Thread 106854373

>revives your old PC
>revives your family's old PCs
>just works out of the box
>is ready to receive all those people who can't install Windows 11
Is Linux Mint the best Linux distro for replacing Windows, /g/?
I think it is.

why in the fuck wouldnt i just use debian? ubuntu and mint are literally pointless bloat

>>106854401
not polished enough yet for a windows user

>>106854438
its literally the same shit but doesnt come with over 9000 deps preinstalled

i have tried to convert people i know, but the truth is most people dont care about their operating systems. they just want to run gaymes or browse the internet. steve jobs was right, if the end user sees a terminal you have failed. this is the way most people see it, and even using linux mint you will have to use a command line at some point. windows even provides tools like regedit so you never have to open cmd. linux will never be replacing windows for this reason, and maybe that is a good thing.

>>106854483
>regedit
Do people really prefer this over the terminal?

>>106854438
Debian is a good distro, Ubuntu is corporate crap. Mint is built on top of Ubuntu and pretends very hard to be a distro when it's actually just a desktop environment (a good DE but it's written in javascript yikes) with only like 10 developers behind it who don't do a very good job on the distro side of things. Debian on the other hand is 1000+ devs

>>106854373 (OP)
only option to onboard Windows users is the KDE desktop (distro doesn't matter really, any Linux user will switch later anyway)
you know it's true. It has to look sleek and the file manager has to behave like windows otherwise they will get frustrated and beg you to just install windows again

>>106854718
kde doesn't feel anything like windows. it's entire its own thing with a horrid fucking ux.

>>106854714
Who Would Win?? 10 FAANG Marines vs 1000 Unemployed Europeans!

>>106854401
the debian experience is like dealing with a rude hipster bartender with gauged ears who rolls his eyes and sighs and shit. it's intentionally unhelpful, uncaring

>>106854373 (OP)
Everyone has been riding Mints dick since they hopped off Ubuntu's 10 years ago.

Roll Debian stable and make them use KDE if its for family and friends. Dont subject other people to Gnome without their consent as its practically rape.

>>106854779
people got shit for using MInt consistently back then. We were treated like black people on here. It was always that their website got hacked and they replaced the iso. I never gave a shit because I didn't get that iso, not my problem

>>106854786
4chan is not a good source of information or advice. This is a place to jeer and laugh at every 6 months when you're bored. You leave when you've regained your disgust, or become disillusioned by the congruent tone in every post, seemingly indicating that most of the posts are artificial or co-opted by the hivemind.

>do you prefer mintter or minta?

>>106854749
I gave my dad my fedora KDE laptop for a weekend and I had to explain to him afterwards that this is not windows
>>106854779
this

>>106854373 (OP)
trying it right now after having used fedora + kde/gnome for some years
i can agree its probably the linux with the sanest defaults and easiest to set up as a windows replacement, literally just works so far, overall miles ahead of microshaft, corpocucks wouldnt get it

>>106854401
Ubuntu sucks because of snaps and I wouldn't recommend it for most people I agree.
But at least Mint comes with all the tools you need to manage your system through GUI without ever having to open a terminal, which is better for people coming from Windows.
Cinnamon is also much better than the stock Windows experience while having very sane defaults and plenty of customisation.

>>106854714
>Debian on the other hand is 1000+ devs
yet they can't do a polished desktop to go with their distro?
oh right...it's a server distro.

>>106854373 (OP)
It just works. I have no major complaints.
>>106854401
Debian is fine, but I'd rather just use it for servers.

>>106854967
old faggot award

>>106854718
>krashes

did that ever crossed your brainlet minds you adverse distros to like 20 anons who out of pity shitpost in your threads? nobody normal willvever install this shit or come to this board

>>106855084
retards still think they're gonna turn the tides because they have a few hundred shitposters shilling for troonix on reddit and /g/, they are so retarded its painful. if you go on reddit posts about firefox being the hecking best are at like 50k upvotes, then you look at actual usage share and firefox is at 2%, KWAB. total westoid trannynigger leftoid death, I can't wait for them to all get butchered once they realize their demented population numbers are in mere millions while there's 8 billion people out there that think they all must die

>>106854373 (OP)
I recommend Linux Mint to beginners because the YouTuber Sam Tucker from SAMTIME, who's not very competent at using Linux, had the least amount of trouble with it out of all of the Linux distros he tried

>>106855084
I hope you fall for the arch meme. Dont forget to log your hours in JIRA once you get your DE back.

>>106855103
nice

>>106855084
>nobody normal willvever install this shit or come to this board
you dont know that. some people are nerds who come across it

>>106854718
>only option to onboard Windows users is the KDE desktop
isn't that a crash fest?

>>106854718
This tbqh. I tried ubuntu and mint in the past and just could not get them to work the way I wanted to so I kept going back to w10. Tried kde for the first time when I got a steam deck and was surprised at how... Windows-like it is. The experience was much more intuitive than with gnome or cinnamon.
Been running fedora kde as my daily driver for nearly 6 months now and don't see myself going back to windows ever again

>>106854373 (OP)
>Is Linux Mint the best Linux distro for replacing Windows, /g/?
nope. it will be when https://kde.org/linux/ goes stable

>>106854483
The problem with the terminal is that to undo changes you've made is to pray to Linux Gods and hope someone on ubuntu forums have the solution

>>106854373 (OP)
Should I start sneeding the Mint ISO?

>>106855036
It's a distribution anon... It distributes the Linux kernel with a suite of userspace programs. You can have whatever polished desktop you want on it, or even multiple desktops. Why waste dev effort on something that some other team is already doing very well and it's readily available and plug&play?

>>106855836
Imagine being so incapable that Linux Mint filters you

>>106854373 (OP)
>no wayland
>no plasma
>shit updater
>shit file manager
>ugly

>>106856575
None of the desktops are good because nobody can agree on a flagship desktop for Linux.

>>106856510
>~$ history
Gives you a log of all your previous steps. Good luck remembering which checkbox you clicked in which tab of a GUI at which point.

>>106856593
Gnome and KDE Plasma are very good. They are both better than the windows ui. Xfce is also very good but it's not for most people because it lacks fancier functionality

>>106856601
>Gnome and KDE Plasma are very good.
GNOME is dogshit and KDE is still a mess despite being better and more sane than GNOME.

>>106856584
>no wayland
this is a good thing
>no plasma
this is a good thing
>shit updater
works on my machine
>shit file manager
works on my machine
>ugly
zoomer detected

>>106854373 (OP)
>no auto scroll (mode wheel click) outside of a few programs that added it
>crashes when playing YouTube
>3GB RAM at idle
>NGO
>no way to undervolt my GPU
>no power plans

>>106854373 (OP)
really any distro with an LTS release and KDE or Gnome would work for that.

I'm comfier on Fedora but it's probably too much of a pain in the ass with the constant kernel updates and annoying nvidia driver behaviour.
>>106854401
it comes with nothing (including stuff you'll actually need). Good for when you reach a point where you know what you'll need but not as intuitive for complete noobs.
>>106854718
It's probably most similar to win 7 (which was the best version of windows anyway).

>>106856706
>no wayland
>this is a good thing
Why is no fractional scaling a good thing? Why is shit multimonitor support a good thing? Why is no HDR support a good thing?
>no plasma
>this is a good thing
Why is abandoning KDE in favour of a DE written in fucking Python a good thing?
>shit updater
>works on my machine
It is completely fucking stupid that the app store does not double as an updater; they are separate programs. Nobody else does this but Mint.
>shit file manager
>works on my machine
Try right clicking one of your drives, lol.
>ugly
>zoomer detected
If you want old man cred, you wouldn't be using Mint in the first place.

the old story continues
>install linux on old shit PC
>install on hdd instead of ssd, because you suck
>biggest distro that barely fits on the rusty hdd
>pick worst DE
>ignore missing mouse drivers, install with keyboard
>ignore missing graphics drivers
>display defaults to 720p, black bars on all sides
>don't install any useful software with package manager
>uses it for 2 hours
>forgets root pw after a day
>"hmm ... seems a bit slow and hard to use"

>buys $2k apple hardware
>sell half your soul to tim apple
>sell other half to Bill Microsoft and Mister google
>subscribe to two overprized clouds
>subscribe to three overprized shit software
>pays some apple tech $200 to configure it all
>"wow ... this is so much better than the pinguin thingy"

>>106856790
>no auto scroll (mode wheel click) outside of a few programs that added it
Honestly a feature I miss from Windows ngl but It's something I can live without
>crashes when playing YouTube
Fucking how, I watch tons of youtube slop and I've never had it as much as hang during.
Crashes in general I'd even say I've felt more far and between on linux than windows 11 enterprise. And when a kernel panic happened it was usually when the machine was shutting down at least while windows blue screens I've had more during actual work.

>>106854761
FAGMAN uses a lot of AI code these days. Microsoft have been openly bragging about how many lines they're getting.

>>106856790
>>106857036
>no auto scroll
KDE has that. it's a checkmark in the mouse menu (you can set it per device)
doesn't feel as nice to use though

>>106856855
>gnome
lel

>>106854401
>just use debian
Using a shitty troonmade installer that doesn't support LUKS?

WHAT KIND OF MONGOLOID ARE U??

Not to mention Clem (maintainer) is based and acts as a safeguard between you and the debitroon. So that (you) too may experience the niceities of a LTS release, without the faggotry.

Do you fags have nothing to talk about but which OS is best and which programming language is best? Do you even do anything with those things?

>>106854373 (OP)

What if you want to use a rolling distro though?

>>106856790
>crashes when playing YouTube
Works on my machine.
>no power plans
Retard.

>>106858470
woops forgot image xD

>>106854373 (OP)
I wanted a Linux distro for a bootable USB OS-on-a-stick sort of thing. I have a ThinkPad so hardware support shouldn't be an issue.

I tried MX Linux at first because people were raving about how it maximizes flash drive life. What I got was a half-working desktop where sound and the mouse weren't working at all, and changes weren't persisted despite me explicitly selecting that option.

I then installed Linux Mint and everything just fucking werked out of the box, first try. I was amazed. It isn't optimized for flash drive writes but I only plan to use it occasionally.

why noita has slow motion hiccups moments compared to what i had in win10.. while having mint.. so it's not the best after all

>>106854718
hey jesse pinkman

>>106858570
yeah i just bootup my win10 boot and it runs smooth as butter
wtf linux mint
any fix?

>>106858671
It's not linux mint, it's most likely your gpu driver.

>>106858688
noita is depended on cpu, dumbass

>>106858693
>is depended on cpu
Ayy lmao

>>106858716
retard

>>106854373 (OP)
>OOM freezes
Not in a million years.

>>106858688
yeah how is that even possible while having the same fucking driver from win10s

PikachuEXE forked a fix: https://github.com/PikachuEXE/FreeTube/actions/runs/18423858036

>>106857682
Most people don't.

>>106854373 (OP)
>Is Linux Mint the best Linux distro for replacing Windows, /g/?
For now.

False, use fedora, some newage slop or ubuntu. I don't want to see win-normies ruining one good distro.

>>106854373 (OP)
I put this on machines for both of my parents and it just works. I cum every time I completely erase windows from a drive.

>>106854474
The deps are the polish anon.

>>106856575
I don't want a "distro" you bathless faggot I want an operating system

>>106854373 (OP)
my win7 2009 installation compared to your yesterday mint distro It's like comparing a renaissance painting to street graffiti, be a little more modest with your categorical statementsm, it's obvious you're only 15 but try to hide it a little, dear

>>106854483
Linux operating systems will never be replacing Windows because most people actually have jobs and use Word and Excel all the time. As long as there is no alternative to those, no one will be switching to Linux snytime soon. And no, Libreoffice is not an option

>>106861041
LibreOffice

>>106854401
lmde indeed

>>106861041
LO works ok for an office suite, 15 years ago OO was doing retarded things like not storing pics C&P from internet...
Gnumeric is way faster than LO Calc

>>106854373 (OP)
Can't game on mint with a new gpus because they never update the kernel. Other than that it's okay-ish.

>>106854718
KDE is just bad and doesn't behave like windows

>>106855104
Mint is my go to, I think arch is a bit overrated

>>106854483
>they just want to run gaymes or browse the internet
Correct
Make a distro that install .exe including pirated games and repacks out of the box, runs games rock solid with non meme gpu drivers and can use chromium based browser because i have usecase to have a chromium browser + firefox and i switch over.
Bazzite is getting there from what, me, gamer, know about meme linux

>>106854373 (OP)
Yes.

That said, if you're an actual enthusiast, don't plan on staying there for long. For the normalfags however, its basically perfect.

>>106861358
>Can't game on mint with a new gpus because they never update the kernel. Other than that it's okay-ish.
Pop_OS solves all of Mint's problems when COSMIC goes stable.

>>106854373 (OP)
I would really like if Cinnamon had an option to clone panels between multiple monitors.

>>106854373 (OP)
Linux Mint really needs to have prebuilts sold in stores so people who are shopping for a new computer can buy one.

>>106861969
>Linux Mint really needs to have prebuilts sold in stores so people who are shopping for a new computer can buy one.
Won't happen until Google does their own distro like they took over the smartphone market.

>>106861969
This. You can bet any of us helping Mom buy her new computer this Christmas would direct her to it.

>>106861805
but it introduces an even bigger problem: the name Pop_OS is gay as hell

>>106862515
it's not ideal but it's not that bad
it could be way worse like Fedora

>>106861548
>Bazzite is getting there from what, me, gamer, know about meme linux
True. If you double-click an exe on Bazzite it asks you to launch it. And then if you have Bottles installed it'll ask you to launch it in a bottle. I guess if you didn't replace Lutris with Bottles it would just open in Lutris instead.

>>106863063
>Bazzite
That is an even gayer name than PopOS
What is that even? A decorated boy pussy?

>>106854373 (OP)
>>revives your old PC
it doesn't

>>revives your family's old PCs
they don't have one

>>just works out of the box
Not without sudo apt get it doesn't

>>is ready to receive all those people who can't install Windows 11
>shitVidia drivers don't work
>no native passthrough for GPU
If this ever happens everyone will be running Windows under Linux. But troonix tards are too self absorbed to dumb things down so more people use it. Besides, Microsoft owns Linux. So tell me, how long till you're forced to have a microsoft account in order to access the terminal on your Pro Home Enterprise Linux version you paid 1000$ for?

>>106861339
>LO works ok for an office suite
Compatibility issues out of nowhere. Boomers and early millennials don't like seeing .odt files.

>>106854749
Both of these linux flagship desktops - kde/plasma and gnome are over-engineered trash. It's like that car what Homer Simpson designed...
Dolphin is a great example of this.
Where is the elegance and usability? Just because it's free doesn't mean it needs to be baroque neckbeard copy.
And gnome desktop? Jesus wtf are they thinking.

>>106863644
>Both of these linux flagship desktops - kde/plasma and gnome are over-engineered trash.
this

>>106863644
I don't get how you can get filtered by Dolphin, which is probably the best file manager across all operating systems combined.

Windows just works, why would I switch

literally any linux distro revives your old pc

>>106863976
I still prefer thunar but sell me on dolphin

>>106863988
because 11 is legit bad

>>106863976
>Dolphin, which is probably the best file manager across all operating systems combined.
dolphin has had issues in the past and you know it. it's not great.

>>106863642
It can save files as doc* and export to pdf...
The problems with LO is related to some docx and files with some kind of code that it will not execute.

>>106854373 (OP)
Mint is a joke, why you would recommend a meme "community" OS to anyone is beyond me, guaranteed security problems. Just use Ubuntu (LTS Specifically), RHEL or SLE.

>>106854373 (OP)
Bluestack can't run on Linux so no

>>106864763
>Just use Ubuntu (LTS Specifically)
worse than mint

>>106864802
>muh chinky software for android games doesn't work on linux
Grow up

>>106858758
Retard.

>>106860427
I guess if you're poor and using 15 year old hardware 7 makes sense. Like a core 2 duo laptop.

>>106864837
>Dell, HP, and Lenovo all sell Laptops with Ubuntu LTS
>Akschually let me tell you how this meme distro maintained by a single indonesian pedophile is superior and you should use all your private information on it without worries chud
Nobody says this.

>>106863221
Latant homosexual.

>>106864763
OOBE is important for a new user.
Mint has good OOBE, and a look and feel similar to windows.
Ubuntu has shit OOBE, and is unfamiliar and clunky to anyone that doesn't already have gnome stockholm syndrome.

>>106854483
loonix sux is not just a meme, it's a protest against legalist freetards, who defend linux while detracting piracy, enterprises who infiltrated them to prevent piracy by making you use lower quality free stuff, it's a capitalist brainwhash

>>106864893
>Latant
lol

>>106861358
>they never update the kernel
Absolute horseshit, I'm running 6.14.0-33 originally released March this year and the latest NV driver 580.95.05. Never once had an issue running games where a newer kernel would matter

>>106864938
The only difference between Ubuntu's GNOME and Mint's Cinnamon is that Ubuntu's dock/taskbar solution is on the left. Everything else is practically identical or superior, less bloated, less confusing, and is maintained by professional employees and has security CVEs unlike meme distros like Mint. There's a reason normal employed people use Ubuntu, while every single neet or tranny social outcast retard on 4chan or reddit shills shit like Mint, CachyOS, Nobara, Zorin, Arch, Artix, Void, Nix, or some other irrelevant shitstro maintained by a couple of pedos in Pakistan.

What's the name of that distor based on Arch made by creator of Ruby on Rails?

I wanna switch to it from EndeavorOS. The more I hear about it, the more I like it.

I am a WINNER, so I don't have time to install Arch.

These Arch-based distros help WINNERs like me use Arch without worrying about the installation.

I just wish this dude named his distro in a more memorable manner, because I've forgotten it.

If my current EndeavorOS breaks, imma 100% install this distro.

>>106864959
Or just use Debian but that is even less polished

>>106864959
>implying your baked in telemetry makes you more secure
Mint pulls from the Ubuntu LTS security repo
All this freedom, thousands of distros to choose from and someone would really want Ubuntu on their personal machine?

When i switched from Windows a few years ago, Mint was the distro that gave me a familiar experience and held my hand enough so I could learn how things worked without breaking my system or losing files.

Unironically, the best thing about Mint is the setup process that guides you through customizing, drivers, updates, firewall, and most critically setting up timeshift so if you do something stupid you can just roll back to before you did it.

Now that it's been a few years I don't use Mint anymore because I understand how linux works. I can use the terminal and I like a tiling window manager and all of that, but Mint was the bridge I needed to get to where I am now.

My Mom's Win10 laptop can't upgrade, so I switched her to Mint literally yesterday, sat her down in front of the computer and told her to go exploring. In about 5 minutes she was smiling and excited, she understood how to do the things she wanted to do, and she loves how simple and uncluttered it is.

TLDR: Mint is an awesome distro.

>>106865060
Yeah Mint was my gateway drug too.

I'm going to install it on my sister's laptop. She's a med student, and Mint will cover all her needs.

>>106865060
>I don't use Mint anymore because I understand how linux works.
what do you use now?

>>106863221
There are some distros you can rule out on name alone
Hannah Montana Linux masterrace

is mint still ubuntu + preinstalled ugly ass themes on an older, less maintained version of gnome?


wow sign me up!!

>>106865041
Mint has no security CVE's, you spend most of your time interacting with Mint packages, like Firefox, Cinnamon DE programs, all of which are not contributed to by Ubuntu programmers and maintainers. Mint has no security CVEs and is maintained by a few anons on github. You would get fired on the spot if you put it on computers of any company. It's objectively a security risk with no security standards.
>>106864988
Why would I do that? It didn't support even secure boot out of the box last time I tried it, and it still required you to do cli upgrades, and put most emphasis on the stable repos which become ancient too fast. Linux is shit over all, but Ubuntu LTS is as close as you can get to a usable system.

>>106865092
Obviously not him, but I've switched to Arch. I was in similar shoes.

>>106854373 (OP)
Do not use troonix or any troon distribution. It causes you’re computer to give off cancer causing radiation, it is a glowi psyop to get you to switch from Windows, which made is by only Americans. Ave Jesus!

>>106865130
I get Vivaldi from the upstream repo, every day there are system package security updates from ubuntu LTS. Most security updates end up being lib* libraries. I think you have an inaccurate threat model. The modern cybersecurity ecosystem is a joke

>>106864861
>something not works on Linux
>muhhh childish shjt
>grow upppp
Kek, exactly why Linux is shit for normie users

>>106864938
By that logic the only thing that should be shilled are Universal Blue distros because their OOBE is much better than Mint.

>>106860359
no they arent they dont even do anything until you want to install something that needs them

>>106857036
>Honestly a feature I miss from Windows
Is this even a feature of Windows? The only software I've ever seen where that works is Firefox and Chrome and both of those can also have it turned on on Linux it's just off by default because of the platform UX guidelines. Firefox is just a checkbox Chrome needs a flag.

>replaced mx Linux on my x220 and installed mint alongside windongs on my x13
It's over.

>>106854373 (OP)
kubuntu is better

>>106854373 (OP)
Mint just werks even if you are total noob it's very friendly with everything. So if you are going from WIN to Linux this is just right distro.

>>106867254
Yeah it's friendly
>>106865060
This anon summed it up well

I've spent two decades dealing with all kinds of UNIX and Linux systems, weirdass mainframes etc. Simply run Mint on my own machine. It works

>>106854718
looks comfy but linux is still server only for me

>>106854373 (OP)
>old as shit kernel
>riddled with bugs its small team can't handle
>fractional scaling per display? take that wayland shit outta here!
No, thanks.

>>106854483
>implying regedit is better than the command line
If the user has to mess with either, you've lost.

>>106868516
Fedora Atomic is the only real option for Linux beginners and reviving dead systems.

>>106854714
>Ubuntu is corporate crap
That might explain why it's the most polished Linux distro out there where everything works out of the box, including drivers.
And the file manager doesn't look like it's made by some unc in his basement

>>106856584
I agree with this zoomer. Mint is just plain ugly like it's made by some French unc living with his mom

>>106867548
Mint-chan... sex...

>>106864959
>The only difference between Ubuntu's GNOME and Mint's Cinnamon is that Ubuntu's dock/taskbar solution is on the left.

And that's a weird choice. People get the impression the taskbar can only be on the left.
They should just put it on the bottom, so normies would stop panicking when they see something too different from Windows

>>106864987
I don't think it's a distro, it's a DE, Hyprland. It works on some Arch based distros

>>106864959
>muh securityyyy uuuuhhuhu
shut the fuck up, I will keep using win7

>>106864987
Omarchy?

>>106854373 (OP)
But where are the unnecessary services that run 24/7 in the background forever and ever???

>>106854401
Some of us aren't virgins who have to replace human interaction with tediously running everything off a terminal

>>106868529
>Fedora Atomic is the only real option for Linux beginners and reviving dead systems.
Too unstable.
It should be something more like RHEL Atomic.

>>106854373 (OP)
I will jump to Mint the moment it supports KDE.
No, I don't want to use Cinnamon.

>>106871114
>I will jump to Mint the moment it supports KDE.
Then you want this when it goes stable.
https://kde.org/linux/

I only recommend U-Blue based systems or Fedora Atomic now. It stopped me from being a tinker-troon. My Server now runs Ucore and my desktop/laptop runs Bluefin-dx/Bluefin-LTS

>>106861041
>because most people actually have jobs
Speak for yourself.

>>106854373 (OP)
Been facing plenty of issues since I forced myself to jump into it and fix things as I go
Some Steam games don't work on my external drive, but I just need to move them to my os drive
The biggest issue I'm facing is my Focusrite Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen sounds terrible
People say it's plug and play but it isn't for me and can't find a driver so far
https://voca.ro/1gGQkbe37tmO

>>106856600
Yet it doesn't undo the damages

>>106854483
Synaptic eliminates almost all cases you'd have to use a command line.

>>106870673
The overwhelming majority of users prefer unstable operating systems. Stability is something that only servers need. Tell your grandma "no you can't install the newest version of Zoom because RHEL didn't package it since it's meant to be stable!" and she'll tell you to go abort yourself and install Windows instead.

>>106854373 (OP)
Windows 10 iot enterprise ltsc does this better.

>>106856988
Many such cases. But you can make money off these idiots if you're a psychopath enterprising sovl.

>>106871449
>Synaptic eliminates almost all cases you'd have to use a command line.
yeah but it's not very user friendly to people just coming from Windows.

>>106872052
This anon is right. Linux is tinker tranny shit. Nothing has improved in 25 years except the kernel- there's something wrong.

>>106854401
It seems my superiority has led to some controversy.

>>106854373 (OP)
How's Omarchy? I heard it was supposed to be like Mint for the Arch users.

>>106872493
Mint for Arch users are Manjaro, Endeavour and Cachy. Omarchy is a pointless meme.

>>106872493
>How's Omarchy?
The latest MEME distro of the year. Next one will replace it.

>>106861041
LibreOffice is fine, it's just you need to put in effort rather than the program automatically doing everything for you
The issue is the average user is fucking retarded and needs daddy Microshart to help them configure everything in a doc or spreadsheet automatically, too difficult to learn how to manage shit

>>106865273
Stop being a fucking manchild and selling your soul to Microsoft and Google to play fucking Subway Surfers and PvZ2
Games are always secondary, fun thing to own and enjoy but if you are actually willing to sell all of your and your family's data on the net to play Bluestacks then you have the mental presence of an 8yo

>>106854373 (OP)
>all those people who can't install Windows 11
Man 11 runs on cpu as old as the first core i series, no one is still running a core 2 duo/quad cpu nowadays

>>106874477
Also completely forgot to say that Bluestacks ALREADY is literal bloatware, I got it once and I had to get a fucking test version used by one of the big computer companies rather than the "official" version because the latter is so full of ads and shitty extra downloads that only slow down your computer it's fucking insane

miserable ass niggers

>>106864802
Waydroid works just fine.

>>106854373 (OP)
replace this

>>106874746
>gets filtered by the "Maximum lines" setting

>>106874827
>he could only notice that

>>106874840
Explain everything wrong with the bottom one that isn't related to user theming.

>>106854483
>and maybe that is a good thing.
I would actually love for a proper user friendly linux based system to make it big with the normies to give microsoft some actual competition (mac doesn't count, that is overpriced hipster slop). But as long as linux fanboys sincerely believe that forcing the user to use a command terminal in 2025 for anything more complicated than watching youtube videos is good design it will never happen.

Also
>regedit
90% of windows users don't even know that program exists, and the other 10% almost never use it. Hell most windows users barely even know how to use control panel. That is the mass audience you should be making your distro for if you want to put a serious challenge to microsoft.

>>106875033
>a proper user friendly linux based system to make it big
Universal Blue is trying to be as user friendly as possible, but they won't make it big. Normies who care about operating systems are just waiting for SteamOS and nothing else, while other normies think that you absolutely need Windows and nothing else exists.

>>106875100
>while other normies think that you absolutely need Windows and nothing else exists
The average joe doesn't know what an operating system is, he just buys whatever the guy in the store tells him to buy.

>>106875121
It doesn't matter if people know what an OS is. You can't escape established norms/brands, etc.. Non-technical people I've seen are always saying "I want a computer and it should have normal Windows". People just think Windows is the thing that turns a device from a paperweight into a usable computer they can use for web browsing.
>the guy in the store tells him
Funny, since people in my local stores are always warning people "this PC/laptop doesn't have Windows" if someone tries to buy a no-OS or Linux device. And they try to push Windows devices.

>>106875121
Eh, I think there's definitely a reliability issue involved. Most people still see windows as the trustworthy computer company from back in the XP/7 days and not the total scumbag company willing to sell your data it actually is (not that Windows was particularly moral back then either, but there weren't as many alternatives as nowadays). So people just kinda trust it out of the box, same with IOS/Mac though in that case it's the luxury brand even though it's probably the worst OS out of all of them kek

>>106875208
>warning people "this PC/laptop doesn't have Windows" if someone tries to buy a no-OS or Linux device
Because Joe normie might accidentally buy a linux pc and not understand why microsoft word is suddenly not working.

>>106874827
Defaults should be sensible, shouldn't need to dig into the settings for basic and obvious usability improvements.
Not that windows gets many points either, hiding extensions by default is batshit insane. But the point still stands.

>>106875237
Normies don't even install Word. They either use Google Docs or have someone else install an office suite for them. I'm pretty sure most linux distros ship with an office suite anyway.

why can't Mint just switch to KDE instead of continuing with Cinnamon?

>>106875948
Sunk cost fallacy. Also Ubuntu LTS doesn't package KDE really well - it's the main reason why "KDE is buggy" meme still lives on even after KDE4.