Thread 107034813

5070 ti vs 9070 xt

>>107034813 (OP)
> Coughing baby versus Hydrogen Bomb
> Fight!

>>107034844
Poor 5070 ti coughing it's lungs out

Why did AMD stop at 16GB for their consumer GPUs this generation?

>>107034813 (OP)
Simple as

>>107034874
16gb is all you need for gaming and rdna4 is 100% gaming focused card. it gets crushed in blender and productivity and nvenc by nvidia.

>>107034813 (OP)
Are you just going to be using your GPU primarily for gaming or are you going to be doing more with it?

That card is not meant to be $700

>>107034887
AMD critically needs a solution to the 3D rendering problem. I can't buy an AMD GPU because their cards have horrible price-to-performance in Blender compared to Nvidia, like about half the performance (if not worse) compared to an Nvidia GPU of the same price.

>>107034905
it's called just wait for udna technology

>>107034888
Amd doesn't have path tracing performance, or alternatives to RayReconstruction and ai framegen

>>107034905
AMDrones tell me
1. It's just as good
and
2. That's Blender's fault
and
3. Just buy a $15,000 Threadripper CPU
and
4. Wait for UDNA/RDNA5/More Lisa Su hype

>>107034905
>>107034925
companies cant use zluda or else nvidia will sue them to oblivion
lots of pro software is based on old code. as in its grandfathered into cuda or old libraries. amds new libraries just arent compatible or requires new software. its not amds job to create blender they just make hardware.

imagine being a wincuck in the big 25 lmao

>>107034943
>companies cant use zluda or else nvidia will sue them to oblivion
and if they do that they're getting raped for monopolistic practices
this isn't a can of worms that nvidia wants to open

>>107034927
>alternatives to RayReconstruction and ai framegen

They're supposed to be getting those in the upcoming FSR Redstone release.

>>107034813 (OP)
>generally worse performance in basically any application
>lacks a ton of features, or is plain worse at them (also often 2 or more years late to make inferior copies of new technology)
>price isn't competitive at all
there is literally no reason to choose the AMD card.

Imagine not having DLSS, LMAO

>nvidia is paying for shilling on a loonix board
not very clever are they

>>107034968
>2H 2025

>>107034968
>2H 2025
>It's fucking November
Oh nononono, lol hahahaha

>>107035000
There is nothing wrong with using NVIDIA on linux. AMD needs proprietary blobs as well anyway.

>>107034876
>>107034851
These 2 images show exactly the opposite thing. I want to kill myself.
THIS IS TOO MUCH INFORMATION
TOO MUCH MISINFORMATION
TOO MANY LIES

>>107034813 (OP)
I use linux so I bought a 9070
If you're on windows it comes down to which brand you like more or which card you can get a better deal on

>>107035049
Ones a real game, and ones a synthetic benchmark + gpu with an unstable oc.

>>107035064
one's an edge case
nvidiacucks can't comprehend the concept of an average apparently

>>107035039
>There is nothing wrong with using NVIDIA on linux.
Lol, lmao even...

Radeon retards know all about average they got a lotta experience with average

>>107035084
Way to out yourself as having never used either on Linux only parroting AMDrone slander.

I have 3 novideo gpus and 4 amd gpus. I know which ones I'll keep buying

>>107035049
5080 suprim oc is slower than 7900xtx REFERENCE STOCK and a 9070xt oc is faster than a 7900xtx and 5080
>>107034851

>>107035088
>Way to out yourself

>>107035088
try again

>>107035039
I just want Nvidia to add system memory fallback into the Linux driver like the Windows driver has so if the GPU runs out of VRAM, the program can offload the excess memory into RAM instead of crashing altogether.

>>107035074
>edge case
>>107035095

>>107035124
yes retard, edge case
compare an average of multiple games instead of being a cherrypicking gaylord

>>107035088
There are so many shit that just dont work with nvidia on Linux, are you retarded?
I guess a man with no legs can live too...

>>107035133
:)

>>107035143
>launch drivers

>>107034888
Gaming mostly, not planning for much else but I could do something else.

>>107034813 (OP)
9070 is 4000 more than 5070

>>107035114
>gaymen
DX12 performance is indeed an (at least acknowledged) issue, seeing as AMD performance is worse too, i'd just use Windows for it like any sane person.

Do you have anything else relevant? Some bigger issues with AMD of the top off my head
>ROCM support is somehow still horrible and isn't officially supported on most GPUs
>garbage launch day support
>reset bug (assuming the passthrough works AT ALL lmao)
>no hdmi 2.1
Software support is bad for both on linux, but at least CUDA and Optix are very stable on NVIDIA.

>>107034813 (OP)
My 2080ti from ebay is still going strong, but if I were buying a new card today I'd probably go for the 9070xt. AMD hardware tends to age better than NV, and it works perfectly with Linux.
DLSS had been a key selling point for NV for a few generations, but FSR4 seems to be close enough now.

>>107035278
>AMD hardware tends to age better than NV
Genuine delusion

RX9070 XT is better. 50 dollars cheaper, settled.

>>107035284
There's one area where NV cards have aged better, which is DLSS. The 2080ti was a wildly overpriced disappointment at launch, but it's aged extremely well due to still supporting the latest DLSS SR models.
Aside from that, the "AMD fine wine" thing has historically proven true. GCN remained relevant and capable for a very long time.

>>107035278
>AMD hardware tends to age better than NV
unless they completely drop support, like they did with Vega

where in the fuck is the 70ti only 50$ more expensive than the 9070xt
in my country the bottom of the barrel models are about 150€ more expensive and then that difference slightly increases as you get to the more expensive brands and tops at about 220€ more expensive

>>107035667
Which would you prefer?

>>107035278
>AMD hardware tends to age better

>>107035667
It was $50 for a long time in the United States
5070 is a better value for 1080p and 1440p anyways.

>>107035689
oh boy, are they gonna cut off support for everything below RDNA4 after 4-5 years again too? lmao

So AMD just released FSR4 and abandoned RDNA3 completely? Zero official support for it? When DLSS4 runs on 20 series?

>>107035717
They physically can't support it because AMD because AMD sucks. RDNA3 and below will have to make do with the massively inferior FSR3 (presumably it won't be getting updates anymore either)

>>107035717
>>107035734
Works on Linux.
BTW Nvidia still havent fixed their driver issues on Linux or Windows. 30% slower than AMD RADV.

>>107035763
>30% slower than AMD RADV
Skull-fucked AMDick cocksucker spewing bullshit like the mind-broken cucksoomer he is.

>>107035813
What does this image mean?

>>107034813 (OP)
At least the amd one won't catch fire..

>>107035835
9070xt slower in linux than it is on windows

>>107035667
in the usa cheapest one in pcpp is 80$ difference
so not 50$ but not that far off, probably could get closer expanding the list of merchants, amerilandia is a big place

>>107034887
>it gets crushed in blender and productivity and nvenc by nvidia.
Not really VRAM dependent. AMD's video codec/ASIC is fucking awful though.
>Sandy Bridge QSV encodes better H.264 than both Polaris and Navi AMF can encode HEVC
>newer Intel QSV and even weakass old NVENC run circles around Navi and newer AMF regardless of codec
>their AV1 is worse than their own HEVC on the same GPU
AMD's hardware encoder was never very good, and it continuously gets WORSE with every new codec it adds.
When I stream to YouTube I set that shit to 50Mbps HEVC and just ignore Twitch/YouTube's bitching about the bitrate because any lower and it's artifact city.

>>107034813 (OP)
neither. Buy a motorcycle. Find a job. Move out of your parents home. Find a GF. Do something with your life and STOP PLAYING GAMES LIKE A CHILD

>>107034813 (OP)
9070 XT, because of Loonix.

>>107036032
You're right. But I'm going to trash your opinion anyway because I'm a digital addict. Thanks for the good advice, but I'm addicted.

>>107036046
Loonix? More like troonix. lol

total nvidinigger death. JeetForce driver team hasn't and will never fix the broken 1% lows and stuttering on rtx 50 series.

>>107036431
Lows I see on my 5070 aren't as bad as he gets on the 5070ti in ue5 games :)

>>107034813 (OP)
when you fall for the radeon meme

>>107036431
Who cares about borderlands 4 which runs at 60fps at qhd with a 5090?

>>107036487
Explain yourself

>>107034813 (OP)
>9070 has 4000 more graphics than the 5070 despite having the same amount of ram

honestly very efficient

>>107034813 (OP)
its 630€ vs 770€ here

>>107036004
it's not nearly as bad as you're making it out to be, especially because nvidia literally cheats at vmaf (they have an entire paper on it), nvenc h264 isn't "better than x264 veryslow" like nvidia wants you to believe, amd amf is perfectly fine for most use cases where you wouldn't use a software encoder, plus it really doesn't perform that much worse than nvenc when going for more traditional metrics like ssim/psnr
>Sandy Bridge QSV encodes better H.264 than both Polaris and Navi AMF can encode HEVC
absolutely not even remotely true lmao, this is a completely absurd claim.
>their AV1 is worse than their own HEVC on the same GPU
...source?
>and it continuously gets WORSE with every new codec it adds.
...source?
>When I stream to YouTube I set that shit to 50Mbps HEVC and just ignore Twitch/YouTube's bitching about the bitrate
...you cannot stream 50 mbps hevc to twitch, what the fuck are you even talking about.
>any lower and it's artifact city
again, you're on drugs
there's no way in hell amd's h265/av1 encoder is artifact city at 40-50 mbps for 1080p60, probably enough for 4k too for most content.
sure amd's encoders are subpar compared to nvenc and quicksync but why do you have to lie to this extent?

>>107036487
What happened?

>>107034813 (OP)
one works for AI the other doesn't

>>107034813 (OP)
Only 16gb is fucking inexcusable

>>107036032
Have a job, have a motorcycle, moved out and bought a house. Still play some games every now and then

>>107036032
>GPU are only for games
found the projecting /v/ tourist

>DLSS is broken with artifacts on many BF6 maps including the new season 1 battleroyale
>FSR 4 is totally fine and works great
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
JUST KYS NVIDIOTS YOU FUCKING LOST XD
TURNS OUT AI AND JEET CODED DRIVERS SUCK FAT COCK

>>107038530
>GPU are not only for games
found the projecting /biz/ /gd/ tourist

>>107035095
What this really tells me is that I did well to purchase a clearance 7900xt before the model refresh. The only thing I could complain about is 340w power draw at load.

>>107035734
Int8 version of fsr4 is available right now for use on older GPUs, all AMD needs to do is make it official, which they won’t do for some reason. Crazy how they support CPU sockets forever and then just ditch RDNA in the gutter every time a new gen comes out.

>>107042359
cpus are basically plug and play compared to the work that goes into the gpu drivers
amd is still waiting for their zen gpu moment and there's a big chance it'll happen with udna, they'll be able to print dies that can go into servers, workstations and the wider market while rdna couldn't do that because it's gamer only tech
maybe down the line they'll learn how to glue together shader dies and then you'll see them making monsters

>>107042423
So, it’s a tacit admission that they’re making crap that isn’t worth supporting? I’d like to think that’s not the case. I bought RDNA4 after all and I’m expecting my card to support all of that redstone stuff and more. If RDNA4 also gets dropped the way 1-3 have, I don’t see why I’d be interested. And this is coming from someone who has never given Nvidia a dime.

The plain facts:
-AMJeet GPUs are purposely gimped at the top end to suck in poortard reddit/jewtube fan goys as per their part of the duopoly agreement.
-Create hype around the 70-80% percentile tier cards with their shills
-Appeal to the literal 5% of the true market who are vocal and opinionated to keep them mostly satisfied and cheerleaders for team red
-AMDead GPUs prices and resell value drops like a rock as soon as the next card gen rolls around
-Suckered again

>>107042470
nvidia's marketshare is built on retards buying prebuilts and laptops lmao

>>107038140
Your own screenshot has AMD dead fucking last. Get off 4chan AND FIX YOUR SHIT LISA

>>107042460
rdna was objectively the wrong choice since the start
it's basically FX tier shit and i'm glad they're out of it
i won't be upset if my shit becomes obsolete if we're getting shit as revolutionary as zen3 was for cpus

>>107042562
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margin_of_error

>>107042563
I will, Nvidia customers are over there enjoying the latest tech on their obsolete cards, AMD can’t even get a modern upscaler working for a card that’s one gen old. I hope UDNA is great, too, but they better not screw over their customers again for bothering to choose them over the competition.

>>107042470
>AMDead GPUs prices and resell value drops like a rock as soon as the next card gen rolls around
My 3080's price dropped like a rock too, whats your point?
Honestly the 3080 is a sorely undervalued gaming upgrade option right now, they're cheap used and still get pretty great FPS across the board.

>>107034874
If they don't have cuda support there's literally no reason for more VRAM than even 12gb. High VRAM only has utility with AI shit and AMD is worthless there.

>>107042627
If that were true, the 3090 wouldn’t have had 24GB because no one was using AI back then. Workstation users also needed the VRAM and remember AMD sucks for that, too.

9070xt is the smart choice, especially for people moving gaming on Linux. of which there are more and more each day

>>107042640
That's my point. 12gb is more than enough for gaming and that's about all AMD is good for if it's even good for that. I'm convinced they only exist for broke thirdies to have something to cope about. If you had the money to buy Nvidia or AMD and went with AMD you might have brain problems.

>>107042706
linux is still way better because nvidia is full of kikes that love control and power over their users
imagine willingly switching to w11

>>107042621
>My 3080's price dropped like a rock too,
not as much as a 6800XT. they are two gens old now. amd will always seem as more obsolete into the past.

>>107035853
you found some 4K bullshit that nobody plays lmao

>>107035853
Only with ray tracing. I ran Deus Ex MD much faster on Linux.

>>107034927
>benchmarks include novideo fake frames™®
into the trash it goes. unbelievable how often this is posted but never called out.

>>107042949
9070XT bests 5070Ti in Port Royal benchmark which is a raytracing benchmark, top kek
>3DMark Port Royal is the world's first dedicated real-time ray tracing benchmark for gamers.

>>107043015
That benchmark has light RT, ones designed for RTX 20 Turing cards.
Nice to see the 9070 XT owner's level of expectations, it's barely better than Spider-Man console RT.

>>107043143
>3DMark Port Royal is the world's first dedicated real-time ray tracing benchmark for gamers.
literally the world's FIRST gay tracing benchmark, made by the best 3D benchmarking company around, and 5070Ti loses to 9070XT that's shameful as fuck lmao

>>107034927
>Muh nigger tracing
Found the nigger.

>>107042329
you can undervolt amd cards very well. you just have to sacrifice the absurd boost clocks. for example 9070xt can run as efficient as 5070ti if you dont make it boost to like 3ghz.

>>107043164
Look at this retard bragging about a benchmark that hasn't been updated since 2019.
Validated 5070 Tis have a higher average Port Royal score compared to validated 9070 XT results.
Only Radeon brand warriors brag about their 2025 release cards pumping frames in a console-tier benchmark.
Enjoy your console-tier RT.

>>107043219
>muh validations
you need your meds
>https://www.3dmark.com/pr/3677198
best 5070ti score from leaderboard, "validated"
vs
>https://www.3dmark.com/pr/3467368
best 9070xt score from leaderboard, also "validated". says so upper right "VALID RESULT"
again, shameful as fuck lmao

>>107042627
I use rocm / vulkan on my 7900xtx to run models and get 100+ tokens per second with qwen. The CUDA cult needs to stop with the FUD

>>107043243
Because there are 9070 XT BIOS with higher power draws, not a reflection of what this GPU is capable of out of the box.
It took a 9070 XT to boost past 3.6GHz to run that benchmark, less than 2 average FPS (233.5 FPS vs. 232) faster than the 5070 Ti (@ 3.3GHz) record you linked.

Meanwhile, in the more demanding Speed Way
>5070 Ti Average: 7811
>9070 XT Average: 6385

The best 9070 XT Speed Way record can't even match the 5070 Ti's average run score.
Over 20 average fps lower than the best 5070 Ti. That's your place.
https://www.3dmark.com/sw/1994898
https://www.3dmark.com/sw/2796878

>>107043285
>Because there are 9070 XT BIOS with higher power draws
nani? link to such great bios?

>>107043294
Retards like you are not given access to the BIOS that matter.

>>107043285
you found the only obscure benchmark that doesn't work on 9070xt.
Timespy Extreme 17275 9070XT vs 15703 5070Ti, literally the best known benchmark on the whole planet, nvidiots shit the bed yet again lmao

>>107043305
>lies like a retard
classic

>>107043285
also newest benchmark from 3DMark Steel Nomad:
9048 9070XT vs 8360 5070Ti. the data is clear on the matter

Steel Nomad Vulkan
9318 9070XT vs 8583 5070Ti

>>107043319
>only obscure benchmark
It's 3DMark's most GPU-demanding benchmark ever released.
https://benchmarks.ul.com/news/3dmark-steel-nomad-is-out-now

>best known benchmark on the whole planet
Because poorfag PCs and laptops can run that nine-year-old benchmark.

Keep running TimeSpy/Extreme and Port Royal on your 2025 video card.
Don't forget to stare at the theoretical performance numbers in GPU-Z as well.

>>107043329
Classic shithead not knowing the exclusivity of these XOC vBIOS.
Fuck off and go run Port Royal and Time Spy all day, you have 5070 Ti records to beat.

>>107035114
There are also rendering issues with ray tracing using vkd3d, cyberpunk for example looks wrong when compared to windows.

>>107043335
NVIDIA GPU design isn't prioritizing raster-only performance.
AMD's joining that same GPU design gang with UDNA/RDNA5. NVIDIA was right :)

It's not like Radeon has an answer to the 5090's raster anyway (18579 highest, 140K average).

>>107041001
Knowing amazon I can almost guarantee that's a scam. I ran into a fake seller even when trying to buy 9800X3D at MSRP.

>>107043347
That 9070 XT is less than 8 average FPS faster in the newest raster-only benchmark.
The 5070 Ti is nearly 15 average FPS faster in the toughest benchmark 3DMark has ever released.
That's worth the trade-off.

9070 XT owners posing as if RT didn't matter to them. If it didn't, you faggots would've bought the 7900 XTX.

>>107043408
>you would've bought a card that's 50% more expensive
meds

>>107043431
7900 XTX was discounted to sub $800 by the end of 2024 and towards the 9070 XT's release date.
Cope on faggot.

>>107043448
>source: my ass
also that's an awful amount of mindbreak to have as a nvidia shill lmao

>>107035095
>>107043540
lol

>>107043540
>t-the gap is narrower now
no shit, do you want a medal?
people buy the 9070xt because it's newer and because the extra cost isn't warranted in performance, not because of some schizo cope you conjured

>>107043527
>awful amount of mindbreak
>that's 50% more expensive
Your words.

>>107043544
Mind broken 7900 XTX always using outdated benchmarks :)
Drivers and game performance can be improved with patches, buggy hardware stays forever broken <:o)
Look at all these currently unfixed display bugs associated with your shitty RDNA3 GPU.
https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-25-9-2.html

what a shitshow

>>107043573
do they hire 10 year olds to shill for nvidia now? seriously this is sad

>>107043598
Says the retard who constantly shares cherry-picked & stale benchmarks. Stay mad.
It doesn't matter what you write or think, your card has unfixable defects.
Name-calling or shitposting on 4Chan won't unfuck your GPU.

>>107043613
see >>107035166
you lost
your idea of cherrypicking is to scoff at general purpose averages and dumpster dive for the one that specifically shows the biggest nvidia bias

>>107043643
You linked to a benchmark image where the content creator admitted to downclocking the 5070 Ti by over 300MHz from its average performance vs. a -20 MHz downclock on the 9070 XT.
Because that's what it takes to make Radeon cards look better than the 5070 Ti.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106970047/#106976657

I always win, you always lose.
It's a defloss on you since you own the abortion that is the 7900 XTX.

>>107043685
>he has a vicarious kike persecution complex for nvidia and thinks everyone is lying to make them look bad
you're so fucking miserable lmao

>>107043274
>Models
Name them

>>107043840
>thinks everyone is lying
Other anons verified the downclocking claims; it's true. I've even provided a link to the discussion.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106970047/#106976657

You're just in full cope mode because you're already bag holding a Radeon card.

>>107043840
hub downclocking the nvidia card is proven, I mean they even just straight up admitted and defended the decision on their podcast thing.

>>107043863
i'm not reading your schizorant, prove to me right here that they've actually downclocked them
you can't, it's all asspulls because you're vicariously living through nvidia

>>107043878
A different anon spent his own time watching the Hardware Unboxed 5070 Ti review and accepted that they downclocked a perfectly fine 5070 Ti that is boosting near 2800MHz out of the box, all the way down to 2450MHz.
These Radeon third-worlders can't even understand the test configurations of the hardware reviews they watch.

>>107043902
>source: a game of telephone
lol lmao

>>107043910
>Confirming other anons have verified the downclocking claims is "a game of telephone" for this seething moron.
Watch their fucking 5070 Ti review and their podcast, you coping faggot.
Be like that other anon and take the initiative.

You won't, because you don't want to listen to the truth.
That's why you end up bag holding buggy Radeon cards.

>>107043943
>do your work for me, an agent of nvidia and trust my hearsay
get fucked faggot

>>107043956
You got it the other way, you are my bitch. You do what I say.
Watch the video or stfu. Whether you watch the video or not doesn't change the reality.
You know RDNA3 cards are trash when even Hardware Downclocked Steve couldn't defend it.

>>107043969
>waste your time because a nvidia shill will have his feelings hurt if you don't
how about no

>>107043990
Your time is worth shit if you're treating Hardware Unboxed benchmark as your definitive source.
This is what Radeon bag holders do: they come up with different excuses to divorce themselves from reality.
Won't change the fact that they own a buggy chip that AMD can't fully fix, KEK.

>>107044010
you're spending your free time crying about benchmarks you don't like lmao
i hope you at least own stock with this attitude and aren't just replacing god with nvidia

>>107044024
>you're spending your free time crying about benchmarks you don't like lmao
Except that's exactly what you've been doing about the benchmarks YOU don't like.
Your opinion doesn't change reality; that's what matters.

>i hope you at least own stock with this attitude and aren't just replacing god with nvidia
Another line of Radeon cope.

>>107044035
you have like fifty posts in this thread and you've proven you chronically argue with people because you live through nvidia
get a fucking life lmao

>>107044042
I'm here to assblast Radeon copers like you, who post stale benchmarks published in Jan 2025 or cite rigged benchmarks to feel better about their purchases.
get a fucking life lmao

>>107044060
yes, you're here to be a chronic nvidia shill
thanks for acknowledging that

>me when I boughted radeon
>also me when it's a fact my card will age like milk

>>107044066
Says the Radeon bag holder who needs to shitpost old benchmarks to feel better about owning a 7900 XTX. Kek'd.
What you say matters fuck all about the reality.

>>107044093
get back to me once you shit out less than 50 posts a day shilling nvidia and then maybe anything you say might have value
you people don't live in the real world

>>107044159
Radeon shills are the ones chronically posting stale or rigged benchmarks to validate their purchases.
Don't be so upset that someone called you out on that bullshit.

>>107044179
your way of calling out is to waste hours digging through shit until you sunk cost fallacy yourself into shilling nvidia
regardless, i'll leave you with that,let's try to minimise the amount of rupees you get for your posts

>>107044195
Stop describing yourself. You're the one who's trying to analyze my behavior on your own time.
You're spending the same time replying to my posts on 4Chan.
Everyone knows you're full of shit when you resort to that rigged benchmark.
What you say about me matters fuck all.

Daniel Owen did over 100 benchmarks for 9070 XT VS 5070 Ti and found that nvidia had NO ADVANTAGE in most RT scenarios. They only have an advantage in full Pathtracing games which there are less than five and this is because the FSR Redstone driver and feature update entirely focused on improving PT performance and image quality has not released yet. It will soon though before the end of the year.

>>107044232
>update entirely focused on improving PT performance and image quality
Won't overcome the hardware limitations, that's why AMD announced new RT cores that'll be used in their future GPUs >>107043371
Redstone realistically has less than a month until release because companies slow down past Thanksgiving.

>>107034813 (OP)
i got the 9070xt for $600

>>107038321
>AI sloppa
no one cares

>>107044269
Good deal, happy for you.

>>107042562
...did I ever claim it's not?
"amd is last" isn't the same thing as "amd h265 is worse than sandy bridge h264", that's just an insane nonsensical claim
you've also conveniently ignored the fact that rdna 3 introduced significant encoder improvements, just like rdna 1/2/3 did.
you have no data to support your absurd claims that "amd's encoder is totally unusable" and "sandy bridge qsv is way better than rdna3/4 h265/av1", the reality is
amd's rdna 4 encoders are competitive with modern nvenc/qsv
rdna 1/2/3 aren't that much worse in 90% of real world scenarios
rdna 1/2/3 encoders are drastically superior to polaris/vega encoders and earlier, and those were still not as bad as you're making it out to be with your "it needs more than 50 mbps h265 to not be full of artifacts" bullshit
why are nvidiots like this? you could've just stopped at "amd has worse encoders" but instead decided to spew some truly moronic bullshit no one will ever believe with not a single data point in your favor.

>>107044332
>you've also conveniently ignored the fact that rdna 3 introduced significant encoder improvements
*rdna 4

>>107034851
>>107034876
The fuck are these benchmarks for? Games or video rendering or what? Literally why would you need such an expensive fucking GPU for those?
The only thing that matters is the CUDA performance, and the last time I checked, the one on the left doesn't have any of that.

>>107044352
The one with the basedjack is Arc Raiders

>>107044286
says the future ubi recipient

>>107044415
It’s a very quaint idea to think you’ll be given anything other than a ticket to oblivion.

>>107044377
It's also a fake Russian benchmark site that literally says they make up their data based on estimates. Nvidijeets straight up li to win posting misinformation graphs

>>107044502
what will the cope be when tpu or something tests it and the order of gpus more or less stays the same?

>>107034813 (OP)
The 9070 xt is $599 retard. I know because I walked into a store and bought one. The $100 savings makes it a better deal. If you have a shit market like a europoor then get fucked.

>>107044522
Well if you're going out to a physical store buying pc parts Walmart usually has Nvidia gpus on sale.

>>107044522
I also got my 9070xt for $599, it was even an OC model since Micro Center fucked up for that first day.

>>107035116
This is pathetic. $5 trying dollar company lmao
What a piece of shit.

>>107044618
there's a reason everyone that has ever made joint hardware with nvidia stopped doing that
they're not fucking helping anyone unless they get to have total control
i have to wonder about the interactions of jensen with the tech illiterate boomer nintendo execs though

>>107035116
>I just want Nvidia to not be greedy and evil
are you fucking retarded?

>>107044540
This was a month ago. Best you'll find is MSRP for green, maybe a whole $30 under for $720. It's just not the winning the Price/performance and I can't justify $150 for the same raster performance for 10% better ray tracing.

>>107042627
>>107042706
Nvidia shouldn't have a monopoly on workstation computing.

>>107045638
But they do

>>107044681
Nintendo just lets them do whatever as long as it is cheap and they dont have to bother.

>>107046983
Day 1 profit from hardware sales is what Nintendo prioritizes, you're right.

>>107044226
Uh oh hes mad lol

>>107048633
>Uh oh hes mad lol
Your being called out cunt either own up to it or shut the fuck up

I'm white and bought the 5070ti. Since I'm rich, I don't care about price differences. It works flawlessly, btw.

>>107044179
>Radeon shills
They don't even own the fucking hardware you spastic how fucking dead shit retarded are you and nvidia users are even worse because they have to cope with AI drivers and a company that is so big now that don't give a fuck about anybody or there customers at least AMD still slightly still gives a fuck and doesn't use AI for the drivers

>>107048774
>rich
>5070ti
brown hands typed this post

>>107048803
Post hand or your mother gets stabbed in her sleep tonight.

>>107048821
sure thing brownoid :)

I don't care how slightly better Nvidia shit is when AMD actually supports open source and doesn't price their shit in an anti-consumer manner.
Nvidia is a bloated B2B AI company now. The center of the bubble.

>>107048888
>shitty google image
You didn't even try, jeet.

>>107048917
>price their shit in an anti-consumer manner.
Is that not what amd is doing? Nvidia -$50, or in the case of the 5070/9070, Nvidia +$50
>>107049000
I don't even know what that means, I sit here wasting my time taking a picture of my hand and posting it and you're lashing out at me or something

>>107049025
>wasting my time googling a shitty white hand picture
Stay brown.