Thread 106978155

What sort of screen technology will we have after OLED era is over?

>>106978155 (OP)
Micro cathode ray tubes

>>106978155 (OP)
MicroLED.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroLED

>>106978171
>tech that isnt a thing yet
great! when can I buy a 1440p-4k monitor with it around 1k$ tho?

>>106978721
>only wanting to pay 1k
just say you hate jews

>>106978721
buy once cry once retard

>>106978793
>no argument
well done exposing your retardation shill
>>106978757
>and an anti semitic on top
wew calm it with the remarks brother, i just don't wanna waste 2-4k trillion dollar for a 1440p60hz display

>>106978162
SED https://youtu.be/wATx4KjECDA?t=45

>>106978839
Oy vey, how could you possibly suggest that it should only cost 4-6k trillion dollars? Do you really think these companies can survive on a meager 6-8k trillion dollars? I truly thought we moved past such blatant antisemitic tropes, consider making a donation of 8-10k trillion dollars to your local synagogue to make amends.

>>106978171
kek
天之下, partner

just buy oled or be content being poor

>>106978721
When the technology is here. We have OLED, IPS, VA and TN until then, but that's likely the next display tech.

We have to go back.

WHEN IS QDEL (Mircroled) COMING OUT FUCK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LteGcNgn4Oc

>>106979567
vga lcd is fine for non-gaming

my VA panel also has burn-in lol

>>106979760
>Cringe Retard Tech
no thanks

>>106978155 (OP)
IPS glow seems the least bad

>IPS glow
>turn down brightness
>????
>profit

>>106980381
This really would be a nice solution but my monitor has a minimal brightness that cant go any lower. It still glows far too much

>>106979760
LCD vs CRT, but if we assume CRT looks good, then LCD is good, because I'm looking at this with a modern LCD IPS screen and the CRT looks good to me..

>>106980496
I'm pretty sure nvidia and amd have options in their windows gpu software to adjust other variables. X11 has all kinds of methods, and there's some software solutions here and there.

>>106978171
MicroLED is literally at a dead end for reasonably sized consumer models

I think QDEL is the next thing on the horizon for now

>>106980599
theres the >100" rgb miniled tvs out now
ltt made a video about one. low amount of dimming because each r g b has to be controlled separately

probably better than oled for brightness, but more blooming

>>106980569
I think software methods reduce brightness by making colours darker and dont touch the backlight at all. It wont help with ips glow, it might even make it look worse cause you will see less with the same amount of light coming from the screen

>>106980617
What does that have to do with MicroLED and QDEL?

Are you getting your acronyms mixed up like a confused little normie?

>>106980636
rgb miniled is the next thing happening

>>106980638
THOSE USE THE SAME FUCKING TYPE OF LCD PANELS WE CURRENTLY FUCKING USE IN EVERYTHING

It's literally just using RBG backlights for MUH BRIGHTER COLORS at the expense of even worse local dimming performance

GOD no wonder manufacturers can get away with this shit, everyone is just a mindless consumer distracted by shiny dangling keys

>>106980652
they're for home theaters where you watch movies

I use oled on pc and we're at a state where to get oled quality on pc you have to invest <200€ annually so thats practically solved problem.

>>106980659
Oh, you're a retarded euro, probably a shitskin
No wonder everything you are saying makes little sense

>>106978155 (OP)
>va ghosting
that's not how va ghosting works lmao

it's literally only with black and since VA panels are 180 hz and above now it's not even an issue anymore.

>>106979526
Canon and I think it was Sony are still holding patents for this

>>106980696
I hear VA ghosting is caused by the awful pixel response times rather than the refresh rate. High refresh rate VA panels still have terrible pixel response times

>>106979807
Hyping tech without any indication that it's better or even feasible... ngmi

>>106980746
yeah? prove it.

>>106980822
I cant, i made it up

>>106980696
Those are strong words. VA panels remain unusable for me and there is not much research to improve them. Let's just forget about them already.

>>106980868
sounds like you're just brown

>QDEL rumored 2026
>MicroLED rumored 2027
>plus 3-5 years bugfixing
awesome

>>106980696
>since VA panels are 180 hz and above now it's not even an issue anymore.
The issue is very noticeable to the point that I switch to an IPS panel for it.

>>106980893
It's an indefinite timeline... Once they fix all issues they might ship it, but same as with OLED monitors it took years until they were available to buy. Don't think about the promises of future tech, you will not get it.

>>106980893
yes i too prefer half my monitor being brighter than the other all the time.

>>106978155 (OP)
Man you should have just desaturated the image for tn, increased the black levels and decresead white levels, or fucked with the levels.

>>106978155 (OP)
We had the perfect display tech, but you wanted your display thin.

>>106978155 (OP)
Don't forget that all of these technologies suffer from sample&hold motion blur
While CRT doesn't

>>106982124
gives me an ick

>TN viewing angles
Why is this an issue?

>>106978155 (OP)
SED or FED makes a comeback, but the maker gets killed, and it magically disappears again. Would be perfect display technology, and that's why it'll never get released.

>>106978155 (OP)
>IPS glow
unavoidable, do not buy IPS panels cannot avoid at all
>VA ghosting
unavoidable, do not buy VA panels cannot avoid at all
>TN angles
unavoidable do not buy TN panels cannot avoid at all
>OLED burn-in
avoidable buy new panel when it happens

OLED wins (if you are not poor faggot)

>>106978155 (OP)
a *little* bit of ghosting can connect the frames a bit more
it's the best compromise that can even make better motion blur

>>106980889
>QDEL
how will that help anyway? don't QD OLEDs have purple tint because of the quantum dot layers?

>>106983079
Based moneychad.

>>106983135
>motion blur
>better
you mean that setting I turn off the instant I ever see it? that motion blur? it will be better than literally off?

>>106983079
I am kind mad and wanna stay that way, but it is 100% truth. If you have money to buy new monitor every (IDK 6-12 months) you are golden with it.
I cannot think of a single argument against doing that if you have the money.

>>106983236
>new monitor every (IDK 6-12 months)
absolute state of unironic g

>>106983164
shit's all chink taoist magic to me
some marketer described QDEL as "NanoLED" in how narrow it can get to individual lighting, which sounds fantastic since MiniLED has such obvious zone lighting

THERE WILL NEVER BE A CURE

YOU WILL ALWAYS NEED TO BUY A NEW MONITOR

THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN MAKING QUALITY PRODUCTS THAT LAST 10 YEARS

>>106983291
>Shizo posting shizo pictures and comments
state of /g/ in 2025
Go on /x/ lowlife.

I have a 4k IPS that I still use as main monitor that's like a decade old now. Is there anything out there now that's worth it or should I just keep waiting

My overclocked 85hz random crap CRT from 2007 felt better to use than most monitors I use today

>>106979760
comparing crt against a 20+ year old lcd, very intelligent

>>106978155 (OP)
tandem OLED
burn-in especially on monitors takes so fucking long that you'll want to replace the monitor by the time you notice any burn-in, like 12 years of normal use
microLED is never happening as it will always be too expensive to produce

>>106980696
I keep seeing this claim with no evidence and every va panel that's shown has the worst ghosting I've ever seen.

I love this like you cannot believe, a shame that it's only made by a jewish company

>>106982137
>a troon game, played by a troon on a trinitroon

>>106985408
i have yet to actually see evidence to the contrary of your own claim for a monitor made in 2025 with a refresh rate of 180hz or higher.

>>106980652
they should just revive plasma, make it 8k and lets go, that would be the shit

>>106985397
>burn-in especially on monitors takes so fucking long that you'll want to replace the monitor by the time you notice any burn-in, like 12 years of normal use
I have a dock at the bottom with a clock and other information shit that is there the entire time. Are you telling me that it's going to take 12 years to burn in because I don't believe you.

>>106985775
It's 12 years of use assuming 2 hours of activity per day. You know, retarded made up statistics. Because normies don't sit at their home PC for 18 hours. Everyone is a responsible drone and consume only the approved amount of entertainment per day.

Basic bitch LG C1 in daily desktop use since 2022 and no burn-ins

Plasmakings, we can't stop winning!!!

>>106978155 (OP)
Since when not letting other people see what you're doing is a downside? TN wins.

>>106978155 (OP)
Plasma

plasma has worse burnin

>>106978155 (OP)
sooo... just get a TN and place it in front of you? yeah that was hard

Which TN monitor had the best TN panel for image quality post-calibtation? I'm just not gonna OLED, is all.

>>106978155 (OP)
OLED is the only one which does not have fault by design but by misuse/overuse.
OLED wins.

>>106985913
The fact that it quickly degrades with perfectly normal usage means it has an inherent design flaw in the technology.

IPS is fine enough until Micro LED is solved. Until then I'm avoiding literal disposable technology like OLED as much as possible.

>>106985706
I'm not going to buy a smeary mess for $300+ to test myself, and I can't find any footage anywhere of anyone using these things outside of static image displays and unboxing slop.

>>106978721
I have seen 50 inch 8k TVs with microled sold for around $1k. You could use one of them.

until microled appears, youll have to cope with miniled ips like the xiaomi g pro 27i

>>106978155 (OP)
Hyper-reactive self luminescent e-ink

>>106978155 (OP)
Micro-array laser rear projection displays

>>106979760
>>106980532
>>106985337
I never had a CRT that looked that good. Or a Sony one for that matter, makes me suspicious of the CRT being well above average while the LCD looks like Dell's cheapest junk. Going to need more than a bullshit pic to convince more than the occasional newfag, plus there's also a convenience factor to overcome with modern tech.

>>106989658
Like I said, the fact that CRT looks "good" while viewing it from my LCD proves that its all bullshit.

>>106987136
all you'd have to do is go to rtings to know that everything you've claimed about va panels in 2025 is dated information and a straight up fucking lie basically. you couldn't even do that.

>>106982124
It sucked in a brightly lit room.

>>106989876
Rtings is (understandably) slow to update and don't have the models I've been looking into. Again, every video I've ever seen of them are either still images or smeary messes, even in 2025.
I want to see one that shows a situation where they would usually smear and they don't.

>>106989941
Just turn off the light nigga.

Just buy OLED and replace it retards. Burn in on modern OLEDs is so fucking rare people are still using LG CX OLEDs without any visible burn in.
What good is $10k microLED that lasts as long as 10 $1k OLEDs?

>>106985453
China has a ton of e-ink products, but most of them are for domestic consumers, unfortunately.

>>106979567
>>106980659
>>106983079
>>106983400
>>106991483
>just submit to planned obsolescence, goy!
no.

none of this shit matters and nobody who matters can actually tell the difference

I'm still waiting for my TCL VA Mini-LED to arrive

OLED displays have burn-in problems because the blue diode is significantly less durable than the red and green, about 1000x weaker, so the blue diode needs to be driven quite hard at a high current density, at which point the quantum efficiency falls off very severely. Current 3rd gen OLEDs have 16% external quantum efficiency. The blue emitter is unstable. Phosphorescent OLEDs (2nd gen) are what all the physicists and engineers trying to figure out how to get working (it's very hard - things like doping the emission layer with heavy metals is restricted by the EU - their environmental laws and LCD marketing is what killed the CRT), which might be in 6-8 years, since those have halflives 100x greater than the current 3rd gen fluorescent organic diodes. OLEDs are horribly complex, there's a lot of quantum mechanics in them.

>>106985502
Sorry, I don't understand your language.

>>106985502
funny how crt haters have troons living rentfree in their heads. must be some mental disorder similar to being a troon.

>>106978155 (OP)
for anything interactive(games), ideally crt.
it's embarrassing that you need to generate 1000 frames in a 3d game to even approach the clarity of 60 frames on a crt. 60Hz might flicker a little so 120Hz on crt is comfy enough for extended sessions.
but 90%+ people don't even know or see any issues with their screens with built in motion blur, so 'business models' will decide we will NEVER get something better than crt. enjoy them while they last.

i have a 32' 240hz 4k woled display and i love it, games and movies look crystal clear with great colors. you guys take things too seriously i mean if it looks good its good whats the problem?

>>106992317
ignorance is bliss in this scenario. enjoy.

once you know who good things can actually look, you'll be dismayed by the current state of tech.

>>106978155 (OP)
TN shitty colors is more of a detriment than viewing angle.

>>106985337
>comparing age appropriate tech to age appropriate tech
Why yes, he is indeed very intelligent. What is the problem?

>>106991896
Everything is under planned obsolescence you moronic mutt!
You can ether use obsolete ancient and mostly useless tech or just ignore the machinery and focus on YOUR OWN enjoyment.
I buy OLED panels as they are SUPERIOR in every way yo all others and if I notice burn in I sell it and buy new one.
Simple as fuck.
You use your disgusting 1000 kilos heavy CRT adn delude yourself you are somehow "winning" against other goy

>>106980532
>>106989864

>>106978155 (OP)
>What sort of screen technology will we have after OLED era is over?
IPS