Thread 106837737

>Ubuntu 25.10 (“Questing Quokka”) released
Is /g/ downgrading?

>>106837737 (OP)
Who tf use Ubuntu in 2025?

>>106838635
Pedos

Why should I upgrade if LTS is like 10 years now?
>>106838635
I used it half as much as I use your mom.

>>106838635
tell us what are you using, anon.

>>106838901
openSUSE Tumbleweed

I am planning to switch from Windows to Ubuntu.
Still not sure if I want to be on the LTS cycle or the 6-motnhly cycle. Halp.

>>106839053
install gentoo

>>106839034
trannyware

>>106839098
But it works (better than Ubuntu)

>>106839034
>openSUSE Tumbleweed
any past and future opinions discarted.

>>106839053
LTS definitely. If you absolutely NEED the latest kernel for hardware enablement/improvement, you can just look up how to change the kernel in Ubuntu. You really don't need the non-LTS. Important stuff is going to be backported to LTS, the rest is just bullshit, you're almost like a beta tester if you use it.
>>106839123
>(better than Ubuntu)
that's not saying much
>>106838635
/g/ uses Ubuntu to spin up archlinux VMs and post in fetch threads

>>106837737 (OP)
>sudo-rs
>uutils
>gnome
NO

>>106839350
what are you using, anon?

>>106839350
Which distros are safe? Fedora? Debian?

>>106838635
I do
>>106838640
Correct

>>106837737 (OP)
I switched from Ubuntu to Fedora.
Ubuntu was far slower to boot, snap applications take noticably longer to launch, and the flipping system monitor has a memory leak!
Fedora has none of these issues and just works.

I was running on an i5-8250u with 8gb btw

>>106839462
>>106839381
Fedora KDE, Opensuse, OpenMandriva

>>106839605
>KDE
opinion immediately discarted

>>106839462
Debian is still ok

>>106838901
macOS

>>106837737 (OP)
have they added the ability to sort the app grid alphabetically with a right-click menu?

>>106839609
sorry didn't know you are retarded

>>106839822
sorry didn't know you are Ktarded

>>106839214
Can I switch lanes or am I stuck to my intial choice?

Let's say I choose 6-month, but then I want to switch over to LTS. Once the versions converge (evennumber.04), can I then hop over to the LTS cycle?

And vice-versa, if I choose LTS but am tired of always being behind/outdated, when the next convergent version comes out (evennumber.04) can I then switch over to 6-month?

My main computer is my laptop, and on W11 it uses smart charge (limited to 80%). I read that Ubuntu has that but only in their recent 6-month versions, not in the latest LTS, need to wait until the next LTS 26.04 for that. I don't want to rape my battery for the next 6 months, so either I hop on 6-monthly now and then switch over to LTS if possible. But if not, think I'll wait until next April to switch over from Windows.

It's nto even the enshittification of Windows, it's that it's buggy and unreliable now. It keeps fucking up for me. I have to dedicate time to fixing it when it borks itself. Before, I could rely on it to at least JUST WERK despite the botnet. Now I can't rely on it to JUST WERK either.

>>106838635
I use Lubuntu and Kubuntu and will upgrade my Win10 machine with Kubuntu 25.10 for a fantastic future. It is smooth, elastic and futuristic.

even retards switched real production use systems from ubuntu to debian by now for the most part

>>106839214
>Important stuff is going to be backported to LTS, the rest is just bullshit,
What utter fucking nonsense, so much good stuff doesn't get backported otherwise it would be the same distro
A lot of performance enhancements and new features are only on these releases and need years before they'll get into lts
with much stricter stability requirements
I had one issue in 6 years of 'buntu new distro releases, it fine.

>>106840067
>I had one issue in 6 years of 'buntu new distro releases
oh boy this version's gonna be a doozy

>>106840052
Mostly because of snap, but minimal installs now mean you can opt out of it now anyway.
We have a lot of ML stuff at work, vm's and containers, Ubuntu means far less fucking around for a lot of these libraries

>>106840017
sauce?

>>106839992
you can ut reinstalling would be better. it takes less than 20 minutes to do in most cases

>>106840105
You mean in addition to the great big URL in bright read at the bottom of the image? I guess you could get more from
https://xcancel.com/lxxt_artist

>>106839053
>I am planning to switch from Windows to Ubuntu.
In that case go for Kubuntu, with the following crucial notes:
- do not ever use Kmail - it is so destructive it will tirch your file server and then destroy itself and the host
- do not ever use Akonadi, it is a hive of evil that will try to take over the world.
Follow this advice and Kubuntu will be rock solid.
>Still not sure if I want to be on the LTS cycle or the 6-motnhly cycle. Halp.
I am going to use Kubuntu 25.10 and then switch to Kubuntu 26.04 LTS when it arrives. Most likely it will use the same kernerl.

>>106840218
It's there really much advantage of a reinstall?
If I wasn't a lazy cunt and properly partitioned along with having a coherent dotfiles backup then it sounds good, but my shit is everywhere, I've got random configs for work stuff all over the place
Timeshift and do release upgrade is sorta just comfy without worrying about that every 6 months.
Maybe on my next system I'll do it right from the start

>>106840334
during brown ubuntu era an update from one version to another would mostly end badly. why, when all you do is copy and paste a command into the terminal, i don't know. after a few times of that happening on different desktops i just went with telling people to move their pics and vids onto another drive so i can nuke and rebuild.

rip mrs bucket ;_;

>>106839053
The difference is not that big since the LTS gets new drivers and graphics stack every 6 months.
I run Kubuntu 25.10 because I want the very latest KDE Plasma, which the LTS won't provide.

>>106840374
Actually have solid 321 backups because I'm the sort of retard to use btrfs so not particularly worried about losing anything.
It's more the effort involved, a lot of work things are in incus/lxd containers on /var/lib and that involves a bunch of compress/archive/restore to get back normal.
I'm not going to upgrade anytime soon, probably start of next year, if it's broken just roll back on timeshift and wait longer.
>>106840739
>I want the very latest KDE
This is basically my only reason too, Plasma is so fucking comfy right now, even on Nvidia and Wayland, think I got lucky with the sweet spot of a GPU not too old and not too new.
It's unreal how much better it's gotten in the last few years. I would have laughed if someone told me to use Wayland on this computer not long ago

>>106840270
>>106840739
>>106841066
Last time I checked out Kubuntu (probably around 2020 was the last time I dabbled in Linux) it felt too busy. Too much shit going on, too many options. Reminded me of modern Windows. Ubuntu with Ubuntufied GNOME felt much simpler and thus confier desu. Even thoguh the superficial layout is different, Ubuntufied GNOME felt more like Windows of old (7, XP) with its simplicity. KDE felt like 10 or 11, too much unnecessary stuff going on, too much to sort out and switch off, too much to unfuck.

>>106837737 (OP)
>lust provoking image

>>106841162
>Reminded me of modern Windows.
Sure, and the very premise was indeed that >>106839053 was switching from Windows. And why would you want Gnome?
https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html

>>106838635
Me.

>>106837737 (OP)
I wouldn't mind it since 25.04 was actually pretty fucking good, but there's no chance in hell that I'm beta-testing that rust shit though. I'll wait and see how 26.04 turns out.

The last time I used Ubuntu was last year as a live iso because I wanted to use gparted on my drives. Its a well put together experience, I like it infact, but at this point I'm so locked in on Tiling window managers/Arch Linux that I just can't handle it. Not to mention I just don't like GNOME's philosophy at all. I want to add stuff to my taskbars and GNOME fucking hates that shit.

yeah, I've been waiting since August for this

I am downloading it right now on a spare laptop. If it's stable and comfy, it'll be my daily driver.

I've used 22.04 since the end of 23.10 support and it's been great.

23.10 was great too.

24.04 is glitchy on my laptop. The screen always flashes, and 22.04 never did that when it was on my laptop

I was skeptical about the new terminal, but folks say it's been battle tested for 9 months already. The developer, Christian (Hegert?), seems normal and professional.

I had expected a 4Buntu by now with Xlibre and without systemd.

>>106842862
hell ya

>>106837737 (OP)
why ever use a non-lts?

>>106843259
Why not? Newer software, kernel etc. good if you want features from gnome 49 or have newer hardware the benefits from a newer kernel

>>106841393
uutils is already in 25.04 tardo

Don't upgrade if you use flatpaks, should be fixed in a few days
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2025/10/flatpak-broken-ubuntu-25-10-apparmor-bug

>>106841066
KDE is really good these days, it's the only DE that I think comes closest to being full featured, if that makes sense. I don't want to go into a terminal just to change my laptop's battery options

>>106838635
I use Ubuntu in my work laptop, it came preinstalled even. You can get Lenovo Thinkpads with Ubuntu preinstalled in corporate channels.

>>106840739
>I want the latest *krashes*
FTFY

>>106844537
Dell also sells computers with Ubuntu preinstalled, they're cheaper as well

inb4 beefschizo

>Snapbuntu
pass

>>106844569
Read >>106840270

A new Ubuntu is dropping?
Sick. That means a new Mint (the number 1 linux distribution) will be coming out soon

as far as mainstream distros go the most painless, flexible and supported distro has been fedora by far

wasnt like this in the past but it genuinely has better out of the box compatibility with the dell craptops ive been installing it on than windows 11

>>106837737 (OP)
That explains why my Ubuntu shop PC immediately shit the bed and failed today.
Thanks Linux.

>>106839034
>using modern tumbleweed
Everything that made tumbleweed good is bend actively gutted as we speak anon

>>106844714
nah I'm good.

>>106841289
What the fuck
>>106844724
>the number 1 linux distribution
That's Debian

>>106845459
wrong, that would be android, just in terms of numbers of devices.

>>106844724
they should be going full LMDE already

>>106841066
Cute webm, I want a pretty blonde blue eyed germanic gf to do that with. It is owed to me

>>106838635
My entire workplace actually just switched from Ubuntu to Debian recently. Mostly because of snaps.

>>106846498
Wtf enterprises use Debian?

>>106846760
It's extremely stable and #JustWorks
Ubuntu is based on it for a reason.

>>106846890
I know but I didn't think enterprises use a community backed distro (which basically doesn't guarantee any support, you can't pay a company to troubleshoot your issues)

>>106846498
doubt.tga

>>106840218
"Just reinstall everything, you only have 14kb of private files to transfer, right?"

>>106839992
>Once the versions converge (evennumber.04), can I then hop over to the LTS cycle?
There is no "hopping", the upgrade process is initiated only with your approval so, if you decline, it stays on that version forever (or until you decide to initiate the release upgrade).

>>106838635
Me. Had to install a new OS since my last one was going to get deprecated.
>try tumbleweed
>installer hangs
>try fedora
>installs nicely but post-install configuration program hangs
>try arch
>installing it is total anus, I don't want to manually write my uuids on some config file to get FDE working
>try debian
>software is so old and the debian devs do retarded shit from time to time
so I bit the bullet and just installed ubuntu. Snaps are awful, but it's still the least awful experience when I just want to get shit done.

>>106841546
i have ubuntu on a very old laptop, (macbook 13 mid 2010) and 22.04 was buttery smooth, 24.04 and beyond have been glitchy, graphically

finally figured out the ancient graphics arent going to be supported any more
so in 24 onwards it was using some generic graphics drivers which wasnt good enough as opposed to specifric drivers for it which i think have been removed from the kernel

so is your laptop an ancient toaster? because in that case it might be the same deal as this ancient toaster of mine, 22 etc is the last good version. i.e. it's not gonna get better with 26. just enable pro to extend the support of 22.04 and use it until 2032, then it's ogre.

>>106837737 (OP)
They actually fucking released it?
I thought it was having a shit ton issues just a month ago?

>>106848315
Yes, and I have it running on my bullet shield machine (pic related)

I'm quite impressed by the updates, especially ptyxis (pronounced texas)

https://en.ubunlog.com/This-is-Ptyxis--the-new-Gnome-terminal-for-modern-Linux-environments-that-will-use-Ubuntu-25./

>>106848262
>until 2032, then it's ogre.
If your macbook doesn't die till then, call Louis Rossman

>>106848315
>thought it was having a shit ton issues just a month ago
Hence the "downgrading"

>>106840270
Somehow my Kmail setup has been working just fine since I upgraded to Kubuntu 25.04. I only use it for reading emails from several different addresses tho.

>>106850306
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Talk:List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software
>Is it really a good idea to recommend Kmail when the bug list reached epic proportions years ago? Debian Bug report logs: Bugs in package kmail is quite severe but the KDE tracker shows 2456 bugs, some dating from 2003.

>>106850530
>bugs existing since 2003
Damn.
Well I don't see any other "stable™" email client written with Qt that works on the system tray without workarounds.

what the world woud look like if canonical gave up on snaps

>>106850664
For real. Hopefully it fails like Unity and Mir and we can get back on track.

>>106850560
May I introduce you to an alternative so edgy that r/Ritalin had a meltdown?
https://betterbird.eu/
Long story short, he is protesting against the drivel masters by patching their filth so that it ends up working. This has made a lot of people angry.

>>106850664
windmills......