Thread 106960693

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Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
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>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500F
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Mid range: Lian Li GA II Lite, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>106952182

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

Reposting my request:
Can someone draw an actual raptor lake? Just a big lake with with raptors in it, to demonstrate superiority of AMD over Intel. If you wanna be fancy about it, draw the raptors swimming in the lake, while the arrows in the arrow lake all float to the bottom and drown, like the pieces of shit they are.

COMMON LIES BEING PERPETRATED BY TROLLS AND SHILLS ITT DEBOONKED 1/2

>RADEON HAS BAD DRIVERS!!!
They have been fine for years and have the same amount of problems that Nvidia drivers have or less. Most problems occur with productivity applications which is why Radeon gpus are not recommended for workstations. If you are just gaming you are unlikely to ever have any issues, especially if you only update to the latest driver when you need to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lv4-poQOyo

In contrast for the first few months Blackwell had major driver issues that are only now mostly fixed. Premium day one GeForce buyers that paid the nviditax had a worse early adopter experience than Radeon buyers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXoUsdSAnA

>RADEON HAS CPU OVERHEAD!!!!
It does not. Nvidishills likes to spam charts of cherry picked DX 11 games like KCD that do not play well with radeon but in reality if anything Nvidia has a worse overhead in CPU limited scenarios. Screenshot and videos below for proof.
https://imgur.com/a/A5MIHM6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiElNex2OC0&t=210s
Radeon "CPU Overhead" in Warzone chart that the Nvidishill used to spam debunked: https://imgur.com/a/yy3MZRS

>9000 SERIES MSRP AND SUPPLY WAS A LIE!!!
Nvidia normally supplies over half of the market, this time they made almost no GPU's and AMD despite making a large amount of cards is unable to fufill all of this demand effectively. The result is a low supply high demand market and increased prices. However besides the US which is also impacted by tariffs the 9070 XT in many regions with some effort can be purchased for around 700 dollars or less. The card will likely go back down to MSRP around January next year when the Supers from Nvidia come out to remain competitive.

>>106960735
2/2

>FSR4 IS IN NO GAMES!!!
Almost every game that has upscaling can be easily modded with Optiscaler to support FSR4. The result is better than native image quality in games with bad TAA. Cyberpunk 2077 before native support was added could be modded with Optiscaler, the game can run ultra RT at 80-90 fps and 50-60 fps pathtracing with good image quality using FSR4 on quality mode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNzI-TBV--A
https://github.com/cdozdil/OptiScaler

Native FSR4 integration will get better into the future with many games planned to have support added this year. Because of AMD's collaboration with Sony on Project Amethyst and PSSR it's likely that all future games with a console release will have FSR4 on PC.
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/processors/the-amd-x-sony-collab-gave-us-fsr4-and-a-version-will-appear-in-playstation-next-year-too-having-already-started-to-implement-the-new-neural-network-on-ps5-pro/

>WHERE ARE OTHER FEATURES TO MATCH NVIDIA AND WHY IS PT PERFOMANCE WORSE?!?!
FSR Redstone which is coming out before the end of the year should noticeably improve Pathtracing perfomance and match nearly all Nvidia features such as Ray Reconstruction and AI Framegen.
https://videocardz.com/newz/fsr-redstone-on-track-amd-promises-dedicated-presentation

>ZEN 5 IS MELTING ON ASROCK!!!!!!!
There is no conclusive evidence for what the cause is yet. Zen 5 and the 9800X3D in particular have sold very well and most people haven't had any issues. It's possible there was a bad batch of processors and ASRock motherboards have BIOS settings that are worsening the problem, or the fault may entirely be with ASRock, there isn't enough information to make any kind of conclusion yet. For now just avoid ASRock boards to be safe and you will likely be fine like the thousands of other people who have bought and used these CPUs for months with no problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFYPnT_AQLk

>>106960693 (OP)
>Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
Ded link?

>>106960753
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
will fix for next thread

>>106960768
fix the rest of your shit op while you at it

I bought a 14700 because it would meet my requirements, and a board partner 5060 Ti because it met my requirements while also being energy efficient.

>>106960973
elaborate or are you just seething about the cpu and gpu section

>>106960978
wowowow anon... thats not what we do in here, we dont purchase stuff that fits our needs
you better tell us you got a 1kw psu or prepare yourself to be banned

>>106960724
isnt that what AI is for?
@grok draw me a lake full of raptors

>>106960978
noooo you can't buy intel or nvidia
nicotroon is gonna have a melty

>>106961001
Rest assured, there's a 1KW power supply, but it's an EVGA Supernova G3 that I bought 8 years ago.

So from the previous discussion on x3d and thinking on maybe start checking prices for an upgrade
I might want an x3d cpu if i play
>mmos
>multiplayer shooters
>autism sims
>grand strategy games
>strategy games with big armies (rts // total war)
>city builders
I might not need an x3d chip if iplay
>2d platformers
>3d action games
>playstation movie games
>souls
>visual novels
>gachas

Am i getting this about right?

That guy yesterday really bought a $500 PSU that he could not plug into his server mobo kek

>>106961130
>Anon you mentioned on your resume you had experienced building server units right?
>.... yeah boss

How good is the Newegg Refreshed program?

is there a monitor database
to see which monitor has the lowest gtg and mprt

>>106961039
>I run almost clean CachyOS
i run arch but i use the cachyos kernel because the arch kernel is kinda ass
>This test isn't also 100% repeatable I get around 1% difference between the runs
1% variance for a real game benchmark is good
>I think maxing out tREFI would give bigger boost than touching FCLK at this point
than touching FCLK? sure, but you're already at 50k
500/50000 = 1%
500/65535 = 0.76%
primaries and tRC can go down as well
and your WRWRSCL should be 4 according to buildzoid
>>106961120
14600K is <$200 and plays everything
you don't need more

>>106961120
I'm not sure if they are really too amazing for strategy games / 4x or that kind of thing either.
I'm going to get one for Guild Wars 2 and Path of Exile 2, unfortunately no one benchmarks those games so I'll just have to hope that it's worth it.
Gamers Nexus tested the 9800x3d in Stellaris and Total War: Warhammer 3, and it did top the charts but it wasn't such a big lead that I would say it's worth getting for those games. A 9700x would probably be fine.

>>106961206
I doubt those settings are stable anyway that would be too easy.
I would rather not silently corrupt my OS further :^)
I will try to test some other games instead of watching multiple passes of p95, yCruncher etc.
Now I need to set up a way to gather data and filter it because normally games have huge variance between benchmark runs.

>>106960693 (OP)
>making her sit on a Radeon
>A Radeon
Poor girl

>>106961184
rtings.com might be the only autistic place to test that.

Planningto sell my 3060 Ti 8GB to upgrade to RX 9060 XT 16GB.
This upgrade will cost me 100 EUR.
Worth it?

>>106961184
RTings has a big database. It's pretty clunky but you can probably get what you want out of it. FWIW, pretty much every OLED is going to be at the limits of the testing apparatus viz. those two metrics so they might not actually be all that useful to you (if that's all you really care about).

>>106961168
You get 90 days of warranty instead of the original warranty. If your GPU craps out after those 90 days no refunds or returns.

there's gotta be an easier way to clean a desk mat I'm not taking this shit off to clean in a bathtub I did that once it took like a week to dry out

>>106961432
In terms of raw raster it's around 30% faster which wouldn't exactly be considered a substantial upgrade but if you're on 1440p, or like modded textures or something, you'll probably appreciate the doubled buffer. RT should be substantially better as well but obviously neither card is going to run CP2077 Overdrive. Not the worst use of €100.

AMD is using more advanced node than Intel and Nvidia
its over
AMD dominance and stock rising

nobody cares because nobody uses Instinct cards lmao

ai bots already here to deflect

>>106961542
UDNA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nvidia next gen

just like RDNA2 > Ampere
Samsung 8nm (more like 10nm) dogshit compared to TSMC more advanced node that AMD uses

>>106961530
>>106961542
>>106961550
So yeah AMD won. 10800x3d + 10900xtx

>>106960693 (OP)
she's gonna get a cold like that.

subhuman posters already seething that nobody cares

>>106961432
Very so-so.
I'd say buy 9070 instead, but it will cost like 250 or even 300€.
How old your pc in general?
For me better to sell old one and buy something like 9600 + 9070 with am5 mb and ddr5 ram, so you get full upgrade. If you can affor it ofc.

Is the main reason to go for miniled contrast ratio?

>>106961530
>bleeding edge costs more
Waoawow how did Nvidia win again this generation what's their secret?!

>>106961567
the main reason is because you are scared of burn in but it'll still be inferior every way to OLED and still break in 2-3 years

monitor miniLED don't have nearly enough dimming zones to make them good

>>106961547
My brother worked in nvidia's marketing department for a year and he told me they have had a contract with a firm in India to shill on web forums like since 2018 as part of their big GeForce Partner Program marketing push.

>>106961590
your brother worked for nvidia? ew

. Found a 9070 XT Nitro+ (one of the top models) on sale for about $130 less than what I could sell my 5070 Ti for on the used marked where I live. I wanted to see for myself so I bought it.

Here are some things I found at 4k so far:

Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart max settings (with RT): More fps than the 5070 Ti, 10% maybe

Elden Ring: Less fps, but still good (about 95 fps in the expansion). Couldn’t find any FSR option in game, so I’m going to try AFMF and/or Lossless scaling later to reach 120 fps

Cyberpunk 2077: 10% less fps, Pathtracing no longer felt good to play with. Ultra RT with balanced FSR4 is still fantastic though. I actually prefer it now because the image looks sharper.

Oblivion Remastered: Exact same fps, but had some kind of problem with the FSR or frame gen that made grass look shimmery. Largely fixed by only using fsr4 at balanced.

Had to inject FSR4 into Death Stranding with Optiscaler to make it look good, but it was easy to do

DLSS4 in general looks a tiny bit better than FSR4, but it has come a very long way and 90% of the time I don’t notice the difference

The 9070 XT uses about 70-100W more when gaming. Can do a good deal of undervolting, but it’s not stable enough in all games to reach 5070 Ti level of power draw. So depending of electricity costs, take this into consideration. The Nitro+ has 30W higher TDP than the Pulse model, but still.

In my case, I will keep it the 9070 XT, because this particular model runs very cool and quiet and I got it for a good price. I have to make a few concessions and tweaks when gaming vs the 5070 Ti, but framerates are high enough that I don’t think much about it once I’m in a gaming session. Had it been a hotter and noisier model though, I would have kept my 5070 Ti, many games have better DLSS support and the games I play in general have better fps on the Nvidia card.

Hope this helps a little

Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 - 200W, 16C32T, 192MB L3 cache, 5.6GHz/4.3GHz.
Ryzen 7 9850X3D - 120W, 8C16T, 96MB L3 cache, 5.6GHz/4.7GHz.

intel is so fucking done its not even a joke anymore
how did amd managed to bring an 9800x3d basicly with 400mhz on the same tdp?

>>106961956
>how did amd managed to bring an 9800x3d basicly with 400mhz on the same tdp?
the 9800X3D was constrained by AMD to make the 9950X3D look better
the 9950X3D already does 5.5 GHz on the 3D CCD
don't expect all-core clocks to much higher, they are just removing the artificial clock limit

>>106961956
>Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 - 200W, 16C32T, 192MB L3 cache, 5.6GHz/4.3GHz.
If it means I will do not have to deal with xbox gamer bar and core parking "totally werks except when it doesn't" and "use only this power profile" bullshit I will stick $1000 on it easily.

>>106961956

gonna be a lot of tears from 9800X3D holders claiming the 9850X3D 400MHz boost is meaningless

>>106961956
>192mb

lmao imagine if this gives like a 15+ 20% boost

>>106961758
You are gonna be called a paid actor by both sides soon.
I appreciate the testing

>>106961550
RDNA2 sucked ass though, what are you talking about.

What's the best GPU for ₹20000

can i build something capable of running this game (goal is 1080p/60 lmao) for around $500 USD? only other requirement is that it can run the latest version of windows 10 LTSC, 21H2. i would prefer to go all AMD (since i'm used to that on my xbox ig) but that's not a big deal

i already have a monitor and peripherals.

>>106962191
Yeah should be no problem. You could meet the requirements with all-new parts or exceed them considerably if you're willing to go used and shop around.

>>106962191
absolutely thats extremely easy especially with how low the CPU requirement is.
A ryzen 5500 cpu, 32gb ram, psu/mobo/case will get you to about $350 if you have no existing PC to get parts from. Then you'd just need to take your pick of cheap GPU

>>106962184
Works on my machine

>>106962268
>enables path tracing in youre path

>>106960978
welcome brother . I have a 14700k

>>106961130
qrd?

>>106962158
ps5 gpu

>>106960693 (OP)
nice edition
have some older and nicher/older parts in my list (mobo, ram, psu) should I pick them up now or wait for a black friday discount?
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/92GwLc

>>106962571
>black friday discount
probably. also why buy two 500 gig satas for such a terrible price and not just get another 1tb nvme to go with your lexar?

>>106962622
>also why buy two 500 gig satas for such a terrible price
plan to use them as a mirrored download pool, have a delusion of adding a raid 5 das in the future...

>newegg "refurbished" 13600K for $150
Talk me out of it

>>106962822
If you wait a couple weeks you could get a new 14600k for the same price
Don't buy raptor lake used
As just general thoughts on the i5, well you're not getting anything better in the price range, it's quite a bit faster than the 9600x. Realistically you really want an aio

>>106962822
9600x or 7600x off aliexpress for 50 dollars more to not be stuck on a dead platform and the ability to upgrade to a vastly better cpu than anything lga 1700 can offer without having to build a whole new pc in the future, not just zen 6 but even zen 7 is rumored to come to AM5 now btw. Unless you need the best multicore productivity for cheap right this second I guess because you won't find anything better than that newegg deal.

>>106961956
This rumor once again. Cross CCD latency is still an issue and there won't be any meaningful performance gain for the 9950x3d2
400mhz boost on the 9850x3d will most likely be only present on 1T/2T tasks

>>106961555
it will be 11800x3d

+2

>>106962870
>not be stuck on a dead platform
lol like that actually matters any.

7800x3d tray = 312 usd
9800x3d = 445 usd

which one should i get
its kinda expensive here in russia

>>106962944
Doesn't matter, either way you are gonna be sent to the meatgrinder in a year and rot in a ditch

>>106962919
everyone making that argument is apparently going to get rich in 2 years because they're gonna cope with a 6 core CPU on a shit-tier motherboard with shit-tier RAM now, but when zen 6 comes out, you'll see
it will all be worth it

>>106962953
why would i be in da frontlines if we are winning ?

>>106962965
So much winning for your 3 day SVO.
1M dead and with your progress, you are gonna conquer Ukraine in the year 2135

>>106962996
>you are gonna conquer Ukraine
what ukraine
its already us
they speak russian dialect lmao

>>106962944
7800x3d. Please tell your leaders to hurry up with the annexing Ukraine thing so we can stop hearing their jewish president whine for more money on tv -The entire United States of America and I'm assuming Europe
>>106962958
Okay well 5 years from now it's time for an upgrade, it'll be cheaper and a better value to just buy a new socket. You're being disingenuous and you know it.
>implying AM5 isn't tapped out and the 11xxx processors won't just be a sidegrade

>>106962996
>1M
as real as the 6 million holocaust

>>106962944
the current consensus seem to be that the 9800x3d is better but not 130€ better
stick with the 7800x3d unless budget is non an issue

>>106962944
9800X3D is barely better for pure gaming, like 10% average so you're better off saving the money.

>>106962273
>you thought you won? HA! little did you know I was about to post my chart relating to useless technology!
RT won't save ncucks

>>106963074
seethe
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/mark-cerny-triggers-ps6-speculation-by-discussing-amd-tech-coming-to-a-future-console-in-a-few-years-time/

>Decide to buy
>Have second thoughts
>Prices SPIKE
Niggas, what the fuck is going on with RAM at the minute?

>>106963140
>playstation
>knack man
>ever doing the right thing
wew anon instead of rays nvidiot should attempt simulating more straws for you to grasp, you're about to run out

>>106963074
Don't reply to the deranged spammer

>>106962860
For black friday, you mean? Yeah you're probably right.
>>106962870
I'm just looking for a cheap and easy single-part upgrade. It would replace my 12400F.

>>106963196
>black friday
Yes. Try to find an aio while you're at it. 14 cores even if 8 of them are low power is going to run hot under full core worlkloads. Actually just playing games you would probably expect something like 30-80w
>>106963178
You know what's even more unhinged and arguably way more damaging to the general? Pic related

>>106963178
aren’t you the deranged spammer that spammed a thread with “kill yourself” for 200 posts because someone posted an average performance benchmark

>>106963267
>You're against this retard ruining the thread?
>You must be one of the other retards ruining the thread he fights with!!!
low iq post

Where exactly did all the 9800x3d performance go from early reviews? I distinctly remember DF making rave comparisons with the previous 7800x3d. Now the consensus is that the former is only a modest upgrade over the latter?

Ok how much market share will UDNA lose with this retard?

>>106960693 (OP)
>2025
>finally a case with the IO pointing downwards

New MSI miniLED monitors.
Mid-tier MAG models but it should use the MPG E16M’s local dimming algo that was approved by Monitors Unboxed.
27” 1440p 300Hz VA and 27” 4K 165Hz IPS

https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MAG-274QPF-X30MV
https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MAG-274UPDF-E16M

Doubt these will be as affordable as the KTC options.

>>106959337
>5700x3d isn't an upgrade over 3600
What is this nigger babbling for?

>>106963402
More 27" 4K MiniLED-IPS options are always good.

>>106963242
This other guy is in the hundreds of posts now too probably and has explicitly expressed he thinks the thread is boring without brand wars and his entire goal is to incite them with retarded spam.

The worst part is the mod does nothing and lets him waste multiple posts in every thread getting them closer to bump limit.

>>106963460
>The worst part is the mod does nothing and lets him waste multiple posts in every thread getting them closer to bump limit.
Don’t act like you don’t pull the same rage baiting bullshit to rush out the next thread.
Both of you are retarded.

>>106963327
you need TUNED ram to make the most of ryzen and every reviewer uses garbage ram or default expo which also has garbage timings.

tuned 6000cl30 is upwards to like 20-30% faster at dlss performance at 4k

>>106961530
so errrrm i was planning to build a 9070xt build in the next january , should i become a waitfag and wait for another year ?

I hope DDR6 goes back to the traditional "just buy whatever ram it says on your CPU box" method. CPU says DDR3-1600? Buy that. CPU says DDR4-2666? Buy that. Simple as.
>CPU says DDR5-5600? Lol, lmao even, 6000 CL30 or you're straight up BRICKED.
I want to go back.

>>106963619
If you don’t need the card soon, wait for better ones.

In my country, PCI 4 express nvme's are having a cost increase while PCI 5 a decrease...

I can find a 2TB, PCI5 for the same or less than a PCI4

Should I invest in a pci5 drive?
currently running a SN770

>>106963621
You were leaving performance on the table when you followed those DDR3 and DDR4 compatibility lists.

>>106963633
Get a PCIe5 drive if it costs similar/less than the gen4 if you need one.

>>106962944
anon browse wildberries or avito , sometimes sellers have neat offers which you can catch , but avito sellers are always the best if you are living in moscow , go for 7800x3d it has a better price/value rate

>>106963619
Wait for amd next gen or buy Nvidia now.

>>106963628
i have a 2060 or should i buy a 9060xt and upgrade my system to the upcoming rdna5 ? fuck me its a tough situation

>>106952704
> dropping the power limit by 20-30%
Why exacly?

>>106963691
What country? A 5060ti or 5070(or ti if you can afford it and aren't at 1080p) would probably be better upgrades and you don't have to wait any longer
And RDNA4 probably isn't going to age well.

>>106963714
i live in russia and 9070xt in here can be cheaper than the average 5070 in here

>>106963621
this dude ran his 9900K at DDR4-2666

bought an oled with decent hdr and 500hz for my gaming setup. what games impressed you when you moved to oled?

>>106963641
What's the difference, like 5-10% at most, in GPU-bound scenarios? You can probably make that up by just overclocking your GPU and/or checking 1 (one (uno)) graphical setting down from very high to medium.

>>106963726
Buy ayymd then for sure and don't get shilled by that nigger. Rdna 4 has good enough AI hardware now it will almost certainly receive future versions of fsr at least and age fine.

>>106963735
i'm gonna say exactly 50% and i'm just as right as you because we're both making numbers up

>>106963761
I used this video timestamp as reference but it could be just as full of shit as me so disclaimer
https://youtu.be/zm0vGHqJQto?t=1259

Hey is this a good pc for $350 shipped from China?

>>106963750
sure , my only issue is will the nvidigger make game devs to implement path tracing as an obligatory setting , i dont wanna deal with another unnecessary performance wasting technology

>>106963735
Yeah back in the DDR3 days you were good with 1333/1600. I believe mainly because the CPUs themselves had low latency (easy to do that with 4-core monolithic designs). By late DDR4 you were absolutely leaving performance on the table by using JEDEC timings. DDR5 is even worse and it's not going to get better because the big players all want more bandwidth, more compute, and more IO. 3D cache, and maybe other chip-stacking tech, should keep it in check to some extent though.

>>106961530
thats some ancient shit

>>106963809
>path tracing as an obligatory setting
They will be doing that in the near future, but still a 9070xt being cheaper than a 5070 sounds really rough.

>>106963775
5600 isn't bad if you have an EXPO kit with lower latency, like in the video
what AMD refers to on the spec sheet is DDR5-5600 CL48, JEDEC spec

>>106963805
>LGA1150
>RX550
Fuck no, that's the type of PC you dig up at a flea market for 50 bucks at most. The CPU in that thing is probably an i5 4440 and the GPU is worse than modern integrated graphics.

JeetyzReviews has joined into the fray! THIS IS NOT A DRILL!
reminder that he is a honorary schizotuber aligned in the fight against the mainstream tech sloppers

>>106963619
Buy now or w8 until next gen.
Simple af.

>>106963874
very exciting
happy for you bro

>>106963845
>DDR5-5600 CL48
I'm running pic related, manually tuned up from 5200MT CL40. I'd go for 6000MT CL36/38, but if my PC refuses to post, I'd have to open it and short the BIOS reset pins. All good and simple, but I paid the store I bought all my parts from to assemble it for me, and they put anti-tamper stickers on it, and I'm reluctant to break those just in case, even though I have individual parts warranty in theory...

>>106963902
go to bed Steve

>>106963817
The biggest difference today is benching was done assuming you wanted high resolution and detail, so the differences in RAM speed wasn't apparent.
Todays benches are SPECIFCLLY meant to bring out the biggest differences regardless of usecase.

If you where to run everything at 4k high, RAM differences would just be as minimal as the DDR3 days

>>106963885
well the worst case scenario is me selling the card on the 2nd hand market

>>106963914
none of that is AMD spec so your whole point is irrelevant
>I paid the store I bought all my parts from to assemble it for me
yeah, i could tell

>>106963805
do not do that
thats a nothing
if you need a pc on that budget you will have to rely on purchasing some older machine second hand around you
that thing is worse than a modern decent tablet

What computer cases have 4+ 5.25" bays? I am building a PC for work reasons (gaming is a secondary). I am a photographer for a living for things like weddings, birthday parties, graduations, and occasional PI stuff. I make extensive use of lightroom, photoshop, and premiere. I then burn DVDs and blu-rays, and 4K blu-rays for the customers on top of giving them a USB backup.
>inb4 use an external USB DVD drive
I go through a USB external DVD drive like once a fucking week and I regularly am burning 5+ discs a week and some times, more than one at a time. I use a paid copy of Nero burning utility to burn all my discs if that matters

2025 we still dippin'

>>106963918
Maybe there has been a shift, and one can argue that a CPU benchmark should actually test the CPU, but there was no shortage of 720p Low stuff back in the day either.

>>106964021
9800x3d should be removed from next op?

>>106960693 (OP)
what gpu is picrel? a fucking 6500xt?

>>106964052
nah most people wont tune and 9800x3d stock will be better than 14900k stock
plus general is seized by AMDrones and shilled by mainstream techtubers, bot that's beside the point

>>106964021
this is caused by monitoring software. specifically monitoring power draw. measuring power draw will fuck the x3d and cause it to stutter

>>106964021
holy wattage batman

qrd, i hear lunar lake cpus were designed for efficiency so that only p-cores dont kick in for most tasks but only turn on when you need them

is that true and does it work like that for desktop intel cpus as well?

>>106964052
we could do it for one thread but only because nicotroon would have a melty
>>106964098
a sawtooth graph like that should immediately tell you there's some misconfiguration on your part
but let's milk it for views instead
>>106964102
BF6 uses all your cores even if it doesn't provide any performance benefit
it looks like that on the 9950X3D as well
there's some config file you can edit to limit thread count, idk, i only played the beta
>>106964121
>does it work like that for desktop intel cpus as well?
no
and it shouldn't
desktops should always prioritize maximum performance

>>106964098
>this is caused by monitoring software. specifically monitoring power draw. measuring power draw will fuck the x3d and cause it to stutter
He is literally the same guy that made a video on the topic you are describing, dannyzreviews
ask him why he leaved it on and if it fucked with the results

>>106964102
almost as if more coars draw more power

>>106963460
>The worst part is the mod does nothing and lets him waste multiple posts in every thread getting them closer to bump limit.
You mean just like nico poster does whenever (and I mean literally every time) he takes a break for 5 minutes and can't make the thread?
If like 3 different amd schizos are able to post the same spam for years what harm is some version of a dlss schizo really even doing at that point?

>>106964150
>desktops should always prioritize maximum performance
what about europoors with their exoensive electricity bill

>>106964121
That’s because Lunar Lake is designed for ultra thin laptops.
Windows’ power setting allows you to set these CPUs to prioritize P Core utilization over E cores.

>>106964159
your desktop isn't a major contributing factor to your electric bill
unless you have a 5090 i guess lmao

>>106964150
>a sawtooth graph like that should immediately tell you there's some misconfiguration on your part
>but let's milk it for views instead
Source?
Did you double test it on that custom map with dlss upscaling on similar systems?

>>106964172
wow sweaty klaus schwab said this is bad for the environment

>>106964181
it's common sense, periodic stuttering is almost always your fault
you have some shit running in the background causing the game to lag when it wakes up
in this case it's afterburner

>>106964236
>in this case it's afterburner
he made a video on that exact topic, so you saying he fucked up or intentionally manipulated data for amdips?
could be
to be continued

>>106963874
AM dip?

>>106964098
>this is caused by monitoring software
this is caused by novideo having drivers so dogshit they can't even get such a basic feature like sensor readings right
amd gpus don't have this problem

>>106964279
Finally a correct answer

>pcpartpicker doesn't actually properly list cases with 5.25" bays
>cases that blatantly have 3x 5.25" bays or more flag as incompatible when you actually add optical drives to the list
>no options to add USB expansion PCIe cards

What a shit fucking website. Anyways, for adobe premiere I was looking at getting the Intel Ultra 9 285k solely because of its quicksync utility. However, would I be better served by the Ryzen 9950x3d for non adobe uses compared to the Ultra 9?

>>106964260
>so you saying he fucked up or intentionally manipulated data
of course
i mean i didn't watch the video and i don't care about your new favorite youtuber
but of course
>>106964279
does this happen with other monitoring software like hwinfo? this could be confirmed in 30 seconds by any NVIDIA GPU owner in this thread

>>106964261
The act of amd cpus dropping .1% lows as famously coined by a balding canadian man years ago

>>106964279
nv gpus used in all historic amdippin' series

>>106964333
>>106964297
>>106964279
>>106964335
For a while it's been said to ditch MSI afterburner because it causes stutters and crashing for both Nvidia and AMD. Hwinfo64 doesn't have this problem or Adrenaline/RyzenMaster.

>>106964333
>new
welcome to the thread newfag
not new

>>106964356
people in the comments of that video say it happens with other monitoring polling software too

>>106964356
and people were saying it still happens after this btw

>>106964365
It doesn't happen for GPU-Z either. Neither the same bus tools for Linux.
MSI afterburner is flawed and garbage software. It doesn't happen to reputable official software.

>>106964381
>>106964356
>>106964333
>>106964236
>>106964098
response to the monitoring thing
too lazy to go check what he solved here but here it is

>>106964357
lmao
there's only one person spamming about this shit and it's you
i don't pay attention to what techtuber did this thing or said that thing this week, no one cares
go to the E-celeb board
>>106964374
capframex also uses RTSS

it seems everyone in this thread has AMD GPUs
or most of you are phoneposting
the second theory seems more likely

>>106964409
>jewish company known to line pockets of shills
>does the very thing that is known to cause these stutters (no, other software isnt immune to this. its a polling hardware problem. no software can bypass it).
>"whatever, helps with the algorithm"

gee i wonder what his motivations are

>>106964422
>i don't pay attention to what techtuber
sure you test every latest and all hardware independently with your double mirrored system and report back based on your own personal data, fuck off
what the fuck even is this comment?
next level cope here
you know what every other mainstream techtuber are
anyway

>>106964440
he responded to the problem mentioned

Look at all these Radeon shills running damage control for the AMDip.

>>106962298
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106952182/#q106952648

>>106964475
>sure you test every latest and all hardware independently with your double mirrored system and report back based on your own personal data, fuck off
no i'll look things up if i'm upgrading my rig
but i don't care about techtuber drama
very cringe
and your bullshit detector should be firing when you see those videos
>>106964503
we weren't even talking about radeon but sure let's start another brand war
i'm going to roleplay as radeon man and you can roleplay as geforce man
let's post random screenshots and graphs with no context for 5 hours straight

>>106963402
pass needs double that at the very minimum

>106964503
>buckbroken nvidiot can't stop thinking about radeon even when the discussion is ryzen processors
LMAO

>>106964330
>non adobe uses
like what
at any rate the 285K would be the best bet

>CLEARANCE
>SALE
>it's just msrp instead of scalper price
I hate newegg so much

>>106964553
NVIDIA drivers isn’t exactly a Ryzen CPU.
Wonder why Intel CPUs don’t dip while running the same NVIDIA display drivers.
>>106964279


>>106964566
Only one buckbroken here is you.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106737389/

>>106964610
just buy it
they won't ever be a good price until the new shit is released
and that 9850X3D is on the cards for CES 2026 announcement rn

Troony meltdown over leaking clitty incoming

>>106961758
Thanks for complex comparison between those two cards. Im also on the fence with my GPU choice. Ill wait for black friday deals and see which one (if any) gets better discounts and decide accordingly.

These Radeon shills are so dumb, they blame NVIDIA drivers for the dip when the 14900K using the same NVIDIA driver and performance monitoring software doesn’t cause those dips in >>106964021

If the content creator didn’t disable the Afterburner/RTSS Power % readings, the dips would be happening on the Intel side as well.
It’s all a conspiracy with these retards.

>>106964628
Id rather wait for the 9600x3d.
But I hate how there's hardly any sales anymore it's just "yeah goy you get a clearance on MSRP"

>>106964618
>Wonder why Intel CPUs don’t dip while running the same NVIDIA display drivers
that's a much more interesting question
could be a driver or firmware quirk, could be some issue with the code in RTSS
i have a 9070 XT so i'm working in the dark here
feel free to provide screen recordings, we're waiting
>>106964696
you can keep a sensor active in afterburner while keeping it hidden from the OSD
now that's a conspiracy

>>106964021
I'm sure this indian-canadian man has been thorough with his testing. I for one completely trust him

>>106964333
>does this happen with other monitoring software like hwinfo?
yes, it's an nvapi problem, any software is affected.

>>106964743
Even if that guy kept the GPU power % active and hidden, it incurs the same CPU resource penalty that would appear on the 14900K’s frametime graph.
That specific reading isn’t created by the Afterburner guy btw.

>>106964553
then why are you commenting about current hardware if you don't care? Hoooly

Regarding the stutters and polling the stats so pic related
it's not necessarily related to %/w sensor but total latency? or am I getting it right? too tired
posting

>and your bullshit detector should be firing when you see those videos
nah dips have been dippin since ryzen launch

>>106964696
>the dips would be happening on the Intel side as well.
when this came out and I read about it not happening on intel systems, but then people were also reporting it happening on their intel systems
hit or miss depending on system
idk
anyway, pic

>>106964757
canuck is a bigger hit to ones credibility than jeetin

AMDip is real whether some fanboys want to blame NVApi.
The power % just makes it more obvious.
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/601908674063068182/

>>106964618
I won that thread doebeit
>>106964707
>Id rather wait for the 9600x3d
I hope this is available before the end of the year too for my new pc but I have a job now so maybe I will just get 9800x3d even.

Installed a Ryzen 9700X in an old case (Corsair 500R).

With my Noctua I would hit 95°C on the smallest thing and my idle was terrible.
I purchased a Phantom Spirit 120, but even with that it's less than optimal. In the menu of BF6 I get 95°C. In-game it's the same (I can at least hit 180fps as a consolation).

I went romanian mode and tried to stick my old noctua on the phantom as I could, still the same.

When quitting the game it takes 1m to idle at 62°C. As soon as I use my keyboard the fans are just full throttle (1500RPM).

I ran some OCCT earlier without the GPU, as soon as the 1 minute stress tests were over, I would idle around 52°C (open case). Closed case seems to be around 62°C.

Any guidance or tips? I'll post picture of the computer next.

>>106964792
Power % is a CPU intensive real time sensor, it costs over 10ms on Intel CPUs.
The next CPU demanding sensor is core clock at least than 2ms.

That 14900K frametime wouldve been affected as well if Power % reading was enabled.

>>106964829
I'd take it all out the case and test it that way to see if it's just getting starved of any airflow

>>106964796
amdip is caused by msi afterburner

>>106964829
Here's the romanian mode

>>106964801
You won the biggest loser award, brought to you by the jannies + a well deserved ban.
You just exposed yourself of being a retard in this thread. Nothing changes.

>>106964861
Are opened bench known to have good thermals, at least better than in a case?

>>106964829
>>106964859
If you're sure you haven't botched the installation it would appear you simply do not have enough sufficient airflow coming through this old case. GPU blowing hot air up probably not helping either.

>>106964864
The dip also affects Intel CPUs if the GPU Power % sensor is active.
Cope.

>>106964900
okay? just stop using msi afterburner and other garbage third party windows crap. use linux already.

>>106964829
Keep the side open and place fan for air injection.
Air streams look awfull with all those lack of space and hdds.

>>106964792
>then why are you commenting about current hardware if you don't care?
i do
that's why i'm here arguing about it all the time like everyone else
but i don't care about your favorite youtuber
>or am I getting it right? too tired posting
idk i might read through that tomorrow
but he says there's a performance profiler
so just open that and see what it says jesus christ why is everyone ignoring the obvious solution
>>106964796
99% chance this dude has bloatware running in the background and sexy ladies dancing on his desktop
why are we using the steam forums as a source
just test it yourself, AMD+NVIDIA is the most popular combination and approved by reddit so surely one of you has that in your system
>>106964909
lol based mangohud never stutters

>>106964859
>cpu cooler intake fan is facing case exhaust fan
...are you fucking trolling or what
>>106964874
yeah let's add yet another fan that intakes towards an exhaust one, that's gonna help things out!

>>106963402
>27” 1440p 300Hz VA
>$400
I think the AOC Q27G4ZMN is only $100 less than this and is 240hz. I'll have to wait for reviews.

>>106964909
Can’t escape the Ryzen microstutters.
The post you’re replying to shows a system that didn’t use Afterburner at all.

>>106964887
well they'll be better than an oven case
but honestly that thing is looking pretty starved and that GPU probably isn't helping any thing
....are your fans mounted the right way? bro i swear your fans are on the wrong side

>>106964859
the thermalright cooler is installed backwards

>>106964859
>>106964874
>>106964929
>>106964963
>>106964980
kek i love this general

>>106964043
>using skyrim, an xbox 360 primary title, as a benchmark

>>106964980
depends which way the cooler fans are pointing, if they are pushing air towards the front of the case then they are installed the wrong way and need to be flipped around.

>>106964859
>>106964874
bro the fans are backwards bro

>>106965025
but they're mounted incorrectly even if they were to be facing the correct direction
you need an intake fan at the front of the cooler, you can't do pull-pull and no push, it just doesn't work, it's almost as bad as running the cooler with no fans at all at that point.

>>106964893
I never had problem with thermal paste but I'm starting to wonder if I fucked up somewhere.
Apparently 9700X is known to be hot but not that hot under load.

>>106964929
No, the flow of air is in the correct way. Fans are not in a different order. The 3 CPU fans + the case exhaust fan are pulling in the same way.

>>106964963
>>106964980
I actually mounted them the wrong way first time refering to the usual stickers on them. When I put a thin paper on them it seems to go in the right way, towards the exhaust.

If I put them the other way they blow towards the front of the case.

>>106964924
Full speed. Idling at 60°C. Battlefield 6 Menu I had 92°C before it maxed again slowly.

>>106964893
>If you're sure you haven't botched the installation
do you not have functioning eyes? what the fuck

>>106965083
bro just mount it the other way and check the temps
i know you think that's right but just do that and see for yourself

>>106965020
Yes it's not very useful from a technical standpoint but a reviewer needs to cover their bases. In 2012 there's a real chance your readers are building a PC /for/ Skyrim. If perhaps not at 720p but IIRC HardwareCanucks also benched at 1080p.

>>106965083
If it's not thermal paste then my CPU is broken or something. Am I supposed to screw the ventirad real hard to maximize pressure ? I went firm but not to tight. I could have screw a lot more if I wanted to.

>>106965083
>No, the flow of air is in the correct way.
...cool
then your'e still a retard, see >>106965077
you can't just run your cooler without a push fan at the front, and I have no fucking idea why you would even think of setting them up like this
you removed the most important fan that is supposed to do 90% of the work, to instead put it in place of the least important fan that does pretty much nothing as the rear case fan is literally two millimiters behind it doing the same thing already.
plus the entire cooler is still mounted the other way around clearly
...all of this retardation could've been avoided by just installing the heatsink the way it's supposed to like a normal functioning human being would.

>>106965130
>>106965077

Do you mean I have to change the order of them? Like put the left on the right and vice-versa?

You tards know he is trolling you, right?

>>106965083
anon
dont make me take out the mspaint to color the lines of where the air is supposed to go
unscrew that thing and set it the right way

>>106965139
I mean you have to install the cooler the way it's supposed to.
>Like put the left on the right and vice-versa?
...why vice versa? you'd be not changing anything at that point
i'm pretty confident you're just trolling now

>>106965157
I really hope that's the case.

>>106964926
intel+radeon, flat frametime graph
power % doesn't even seem to exist on AMD
but i wouldn't use this software at all if any random spike in CPU or polling activity is going to cause stuttering in games

>>106965168
Thanks mate. >>106965130 surely had the answer but it's uncool reading such vibes. I'll try that.

>>106965174
>>106965157
My intellect is hidden behind a surprise effect for more effectiveness on my enemies.

>>106965168
but then he would also have to flip the fans cause apparently he installed them backwards as well
what a retard

>>106965139
>>106965168

>>106964859
I think your cpu is trying to pull air from an exhaust fan and blowing your cpu exhaust into your intake...

>>106965186
>intel+radeon
...why

>>106965212
why not? please write at least two paragraphs explaining why that's a bad combination
you're allowed to use chatgpt

>>106965192
>>106965195
>but then he would also have to flip the fans cause apparently he installed them backwards as well
Heed that too, you want the fan on the heatsick to suck air into the heatsink, if you are correct that it was pushing the thin piece of paper away then you mounted it wrong (i dont even know if thats possible i thought those came already mounted but w/e)
you want it to suck air into the heatsinks

>>106965157
maybe and if so some anons had a good chuckle but in case he wasn't im happy that he got help

>>106965195
i do not know how he's done that
incredible

>>106965174
>

Currently playing through on AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT
100+ FPS 1440p max settings with FSR 4 Quality

>>106965344
now imagine if it was DLSS4

i dont really play vidya but i see this mentioned a lot might as well ask
>DLSS
Thats nvidias "fake" frame generation tech
>FSR
Thats radeons "fake" frame generation tech
Right? and then those can also be used to upscale instead (or in addition) to generating "fake" frames?

where redstone?

>>106965378
they're both upscaling tech that recently got frame interpolation ("framegen") tech as well under the same "brand name"
the SS/SR in the names stand for super sampling and super resolution respectively

>>106965373
Do not need to imagine anything. The game looks very good and sharp with FSR 4
>>106965423
Less than 2 months. I'm excited to finally do my playthrough of cyberpunk 2077 after it comes out.

>>106960693 (OP)
>>MONITOR
>https://www.rtings.com/monitor
What happened to the monitor recommendations? This is just shitty articles that try and sell you whatever gets them the most referral money

Redpill me on RGB case fans. I want white fans with 2000+ rpm but decent lighting, not a faint glow. I've already picked out Lian Li UNI Fan SL LCD Wireless because it can display on a little LCD screen. Any decent recommendations?

>>106965500
>little LCD screen
these come for free with your HRT

>>106965499
the faggot making those shill ops needed to save characters for some further spam

>>106965186
>power % doesn't even seem to exist on AMD
The Afterburner maintainer (Unwinder) pulled the "Power %" sensor that's hidden in NVIDIA's driver; it's practically a deprecated sensor that shouldn't be enabled to begin with.
NVIDIA's first-party performance overlay in the NVIDIA App doesn't use this GPU Power % sensor.
Pic shows the cost of running that sensor between AMD & Intel CPUs, it will fluctuate between 8~20ms if you leave it on, haven't seen the 50ms peak he mentioned.

The 14900K's frame time would've been affected if that sensor had been enabled for sure.

>>106965499
So your saying the reviews are fake?

>>106965168
Look at all that wasted space on defunct technology. Damn you really use spinning bricks? You can get an nvme 8TB gen 5 SSD that slots under a motherboard heatsink.

>>106965490
>He thinks even after redstone he'll be able to play rt overdrive on a 9070xt

>>106965083
>Idling at 60°C.
Damn it's GTX 480 all over again.

>>106965535
>Pic shows the cost of running that sensor between AMD & Intel CPUs, it will fluctuate between 8~20ms if you leave it on, haven't seen the 50ms peak he mentioned
yeah that's bad
i feel like any review using afterburner needs to have that profiler window shown from now on, at least for a few seconds
lol what a mess

>>106965539
I'm saying basing your build off of articles with referral links is fucking retarded

>>106965542
>defunct
Hardly

Are entry level ~325 euro MiniLED VA Monitors like the AOC G3 Q27G3XMN/BK actually any good and worth the price, compared to ~200 euro regular old IPS monitors with same size, resolution and refresh?

>>106965588
I'm curious what you've got on there, did you just accumulate them over the years and don't have the heart to throw them out? I used to have an Antec 1200 case that had room for like 12 of them but never had storage setup like that.

>>106965657
>Q27G3XMN
There are better miniLED monitors like the KTC M27T6 or MSI 274QPF-X30MV.
The MSI one won't be cheap, $400 in the US.
It's only worth it if you care about HDR gaming/content consumption.
$100~200 1440p IPS monitors are fine for SDR gaming

I was going to call OP a fag for his SSD recommendation but I guess I got rekt

alright lads. havent upgraded my case in quite a while. im using a fractal r something. it was marketed as a "silent" case. Im guessing times have changed - as everything has a fan curve now so cases are basically open now?

the best way to keep things silent is have cooler temps instead of dampen sound with foam.. is that the theory? anyway so I have 2 intake fans at the front, double fan on the cpu heatsink, no exhaust fan. If i were to buy another fan i may as well get another case with 3 included fans. coolermaster frame 4000d at £80 looks good.

>>106965655
but amd said it's not happening it's too expensive there were no gains etc

>>106965204
>>106965168

So I did this. It's a bit better, like 2-3°C, but not enough to be a difference in-game. That's with side panel open, ambiant temperature 22°C.

All in all, I had better perf with a single Noctua on his smaller ventirad, as I could hit 50°C idle instead of 60°C.

Where do I go from there -
Change paste again and commit sudoku?
Is my CPU defective ?
Do I tighten the ventirad to the max?
Invest in an AIO + new case to fit it?

I don't see how just a new case could help me if I'm struggling opened.

Rate my edit to the real threads monitor list :

1080p: MAG 255XFV, MAG 276CXF, KTC H25X7
1440p: 180hz IPS slop is current meta, on this spec brand is your choice. Q27G3XMN or KTC M27T6 (miniLED), Gigabyte MO27Q28G or LG 27GX700A-B (WOLED)
4K: Dell S2725QS, KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>>106965744
are you sure the fans are facing the right way
post the fans to see the direction

>>106965739
>blowing warm air directly under your PSU
Great job.

>>106965692
It's a bunch of 4TBs at the bottom, the two above are 18TBs
Can't say I have the heart to throw them out, all but one have zero signs of trouble after almost 75000 hours. Even the bad one grew a few bad sectors but runs just fine regardless.

Case holds 44 HDDs, so it's not like they need to be gotten rid of just to make room for another pool/vdev.

>>106965767
thank you

>>106965747
Use fewer words,
>180hz IPS slop is current meta, on this spec brand is your choice
just say 27" 180Hz IPS if that's your message.

>Q27G3XMN
Old with fewer local dimming zones than the KTC or MSI miniLED monitors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LijzzvJ5Jf0

You should include a 32" 4K monitor recommendation IPS or OLED wtvr.

>255XFV
Terrible stand

>276CXF
Terrible stand, 27" 1080p, curved

>H25X7
You don't need to recommend high Hz monitors, people who are specifically shopping for these won't need to reference the OP.
Stick to more affordable 165~180Hz IPS options.

>>106965756
I turned the fans OFF to take the pic while the PC ran. 0 RPM or 1100RPM there's like 3°C difference at best.

I love my Odyssey G5 G50D a lot. I know it's the most basic bitch 1440p 27" 180Hz IPS, but it's still a nice display for gaymang and watching stuff.

>>106965842
I'm happy for you. IPS monitors are still nice.

>>106965842
>1440p

>>106965744
>Do I tighten the ventirad to the max?
can you please clarify on this point? did you place it over the cpu and gave it a couple turns per screw and called it a day? is it wobbly? is the heatsink making full contact on the cpu?

>>106965872
What, I should've gotten the meme 27 inch 720p 720Hz cumpetitive shit?

>>106965739
If you aren't watercooling why don't you consider an ITX build? Lots of cool builds on Youtube, small form factor is "in" right now.

You can find great chinkshit cases from aliexpress too.

>>106965874
It's not wobbly at all. I could pull a full mother board by the ventirad without a problem. The screw have some kind of spring holding the tension, so I stopped at the step I described before, but I could screw more without difference noticeable by hand.

>>106965883
[Looks right through you disappointedly in 4K UHD]

>>106965744
Did you apply enough torque & even mounting pressure when you installed that CPU cooler?
You need a new case or learn how to undervolt that CPU. Start by setting a -10 CO in the BIOS' PBO option (usually somewhere in the CPU tuning tab). A stronger negative offset will require extensive stability testing.
If you're lazy, find the PBO option in your BIOS and enable Eco Mode, it will make your CPU run more power efficiently at the cost of 10~15% performance.

>>106965841
Well, you fan setup is fucked and that 1 exhaust isn't enough
most likely in game your gpu flowthrough is dumping hot air right into where the cooler is expecting fresh air
your case fans are also pretty much only feeding the gpu, and that's after going through those hdd cages
you gpu temps are fine right? they have that side fan feeding them too
but for the cpu it's basically an oven
get a better case

>>106965911
looks back at you at 500hz but you didnt realise because I already looked at you and then looked away faster than your monitor could react

>>106965947
I was thinking about ECO mode, as it’s indeed ON by default, though I was expecting being able to use the power mode "natively " with a standard cooler.

Im gonna do paste again an count my screw turns trying to level it as best as I can.

If it still fails ECO mode. If ECO mode fails I'll try to send it back. I bought ot from a spanish reseller on Alie Express with a very good profile, so far that’s to settle too on the CPU quality.

Thanks for the tips about PBO I'll see how it goes.

>>106965963
GPU never goes above 60C full charge at 40% fan speed. Though the new case is only secondary to a wider space between CPU and GPU no? Implying another motherboard?

>>106965988
>inverse ghosts causing you to miss

>>106965902
you should be able to screw until you notice a very noticeable resistance by those springs
you should know without a doubt that you have reached the point

>>106966029
>Im gonna do paste again an count my screw turns trying to level it as best as I can.
Alternate the screw rotation from one side to the other.
https://youtu.be/Mm4hyIHe1PM?t=607

Poor mounting pressure cost my CPU around 5% performance.

1080p or 1440p for a secondary monitor? @60/75 or maybe even 100hz

Noob here, I need a more portable set up than tower + monitor as I go 7x/month to another place in my city to mostly work on UE5/blender and some work on a drawing tablet. I don't really need a laptop as I will only travel to this place and I always have access to power and internet. Will a setup like pic related (portable dual screen + micro pc) + rustdesk to remote control my PC from home be enough? Or should I build a dedicated SFF pc instead?

>>106966070
Get a 1080p for a 2ndary unless you need a 27" monitor.

>>106966070
Cheapest 1080p IPS monitor you can find with digital inputs, none of that VGA/DVI bullshit.
IPS is key because if it's off to the side you'll be looking at it at an angle, so VA/TN will look like dogshit, while IPS will hold onto it's color.

>>106966073
god just buy a z13 flow
yes it's expensive suck it up

>>106965792
>You should include a 32" 4K monitor recommendation IPS or OLED
Like which one?
>H25X7
I still like this suggestion

1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), Gigabyte MO27Q28G or LG 27GX700A-B (WOLED)
4K: Dell S2725QS, KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>>106965114
>I went firm but not to tight. I could have screw a lot more if I wanted to.
>>106966052
>>106966061
he has mentioned two times not screwing the heatsink fully.... it has to be it

>>106966073
https://www.tiktok.com/@wepc/video/7239725268129025307

Or get a mini PC with vesa mount on the back of your monitor

What the fuck is this shit? What have they done to my youtube, I want my normal buttons back.

>>106966086
>>106966078
How about the BenQ GW2490 or AOC 24G4? willing to spend around $100, US

>>106966132
Either would be fine. The only real difference is the refresh rate anyways.

>>106966124
new ui is based. no shitty vignette

>>106966124
I just saw it a few mins ago and now its back to the old one lol.

Guys

>>106966228
i commend you for trying to keep finding ways to waste ppl's time

>>106966228
At least the plastic film hasn't melted to the cold plate. Keeping this thread's archive link.

>>106966238
meh, wasted more time staging the photo

>>106966238
You're a bitch a will die a bitch.

>>106966093
>>You should include a 32" 4K monitor recommendation IPS or OLED
>Like which one?
Looks like there's nothing affordable to recommend.
Prices are ridiculous, so you might as well buy a 31.5" QD-OLED monitor.

Next:
>>106966278
>>106966278
>>106966278

>early bake
disgusting

>>106966093
>S2725QS
This is a terrible gaming monitor btw.

>>106965657
you should see if europe has access to the newer aoc Q27G4ZMN

>>106966317
ask mods to remove the shitpost brandwar spam and jeet images?

>>106960693 (OP)
R8 my retarded sub $1000 build

> $260 Ryzen 8700G
> $80 2x8GB RAM DDR5-6000 CL32
> $110 AssRock mobo
> $60 mid PSU, gold
Thinking of maybe throwing in a used 1650 to fuck with lossless scaling down the line when I get more scratch

A bit of buyers remorse, got the RTX 5070 for 470 bucks.
But it's already known that 12GB Vram won't be even enough for FHD at max details for many games to come.

>>106967196
>But it's already known that 12GB Vram won't be even enough for FHD at max details for many games to come.
Since when?

>>106967196
I'm sure it'll be fine, but everyone said 16GB was the minimum you should be purchasing.

>>106967196
Return it if you have regrets.

>>106967076
ASRock board is a bit questionable, should be okay if it's the HDV M.2

What IPS 1440p monitor should I go for under $200?

>>106967288
Dell Alienware AW2725DM if you're in the US.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JPKnTW/dell-alienware-aw2725dm-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-aw2725dm

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/armfn/saved/3X4snQ Is there anything wrong with this build /pcbg/ I live in some pieceofshitkistan like country. Honestly I don't have better options, I only want to know if something is shit, so I start searching for alternatives.

>>106967359
Your part list is private.

>>106967413
I'm a Faggot, thanks. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/armfn/saved/3X4snQ

>>106967462
Parts all look fine, just make sure everything fits inside that case.

>>106960693 (OP)
>AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.

Retard faggot this is NOT PC GAMING BUILDING GENERAL

>>106967494
thanks!

>>106962273
>enables path tracing in youre path
>0.00001% users actually enable it or use it
yeah its time to kys

did i do this right

>>106968068
what test even is that?

>>106968153
Nomad donut steel

>>106967359
>>106967462
Everything is perfectly fine yeah. I'd just take a look at 750-850w PSUs if they're not too much more expensive if you intend to stuff in a higher end GPU down the line

What's a good budget for a monitor? I have no idea what I should be looking to spend or at what price I start to see diminishing returns. I don't need anything for gaming, I just need a good screen for watching movies. Right now I use a Dell U2415 and S2721QS.

>>106967076
the 1650 is slower than your IGPU, unless you are talking about using your GPU for upscaling your IGPU graphics (disabling your 1650).
The 8700g has the same IGPU as the 8600g, you are just paying for more cores, and a slightly reduced IO (your 16x slot turns into a 8x slot, this won't affect performance even by 1%, but you won't be able to use a x8 GPU with a nvme slot)
I would shill you to buy a handheld and just plug it into a PC setup + monitor.
The problem is that your SSD is cucked, unless you buy a USB 4 hub (with displayport alt mode, like $40 if it's 10Gbps usb 3 speeds, $100-200 if you want usb 4 40Gbps speeds, which is similar to a gen 3 NVME AKA ~3000MB/s) and usb 4 nvme enclosures ($40) such as maiwo or whatever.
I am looking at the Legion Go 2, neat design, but it's expensive since for a bit more you could get the GPD win 5 with a AI max 385 which has 2x more GPU power (similar to a 4060).

rgb shit gaming rig for teenage nephew. is the 16gb 9060xt overkill? i want it to last a few years, he's casual PS5 gamer now.
no allegiance to intel or amd, i just figured the 12600k was cheaper per fps, and has the igpu for backup since i assume he'll screw up the build somehow.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DdsDPJ

>>106968068
>not even on the leaderboard
are you even trying bro?

>>106967196
wait... you bought a GPU and you didn't even buy it for a game?
so you just... upgraded, for fun?

Does RAM brand matter or should I just get the cheapest for 2x16 GB

>>106968523
brand doesn't really matter but the speed and timings do, so if you just go by cheapest it will be slow

thoughts on this nas/media server/music production build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HJFvBq

are msi cases any good? I'm thinking of buying an MAG FORGE 321R AIRFLOW

Are these good temperatures under heavy load? (4K 144fps)
CPU cooler is Phantom Spirit 120 SE

>>106968785
those gpu temps indicate you should repaste stuff
cpu is relatively cool

>>106968428
For movie watching, pick a 1080p or 4K monitor.
VA panels have better contrast but poorer viewing angles than IPS.
Flat 32" 4K monitors are too big with their bad viewing angles, you'll need a curved monitor for that size.
I'd rather get the KTC M27P6 27" 4K miniLED monitor if you plan to get this monitor resolution.

>>106968460
You can go even cheaper with the CPU and get a 12400F, he's only missing out on some top end boost clock and a few E-Cores.
PSU is overkill, but the cheaper ones are only about a $20 saving.
>16gb 9060xt overkill? i want it to last a few years
If your aim is longevity, no.

>>106968632
Parts look fine for a 5700G build.

>>106968741
It looks okay, not great. The airflow for the front panel's bottom fan is partially blocked by that plastic design element.
Not bad if you can get it for $70 in the US.

>>106968785
CPU temps are fine. I would use HWInfo instead.
HWInfo has direct contact with major processor manufacturers. He's already added Intel's next gen CPU (Nova Lake-S) sensor compatibility.
https://www.hwinfo.com/version-history/

>>106968880
I meant to say flat 32" VA 4K monitors will suffer from poor viewing angles, not 32" monitors in general.
Flat IPS & OLED 32" 4K monitors are fine, but pricey.
You're better off buying a 4K OLED TV for movie watching instead.

>>106968894
flat 4k oled is ridiculously good at maintaining colors from extreme anges and my 27" va is only tolerable from straight ahead

I've been out of the PC building scene for a while since I was moving around for work, but my laptop is finally crapping out and I think it's about time for a proper desktop
I'm planning on both playing vidya and doing some work on loonix :) so I went with 8 cores and 32GB ram, and I plan on getting more monitors down the line for multitasking
Any thoughts?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BV4HPJ

>>106969322
Buy a 9070XT instead of the 6800XT.
Rest looks fine.

>>106969322
You can get a new 7800x3d for $300 and a 9800x3d for $400, prices might even get better next month.

>>106968494
>so you just... upgraded, for fun?
What disposable income does to a full-time j*b mf

Is there any reason why the 4090 is more expensive than the 5090 right now? Used models are selling for $2500.