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Anonymous No.106822906 [Report] >>106822920 >>106823053 >>106823169 >>106823693 >>106824477 >>106825862 >>106826212 >>106827483 >>106827783 >>106828140 >>106830172 >>106830260 >>106832311 >>106834797 >>106845437 >>106850142 >>106850666 >>106850995 >>106851041 >>106854251
Keyboard Thread
Why would they do this? I just want a normal fucking full keyboard. I don't want lights, I don't want rainbow, I don't need it to look amazing I just need a full keyboard with nice switches, why is that so hard to find?

Recommend a full size 104 key switched keyboards pls.
Anonymous No.106822920 [Report] >>106822973
>>106822906 (OP)
wait you're saying you were retarded enough to buy this then complain about it?
Anonymous No.106822973 [Report]
>>106822920
yes I was focused on the numpad and other key positions and comparing a half dozen keyboards.
Anonymous No.106823053 [Report] >>106823097
>>106822906 (OP)
>I don't want lights, I don't want rainbow
leave them off?
Anonymous No.106823076 [Report]
Anonymous No.106823078 [Report] >>106823097 >>106824455 >>106825725 >>106844019
>>106814784
Sorry that I missed your post before the last thread died. But if you ever make your way ITT, anon, here's a pic of my board with the MTNU keycaps that you wanted.
Anonymous No.106823096 [Report] >>106824485
does this keyboard exist
>ergonomic split setup
>trackpoint
>compact but has number pad and keys you would want for coding
>easy to travel with
>completely wireless
I will pay any amount of money for this.
Anonymous No.106823097 [Report] >>106823131
>>106823078
commodore 64 aesthetics, nice

>>106823053
meaning idgaf but that's what they highlight. what I need to know is like can I rearrange the editing keys to be correct on this keyboard?
Anonymous No.106823131 [Report]
>>106823097
I mean I can't even tell if it's AI bullshit or they're actually mixed up
Anonymous No.106823169 [Report] >>106823416 >>106824169 >>106824502 >>106825781 >>106837503
>>106822906 (OP)
since when are you ever actually going to use those keys
Anonymous No.106823230 [Report] >>106823440
epomaker th108
Anonymous No.106823416 [Report] >>106825819 >>106835045
>>106823169
pgup and pgdn for reading
home and end when editing or coding
del has a very different function than backspace in blender
ins is for when you accidentally hit ins before
printscreen I use constantly for screenshots both for projects and directions but also just to translate anime or capture something funny. or like for example taking screen shots of fucked up keyboard designs to post on a cambodian intersex web exchange.
Anonymous No.106823440 [Report]
>>106823230
not awful. I kinda wish there was something between jackhammer and mousefart but it looks good.
Anonymous No.106823693 [Report] >>106823723
>>106822906 (OP)
Get a leopold FC900R.
Anonymous No.106823723 [Report] >>106823786 >>106846283
>>106823693
Seconding this if any employed heterosexual males ITT are looking for a good fullsize kb. Had mine for 5 years and it's still going strong.
Anonymous No.106823786 [Report]
>>106823723
Got one as an xmas gift for my mom a while ago, she likes it :)
Anonymous No.106823816 [Report] >>106824051
so buy a fullsize keyboard ???? There are plenty of wired options without RGB for under $200
Anonymous No.106824051 [Report] >>106825985
>>106823816
If you don't need wireless, there's lots of fine options around or under $100 as well, even if you want remapping and hotswap sockets. Most will have RGB, but just turn it off pussy.
Anonymous No.106824169 [Report] >>106824455
>>106823169
I use del all the time, pgUp/Dn when I'm reading a long webpage, Home and End I usually rebind to do something when I'm playing modded Minecraft, I don't think I've ever used insert tho
Anonymous No.106824455 [Report]
>>106824169
NTA but I don't use Insert, Scroll Lock, or Pause, so I'm happy to remap that top trio of keys to volume keys, and moving Print Screen (which I actually DO use) down to where Insert ordinarily is. I do have the original keys mapped as layers in the incredibly unlikely event I need them.
t.
>>106823078
Anonymous No.106824477 [Report] >>106828086
>>106822906 (OP)
have you tried using the internet for this?

>google search: "plain full sized keyboard"
>first result

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c2-wired-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39767325376601&country=US&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&tw_source=google&tw_adid=&tw_campaign=19681081342&tw_kwdid=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19681104649&gbraid=0AAAAABen0LdRTStdws_CtiqpXquTMnWJz&gclid=Cj0KCQjw9JLHBhC-ARIsAK4PhcrY4Qbr-rvYEZ4W1x-xjY0Pmc1-LcFgfoqVq6jjBdD8pwZFKMO2nfcaAs91EALw_wcB
Anonymous No.106824485 [Report]
>>106823096
get a moonlander and mog all your coworkers
Anonymous No.106824502 [Report]
>>106823169
i use them pretty often
Anonymous No.106825189 [Report] >>106825787 >>106825842
Anonymous No.106825725 [Report]
>>106823078
thanks anon. looks good
Anonymous No.106825781 [Report]
>>106823169
I use prt sc for screenshots and scr lk for video capture. insert stops the video capture. home/end/pg up/pg down useful for editing files. I think pause is the only one not used atm but will probably bind it to some commands I usually use.
Anonymous No.106825787 [Report] >>106825968
>>106825189
you've been making a lot of these for a long time. have you ever considered upgrading to more consumer grade materials than 3D printed shit?
Anonymous No.106825819 [Report]
>>106823416
>ins is for when you accidentally hit ins before
This is perfect.
Anonymous No.106825842 [Report] >>106825968
>>106825189
why don't you process you case anon? put some work into it. use some plaster and sanding paper and some fucking paint.
Anonymous No.106825862 [Report] >>106826063 >>106826105 >>106834061 >>106834822 >>106837471 >>106837626 >>106848358
>>106822906 (OP)
ENTER
Anonymous No.106825968 [Report] >>106827054 >>106831758 >>106835234 >>106842190
>>106825787
CNC milled metal cases would be eye-wateringly expensive (a few thousand dollars). Injection molds would be orders of magnitude more expensive than that. There's nothing wrong with 3D printed cases, so why would I bother when the other manufacturing methods would either be far less flexible, far more expensive, or both?
>>106825842
Ask the anon who did that how much of a pain in the ass sanding & painting PLA is. There's no reasonable amount of money I could charge that could justify me doing it. Nevermind that I have some pretty filaments anyway.
Anonymous No.106825985 [Report] >>106831068
>>106824051
eh all the 120 dollar options are now well over 150 due to h1b dons tariffs
Anonymous No.106826063 [Report] >>106832221 >>106838991
Get a Unicomp. If you're not a man enough, then just get >>106825862 and quit whining.
Anonymous No.106826105 [Report] >>106826113
>>106825862
Uniform modifier keys (keys to swap menu and right ctrl), and cheap.
Perfection.
Anonymous No.106826113 [Report]
>>106826105
Keyd* to swap menu and ctrl
Anonymous No.106826150 [Report]
qmk don't support hall effect analog bit? for keychron q series
Anonymous No.106826212 [Report]
>>106822906 (OP)
IBM
MOTHERFUCKING
MODEL
M
Anonymous No.106827054 [Report] >>106830295 >>106833770
>>106825968
Does it really feel much better than a flat split?
Anonymous No.106827483 [Report]
>>106822906 (OP)
so just buy a random microsoft/dell or whatever keyboard, are you retarded?
Anonymous No.106827719 [Report] >>106828110
Are there any guides to mechanical keyboard?
It's really confusing to get started
Anonymous No.106827783 [Report] >>106829123
>>106822906 (OP)
Realforce
Anonymous No.106828086 [Report]
>>106824477
where's the scroll lock button son?
Anonymous No.106828110 [Report]
>>106827719
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Aybs7BIXgVM?feature=share
Anonymous No.106828140 [Report] >>106829144
>>106822906 (OP)
Anon I am a simple man and I bought a Keychron C2 and it's fine I like it and I am happy it cost $40
Anonymous No.106829123 [Report]
>>106827783
If it weren't for their lack of ISO layouts, I would have one by now.
Anonymous No.106829144 [Report]
>>106828140
>$40
>£87 in the UK
loool fuck that
Anonymous No.106830172 [Report] >>106830202 >>106831153 >>106831153 >>106832740
>>106822906 (OP)
In my view, the best solution to the numpad problem is picrel. It uses the NumLock key to switch between the regular keys and number keys. Shame it's not a very good keyboard in other ways.
But if you want an actual full size kb, Keychron makes a few, like the V6.
Anonymous No.106830202 [Report] >>106830848 >>106831197 >>106832552
>>106830172
Hey, i have that board, except ISO and with brown switches & white leds
>Shame it's not a very good keyboard in other ways.
What ways? It prints characters on the screen upon keypress...
Anonymous No.106830260 [Report] >>106853415
>>106822906 (OP)
>Recommend a full size 104 key switched keyboards pls.
Keychron V6 Max for me. Not bought it but wishlisted. Hotswap is a must, I almost killed my current keyboard by washing it with water and soap. Enter still doesn't press reliably. Also radio/USB-C.
Anonymous No.106830295 [Report]
>>106827054
Yea I think so. I tried my old ergodox some time after switching to a dactyl and it felt weird how far the rows were from one another. For what it's worth I wouldn't want to switch back to a flat board.
Anonymous No.106830848 [Report] >>106831711
>>106830202
>What ways? It prints characters on the screen upon keypress...
I still have one too as a backup keyboard. Maybe I worded my post poorly... it's not a bad device, it's just that standards have risen since it was released. For example, I prefer using my Keychron V3, despite the inferior layout, because it's a nicer keyboard in various little ways. The keycap plastic is more pleasant to the touch and more resistant to shine; the stabilizers are tighter; the sound is nicer; the keys move more smoothly.
Anonymous No.106831068 [Report]
>>106825985
Wrong.
Anonymous No.106831153 [Report]
>>106830172
>>106830172
>Realforce
ah but see that's bastardizing the real secondary functions of the keypad with numlock off as pictured. it already duplicates those functions, at least a "correct" one (e.g. the model M)

sorry in advance for being a disgusting pig
Anonymous No.106831189 [Report] >>106832761 >>106837644
I got the Corsair K70 PRO TKL today (Magnetic Hall Effect switches) and I have no idea what is the point of the magnetic thing.
It's infuriating that it is missing the Scroll lock, pause break and print screen cluster and I didn't notice earlier.

Why is it so difficult to get a proper TKL design? the premise is that you dont miss any keys
Anonymous No.106831197 [Report] >>106831711 >>106832834
>>106830202
when you write or program for hours little things like feel and sound matter. faggot shit like lights and fakey blank keys don't. it goes back to navigation too, not taking your hands off the keyboard and yet being able to navigate the text or code is ergonomically superior to reaching out for the mouse like a caveman. it doesn't matter when you're a doomscrolling shitposting kid but when you're doing actual real work those little things add up.
Anonymous No.106831711 [Report]
>>106830848
I see.

>>106831197
Relax, fagmo.
Anonymous No.106831758 [Report] >>106831784
>>106825968
and what about lost wax casting?
Anonymous No.106831784 [Report]
>>106831758
Would have to 3D print the case to create the mold in the first place, at which point I might as well just use the 3D print. Nevermind the other tools & post processing steps required.
Anonymous No.106832221 [Report] >>106832292 >>106834144 >>106835205 >>106851098
>>106826063
sell me on picrel what makes it so good?
Anonymous No.106832292 [Report] >>106832341
>>106832221
Nothing, the factory making them has zero quality control, you legitimately get better fitment and build quality buying a reddragon and swapping out the caps for cheapest PBT doubleshot caps available.
Anonymous No.106832311 [Report]
>>106822906 (OP)
I don't know, man. If you want a full keyboard just get a full keyboard.
Anonymous No.106832341 [Report] >>106832348
>>106832292
why? what's so good about reddragon? is it for gaming only? can long hours codefag benefit?
Anonymous No.106832348 [Report] >>106832354
>>106832341
it's just a cheap brand that's widely available, they're fine, if cheap and plasticky feeling, the price matches the build quality, unicomps are genuinely awful.
Anonymous No.106832354 [Report]
>>106832348
thanks
Anonymous No.106832545 [Report]
anybody know of any good 40% that is actually purchasable?
Anonymous No.106832552 [Report]
>>106830202
The first keyboard I returned on this journey was a red dragon mechanical. The left shift key had no click and only went halfway down. I would rather have bamboo shoved under my fingernails then endure that for more than a minute.
Anonymous No.106832562 [Report] >>106837657
ansi layout is a fucking travesty
iso is where it at
Anonymous No.106832740 [Report] >>106837487
>>106830172
The best solution to the numpad is to move it to the left, if you're right-handed and as such have a mouse on the right. This is quite rare in keyboards, but it's very easily achievable by just buying a regular tenkeyless keyboard and a separate numpad.
Anonymous No.106832761 [Report] >>106832779 >>106837644
>>106831189
>I have no idea what is the point of the magnetic thing
Maybe it's supposed to be more reliable long-term? I don't see why you'd care at all what the actuation mechanism on the switch is, as long as it works reliably for a long time (and mechanical switches already seem to do that).
Anonymous No.106832779 [Report] >>106832819
>>106832761
this is definitely a thing in scroll wheels and joycons. magnetic last forever mechanical lead to sticky/reverse wheel and stick drift in short order. I've never had mechanical keys wear out or fail, even after the letters wear off so idk if it's really worthwhile on key switches.
Anonymous No.106832796 [Report] >>106833096 >>106836266 >>106838736 >>106839528
This guy finally came in
Actually kinda disappointed by it
Its solid af and the popcorn popping type sound is nice

But the typing angle is so damn steep
Anonymous No.106832819 [Report] >>106837603
>>106832779
I don't even know of any scroll wheel designs which aren't optical. I guess there might be some out there but I was under the impression that optical detection on scroll wheels was standard (which still stops working eventually due to dust & gunk building up in the slots the light passes through).

With analog sticks the problem is a bit different I believe. The "standard" design there is to just use potentiometers there, so you have a contact point sliding across some resistive surface, in order to read the voltage change which results from different positions. This can obviously wear out eventually. Keyboard switches though are far simpler usually, I mean typical mechanical switches just require 2 pieces of metal to touch, reliability isn't often a concern, at least not in my experience.
Anonymous No.106832834 [Report] >>106832852 >>106832860
>>106831197
Actually, it doesn't matter at all and those little things add up to nothing in reality. Nobody has ever missed a deadline or been unable to finish a programming task because of their keyboard. Ergonomics only matter to people with weak genetics, it's irrelevant unless you are born weak.
Anonymous No.106832852 [Report] >>106832866
>>106832834
So sayeth the stupid who care nothing for efficiency.
Anonymous No.106832860 [Report]
>>106832834
Let me guess, you consider "enjoying your work" weak too
Anonymous No.106832866 [Report] >>106832886 >>106832914 >>106832949
>>106832852
productive people aren't limited by their keyboard or even their typing speed, a 100 wpm typist is not able to compose prose at the same speed.
Anonymous No.106832886 [Report]
>>106832866
dunning-krueger much?
Anonymous No.106832914 [Report]
>>106832866
You're clearly not as productive as you think if you haven't been limited by a sub-par keyboard.
Anonymous No.106832949 [Report]
>>106832866
this post just made me want to use carpalx or colemak with a passion
Anonymous No.106832969 [Report] >>106833058
>spent all afternoon looking at keyboards and keycap sets again
i only have one computer
I don't even dislike my current keyboard
Why don't they sell individual keycaps, I just want a PBT cherry escape or enter key in this color
Anonymous No.106833058 [Report]
>>106832969
Anonymous No.106833096 [Report] >>106834036 >>106852049
>>106832796
Anonymous No.106833144 [Report] >>106837578
>Split ergonomic design
>100% keys
>Future proof HE/TMR switches
>Trackball either included or can fit nicely in the middle
>Programmable without proprietary garbage software
Does this keyboard exist?
Anonymous No.106833396 [Report] >>106833408 >>106833453 >>106839528
My new troon-sized keyboard I put together today.

To the anon who recommended Swagkey Knight V4 stabs, if he's here, I'll agree they're very good—with the caveat that he did a little overstate how good they are. I used some C3Equalz pads underneath because I decided to do a build with my Lichix silent switches to see if I could get away with it this time, and I think I did. At first I tried without the pads and the stabs slammed into the PCB (same as Cherry), so that wasn't going to work for a silent build. This was my first time using this and it helped a lot: https://swagkeys.com/products/c-equalz-stabilizers-soulmate (only used pieces 1 and 3)

I'm probably going to use those on all my builds from now on.

I did have to fill the stabs up with superlube like I would with Cherry clip-ins, but these are still a bit nicer, with a thicker wire that's properly straight and doesn't touch the PCB, no need to clip off any bottom feet, and the clear plastic makes it easier to see lube inside. A genuine improvement I think, but it doesn't solve the stab problem in general.

Hard to say whether this would sound good with normal switches, but I suspect that it would. The Lichix silent is not totally silent, you can still hear the character of the board a little bit. Still waiting for the battery to arrive from China, so can't say anything about the bluetooth performance.

Overall I'm happy with this little board. Also the reason left shift looks a little fucked up in the image is that it wasn't quite all the way down on the stabilizer. I checked just now while looking at the image. Oops.

Final build:
Cannonkeys Photon, recommended 8 gasket config (4 above, 4 below) with the lower-left cut in half so it's not too close to the spacebar
Lichix Raw Silent big-bump tactile (stock)
Swagkeys Knight V4 Stabilizers with 0.2mm C3Equalz foam pad underneath the stem, stems and housing contact lubed with 205g0 and otherwise filled with Super Lube 21010
XMI dye-sub keycaps (L9 Apple)
Anonymous No.106833408 [Report]
>>106833396
>mac
Anonymous No.106833453 [Report] >>106833992
>>106833396
very ugly, why did you do it?
Anonymous No.106833770 [Report]
>>106827054
imo no, I prefer flat with tenting
the angled thumb cluster is better than a flat thumb cluster thoughbeit
Anonymous No.106833992 [Report]
>>106833453
post keyboard
Anonymous No.106834036 [Report]
>>106833096
Yes the typing angle is so steep on this thing there is a sheer cliff fall off on the number row

Absolutely disappointed
Anonymous No.106834061 [Report] >>106834672
>>106825862
May as well pair with the 1000 dpi beast m90 mouse to complete the combo.
Anonymous No.106834066 [Report]
I miss WASD Keyboards (the manufacturer)
Anonymous No.106834144 [Report]
>>106832221
It is so obnoxiously loud that you won't be invited to any zoom meetings anymore.
Anonymous No.106834672 [Report]
>>106834061
>1000dpi
My default DPI for just regular use is 4800, do people really use such low DPIs?
Anonymous No.106834765 [Report] >>106834942
Hi everyone. I'm looking for a TKL-style mechanical keyboard (no number pad) with Red switches for gaming. I'm a beginner so I'd like to spend less than 100 USD. Any recommendations?
Anonymous No.106834797 [Report]
>>106822906 (OP)
keyboards peaked with Logitech K120, everything has been overpriced slop since.
Anonymous No.106834822 [Report]
>>106825862
unironically the best keyboard to ever exist
Anonymous No.106834942 [Report] >>106835183 >>106835518 >>106839590
>>106834765
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/filco-majestouch-2sc-tkl
Solid board with Cherry MX Reds, not mystery China special cherry clones that might die in a year. On sale for peanuts because people didn't dig the colorway and it's not hotswap or whatever, doesn't sound like it's full of foam, has rattly costar stabilizers (which are basically fine), and isn't configurable with VIA/etc. If those downsides don't matter to you, it's a good deal.
Anonymous No.106835045 [Report]
>>106823416
>cambodian intersex web exchange
Anonymous No.106835124 [Report]
1 hour of Boswell's life of Johnson, approx. 3000 words, using my left thumb (which I never use) for space... I hope this pain means I'm becoming a better typist
Anonymous No.106835183 [Report] >>106835210
>>106834942
I wanted to get it since it seems to be the only solid option available to EUfags but I was wondering if their quality went to crap as it has with Das and Ducky or if it's just as good as it was 10-15 years ago, back when mechanicals used to last at least 10 years. I even consider those downsides to be a bonus (except VIA but it's not a big deal).
Anonymous No.106835205 [Report]
>>106832221
>what makes it so good?
buglin sprangs. feels good, sounds good, will most likely outlive you. made in USA.
Anonymous No.106835210 [Report] >>106835298
>>106835183
EU? I suspect the shipping cost will be awful.

What happened to Das and Ducky? Only thing I ever heard about Daskeyboard is that they're no longer popular because they're rather expensive for a tray-mount soldered board with cheap abs caps etc. But that's what they always were.
Anonymous No.106835234 [Report] >>106835373
>>106825968
why not cnc milled wood?
Anonymous No.106835242 [Report] >>106835264
What switches can I get that are most similar to buckling spring?
Anonymous No.106835264 [Report]
>>106835242
beam springs
Anonymous No.106835298 [Report] >>106835334 >>106835366
>>106835210
There's a website that sells the filco majestouch 2sc for us eufags too:
https://www.keyboardco.com/product.asp?PRODUCT=2703
This is the tenkeyless version but they also have it in full size.

>What happened to Das and Ducky? Only thing I ever heard about Daskeyboard is that they're no longer popular because they're rather expensive for a tray-mount soldered board with cheap abs caps etc. But that's what they always were.
What you said (Filco's switched to PBT which is good) plus lower QC (e.g. chattering and dead switches) from what I've seen and Ducky has jumped on the tranny consumerist meme tech bandwagon. Wireless, hotswap, gay keycaps, etc.

The industry QC issue is what pisses me off because not only is it almost impossible to find good autistic teardown reviews on keyboards in the sea of thocc obsessed reductionist consumerist tards (see webm), but QC is so random that even if you find a good model that's solidly built and order it, you may get chinked nonetheless. Like failing a dice roll.


Another decent option I found was keychron but their QC and internal design is so bad that at some point the plate was acting as a crowbar, prying the switches off the board. You know, typical shenanigans that occur once any industry has gained a stranglehold on unthinking reductionist-consumerist NPCs who think any product is a black box that just werks.
Anonymous No.106835334 [Report] >>106835356
>>106835298
>at some point the plate was acting as a crowbar, prying the switches off the board
Which board was this? Most of their boards now have standoffs installed to prevent the switches pulling out of the hotswap sockets, and their old boards were tray-mount.

Even without those standoffs I'm struggling to imagine how this could have happened due to faulty design—but I'm sure it could.
Anonymous No.106835356 [Report] >>106835367
>>106835334
https://keychronsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/33474131840663-Fixing-Keyboard-Keys-That-Require-Extra-Force-or-Multiple-Presses
https://www.techpowerup.com/339280/keychron-explains-recent-q-max-and-v-max-issues-apparent-manufacturing-defects-caused-loose-switches
>In the post and an article linked in the post, Keychron explains that the input issues were being caused by the switch plate becoming warped and essentially pushing the switches out of the hot-swap sockets. This causes intermittent contact with the hot-swap sockets, and could result in keys not registering or multiple inputs registering on every key press. To correct this issue, Keychron is advising owners who experience these issues to take their keyboards apart and reseat all of the switches firmly in the PCB sockets by pressing the plate and PCB assembly firmly between their hands with the switches installed. If issues continue, the brand recommends disassembling the keyboard entirely, inspecting the plate for warping, and carefully straightening it manually. Keychron says that, beyond the recommended fixes mentioned in the article, it is also handling individual customer reports on a case-by-case basis, although this approach and the corrective steps do not seem to be sitting well with the community and the brand's customer base.

In their words:
>If some keys on your Q Max or V Max keyboard require multiple presses or extra force to work, it is likely due to the plate being slightly bent or deformed over time, preventing the switch pins from making full contact with the PCB when pressed.
Anonymous No.106835366 [Report] >>106853222
>>106835298
>plate was acting as a crowbar, prying the switches off the board. You know, typical shenanigans
Typical shennanigans for the adhd transvestite zoomer consoomer who absolutely needs (no mom you don't understand) the switches to be removable in the first place.
Anonymous No.106835367 [Report]
>>106835356
Weird. Has anyone posted pics of a warped plate?
Anonymous No.106835373 [Report]
>>106835234
The machine time is what makes CNC expensive, not really the material of choice.
Anonymous No.106835518 [Report] >>106835616 >>106842727
>>106834942
love my cherry red filco clone board (ganss gs87), even after 8 years it's still solid
I would buy another costar stab keyboard but I already spent enough time tuning the rattly stab wires to not rub on thick aftermarket keycaps, I don't wanna do that ever again.
Anonymous No.106835616 [Report]
>>106835518
Modpilled. Just replace the stabs with CNC wood or pay Mr. Chinky to do it.
Anonymous No.106835623 [Report]
Am I the only ESL diapercuck anon here who pronounces Majestouch as
>majes tooch
?
Anonymous No.106836197 [Report] >>106840699
Can't believe it took me this long to not have gotten a Wooting keyboard much sooner. I adore this fucking 80he so much.
Anonymous No.106836266 [Report] >>106837371 >>106839291
>>106832796
Trade your keyboard and that rat in for some taste.
Anonymous No.106837371 [Report] >>106837522
>>106836266
>2025
>not supporting trans rights
Anonymous No.106837471 [Report]
>>106825862
>doesn't have function key
It's shit
Anonymous No.106837487 [Report]
>>106832740
This isn't a solution if the numpad isn't for left hands retard
Anonymous No.106837503 [Report] >>106837538 >>106837581
>>106823169
Are you shitting me? How do you live without PgUp/PgDown Home/End?

How do you navigate documents and web pages? You reach for your fucking mouse every single time?
How do you quickly move a cursor when editing text? Do you press the arrow keys until it reaches the beginning/end of the line?
Anonymous No.106837522 [Report]
>>106837371
I thought the whole trannie shtick was going after man/woman not male/female
Anonymous No.106837538 [Report] >>106837660
>>106837503
>Home/End
You use ctrl+arrows
>PgUp/PgDown
They assign them to a function layer or something
Anonymous No.106837578 [Report]
>>106833144
>TMR
this sounds nice but doubt anyone can make use of the extra resolution, apart from a few nature freaks. the real benefit to TMR, which isn't used in first keychrons (that I noticed) is compatibility with classical switches, since the chips have to be on the side not under the switch, so makes room for the hole to install classical switches as well. but apart from this I'd go hall effect.
QMK doesn't support HE/TMR as far as I know, as in the analog functionality. yet.
Anonymous No.106837581 [Report] >>106837660
>>106837503
NTA, Home/End are absolutely essential, but I never use PgUp/PgDn. If the line I want to modify is so far I won't get there fast by up/down arrows, it's faster to go to line directly, search its content, navigate through outline etc.
Anonymous No.106837603 [Report]
>>106832819
there's the electromagnetic logitech scroll wheel, dunno how it's read, but has that magnetic feedback thing.
as far as magnetic switches go there's a sensor that detects magnet position, which is in the sliding part of the switch. so the only wear is on the innards of the plastic switch case. the chip under the switch detects the magnetic field of the magnet, so nothing to wear out. apart from the detector chip itself burning out for random reasons.
Anonymous No.106837626 [Report]
>>106825862
I have the better microsoft brand version of this with hotkeys and multifunction f#s etc but the palmrest clips broke in transit when i moved.
Anyway i was looking at new keyboards and i couldnt believe none of them have palmrests anymore. Is everyone just suiciding their tendons these days?
Anonymous No.106837644 [Report]
>>106831189
the point is that there's no on/off contact. the detector chip under the switch detects how far the magnet in the switch is. so it can detect the whole pressing range, not just on/off. the chip knows if the switch is pressed 10% or 24% or 78% of the way. that allows for a whole new suite of applications.
imagine each of your keys is like a controller joystick. press it a bit and you walk in game, press it some more and you start running.
you should be able to configure some keys as controller joysticks, in their software. you can with Keychron software. you can map wasd as left controller joystick for example.
see this: https://youtu.be/eblmS6pRs7g?t=1103
>>106832761
there's no electric contact being made, it's a chip that detects the magnetic field of the magnet in the switch going down towards it.
Anonymous No.106837657 [Report]
>>106832562
this. also one extra switch
Anonymous No.106837660 [Report]
>>106837538
>They assign them to a function layer or something
Sure, I use them on a function layer too.
But I felt they were saying that they don't use them at all.

>>106837581
>I never use PgUp/PgDn
I find them absolutely necessary. Not as much as Home/End, but I use them all the time on documents, web pages and console navigation.
Anonymous No.106838198 [Report] >>106838226
I assume you don't know where can I buy a spare glorious mobo or download PCB schematics for repair, right?
Anonymous No.106838226 [Report] >>106838330
>>106838198
who needs keyb schematics lmao. that shit simple
Anonymous No.106838330 [Report] >>106838368
>>106838226
Ok and how am I supposed to figure out why my kb died and what's wrong with it and how to repair?
Anonymous No.106838368 [Report] >>106838387
>>106838330
>thou shalt measure the voltage rails
basic rule. see if power goes to various chips. look the chip code online, get datasheets, see where their power pins are, tho it should be simple to figure out based on close-by ceramic caps. you should have 5V and 3.3V and in some rarer cases maybe 1.8V tho I doubt they use such low voltage devices.
check output of local buck converters, or linear ones. check clocks if you have a logic analyzer, check data lines. check diodes, check trace continuity etc.
Anonymous No.106838387 [Report] >>106838407
>>106838368
I have terrible ogre hands and I have no idea how to do any of that.
Anonymous No.106838407 [Report] >>106838419
>>106838387
why you trying to repair then?
visually inspect for solder joint cracks. do continuity testing on ceramic caps without power to keyboard, maybe one shorted some power rail. wtf
Anonymous No.106838419 [Report]
>>106838407
That's the weird thing, there are no visible damage marks on anywhere on the pcb.
Anonymous No.106838736 [Report]
>>106832796
Cute doggy anon :3
Anonymous No.106838991 [Report] >>106839092
>>106826063
Bro, if you're gonna get one of these, it's gotta be picrel...
Anonymous No.106839092 [Report] >>106839120 >>106840183 >>106841283
>>106838991
Unfrotunately, they are now a fucking whopping $189
Anonymous No.106839120 [Report] >>106839130
>>106839092
if you pay more than $100 for plastic case classic mechanical switches keyboard you got scammed
Anonymous No.106839130 [Report]
>>106839120
>if you pay more than $[arbitrary low number] for [not the thing you posted], you got scammed
Some of you just like to hear yourselves talk
Anonymous No.106839291 [Report]
>>106836266
Anon your model m keyboard isn't nearly as tasteful as you think it is
>>10683819
Glorious has notoriously shitty pcbs that only last 3 years somehow and they do not sell new ones. Don't bother trying to repair it. (Though you should make sure its not a switch problem, their panda switchs have an even shorter shelf life than their pcb)
Anonymous No.106839528 [Report]
>>106832796
The front height on that thing looks tall. I like a steep typing angle but too tall in the front would bug me. I wonder if the butterfly leaf spring required some extra height.

One of my favourite things about my new board >>106833396 is that it's very low in the front. Front height measurements are never apples-to-apples but Cannonkeys lists the Photon at 15.6mm and Evoworks says theirs is 19.3mm.
Anonymous No.106839590 [Report]
>>106834942
Thanks for the recommendation! That one looks just fine for me.
Anonymous No.106839669 [Report] >>106840014
southpaw numpad should be standard
Anonymous No.106839923 [Report] >>106840667
Mmmmm tasty
Anonymous No.106840014 [Report] >>106840444
>>106839669
>southpaw numpad
What?
Anonymous No.106840183 [Report] >>106840533
>>106839092
how the fuck do they justify those crooked legends and sloppy key moldings and mile wide gaps in the case
Anonymous No.106840444 [Report] >>106840469
>>106840014
I have a board with a southpaw numpad, and I hate it (the southpaw numpad, not the keyboard)
Anonymous No.106840448 [Report] >>106840667
Talk me out of getting an all-transparent keyboard, are they sufficiently dustproof so I won't have to take it apart to clean it often?
Anonymous No.106840469 [Report] >>106840533 >>106840557
>>106840444
You still haven't explained what southpaw is.
Anonymous No.106840533 [Report] >>106840552
>>106840183
"you just don't get it". it's all nonsense
>>106840469
numpad on the left what the fuck
Anonymous No.106840552 [Report]
>>106840533
How do you expect5 to like a numpad on the left if it's designed3d for right handed use?
Anonymous No.106840557 [Report] >>106840657
>>106840469
>you
I'm not the guy you're replying to. If you looked at the pic you'd figure it out though lol
Anonymous No.106840657 [Report] >>106840733
>>106840557
>SOUTHPaw
>is on the east
Retard
Anonymous No.106840667 [Report] >>106840743
>>106840448
See >>106839923
Anonymous No.106840699 [Report]
>>106836197
>missing Home and End
Imagine paying over 200£ for cut corners
Anonymous No.106840733 [Report] >>106840821
>>106840657
Southpaw is a term older than your grandpa. It refers to left-handedness or left-handed people. So numpad on the left is southpaw.
Anonymous No.106840743 [Report] >>106840839
>>106840667
who the fuck eats at their computer and especially while typing
Anonymous No.106840821 [Report] >>106840902
>>106840733
>Southpaw is a term older than your grandpa
The fuck should I care how retarded boomoids talk
Anonymous No.106840839 [Report]
>>106840743
Everyone
Anonymous No.106840902 [Report] >>106840958
>>106840821
Speak a different language than english then, and fuck off from here.
Anonymous No.106840958 [Report] >>106840964
>>106840902
Learn where the south is retarf
Anonymous No.106840964 [Report] >>106841035
>>106840958
It's up your ass, faggot.
Anonymous No.106841035 [Report] >>106841073
>>106840964
I accept your concession
Anonymous No.106841073 [Report] >>106841099
>>106841035
I accept that you don't understand the language you (barely) type.
Anonymous No.106841099 [Report] >>106841110
>>106841073
>you (barely) type.
Name 3 mistakes I made retard
Anonymous No.106841110 [Report] >>106841128
>>106841099
I'll name one bigger mistake instead; you being born.
Anonymous No.106841128 [Report] >>106841147
>>106841110
I accept your concession
Anonymous No.106841147 [Report] >>106841176
>>106841128
I accept that you don't disagree that you being born was a mistake.
Anonymous No.106841176 [Report]
>>106841147
>that you that you
Yawn
Anonymous No.106841187 [Report]
get a room faggots
Anonymous No.106841283 [Report]
>>106839092
>alt gr and super swapped
wtf is this
Anonymous No.106841615 [Report] >>106842203
Lads, gf wants a white keyboard with a numpad but also is good for typing (office work), a la Cherry Browns. Any good recommendations? Not looking to break the bank.
Anonymous No.106841891 [Report] >>106842095 >>106842312
> buy minimal keyboard
> looks good
> sounds good
> so small, no F keys, no number keys
> type super fast
> have to type in a password for work
> it has special characters
> I now have a little piece of paper where i noted what Fn+shift+alt+letter gives me backspace, underscores and squiggily parentheses.
> cry
> get real keyboard with rubber domes instead.
Anonymous No.106842095 [Report]
>>106841891
Maybe you should have done more research before impulse buying something that doesn't fit your use case.
Anonymous No.106842190 [Report] >>106842213 >>106842768 >>106850952
>>106825968
I sanded and painted mine and yes, it was an enormous time-sink and still doesn't look great. I was worried about debris like skin flakes and skin oil getting gunked up in the layer lines. Can anybody explain why people are so particular about case materials and weight? It is almost impossible to touch the actual case while typing and weight doesn't seem to make any actual difference. Is it just a case of people going autistic mode about shift that doesn't make a measurable difference? Like I get using an alternative keyboard is already nerdy as fuck, but I never understood people who spend lots of money to have keyboards that are almost exactly same besides some barely perceptible noise difference. Seems like some autistic hyper-sensitivity shit to me
Anonymous No.106842203 [Report]
>>106841615
There's a white & grey leopold FC900R, look into that. I'm sure there are other 100% white boards that are hotswap too, so you don't have to settle for cherry switches.
Anonymous No.106842213 [Report] >>106854291
>>106842190
>Can anybody explain why people are so particular about case materials and weight?
Monke brain think heavy=expensive=good. That's really it.
Anonymous No.106842312 [Report]
>>106841891
Don't know if this is a reall story
Anonymous No.106842727 [Report] >>106845148
>>106835518
I'm happy for you but a little confused by the case/keycap combo
Anonymous No.106842768 [Report]
>>106842190
you should have used filler to hide the layer lines. sanding doesn't do much by itself, at most for cleaning overhangs and shit
Anonymous No.106843152 [Report] >>106846171 >>106847293 >>106847409
My ideal switch, if I could make anything I wanted, would be a hall effect with a Gateron Lanes-style suppressed click leaf, relatively light short spring so it's not overly tactile, and with gateron zero degree style dampening at the top and bottom of the stroke, not to make it silent, just semi-silent like a Lichix. I would like something like that.
Anonymous No.106844019 [Report]
>>106823078
Remove the accents and it will look even better.
Anonymous No.106844273 [Report]
Has the Aliexpress user interface for looking at individual stores' offerings started malfunctioning recently for anyone else? I used to be able to view specific categories of products from e.g. Keebox or KPRepublic or YMDK, now those menus are broken for me.
Anonymous No.106844417 [Report] >>106851030
Sometimes I like to look through the Chinese keyboard stores and imagine how much fun it would be to be Chinese with Chinese aesthetic sensibilities. Look at this and imagine how it would make you feel if you were Chinese
Anonymous No.106845148 [Report]
>>106842727
what color should the case be in your opinion?
Anonymous No.106845310 [Report] >>106847648
So as I know nothing at all about mechanical keyboards and I want to get a 100% mech keyboard that's durable (Currently using Corsair K65 since 2018 that's still having 0 problem). Are these true?
>Cherry MX > Gateron for switches
>Non-hotswappable is more durable
>Hall Effect is more durable
Anonymous No.106845437 [Report] >>106845445 >>106846003 >>106846266
>>106822906 (OP)
I got a Keychron V1 since I wanted to have my mouse closer to the keyboard and found the numpad to be mostly unused by me.
But I underestimated how annoying it is to not have the full navigation cluster when programming. The knob is nice to have for music play/pause and volume, but having to use the fn key to get End or Insert really sucks.
Should have gotten a TKL instead.

Also after about a year or so some keys started misbehaving, like registering twice or not at all instead of once (might have to take off the caps and clean the switches though, cause that did seem to help with one of the keys).

Kinda considering getting a V3 (Max), but maybe there's something better for the price? I really like the look of the Keychron V series though.
Anonymous No.106845445 [Report] >>106846214
>>106845437
Forgot pic
Anonymous No.106846003 [Report]
>>106845437
What is the use for insert?
Anonymous No.106846171 [Report] >>106847262
>>106843152
hall effect and tactile aren't the best use for them. you have less control with the bump. once it slips you lose control, so you get less range than with linear. top to bump the rest is useless, apart from bottom out position. but could still be more useful than with classic switches
Anonymous No.106846214 [Report]
>>106845445
for me that's the best compact layout. you still have F keys and spacing between between them, and arrows. you lose two keys vs TKL. if you go ISO you get one back.
Anonymous No.106846266 [Report]
>>106845437
>V3 (Max)
ok the V3 has three extra keys upper right. but I still would wait until hall effect switches comes to V series
Anonymous No.106846283 [Report]
>>106823723
This is a $124 keyboard that looks and does the same fucking thing as a 20 year old Dell branded keyboard.
Spend some money and get a New Model M and never buy another keyboard in your life.
Anonymous No.106847262 [Report] >>106847293
>>106846171
I'm scratching my head trying to figure out wtf you're saying here. Is this about the adjustable actuation point/"analog input" nonsense? Because I don't give a shit about those "features" at all
sage No.106847293 [Report] >>106847369
>>106847262
>I'm scratching my head trying to figure out wtf you're saying here
typical clueless behavior
>Is this about the adjustable actuation point/"analog input" nonsense? Because I don't give a shit about those "features" at all
but
>>106843152
>My ideal switch, if I could make anything I wanted, would be a hall effect
like mf what for? just because it's $latest_thing without thinking about what it even fucking does?
the whole advantage of these switches is the ability to detect HOW MUCH it has been pressed, which isn't as useful on tactile switches, since you do not have control over the whole range of the switch. yeah it could be useful for some stuff, but for gaming that's out of the question for joystick analog function
Anonymous No.106847369 [Report] >>106848318
>>106847293
you're a fucking idiot lol. do you think the US military uses hall effect switches because it allows analog input and rappy snappy gamer meme shit? No, they use it because it doesn't rely on an electrical contact point subject to potential contact bounce and inevitable failure
Anonymous No.106847409 [Report]
>>106843152
I wonder if the magnet would interfere with the click leaf in any way. Those little things on the melodic are so tiny and insubstantial, it's easy to lose them if you're not careful reassembling the switch etc
Anonymous No.106847437 [Report] >>106847446 >>106847462
Why am I still so bad at touch typing holy shit.
Anonymous No.106847446 [Report] >>106847462
>>106847437
emergency 3000 word monkeytype session
Anonymous No.106847462 [Report] >>106847571 >>106849234
>>106847446
>>106847437
copy first 3000 words into a custom monkeytype, no stopping until you finish:
https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/3330/pg3330.txt
Anonymous No.106847571 [Report] >>106847877
>>106847462
on second thought, look for a more readable translation, like D. C. Lau's
Anonymous No.106847648 [Report] >>106848027 >>106848340
>>106845310
>Non-hotswappable is more durable
It's adding a potential point of failure, so it's less of a sure thing. But I'm not sure whether the *median* hotswap board has a shorter life expectancy.

>Cherry MX > Gateron for switches
Not necessarily. Gateron has a much wider variety of offerings, and some of their switches have a very high-end feel which Cherry can't match—Cherry switches aren't known for, e.g., smoothness. Some will maintain that Cherry has been surpassed, and they're not basing that on nothing. But Cherry switches are reliable and they have a unique sound, so they remain some people's idea of a top-tier switch.

I'd take Cherry MX over, for example, "Gateron Jupiter" switches, which seem to me to have loose tolerances and a bad lube job that makes them feel sluggish. Also Gateron tactile switches have had some complaints about contact bounce recently. But I'd happily use switches like the Gateron X or the Gateron Melodic.

>Hall Effect is more durable
In all likelihood yes. It remains to be proven in practice—the particular new boards that use them I mean, not the technology itself—but there's every reason to believe that it will last longer, because it does not have a contact point that can wear down, which is the usual point of failure for mechanical switches.
Anonymous No.106847812 [Report] >>106848330
If I am in the market for a 150~200 USD keyboard, there is no reason for me to not get one with magnetic switches, right. Looking at the Keychron K HE series at the moment.
Anonymous No.106847877 [Report]
>>106847571
Alright.
Anonymous No.106848027 [Report]
>>106847648
Very useful, thanks for your input anon
Anonymous No.106848318 [Report] >>106849400
>>106847369
why would I get a switch that us military uses? wtf. I want for gaems
Anonymous No.106848330 [Report] >>106849505
>>106847812
Q HE series also exist, and also Lemokey HE series. sometimes you can find deals for Q HE under $200
Anonymous No.106848340 [Report]
>>106847648
the only failure point for hall effect is the sensing chip. I don't see how the switch itself can fail. apart from magnet falling out or something like that. but the chip can burn out
Anonymous No.106848358 [Report]
>>106825862
I have it. The caps lock key isn't working anymore, so gonna have to get a new one. It worked for quite a few years before that, despite suffering massive abuse
Anonymous No.106849234 [Report] >>106849449
>>106847462
>no stopping until you finish
That isnguaranteed to fuck up his tendons
Anonymous No.106849400 [Report] >>106850963
>>106848318
It's MY ideal switch, so I get to decide if your 'gamer features' matter to me (they don't)
Anonymous No.106849449 [Report] >>106849462 >>106849477
>>106849234
Do I really have to add the caveat "unless you can feel that you are injuring yourself" in case he's retarded? I mean don't stop out of boredom. Take small breaks when you feel the necessity of doing so.

I regularly do 2 hour sessions with a couple of 5-minute breaks minimal breaks and my tendons are fine.
Anonymous No.106849462 [Report]
>>106849449
one of these days I need to start properly proofreading my posts any time I make an edit
Anonymous No.106849477 [Report] >>106850133 >>106850848
>>106849449
>Take small breaks
You said "no stopping"
>I regularly do 2 hour sessions
If I go over 5 minutes the tendons at my elbow start hurting
Anonymous No.106849505 [Report]
>>106848330
Oh that's true, thanks for the suggestions!
Anonymous No.106850133 [Report] >>106851422
>>106849477
I feel like you're asking me to repeat myself, because the answer to your objection is contained in the first two sentencs of the post you're replying to.
Anonymous No.106850142 [Report]
>>106822906 (OP)
Currently interested in one of those keychron 80% keyboards for portability. How good are those slim/half-height switches?
Anonymous No.106850666 [Report]
>>106822906 (OP)
Keychron C2 Pro. It's cheap, mechanical, feels great, and gets the job done.
Anonymous No.106850848 [Report] >>106851432
>>106849477
>If I go over 5 minutes the tendons at my elbow start hurting
I don't think this is normal
Anonymous No.106850952 [Report]
>>106842190
Heavy, metal keyboards produce better sounds, protect the pcb from corrosion better than plastic and are generally more durable.

If you are worried about durability or whatever just make sure your pcb doesn't rattle and there is like a layer of something protecting it from dust
Anonymous No.106850963 [Report] >>106851613
>>106849400
inductive switches make more sense tho. the keyboard has less failure points. there's only 4-5 chips dealing with the whole matrix instead of 80-100 chips for each switch.
Anonymous No.106850995 [Report]
>>106822906 (OP)
make your own keyboard, you fucking retard, they made kits to make it as easy as possible just for special little retards like you
Anonymous No.106851030 [Report]
>>106844417
It sucks but buying a quality keyboard is much cheaper if you don't mind the "toy" look of Chinese shit
Anonymous No.106851041 [Report] >>106851267
>>106822906 (OP)
Ayo why you be hating on royal kludge my nigga?
Anonymous No.106851098 [Report] >>106851279
>>106832221
One word: Buckling Springs
Anonymous No.106851267 [Report]
>>106851041
rk is the cheapest shit that just has the keycaps falling off
Anonymous No.106851279 [Report] >>106853193
>>106851098
>Buckling Springs
one of the most retarded of mechanisms
Anonymous No.106851422 [Report]
>>106850133
>you're asking me to repeat myself
No, you just made a shitty argument.
Anonymous No.106851432 [Report]
>>106850848
I know, my muscles are fucked up and I don't know what is wrong with me.
Anonymous No.106851613 [Report] >>106854962
>>106850963
I haven't kept up with the plethora of new contactless meme tech. I'm sure the best one might not be hall effect. The only thing that will actually matter will be which one wins the biggest share of the market and therefore is available on lots of boards. And probably that will be whatever has the superior gamer tech.
Anonymous No.106852049 [Report] >>106852068 >>106852897
>>106833096
I fixed the weird drop with pink keycaps
Anonymous No.106852068 [Report] >>106852425
>>106852049
>Down
>Up
Anon
Anonymous No.106852425 [Report] >>106852936
>>106852068
I'm an ultra dummy :(
Anonymous No.106852897 [Report] >>106852916
>>106852049
You just trooned out your keyboard
Anonymous No.106852916 [Report]
>>106852897
Circumcised and trooned out
Anonymous No.106852936 [Report]
>>106852425
the hell is going on in your pic
Anonymous No.106853155 [Report]
>Mac keyboards go up to F19
how can pclets even compete?
Anonymous No.106853193 [Report]
>>106851279
it looks retarded, yes
like it shouldn't even work
but it does, to a legendary degree
Anonymous No.106853222 [Report]
>>106835366
God forbid having the option to hotswap switches to replace or upgrade your board without the need of a soldering kit
>BUT IT'S NOT SOVL IF YOU ARE NOT SOLDERING THEM TRANNNNNNNNYYYYY
Anonymous No.106853240 [Report]
Let me guess, you need less?
Anonymous No.106853261 [Report] >>106853402
it is a fact you can tell how of a sexual deviant pedophile someone is from their keyboard
Anonymous No.106853402 [Report]
>>106853261
if that's true then you should be able to rank every keyboard in this thread from most to least SDP
Anonymous No.106853415 [Report]
>>106830260
>Hotswap is a must, I almost killed my current keyboard by washing it with water and soap.
¿Qué?
Anonymous No.106854251 [Report]
>>106822906 (OP)
ran out of jewgle subscription?
Anonymous No.106854291 [Report]
>>106842213
Cope. The mode sonnet with full copper add-ons isn't a meme.
Anonymous No.106854962 [Report]
>>106851613
from what I've seen best resolution is TMR and inductive, 10 times higher than HE. but doubt most people can tell the difference between, performance wise.
TMR is the only one that works with 8KHz polling, inductive is stuck at 1KHz, which is a limitation of the scanning chip.
HE is good enough for most people but TMR will probably take over. needs less power so manufacturers will prefer it for longer battery life, can offer sockets for classical switches in parallel to magnetic ones.
the only one from Keychron with TMR is picrel Q3, 8KHz polling, they kept the HE bullshit in the name so people know it's still magnet but actually uses "Keychron Ultra-fast Lime Magnetic Switch" which is TMR not HE. don't think it's yet available but will probably be soon
Anonymous No.106855136 [Report]