Thread 106976579

How come they are in an endless loop of fixing and breaking shit?
KDE 5 last minor was perfect, no bugs, smooth, fast
KDE 6 was completely broken
The last KDE update was also smooth and good enough
The latest one is full of BUGS AGAIN, why do we have to wait for 15 patch updates to have a stable desktop again just for it to go downhill the next minor?

>>106976579 (OP)
Is there any jeet in the devs?

>>106976579 (OP)
this has always been the KDE cycle, it used to take way longer, KDE 5 wasn't good until a few minor releases before the first LTS release, KDE 4 was a shitfest until shortly before KDE 5 released
KDE priorities seem to have become fucked up thanks to new leadership since a year ago or so, I'd guess that's why they started to break more shit

>>106976579 (OP)
Hah, I don't have that problem.

Win11, btw.

>>106976579 (OP)
kde is trash

>>106976688
yes

>>106976706
Nate, an ex apple employee, made a company around the Valve contract and took over KDE leadership and top devs

>>106976579 (OP)
That's why you should use LXQT instead

>>106976913
use xfce its cuter and has a mascot

KDE: rhymes with 'gay'de, people say 'krash' with a k, easily made fun of
GNOME: retarded suggested pronunciation. bloated, foot fetish logo, easily made fun of
Xfce: easily called 'xfeces', outdated and looks like windows 3.1 levels of obsolete. easily made fun of
Cinnamon - normal, good looking. nobody makes fun of

>>106976952
>"normal, good looking. nobody makes fun of"
>hard fork of GNOME 3, so it's javascript but without the extensions but also mutter without wayland
>gave up on trying to compete and started using libadwaita apps by default
>website got hacked
>clem makes thousands each month but doesnt pay devs
>design was updated the last version to match adwaita

>>106977006
>doesn't have gayland
I don't see the problem. I couldn't tell the difference if it did. this is just autism, everything works
>muh HDR
go back to linux Tech Tips nobody gives a fuck about HDR

>>106976952
More like
>KDE: Win10-like interface that eases Windows-Linux transition
>GNOME: Productivity maximized
>XFCE: Stable and Lightweight XP-like experience
>Cinnamon: D E P R E C A T E D

>>106976913
>>106976946
Unfortunately if you have a tablet pc and you need touchscreen you don't have other choices if not KDE or GNOME (the experience sucks on both, but at least you have the bare minimum)

>>106976579 (OP)
It's time to embrace tradition. Revert to KDE 3.5. You know you want to. https://trinitydesktop.org/

>>106976867
Jesus, check out that misshaped head.

ebussy's use-case driven development proven superior yet again. GNOME hasn't had major bugs in many releases now.

linux lost

>>106977566
>2019
Better update soon, dummy.

>>106977006
>gave up on trying to compete and started using libadwaita apps by default

They forked those libadwaita apps which no doubt makes GNOME devs seethe.

>>106977590
its EOL is in 2029

>>106977640
Ehh. Technically ya. But it's already really really old and you're going to get more incompatibility. i was told by the wage cucks IT people at my work they don't really like making new 2019s and would prefer people go to 2022. Probably some extended release licensing bs.

serves as another reminder that the linux desktop still doesn't have feature or stability parity with windows xp
it's very grim that fucking windows LTSC IoT ATM machine or server editions >>106977566 are the only things usable

Works on my machine

>>106977546
I call it "bloatware tax". The more features you add to a program, the more bugs you have. And when the people who added the feature fucked off, it became unmaintained and broke in a couple of updates.
KDE, because they still have this youngish mentality of "let's allow everything, and we'll sort it later." IS HEAVILY TAXED. They try to appeal to everyone, trying to fill the needs of everyone with a shitload of features that are, in fact, "very niche" at best, and then they end up with a product that is garbage for everyone.
GNOME realised that and decided that they will not try to be the DE perfect for everyone. Their focus is on a DE that appeals to a large number of users that want something that looks nice out of the box, that feels right when using, that doesn't require a billion features and, above all, want something that works 100% of the time. And they excelled at their objective. GNOME is by far the most beautiful DE out of the box. And by a long shot, the most stable.

>>106977684
mainstream support ended a year ago, so strictly security updates forward. yet no issues and i use this as a desktop doing anything you can imagine including some multiplayer games with anticheats

i'll switch over to 2022 when i make a whole new build, this just works so well and i have everything set up just how i like it. heard 2022 has been somewhat flimsy in regards to its updates so its best to wait until it leaves mainstream support

>>106977684
>>106977801
>i'll switch over to 2022 when i make a whole new build
with a pre-2021 CPU that is. everything turned to shit after that anyway.

>>106977794
Gnome is equally retarded, just in the opposite direction.
Here's one for you - If an application wants to open a terminal, like for managing a wine prefix in Lutris, Gnome only accepts a HARDCODED predefined list of terminal apps that can be called. Only way to load up a different terminal with error is to fucking symlink and spoof the one you want to use as one of the 'approved' ones.
There's pushing 'usecases', and then there's refusing to comprehend the Halting Problem and that you can't predict every legitimate use case. At least KDE gives you configurability to work around things easily.

>>106978052
>predefined list of terminal apps that can be called.
yes, GNOME is designed to be predictable, that is why is more stable.

>>106978217
Design intent and actual execution are two very different things unfortunately

>>106976579 (OP)
>im rebasing to fedora-kinoite-43 as we speak

>>106976579 (OP)
https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/6/6.5.0/

6.5 is still in testing on arch e.g. not my problem
Don't use meme distros next time

>>106977460
>Kmix not working
>Knetworkconf module missing

>>106976913
poo in the loo

>>106976712
>wiin1 too
watching a guy try to installs steam on gnome. it doesnt work has to tinker. on win 11 double click next next next finish...just werks

>>106978664
kinoite is based

>>106976579 (OP)
>>106976952
>>106977062
>>106977306
>>106977709
go back, retarded newfag

They should switch to rust or ada

>>106976579 (OP)
The authentic KDE experience

>>106976579 (OP)
What kind of fucking reprobate updoots their DE the same day it is released?
Hell I don't even think any distro has pushed it already. And even if you're using KDE neon then you only have yourself to blame.

>>106976579 (OP)
linux users say that their toy OS is ready and then post this.

>using SSDM
Just run this when you log in
dbus-run-session startplasma-wayland

>>106980137
>kde fallen so hard
>it now launched by way[land] of dbus
Kill me now.

>>106979435
Not nearly as based as Qubes OS!

>>106976579 (OP)
>KDE 5 last minor was perfect, no bugs, smooth, fast
Then keep using it?

>>106976952
Have you considered:
Qt = queer trans
Gtk = gas the kikes

also:
Jdownloader = jewdownloader
yt-dlp = whitey-dlp

>>106980371
That's how you launch anything that you want to use with dbus. It's not required, but then you will have to do shit like mount your USB drives manually.
I don't even have systemd installed.

>>106980371
your pic happens to me a lot but luckily i only really peed the bed once

this is what happens when you let a bunch of shitters keep introducing useless "features" that nobody wants or needs.

>>106976886
>nate
higger?

>>106980421
I never knew that was what it is an accronym for. But makes sense so obviously true

>>106976579 (OP)
you couldnt wait for a point release?

>>106980403
>Then keep using it?
KDE and Qt kill old versions fast.
KDE only supports the latest minor release. Qt only for commercial customers.

>>106976688
they have a official website
https://conf.kde.in/

>>106978930
"An" is used before vowels.

>>106981780
an hero.

>>106979574
You have no idea how wimpy insulting someone over \n looks

>>106981780
>"An" is used before vowels.
>an universe
>a hour
english is so broken
I hate that this became the defacto international language

>>106981929
You have no idea how mentally ill you are for sperging out about paragraphs becaus you are retarded enough to let a tranny or a jew program you into thinking Reddit invented paragraphs.

>>106978052
What's the usecase for lutris opening a terminal? How is it the WM's responsibility to choose which terminal to launch?

>>106981961

>You have no idea how mentally ill you are for sperging out about paragraphs becaus you are retarded enough to let a tranny or a jew program you into thinking Reddit invented paragraphs.

you have no idea what a paragraph is

this is not a paragraph

and this is not a paragraph either

none of these are paragraphs

>>106982235
>retarded
>fails at basic English

You must be a Pinoy or Jeet.

>>106976579 (OP)
>Smooth scrolling gone on some apps on 6.5.0
https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/1odtwtw/smooth_scrolling_gone_on_some_apps_on_650/
>Direct Scanout seems to be buggy in Plasma 6.5
https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/1oe10y0/direct_scanout_seems_to_be_buggy_in_plasma_65/
incompetence

>>106976579 (OP)
Just use GNOME.

Yes, it sucks, but every alternative is worse.

>>106976579 (OP)
>kde neon
*yawn*

>>106976579 (OP)
That's what you get for using Sepples.

>>106976579 (OP)
had the same problem turns out zypper only does partial updates via up you need dup for it it works fine since then. It did not fix the stupid three finger zoom however thats still a "features" you need to disable via dbus.

>>106977794
Wow, ebussy, that was uplifting.

>>106976579 (OP)
I switched to LXQT just in time, it'd seem

>>106976946
gtk trash, no thanks

>>106977365
Sxmo BTFOs every convergent UX out there.

KDE has been pretty good this year but dolphin has been buggy like crazy. hangs for KDE connect stuff. hangs when renaming/changing pictures of files, same on the desktop. pls fix cause it's really good if there weren't all sorts of hanging crashes that make me fear for the file I was writing.

>>106977460
not available for devuan excalibur yet

>>106980137
use Vogtinator:sddm btw if some of you haven't found this. my opensuse install would hang for 2 mins on shutdown because the official repo is retarded with SDDM.

>>106976579 (OP)
Maybe Gnome can lend then a few bug chasers.

>>106983303
gtk just werks, gtk 4 is fully vulkan gpu rendered and xfce has the best and most consistent themes. Krashede default theme is not even consistent between kirigami and qtwidgets. lifes good.

>>106983387
you can't even theme gtk anymore, it's either low contrast light theme slop or low contrast dark theme slop

>>106983405
yes you can retard, nothing has changed, libadwaita is also themable, just place your css in ~/.config/gtk-4.0/gtk.css and they will both apply it

>>106983416
oh, you mean the css all gtk shit breaks on purpose on minor version changes just to fuck with people?

>>106976579 (OP)
Yeah I used to defend KDE, becuase for a long time it did more or less just work. But lately it really has earned the moniker KrashDE. Seriously, I just updated everything and restarted my computer, within 2 minutes had a popup about KIOHandler crashing. I get those fuckers non-stop nowadays. Open dolphin and browse to a folder, get like 5 of them. Anything I do it's constantly crashing behind the scenes, if I look at my logs it's littered with drkonqi bullshit. About to legit say fuck it and switch to FVWM or something. Fuck KDE and KDE apps. Krita is shit too, probably have better performance running PS in Wine, fucking somehow.

>>106983337
lmao nice one Carlos

>>106983444
>within 2 minutes had a popup about KIOHandler crashing
taboo drkonqi. two second fix. but things like this
>Open dolphin and browse to a folder, get like 5 of them
never seen that, except when spamming open a folder when KDE connect was used earlier to open my phone files until I unlock my phone. I get hangs on renames and other strange crap like that lately.

>>106979699
>What kind of fucking reprobate updoots their DE the same day it is released?
KDE has updates pretty often, and people tend to update fairly rapidly to new point releases in the (vain) hope that it will fix all the krashing and bullshit. It never does though. It is an endless cycle.

>>106981592
>KDE and Qt kill old versions fast
No they dont.
https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/5.04/
>KDE only supports
Aww baby needs updoots, sowwy :(

>>106976712
based

>>106983607
>No they dont.
yes they fucking do just because you can download it it doesnt mean its supported and doesnt have a billion security issues
some of us use our computers for more than just porn

>>106983428
>thing that doesnt happen often
the last 'breakage' i can think of was the window controls that changed to be clickable even outside their visual boundaries, like you faggots have been complaining about for years so now when you click the top right corner of the window the close button is clicked

>>106983444
>Yeah I used to defend KDE, becuase for a long time it did more or less just work
i've probably argued with you here. FUCK YOU GULLIBLE NIGGER
WINDOWS LTSC WON, ADMIT IT
ADMIT IT LOONTROON

>>106976867
Why are KDE and the KKK so obsessed with 'k' puns?

>>106983679
>His software literally dies once its devs stop "supporting" it
Works on my machine

>>106983688
>so now when you click the top right corner of the window the close button is clicked
I use lxqt, have gtk_nocsd installed and put my window controls on the left... so it doesn't affect me. gn*me in fact has fucked with gtk so much the only way there can be look parity is if someone copies the l&f of adwaita... which is the ugliest shit I've ever seen. Instead of that, however, I can just stay on gimp 2.10 (considering gtk2 doesn't have this problem), use any text editor and cringe a little when I have to open audacity.
>>106983853
I'll never use winblows again, not even if you point a loaded gun to my head.

>>106984248
you are retarded

>>106984306
still not gonna use gtk slop :)

>>106976579 (OP)
>The last KDE update was also smooth and good enough
>The latest one is full of BUGS AGAIN
Was the "last" one LTS?

>>106976712
Watch what I can do :DDDD

>>106976579 (OP)
Jeets sar jai hind!

>>106981951
>>106981780
That's the simplified rule. The actual rule is use "an" if the word starts with a vowel sound. "a" if it does not

can someone explain how KDE is safe to transfer files between a phone and a pc ? i mean i know it connect to your WLAN, so if someone want to see what was sent, they need to hack into your WLAN or have a backdoor?

>>106984839
just use a usb cable

>>106976579 (OP)
>retard updated only half the packages
>has errors
WOW, wait till your distro has all packages updated.

>>106984910
>"you cant insult kde saar, kde holy cow piss here saar"
>"your distro half-updated the packages saar"

>>106976946
fyi lxqt has a hummingbird as a mascot

>>106985248
not hot

>>106983853
>implying I would even consider the trash that is windows as an alternative
If I ever give up loonix it'll be for mac os (if they don't completely ruin it first). Haven't used windows since WindowsME™ lmao.