Thread 106633725

>>106531650
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)

Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards, tactile feel and quiet + the TrackPoint
>Great durability: magnesium roll cage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>Excellent Linux & *BSD support

ThinkWiki - General info about ThinkPads/specs
https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

Model generations:
>Classic IBM: T40, T41, T42
>IBM/Lenovo Transition: T43, T60, T61 (T42 - T43: significant difference in specs)
>"Classic" Lenovo: T400, T410, T420 (T61 - T400: 4:3 to 16:10)
>Transition to old modern: T430, T440, T450 (T420 - T430: membrane to chiclet)
>Old modern: T460, T470, T480 (T450 - T460: significantly less thick)
>New modern: T490, T14g1, T14g2 (T480 - T490: design change)
>New new modern: T14g3, T14g4, ... (T14g2 - T14g3: second design change)

BIOS replacement:
https://coreboot.org/downloads.html
https://libreboot.org/docs/install/
https://canoeboot.org/docs/install/

Additional resources:
https://dankpads.com/tpg/
https://biosimage.booru.org
https://1vyra.in

Patches:
https://github.com/digmorepaka/thinkpad-firmware-patches
https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec

Chat:
##ibmthinkpad on libera
#/tpg/ on rizon

epoxy on my ram and rom

>>106633820
>voids your warranty

>>106633725 (OP)
GAYBM FagPad

my ThinkPad has a samsung RAM stick and I want to a add another one, however the same model is no longer available, so I checked online and found that crucial (micron) has RAM sticks available for my laptop model (E14 Gen 6), the specs are same - DDR5 5600Mhz CL46, it will work right?

>>106634410
Yes

>>106633632
>And you can coreboot a T60 but not a T61.
However you cannot coreboot a T60 with the ATI video card, only the one with the integrated Intel one.

Im the guy from the previous thread that is on the hunt for a T61. In a random search however, i found a T520 for double digit cost, it has no battery and a decent crack at its shell, however double digit cost so i figured "Fuck it!" and contacted the guy who sells it and im picking it up tomorrow. Im coping that it has an Nvidia GPU but the guy confirmed its on Intel HD instead, the model is 4243F79 but i cant easily find info on it so, give it to me straight, does this model have a dedicated GPU or not?

>>106635282
I thought they changed that a couple of years back and you could get away with it if you inserted the ATI binary blob, but that may have been a rumor.

My Lunar Lake motherboard comes in today

>>106635293
if it makes you feel any better it seems intel hd graphics 3000 is much faster than my T60's X1400 Mobility Radeon

>>106635293
https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/withdrawnbook/ltwbook_2013.pdf#page=420

It's going to be switchable graphics. Which is (or used to be) a lot of voodoo to configure in Linux, but if you're on Windows it won't be an issue.

>>106635417
Dude selling it told me it was an Intel HD 4k instead so he was either mistaken or i dont know what. Oh well, at least im getting a retro machine for basically nothing so its not a total loss and surely Oblivion and Stalker on a WinXP install will run just fine on medium settings????? I also consider splitting it into two partitions, 1 for WinXP and another for Win10 or whatever else to be able to be online if need be. Also also forgot to mention how its on 4GB RAM so its not gonna be too slow on XP but its gonna need an SSD instead of the HDD it comes with, might get a cheap 500GB one.

>>106635463
You sure? I look into the doc and i cant find 4243-F79 specifically and if it helps any, it run on BIOS 8AET55WW 1.35 dated 24/11/2011

the majority of t60's for sale are ATI graphics models. The intel graphics models are kind of rare in comparison. i don't know why this is.

>>106635523
Not 100%. If you had the serial (not just the model#) you might be able to find out.

>>106635523
how are you going to get xp working on it? install plain xp and then manually install all the drivers and shit? or are you going to use a thinkpad recovery disc?

>>106635838
>If you had the serial (not just the model#) you might be able to find out.
I figured as much but i bombarded the guy with questions and if i asked for that too i'd probably piss him off and thought i could go off of the model number alone, gonna really find out tomorrow once i get my hands on it.

>>106635848
If the HDD it has is not the stock one then im probably doing the former which is fine by me honestly, i like setting up PCs from the ground up software wise also, there's bound to be recovery disc ISOs accessable somewhere right? If the model is not XP compatible i can manage on Win7 but i do wish it can do XP for the nostalgia factor.

>>106635924
whatever you do keep in mind the following: 1) old school xp installer does not know about proper ssd alignment. you fix this by partitioning and formatting before running the installer. the installer will use the correctly aligned partition.
2) xp recovery discs for my t60 do the same thing. they do not know about proper ssd alignment. you fix this by doing the recovery, then norton ghosting the whole thing, re-partitioning, and norton ghost the image back into the properly aligned partition. this operation is pretty tricky and there are a lot of little details i am leaving out. but just ask me later if you need more info.

>>106635848
even without thinkpad recovery disc you could just download one of the million circulating windows xp isos with a keygend product key and then install Snappy Driver Installer Origin to autodetect and autodownload all hardware drivers.

>>106636296
well i didn't know about that tool until now, but i have to say i am skeptical of it. i am sure it works great, but it seems like a backdoor waiting to happen.

>>106636339
The program itself is open sors, the driver pack is compiled by some Russians distributed via torrents. Theoretically the drivers are signed so backdoors shouldn't be an issue, though there are ways that system got bypassed even in newer Windows versions. In any case I won't lose sleep if my retro computing installations get some rando backdoor.

>>106636339
>it seems like a backdoor waiting to happen
are you talking about XP or the driver utility?

>>106637169
both :)

Is picom the only compositor on x11? I just might go i3wm with no picom

Why is the Elitebook still so expensive? It's a killer design but is that why? Too bulletproof?

elitebook 8560p
dell e5550
dell e5570

These are all similar on ebay, with the dell e5570 being slightly more expensive.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/809vs2459vs2691/Intel-i5-2520M-vs-Intel-i5-5300U-vs-Intel-i5-6440HQ

dumb question, but I've upgraded the screen on both a T480 and an A485. the screens are the exact same, but backlight seems to react differently. on the T480 for example when brightness is at its lowest, backlight is completely off and I can't see anything on the screen. on the A485 even at its lowest I can still see the screen, it's just dimmer than usual but would be usable in the dark
both machines are running the same distro and same DE. anything I could do so that the A485 could behave like the T480 here?

Someone convince me otherwise to buy pic rel

Stuck in between a P16 Gen 4 AMD with shit AMD dgpu vs shelling out another band for the premium model

thinkbump

>>106638499
>$2600 for a laptop
You should consider if it wouldn't be best to buy one for $1000 like a p14 gen 6 and then a pc with the rest of the money, you can build something nice for $1500

my stuff

>>106643236
>high end new amd processor
>64GB RAM
>T14S
>fedora with kde

where did you get the money for this? is it your work device? nice setup…

>>106643236
are you the rich cucumber swede from ck lol

>>106643236

Moomin!

>>106643236
what are the specs on the other devices? is that ollydbg?

>>106643274
Cucum
>>106643301
The other ones are T14S with intel processors and 16 GB RAM. and yes it is

>>106643236
>3 Thinkpads
are you me

>>106643236
are you working infosec in sweden? any tips on how things work there, it seems fairly hard to break in without having prior experience in other countries, they don’t really care about credentials and certs

>>106643262
it's clearly corporate devices, you can see outlook/teams, and MS edge setup on a corporate profile (on the right laptop), on the left you can also see zoom and okta's icons. swedish remote worker for an american company

>amazon
>ebay
Do I have any other options ordering nu-thinkpads from EU

>>106643918
Poland specifically

used my thinkpad to print some documents just yesterday, but today it wont turn on...
what gives?
Video of the problem:
https://files.catbox.moe/dhltjf.mp4

I need recommendations for something light but work. My shoulder injury caused it hard to carry anything more than 3kg for long periods of time

>>106644421
Used? X270 or T480s, both ~1.4 kg

>>106644421
X13 Gen 6 is incredibly light, under 1kg.

>>106643236
is this who i think it is… show your alien hand please

There she is, i decided to just recovery CD it for the moment, see how it would perform with its factory OS and settings. The cons are 3 so far: 1st, its the crack on its shell shown that is a bit hard to tell from this picture, its not a huge one but i'd definitely need to replace the shell eventually. 2nd is the screen, right there at the bottom right where it looks like its "washed out" its rather distracting at best. 3rd is the keyboard that while it works ok, it seems that it might have seen some abuse as the FN key is stuck pressed but thankfully doesnt mess with anything and also the down arrow is borked and needs to be hard pressed to work. It probably gonna need quite a bit of work to be pristine but hey, 30 bucks computer, its a win still. This recovery process is stuck like this for a good 15-20 mins by the way and i cant tell if its because its on a HDD or that is a USB boot.

so I want the last non shitty thinkpad. is it T480? don't want X series

>>106646410
T480, or A485 if you prefer AMD

>>106646410
2bqh the shittiness started sixteen years ago when they skimped on screen quality everywhere and on the materials of the base 14 inch model

T480 is strictly better than the two models following it, same for T480s, but both are already results of years of decay

>>106646706
at least that generation can still be fixed (modded). especially the screen, there's some really good replacement screens for it. my panel's a 400nits, 1500:1 contrast, low power model, it's amazing

Post more old Thinkpad posters and ads.

>>106638111
most of the supply for used Latitudes, Elitebooks and ThinkPads come from businesses getting rid of their old units. The price differences between them is mostly and indicator of how well each model sold in a respective region.
Sometimes a Latitude is much cheaper than an equivalent ThinkPad and vice versa. Or in my area some X series ThinkPads are much cheaper than T series when it's normally the other way around, or you suddenly see giant lots of a specific L series

>>106647103
*an indicator

>page 11
How?

>>106635385
I got most of my parts today
This is what the mobo looks like.
Sucks that my battery is still in China.