENIED ENTRY until that money is paid

>>106637910
Im screenshotting this and I WILL collect my apology next week

>>106637911
Oh, I just got a boner reading this

American office just got offshored and I lost my job to Jeets.
Now what?

Being signed literally right now:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK9L029BcaM

ITS FUCKING PER YEAR
H1B IS OVER
$100K PER YEAR TO HIRE EACH JEET

>>106634711
>Am I expected to be like this? It's been years since I do anything related to programming outside work hours.
field became a dumpster fire of competing against every loser austist on the globe.

>>106638118
>ITS FUCKING PER YEAR
>H1B IS OVER
>$100K PER YEAR TO HIRE EACH JEET
you wish
we wish.

>>106638166
Fucking hell

>>106638166
I JUST WATCHED HIM SIGN IT YOU LYING N*GGER
$100K PER YEAR PAYMENT TO THE GOVERNMENT

>>106638166
LMFAO

>>106638185
I'm checking the video now. what timestamp?
are we sure he didn't mispeak?

If so, this comes from out of nowhere. All I have heard discussed or rumored for weeks is a salary minimum

>>106638209
Just go back 10 minutes and watch him and lutnick outline out while he signs
Its very clear. $100k / year / applicant payment to the government

>>106638225
>Just go back 10 minutes and watch him and lutnick outline out while he signs
>Its very clear. $100k / year / applicant payment to the government
holy shit I think you're right.

I'm seeing the conversation hitting TeamBlind now. This is amazing.

>>106637911
Well I just turned into a maga shill. 2025 might turn out alright

huge weekend incoming. enormous plans.

>>106637900
>it's probably a one time fine for doing it at all, assuming it's even actually real and not another trump scam
per year per h1b. renewals too

>>106637608
I'm sure that will totally happen, just like the wall. Oops.
>>106637682
You're supposed to go up the ranks starting with entry level and junior stuff, but those have an even worse catch-22.

Looks like if I get hired by FAGMAN, my direct manager will be going out the door as I walk through since he's H-1B. Shit, I think my chances of getting hired just shot up.

TRUMP THE REDEEMER

https://x.com/rapidresponse47/status/1969155493701571049

jeets btfo

dark maga is BACK

>we want someone who can work independently and figure his own way out
>>sorry we’re not hiring you we feel like you’re TOO independent where you wont be able to be a good teamplayer
I hate normies and their psychopathic social games. Kys. Just say what you mean, you will never ever meet me again in life so what do you have to lose you insecure posturing fuck

>>106631260
go for exchange connectivity if you like reading documentation

>>106638166
cope. its per year kek

>>106637608
BREATHES IN

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAABABABAHABABABAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>106634602
Do you dress up as Gandalf for your job?

>>106638638
NTA but I do, yeah
Don't forget the staff

>>106638543
You must be very embarrassed now to learn that it's not a "fee". It's just min salary

>>106634298
Have a different dresscode for each day

Show up like this every friday

>>106631021
zoomer meme

learn day trading

Learn japanese and mandarin

>>106637608

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/restriction-on-entry-of-certain-nonimmigrant-workers/
Read through the EO and it only affects new jeet imports who are not in the US currently. So h1bs who are currently on visa arent getting kicked out, but there wont be any new arrivals from india each year

>>106634298
>implying you aren't just an IT janny
>implying you don't work in a (fur)Suit Required Zone
put on the kemono costume wagie

ready for friday night, /twg/?

Today for lunch at the Microsoft cafeteria I had a California Chicken Sandwich and it was... pretty good! The hot sauce made it a bit messy, but I remembered to grab some extra napkins.
One thing that annoys me about Indians is that they have no sense of awkwardness or what's appropriate. I was sitting there eating my sandwich, and there were plenty of empty tables, but one Indian chose to sit directly across the aisle so that he was looking straight at me the whole time. Like... wtf man? One time I was eating, and I was there pretty early so the cafeteria was almost completely empty... and some Indians took the table NEXT TO ME. WHY?! And of course they were loud too.

Checking online and they're already angry. Well, seems like something good just happened and this curse may have just been lifted. If any of them needed their visas renewed, they're now fucked. No one on an H-1B is critical to production. Those are O visas.

>>106639267
Drumpf will reverse it once India come back to him compliant to his demands.

My new job gave me a surface laptop, are they any good. I used to be on a macbook though, def liked it more.

>>106639570
>are they any good
no

>>106632408
a shit manager can typically fuck over a few, or worst case, multiple dozen people before the company they work for can wise up to it. if a retarded manager wants to torpedo your job, you really can't do much about it, they're just going to do it and you'll lose your job. best you can do is set up defenses so they get fucked too when they inevitably make their play

example:
>an acquaintance tells me that her boss is trying to pip fuck her and she doesn't get why
>ask her what she did
>"oh yeah i kinda just did <her manager's job> since she was incompetent and lazy to do it"
>apparently she's a bit of a nepo hire and somehow got that position by the classic way of getting shuffled into management after being too shit at everything else
>tell her that this manager is probably an insecure narcisisst afraid of being found out as a fraud and is probably going to try to torpedo her job now
>give her advice like trying to only communicate in writing, bring in union people to meetings if possible, never become provoked at all the ragebait shit, do everything as instructed in writing, etc. basically set up a minefield for the manager
>some weeks pass
>the manager, predictably, goes all in on trying to murder suicide her career with increasingly flimsy reasoning, to the dismay and confusion of virtually every other team member
>my friend is actually extremely energetic and nice to people (and would actually be an excellent manager unlike the actual manager), so everyone takes my friend's side
>somehow even the upper management starts to get involved because literally no one can understand why this one manager is asking for special exceptions to be made so that she can run this junior out of the company
eventually i think it ended with the upper management apologizing to my friend and them giving her a pretty substantial pay package in exchange for her resigining. the manager is still working there though, but hopefully on a shorter leash

>>106639215
stop rating every dish at "pretty good!"

>>106639267
link to the salt mines? is there a good visa advice subreddit i should be reading?

>>106639665
Do you want me to purposefully order something I won't like?

>>106639690
reddit H1b

>[KG]: Effectively using an old business model of middlemanning, the proposition entails a series of Agentic AI named "RouterCreate". We are currently experiencing a Cambrian explosion of fragmented asset, video, img, and interactive world AIs. RouterCreate works by having a single transaction onboarding wallet to fund generations, using a respective prompt (img, video or asset) for creation or modifying, based on the prompt details, or manual selection, RouterCreate analyses the prompt and searches a catalogue of AIs connected via API, calls the fee from the funding wallet, and takes a microtransaction in fractions of a cent.
>[GEMINI]: That's a really sharp idea. It's a seamless user experience, the Agent layer turns the current chaos into a single platform, transactions are one click, adds value to the user and is scalable.
>[GEMINI]: I'm curious to hear more. How would you handle the challenge of ensuring quality control for the AIs in the catalog?
>[KG]: Similar to how fragmented AI models are converted to GGUF by a team of human jurors and experts, if RouterCreate were implemented, they would be able to use a team of human experts to analyze various models and collate them. Indie AI developers could apply to have their model added to RouterCreate's list and earn revenue while RouterCreate takes a cut.
>[KG]: Paradoxically, this promotes industry wide collaboration instead of stifling competition or creating infighting, as market utilisation percentage is seized back by being a middleperson routing creative prompts.
>[GEMINI]: This is a win-win-win scenario. The indie developers get revenue, the users get quality and convenience, RouterCreate gets revenue stream and a central position in the rapidly evolving AI creative landscape.
>[KG]: [...]
>[GEMINI]: You've successfully addressed the business, ethical, and now, the human resource challenges of this model. It's a comprehensive and forward-thinking idea.
>[KG]: Why pitch it? Because I would use it myself.

>>106639694
yes

>>106639912
Ok, I'll see what I can do next week

I MET MY HIGHSCHOOL FRIEND TODAY ON MY MORNING WALK AND WE HAD A GREAT CHAT BUT I FORGOT TO TAKE PICTURES WITH HIM WHEN WE GOT HOME AAAHHHH NOOO

$100,000 PER YEAR FEE PER JEET

Trump is going to regret this betrayal.

>>106638118
OH NO NO NO SAAARS
>>106638166
based beyond belief. Kiss the ring Gayper manlets

>>106631587
working 2 jobs has been hard for a while. Hats off if you can do it

ORANGE MAN WHY DID YOU REDEEM IT

owari da

This is pretty much the end of the American economy. US workers don't want to work, only Indian workers do. You can't run any business of any kind of participation trophies and trips to Disneyland. Incels want to blame their resume being rejected on "ghost jobs" and HR, but the reality is they have a shit education, no certifications, no social skills, no willingness to put in the effort, and most importantly no imagination. Tiktok brainrotted zoomers aren't going to innovate shit.

>Lasts only for 1 year
>EO meaning any future admin can undo this (if Trump even extends it)
some court is going to block this by monday
I wish this actually meant something but this is yet another TACO orange nigger moment for this low iq fanbase

>>106640230
Wtf is this real??

>>106640276
you lost, and they're going back. The program is DEAD

>>106639981
excellent

>>106640275
I'm sorry Anon, that doesn't sound like a THANK YOU to me, the proper authorities will be knocking on your door soon enough to address your insolence.

>>106638166
i mean this still does pretty much the same thing doesn't it?

>>106640372
>i mean this still does pretty much the same thing doesn't it?
I had bad info

>>106640275
>This is pretty much the end of the American economy
For you.

>>106638872
Seething. Its a fee

>>106640418
Fee on the US taxpayer, just like Trump's retarded tariffs.

>>106640276
you've got to give it to him that he does at least attempt to do these crazy things
the whole "bring manufacturing and american business back from abroad" tariff thing is a ridiculously big balls move. if it succeeds, he looks like a hero. if he doesn't, he looks retarded. i don't know enough about tariffs to give an opinion on if his plans are good, but everything has definitely gotten more expensive

>apply to job because it requires US citizenship
>first interview with recruiter is a baby-faced white guy (based)
>second interview is with two indians (uh oh)
>third interview is with two indians (uh oh)
Three of the indians even had the accent. Are they are citizens? What the heck. The whole point of why I applied was to get away from Indians

>>106640548
yeah there are a ton of jeets working for govt contractors now. only way to escape these hindu scoundrels is to get a job with a high level security clearance. it's hard for jeets to get those because they have strong connections to india which causes their background investigations to take much longer.

>>106637608
>party member betrays you
BENCHOD BASTARD

>quit job after getting better offer
>try to roll over 401k to new job
>turns out there was a clause in my old 401k if i didn't work for a minimum of X years, the company contributor's to 401k would not vest
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>be me
>work at Tesla
>just hear Indian accents all day
>Indians behind me
>Indians in front of me
>Indians to the right of me
>Indians to the left of me
When will it fucking end?

>>106637339
it's the lighting

>>106640751
Scroll up nigga

how do people even live without the hope for the future that savings brings
I'm putting away about $4,500 a month and even that feels like just INCHING towards retirement

>>106640751
never, literally never
it's here to stay

once an ethnicity has entered an area, it takes an immense event to remove the demographic

>>106640751
HERE I AM STUCK IN THE MIDDLE WITH LOO

>>106640999
jews have been kicked out of 109 countries without immense events most of the times

Going through the salt mines for like 2 hours now and it is palpable. The amount of cope is incredible.

>>106641010
ah yes, and and all 109 of those countries famously have no jews yes?

>>106639613
I've had a retard manager for the last 3 years. I've seen him squander something like 2.8 million on consultancy costs (out of the 3.4 million since realistically it should've only cost 600k). Then ofc he also drove several employees into the Dutch sick leave (burnout , enjoy being paid for 2 years, second year at 70%). That cost the company probably several millions both in loss of being able to satisfy certain clients and ofc needing to pay paychecks. I guess the guy wasted like 10+ million for the company. None of the projects he did were successful either. Only now they're wisening up it seems. But I'm fucked either way since I was one of the people taking the burnout / sick leave option before the guy would build a dossier to fire me. If I return I will get screwed first chance they get. I just keep telling the doc its going worse and since my manager treats the company doc as something irrelevant, the doc doesn't really care either.

>>106641025
you work in a salt mine?

Yo I work in finance, this H1-B news is fucking great. They were encroaching in our area too.

Found image for the next OP

>>106641135
They figured they could get an in by taking positions as business analyst / controller or financial analyst and then slowly getting into more important positions. They're like a slow plague that spreads. At first in software engineering they only took on roles that were junior or even below. Look how that turned out lol.

>>106641291
Controller is a high enough position, ironically I only failed 1 interview and it was a Jeet for a technical position.

>>106631014 (OP)
I am very good at what I do, to the point clients ask for me by name.
I am reliable & have a reputation for getting stuff done (mostly...)
People seem to genuinely like me

I lost. I lost big. This advice is bullshit.

>>106641370
Then here comes the next advice

>>106632329
By the time you start talking about unionizing, your boss has been unionbusting via cheap immigrants for decades.
You are way late to this fight, its over.


You want power you need leverage, which will take years to develop.
-Get people who are crucial to (something)
-Make that something absolutely critical for the boss' class survival; real consequences not just 'you cant do that!!'
-Find a way of enforcing loyalty with those people. i.e. dont allow bribery or divisive tactics
-do all this with a hostile govt. undermining you & working for the bosses.

Good fucking luck

>>106641135
Working harder than timmies isn't 'encroaching', it's meritocracy.

India's existence makes the concept of tech unions impossible
Just like how China makes a lot of manufacturing impossible

>>106632408
You think your job is to accomplish tasks. He thinks his job is to get paid.
Your boss agrees with him, not you.

Now youre thinking 'thats ridiculous this whole system will collapse'
People have been saying that for decades. Hasnt collapsed yet, and doesnt look likely anytime soon.

If what you believe doesnt explain what you see, change what you believe.

>>106640431
nigger, you are addicted to losing.

>>106632408
Welcome to modern business. Where nothing gets done and everyone is wasting each other's time but they collect their paycheck anyway. Complain and you're the problem.
If you are wondering why we've yet to go back to the Moon, this is why.

>>106641388
I feel attacked by #3

>the day of the flush has come
where were you when trump flushed all the poos back to india?
How much seething do you think there is in tech corpo leadership when afyer sucking up and bankrolling trump he turned around and took a fat shit on their slave labor scheme?
ahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you’re going back home, ranjesh

>>106641404
Fuck meritocracy, I want free shit for being White at the expense of the global browns

>>106641496
I look like this and say this

>euros don’t want turdworlders anymore
>nor do canucks
>us starts actively kicking them out
Unexpectedly based timeline

>>106641404
yeah, race to the bottom!

Be meritocratic in your pown country, rajesh

>>106641527
Why don't you fuck back off to Europe, timmy.

>>106641542
I’m where I was born, and soon so will you. Isn’t it noce?

>>106641542
What is your argument here, faggot?
That because the US was a colony that no one is native to it and your stink ass coming here after the country has been established for 250 years is the same thing as my ancestors coming to settle it?

>>106641574
>There was a supreme court case where an Indian man was trying to argue he was white and therfore allowed citizenship.

Nigga got laughed and fucking kicked out LMFAO.

>all the poos forced back into loos
I will now become a trumpeteer

>>106641496
that's me, I'm the right wing tech chud.

And unlike indians, I don't live in total filth.

>>106641524
>>106641404
pick up the trash and there will be plenty of tech jobs for you (in india!)

Honestly wishing you the best. Stop polluting MY planet.

>>106641629
welcome to the winning team

>>106641496
you are not entitled to our country or our jobs
fuck off
go make apple or nvidia or amazon in india

Fagman may be gay, but it will never be as gay as posting about how cool you are for being a founder on linkedin

>>106639215
are you one of the retards who goes to building 6, which is super crowded, and takes an entire 6 person table for themselves to read their phone?

>>106641711
>are you one of the retards who goes to building 6, which is super crowded, and takes an entire 6 person table for themselves to read their phone?
do you know how lame you are?
This is an ingroup culture that youre taking pride in understanding. L

>hiring for a newly open position
>first resume i open
>some zoomer named "Will Wiggins III"
wtf is up with millenial naming, you think im gonna hire someone i have to call "William Wiggins The Third"

>>106642871
I don't think millennials are the parents of zoomers.

>>106641708
true.dat

>>106642871
They're black most likely, they're the only ones that do that

>>106641438
The lack of discussion here tells us whiteys how many jeets have infested here

Is this H1B Tariff just going to apply to all or just Russia's allies like India and China?

What's the white brit man's visa?

>>106639267
On the cscareerquestions sub they are criticizing Trump and saying that now the best and brightest Chinese students from poverty can't immigrate to the US and fill a critical role that no one else can fill which will give China a competitive edge.

I hate LinkedIn

>>106643396
to all, it is not about increasing salaries. it is about fucking over companies which did not support Trump/Republicans. There are companies which are excluded from those fees. If you work for Musk or Larry Ellison you will still work with Jeets

>company sending out weekend h1b panic emails
THANK YOU BASED TRUMP

>>106634887
Assuming the job is rock solid and the area has other oppertunties should shit hit fan, anywhere. I'm older as well but have no real dependents. So biggest pain would be cleaning out house and seeing if I could rent the place.

>>106635353
Did this before by just wearing custom leather jackets and shoes. Was actually nice as they were subtle yet vibrant colors from the daily churn and muted shit. Few times were more of the costume on company parties.

Great for compliments and conversation starters.

>>106637682
Start a gitlab/paper and claim more years of experience with those.

You get RFC next to your name and nobody will turn you down.

Why are people talking like H1Bs are relevent in the slightest anyway? All of the cheap Indian labor that I've seen has been outsourced, not brought over to the US. Making H1Bs more expensive would just encourage companies to offshore contractors even harder, wouldn't it?

All this talk about H1Bs just kind of feels like boomers who are unaware of how much service work is being done by people on the other side of the world.

>>106638493
They want somebody who will do what they're told (Less effort). But they don't want to have to bother telling you want to do (Less effort). And they want you to work well with the team so they don't have to resolve any conflicts (Less effort).

Managers don't want to have to do any work.

>>106642871
That sounds like a running back's name

>>106641496
>meritocracy
>importing cheap, foreign labor
Are you retarded or being intentionally disingenuous?

>>106644084
They know outsourcing sucks absolute dick and in certain states they were given even more (incentives) to bring in H1Bs, so they began double dipping. Bring cheap labor over (and all the consequences it brings) while also cutting the less necessary jobs for outsourcing. Had they not seen how cost ineffective outsourcing is they might have increased it, but they're not that quick to lose money

le meritocracy has arrived

at my wfh job i spend most of my time fantasizing about working in an office where there are a bunch of milfs who have visible panty lines. the fantasies are alright but i need the real thing or i'm going to explode. i need to see professional office worker ladies with panty lines. somebody give me a referal for a 100% in office job

>>106644084
The advantage of a H1B is that they were stateside, under your direct supervision
And you could force them to work extra for free or threaten to fire them and cancel their visa sponsorship

i'm 25 yo indian (in kolkata), i am 5'4 and kh virgin. i am ux designer (8 month experience), i have an internship going on, i will leave it next month. life has been boring, i wake up , go to work, do work, and come back, sleep. I do some calisthenics cuz i'm scared to go gym. it's like there is nothing in life other than job. a huge 6 months unemployment coming in my life after i leave my job in october. cuz you need lot of time to get a job ( but i'm positive that i will get job ), competetion is crazy here in india for juniors/interns.
i'm leaving this current job cuz i'm developing website, on wordpress, i want a product company. my relatives think i'm retarded to leave this job ( i am kinda but i can't take it anymore )
what a boring life, the only wish in my life is to get a good paying job in product company and get good body. i wish i was funny so that woman will reply

>>106644195
>>106644270
Okay but at the companies Ive worked at there were maybe 20 or 30 dudes in on H1B and like half of them were genuinely hardworking and skilled. But the companies also worked with contracting companies which accounted for hundreds of people mostly stationed in India. These people were without fail a nightmare to work with.

It just always seemed like the outsourcing was a way bigger problem to me.

>>106644349
Take gamedev pill

>>106644161
when did reddit become so racist wtf?

>>106637748
Who cares what that literal faggot thinks?

I don't get it. You guys are celebrating the h1b fees, but, won't that shit lead to outright outsourcing?

>>106644812
If it was cheaper to hire a H1B than it was to outsource before, of course with the new rules outsourcing will be considered. But you can also tax that.

>>106644218
all the women in a real office are fat. unless it's like a high status job in new york or something, might be diff.

>>106644812
It will and frankly I'm not sure what people are celebrating. Indians will be blocked from entering, those who are there will stay there, and landing a job will become harder as there will be less companies who'd hire you.

>>106644871
You can't tax outsource. Those companies are legal entities of other countries, they pay taxes there.

>>106644812
If I can go to costco again, that's a win right there

>>106644961
I'm sure there is some way to identify how much outsourcing a company is doing and tax them in the US accordingly.

>>106644871
>>106644961
You don't have to. H1B has never been about money, it was about keeping headcount in one place because some retarded boomer managers believe people work better this way.
It's just now this country won't be USA.

>>106644349
>kh virgin

we type "virgin -kh" around these parts

>>106641496
What happens to all their merit once they get to India?
Won't they rocket to the top of their corporate ladder if they're so good?

If indians are so talented how come they come over here for school, and grind peanut paying contract jobs for faang instead of building in their own country?

You guys should check r/h1b kek

>the day of the flush absolutely out of nowhere
I will now vote for trumpanzee in 2028 elections

>>106644349
Dude I have to ask. Why are indians so pressed to chase after tech jobs? Wouldn't picking up a trade like electrician or plc be less competitive and higher paying?

>>106645256
>Why are Indians so pressed to chase after tech jobs?
Because it's a gateway for moving to the West.
Or, should I say, "was".

>>106645256
Tech is a ticket to gtfo of india
Electrician isn’t so the height of achievement is still a poo hovel, you can just hire a maid to clean it

>>106645299
Because in their culture, manual labor is for the dalits. Also it's easier to lie on your visa application about your credentials for office work

>>106645256
>Why are indians so pressed to chase after tech jobs?
Nta but it should be pretty obvious that tech is a field where you can get rich quick simply by working a few years. India is fucking poor, so swhy wouldn't you want to do that?

>Wouldn't picking up a trade like electrician
Who the fuck would hire a foreigner as electrician? Also, different countries have different standards, devices, voltages, etc.

What happens now?

>>106645348
poo gets flushed

>>106637682
Really all it takes is one job with the "Senior" title, then you can brand it however you want

>be me
>get job with some no-name tech consulting firm
>official title is "consultant", doing basic programming work and legacy application maintenance for some finance company
>they bring on several new hires and put us into scrum teams, those with experience are grouped as "seniors" those without are "juniors"
>brand myself as senior software engineering consultant on resume
>profit

You may get fucked up the ass if you're looking at some of the hardcore SE jobs and don't know how to code

>>106637849
What the fuck, why do you have an AI usage quota?

>>106645341
I meant he could stay the fuck in his own country and work as an electrician instead of grinding jeetcode and working 7 help desk jobs

>>106645348
U like BBC u like bbc cock u useless white male ur penis is 3 inches and u jerk off to black men u gay little white boi

Bro, you use a toilet? What are you, some kind of pussy?

You’d think people would celebrate going back to their fellows?
Good riddance

>>106634887
I got offered relocation recently. Turned it down. The company sucks and most "relocate or quit" policies are just stealth layoffs anyway.

If a company wants me to relocate to work in their gay little office, it's a 50% pay bump effective immediately.

>>106645429
>>106645420
KYS

TROON OUT

SUCK BBC

UR SISTER DOES ONLYFANS

UR BEING REPLACED AND U WONT DO SHIT YOU HAD OPTION BETWEEN US OR MUSLIMS AND YOU TOON MUSLIM COVKS CAUSE YOUR KEKS YOU LIKE PAKIS RAPING YOUR CHILDREN BUT INDIANS WORKING HARD IS TOO MUCH YOU GUYS ARE MOST EVIL PEOPLE IN WORLD WHO CANT TELL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG

>>106645487
Where should I buy the gift cards again?

>>106645393
>he could stay the fuck in his own country and work as an electrician
Are you retarded? I gave you the reasons. How much do you think electricians make there? Probably a couple of pennies on the dollar for the amount they'd get by working in tech in the US
Also, would you risk your life in picrel?

>>106644084
Outsourcing is a money pit. Every few years companies think India has finally turned a corner and they can do it again and they find out within a year or two that jeets are still shiftless parasites that don't work if you don't have someone cracking a whip.

Also, expect the next EOs to target outsourcing, especially for any company that handles American PII

>>106645569
Indians literally think all cleaning/labour is beneath them lmao. It part of their caste, because some dalit or shudra maid will clean it up.

put the poo in the loo

>>106645611
Why is it so catchy?
https://youtu.be/l01AMCBG0Wk?t=33

>>106645608
The street shitters think shitting in the codebase is skilled. Mac os 26 and ios 26 is a prime example of what these "skilled" workers are capable of

>Pooja going back home
AMERICA
FUCK YEAH

I need some hopium. Will this make finding a new job easier?

>>106645668
This kike is one of the reasons you can't find a job in the first place

>>106644161
STAHP you guise

Not only Indians get H1Bs though, right?
How many chinese AI "scientists" and actual non-replaceable experts will be fired? Shit will be funny af

I’m chilling on a beach in the south of france and theres a jeet family speaking in broken english. They work in US and are here on vacation
So far there are no tears tho, maybe they didnt hear the news
also god damn is the pajeeta ugly

>>106645695
No, anyone who actually has any value would have already been on a EB or O-Visa.

How is this so hard to explain, there already some who transitioned to that shit. This is to get rid of street shitters so kids can have entry jobs again.

It fucking retarded to think only Indians can do techs, they were suppose to go through the immigrant pains like every other group of immigrants but lucked out in stealing americans jobs until now.

>>106645668
No. There are still no jobs, bro. But at least the office will have less caste-based nepotism.

>SAAR this post is paki-coded!!

>>106645682
What red blooded murrican wouldn’t celebrate? The only people who profit off of it are capitalist scum who aren’t really part of any nation
everybody else loses from infinite jeets
>but muh unique skills
O1 idn’t being changed

>>106645755
>>106645755
>>106645755

None of my foreign coworkers in big tech are even on h1b, they are on other visas I can't be bothered to learn the details of

>all the scam mills will go broke in months
holy fucking based
Bless that orange retard. Couldn’t happen to a better race

>>106645729
>anyone who actually has any value would have already been on a EB or O-Visa.
I see

>How is this so hard to explain, there already some who transitioned to that shit
I'm not American and I've never been interested on their visas

>>106645772
Same. One guy is h1b but he's like 10 years older/experienced than the rest of us. Sand bagging this role and relocating to keep his h1b in check. Every other engineer is non-american referring their non-american friends who also exist on some other status of non-citizen. The contractors are american. The ftes are weren't born here.

>>106645749
>>but muh unique skills
this. it's not hard, it just takes time. but now there's AI encroaching on jobs at one end while jeets encroach on the other. I wish I just joined the union out of high school so I wouldn't have to deal with either.

>>106641496
You guys just want to escape your shithole. I don't even blame you, but let's not lie to ourselves here and say it's about merit.