Thread 106841070

XP has no telemetry inside, atleast from what we know from the leaked source code builds, right?
Why not just use XP? A modern NAT does wonders for security, and I still remember when you fags said you wouldn't move to Windows Vista and stay on XP forever.

We have the source code. If XP had backdoors or telemetry inside, it would've been exposed and immediately fixed in forks, right? That's the power of open source, after all. You can just make your server's backend open source and random people will see it and fix it for you rather than exploit it before it's fixed!

>>106841070 (OP)
>Why not just use XP?

Almost no new software supports it.

>>106841093
We've been doing the same shit for 25+ years. Why the fuck do you need "new " software? What's being done now that wasn't being done before before that's suddenly super important?

https://cy-x.net/articles?id=11

>XP has no telemetry
>leaked builds
>NAT
>security
>We have the source code.
>exposed and fixed in forks
>open source
>Microsoft® Windows® XP
>open source

public beheading for you op

>>106841118
Web browsers from that time are incompatible with today's encryption standards. Windows XP has no native TLS 1.3 support and it's not going to get it anytime soon either.

>>106841070 (OP)
>Use this ancient OS that looks bad and is extremely vulnerable
No thank you!

>>106841196
>implying it's not open source
stupid nigger

https://theopenxp.org/wiki/Welcome
https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41870
https://github.com/tongzx/nt5src

>>106841250
>guides on how to compile stolen source code of proprietary software
>open source

public beheading for you op

>>106841070 (OP)
>what is _NSAKEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0ikW7pVa_I

>>106841070 (OP)
>SAARR OLD POOPIETARY SHIT GOODER THAN NEW POOPIETARY SHIT PLEASE LET ME HACK YOU SAARR

>>106841070 (OP)
At this point you should just kill yourself. Recommending people to use windows 7 is somewhat fine i suppose as it can still be installed on a lot of the usable hardware but this is a new level of retardation. Who tf is gonna use that shit if you dont want spyware use linux or openbsd.

>>106841270
Public code is open source code

>>106841368
>doesn't know
>can't open wikifurryphilia
>can't even chat with 5 gay pedophilic transsexuals

public beheading for you op

>>106841070 (OP)
Wake me up when 95's source code is leaked.

Spyware free? Wasn't it develop partially in Israel?

>>106841198
just use http-only websites. TLS is a scam.

>This retarded Muscovite drone still fishing for morons to join the FSB botnet
Why does this rooster try so hard?

>>106841070 (OP)
>We have the source code.
Unuable thanks to intellectual property jewery

>>106841070 (OP)
isn't XP a security disaster? you should only use it offline these days

>>106841070 (OP)
>/tl/ - Torrents/Loli

>>106841093
I have forks of Python, Palemoon, Chrome, and YT-DLP to meet my needs. Everything else I use is either old or never dropped XP support.

>>106841198
There are modern broswers for XP

>>106841270
Its open source as in the source is visible out in the open. And its free as in free beer.

It may not be libre, but who gives a shit.

>>106841366
>Who tf is gonna use that shit
me

>>106842185
Its fine as long as you have a decent router. The NAT keeps out any of those zero click attacks it was weak to back in the day. If you don't have a router with a NAT, you're probably gonna get pwned regardless of version if you're using Windows.

Just use Linux

>>106841070 (OP)
The fact that /g/ is so obsessed with running old versions of windows to 'beat the man' has got to be one of the dumbest glowie psyops I've ever seen and is true evidence of how fucking stupid the average user of this board is.

Running windows XP at this point is like driving around an old 1971 ford pinto with broken door locks, and then pulling into the parking lot of an inner city public park and sleeping in it overnight, hoping that minorities don't just open the door and rape your ass while they steal your shit. If I were an NSA agent and had to, for some godawful reason, break into the devices of your average shitbrain /g/ user, I would be fucking AROUSED to learn that they're using unpatched windows XP. My cock would grow to enormous raping size and I would stick it straight through one of many gaping security flaws and right up anon's butt.

If you really care about avoiding telemetry and glowing ass-sniffers just use some trustworthy version of linux. Fuck you can even compile it yourself if you want to make sure that nobody has stuck their dick in it. you can even make it look like XP if you're really so autistic about it.

>>106843815
It isn't /g/ it is just this one fucking guy that constantly asks people to do something with the XP source code, this exact thread always devolves into "my definition of open source is all that matters I don't care what other people think it means"
>>106843501
literally every developer that would support open source software, none of them want to get sued

>>106841070 (OP)
>We have the source code
Wasn't the source to winlogon missing? You know, one of the core components that enforces activation and security?

If you know what you're doing, everything works. Only 65iq shitskins struggle with XP.

>>106841070 (OP)
i cba to reply to your retarded take in any detail. you have 2 options, go study cybersecurity 101 and cease your kike ways or run xp as a daily driver and dance with the devil. don't come here crying when you get burnt.
>>106843815
can i just say i love your eloquence. i will have nightmares of nsa agents whose cocks grow to enormous raping size. this is a compliment even though i hate you.

>>106843476
Core2 Duo stinkpad + Posready 2009 daily driver chad here. I got the last official MPC-HC build working with the new LAV filters, MadVR and good ole' ReClock. No jeetware today works this smoothly. Zoomers are missing out.

>>106843490
MyPal68 makes use of the current uBlock origin rather than the legacy port, and overall can handle complex stuff that NewMoon won't (save for cloudflare captchas), but it lacks the polish and feature set of NewMoon.

The frustrating part for me is that most of these browsers target much older hardware than what you'd normally use for a high end XP build, so optimizations are lacking to say the least.

>>106843935
>poz ready
Did wintoddlers really?

Thread theme: https://youtu.be/oNXzMBA9VU4

>>106843490
>>106843516
Just never open any ports to the public internet.

>>106843861
>none of them want to get sued
Pussy faggots.

>>106845566
do it urself fag

>>106843815
>>106843910
>go study cybersecurity
What about using a supported browser behind a NAT makes XP so vulnerable?

>>106841070 (OP)
Does it work baremetal on new hardware? I know that they paid companies to block Windows 7 specifically from being installed, but what about XP/VIsta?

>>106841093
There has been a kernel extension written for Windows 2k, I'm sure there's going to be one written for Windows XP.
>>106841070 (OP)
You know what OP? Maybe I will spend some money and build my dream 2005 Pentium 4 Prescott Egg fryer setup. Find a non-beige CRT somewhere. Put on Windows XP Pro and enjoy the bliss. Get some contemporary AGP workhorse and trip down memory lane playing The Movies and Star Wars: Empire at War. Ignore the world outside.

>>106843815
Anyone else just skim past these retard posts at this point? I can tell from the first half seentence its just going to be some r*ddit faggot

>>106841070 (OP)
>what is xp antispy
brainlet

>>106846187
I just wish that if someone is going to make the effort to write a multi paragraph post that they would provide technical details which back up their claim.

Alas, they are almost always schizo rants without substance or validity.

>>106841070 (OP)
Apparently you newfags forgot just how easy it was to get spyware with XP
>Go on a website
>Say hello to Bonzibuddy

uh ATM's still use Win XP in my country lol

>>106846217
XP AntiSpy was to disable updates and sending error messages to Mariosoft. How is this relevant in current year?

>>106846225
I feel like these threads are 99.9% no coders, mostly jeet shills too. The only instance of an actual vulnerability being brought up was spectre in the other thread but its not like thats ever going to happen to anyone.

OS isnt really interfacing with the web directly so it makes no sense to complain about its security.

>>106846483
Right? Even Windows XP has a firewall, which itself will be behind a router, provided you're not opening your device to all and sundry you've little to fear. We're a long way from Windows 98 boxes mounting SMB drives to the unfiltered Internet.
The main source of hax will be from outdated browsers and malware, so discretion will be key. And if you're tecchie enough to care about XP, you'll have adequate discretion.

>>106845657
The glowies only know that they MUST shut down XP/7 advocates, they don’t actually know anything about computers to answer your question.

>>106841118
How the fuck would you hold a job while using Windows XP when you can't even open the documents your boss emails you?

>>106847402
>the documents your boss emails you
Standard office shit hasn't changed much since Windows XP was dominant

>>106847475
The files have lol

>>106841070 (OP)
>SPYWARE-FREE
...until you connect to the internet.

>>106846146

There has, it's called one core, it's not fully stable but they are working on it.

Honestly, the only limiting thing for XP is 3gb RAM max, every website on the Internet will chew that up pretty quickly. I've managed to create a workaround by setting up a RAMDisk but it's only 2gb if someone could make XP address 32gb of memory I would be onboard 100 percent.

>inb4 XP 64bit

>>106847477
you can install office2010 on windows xp, which basically supports all the new docx pptx and so on

Windows 98 is the only way, this modern normie XP shit is too full of spyware

>>106844199
>windows xp
>retro

>>106847832
It released over 20 years ago. It’s retro.

It is actually possible to run windows 2000 on modern hardware

>>106847838
it only lost support 6 years ago

>>106845657
It’s interesting to see people slamming XP without referencing specific unpatched problems.
XP is probably fine even without a NAT since, back then, you could *find* someone not using NAT on their home router.
New telemetry and spyware aside, most problems with XP were patched ages ago, and just imagine how many more problems and attack surfaces were introduced in subsequent years.. that we even know about.
Imagine the microsoft devs coming in now what their capabilities are like.

>>106841070 (OP)
Browsing /g/ in the post 2004 world just isn't the same.

>>106843516
>stuff
jej

>>106845287
Wish I could post screenshots of my netstat; literally zero ports open by the system itself, and then I have a third party firewall on top of it filtering out even unwanted arp traffick, all while freenet and tixati run in the background. Can't do that shit on Vista+ without sacrificing stability and/or functionality.

>>106841070 (OP)
I want windows 7 open source

>>106847095
r-rubber ducky daily cope thread!

>>106847734
Only a complete and absolute retard would try going online without a properly updated/tweaked/secured system. XP out of the box is unusable on the web, but you can make it work perfectly if you just put some effort into it.

>>106845287
Why would I? I'm not running a web server. Hell I can't even do that if I wanted to. AT&T wants me to pay extra for business internet service if I want to do that.

>>106848264
Its just my desktop shortcuts

>>106841070 (OP)
can I run koikatsu party on XP ? No? then It's useless

XP is dangerous online. There are Russian servers that only ping to new XP systems to plant spyware. Just pirate windows 11 or use Linux, you retarded gorrila nigger

>>106847838
It's not retro and neither is the Playstation 2

>>106843815
>Fuck you can even compile it yourself if you want to make sure that nobody has stuck their dick in it
You're not auditing the entire Linux kernel all by yourself

That aside, its not about security as much as its about control and independence. Linux, for all its talk of freedom, is fundamentally designed to rely on central servers for pretty much everything. All your software has to come from the distro's official repository. Sure you can use different repositories, but you're still using someone else's repository. Even compiling yourself, you're still using git to pull code from someone else's server. The only way you can have all these files saved locally is to host your own repository, which is an absurd amount of work for what it is.

Compare this to Windows, where you just keep a CD with all the software you want on it, and it just works. It will work regardless of what Microsoft or the original software developers say.

And that's not to mention how keeping your software up to date is *mandatory* on linux. On Windows, if you want to use an old program for whatever reason, you can and it will just work. On Linux? Too bad, even if the repository still has the program, all its dependencies broke compatibility with it years ago, and old versions of those aren't available, and would break all your new programs. So the only way to use the old software is to find the source code, and painstakingly port it to the new standards.

>>106843861
>none of them want to get sued
Develop anonymously. Loads of people do DMCA violating development already, such as anyone developing for hacked devices, since that's breaking a digital lock, which is a federal crime.

>>106849921
>Freenet
Which version?

>>106843935
I use VLC. It still nominally supports XP, though the current newest build doesn't work. They say they'll fix it in the next build, but they are taking a long time to release said build. Not that it matters, 2 year old VLC does all the things current VLC does.

>>106841070 (OP)
XP is the best and last os. Everything else is a program.

>>106847477
Office? No.

>>106844031
>MyPal68 makes use of the current uBlock origin rather than the legacy port,
Last time I tried it I had to use a very old version of the Quantum version of Ublock, since MyPal68 couldn't run Firefox Extensions meant for versions newer than 68. Have they fixed that since then?

Regardless, Ublock Legacy is more than adequate for browsing. Its still actively maintained alongside the rest of the extensions of the Palemoon add on store.

>The frustrating part for me is that most of these browsers target much older hardware than what you'd normally use for a high end XP build,
Define normal for a high end XP build. I would say Core 2, Athlon 64 x2, or maybe a quad core if you're feeling extravagant. Those only have SSE3 and maybe SSE4 (and 3d-Now in AMD's case). So if you want to target them, its not much a performance hit to go with SSE2 instead for the sake of supporting Athlon XP, Pentium 4, and Pentium D processors, which are all completely usable in the current year. Even if you're using something anachronistic like an AMD FX or Core i series processor, XP lacks AVX support, so you can't compile with support for it even if you wanted to. Plus a lot of that hardware doesn't even support XP.

>>106846728
You can just identify and delete most spyware/trojans on XP by making them open with a program automatically then changing the file type by adding .jpg at the end. Just gotta end the process with task manager then change file association, then the file type. XP is EZ

>>106845727
You can install it the same way you can install 7, you just aren't going to get any drivers on it.

why not just ask the ai to generate an os for you without any telemetry...?

>>106846146
There is a kernel extension and compatibility layer for XP called One Core API. It does have a lot of bugs, so its preferable to use as a dual boot rather than on your main install.

>>106847808
Wouldn't using PAE and having the browser divide its ram usage into multiple processes do that? PAE can address up to 128GB, it just can't assign more than 4GB to any one process.

>>106847402
Use OpenOffice, or Google Docs in your browser if you need to use really pozzed formats.

>>106847832
Its made in a substantially different style from modern operating systems. Its retro.

>>106851059
Do you not own a router?

>>106843525
Elaborate

>>106847808
xp has a 64 bit version.

>>106851338
The router does all the connecting to the internet for you. Your PC never actually sees the wider internet, just the traffic the router allows in, and most NATs are set from the factory to block all inbound traffic by default. So any of those probe a random IP attacks are going to get blocked by your router. The only traffic it does let in is from connections established through outbound communication by your PC. At that point all you have to worry about is having a working router, and making sure there aren't any malicious programs on your computer making connections to botnets.

If you meant how no router is unsafe even on modern windows, I say that because Windows has always had bad security. There's a reason web hosts always use Linux or BSD.

>>106851361
That's not really XP. Its based on the server 2003 codebase.

>>106841070 (OP)
your device would be infected instead less than 30 seconds after opening a web browser

>>106851385
its close enough that I wouldn't sweat it frankly.

>>106851388
yes, of course, but you forgot that I protect all my connections

>>106851388
Don't use Internet Explorer and you'll be fine

>>106847808
What is wrong with the 64bit over 32, not stable?

t. zoom zoom

>>106851419
Poor driver support, some software has compatibility issues, harder to activate.

>>106841118
>So why does using a computer in 2025 often feel worse than it did in 2005?
Bullshit. In the 2000s you could hardly play games while your web browser was open, due to only having one core, two max. Now it doesn't even matter.

>>106847402
Nigger are you for real? There's not a single office suite on this planet that would be more backwards compatible than M$'s shit. Doc files are the same as they were 40 years ago, I've yet to see even a docx being widely used and even then docx is 20 years old.

>>106851438
I'll give you that driver support is lacking , but if you're trying to use xp with modern software, software compatibility is not something that will be any worse, unless you are intending to run 16bit applications , in which case why do you need more than 4gb of ram per process, just use a vm or dosbox etc if you need that. activation is non-issue in current year. using xp on a semi modern machine is purely an eccentric endeavour anyway.

>>106851129
Latest, but forget about the installer since they clearly dropped XP compatibility at some point. I've been letting Freenet (well it's called Hyphanet now, but I'm sure you actually meant that too) for centuries so it just kept updating itself in the background so that wasn't an issue. I also run a hacked build of Java 8 that's actually pretty recent so shit just works.

>>106851518
my school distributed stuff in docx, like 15 years ago, I begrudgingly upgraded from word 97 during that time.

>>106851535
>it's called Hyphanet now, but I'm sure you actually meant that
Yes.
>a hacked build of Java 8
Why? Do you have a link?

>>106851523
>but if you're trying to use xp with modern software,
I was talking about old software. I've heard that the version of WOW64 used in it had some issue which newer versions like Vista's and 7's didn't have. A lot of old software is 32-bit only anyways.

I'm not that anon wanting more RAM btw. Personally I think 4GB per process and more with PAE is enough.

> activation is non-issue in current year
Its a non issue on 32-bit XP, which had its activation cracked five years ago. With XP 64 you have to activate by phone or use one of those shady activator programs.

>>106851514
>In the 2000s you could hardly play games while your web browser was open, due to only having one core, two max.
I can play Hl2 with a modern web browser open just fine on my 2003 P4 system. Something era appropriate with a 50MB or so RAM usage wouldn't be an issue at all.

>>106851781
Sure: neonfloppy.sytes.net/software/winxp/java

>>106851830
>with a modern web browser open
try it again with Firefox 1.5 and 30 tabs open.

>n-no you dont understand telemetry is a GOOD thing if i can watch youtube and porn!!!
modern /g/ is totally brainwashed and poisoned

vgh
sovl

>>106851843
Who keeps 30 tabs open? Just bookmark pages if you want to remember them that bad, or use your history menu to go back to them later. That's what I do.

>>106841070 (OP)
>connect to the internet
>immediately hacked
>computer vaporizes
no thanks

>>106851538
OpenOffice can open DOCX files

>>106851867
Zoomers. Only zoomers can be this retarded.

>>106851815
literally just use a kms activator, been around for 10 trillion years, works with everything.

>>106851876
source?

>>106841070 (OP)
but I just installed gentoo!

>>106851815
There are valid volume keys floating around online, its a non-issue since they will never be revoked.

Why /g/ hasn't developed their own version of wine with the leaked source code of windows xp all done anonymously using discord and some russian git hosting?

>>106852160
it's tedious work, and /g/ doesn't even know how to code

Is XP Integral the best ISO to go on?

>>106852487
I had issues with it. I think the best way to go is to get a stock XP SP3 iso and either update with Legacy Update, or slipstream your own updated ISO

Is late 70's/early 80's hardware or software the only ones that are guaranteed to not have a backdoor?

>>106852532
litterally all those old movies like wargames memes about people leaving backdoors in everything they write, doom/quake had coded in rcon master passwords

>>106841070 (OP)
zoomers.
>>106841309
all these people are zoomers. In all honesty I am not sure which is fucking worse baby boomers or zoomers. Actually now that I think about it could all of this just be new people that have just found the internet since 2014ish? Were there just that many people who didn't use the internet at all up till that point? So we have this demographic group of X, zoomer, millennial, and baby boomer who only used the internet first in 2014? Actually "use" it now? COVID forced them to sort of actually sit down and "use" it? Everything said ITT specially if you've been on /g/ before 2014 should know about all of this already.

>>106852540
Well shit. Is nothing truly safe to use? I was thinking anything built before 9/11 running a custom Linux (something like a buildroot) would be safe.

Is there any Linux desktop that rips off Windows XP?

>>106841070 (OP)
I WILL NOT be using a FISHER-PRICE TOY OS for TODDLERS. Grow the fuck up and use an OS for ADULTS

>>106852629
Trinity Desktop Environment

make sure to install pre sp1 and connect to the internet without a firewall for the authentic experience

>>106852629
Zoomer detected. All looks, zero interest in actual computing.

>>106852629
Wait, you want to dress something up to look like the real thing? Isn't that what trannies do?

>>106847402
You do know he's larping, right?

>>106841070 (OP)
Just use linux, jeet.

>>106841093
there's an open API called onecore API to support modern software to run on XP

>>106854004
Bad idea.New software (with the honorable exception of a handful of emulators) is pure garbage. Much of the reason for using XP in 2025 is precisely that, native access to the superior XP-era (and older) software.

>>106852160
Wine is absolutely massive.

>>106843525
no wonder ipv6 adoption is lagging because you retards consider nat to be security

>>106852629
Back in 2001-2004 there was unironically a distro called Lindows lmao

>>106851082
>its about control and independence
Excellently summarized, anon.

>>106841070 (OP)
>SPYWARE-FREE
Have you schizos heard of Linux ?
The distance you're willing to walk around it is astounding.

>>106845287
Most of the malware probably doesn't even support XP anymore

>>106854643
it's ok, there's enough xp machines out in the wild ready to welcome your computer into their abandoned, 20 year old bot net

>>106854778
How would this occur while behind a consumer router?

>>106854877
i didn't have one back then

>>106841118
old .Net doesn't support:
ref structs, zero-allocation udp sockets, aot -compiling

>>106841070 (OP)
You're stuck in that timeframe and refuse to leave your timebubble
>just use NAT as your only shield
>just use 15yo hardware
>just don't browse modern websites
>just ignore all modern formats for files lol
>just trust that few people maintaining forks fixed all the backdoors
feels like your only advice is to "reject modernity" and that's about it
why are you pretending it has something to do with telemetry? You're either too old to change or downright insane.
I assume someone close to you died at the release day of win7 and you were never the same ever since.

>>106856093
>just don't browse modern websites
I can browse modern website on XP. I'm doing it right now. I'm solving a cloudflare captcha to reply to you while listening to a youtube tab in the background.
>just ignore all modern formats for files lol
VLC, Infranview, and OpenOffice cover all the modern file formats I have encountered.

>>106854446
IPv6 is lagging because telecommunication companies don't want to abandon IPv4 and web hosts don't want to switch to IPv6. Home users don't really have a say in the matter.

>>106857088
wait, are you using 64bit xp?

can you install firefox on it?

***RETARD ALERT: THERE IS NO 64 BIT VERSION OF XP THAT WORKS WELL OUT OF THE BOX, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND DRIVERS EVEN FOR YOUR TOASTER. THE OP IS A COMPLETE FUCKTARD WHO PROBABLY INSTALLED IT ON A VM AND DIDN'T EVEN CHECK.***

The complete fucking idiot was probably trying to pull le ebig trole getting morons to install XP to make their shitboxes vulnerable, but used a version that is just too out of date to run on metal anymore.

>>106846146
Nononono, cockbreath, you're suggesting people use this today, not soon.

>>106852160
Fine, I'll get started on the logo.

>>106841070 (OP)
Newfags didn't believe me when I told them there used to be multiple loli boards. The internet is overrun with normalfags now it's fucking sickening.

>>106847402
>implying I'd ever do any work

>>106841070 (OP)
Also, newer viruses break on XP. Safer to use now then when it first came out.

Another good thing about XP: since it's not longer supported, it's not piracy any more. I was going to buy it but it's not being sold any more.

>>106841070 (OP)
Honestly, why not just create a pirate XP distro if the source code is available? Fuck M$. Modernize the fuck out of the codebase and distribute it on sneakernet and the darkweb.

>>106841070 (OP)
>exposed and immediately fixed in forks
>forks
>proprietary software no longer under support from parent company

>>106851248
XP doesn't even support Secure Boot or KASLR

>>106843516
You guys claim to care about spyware and telemetry so you run outdated OSes and then immediately install shit like discord which contains a builtin process logger among other spyware features. What is wrong with you, seriously?

>>106861471
the entire thread is parody I think

>>106861433
>just
That would be a herculean effort likely requiring many thousands of man hours worth of work and coordination among a team of developers. And everyone who "wants" this doesn't actually want to do it. Like you, they just want someone else to do it.

>>106858931
With OneCoreAPI you can use Chrome, Firefox, Vivaldi, whatever you want.

>>106851839
>neonfloppy.sytes.net/software/winxp/java
Do you have an alternate link? That one timed out.

>>106862597
https://web.archive.org/web/20250607001943/http://neonfloppy.sytes.net/software/winxp/java/