Thread 106970047

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500F
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Mid range: Lian Li GA II Lite, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>106960693

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

COMMON LIES BEING PERPETRATED BY TROLLS AND SHILLS ITT DEBOONKED 1/2

>RADEON HAS BAD DRIVERS!!!
They have been fine for years and have the same amount of problems that Nvidia drivers have or less. Most problems occur with productivity applications which is why Radeon gpus are not recommended for workstations. If you are just gaming you are unlikely to ever have any issues, especially if you only update to the latest driver when you need to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lv4-poQOyo

In contrast for the first few months Blackwell had major driver issues that are only now mostly fixed. Premium day one GeForce buyers that paid the nviditax had a worse early adopter experience than Radeon buyers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXoUsdSAnA

>RADEON HAS CPU OVERHEAD!!!!
It does not. Nvidishills likes to spam charts of cherry picked DX 11 games like KCD that do not play well with radeon but in reality if anything Nvidia has a worse overhead in CPU limited scenarios. Screenshot and videos below for proof.
https://imgur.com/a/A5MIHM6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiElNex2OC0&t=210s
Radeon "CPU Overhead" in Warzone chart that the Nvidishill used to spam debunked: https://imgur.com/a/yy3MZRS

>9000 SERIES MSRP AND SUPPLY WAS A LIE!!!
Nvidia normally supplies over half of the market, this time they made almost no GPU's and AMD despite making a large amount of cards is unable to fufill all of this demand effectively. The result is a low supply high demand market and increased prices. However besides the US which is also impacted by tariffs the 9070 XT in many regions with some effort can be purchased for around 700 dollars or less. The card will likely go back down to MSRP around January next year when the Supers from Nvidia come out to remain competitive.

>>106970066
2/2

>FSR4 IS IN NO GAMES!!!
Almost every game that has upscaling can be easily modded with Optiscaler to support FSR4. The result is better than native image quality in games with bad TAA. Cyberpunk 2077 before native support was added could be modded with Optiscaler, the game can run ultra RT at 80-90 fps and 50-60 fps pathtracing with good image quality using FSR4 on quality mode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNzI-TBV--A
https://github.com/cdozdil/OptiScaler

Native FSR4 integration will get better into the future with many games planned to have support added this year. Because of AMD's collaboration with Sony on Project Amethyst and PSSR it's likely that all future games with a console release will have FSR4 on PC.
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/processors/the-amd-x-sony-collab-gave-us-fsr4-and-a-version-will-appear-in-playstation-next-year-too-having-already-started-to-implement-the-new-neural-network-on-ps5-pro/

>WHERE ARE OTHER FEATURES TO MATCH NVIDIA AND WHY IS PT PERFOMANCE WORSE?!?!
FSR Redstone which is coming out before the end of the year should noticeably improve Pathtracing perfomance and match nearly all Nvidia features such as Ray Reconstruction and AI Framegen.
https://videocardz.com/newz/fsr-redstone-on-track-amd-promises-dedicated-presentation

>ZEN 5 IS MELTING ON ASROCK!!!!!!!
There is no conclusive evidence for what the cause is yet. Zen 5 and the 9800X3D in particular have sold very well and most people haven't had any issues. It's possible there was a bad batch of processors and ASRock motherboards have BIOS settings that are worsening the problem, or the fault may entirely be with ASRock, there isn't enough information to make any kind of conclusion yet. For now just avoid ASRock boards to be safe and you will likely be fine like the thousands of other people who have bought and used these CPUs for months with no problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFYPnT_AQLk

>thought I finally need to upgrade my 10 year old rig after my desktop starts lagging
>turns out I was using software rendering without even realizing it
Wake me up when 16 core processors are the norm.

>AMD won CPUs
>Nvidia won GPUs
>Apple and Qualcomm won Mobile CPUs
bros I can't believe Intel fucking lost in everything... I miss when the i5 xx400 and i7 xx700k were the standard choices for midrange and high end gaming builds... I miss the legendary i7 4790k...

>>106970152
intel is making apus with nvidia now

>>106970158
Who's the target audience? Gaming handhelds and laptops?

>>106970163
faggots

>>106970074
>>106970066
AND lost

5070 has 9070XT performance for cheaper on equal image quality when the 5070 is running DLSS4 Transformer Model 'Performance' preset, and the 9070XT is running FSR3 'Quality' preset.

>grabbed the MSI B850 Gaming Plus on Amazon, because it was available in my area now, instead of 3 months waiting time
>didn't know but apparently MSI has a Amazon Promo running that with certain parts you can get a 100 euro Steam Gift Card
neato
next week gonna order my 9800x3d and Ram and I am ready to upgrade.
anyone got any clue how long it will be, till we get any infos or benchmarks about 5070 supers?

>>106970587
enjoy your nahimic lmao

Are Noctua NF-A14x25 G2 really worth it? They're like four times more expensive...

>>106970696
Honestly anyone who really cares about audio uses a dedicated DAC

>>106970773
It might be good but it's a scam.
Not worth the premium.

>>106970916
That's what I figured.
P14 Max, then? Airflow is a priority, but I'm gonna be running these babies at max a lot of the time. Are they too loud, then?

>caring about your mobo's audio chip in 2025
everyone uses bluetooth audio get on with the times

hairchasers got caught gimping 9800x3d to 4800mhz in his benchmarks

>>106970074
fsr4 has no games i agree

>>106971278
If the game supports DLSS or Reflex then by extension it supports FSR4 or Anti Lag 2. Optiscaler proved that both Nvidia and AMD are full of shit.

>Optiscaler Developer: As a result of spoofing the Nvidia card to enable DLSS some games would use an Nvidia-optimized codepath which may result in lower performance on other GPUs.

i just want to play videogames in peace after hitting the gym hurrr durrr amd durrr jewidia , just enjoy your lives lads

>>106971268
This shit doesn't show RAM speed correctly, this time Jewfus didn't cheat.
https://factoriobox.1au.us/result/e18f1f64-24d3-4ce3-9bcb-2cf856ff64dd
My result with DDR5 6000.
Winblows results are also much lower.

>>106971268
i downloaded factorio just for you
post yours.
>>106971508
your ram settings are fucked my dude

>>106971508
oh shit i didnt see it was different maps. oops

>check ram prices
>100 euro price hike since last week when I first checked
what the fuck man

>>106971508
big oof for me. i got 60 on the right map.

>>106971692
>mfw I upgraded my PC at the best possible moment

>>106971704
I got lucky
the 64 gig kit I wanted hit 360 euros, but for some reason amazon had a wrong listing with 250 euros. so I just grabbed that one. handling and shipping by amadong, so if anything happens I can just return it to them

>>106971703
Just wondering, does your 7800X3D run at 6400 in 1:1 at all?

>>106971727
absolutly not. this needs 1.24 vsoc to be stable in y-cruncher.
if you literally mean "at all?" then yeah it will boot but it cant even run firefox without pages crashing.

>>>1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b
just get rtx 5070 super duh

I have a Gigabyte Z390 motherboard. I noticed that "LEDs in system power on state" doesn't want to stay on. I set it to "on" and save, reboot, and I can see the fans light up, then turn off again by the time the video signal kicks in. And the fan lights stay off until I go to RGBFusion, where I see the fans have been set to "Off". I can set it to, say, "Static" and they'll stay on until next boot.

I don't know if it was the BIOS update or updating to Windows 11, but since this happened before I boot to Windows, probably the former

>>106971508
''this time didnt cheat"
>lmao so ur saying he cheated before
Get the fuck out of here retard shill

everything chinese made is going up in price.

tewst

>>106970152
AMD GPUs are fine. Nvidia relies on software which is better, but whole 5000 generation didn't improve at all since 4000. Both AMD snd Nvidia just sucks more power. When they will need actual efficiency gain we will see. They can't add more power. It's already too much.

my dad is asking to build a home pc, it just needs to be fluent with internet browsing and multimedia, no games, or real processing stuff.
so nog dedicated gpu but i like to give him a cpu that can handle some 1440p screen preferably 120 hz
i tend to use intel, no amd so i tought to just order the new intel ultra but i dont really know which one. or shoudl i go 14400/14600?

>>106972327
Why not buy minipc like minisforum? Do you think you will build a better one?

>>106971924
Well it turns out it was a BIOS thing. I reverted to the second latest version (F13) and I don't have that issue anymore

>>106972347

way overpriced for what it is on megekko

>>106970047 (OP)
Thought on my upgrade?
What I have right now are
>ASRock X570M Pro4
>AMD Ryzen 5 3600
>Kingston rams at 2677 MHz
>RX 6700 XT

And I'm thinking about making an all white build since my PC case is white, so I'm thinking of
>GIGABYTE B850 AORUS ELITE (in white)
>KLEVV BOLT V at 6000MHz (in white)
>ARCTIC FREEZER 36 (in white)
and my CPU of choice is going to be Ryzen 5 7500f, I was thinking of Ryzen 5 7600x at first, but then paying 1.5 times more for only a few improvement is just silly and I'm going to keep my GPU and my power supply.
Any thoughts on my choice of CPU and my motherboard?

Concise GPU and CPU guide for newfags
>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian
>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit
>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage
>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo
>Intel + Radeon = Schizo
>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved

buying radeon was the biggest mistake of my life, pairing amd's dogshit software with microsofts dogshit software (windows) is a death sentence
thinking about replacing the whole system with intel+nvidia since those are actually poweruser friendly, amd is only for linux users or casual forum shitposters who don't actually do anything with their computer.

>106972509
You never bought nor own anything from AMD kys nvidijeet nigger

>>106971268
you fucking retard that's the default JEDEC speed, it does not show the expo speed

>>106972520
you're brown and you shill for dogshit FOR FREE

I intend to change my CPU in 2 months cause I got a bad 14900k and I'm kind of sick of intel at the moment. I was gonna go 9950x3D but now apparently there's gonna be a 9950x3D2 and I'm wondering if I should just get that? I don't actually need it, no one truly does probably, but I have a terminal case of "I always need the best thing". If it's gonna be like $150 more or something then fuck that, its definitely not worth it, but assuming it isn't, should I do it? I should add I have 64GB 6000MHz RAM, a Noctua D15 CPU cooler and a 4090, if that makes a difference

>>106972327
just buy a premade mini-pc, you can get functional ones off ebay even. ~$300 is enough for that.

>>106972609
im using a 9950x3d, its preddy gud, i don't see myself needing anything else for years, it'll handle the multi-tasking with ease, and only a massive HZ and bus-speed efficiency increase would ever affect gaming performance.

If your oxidised 14900k is fucked, and you NEED the best, just get a 9950x3d. Can't go wrong, except with the motherboard you choose. I'm not 100% that a D15 is enough, i prefer my 360mm AIO for my 9950x3d, keeps it icy-cool. But you can always buy that afterwards if your D15 is struggling to keep it cool.

>>106972421
enthusiasts don’t buy gaming only hardware

>>106972658
>I'm not 100% that a D15 is enough
I have 3 fans on it so that it somehow handles the 14900k I have now. For the motherboard I was looking at the Gigabyte X870E, E cause the non-E version costs about the same so might as well and Gigabyte cause that's what I have now and I am very happy with the motherboard itself so unless they makes shitty mobos for AMD specifically, I figured I should be happy with it.

AMD’s 7800X3D and 9800X3D CPUs, priced over $400 USD, are widely marketed as “the best gaming CPUs in the world”. This is demonstrated at low resolutions with a 4090-class GPU, whilst conveniently ignoring 0.1% lows (frame drops). Under cherry-picked cache-bound conditions the X3D chips do excel, but there’s a trade-off: the additional cache results in 6% lower boost clocks and 50% to 80% higher prices than their regular counterparts (9700X and 7700X). As with their Radeon GPUs, AMD is looking to drive demand through advanced marketing rather than delivering real-world performance. While Nvidia has effectively countered AMD’s marketing in the GPU space, Intel's marketers remain asleep (terminally?) at the wheel. Nevertheless, the 13600K and 14600K still deliver almost unparalleled real-world gaming performance for around $200 USD. Spending more on a gaming CPU is often pointless, as games are normally limited by the GPU. Without significant improvements in social media marketing: forums, reddit, youtube etc., Intel now face the very real risk of bankruptcy (third worst-performing S&P500 stock from Jan to Aug 2024). Since this summary was published just two days ago, hundreds of twitter threads, thousands of “pcmasterrace” reddit posts, multiple magazine articles, and several youtube videos have emerged in unanimous support for the $480 USD 9800X3D. All of these supposedly disinterested actors are working the weekend to convince you to pay their favourite billion-dollar brand an extra $280 USD this holiday season.

>>106972700
yeah solid enough choice, im more of a fan of the MSI tomahawk myself, but the first x870 i got, i had to return because flashing the bios broke, and even the pc store guy i gave it back to was unable to get it to work, had to wait for a refurbished model to arrive. Although that one worked great and there's been no issues since.

>>106972706
>$480 USD 9800X3D
Typo, sorry. The 9800x3d msrps for $400 now and the 7800 for $300, and it's not even black friday yet.

>>106972706
9950x3d is the best binned silicon AMD has, and the 9950x3d outperforms even 9950x's in multi-tasking scenarios, on top of gaming supremacy. Not sure why your AI botpost was unable to mention that.

>>106972740
>>106972754
Why buy any of these when the 265k is $300?

>>106972520
The only unpaid shill here is you.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106737389/#106738008

>>106972622
Perfectly describes the Retardeons who frequent /pcbg/

>>106972414
how about you buy a solid side panel instead of this clown shit

>>106972609
You should buy a real processor anon. The choice is obvious

>106972842
Ur a subhuman too and should kill yourself too doebeit
All brandfags gets the rope

>>106972908
>All brandfags gets the rope
Starting with you, Mr. I-Only-Buy-Radeon.
Not all Radeon card owners are Retardeons, don't act like one if you're offended by that label

>>106972908
Please settle down, we all organize our shilling in THE discord, basically making us all sisters (clitty)

>>106972924
>this nvidiots face when his 5070 ti dxgi hangs and blackscreens while he types up his next shitpost about the "retardeons"

>>106972952
>dxgi hang
A Retardeon would know all about it.

Any recommendations on an matx case with enough clearance for a slot 2 3090? My new motherboard has it so the gpu is laying flat along the solid bottom.

>106972993
Kill yourself nvidijeet sister fucker pedo

>>106972999
mATX cases like the Phanteks XT M3 should have enough space for a 2-slot 3090.
NZXT H3 Flow and Asus A21 should also be an easy fit.

Check official product pages for the Lian Li A3 and Asus Prime AP201 GPU compatibility dimensions; these might fit.

>>106973035
Only you care about GeForce GRD 576.88 in October 2025.
And this animal was complaining about people bringing up shit they don't own, kek'd.

meanwhile in this thread

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1761118790
>Last month, after months of rumors, TCL confirmed its $4.15 billion investment in the T8 project. The new 8.6G plant will use a novel inkjet printing method to manufacture OLED panels – it is the world's first. With its T8 factory, TCL CSOT is entering into direct competition with LG Display and Samsung Display in the OLED panel market for mid-size devices. These panels are expected to be used in products from TCL and other major brands.

>By using inkjet printing for OLED production, TCL aims to reduce manufacturing costs (by 20% reportedly) while delivering high-performance, high-resolution and energy-efficient RGB OLED panels. The company reiterated that initial production will focus on "high-end displays for tablets, laptops, and monitors". No update was provided on the plans for TV panels. Mass production is scheduled for 2027.

CHEAP RGB OLED SOON.

>>106973097
>muh inkjet
This will end up in failure just like joled.

>>106972952
>DXGI HANG
lol just average nvidia problem in 2025

>>106973152
>>106972952

>>106973097
>Mass production is scheduled for 2027.
Will most likely have to wait until 2028 to be able to buy these monitors; the monitors will last around 5 years, according to a TCL engineer (10 years for TVs).

>>106973139
I BELIEVE THE CHINESE WILL SUCCEED WHERE THE JAPANESE HAVE FAILED US.

>order a new DDR4 RAM from a major retailer
>get DDR2 stick
fml

>>106973152
We all know Battlefield 6 is a shitshow ATM.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/1o7iuw6/new_to_amd_battlefield_6_crashes_at_least_once_an/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/1o476bb/i_cant_get_battlefield_6_to_run_for_more_than_5/

>>106973360
average nvidia driver issues in 2025

>>106973097
>TCL aims to reduce manufacturing costs (by 20% reportedly)
I don't doubt their margins would love this, but will consumers even see much of a price difference?

>>106973360
>>106973367
In May 2025. You wouldn't be posting that stale shit if you were able to reproduce that crash today.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105411874/#105411946

Do Retardeons have a time machine? So obsessed with old NVIDIA drivers.

>>106973375
If it's TCL yeah. Their entire strategy is based around flooding the market by lowering the price.

>>106970696
>nahimic
I can't even begin to fathom what this word means? Am I just ESL or is this some made up bullshit?

>>106973397
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/retardeon/

If my OS was corrupted due to bad RAM, do I have to do a clean install or can I just clone the drive on a separate computer that it runs on and put that new drive in the PC?

cheapest 5070ti is $845, cheapest 9070xt is $680 or even lower. Need some advice, working with a 1500-1600$ budget and targeting 4k 60 fps.

>>106973547
its its windows you can repair a corrupted OS from the recovery menu or iso. its called a "in-place upgrade". works if its semi broken or totally broken.

if its linux you have to clean install

>>106973560
Buy the cheaper 9070 XT if you can't decide; you obviously don't need the 5070 Ti if you need to ask.

I'm on Rtings looking for a good monitor so I just filtered with the top ratings on these categories. Should I just grab the Alienware for watching anime? Also how come they dont have any good rated screens in 24''

>>106973588
I'm also considering the 1st option as it's only $250 and the Alienware is like $650

>>106973565
force reinstall all packages lmao

>>106973440
msi audio malware

rtx ntc coming along nicely. It's going to be nice when the 12gb 5070 (which outsold everything from the last 2 amd gens combined) has 120gb of real vram available.
https://old.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1odanub/rtx_neural_texture_compression_tested_in_a_scene/

>>106973681
Is it really malware or is this just autism?

>>106973560
>targeting 4k 60 fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRveQNpnWcg

go make a choice

>>106973560
There are games at 4k that run out of vram on the 9070xt but not the 5070ti

>>106972851
meaning?

>stutters
>low fps
5070 Ti is not a 4k card
Fuck all of you who recommended this piece of shit card

>>106973862
Did you just buy it? If so you should return it and get a 5080, it's only 250 more, might as well if you want decent 4k.

>>106973807
meaning it does not matter what color your shit is if you dont have a fish tank for pc

>>106973862
There is only one 4K gaming GPU at the moment, 5090.

>>106973699
it sure finds a way to worm itself back onto your pc no matter what you do to nuke it

>>106973991
I got the b850 tomahawk, does it have that as well? I don't have a dac/amp so what should I use for sound if not the motherboard?

>>106973970
it does for me and I do not wish to argue with you any further on this point, thank you.

>>106973862
If only you went 1440p and bought 9070 XT instead you could have saved money and be comfy like me rn
BF6 is so much fun and runs pretty well but hits my 5900x pretty hard so I'm building a new AM5 pc this Black Friday. Getting oled too. Then I will be all set. End blogspot.

>>106973862
only 5090 is capable of 4K

>>106973988
>>106974098
you say that but some of us aren't overly autistic about fps. 60-70 fps is FINE.

>>106973997
no idea im never buying msi ever again after experiencing it once

Why is the 9070xt cost almost 50% more than a 5070 for the same performance?

>106974205
Kill yourself

>>106971727
after some tinkering just now; it wont even pass a 10 minute cinebench run at 6200 1:1, 1.27 vsoc and slightly loosened timings. its a lost cause as far as i can tell.

>>106974205
I just want to know how it's painfully obvious how biased all these reviewers are. I don't even need to look at the results, I just know what the chart is going to say based on who made it.

>>106974139
I have a 4070 tis and it only gets that much with dlss. Bought a 5080 though and moving the 4070tis for sim rig.

Am I crazy or is building an actual gaming PC genuinely not going to be worth it for at least 5 years? I feel like we're in a rough patch where even if you build a top of the line PC all the games are going to run like shit anyway cause devs don't care to optimize.

I'm sticking with my MacBook and RuneScape.

>>106974538
>cause devs don't care to optimize.
Games have to run on a ps5 (Frankenstein cutdown 6700m + 4800u), stuttering sucks but overall I'd say gaming on low end hardware is better than it's ever been.

>>106974578
And yet you NEED a top of the line rig to play Borderlands 4. It's a shame it really is.

Hell, you may as well get a console.

sata ssd prices are fucked, what he likely hood they come back down in a year?

>>106974538
Shader compilation stutters are inevitable unless devs get their shit together (e.g. they're inevitable), but other than that my new 9600 + 5070 setup can run any new game at 1440p60 High settings. DLSS Quality + 2xFrameGen can turn that into 144 FPS if supported by the game.
By this logic you can probably get by on something like a 3060 12GB at 1080p by using DLSS Quality and mixed med/high settings, for 60 FPS.

>>106974596
>And yet you NEED a top of the line rig to play Borderlands 4
Well you're either retarded or just baiting but regardless, here's native (which is retarded in 2025) 1440p on the current gen lower-midrange cards.

>>106974635
>5070
>1440p
Just throw your pc in the trash retard

>>106974538
PC gaming was always about brute-forcing hardware at a certain point.
The affordable CPUs and GPUs were just good enough to get you around 70~80% of the top end's performance.

>>106974648
Only 60 fps? Lol.

>>106974649
how about you fucking kill yourself instead AMDjeet?

>>106974596
>>106974648
Borderlands 4 is playable on mid and low range AMD cards but not nshartia. 9070 non xt = 5070 ti in this game lmao

Switched from Nvidia to AMD today. Anything i should know or set up in the AMD Software?

>>106974649
There have been hundreds of performance patches of that game since June 2023, including brand new RT optimizations.
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/fDu2tvfMgfY80adqKTbYzw/order/asc/

>106974670
>How it feels when I ragebait an nvidiot to reply to me telling me to kms for the 1000th time

>>106974662
On low end cards at a high resolution. Yeah that's fine.
Consoles are basically on mostly medium settings + not at 60fps + still well below 1080p.

>106974698
Shut up whore. Njudea still not fixed broken 1% lows on rtx 50 series

>>106974692
freesync on
vsync on globally
texture filter quality performance
surface format optimization on

>>106974728
They still haven't fixed the nvidia driver issues in general.

>>106974728
Keep posting broken games and rigged benchmarks to prove a point.
Funny thing is, NVIDIA still dominates hardware sales.
It's as if people don't give a shit about Radeon-favored games.

>106974754
>people don't give a shit about Radeon-favored games.
So people don't care about the most popular fps franchise in the world. Retarded nvidinigger Just Ronnie Mcnutt yourself already.

>>106974708
>>106974728
>>106974768
You tell them sisters! Please watch over this thread, I have to go out and buy a new dilator + get into an argument at a random store over me wanting to sit in the womans bathroom for an hour.

>>106974768
The vast majority of CoD players are on console.
Thanks for confirming PC gamers don't give a shit about console slop shooters.

I FUCKING LOVE BRANDWAR GRAPH SPAM
JESUS CHRIST KILL YOURSELVES

>>106970047 (OP)
Where is my 2x48 6000 CL30 RAM kit ranked?

Thoughts on the minisforum boards with soldered CPU?

>>106974741
True

>>106974788
This thread has become literally unusable since January this year. Idk what it was about this years hardware releases into particular that turned this place into shill and branfag war central.

>>106974814
Coincidentally, when one guy started to be more active in these threads.

>>106974797
I mean if you're in the market for something small that just works go for it, why not.
>>106974800
true

>>106974831
>when one guy started to be more active in these threads.
is it anime amd poster?

Are there any other more charts in such manner? https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/power_performance.html#scatter
I'd like to see framerate charts in respect of TDP.
Now I understand that TDP is now Wattage per se, but it is linear indicator of it
I am aiming for 2k resolution gaming. I am prone to 9070XT because of pricetag. Wish 9070 could be relatively cheaper, because it sounds like a sweet spot.

>>106974883
He is seething when if anything he should.be thanking me for scaring the literal pedo that was here for a decade out of the thread with pure force of will and nonstop shitposting.

>>106974914
Well then if you're accomplished that goal why don't you stop shitposting?

>>106974936
It is lowkey just force of habit at this point. Will probably stop for good before the year is out and then return when Zen 6 is announced.

>>106974905
You can always tune the video card to run more power efficiently; brand doesn't matter.
Look up GPU undervolting (+overclock to retain stock performance) and setting lower power limits.
The last 10~15% extra power used in most video cards is inefficient.

>>106974936
It is lowkey just force of habit at this point. Will probably stop before the year is out and then return when Zen 6 is announced.

>>106972526
Anon
https://factoriobox.1au.us/result/85921946-67ff-4999-ba47-1396ed76e082

>>106974914
im still here THO?

>>106975110
Not that guy, but it looks like a janky website to me.

>>106975186
Does DDR5 have some kind of power saving dynamic frequency mode like laptop ram? Could explain script reading "current" specs at a bad moment.

>>106975228
There's a power-down & dynamic timing adjustment option, on by default for some boards.

this is my list, i already have the money just need to wait a little bit more to the prices go down in my country:

what you guys think:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Motherboard: ASUS ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI

RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6400 MHz 64 GB (2×32 GB) CL32

GPU: ASUS Dual AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition 24 GB GDDR6

Storage: idk the best for the budget

PSU: Seasonic Prime TX-1000 (1000 W, 80 Plus Titanium)

i wish pcpartpicker has filter
which motherboard has x16 pcie 4.0 or 5.0

>>106975317
It literally doesn't matter if you aren't running a datacenter.

>>106975315
>Motherboard: ASUS ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI
nigger what the fuck are you buying that motherboard for? what is this build even for? AI slop? or gaming+streaming? i can't tell.
Your ram is non-optimal aswell, get ddr5 6000mhz, CL30, not CL32, any speed above 6000mhz generally inhibits performance for AMD, not improves it. Memory controllers are currently AMD's biggest weakness, and so high-spec ram is wasted past tight-timings like CL30 and below.
Asus are a dogshit, consumer-hostile company, even if some of their products are good, just an fyi. Also for amd get

>>106975390
its to generate (You)s

>>106975315
bait

>>106975336
i want to achieve the lowest latency posibble

If you're planning on building a pc anons, buy your RAM first, like right now, literally. The prices are gonna skyrocket. If you decide against it later relax, you can just resell it on ebay later.

>This is my Radeon. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
>My Radeon is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.
>My Radeon, without me, is useless. Without my Radeon, I am useless. I must OC my Radeon high. I must score higher than the nvidiot who is trying to outscore me. I must burn his connector before he burns me. I will...
>My Radeon and I know that what counts in this war is not the benchmarks we run, the noise of our fans, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the score that counts. We will score...
>My Radeon is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its voltages and its clocks. I will keep my Radeon clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...
>Before Lisa, I swear this creed. My Radeon and I are the defenders of AMD. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.
>So be it, until victory is AMD's and there is no enemy, but peace!

>Italy
>2k €
>Linux only
>double monitor setup (one 2K 240Hz screen and one 1080p 60Hz screen)
>heavy web usage (Google Workspace, editing and browsing lots of online sheets slides an documents simultaneously, heavy multitasking including watching videos at 2K 60fps and browsing folders having 2-3k high quality images and videos), 2K gaming at 240fps (old fps titles such as TF2 and Mordhau, Overwatch 2, maybe Marvel Rivals), Retroarch emulation (mostly NES, SNES, N64 titles and pokemon games)
I'm running Fedora 42 GNOME Wayland on a data SSD now, which I'm planning to move to the next desktop PC. Ideally I'd be willing to spend more for 2x32 RAM but the prices seem fucked up now.

>>106975794
ram prices are only going up. If you're gonna get 64gigs do it right now. They MIGHT taper down in like 3+ years time otherwise. Unless the entire AI market crashes. For your purposes you'll want 64 gigs aswell.

the 9900x is a poor choice, either get the 9950x or the 9950x3d, its a poor middle ground between the 9800x etc.

>>106975828
>9900X poor choice
Why? According to Phoronix it performs pretty well on Linux and its price seems to be ok now. 9950X is around 500€ here.

>>106975186
that's an integer overflow on linux
the windows results are accurate
>>106975228
not on desktops
your laptop might do this

>Tanel's 65" lcd died (Remember when u said LCDs last forever? I do)
>Took the G5 65" Pill
the G5 tv pill is increasing

>>106975891
if you're trying to min-max price and money spent is important, sure go ahead, get that then.

>>106975891
frankly you will be better served asking somewhere else
retards and shitposters have taken over these threads for a few days now
i mean the kind of mental midget that would post something like >>106975946 , shudders the mind

>>106975922
Modern OLEDs have really good automatic compensation, you will only get dip in peak hdr brightness, not any burnt areas on gray or even dip in sustained sdr white (which is like 10% of peak hdr white)
That is after normal media/desktop use. Deliberately showing static logo 24x7 for years will kill any display all the same.

>>106975390
Thanks anon, its for high end gaming and Work. Thanks for the memory advice

>>106975527
No its not, i just need a high end pc

>>106975545
Dont be mad

Wuthering Waves still crashes on Nvidia

>>106975971
What do you think about my build?

I need to get an extra job so I can buy a G5 guilt free (on sale)
The LG Discount codes dissappeared
I should have bought the G5 55" for 1699€ already
it's over

>>106976100
>Dont be mad
I'm not, your build just makes literally 0 sense

>>106976137
Seems perfectly fine, if you have done your homework on the cpu and its performance in linux you are already ahead of about 99% of the ppl in this board
There is a case to be made about the ram tho, much as it sucks it does seem poised to keep getting more expensive for a bit before setting

>update BIOS last week
>check site again today
>another BIOS update

>>106973494
They set whatever AIB overclock the 5070 Ti had to the nVidia spec for the testing to make the card match the unit they used for testing during their day 1 review. I don't see anything wrong with that? They did not make the 5070 Ti run any slower than what nVidia sets the chip to run at.

>>106976229
>Pretty sure the 5070ti will boost to like 2900mhz or something

Unless I am missing something it looks like it boosts to 2452 MHz

>>106976357
All Nvidia cards since forever boost well above their rated.
Not even sure the parameters in which the boost speed on the spec sheet is based on.

>>106971268
this was solved the same hour in the same thread of which it was posted in, retard
you are posting this solved issue 12 months later
I was there, I posted the video of which the anon in the thread made this post, of which I then later investigated and solved for you
>erroneous reported ram speeds from the benchmark as you can see from multiple other tests an examples found on the site too
>mobo and using fclk oc or whatever the fuck setting on that mobo fucks up the ram reporting
>addressed by him later too
now come up with something relevant instead of being mentally retarded for fuck sake

do I have to repeat this every time? are you the same retard popping up every time to bait or are you new retards? I genuinely don't know

all of you should commit collective sui

>>106971508
>This shit doesn't show RAM speed correctly
I said this the exact same thread this meme came about from
how are these fucking retards stuck on this 12 months later?
genuinely

>>106972112
you are new as fuck

>>106972526
solved issue lurk more

>>106976357
>>106976415
Nvidia boost clocks are fake. They just take front end and +200mhz it. Like how their temps are fake they measure edge instead of hotspot.

>>106976431
Kill yourself and rot in shit mass reply inturd shill

>>106976415
>Not even sure the parameters in which the boost speed on the spec sheet is based on.

It comes from nvidia. Just watched the day one review of the 5070 Ti and they state that the cards they were sent by nvidia had AIB overclocks but they ran the cards at the nvidia reference clocks. And then went on to say they run all cards at the manufacture reference clocks.

>>106976415
>Not even sure the parameters in which the boost speed on the spec sheet is based on
AMD got a lot of shit for putting the true boost limit on their spec sheets for ryzen 3000
so manufacturers probably make up a number that any user can reasonably expect to see, even if they live in the sahara desert
i think intel are the only ones that still put the true boost in their spec sheets, but that's because their boost system is kinda retarded, so you actually get 5.7 GHz on a 285K reliably
>>106976431
>mobo and using fclk oc or whatever the fuck setting on that mobo fucks up the ram reporting
you don't even know what BCLK is lol shut up
the numbers on the site are accurate
there's an integer overflow on linux, that's all
6400 MHz = 6400000000 Hz
6400000000 - 4294967295 (max uint32) = 2105032705 Hz
or 2105 MHz: exactly what the site tells you

>>106976507
The FE boosts higher than what the spec sheet says.
That's why it's confusing because they quote 2.45ghz but as far as it looks every single card boosts higher then that in real use.
I can only assume Nvidia's number is based on EXTREMELY shitty silicon or running at very elevated temps.

>>106976575
Interesting. I see what you are saying. So for someone that publishes reviews/benchmarks what clocks should they use? Just whatever clock their particular FE card is able to hit?

>>106976357
>>106976507
>Just watched the day one review of the 5070 Ti nvidia had AIB overclocks
AIB overclocks aren't responsible for the +300 boost; NVIDIA just likes to underreport the rated boost clocks for their GeForce cards.
No one's 5070 Ti's boosting at only 2450MHz.

>And then went on to say they run all cards at the manufacture reference clocks.
Because that test methodology justifies a -300MHz downclock on the 5070 Ti's average boost clock while it's less than a -20Mhz penalty to the 9070 XT's boost specs.
The Ventus 3X OC only has +30MHz higher advertised boost clock compared to the 2450MHz NVIDIA spec sheet.
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-5070-Ti-16G-VENTUS-3X-OC/Specification

>>106976620
You'd have to leave it at stock, because sandbagging to match some spec sheet clearly isn't correct for the very, very vast majority of potential owners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWN11kGMlGg
Stuttery mess on the best amd gpu in the present, this is bad publicity for AMD
Should AMD still be recomended?

>>106976620
>So for someone that publishes reviews/benchmarks what clocks should they use?
They could stop being a bitch about receiving a review unit that's guaranteed to boost at least 2482MHz instead of NVIDIA's 2450MHz and just run the card at stock settings like everyone else is doing.
Ventus cards can't even increase the maximum power limit beyond NVIDIA's reference card specs.

>>106976662
oh no oh wow this is bad for amd, by my estimate this could single-handedly drive market share from ~5% to ~3%. How do we respond to this?

>>106970074
>FSR Redstone which is coming out before the end of the year
Two more weeks.

>>106976461
This isn't a healthy way to cope with your RDNA3 GPU's useless dual-issue mode.
https://chipsandcheese.com/p/microbenchmarking-amds-rdna-3-graphics-architecture

>>106976158
>>The LG Discount codes dissappeared
They'll be back on black friday

>>106976705
AMD should react accordingly by dropping the price of the 9700 xt

>>106976357
why not use the day 1 drivers too
remember when he tested Doom TDA before Nvidia even released their game ready drivers? lol AMDSteve

Upgrading from a 10700k, using my current and fairly new SSD for the OS, no change for PSU or GPU until prices come down or I get tired of waiting
Planning on waiting till cyber Monday to buy stuff just in case I actually manage to get a deal on anything
With the x3d2 leaks, would it be worth it to consider grabbing a weaker CPU for now and waiting or does it probably not matter? I don't have a real need for the best CPU on the market but top of the line for {current year} always tickles my greedy little brain. I also do a decent bit of 3d work and audio processing, plus big ass L3 cache
I'm pretty happy with my motherboard pick in terms of features as well as the other picks. That being said, if you see anything that could be swapped out, comments would be appreciated
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qf9Vv4
List screenshot for anyone lazy like me

>>106976787
>$357 for 64GB DDR5 and it's not even in stock

AHHHHHHHHHHH I WANT OFF THIS RIDE AHHHHHHHH

>>106976763
4090 & 5090 Steve is just playing an act because AMD fans are the more engaging & exploitable viewer base.
I believe GN Steve recently said the majority of their GPU referral link income is from Radeon card buyers.

CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>>106976821
I pretend I do not see it until I gotta buy shit ;-;

>>106976787
If you're going to spend like $700+ after taxes on a processor might as well get an aio.

>>106976835
Zen 6 CPUs will most likely raise the memory speed sweet spot.
People had time to buy the 1.4V CL26 6000MT/s kit if they wanted one.

>>106976787
I agree with the AIO suggestion.

What are the odds my PC refuses to POST and I have to clear the CMOS battery if I push my memory up to 6000MT?
>DDR5-5200 CL40 currently up to 5600 and CL38
>sub timings half stolen from Buildzoid half left slightly higher than his suggested
I've been weighting the risk/reward factor for a month now, of getting the perfect 1:1 magic Ryzen bullshit ratio vs potentially my PC not POSTing and having to move it off my desk, open it up, ghetto short the pins with a screwdriver, then put it back together without breaking the glass pane, and I'm still just chilling with sub-optimal RAM.

you guys should build now ASAP
just looking at the AI purchases it becomes very clear the companies do not need consumers any more
gpus cpus ram ssds shit even hdds
they barely need to sell them to people for money now

>>106976909
if you have BIOS flashback that acts as a CMOS reset without having to open the case
but you're worrying about this too much, both the performance impact and the chance of a POST failure

>>106976857
>>106976883
Yeah that makes sense
Any particular recs? Iirc the arctic 360mm is supposed to be good right

>>106976909
>Save profile
>Fuck things up
>Clear CMOS
>????
>Profit

>>106976956
TRYX PANORAMA ARGB 360 White

>>106976942
How does the BIOS flashback thing work? Does it do anything on it's own or do I need to provide a flash drive with a BIOS image?

>>106976956
>Any particular recs?
You're in luck; these guys' cooler reviews are thorough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTHCPsM5ECw

Why are all Bluray drives burners instead of just readers? I don't need a fucking burner I just want to watch movies on my computer fucking pieces of shits. Stupid ass fucking bullshit waste of money. Who the fuck is still burning discs?

>>106976992
read the manual
(spoiler alert: you need a flash drive)

>>106976980
>>106976995
Thanks guys, very much appreciated

>>106975915
>the windows results are accurate
It isn't.
>(re: power saving dynamic frequency) not on desktops
Explain pic.

>>106977021
Tryx is a $400 AIO with a massive LCD strapped to it
but it is a nice AIO

>>106977084
>Explain pic
5600 with BCLK? idk, i don't have access to every single system on the site
that's not a memory ratio on AM5 so how else would you make windows report 5732 MHz?

intel apparently has some dynamic RAM frequency switching on desktops (SAGV) but i don't know why anyone would use it
probably because intel desktop and laptop CPUs share the same base design and firmware
there's nothing like that for ryzen, you can manually toggle the EXPO profile in the latest ryzen master but it's not automatic

Remember with Klarna and Paypal Pay in 3 you can have that 5090 very easily

Bros, I bought the G61SD 2 months ago on Costco because it was $550, but now I'm not sure about it. I play in a dark room, and the don't know if I'm missing out on a glossy OLED. They allow returns up to 3 months so if I'd like, I'd be able to return it. What do y'all think? Also there are some occasional screen flickers on the bottom half of the screen for some reason, where it displays a past I game on the bottom left and right for a frame. I also don't want to spend much money on a new monitor

>>106977241
The amount of typo's, sorry. One frame, not I game. The screen does look matted, almost like a soft fabric. And looking at glossy OLED's in comparison like picrel, I feel missed out.
1440p and 240hz.

Where are the good 32 inch 1440p monitors?

>>106977279
>32 inch 1440p
>good

Oh that's simple. they don't exist

>>106977285
But 4K is only for people who sold their kidney to afford a 4090/5090. I have to settle for 27inch and below because my GPU can only handle 1440p?

>>106977308
Yes.

ALL HAIL BRITANNIA

>>106977241
Return it if you're having regrets. I'd check if GSync/FreeSync/VRR is working properly regarding the frame issues.
I had doubts about QD-OLED about the raised purple memes and picked a WOLED alternative as backup.
I didn't need to return the QD-OLED.

>>106977331
As far as I know, I already have G-sync. The frame thing isn't what's bothering me but rather the matted coating. I'm just wondering if I made the wrong choice with the matted coating and if it would be better to get the XG27AQDMG but I heard some bad things

How much do you guys think it would cost to build a generally good work and gaming computer? My laptop just has a 256 gb SSD and the CPU tops out easily. I've only ever gamed on mid budget laptops so I have no real experience with newer AAA titles or with picking parts.

>>106977522
$2000

>>106976992
read the manual of your mobo and find a video of somebody doing it on your mobo (there will be)
you will need to power the mobo, it can be alone, needs no ram or cpu, just the mobo to the psu
then you will need to insert a usb on an specific usb port (should be in the manual) with the bios you want to flash downloaded
Make sure that the format of the usb, the name and extension of the archive are correct (again manual, video, online page of your mobo).
Then press the bios flash button a light will blink rapidly for a while to show that its reading then it will blink slower and eventually stop blinking
Mine took... maybe 6 minutes?
Best of luck anon, dont be shy sharing which mobo it is if you have doubts

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CF93Lc

This build ok for 1440p gayming?

Already have the case, cpu is gonna be like 100 bucks less on Aliexpress.

>>106977522
$1000ish
There's no point spending more than $3/4000 on a pc build

>>106977522
Entry level work/gaming computer 1100, Mid 1600 , Good 1800-2000, Premium top of the mountain 4-6k
then another 200-300 for a basic 1440p screen
Whats your budget? what are your needs? people here love making lists of parts

>>106977573
absolutely fine, there is a case to be made for a 7800x3d cpu (80$ bump roughly) if it benefits the kind of games you gonna play
expensive mobo but seems hand selected so you probably already know that, same with the 4 TB hard drive

>>106977522
My only tip is to consider used high-end graphics cards as they can be surprisingly great value. For ~300-350 bucks a used 3080 Ti or 6950 XT blows the (more expensive) 5060 Ti and 9060 XT out of the water.
You can combine that with some budget AM5 components, a basic case, 32GB RAM and some decently fast storage, and you've got a great machine for potentially sub-1000 euro.

>>106977654
6950 XT with a basic case and PSU might or might not be a problem though

>>106977707
oh yeah psu reqs are the "gotcha" of this tactic, you need to overspend on a proper one, while a brand new 5060 Ti might run just fine on some 600W pile of junk you have around from an older PC

>>106977569
>>106977583
Thanks
>>106977607
I guess #1 I'd like to be able to install a lot of games. I have pretty fast internet, but it's annoying having to uninstall a game whenever you want to install a new one. Maybe a 1-2 tb SSD at least. I'd also like to be able to play a few newer games like Hogwarts Legacy and Warzone 2 on fairly high settings, and be able to use a browser while gaming (right now if I open Brave while playing a game it goes straight to 100% GPU used, which is to be expected since I only have 8gb of RAM). Other than that just office applications. If it could run Linux well that would be a plus so maybe AMD rather than Nvidia.

>>106977654
>>106977707
>>106977726
Thank you.

I forgot to add my budget probably would be about 1700 dollars. Hopefully I could make a build that would last pretty well for a few years.

>>106977770
>I forgot to add my budget probably would be about 1700 dollars. Hopefully I could make a build that would last pretty well for a few years.
got you

>>106977770
>Hopefully I could make a build that would last pretty well for a few years
5070ti

>>106977423
I wouldn't buy last-gen WOLED even if it's glossy.
You either switch to a glossy current-gen QD-OLED or wait for tandem WOLED with a glossy finish.

>>106977760
Stick with AMD video cards for Linux.
Newer games fill up the storage pretty quickly; a 2TB SSD is the minimum if you want to install a decent number of games.

>>106977781
>>106977827
Thank you. I'll note that down and look into it.

HDD pricings are a joke. A 1TB WD Blue (7200RPM HDD) costs 10 euro more than a 1TB WD Blue (NVME SSD). No reason to ever go HDD anymore unless you're buying a bajillion TB for data hoarding, not 1 or 2 TB for movies.

>>106977760
>>106977770
This is a first draft. Again then you would want a basic 1440p screen (im assuming you dont have one) there are decent ones in the 200-250 range but thats its own world, you also might want a 2nd monitor, but thats much cheaper as any 1080p screen can do.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ydQtv4

I landed at 1621$ but it can be trimmed a bit.
It has 2 TB hard drive which is room for a lot of games but extra storage can be added, i personally have a 2TB nvme for system and games/programs and then a 1TB older SSD for storage and never had a problem.
It has the current meta AMD card as you mentioned preferring it over nvidia
The psu and mobo are slightly overkill but not that much
The case is a very spartan well reviewed case, you might want to pick a pack of 3 fans to install and beef its airflow a bit but the cooler i placed is a very well reviewed one.
This is all from amazon as i dont know the other retailers in america
Let me know what you think and hopefully other anons can chime and critique.
Also black friday is close

>>106977894
Its literally raw material costs at that point
I wouldn't even consider a HDD less than 8TB

>>106977903
Thank you so much. I'll save the list and look into all the parts, and keep an eye out for sales. It's really helpful since I don't really know a lot about hardware. I've used laptops for work since I was 13 up until grad school so I've always played around with software but never really learned enough about computer parts.

>>106977932
yeah save it and you can post it now and then to get input from other anons

>>106970047 (OP)
kys nicotroon

>>106977961
AMD seems awfully invested in it.

>>106977977
>2H

>>106977977
gonna be a busy next 2 months

>>106973560
Wait a couple weeks for black friday deals.

>>106978077
do they start at the beginning of November? Black Friday is late this year

>>106978128
yeah start checking deals near the end of oct, often they will start near that time or very early nov.

>>106978128
Some stores will offer holiday price protection; those are safe to buy.

Oh thank fuck, it's a nothingburger
I can continue with that 265K build

>>106978434
They're basically releasing Arrow Lake CPUs that require less manual tuning.
RTX 50 Super cards will be similar, but I wouldn't expect double-digit performance gains for the 5070 Ti & 5080 Supers.

This shit would have looked so cash in 2010, barring the modern-ish components

>>106978625
It still looks clean.

are all the 5(7/8)00x3ds dried up?
I kinda want one last hurrah for my AM4 board

>>106978812
you're about a year late

>>106978862
ig its time for a new socket :(
maybe I'll just slam a 5900XT instead and pretend I have a use for more than 6 cores

I just want to get 300 constant FPS in overwatch broooo

jesus fuck why is it impossible to search cases by specs
>mATX or larger
>io on top center with 2+ USB3
>fits 5090
>2+ 3.5 hdd slots
>good gpu airflow
I can't find a case that doesn't fail at least one of these

>>106978876
5700X or 5800XT is still a decent stopping point, fairly cost-efficient upgrade.

Please give me a link to hard drive screws made of good steel.

>>106978953
What are you doing with your hard drives that makes the screws a point of failure

If you're too poor for a RTX5060Ti 16 card

What's the next step down you should buy? Or should I just suck it up and save because it's that good?

(Can't be 9060XT I need an Nvidia card)

>>106979005
save, those are decent for next three years or so

>>106978957
If they show oxidation marks after 10 years they are failing.
WHERE CAN I BUY GOOD SCREWS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>106979005
3080, 2080ti. If you ignore path tracing + ray reconstruction + the vram (and framegen if you care about that), the 3080 is usually faster than a 5060ti and the 2080ti a 5060.
>I need an Nvidia card
wise man

>>106977977
unfortunately

Imagine if Nvidia wasn't sabotaged by (((them))) and actually bought ARM 5 years ago, we would probably be living on the moon by now...

>>106978753
thanks
I originally just wanted something to flog hdds with before they went into my home server, but now I want it as a secondary PC too
Need to remove, clean and polish the acrylic, the giant proprietary fans are still in good shape atleast

>>106975680
It's too late, it's not going to go much higher. The play now is to wait for black friday sale and it will go back down a bit.

>>106975922
>spend as much money as an entire high end pc on just your screen
No

>>106975977
>Deliberately showing static logo 24x7 for years will kill any display all the same
Not true, I have my browser open 10+ hours a day and the top bars haven't done anything to my 15 year old monitor.

>>106979005
the 5060 is good if you don't have high expectations.
the 5070 is around 2x stronger, the 5060 ti is slightly weaker than the 5070 but the 5060 TI 16gb can get much better graphics than the 8gb 5060 TI version in very specific games (AKA games that require a 9800x3d to reach stable 100+fps) and most games run the same or better on a 5070 because 4gb more doesn't make much a difference, it only matters when you run out of memory, also note that using more vram will never give you more FPS.
the problem with the 5060 is that the laptop version of the 5060 is identical, usually when you hear about laptop gpu's being weaker, it's only when they falsely advertise that the GPU is the same as a desktop GPU, when it's 1 tier lower (the 5070 mobile is a slightly better 5060 chip, but the 5060 chip only has 8gb of vram, unlike 5070 12gb, you can check which chip is used on a GPU on techpowerup).
so you could find a deeply discounted 5060 or 4060 laptop (like $700), it would give a decent experience.

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>>106979348
???
The screen is the most important part of the build by far. It SHOULD be your most expensive part.
What's the point of a 5090 if you can't actually see the graphics?

>>106979466
What's the point of having a son if he troons out and chops his cock off. Your parents ask themselves this everyday.

>>106971268
Memory speed isn't that important for X3d cpu's unlike it's non x3d counterparts so the performance loss is negligible

>>106977791
>or wait for tandem WOLED with a glossy finish.
You mean the XG27AQWMG? That's what I'm deciding to trade my current monitor for, it looks promising. I can't find any downsides about it though, not sure if I'm being misled by something.

>>106979601
>I can't find any downsides about it though
It's going to be expensive. Buy once, cry once, and all.

>>106979601
its a bit sad tandem oleds cant compete with qd oled on color volume
then 1440p is probably fine but glossy 4k is what image clarity enthusiasts are looking forward to

>>106976787
>Planning on waiting till cyber Monday to buy stuff just in case I actually manage to get a deal on anything
Do not wait that long, everything good will be gone. Start looking for deals near the end of the month and check daily. The second you see something going for 20%+ off grab it.

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>>106979882
They ain't gonna come, they don't care for the brand war stuff.

>>106976995
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTHCPsM5ECw
Thanks for posting this now I'm having another mental breakdown. For all the time I've been doing this research everyone said the arctic LF 3 pro was the best aio hands down. But this video says it's actually one of the worst. How can his results be so different from everyone else? I'm considering sending it back and getting something else but how can I know if this guy is lying or what?

>>106977646
Thanks for input. Mobo is actually one of the cheapest B850s out there. Seems crazy that going under 200 bucks is mega cheap for motherboard these days.

Any predictions on when the ram ""shortage"" gonna end?

>>106980098
>Mobo is actually one of the cheapest B850s out there
Huh? is it?
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#sort=price&f=2&R=5,4&c=169
Thats b850 mobos with 4 or 5 stars in pcpartpicker (not that ratings there mean a lot) ordered by price. I dont know what you need off your motherboard but at 300$ it is a very pricey mobo
>Any predictions on when the ram ""shortage"" gonna end?
Not even gonna try, we dont know exactly why is it happening beyond "muh IA"

>>106976210
What i need to change?

>>106981019
whats the use case and budget again?

>>106978625
Blue board

>>106978625
sexy

>>106973681
nahimic is from realtek, not msi. my asrock board has the same thing. disable onboard audio if it bothers you. or you can install the generic realtek hda drivers, thats what i did.