Thread 107068114

INFO:
https://github.com/awesome-jellyfin/awesome-jellyfin/

NEWS:
>new Android TV client is bretty gud and might be better than official ATV client
https://github.com/damontecres/Wholphin

Remember, fuck Plex.

Discuss Jellyfin

>>107068114 (OP)
Buy an ad retard

>>107068130
Its foss you fucking retars

>>107068130
leave /g/ now

>>107068114 (OP)
I like Jellyfin well enough and if I had to go back in time I would use it. The problem is Plex is better and I have a lifetime pass. Jellyfin is allot stricter about metadata naming ect. but overall I would say that it is worth it.

How's 10.11.1 on your system? Shit is fucked for me.

>>107068428
works great

>>107068428
What release did you migrate from? I followed the recommendation of upgrading from 10.10.7 and didn't run into any issues (10.11.0 had a fucked up sort ordering in the library, but that's now fixed in 10.11.1).

>>107068137
True. Imagine hating on FOSS

>>107068394
Usecase for plex that you can't do on Jellyfin?

Been running it rootless using automatic updates with podman on debian13 on a pi4 4gb

>>107068114 (OP)
My family likes movies too but they don't all have Jellyfin capable TV/smart devices.

>>107068114 (OP)
>Jellyfin is a Free Software Media System that puts you in control of managing and streaming your media.
No. Television and movies? Absolutely. It excels.
But other general media? YouTube videos, home movies, anything else? No. Content structure/navigation is inflexible and metadata gets fucked up.
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/13655
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/13197
https://github.com/tubearchivist/tubearchivist-jf-plugin/issues/30
It's still great software. I just wish these specific quirks get fixed soon.

>>107068428
Did you make sure to upgrade from 10.10.7 specifically and not any other version? Like the upgrade instructions warn you about?

>>107068428
was absolutely busted and i had to reinstall. then i realized im a moron and it was my fault. i was using jellyfin from a debian 11 extrepo on debian 12. reinstalled and seems to be working just as well as before.

>>107068804
>My family likes movies too but they don't all have Jellyfin capable TV/smart devices.
just buy them boxes

>>107068114 (OP)
This may be a more of a general webhosting question but I'm not able to reach my jellyfin at jellyfin.domain.net after transfering my domain to cloudflare. I was already managing the dns records through them and nothing seems to have changed on that front, but it's jist not resolving. It works fine through the local address. I'm also using caddy.

>>107068428
>Migrating
>not completely removing and freshly installing everything and completely rebuilding your library
I bet you fags don't even spring clean

>>107068678
Foss always points to civilization

Why the hell hasn't jellyfin or plex added the ability to save transcodes in a directory with automatic pruning based on quotas using least recently accessed and/or hard time limits from when something was last accessed?
>Just transcode shit manually and add it.
How about no. I should be able to say "here's a folder, don't use more than a TB" and let it automatically figure shit out for itself. If I'm doing a group watch of something with some friends I can easily have 10-15 instances of the same file being transcoded at once. Cache that shit on disk and then I'm not bumping into encoder limits when both of my cousin's want to watch something.

Alternatively, why does neither of them support multiple hardware transcoding devices at once?

I have 2gig symettrical fiber, so I have the bandwidth for people to watch without transcoding, so this hasn't been a major issue, but it's still been annoying a few times.

>>107070045
i'm actually about to set up a tv show/movie downloading server similar to mine for a friend, and since he won't have a fat nas, i was going to setup literally exactly what you described.
since i haven't started it yet, i haven't checked if there's an existing solution, but i was just going to do it myself at the filesystem level with a shell script, like just set a minimum free space (enough for a new movie/season to be dumped into it) and then remove files to keep that target by using the oldest access times (will need to turn on atimes since that's often disabled by default nowadays). sonarr/radarr has an option to unmonitor deleted files so i don't need to worry about them re-downloading new copies automatically

>>107070045
Why haven't they added a functional folder structure browser for non-standard collections?
Surely it wouldn't be that hard.
I use Kodi to stream seasonal anime to my home theater and I'm forced to use the "home pics and videos" library for it because otherwise I have no clue on which episode I'm about to watch. Unfortunately it then doesn't properly label shit watched/unwatched, its a shitshow.

>>107068130
What a niggardly blunder. Please leave your badge at your desk and vacate the premises pronto.

>>107070106
Shoko with Jellyfin works great for seasonal (and all) anime. Maybe if you have RSS set up and finish the download in 0.1s nobody will have dumped the metadata yet, but then you can just re-scan it.

>>107070069
The problem is that you have to either encode your entire collection, or do it before you want to watch something. The first would be literally dozens of TB of space for me even at 1080p 10Mbit, and the latter requires effort to anticipate what a bunch of people will want to watch ahead of time, then transcoding it, then getting plex/jellyfin to update their libraries.

You'd think that it'd be fairly trivial to break videos into 15 second chunks and track their access times in an internal database, and manage prunes based off of that. Periodically (like once a day or week) scrub the folder to look for orphaned/malformed files in case of inconsistencies. If someone opens something up and starts to transcode, generate a few intervals ahead and pave out full blocks to disk. Log all the files generated, log when they were last accessed, and log their size. The worst that happens is someone loads up a bunch of shows looking for something to watch and paves out a few gigs of disk space. Oh well, they'll rotate out in a week or two anyways, and you could always add another check to prioritize pruning segments that have never been accessed a few hours after creation (which automatically cleans up stuff generated several minutes ahead of time if you want to pre-encode that far into the future).

Batching stuff like this is actually better for performing the transcodes. Plex and jellyfin already do this a bit under the hood anyways. Each transcode takes up a fair bit of vram, so running one very very fast and paving out entire minute segments to disk means that you can unload that transcode and swap to another. Just keep the queue sufficiently far ahead of watchers. Given that modern hardware can transcode to 4k at 300+fps, we're talking less than 2 seconds to encode 15 seconds of 4k video or multiple minutes of 1080p video.

>>107070246
oh i'm talking about source files/storage, i haven't touched transcoding

>>107070246
You don't even need an SSD for this.

Any mechanical hard drive that can handle 100MB/s of read/writes could handle reading 50 concurrent 1080p 10Mb streams while writing out 10 new ones without any problems. Just make sure you fetch and write stuff in blobs of a few MB to prevent random I/O. OK, you'd use a bit of ram, but just add documentation noting that streaming to dozens of concurrent users is in fact going to use a bit of memory for caching disc I/Os and leave it at that.

This solves a lot of issues unless you have dozens of people watching dozens of different 4k streams that nobody else has watched before, which just isn't realistic for home user stuff. Group sessions watching a TV show or a movie? Absolutely happens. 50 different people watching 50 different shows/bitrate combinations randomly? Not unless you're serving hundreds of concurrent users.

>>107070253
Not sure what you're doing then desu.

Are you saying you want to sync local copies of stuff off of your system to his?

>>107070269
no i'm making a standalone system

>>107068114 (OP)
Is that TV client more customizable than the official one? Coming from Kodi, the TV client sucks.
The most irritating thing is that it doesn't offer a simple folder-like view that I need for my youtube library without metadata.
>>107069283
You can get a free anonymous domain at freemyip.com to troubleshoot whether the fault is on your side or cloudflare.

>>107068628
Upgrades from 10.10.7
>>107068851
Yes.

>>107068428
Seamless update, works perfectly. Running it on my Debian 12 server

>>107068686
I also have a lifetime pass so there's no reason to ever switch.
I don't think jellyfin has a plexamp competitor. that would be a big one for me. I stream my music library from my car, can listen on my work pc from the website, etc.

PLEX just works

>>107068137
So is your mom, but I can still get a virus from her.

I would like it if I could tell Jellyfin NOT to use any locally-discovered
>poster.jpg
>cover.jpg
files in the media directory.
Most of the time, they suck. I want to use the images fetched from the internet but every time I select one, it resets it to the one in the dir the next time it scans for new media.
The Jellyfin-Ignore plugin doesn't work for this purpose.

Today, I enabled hardware acceleration for my RX 580.

>>107070835
I dont believe jellyfin offers that so I can understand seeking an alternative solution for that

>>107070835
>>107073943
TailScale is the answer.

>>107068686
VASTLY superior TV apps etc.

>>107074173
The Roku app for Jellyfin is definitely on par with the Plex app.

i use emby server. is there any reason to switch to plex?

>>107074241
Yes, if you hate money and privacy.

>>107068114 (OP)
Jellyfin is awesome. Everything just werks so far, including hardware acceleration

>>107074278
>Yes, if you hate money and privacy.
okay so emby chads rise up i suppose

>>107068114 (OP)
i don't see a point in this unless I can literally host all of my retro game roms in the cloud which I know is not the case.

>all the content in the world
>same quality as jellyfin and plex
>range of addons to improve your experience
>don't have to buy 10+TB of hard drives while still not competing its library
>can watch anything instantly, without having to download
>can download locally if it's something obscure and the cache might run out

Unless you're a datahoarder, there's no reason not to switch to picrel

>>107068114 (OP)
>>new Android TV client is bretty gud and might be better than official ATV client
>https://github.com/damontecres/Wholphin
oh shit this actually looks good

>>107068428
Docker self-upgraded through watchtower and fuct itself. My fault for leaving it at :latest. Lesson learned.

>>107068137
(((Who's))) paying you to shill, then? Mossad? NSA? They can buy an ad.

Ok guys, what I'm in for ?

>>107074606
It seems pretty self explanatory.

>>107071130
Plex is botnet

>>107074606
>Ok guys, what I'm in for ?
The best way to play your media on all devices in your house.

>>107068130
Tranny

>>107068114 (OP)
>https://github.com/damontecres/Wholphin
thanks for this.
exactly what I wanted

>>107074606
The best way to worsen your hoarding problem.

How do I get this to work with Truenas scale docker is retarded

>>107068114 (OP)
>>new Android TV client is bretty gud and might be better than official ATV client
Can it play .ass subtitles without transcoding?

>>107076145
>Can it play .ass subtitles without transcoding?
yes

>>107068114 (OP)
can it stream torrents?
if not i don't care

>>107076270
Time to try it out then. The official android TV needs an external player to do this

>>107076281
>The official android TV needs an external player to do this
That was added in https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-androidtv/releases/tag/v0.19.0

>>107076296
nta but nice, i've been waiting for that for a long time

>>107068130
/g/ technologically illiterate.

>>107076296
>That was added in https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-androidtv/releases/tag/v0.19.0
FUCKING PLAY STORE DOESN'T HAVE IT YET FUCKKKK

>>107076296
Thanks, because I just tried Wholphin and while it can indeed play the subtitles, they are extremely ugly with seemingly no way to change them (the whole subtitles are in a black box with white text, no transparency)

>>107076412
>they are extremely ugly with seemingly no way to change them (the whole subtitles are in a black box with white text, no transparency)
Wholphin is brand new and hasn't added custom subtitle styling yet. It only has the Android captions for now. Here's the issue where the dev says he will add custom subs.
https://github.com/damontecres/Wholphin/issues/11

>>107075145
>Kaamelott
Basé

Anyone know how to fix the issue with random seasons being created? Like I'll have Season 1 and for some reason a duplicate season is created as Season 12160 or some random number.

>>107074045
wouldn't help for either of those

>>107071130
only if you pay for it

>>107077020
never seen that

>>107077751
Idk, it started after the new update, making a completely new server doesn't fix the issue.

>>107074241
Definitely, Emby is literally the worst one. It's just Jellyfin with almost every single setting in the options menu missing.

>>107074494
Oh this is pretty important. It has issues though as it's obviously a small time thing.

>>107068114 (OP)
>install plex
>useful options locked behind paywall
>try to run anything
>its unusable

>install jellyfin
>it just works
>actually allows hardware acceleration for my SBC
why did I not install this first

>>107077130
I'm streaming music remotely from my phone and laptop though.

>>107074606
>flatpak

>>107078159
>I'm streaming music remotely to* my phone and laptop though.

>>107074447
yea idk what that is

>>107078088
jellyfin is a fork of emby since emby went proprietary around 2017. they were initially identical of course, but i wouldn't be surprised if they've diverged some since then. i used to use emby but switched to jellyfin once that showed up

>>107078579
Yep, as time has gone on, Jellyfin has added around 1000 settings that are just not there on Emby. I don't actually know of any reason at all that someone would use Emby over Plex/Jellyfin. They're really the only two options if we're being realistic. Emby feels like abandonware its so lacking.

Thoughts on the Kodi addons?

>>107074447
>same quality as jellyfin and plex
You can only use stremio on public shit, it's basically useless. nzbdav mogs it somewhat.

Upgraded but it feels really sluggish and stopped acknowledging subtitle tracks unless I explicitly set them enabled every episode. Might go back to 10.10.7.

>>107068114 (OP)
>wholpin
Thanks for the info about this

>>107074447
Stremio is trash for idiots who pay to pirate

>>107068394
same, but in the back of my mind I'm worried for the day when Plex.us.corpo narcs on all of our collections.

>>107079395
Just don't use Plex. Many reasons not to.

>>107074754
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>>107074447
>cant side load subtitles
>has to depend on public trackers with bad quality low avaibility
no thanks

>>107080436
>cant side load subtitles
you can, there's a community subtitle addon for that
>has to depend on public trackers with bad quality low avaibility
never tried private trackers, do you guys have remux+ or what? never found any missing movies or shows I've wanted to watch

>>107077020
I confirm, got the bug myself on 2 series.

The solution is to rename the bugged folders like this :
series-name (2025)
Season 00 (if any or specials)
Season 01
Season 02
...

and refresh-metadata/replace-metadata for that series.

You have to do this only on the fucked up series, not all your server.

Does casting to TV require transcoding or something? I'm connected to the TV, but when I hit play on something basically nothing happens.

>>107080632
Not a bug. Skill issue

>>107078688
Useful.

>>107068114 (OP)
What's wrong with the official client?

>>107068114 (OP)
Should I install Fedora Server or Ubuntu Server on my Intel NUC? In terms of stability and tools. Mostly for hosting Wireguard, Jellyfin, Minecraft, etc.

>>107068835
I really wish it could play audiobooks. I don't care about the metadata that much, but no other library type besides music allows playing audio only files.
I know there there's podcast-specific software, but I really don't want to install 10 different server applications just to host each media type.

>>107068686
>Usecase for plex that you can't do on Jellyfin?
Not being a tinker tranny and having shit that just works for normies.

>>107076399
Can't you just get the apk from Github?
Try Obtainium if you want to keep things updated without Play Store.

>>107080972
>Does casting to TV require transcoding or something? I'm connected to the TV, but when I hit play on something basically nothing happens.
Of course not. I turn off transcoding. Use a device that can actually decode your videos, dummy

>>107081924
So is the android client known for struggling to decode a bunch of codecs?

>>107068428
It absolutely broke my last Jellyfin image. So much so I started from scratch with the official Jellyfin image from the devs themselves. Works great now and took an hour to rebuild

10.11.1 STILL fails to migrate, fuck this piece of shit

>>107068428
Still on 10.10.7 on a debian box installed through apt. Should I hold off on updating then?

>>107068394
still haven't updated to 10.11, I'm seeing too many people with issues

what am I missing?

>>107068428
Works on my machine.

>>107068686
Jellyfin has a fucking gay ass name.

>>107068686
you can only use jellyfin on your Thinkpad with programmer socks. you cannot use it anywhere else you would want to cumsoom your media. Like your 85" TV. No I won't use a browser.

>>107082573
>Should I hold off on updating then?
Don't be a retard like me, make a backup if you decide to upgrade.

>>107082573
>Should I hold off on updating then?
worked flawlessly for me and my 80 tb library

>>107083774
>>107083862
I'm getting mixed messages here. I already have a backup of most data, only thing I would risk losing would be the metadata.

>>107083913
just backup the metadata then

>>107083913
backup the config folder that contains the metadata and db in case you want to downgrade
some experience no problems, others do

>>107083921
>>107083932
Fine, I'll report back in a few hours if Jellyfin shits itself.

>>107082264
A few codecs, sure. But not the modern ones.

Tried this out on my home k8s cluster yesterday, pretty neat. Can someone recommend me a bluetooth remote or something so I don't need to get up from my couch?

>>107068114 (OP)
Recommend me some plugins.

>>107081251
Debian obviously

>>107075886
>Truenas
did it like a year ago, when they changed from kubernetes to docker, just followed some yt vids, from quick recollection, create dataset structure like picrel and point the hostpaths in the initial configuration to them and enabling the nvidia gpu, that was like the only thing I remember I had to manually do. oh yeah, and obviously point it to your media folder, already had an smb folder with proper structure.

>>107084461
>Recommend me some plugins.
just browse them in the OP link

>>107068114 (OP)
I run jellyfin for years, I host my flac music from soulseek there and listen using symfonium on Android, also host my anime there with sonarr and use shoko to organize them automagically.

>>107084204
>recommend me a bluetooth remote or something
It depends on the client and the remote device.

Ex. : Client is Ubuntu/Windows based and the remote is your smartphone.
Check "Remote Touchpad"
https://github.com/Unrud/remote-touchpad

>>107084918
Yeah, I built something like this a few years ago while looking for a job, but I'm looking for a pure hardware, plug-n-play style device to pair to a pi, nuc, or repurposed laptop running linux sitting behind a TV.

>>107068114 (OP)
My jellyfin tv app reads: "director unknown" in film details. It does list a photo of the director and the qualification "director" underneath it. Is this normal?

>>107085087
you can get one of those LIRC dongles and use any universal remote, i suppose

>>107079172
Funnily enough, I have the same issue on current Kodi. Works perfectly for movies, but for TV shows I have to enable the subtitles every time. Uset to work fine on older Kodi versions.

>>107081251
Can't go wrong with Ubuntu Server.

>>107084204
I like picrel, my previous remote had a power button that my cats liked to hit, turning off my server and raising my blood pressure. This one doesn't.

>>107081251
Do NOT install Fedora server. It is just a pathetic showing and sucks.

Ubuntu Server is extremely good but it's "stable" so you are stuck with particular versions of software. If you use Debian it allows you to use newer software, like Podman you can get the latest version with Quadlets.

Don't waste your time with niche distros, unpopular stuff, or anything outside of Debian unless you are willing to pay yearly fees for Red Hat. Just don't, you will waste your time completely and regret it. They ALL suck.

>>107086756
This is the kind of thing I was looking for, does this just show up as a typical HID device? It doesn't require any special software?

>>107068130
uh oh another plex user melty

>>107068114 (OP)
>https://github.com/awesome-jellyfin/awesome-jellyfin/
I didn't know about this list until now, I just picked up a few of these plugins. Jellyfin-enhanced is the big one, the integration with jellyseerr is really nice, the keybinds and direct *arr links are convenient too. The watchlist is also useful, but I wish it would act a bit more like a playlist. I noticed it's also a bit janky when used on my TV (webOS client), but it's still useable.

Meilisearch is also really nice once I finally figured out how to get the correct API key. Good fuzzy search and I can finally search via tags.

I've already been using intro-skipper and ani-sync.

>>107087109
Just plugged it and it works on Ubuntu Server, haven't tried anything else but I'm sure it works.

client recs for video?
All that shit on awesome-jellyfin sucks big time

https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/releases/tag/v10.11.2
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/releases/tag/v10.11.2
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/releases/tag/v10.11.2
Updoot now!

>>107081288
Audiobookshelf really is worth setting up though

>>107068114 (OP)
My main problem with Jellyfin is tvdb requires a separate subscription and the other metadata databases aren't quite as good. Plex just werks.

>>107083953
>report back
How just report

I don’t understand codecs. I was under the assumption if h264 worked than any file encoded using h264 would work but that’s not the case. I’m trying to get it so all my videos run without transcoding on my tv. Even after running the same ffmpeg command, the playback info for some videos say:

Transcoding Information
* Reason: VideoProfileNotSupported
* Reason: VideoBitDepthNotSupported


What do I need to do to control video profile and bit depth when running ffmpeg?

Secondly, mp4 of mkv?

>>107089231
>I’m trying to get it so all my videos run without transcoding on my tv.
disable transcoding
use a client that decodes everything directly

>>107070835
Symfonium "just werks" but its not Jellyfin exclusive either

>>107081251
nixos is fantastic for servers

>>107087982
>client recs for video?
for which platform?

>>107084485
>>107085469
>>107086821
>Debian/Ubuntu
Do this and half of your stuff will stop working in a year due to rustrannies infestation

>>107089383
>nixos
sure if you want to spend half of your time figuring out new language so you would have reproducibility
nigga when are you gonna reproduce your home lab?!?!

Either fedora server if you want rolling release and latest versions or rocky linux if you want a stable rhel fork

>>107089959
reproducibility is great, having all your configuration in one place and stored in git. my debian vps has config files scattered throughout the filesystem duc-taped together by backup.sh syncing to the cloud, its shit.

>>107089959
Not a chance, it will be fixed immediately because real enterprises actually rely on these things working, and there's actually accountability with Ubuntu etc, as they have paid enterprise support. Unlike with random nerds.

>>107089959
>half of your stuff will stop working in a year
Meanwhile in reality, my Ubuntu 18.04 mail server still gets updates and works as well as it did in 2019 when I set it up.
Must suck to be you.

>>107090163
sure, keep me updated in a year
>>107088681

>>107090235
It will be unchanged in a year, and in three years. This is not Fedora where you get your codecs forcibly removed after 6 months because Red hat said so.
Step outside the basement and you'll see that nobody gives a fuck about your self-inflicted outrage.

>>107090264
uutils already broke a bunch of systems
enjoy your buggy and rushed DEI software

>>107090481
>things that never happened
kek, buck broken
where did rust touch you?

>>107068428
no problem so far

>>107089231
H.264 has many settings that can be used when encoding video, a major one is the profiles, which are distinct sets of limitations on other settings which are typically used as targets for hardware decoders. because H.264 is quite old (2004), any remotely recent hardware decoder should support High 5.1 profile, which most H.264 content is encoded at, or lower if it's targeting older hardware, like for example the PSP (2004) is limited to Baseline 3.0.
there are some profiles beyond High 5.1 however, which are typically not supported by hardware decoders, like High 10, which uses 10-bit samples for pixels (bitdepth) rather than the typical 8-bit samples. pirated anime is often in High 10 as it has much better gradient rendition which is important for animated content with flat shading.

>>107089231
>>107090747
pic related is such a 10bit h.264 example. i don't know of any hardware decoders that support this.
also important to note that this doesn't mean your hardware can't decoder 10bit in general, H.265 decoders often support 10bit decoding, as it was more of a standard/early feature in H.265, being an important part of supporting HDR, which is before H.264's heyday

>>107090770
>before H.264's heyday
after*

Why use Jellyfin instead of just plugging a computer with enough hdd space to your tv/monitor/projector? I currently do not hoard movies. As women are chad only, dgaf about the social stigma ov kino connoisseuring via laptop.

Stremio + debrid/Torrentio also seems to be a kino combination.

>>107091009
What if you have two TVs?

>>107068114 (OP)
what are some must have plugins?

>>107091009
Are you dumb? Casting from your phone to the tv, directly on the tv and even family members and friends using it is based and easy as fuck

>>107068114 (OP)
these retards literally ruined a working software with their retarded update to 10.11
not only did a gigantic number of users stop being able to launch the server, because of idiotic /tmp and /logs size requirements, this shit doesn't let me stream local files anymore...
i don't understand why
it just sends 25 bits and nothing more
fucking idiots
how do i downgrade to 10.10 on dietpi?

>>107091914
Shokofin

>>107091938
I told people not to update
that update was for the devs not for users

>>107091742
wow, you must be rich!
https://youtu.be/yIeqW7CYKdQ

>>107092013
the problem is, they added the new version to the repository, so that shit upgraded for everyone doing apt upgrade....

is there some plugin that would add a '4k' logo on a poster for things that are 4k?

>>107092013
>>107092071
that update is also gonna land in nixos 25.11 stable, neat

>>107091009
So that I can watch something not on the tv, like on a trip, or in my bed.

>>107092632
Jellyfin Enhanced

>>107082833
Why would you use a browser?
Are you just baiting to be spoonfed?

>>107091009
Because it does way more than your solution.

i've got 4 different jellyfin servers
is there a way to somehow put them all together into one, like plex? maybe some custom player that doesn't make me relogin every time i want to search for something?

I have an iphone and want to use the beta native video player. With some of my media, it throws a 11850 error and "AVFoundationErrorDomain" exception when using the native player, along with the message that the server is misconfigured.
Can I configure the server to work? I googled around a bit and it appears that this error is thrown when transcoding a stream and the client times out?
Anyone have any advice on how to fix this issue? I can use the default video player, but the native player's controls are better imo

>>107088990
Ok, update from 10.10.7 to 10.11.
Used this to make a manual backup:
TIMESTAMP=$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S)
VERSION=10.10.7
sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/jellyfin/backups/backup.${TIMESTAMP}_${VERSION}
sudo cp -a /var/lib/jellyfin/data /var/lib/jellyfin/backups/backup.${TIMESTAMP}_${VERSION}/data
sudo cp -a /var/lib/jellyfin/metadata /var/lib/jellyfin/backups/backup.${TIMESTAMP}_${VERSION}/metadata
sudo cp -a /var/lib/jellyfin/plugins /var/lib/jellyfin/backups/backup.${TIMESTAMP}_${VERSION}/plugins
sudo cp -a /var/lib/jellyfin/root /var/lib/jellyfin/backups/backup.${TIMESTAMP}_${VERSION}/root
sudo cp -a /etc/jellyfin /var/lib/jellyfin/backups/backup.${TIMESTAMP}_${VERSION}/config


Now I get
>Migration "20250420200000_MigrateLibraryDb" failed
>System.InvalidOperationException: The instance of entity type 'MediaStreamInfo' cannot be tracked because another instance with the same key value for {'ItemId', 'StreamIndex'} is already being tracked. When attaching existing entities, ensure that only one entity instance..

REGRET

Just so this thread isn't only filled with people who had issues with the 10.11 update:

For me it worked just fine. The migration took 3-4 minutes.

>>107095254
now update to .2

shrug

>>107095338
good boy.
i don't get why some people had issues. this the best major update they've done so far.

>>107095381
>i don't get why some people had issues.
it's because stupid people didn't follow the directions and updated from a much older version instead of the recommended way to update.

>>107094576
why do you have 4 jellyfin servers??

>>107095317
sure, that also worked for me
>jellyfin | [21:01:22] [INF] [12] Emby.Server.Implementations.ApplicationHost: Core startup complete
> jellyfin | [21:01:22] [INF] [12] Main: Startup complete 0:00:15.3466473

>>107095075
just re-index your shit fresh

>>107095254
i migrated without issues too
and then noticed my local files aren't working because my setup is based on symlinks and they fucked it up

>>107095400
1 is mine, 3 are accounts on servers shared with me

this is like explaining the concept of typing in website addresses to zoomers lol.

There is no need to update software that works perfectly for your needs simply because the developers are autistic about their spaghetti codebase.

Sour grapes.

>>107095840
or you know, someone developing software for hundreds of thousands of people could just not be retarded

>>107095719
Download all the content from the other three servers into your server. That’d be the easiest way to have all the content in one server.

>>107095935
'haha'
also, i don't mean all in one server
but like in plex, where you can use search and it shows files from all servers you are on at the same time, so you just click and play

That would require a central account system.

>>107095391
Yeah man, when I go to apt upgrade let me go look up the changelog for each of the 300 packages to make sure there isn't some note somewhere about what specific fucking order I need to update each package.
Or they could have added a hook to prevent upgrading if it's from a too old version. Or they could have added a migration that takes into account if a previous migration has not been run. There's so many better ways from them to have handled this and there's no reason for you to defend their retardation.

>>107096073
>they could have added a hook to prevent upgrading if it's from a too old version
they didn't do that
they put it in the notes on a blogpost that I saw on /g/

>>107096152
Well, clearly anyone who dared upgrading without reading their blogpost has no one to blame but themselves.

This has been a good thread. There are clearly many issues around the lastest Jellyfin update, but people have also said it's been a good update.

>>107096988
>There are clearly many issues around the lastest Jellyfin update
not really
it's just idiots who can't follow update directions.

>>107094576
There are a couple solutions for this mentioned in https://github.com/awesome-jellyfin/awesome-jellyfin/ but I haven't tried any of them since I don't have access to multiple server.

>>107068394
This, I tried both when I started self hosting and preferred plex. Might give jellyfin another go soon though with how plex keeps degrading.

>>107068130
This was fairly successful from the looks of it

>>107097020
Show me where the update directions were.

>>107097138
in this simple 15 minute read article

https://jellyfin.org/posts/jellyfin-release-10.11.0/

>>107097138
>Show me where the update directions were.
literally in the release notes you dumb monkey nig

>>107097163
>>107097168
So nowhere when updating through a package manager like a sane person? Do you monkeys seriously go and manually download and install every single update? Retards.

>>107097184
well I'm partly trolling but I think the other guy's serious lol

I like jellyfin but I've learned not to trust them when it comes to simply clicking updoot with it

>>107074606
> >Ok guys, what I'm in for ?
The cheapest way to play your media on all devices in your house.

>>107088913
I gave it a try and couldn’t get it to work. Can’t remember what issue I ran into. nta

>>107089562
pc gnu+linus

>>107097955
the desktop media player is fine

>downgrade back to 10.10.7
>restore back up
>runs fine
>update to 10.11.0
>migration still fails
ok fuck your update then

>>107097955
jellyfin-mpv-shim

>>107099533
>update to 10.11.0
why, they have fixed bugs in 10.11.2

>>107099735
got the same error on both 10.11.2 and 10.11.0

>>107099779
not my problem

>>107099865
you asked

>>107097184
Yes. Its not a desktop app.

>>107075145
>Kaamelott
One of us! One of us!

>>107097163
>Database conversion to EF Core
>@JPVenson, who with less than 6 months involved in the project took on this massive project and drove it to completion.
>as part of the conversion process we decided to actively try to improve the schema while we were at it
This kind of incompetence makes the whole project look bad.
They tried to do way too much in a single update and left it to someone new to the project.
https://jpb.software
Looked the guy up. German C# architect and consultant for 10+ years. Would think someone like that would know better.

Anyone know if there's an android tv app for jellyseer? I have it working through a website I'm hosting but it would be super convenient if I could browse and select things directly from my TV.
Also would be really helpful for my wife and parents.

>>107078157
Because your favorite "tech" JEWTubers got payed to shill Plex for years and you fell for the meme. Now that most of them aren't getting a paycheck anymore, they are suddenly singing the praise of Jellyfin, and like a teen pretending old shit is new, you jumped on the bandwagon with them.

>>107102078
>I have it working through a website I'm hosting
I dont know about jellyseer, but the "TVBro" app allows you to browse a website on your tv with the remote, it has favorites, so should be alright

>>107068114 (OP)
>bought a little minipc shitbox to put jellyfin on
>installed ubuntu server
>started setting it up but got bored and now forgot what ive done
is there a quick and easy guide to do all the shit you need like server hardening etc for retards

>>107104499
Use the docker image for jellyfin
When you say hardening what exactly are you talking about? Do you want to have external access to your jellyfin server?

>>107104560
i dont care so much about external access its fine to just have it on my home network, but i'll use it for torrenting shit and dont want it to get hacked

>>107104578
>i'll use it for torrenting shit and dont want it to get hacked
You were right, you are a retard.

>>107104624
i know, now change my diaper and spoonfeed me please

>>107104560
>Use the docker image for jellyfin
No, no, no, fuck this fucking shit. This habit of putting every little piece of software in its own additional layer of problems make needs to die. You'll map folders, ports, users between the container and the host. You'll make your GPU drivers accessible to the container for HW rendering to work. You'll lose your weekends on it until it works. Then some day docker will fail to write in some rarely used directory during the container's update, the update will fail, the container will be left in a partially-updated state and Jellyfin will refuse to start. Then you'll start looking for whatever the fuck happened in some random 12 levels deep file path with uuids in them. And the error will contain data that is not to be found anywhere. And you'll just want to throw this shit through the window. Or start over with a bare metal install that has been actually packaged by a human being FOR THE USERS and NOT thrown together like shit into a bag by some LAZY DEVS.

>>107104578
>i dont care so much about external access its fine to just have it on my home network
Server related hardening is to prevent access from randos / bots. If you haven't opened up you ports (on the router) you don't have to worry anymore than you would if you weren't running services. With ports closed no one can try to remote log in to your computer from india. If you are torrenting, you are accepting the risks regardless since you have openly invited the files on to your computer. To mitigate that, use containers (i.e. docker images) so that nothing outside a container is ever running something from a sketchy source. i.e. you have your jellyfin in a data and it's the only place where a video gets read. Containers aren't perfect but they are a good middle ground between performance (should have no impact on performance) and raised security as it limits access to the host computer's filesystem.

>>107104786
This is all trivial. Learn docker (not hard at all) and it will save so much time in the long run.
>GPU drivers accessible to the container for HW rendering to work
This is not true. You can access the host GPU directly inside the docker nvidia's container toolkit. It doesn't even block access to the GPU for other programs. Be organized. Put all a container's data into it's on directory, give the container user ownership of the entire directory and you are fine.

>>107104898
>docker nvidia's container toolkit
yeah this shit
you have to install it first
learn to regenerate its retarded file after each driver update
endless google hours
for what

Bare metal or nothing. Have a properly packaged program or suck my dick I won't spend my free time learning to install endless layers of opaque shit to spare the devs a few more efforts.

>>107104898
The docker HW acceleration shit is so easy, it’s crazy people struggle with it. Just use compose >1.28 and ya never have to change anything

Glad I never used Plex and went to Jellyfin first.
Plex sounds horrible. An email to use my self-hosted files???? Fuck that shit.

>>107105957
you have to pay monthly to remotely access your own files as well

>>107106106
lol

>>107106106
Plex
>Paying a monthly fee to watch your pirated stuffs.

Netflix/Apple+/Hulu/whatever
>Paying a monthly fee to watch legally your stuffs.

What's the point off Plex then ?!

>>107102078
Jellyfin enhanced plugin has jellyseerr integration in searches. Not the same experience as browsing jellyseerr directly, but I find it's good enough most of the time.

>>107107289
>What's the point off Plex then ?!
/g/ is stupid

>>107107289
>watch legally your stuffs.
it's not even your stuff. you don't own shit when you pay for streaming.

Just upgraded from 10.10.7 to 10.11.2, no problems here.

>>107107529
Thanks that looks promising

i'm running 10.8.8 and i have never even considered upgrading since i installed it. is there any compelling reason to upgrade to the latest?

>>107105957
Plex used to be ok in the past but you know how that goes

>>107087109
yes
touchpad even works without a driver

>>107101383
>German C# architect
>Would think someone like that would know better.
>German C# architect

>>107096010
i wish all these self-hosted services had some kind of centralized auth server

>>107108889
It's way faster to start up, search is apparently faster too but I haven't tried it yet. Admin panel looks nicer.

Why are 1 TB HDD's 50$?

>>107104499
get proxmox
put ubuntu server one on vm. get the docker image binhex/archqbittorrent and put it in a docker image on your ubuntu server vm. that image does the vpn port forwarding for you so you don't have to kill yourself trying to figure out how to port forward with an openvpn gateway
put truenas on another vm
put jellyfin on a proxmox lxc container

>>107109919
yea bro, setting up 3 vm's and containers sure is easier than just installing the programs, especially for a retard.
mental illness

>>107109919
Why would you not just install truenas on baremetal and run qbit and jellyfin on there

>>107077281
How much would you pay someone to make software to do all that plex does?

>>107109716
Why are you looking at 1tb hdds in 2025?

>>107110109
cos truenas vms suck scale sucks get a real hypervisor

>>107110142
he just asked you
>run qbit and jellyfin on there
>on there = truenas
containerization really is a mental illness

>>107068804
I tried to get my dad to cut the cord (paying $175 a month) using Jellyfin. Got him to use it occasionally, but never got him to cut the cord. I bought an entire encoding SFF computer for it. Maybe Sonarr/Radarr refusing to NOT download exes or refusing to recognize a directory migration had something to do with it.

>>107110128
I vaguely remember a tonemapping issue with converting HDR to SDR, but have no clue what PLEX does that makes it worth spending money over now.

>>107110138
Because a long time ago i got 10 of them for around that price, which i put into a z2 pool, and now one died

>>107110142
Truenas has native compose support there's no need for VMs

>>107110090
he was actually giving you the best advice that a noob retard could get. proxmox is a hypervisor with a nice gui that makes setting up vms almost retardproof so if you ever fuck up one of your vms and can't figure out how to unfuck it you can just delete it and spin up a new one. so really if you didn't want to learn how to use docker or the proxmox containers you can just run every app in its own vm. i think for a noob retard running proxmox will actually be more friendly for you especially if you're not a tinker tranny and you just want to install your shit and never touch it once it's working
t. noob retard running proxmox for this exact reason

>>107068428
updated like normal and no issues at all
ubuntu server

Not related to Jellyfin but figured you might know.

When I stream movies to my friend over Discord, HDR files look washed out, is there a way to turn off HDR from my video player (mpc-be) or should I use some ffmpeg script to convert the HDR file to SDR?

Sometimes 4k releases only have HDR and I can't find SDR 4k torrents and my only SDR option left is 1080p.

>>107113275
Does MPC not do automatic SDR tone mapping? I stream HDR videos to friends over Discord on mpv and it's just fine.

>>107104898
>Learn docker
No

>>107113378
It does I don't know his issue

>>107113378
Oh wait, MPC-HC does he's using MPC-BE don't know if that one does in fact I don't even know if that ones still developed

>>107110168
yeah it's really buggy it likes to throw cryptic python errors
they pulled docker image support a long time ago so if you have an old version maybe that will work
truecharts doesn't even like syncing 50% of the time
>dude just vibe code a yaml config file
holy ass

has anything been nerf'd in the new version of JF?

>>107114013
No

Just use nginx webserver with autoindex and mpv

>>107114067
>just use gingy boingo with mpeepee and autoshit
No

>>107114013
performance

I installed debian on an incel nuc and it had old e1000e drivers that were faulty and prevented normal ethernet usage.

Anyone got a recommendation for a mini pc / intel nuc for Homeserver usage? Doesn't have to be anything crazy, need it for jellyfin and other movie / music / image storage

>>107114477
whatever you get with non F intel cpu

>>107114507
Why a non f? Is something cheap with an i3 decent enough?

>>107114561
F cpus dont have an iGPU so you are gonna miss out on hardware transcoding

>>107114477
look for cheap deals
having two NICs might serve you well down the road
if theres a pice lane for some port they put in like a displayport you can always buy another nic

>>107114682
I'm already looking around ebay and ali. Hope something decent pops up

>>107114621
Oh I see, I'll keep an eye out for that then

>>107113732
>>dude just vibe code a yaml config file
There's like 4 settings to change why would you need to vibe code anything. Just learn how it works it takes 10 minutes at most.

>>107091914
>>107091960
some more to recommend?

>>107114208
Ubuntu is plan B.

>>107070835
>lifetime pass
hahahahahahaha
https://youtu.be/yzOVITTgd6E
https://youtu.be/OHY9K8X45XA
https://youtu.be/YAx3yCNomkg

>>107114744
As long as its gen 6 or newer it should do the job

ATTENTION: WHOLPHIN FOR ANDROID TV IS GOING TO ADD MPV SUPPORT

https://github.com/damontecres/Wholphin/tree/develop/mpv
https://github.com/damontecres/Wholphin/tree/develop/mpv
https://github.com/damontecres/Wholphin/tree/develop/mpv

THIS CLIENT MIGHT ACTUALLY BECOME WAY BETTER THAN THE OFFICIAL ANDROID TV CLIENT.

>>107115330
>just change like 4 words DUDE
kys
even if a noob figures this out scale will probably shape shift again <6 months given it's track record of instability

truly the wordpress of self hosting

>>107114208
what about fedora? just stay on the last version. those still get security updates.

>>107068686
The main thing that's keeping me from dumping Plex outright for JF is that it doesn't support google cast from the mobile app.

Any good HTPC friendly clients for Jellyfin, the official client isn't controller/remote friendly as I'd like, and it would be nice to have something that 'feels' more 10ft friendly like the Android client

>>107117556
Nobody uses htpcs anymore you stupid homo. Just use Android.

>>107117556
kodi?

>>107116986
wholphin is a stuttery piece of shit, I uninstalled it immediately

>>107117995
Works fine for me. Your box must be shit.

>>107117556
your only choice is jellycon + kodi

>>107087873
>>107108992
Thanks anons, got it delivered yesterday and does exactly what I needed.

>two directories, one with 8000 images and one with 1000 videos
I've been using Jellyfin for months already and it works great for streaming stuff to my phone at home, however I'm concerned that the directories are getting too bloated.
I heard that Jellyfin isn't too fond of dealing with images, and that having too many files in a single directory causes issues for both the OS (Kubuntu in my case) and the apps that explore it (Dolphin and Jellyfin).

Is the issue overblown or is it something that will bite me in the ass later if I don't fix it now?
If I should fix it, would using a script and moving the files to a 3-level dir tree composed of the first six letters of each file's SHA256 hash to distribute them evenly work?. Something like
>/ab/cd/ef/filename.ext

>>107068835
>>107081288
Can't you just make a plugin?
https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/server/plugins/

>>107119113
Not sure. But in general I think you should follow the hard linker guide to make life easier for you in the long run anyways.

https://trash-guides.info/File-and-Folder-Structure/

It's annoying, but once you have everything set up it becomes so brainless that you don't really have to put any thought into your structure because everything is mostly done for you.

>>107117051
It's literally already filled out for you just change the provider and uname/password how hard can it be

ATTENTION: YOU CAN NOW TRACK THE PROGRESS ON MPV SUPPORT ON THE NEW ANDROID TV CLIENT WHOLPHIN HERE!

https://github.com/damontecres/Wholphin/pull/161
https://github.com/damontecres/Wholphin/pull/161
https://github.com/damontecres/Wholphin/pull/161

I’ve tried them all several times over
Plex is superior, which sucks because I am a huge FLOSS supporter. If it’s only for you in your own home, you should probably use jellyfish but the moment you start to share, plex will solve numerous headaches. The biggest being that Luddite’s can use it.

>>107118405
onn. 4k pro, highly acclaimed tv box for its performance

>>107076296
>That was added in https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-androidtv/releases/tag/v0.19.0

>Add experimental ASS direct play using libass #4630, by @nielsvanvelzen
[...]
> Remove libass preference in non-development builds #4876, by @nielsvanvelzen

>We've recently added the libass-android library to allow direct-play of the ssa and ass formats for subtitles. Unfortunately the library has been plagued with memory issues causing the app to crash and has a non-transparent release pipeline. So far it doesn't appear that work is being done on these issues.

Yeah, it does not look like we will get that any time soon

>>107068114 (OP)
>>new Android TV client is bretty gud and might be better than official ATV client
>https://github.com/damontecres/Wholphin

>Wholphin's user interface and controls have been written completely from scratch. Wholphin uses the same media player (media3/ExoPlayer) as the official client.

and into the trash it goes, not even libmpv, or even libvlc (trash, but atleast you know..., an attempt would have been made)


i use the official jellyfin client, with the external player option, and mpv selected, in my androidTV ecosystem. It mogs the native player jellyfin uses

>>107120226
funny, that was my complaint >>107120861

>>107120861
Self-rekt

>>107120364
You're just dumb

>>107117556
kodi's fine
granted, i've never used the stock jellyfin frontend. i used kodi since it was called xbmp (yes, "p"), so it has just been my go-to "10 foot" frontend (to use american terms) since i started using such a thing (it introduced me to serving my own media on my tv using a computer in a way besides just viewing a windows desktop)

>>107068114 (OP)
Wholpin looks great but it doesn't play any of the subtitles and it keeps buffering or loading even with direct play. I really like how it's looking though.

>>107122526
Kodi is fucking annoying as hell to use and I've been trying since it's fucking xbm days. Every time some retarded shit kills it or fucks up the files in someway display

>>107120018
its already literally filled out because i unilaterally peripendicularly vehicularly wrote it
only left is in their doc

>>107122526
Kodi is kind of ass, though the whole situation is be honest. I know HTPC is "dead" but I'm wanting to get away from Android/Google and streaming service shit, and at least getting my TV experience away from it is a small steep.

Would be nice if Plasma Bigscreen got good for a comprehensive experience.

>>107122526
I also use Kodi and don't understand the complaints at all. It's rock solid.

>>107123127
People coming from Fires and Apple TVs getting filtered by the UI would be my guess. Granted, this would be a valid complaint if there weren't dozens of skins that emulate Goy Box UIs.

>>107122652
There's an example config pinned in the issue tracker. Should they add it to the main page, probably. But it's still there.