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>Interviewing
https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE

>How to write a resume
Nah.

>Salary Stuff
Nope.

>Newcomers to this thread
https://layoffs.fyi/

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>>107050364
>good opportunity for growth as a person
From my experience is that if you join the military it elevates your personality in so that if you are a good hard working person you hone in that skill to be better at it. If you are a shit bag then you learn how to be a bigger shit bag. If you are a good manager then once you make the rank you become a better manager.

Experience wise you learn alot more outside of your career to include management skills so you end up becoming a much more capable worker than what you normally see in the civilian world. You can emulate this as a civilian by learning alot of subjects, books, free training or bootcamps, college ect. But most people just focus on the one job that they have and specialize. That variety of experience is why a prior soldier would get picked up over a civilian not to mention just showing up on time is a virtue that the military harps about with consequences.

Cyber Warfare Operations is hard pick up the book for CEH, Sec+, Cloud+, Server+ and Network+. Also A+/Tech+ if you are lacking skills. You really need Sec+ but they give you that in the military btw. Pre learn all of those books and you will be fine for that crazy hard career field.

Military is like an office job if you include PT for 1 hour before work and another hour and 30 mins after work. You are just more busy throughout the day compared to most civilian jobs with random shit and the occasional training opportunity every 3 months that the bosses give out to the smart kids. I probably spent 6 months worth of time doing extra training during my 4 years.

You can no longer be fat in this economy.

>Go to a company for an interview
>It goes well, I'm sent a simple task as a test
>Do it
>They say that I did well, but they aren't hiring for that position at the moment
AAAAAHH I NEED A JOOOB

Move to Cambodia

>>107051128
>Move to a jobless rice paddy hell hole filled with mines
No

I've officially graduated from this thread, got a job offer... just gotta start packing shit because it is on the other side of the country.
Will miss you faggots, you guys helped me at my lowest.

>>107051220
See you again in 3 months anon.

A dude on LinkedIn messaged me about a job opening. The profile is a white boomer (ehh, I guess Gen X actually) but my jeet senses are tingling.

>>107051220
Do you want a referral bonus

>>107051232
Definitely sounds sus/like jeetglish

Give out a burner number at best

>>107050437
>>107050433 (OP)
shut up furfaggot

>>107050433 (OP)
>>107050437
speak up furgod

>furgoof nuked the op again because hes jealous of people with real jobs in Tech
end your life

>>107051647
>Posts anime woman
I am not a furfaggot.

>>107051748
KYS you unemployed furjeet

>>107051783
Not a furfag refer to last post. I also did not make this OP.
>>107050418

>got hired after showing my open source contributions

thanks for the entertainment boys, I'm outta here.
But seriously recruiters love it apparently so contribute if you have the time.

This doesn't mean you, Pajeet, don't add your name to the readme

>>107050433 (OP)
I was just thinking about Subways just now. Kinda hungry.

>>107051853
>But seriously recruiters love it apparently so contribute if you have the time.
Having my GitHub link in an application does near zero to the traffic on any of my repos.

>>107051853
thank you for betiful looks saar

I'm out of coffee....

>>107051783
I'm OP. Fuck you nigger.

finally talked to a human
made it to second round of interviews
gotta do a small project to prove im not retarded and/or lying
confident that if i can do it ill get some manner of position
can it truly be habbening bros?
its been so long since i had a glimmer of hope

>>107050433 (OP)
Had a screening interview today with a company. It's for a gambling site.
They asked me if I have any qualms about that. I wonder why they would even ask this question? If I did I wouldn't have applied for it.

>>107052121
You interviewing for SportsBet?

>>107052166
Kambi Group

>>107052113
I had an interview recently where they also wanted me to do a little project according to a spec in advance. I think it went OK but what I had not expected was that they then wanted me to discuss in detail how I would make all kinds of changes to it to support more features. So I had to improvise right on the spot. I don't know about your task but my advice is to prepare for what they might want you to change about it.

>>107052121
>We know that you have many options when considering the workplace for the next step in your career
Ok I laughed

TONIGHT I'm gonan do it. Totally goinan fuckin do it. I am gunna try ant SUCK my own COCK!!! I taste my own cum from jackan off but it is not satisfy enough. I need to feeel it shootan on my tongue. I will bee in extacee. I am so excite boys!

>>107052121
Gambling is insanely predatory, a lot of people are uncomfortable designing software that basically feeds into addictions. Same as working at a porn company or any other company that produces controversial shit.

>>107053192
I would be super fucking proud to work in the porno business. I don't know how I'd explain it to my wife though. Gambling? Fine I guess why not. I will not work for a company with politics I disagree with or especially for politicians I disagree with though.

>read threads from two years ago on some subreddit from a particular city about finding a software engineering job and every reply says how easy it is and how many open jobs there are
>read threads from the same subreddit from a few months ago and every post is saying it's impossible to find a job now and the job market is dead
It's like a switch flipped and the entire market just suddenly imploded in the span of a year or two. How did all of this happen so fast? And why doesn't the broader public care about the fact that America's last remaining prosperous industry is dead now? Is everyone just content with the fact that the future of America is everyone doing 3rd world tier labor for minimum wage and relying on government welfare to survive?

>>107050437
nobody on chan is joining the military.
tell your recruitment supervisor that you are wasting your time here.
the empire will need to look elsewhere for its cannon fodder.
also tell your recuritment supervisor who is probably a near-retirement boomer counting down the days that: sadly this country is destroyed and overrun with foreigners so what are these people legitametly supposed to think they are defending?

Imagine being fundamentally more powerful than every single human ever born before 1791 and probably like 75% of humans alive today. Now I just need a cute EE gf to make the transistors and dip the paper in the spicy water and mine the gold and stuff.

>>107053583
and yet not a single person alive today could have written, much less came up with, the constitution. smugness is a post-modern disease.

Maybe you guys aren't as smart as you think you are.

>>107053657
I'm definitely on the upper half of the gaussian distribution.

>>107053657
smarter than you muhammed.

solidgoldmagikarp is hiring.

I hate my job even though its wfh and I do fuck all all day every day

>>107053696
I made this thread for us >>107053882
a new general is born.

I'm looking through job listing on wellfound and why is every salary either >140k or <15k? Everyone either wants overpaid Americans or cheap 3rd world labor. Why not just hire Americans and pay them an average salary? You'll automatically eliminate all the liars, cheaters and sociopaths who are only in it for the money and you'll just have good hardworking white men who want to do honest work applying, meaning way less applications to sift through and a higher caliber talent pool. How are all these companies so dumb not to realize this?

>company just collapsed out of nowhere
Whaddup boiiiiiis I've been employed consistently for the last 13 years of my life, now I'm here with you guys!
>>107053883
It do feel tiring to work, I'm going to spend a few months working on me, sounds like tech is collapsing all over so I'll have to catch the next wave of hiring.

>>107053993
>collapsed out of nowhere
surely there were signs

You see blondes, brunettes, juicy steak, I see xor, nand, nor.

>>107053993
How much do you have saved?

>>107053962
It's usually smaller companies wanting experienced guys who can do everything.
or dirt cheap slave labor. Rarely I see associate or junior positions. And of course, once you go through the entire list...it is one of the slowest websites to update with new positions. I just don't see anything new anymore.

>>107054008
I've got a few months of runway without liquidating any investments, longer if I start selling stuff I meant to sell forever ago. I have so many projects to work on in home repair and some tech stuff that I'll be busy until next year. I figure as long as I get a job next year and go back to filling up a 401k then I can fuck off for a few months.

>>107053999
Yeah it was a crypto startup it was doomed from the start, but they paid me very well so I'm fine with it. I'll go down with any ship.

>>107054073
damn. was all 13 years of your experience there?

>>107054034
It was the best place to find jobs back when it was still called angellist. It took a week max from applying to being hired, and I got multiple jobs this way in the 2010s. That entire startup scene just seems dead now that the fed made borrowing so expensive. I wonder if it that kind of hiring will ever come back again once rates go back down or if it was just a once in a lifetime thing.

>>107053993
spread the word >>107053882

>>107054099
they have one of the better UI's across about every site I've used, that's for sure.

>>107054080
Naw, I worked for a mid sized consulting firm for a decade before this last place going to random customers in a bunch of industries, mostly Fortune 500 and .gov type places. Boring but effective. I jumped off that ship for a much higher salary and more chill work environment to the startup, and I can say it was the most fun I've had at work. I will probably shoot for another high pay high performance small company next time around. I was spoiled with not having to touch Windows VPN AD corpo shit these last few years and I don't wanna go back to that.

Tbh I'd rather work insanely hard half the year and then not touch a computer the other half. I should figure out how to hound down contracts and do independent consulting stints.

>>107050433 (OP)
Just completed a 3 month internship and built really hardcore components that the handlers said even intermediates/(onions)seniors couldn't do.


But the big boss man said they were 'restructuring' and thus couldn't hire new people yet. "Come back in 3 months"

What the fuck is up with big corpos? Why wont they seize the opportunity when seeing someone with potential? This is insanity

>>107054123
>hey uh we wanted to promote you this year but there's a payfreeze going on and a promotion means a guaranteed raise so we couldn't do it this year
>was only making $81k, it's not like the raise would've been more than 5% which is fucking pennies
so stupid. Or at least just promote me and handle the raise later so at least I have a better title.

Daily it’s over post

>>107051076
Why the fuck did they make you go through that charade then? Man, we don't hate HR enough.

It's been almost two years since I lost my last IT job, been applying all that time and got a few interviews but the one offer was for a printer technician job that I hate. Is it time to kms?

>>107054423
time to become a gangster.

>>107053883
Give it to me then

>>107054414
It's wasn't HR, I talked to the guy who would be training me if I got hires and the woman who is responsible for working with clients. It's a small firm, I don't think they have a defined HR department.

>>107054464
y tf are they interviewing? Are they looking for exceptional we gotta hire now!!!!! candidates.

>>107054004
>>107053583
this has nothing to do with tech

you are not even a programmer you do not even have TS SCI

leave

hate hate hate these forms

>>107054519
It was a bit of a funny story. I actually when for an interview for a customer interaction position (I was just trying everything), but that woman recommended that I try for another position since I stutter. She then called the guy over and we talked about what I would be doing, and he agreed to make a test task for me. I guess there wasn't actually an open position there and it was all a misunderstanding.

>>107054586
Simplify copilot
I have to admit the paid features were pretty nice

>>107054618
ahhh well that's a shame then.

>>107054586
>white
ngmi

>>107054632
I am always tempted to send a few out with the name Monique Johnson or some shit and see if my hit rate increases.

>>107054527
Witness the birth of a new God.

>>107054586
Just say you're hispanic, do they even check?

>>107054644
GET ON MY LEVEL

>>107054656
I'm married to one, doesn't that count? unfortunately my name is very german sounding.

>>107054623
this might be a game changer.
now my hitrate / app can reach it's true value (0.0000000001)

>>107054632
Shut the fuck up, I'm native born paki and unemployed.

>>107054711
Shut the fuck up with your fake race privilege notions.

>>107054719
Just say you're Indian bro.

>>107054729
it's not fake. not in this country. women and minorities get a leg up at mega corporations.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.1418878112
This is academia, it's the same in industry. Be barely competent and dark skinned or a woman and you get an easy shot. maybe you're just too retarded even for minority quotas to get you in the door?

>>107050433 (OP)
nice OP

>>107054689
Hmm yes, very nice hangomar gates, which put the qubits in a state of superposition, X gates which function as not gates and bloch spheres that probably represent the wave function or something exalted brother.

>>107054711
You better already be a mutt because race mixers burn in hell for eternity.

How is it possible that a job posting gets 50 applicants in less than an hour of being posted? Bots?

>>107054896
>bots
Worse.
Jeets

Will moving to Colorado or Alabama improve my chances of finding a job?

>>107054776
Not since DEI died early this year.
You're delusional. Unemployment among nonwhite tech workers is higher.

>>107054989
>Huntsville
probably all government jobs working for Nasa and Nasa contractors, right?

.

>>107054896

powerful programmers build their own monitoring systems via scraping or apis and they dispatch their resumés quickly.

>>107054870
buddy you're just namedropping random concepts that are adjacent to quantum computing.
You remind me of this kid I used to bully for constantly spewing bullshit about his "theories" of black holes. dumbass was so high on his own supply, he contacted multiple universities trying to convince them that his theory (which was just hand waving bullshit about black holes being teleporters) was something worth publishing.
Modern physics is wayyy too mature for some layman to make any meaningful contribution, and your shit isn't even up to par with what undergrads already learn. Get tf outta here.

>>107048262
>be worried about the system design interview
>study all night
>it goes very well, and was able to respond to all the questions

>but didn't brush up jeetcode
>fumble the jeetcode interview
>interviewer doesn't even try to hide that I obviously failed

IT'S OVER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>started interview
>not even 3 minutes in her face freezes
>I get desperate thinking the problem was on my end
>it wasn't
>try joining and leaving the Meet room, nothing
>send her an email asking what happened
>no reply
It's been 50 minutes...
why do I feel like she'll blame me...

>>107055950
I don't have to make contributions I just have to learn how to make neat gadgets that people will pay me money for.

>>107056091
fuckin jeetcode...
>>107056094
she got the ick.

>>107056094
>her
It's ogre

>>107056094
She probably lost the connection to the internet

>>107056098
>>107056126
it's fucking OVER
>>107056138
But to not even send me an email from her phone or something? It's been almost an hour.

>>107056144
I think employers generally don't give flying fuck about the people applying for jobs and won't bother anymore at the slightest inconvenience. So just move on.

>>107056144
>>107056094
She sent an email an hour later apologizing profusely and asking if I could hop back onto the call.
Everything went well bros!!!!
It was only the first interview, but still!

>>107056144
Just move on, these people don't care anymore

>>107054989
If you can get a security clearance or pass a government background check, then Huntsville can afford you a comfy life.

Interviewed at a company that I looked up on Glassdoor before. Someone mentioned that the company sucks and there was high turnover.

Figured it was overblown but then in the technical interview the guy mentioned he'd only been there for three months. Surely he's not even off probation yet.

>>107056841
If you ever hop jobs, negotiate the removal of the probation period from the contract. Probation is like begging to have your back stabbed. Also ask for 3 months of severance in the contract even if you get fired within 2 months so they think twice about treating you like trash.

>>107056830
Looked into that, but I'm an autistic loner who never talks to anyone and they need people to be able to vouch for you in order to give you a security clearance. I've also burned all my bridges with past employers so can't use them as references either.

>>107056866
Generally everyone he gets 4–6 months of probation and generally people don't get thrown out in that time. Companies generally suck at recruiting and don't wanna keep doing it again and again.

>>107050437
I appreciate the advice anon. I do think I'm a hard worker, just temporarily demoralized due to working a dead end teaching job that I hate. Once I get something that can actually advance my career I'm raring to go.

Regardless this seems like my best bet and I suspect people will be desperately trying to get these military tech roles as more job cuts happen and less entry level positions are available to new grads.

I view this as a safe option so that I can wait out the market for 4 years without becoming unhireable and see how things look in 2030. If the job market is completely decimated in 2030 then I'll do my full 20 if that's still possible.

I've heard some tech jobs in the military don't do shit. I've talked to some Space Force cyber guys in particular and they say their job is literally just staring at a computer screen and waiting for an alert to pop up. People read books and play MTG while waiting. Seems like a waste of 4 years though.

I think I'm about to lose out on a job because I'm too old. Why else would they call and ask my birth date today?

Alright but is this better than how the nerds do it?

>We regret to inform you that you do not meet the basic posted requirements for this position and therefore have not been selected to move forward in the application process.

For some reason this one really makes me fumin'. I check all the boxes for their "What Makes You Stand Out" qualifications and their Required qualifications. What the fuck. Only 50 people have applied to it. What the fuck are they looking for that I didn't have? It's entry-level.
So stupid.

>>107057018
This is because they just HIDE behind bullshit excuses like that. There's another justification that they won't reveal.

>>107057186
jobs I know I'm only partially qualified for with 1000s of applicants, ok, I get it but this one.
Fucking faggots.

Is this a real website?

>https://work.mercor.com/

I keep getting pinged on linkedin

>>107057351
>355 hired in india
Just pirating you job saar.

I haven't applied to any job in almost a week.

I wanted to say 'bye' but I said 'kisses' instead to the girl in the end of the interview.

>>107050433 (OP)
>Finally landed an interview.
>It's with an AI.
>I'm now using AI to train me to pass the AI interview.
At what point did you realize AI has already taken over and using us as its dancing monkeys?

>>107058001
bitch thinks you're fruity lmao

>>107058001
KEK holy shit hahahaha

>>107058021
Mercor?

>>107058001
closet homo

Just paid 200 bucks for a course by course evaluation of my europoor degree so I can get into a united statian online MBA.
Hopefully I can transfer electives so I don't have to pay too much for the degree.
After this I will finally land a 100k job (again) right?

>>107058001
who tf says kisses?

>>107058245
bro...

Would have been cool to mess around with a clock and latches/flip-flops (they're the same thing? Or one is memory the other flip flops?) but this should be enough for me to go into engine dev threads and call them retards right? Also what object in your house would benefit from being smart do you think and you'd pay 50-100 dollars for a smart version for?

>>107058283
some girls do

>>107058289
When in doubt just go back to school, that's what the boomers standing behind me at the unemployment office told me. They said they resigned and went back to school for some degree and then they graduated at the same time as I got fired so we're in the same boat (hehe exactly the same). Except they have millions and I don't and they also have grandkids.
Boomers are so optimistic that they resign to up skill and think the gap in the resume won't hurt them.

<200 roles in my city this week. i live in tech hub city

>>107058464
Chennai?

All these fucking Mercor postings are fucking me up. I'm going to end up doing their obvious scam AI interview bullshit because I'm so desperate. What if it's NOT a scam and all the jeets are taking advantage of it?

>>107058464
Toronto?

>>107057351
>>107058200
>>107058545
Mercor the company is legit, you can search around for news that they got 100m investment or something. But yeah the fact that most of the "hired" "people" are from India makes me smell the poo.

>>107058557
Like man...
it feels like I'm either going to lose on the easiest money of my life or just waste time...

>>107058245
>online MBA
Do they actually care?

>>107058612
Management consultants got jobs right out of college and didn't have to deal with layoffs. I think they'll care. These traditional business careers are looking up. Engineering is looking down.

>>107058612
Management consultants got jobs right out of college and didn't have to deal with layoffs. So business might be the way to go.

>>107058597
The indian told me to apply within 24 hours.
Did you do it?

i have a job but i hate it, not getting luck applying for others.
is this my general or do i go to the employed one?

>>107058964
gtfo normalfag

>>107058964
You are on the council of /utwg/
but we do not grant you the rank of unemployed

>>107058964
I was like you, I used to hate my job.
Then I got fired and realized what suffering is.
That 80k a year with no yearly raises or anything was a privilege.

>>107058632
I think I'm gonna do it, I'm desperate enough

>>107058964
being unemployed is so much worse dude

How will you compete with indian ai cyborgs so you are employable again?
Will you get neuralink and become enslaved cattle?

I have back pain. I will start answering "yes" to the disability question. fite me.

>>107058473
>>107058556
American city. Not in ny or california

>>107059338
minneapolis-st. paul innit

>>107053475
Doesn't mcdonalds pay like $25/hr now

>>107058620
>Management consultants got jobs right out of college and didn't have to deal with layoffs. I think they'll care. These traditional business careers are looking up. Engineering is looking down.
I think there's a reason (parents of) students at top schools usher them into MBB consulting, high finance, or family-network roles over

Going the big tech FAANG engineer route from a top USA university is highly profitable and even fairly common, but I wouldn't say it is the dominant campus "aspiring professional" culture at these institutions

Engineering can leave you alone laid off for some offshoring reasons. it's not aristocratic in that nature.

>>107056091
What was the jeet question

>>107059376
yeah, same price as a combo

>>107056870
Lol i had to scrounge for people for the social references section. Had to put one of my mom's friends.

>>107059376
my last system admin job paid 24 an hour.. in NC where min wage is 7.25 so idk

>>107059098
I had a remote job so my life has barely changed.

>>107059482
true my last job was remote as well but i do miss those sweet paychecks..I dont leave the house anyway but yeah

I fucked up a jeetcode test because I completely forgot how to do a quicksort
I wanna kill myself

I would be so much more productive on my home computer. Shit would just compile.
My work laptop has 8gb ram, it runs out all the time
I wonder if I just took the hard drive out of my laptop, maybe it would work

>>107060063
>I fucked up a jeetcode test because I completely forgot how to do a quicksort
I haven't implemented Quicksort in over 5 years. I barely remember what it is. Who gives a shit?

>>107060067
Who cares? Clearly not your employer. Read comics while you wait.

Theory: all these "I do nothing and get paid six figures" posts were made by CEOs to make people flood into computer science so they can have cheap workforce

got rejected from another entry level tech job even though i have multiple years of experience

>>107050433 (OP)
Alright let's discuss the topic of lying on your CV for self-taught neets who are actually good but get filtered by the cursed wHoRe-cruiter.

Strictly talking about the accreditations here and not necessarily my experience, that would also account for wtf I've been up to the past 3-4 years of neeting kek.
I'll buy the fake CS diploma from some reputable vendor (any recommendations?), or perhaps I don't even need that? Has it ever happened that some fucking recunigger asked you for your diploma? I'll learn the basics about whatever (out of country) uni I'll attend and conjure up a story.
How does that sound?

I live in jewrope where the market isn't as bad as in the US but it's arguably still cucked. So my chances aren't too bad

>>107060879
>Has it ever happened that some fucking recunigger asked you for your diploma?
As someone with an actua B.Eng, no. I've never had to prove to someone that the degree in my CV is real. Obviously it has a real school's name and my thesis work on there, so they could call and ask, but I doubt that anyone's doing that.

>>107060748
Why are you applying to those? Of course they're not going to hire somebody with multiple years of experience, that's likely not who they're looking for.

I don't understand what is going on in this job market. I got a decent resume and portfolio according to the people who have looked over them. My previous employers have always been fairly happy with me, typically saying I do good work and am open to feedback and growth if a bit introverted, yet it's taking me so long to find a job that the government is sending a job coach my way because I've been trying by myself for the past months and failing. I don't send out an application to everything that I see online, I only apply to jobs that I think would be a good fit for me with a personalized cover letter and slightly tweaked resume. I even tell the company in my letter why I specifically applied to them to show I'm not some idiot sending applications to any place I see online with a generic AI-written letter. It doesn't matter, in the past 5 months I've only gotten two interviews and no offers. I don't even know if anyone reads anything, seeing as I've had online/phone chats where they just asked me to repeat what I put in my cover letter. Why do you even want to chat to "get to know me" before the interview?

It never took me this long to find a job, even in the beginning of my career, and I refuse to lower my low standards any further. I used to accept unpaid positions or minimum wage positions because I figured it'd at least beat doing nothing, but now that I actually got the experience nobody will take a chance on me even though I've proven I got a broad skill set and can pick up almost anything you ask of me if you just look at my resume. And again, nobody can tell me what I'm doing wrong. Companies never answer my follow-up questions and nobody I've asked, including a few experienced professionals in the industry, can tell me what's wrong. I think if I pass the one year anniversary of unemployment I'm just gonna find a job stocking shelves because I feel like a complete failure when I'm unable to even find a simple job maintaining old WordPress websites.

>>107054618
Why would you apply for a job where you have to interact if you stutter
t. stutter too
I'm an accountant and it's enough for me, I get occasional call from customer but they're short as I redirect them to my colleague who work on this shit

>>107061203
I was just trying for any tech job.

>>107061222
Ah got it
Hoping you'll finally find one anon, I'm personally lucky enough to have found a job as accountant where I'm doing nothing 80% of the time and I have to pretend I'm working when my manager passes by

>Can't post images
fuck

>>107060956
They listed it as an entry level job preferably looking for people with years of experience

>>107060028
this happened to me, but I persisted and they gave me Sundays off

are you guys going trick or treating

I got a job offer with an acceptable salary but the interview process was really fast and I have bad vibes about the company, so I don't know what to do.

>>107061695
>bad vibes
that's just you being afraid of having to work.

>>107061695
look em up online, check out their online rep among customers and former employees

>>107061708
It's more than that. I basically only had a single interview and the interviewer had only been at the company for a couple of months.

>>107061709
Glassdoor reviews were not great and mentioned bad management and high turnover. Customers are public sector as far as I can tell, so probably not many customer testimonials to be found.

>>107061738
>Glassdoor reviews were not great and mentioned bad management and high turnover
If the interview process was that fast then that's not promising, no.

I got a job working for Best Buy product support outsourcing, yes I live in the third world and I probably just took a job that would have gone to an American worker.

>>107061747
The interview process was a five-minute phone call to confirm if I was still interested, like 50–60 minutes of technical "interview" that didn't really even feel like an interview and then a job offer.

>>107061297
>They listed it as an entry level job preferably looking for people with years of experience
>entry level
>years of experience
That's obviously not what entry level is. Don't work for people who are blatantly trying to exploit you.

>>107056924
this glows. military service lasts a lifetime if you get your legs blown off during that 4 years. then the military thanks you for your service as it hands you a medical separation form. again, who are they defending the country from? go secure the border otherwise what's the point?

>>107058294
alarm clock. it should be smart enough to know I'm still in bed and accidently turned it off.

>>107061141
>I used to accept unpaid positions
There you go. Now you can do that again!

>>107062257
With eight years of experience? Yeah nah.

wake me up when the geek uprising starts.
I'm going to power shoryuken the cloud into the fucking stratosphere in some totally legal and lawful manner as soon as I figure out the way to do it without committing a crime.
/gug/

Going to university route in Canada (cheap tuition compared to US so why not) and choosing co-op programs to segue eventually into full tech employment.

I'm 30+ and haven't done much so only recently turned my life around. High school grade average is not an issue for me but area I'm concerned about are ECs (extracurricular activities) and these are apparently quite important.

Any tips on how to approach this as an older guy? Is there anything I can do?

>>107062529
>Is there anything I can do?
Give up.

Nothing morning of vaping at my computer while playing CK3
Tomorrow I get up at 5am to fly to Japan for a holiday
Imagine working when you can get NEETBUX

>>107062529
Do unpaid work at places of interest in a legal and lawful way.

Well lads there's a chance I'm gonna join you soon.
I had to travel for a conference this week. I hate those conferences to be honest, so I decided to at least enjoy myself this time.
Long story short, I was going back to the hotel, when I came across the CEO. He was pretty hammered, and I hope he doesn't remember a thing.
I hope he doesn't remember I was noticeably high.
I also hope he doesn't remember I was brining a hooker to the hotel.
And I really, really hope he doesn't remember the hooker was a tranny.

>>107062825
A gap in the cv is bad so get yourself some unpaid internships to do as you get fired.

>>107062825
That kind of degeneracy gets you into the C-Suite, congratulations man.

>>107062849
yes and an MBA.

>Sorryyyy we went with another candidate! Good luck with your search!
>5 minutes later they reup the job posting on Linkedin
????????????????????? what the fuck

>>107060879
>>107060925
In the US, they can just look it up on the National Student Clearinghouse. For $20 you can check what degree someone has and the year they graduated, so there's no way to lie about it.
>https://www.studentclearinghouse.org/verify/

>>107062913
They just didn't have opportunities for your caliber.

Is overqualification so bad that they reject you from Walmart?
Like no you used to be a big shot so we're not gonna let you make any money stacking shelves, you should die starving.

Uhhh chipotle is saying there not enough low-mid income customers anymore…

Will they fix this issue so kids can afford burritos?

>>107060879
>that pic
How do companies justify paying thousands of dollars for getting literally nothing in return? I will never understand this.

>>107062913
Just apply again, it's a new position.

>>107062944
Is that Clarence "uncle" Thomas in the back?

>>107062935
If my only remaining choice was working at Walmart, I would unironically kill myself.

>>107062944
>burritos?
You want to make foreign food at minimum wage? At least make america food like hotdogs, burgers and fries.

>>107054711
>my name is very german sounding
So is mine but i still say im hispanic and that is unironically the reason why i got employed right before covid hit. All of 2019 i was unemployed and the same company rejected my application 5 times and would keep reposting it. 2020 rolls around i decided to start saying i was hispanic and for this exact same company and the exact position they kept rejected me, suddenly im hired without even an interview and told to come in for work on Monday. The gig lasted almost 5 years when mass layoffs occured and they through money at me to save face

Really makes you think

>no work experience in title
>do you have work experience?
fucking

>>107063168
I think they do it to check if you are who you say you are.

>>107060925
>As someone with an actua B.Eng, no. I've never had to prove to someone that the degree in my CV is real. Obviously it has a real school's name and my thesis work on there, so they could call and ask, but I doubt that anyone's doing that.

Hmm I see, so for even a Bachelor I need to link a thesis? I have a fairly common name for the place where I live but fuck can't pick a eastern european uni then zz...

Anything else I ought to think about before lying about this on my CV?

>>107062970
kanye?

I had to put in control unit now it's a real cpu with a clock I made no flip flops though.

It seems companies are only interested in hiring people who most recently worked with their tech stack.
For this reason you basically cement your career from the beginning.
How do you deal with that?

>>107063756
Beer.

>>107062944
Trump's hair

> do internship for two years
> Competing with a person that has ten years experience for an entry it-support job
> In Germany

So I am gonna finish my vocational training as a Systemintegration nword by January.

I speak English, Turkish, German, some Spanish (learning).

I should just take welfare and call it a day, but I need to look for a way to make enough work experience and money to buy breathing room until I learn enough mainframe administration or something else, that I can work remotely at.
I really hate the current market.

What else can I do? Are there sectors I should look into? Or job positions that don't overrun due to specialization or it not being an overrun and known position that utilizes what I know?

>>107063005
wow. Maybe I should, fuck it.
also: linkedin premium sucks. not worth money. I accepted the free trial, dogshit.

>>107062944
Just charge $30 a burrito. Normies will always buy slop no matter how much it costs.

>small company local to me posted job
>applied, I have special experience in the industry they work in but I would be entry-level in software engineering / tech
>they close it like a day later and repost it
What the fuck. I was tempted to apply again but I decided to read some Glassdoor reviews and apparently it's family owned, nepotism everywhere, and the CEO is bipolar so now I'm having even more second thoughts. I'm desperate but not a 3.0/5.0 star rating on glassdoor desperate. I guess. But fuck me, it would be remote.

>>107060956
The whole meaning of "entry level" has changed today and they usually want people with multiple years of experience for those positions now. Otherwise many of us would already have jobs and not be stuck here.

>>107064270
You can technically get a couple years of experience during school. Back when I applied for my first job, I had been doing similar kind of programming back in school, part of my mandatory work experience thing and as part of my thesis. Made it a lot easier to apply.

>>107064080
Welcome to the ride

>>107064080
>I'm desperate but not a 3.0/5.0 star rating on glassdoor desperate.
I'm thinking of accepting a job at a 2.8/5.0 on Monday.

>>107064347
Well, check to see if the reviews from swe's are unhappy at least. This place seemed to be the kind where you need to be chummy with the boss who is a BPD lady or else you're going to get shitcanned eventually.

>>107064360
There weren't really that many reviews to begin with. Although one common complaint was shit salaries but the offer I got was at least decent.

>>107063756
Elite companies don't care about that, they just want smart people. Shit-tier companies care because they need strong assurance that the shitty people they hire can actually do the work.

>>107063756
You can learn tech stacks on your free time.

>>107064080
>>107064347
I accepted long ago that every job is shit and everyone from management is retarded.
Just do the bare minimum.

>>107064413
>trying to divide time between job hunting, leet code, and learning stacks
being unemployed is truly a struggle

>>107062553
How much do you get?

>>107062974
No, you wouldn't.

>>107064602
I absolutely would. Just walking into a Walmart as a customer and seeing how much of a 3rd would country America has become gives me suicidal thoughts. Being in a place that reminds me of how fucked western civilization is for 8 hours a day would unironically drive me to suicide.

desu apparently I still have not added the control unit

>>107061695
Hey, at least you got an offer while I'm struggling to get past interviews.

>>107064413
But you'll always get trumped by a person with experience

>>107064746
Yeah, it's a shit market. Was thinking of accepting the job even though there's some red flags. I can always quit or look for another job later.

Good enough! Just 20 more classes to go and I'm in the money! Next class up is software engineering.

I finally got an email asking for an interview from something I applied to on jobs.now back in August.
I actually accepted another position already but I just wanted to share that it's apparently actually possible to get hired by applying to the listings there.

>>107063645
This is mechanical engineering?

>>107065201
Those are the elves in your computer, it's just if elses allll the way down.

Breaking: Amazon has reportedly canceled its Foreskins with Negritude MMO.
Ouch, looks like we're in for some more company boys

>>107061384
I might go boozin' and sloppin' later. Kids beware!

>wake up, eat some food
>feel good about my life even though everything is crumbling apart
>spend a few hours playing video games, browsing the internet, doing some shit around the house
>oops 14 hours have gone by, now i'm too tired to apply for jobs
>anxiety starts setting in and I can't sleep and I wasted the entire day
>fall asleep after laying in bed for 3 hours
>repeat

>>107065761
Tell yourself you're just going to job search for 20 minutes and then play video games.

>>107065761
Just browse LinkedIn while on the toilet.

>started cloud computing class
>its all bullshit I dont enjoy
do I need to extensively learn this for cybersec meme degree or can I get away with just doing enough work to pass

>>107050433 (OP)
Been a neet for a decade, just graduated with a CS degree from a shit school, no internships or anything. Friend offered me a job as a field engineer at a power company. Shit's like 80hr work weeks, on call 24/7, barely ever home, but pays mad fucking money. Should I just give up on tech and do it? Alternative is becoming a glownigger and working for one of the many defense contractors near me (assuming I can actually get employed by one of them) or angling for a fed job doing roughly the same thing at the local glownigger military base. Or joining the military itself, I guess.

>>107066595
travel sucks. sucks worse when you have a wife and start a family.
I'd say do it for a few years, save your money and invest well and then try to transition to literally anything else.
After you apply to a few places and try to get ANYTHING in tech...

I wanna die
hey there /utwg/ hows it
I wanna fucking die
going? It's Friday I really hope that was a good week for you! Now use this weekend to train up on leetcode problems!
I wanna die so much

>>107066727
I also want to die.

>>107051135
All countries are jobless now. It's just a question of how happy you are and how far you can stretch your savings. If you don't own land or have someone to stay with you should absolutely flee the US.

>>107053192
>Gambling is insanely predatory
Everything is these days. Unless you're working for fucking autodesk you're probably building something addictive and value extracting that's effectively designed to destroy people's lives en mass.

>>107066727
>I wanna die
robomaids are right around the corner, anon. hang on a little longer.

>>107066819
how the fuck will I buy one without any money????

>>107066819
Why the fuck would you want that?

>>107066727
You don't want to die, you just hate your flesh. That's how it is when you tend to the machines.

>>107066727
I don't know where I'm going but I'm going trick or treating

>>107066865
I want a robomaid to make me tea and spank me.

>>107067121
This should like two RC servos and a single paristolic pump. Why do you need an Android?

>>107050433 (OP)
Somebody on the previous /utwg/ thread was talking about planning to graduate with a EE major in 2029.
I cautioned against it, and was being genuine.
anon accused me of a bunch of shit, told me he was a 25 year old man implying that he wasn't a snot-nosed greenhorn...
Now... Look at this shit >>107065221

>>107066595
a true field engineer will always need to do some programming.
take the job, count yourself lucky, sounds like you were totally fucked and don't have the perspective to realize it.
take.
the job.
and if you don't believe me, keep looking for a programming job while working this new job. In about 3 years you might get a job offer to be a QA.

>>107067165
You will be employed ~20-30% of your 20s. Don't bother thinking about a "career" as those don't exist anymore. Move into your car and invest the money into the stock market, find super cheap land if you can, and then when the layoffs start build a business yourself.

Everything else is bullshit now.

>>107066543
WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN?
you will not get a job in this industry no matter what you do unless you already have 10 years of experience and a CS degree and even then you will not get a job in this industry for quite a long time.

>no degree
>4 yoe
>moving onto my 6th month applying for jobs
november is when I'll get a job, I can feel it

>>107067247
>THE worst month to get hired is when I'll get a job
bro...

>>107067247
bro every business is trying to gear down for holiday shutdowns. realistically it will be in january or february once things open up/some of the workforce have killed themselves over xxxmas break

>>107067360
This summer people told me that everyone is on summer holiday so jobs will pop up afterwards. That was wrong advice, I should have gone all in this summer, would have gotten something by now before more unemployed people join the unemployed cohort.

>>107066727
>Now use this weekend to train up on leetcode problems!
Absolutely not.

>>107067360
I've had the opposite observations.

One company was trying to hire a contractor quickly because they had some shit due for Q4 and needed someone in a hurry. Also got two calls from companies today. One from a talent pool with a possible suitable job, another one from a company I interviewed at.

October–November seems fairly suitable for job hunting. I expect December to be dead as shit though.

hahahahahaha kill me

>>107067739
Lowest unemployment rate in decades etc blah blah blah

>>107067770
>believing the senile Israel cocksucker retard's numbers

>>107067501
Most companies literally don't care at all if you have experience or if you're the best person for the job. They just want you to solve 4 leetcode mediums in an hour and nothing else moves the needle at all.

something nice will happen this weekend

I posted in an earlier thread that I smoked 2.5 days before my drug test
Results came back negative. Prohibition jews BTFOd

> went to the asian massage parlor instead of buying a course for a certification
>-$180
> bought 4chan pass instead of buying exam for cert
>-$60
how do i stop useless buys?

Finally, I will stop being a NEET!! I got a tech support job in a small company. I feel happy and motivated. Life is not over :) I'm 30 btw

>>107068278
I paid 200 bucks yesterday to get degree evaluated by americans. I got the result today that it's equivalent to american degree, now I can apply for jobs in the united states if I want to but I won't because I have to use it for something else.
Meanwhile you paid for a happy ending. Maybe your deal was better.

>>107068299
>american degree
at least you got some degrees now, HR will at least look at your resume now

>>107053192
I'll have no problem building gambling software that feeds on addicts, I don't give a shit about them. I do however have a line I refuse to cross and that's rigging the software. Fuck that. House already has the edge and don't need the scales tipped further.
I would have to give up what little goodness I think I still have to do it, and I don't know if it would be worth it.

year 23 of denying that im going to die an unemployed broke incel

>>107053475
>Is everyone just content with the fact that the future of America is everyone doing 3rd world tier labor for minimum wage and relying on government welfare to survive?
ummm... thats a good thing? like are you literally insane? we're going to have walkable cities, affordable housing, and best of all is second gen africans running government. the future is so bright. the places they come from are jsut so good thankfully they replaced literally 35% of the entire population with them. have you ever seen the cowloon walled city? its so cyberpunk and epic. things are goign to be cool.

>>107062921
some of the people in these threads are just as dumb as indians. they think theyre the first guy to ever think of lying like the industry isnt built around vetting liars nonstop. jesus christ.
they can even buy a copy of your social media history from lexisnexis.

>>107053475
Back in 2004 anyone who did a two coding bootcamp would get into a tech company and get free massages, gourmet chefs making food at the cafeterias, and sleeping pods at the offices included along with a 60k salary (120k today).
In 2012 anyone who could code a mobile app would get rich. Flappy bird making 50k per day for the dev.
Things have only gotten worse.

And unlike doctors our careers are unprotected. We don't have licenses to tend to the machine so our field can be devalued by the endless people who got inspired by the past 30 years and decided that computer science leads to wealth. Anyone who studied computer science or computer engineering has 7% unemployment. Meanwhile journalism and other bullshit degrees are at 3% unemployment.
I hope the next step is government licenses otherwise we are finished.

>>107068548
Unemployment statistics are misleading because you're still counted as "employed" with your journalism degree if you work at Walmart. Higher unemployment in CS and CE show that jobs are scarce and also that CS and CE grads refuse to take unrelated jobs.

This is the consequence of following your dreams in a free society instead of having a caste system where you know your role.

>>107068525
>they can even buy a copy of your social media history from lexisnexis.
Nobody does this.

>>107068972
At least nobody does this to vet employees at an SMB. You think every company does a full-on CSI investigation, rocking up to your house and start analyzing the hair in your shower drain and the semen on your curtains. All you need to do is look at the absolute state of this industry, and then realize that clearly people who have been blatantly lying this entire time have only not been expelled, but have been consistently thriving.

6 applications a day
365 days a year
that's 2190 applications
surely you can manage 6 applications a day, can't you?

>>107069017
Depends on the type of application.
Linkedin quick apply can be applied to maybe 100 times per day or more.

I'm starting to play the lotto weekly, keeps me hopeful I can get out of this hell.

>email 30 minutes ago
>your bank account is negative
lmao

>email 30 minutes ago
>STOP FIRING ROCKETS AT MY HOUSE
lmao

>>107069232
goymaxxing

>>107069375
jewmaxxing

testing moves from tekken on software "engineers" irl (i am a victor main)

>>107069227
A tax on the poor and stupid.

>>107050437
I'm 35, anon. I am going to stick out like a sore thumb in there.

>>107069227
The lottery is a tax on math illiteracy.

>>107048262
Just use hashmaps and queues.

>system has to be high throughput
It works by passing messages with queues

>system needs to translate something to something else
Put it in a hashmap (or a key-value store like redis)

>>107048262
>system has to scale to thousands or millions of users
make the backend stateless and run it in multiple servers in parallel, scaling up or down as needed, use load balancing, both at the DNS level (L6) and the HTTP level (L7)

>system has to be resilient
Deploy to multiple cloud zones, multiple AZs per zone, and multiple clouds if possible. A hybrid onprem/cloud approach is also good

>>107054711
Zimmerman and Rittenhouse either, yet here we are, mesero.

>>107063993
Hallo Herr Özgür.

should i work for an MSP? They seem to be hiring... some kind of "sysadmin" type thing.

I had a dream a few weeks ago where I won the lottery. I woke up feeling like a fucking loser for even dreaming of myself playing the lottery.

>>107070817
>should i work
yes

Just reporting in that i very likely found a job
Its a comfy wfh job
Its possible, i think the market is recovering
You just need to brush up your CV, gotta have a thing or two on your CV that really stands out

>>107070866
>the market is recovering
>he says the week after all the top companies announce like 50k layoffs

>>107070638
Salami und Alkohol, mein Bruder.

Oder bist du einer diese Almans oder Verfechter des Zutts, die den Stiefel ihres Meisters tief und hart in den Rachen rammt und zum Mundwaschen Dünnschiss vom importierten Haustier des Meisters gurgelt, um die Geschmacksknospen aufzufrischen?

>>107070819
Dreaming about winning the lottery is normal and sane. It's actually playing the lottery that's dumb.

>>107070866
>Its possible, i think the market is recovering
It was recovering last time.

>>107059098
>>107059482
>>107059575
lol same

>>107060748
they chose a college freshman over me for an internship I interviewed for. I have 2 years of experience.

>>107060879
if you really are good you could just email founders. Grind it out at startups for a few years then apply at big tech.

I've got about 12 years experience in support and sysadmins. I don't really need that much money. Is there any place I can find a chill remote 20 to 39 hour a week job

Are there any game devs here?
Shits fucked...

How do you cope with the fact odds are you will never find a job in the field?

>>107072114
I masturbate furiously ever day and experience a deep and profound joy witnessing ropes of my hot sticky cum launch out of my big veiny cock and land across my hairy masculine chest

For how longer will the money reserve last, anon?

>>107072102
Game dev has always been fucked.

>>107072184
Awhile. I've already spent two years fucking around. I'm learning heaps of stuff though, probably more than I would have doing typical CRUD monkey shit.

>>107072350
>two years fucking around
>he does it for free
In this job market? No shot landing a new job ever

>>107072184
just took out another cash advance today

>>107072439
can't you just move back in with your parents till you find something?

>>107072402
Not if I pad out my resume to say I've been working the entire time.

>>107072494
I live in one of my dad's spare properties
He charges me rent (way below market)
I would rather take out cash advances than let him know i'm broke.

>>107072439
>another cash advance
Why are they still giving those to broke niggas?

>>107072540
the american economy is a joke
banks are handing them out now at retardedly good rates.

>>107072544
>subprime car and advance loans are what will cause the next crash
When are you planning on stop paying it back? I wanna prep

>>107072521
>I would rather take out cash advances than let him know i'm broke.
They're the ones that will have to bail you out anyway.

>>107072608
not if I find a job before the debt racks up too high

>>107072184
I should be able to do at least four years.

>>107068548
>7% unemployment
How is it still this low when it's practically impossible for a new grad to get hired anywhere today? Shouldn't it be close to 100% unemployment?

>>107072710
:^)

>>107072710
Gig work is counted as employment
They also only survey homeowners

>>107072968
>They also only survey homeowners
what the fuck?

>>107073064
Their survey methodology has been fucked for a while. They survey 60,000 American homeowners on their current employment status, and then extrapolate the results to the rest of the country, which is how they keep the unemployment numbers so low