Thread 107089944

Any Win7gods ever have any issues with viruses, malware, ransomware etc?

>>107089944 (OP)
I absolutely do not believe this actually happened.

>>107089944 (OP)
never

>>107089998
They analyze steering to determine how good you drive. This doesn't let you identify faces

>>107090053
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cars%20privacy%20spying

>According to Australian consumer advocacy group Choice, top car brands like Hyundai, Kia, Tesla, Ford, and Toyota are collecting various forms of personal data from their vehicles. The data gathered can include everything from driving habits and location history to biometric data such as voice and facial recognition.

and it will only get better

where's the website that shows how to remove all the telemetrics antennas from modern cars? they can't report jack shit if they have no signal

>>107089944 (OP)
I downloaded a sketchy program once. I knew it was sketchy, so I ran it in a VM. It crypto locked all the VM files, so I just nuked the VM and didn't lose any data (I have backups anyway but you know it's a pain to restore from backup).
>>107090157
win7 + 1990s toyota shitbox goes very well together

>>107090173
What was the program?

>>107089944 (OP)
Average Louis Rossmann fanfiction

>>107090702
I forgot what the program was supposed to be. It was some sort of cracked program from some random web search. Nowadays I only download cracked software from 1337 (or fitgirl/dodi in the case of games) and so far I haven't had a problem on my actual computer. Never click on random web searches that want you to click a billion ad-infested links and download a suspiciously-sized exe that has no icon, that's never a good sign kek

>>107090727
It is not fan fiction.
Car companies are looking for different sources of revenue to "create value for the shareholders", and anything goes. From turning features into subscriptions to forcing you to go to a dealership because every part nowadays has to be decoded for your car to fucking sell your data to insurance companies.

>>107089998
I remember reading about a Chinese-American who bought an American car, and the car kept screaming at him, thinking he was sleeping because of his eyes.

>>107090924
The whole "profit motive" point is stale, it's the greedy corporations bro! It's proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the elite want a neo-feudal technocratic panopticon, see the Great Reset, digital ID. The Snowden leaks were over a decade ago and it's as if that never happened. Does the NSA do all that just to "make money"?

>>107090157
>car can't achieve remote attestation
>is now firmware bricked and won't start
>ipad built into the dash lights up
>"SAAAR PLEASE REPORT TO AUTHORIZE DEALERSHIP FOR NEEDFUL SERVICING"

>>107089944 (OP)
>Any Win7gods ever have any issues with viruses, malware, ransomware etc?

I never got any viruses, malware, ransomware on my computer running Windows 7!

I just had simplewall, MSE, custom hosts file, OSArmor, Sandboxie and all Windows Server 2008 R2 extended security updates on Windows 7 installed in order to enhance security

>>107091143
https://www.osarmor.com/
pretty cool

>>107089944 (OP)
>I drove, my son was in the passenger seat, I simply didn't bring my phone with me
What are these faggots gonna do?

>>107089944 (OP)
Tesla opened the floodgates to this always online shit, now I gotta worry about remote bricking from an update or malicious actor

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>>107089998
My car can figure out if I'm tired and warns me to stop, it happened to me once on the highway at night

>>107089992
>>107090053
>>107090727
stop sucking corporate cock for free, or else go back to... r3tardit

>>107089992
Modern cars know if you have sex in them because they spy on you. I think that smartphones also do the same thing, they record everything and send it.

>>107093459
>Modern cars know if you have sex in them because they spy on you. I think that smartphones also do the same thing, they record everything and send it.

Shit happens

>>107089944 (OP)
Security updates don't matter if you are not retarded. As long as you don't download malware on your own like a moron, or expose your computer directly to the internet, you will be fine. Chink botnets equipped with SMB exploits can't reach your PC if its hidden behind your ISPs router. You can make your setup even more idiot-proof with 3rd party firewall like simplewall, since most malware can't bypass any firewall at the first place, or install russian font in your system that you don't really have to use (guess why). All videos on youtube like "OOOOH I CONNECTED OLD WINDOWS TO INTERNET AND GOT HACKED IN 10 FEMTO SECONDS!" are doctored because every single time they either download the malware on their own or connect it directly to the internet, which is absolutely not the case for any normal user, I can't stress this enough how much I hate this lying linux trannies who lie like this.

>>107094288
tell that to windows xp

>>107093459
thanks kia
https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/

yeah

>Cars are always connected to manufacturer and Insurance company with constant upstream of data
>When claims are done, still need to fill out every fucking form under the sun and make sure that your story has no holes in it (Even if it is minor incongruent details)
I KNEW CLAIMS WERE HUMILIATION RITUALS

>>107094288
There are ways for you to get infected with malware without you going out of your way to run a suspicious executable... seemingly innocuous files can be crafted to take advantage of exploits in web browsers, pdf readers, image/file viewers, etc.
Exploits get discovered for web browsers every year, which makes people running old browser software vulnerable targets for drive-by malware

>>107092175
I don't know if this story is actually real, but if it is it would be pretty easy to prove there was only one person in the car by either:
>microphones / cameras detecting his son was the only voice / person in the car
>seat presence detectors (which I guess every car must have for the seatbelt warnings) detecting that only the drivers seat was occupied

>>107090060
I'm amazed they're actually giving you a link to a resource you can try to use to do something about it. Guess they couldn't afford to pay Forbes to say "and there's nothing you can do about it so just accept it as a part of life" like TV news has done with cell phones.

>>107089944 (OP)
>Any Win7gods ever have any issues with viruses, malware, ransomware etc?
I've had 2 ports permanently open since 2012 and nothing ever happens.

>>107096290
>people running old browser software
Firefox still supports w7 though.

>>107096290
>people running old browser software
just use r3dfox

who cares

>>107090993
The people who argue for "techno-feudalism" are Peter Thiel/Curtis Yarvin.
Yarvin is friends with Eron Wolf who is bankrolling Right to Repair and Louis Rossmann.
I don't believe that the so-called techno-feudalists want this, because they understand this is fucking retarded.
It's the Blackrocks of the world pushing this. They are tyrants, not kings.

>>107090993
>>107099572
Or to put this into Yarvinian terms, it's not the techno-feudalists making everything worse, it's the Cathedral that is responsible.

>>107089992
it's so absurd, how could anyone believe that

>>107089944 (OP)
>Any Win7gods ever have any issues with viruses, malware, ransomware etc?
No.
And even if I did I'd factory reset my PC and restore from backup. Computers are interchangeable and disposable.

>>107089992
>I absolutely do not believe this actually happened.
It did. All modern cars collect data from connected devices.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250301015314/https://www.forbes.com/sites/larsdaniel/2024/10/11/is-your-car-spying-on-you-the-alarming-truth-about-car-data-collection/

>According to Australian consumer advocacy group Choice, top car brands like Hyundai, Kia, Tesla, Ford, and Toyota are collecting various forms of personal data from their vehicles. The data gathered can include everything from driving habits and location history to biometric data such as voice and facial recognition.
>Hyundai and Kia, for example, collect voice data through their vehicles' recognition systems, which is then shared with Cerence, a company specializing in AI-powered interactions for the automotive sector.

Easiest way to deal with this is to find the antenna(s) that allow the car to connect to the internet and break them. This will leave all the software in the car intact and probably not brick your car... Yet.

>>107091105
So far only Tesla's do this as far as I'm aware.

>>107094791
I still have a win xp p4 i used to use to torrent bc i couldnt be assed to put protowall on my 7 machine. Never had an issue and just has a router on it and maybe an old version of avira when it wasnt malware

>>107094288
>Chink botnets equipped with SMB exploits can't reach your PC if its hidden behind your ISPs router.
Make sure to disable IPv6 in case your ISP's router doesn't properly implement a firewall (or worse, rugpulls you by breaking it in one of their mandatory updates).

This is why NAT actually is a security feature, because the internet sans NAT is exposed by default and has to have forwarding restrictions to prevent exposure, whereas NAT is restricted by default and you need to do a port mapping to expose it.

>>107100372
Thanks, not a 7fag but also disabled Netbios over TCP/IP while I was at it.

>>107089944 (OP)
>buying a car newer than 2013
lol lmao.

>Install pre-updated Windows 7 ISO
>Disable TCP/IP NetBIOS service
>Disable SMBv1 and SMBv2
>Disable vulnerable services
>Install all remaining updates from UpdatePack7R2
>Use simplewall
>Close all vulnerable ports
>Use OSArmor
>Use Sandboxie
>Pay for the 0patch
>Use Microsoft Security Essentials
>Install StevenBlack hosts file on my computer
>Use secure DNS

IT JUST WERKS

Nigger why do you need a car connected to the internet

>>107099582
I'm not too familiar with these individuals and their ideology.

>Yarvin has been described as a "neo-reactionary", "neo-monarchist" and "neo-feudalist" who "sees liberalism as creating a Matrix-like totalitarian system, and who wants to replace American democracy with a sort of techno-monarchy"

>Drawing on computer metaphors, Yarvin contends that society needs a "hard reset" or a "rebooting", not a series of gradual political reforms.[47] Instead of activism, he advocates passivism, claiming that progressivism would fail without right-wing opposition.[48] According to him, NRx adherents should design "new architectures of exit" rather than engage in ineffective political activism

So he's another hard-sell propagandist for the cult. We don't need any of this 1984 Brave New World Klaus Schwab Yuval Harari posthumanism crap. It's antihuman. As bad as past Christian Monarchies are seen today, they would be preferrable, parliamentary or absolute, I don't know yet, I haven't researched this subject enough to have a nuanced opinion.

One thing is absolutely certain however, no monarch had the power, or sought to have the power that these technocrats have and want to have. They were responsible in front of God for the protection of their people in a fundamental sense, whereas the Thiel types are brazenly posthuman and want to transform humanity into something else, which is heretical, and Yarvin's ideal is a complete 180 in comparison to any random Christian monarch in the past millenium. These people are unhinged and are in rebellion against the image of God: man, or if you want, rebellion against nature.

>Should humanity survive?
>uuuuhhhhhhh
- Peter Thiel, 2025

I'm currently listening to youtu.be/918qslcfwfY and Thiel's cadence is forceful and impatient that technology is stagnant, almost to the point of barely containable seething. Are his types an enemy to mankind? Is it a stretch to say that this ideology and rhetoric is an existential threat?

>>107089992
>>107089998
Its multiple lies combined to push a certain angle.

>1) Modern cars are a privacy nightmare
This is true, but depends upon car brands. This type of language is the same as people pushing the "All religions are same" when confronted with notion of terrorism/evils of the modern day era. Its meant to obfuscate, hide and create false impression for certain companies they do not like or like.
>story about insurance
Random shit, 100% chance its a lie
>impaired driving prevention
This is true, but its not privacy invading because these technologies are all on vehicle hardware that detects whether the driver is attentive to driving or not. There's no privacy implications, there is however soft limitation of driving when this gets triggered. If someone is drunk/sleep/passed out/etc, the car stops going instead of crashing right into another car and killing both the driver/those involved in accident.

>>107089992
Absolutely retarded goyslop consumer, kill yourself

>>107090053
How fucking stupid are you?

>>107101326
Tell me how they would identify me if I drove your car.

>>107089944 (OP)
Fuck no, I don’t windows connect to the Internet ever. Not any version for any reason.

>>107093459
Shit, Christine was doing that in the 1950s

>>107090985
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

>>107094288
Not to mention who the fuck is targeting this older segment of the market? Literally nobody. All exploits are aimed at the OS with the greatest market share since it likely offers the greatest target potential. This is like going fishing in a fucking puddle.

>>107096290
This is mostly tranny fear mongering, since there are plenty of up to doot browsers/mail clients that work on Windows 7 and attacks involving exploits require someone to target you personally, at least in this case. Not a single serious cyber criminal will ever target 7gods, and seething linux trannies from /g/ are too incompetent for that.

Gee moves way too fast, and it's mostly bs.

>>107090157
It just won't start and you'll be late for work, genius.

>>107104665
And that's a good thing?

I don't install untrusted software

>>107090993
Why not both, genius?

>>107092215
>always online
Windows 7 doesn't have this problem. Even linux is chained to to the updoot teet.

>>107101056
Some of these steps are very marginal but thanks for posting an exhaustive list to kill the botnet schizo.

>>107101061
To protect the children.

>>107101213
Was gonna say this
The insurance thing is a giveaway.
Insurance follows the car generally, nearly all policies allow anyone who is licensed to drive that vehicle with permission.
Insurance demanding someone be added for one trip is bullshit

>>107089944 (OP)
Honestly at this point there's only 3 things holding windows 7 back
>drivers
Sucks for the absolutely newest hardware, but you can still use Ryzen 9000 single CCD CPUs alongside an RTX 3090ti or an RX 6950xt and get plenty of power.
>dx12 support
Some of this you can get around with an old version of DXVK. But also at least one of the newer Vxkex devs is working on d3d12on7.
>TLS v1.3
There's already a lot of services that lock you out on Windows 7 because of this, but you can get around it with a proxy server hosted on a separate win10 or linux PC
And as far as security, anon above already said basically everything you need to do
As long as you don't need to run Office 365 PhoneHome Edition or the latest UE5 slop game, you can still get anything you want done on Windows 7.

>too poor to upgrade hardware for 11
>too retarded for Linux
These are the only reasons people use out of support versions of Windows. Older versions are objectively worse.

>>107090060
>biometric data such as voice and facial recognition.
My Audi uses voice commands and can detect who is speaking and where they are in the car. "Increase the heater" will work for the person speaking it, regardless of their position in the car.
It's cool, but also frightening.

>>107089944 (OP)
>Modern cars are a privacy nightmare
I never owned a car
Just only bicycle

>>107108336
>these files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities
The police already do this in my area. They immediately knew who I was when they stopped me over on my bike and demanded my ID.

>>107089944 (OP)
>Any Win7gods ever have any issues with viruses, malware, ransomware etc?
I never got infected by viruses on my real PC

>>107108082
>one of the newer Vxkex devs is working on d3d12on7
7GODS WON

>>107108082
damn, 7 has problems with Ryzen arch or something?

>>107089944 (OP)
Windows 7 is the most secure operating system made by Microsoft

>>107111381
That's OS/2.

>>107111437
>That's OS/2.
You are wrong.

As long as I don't talk shit about Putin, I will probably be fine.

>>107101342
The camera in the steering wheel pointed directly at your face.

>>107112348
hidden feature purely for "anti-theft" reasons.

>>107090060
>>107089944 (OP)
Dumb question but how are they getting this information? Transmitting data through your phone?

If that's the case then only using non cellular devices to connect for music you should be clear?

Windows 7 is pure GOD operating system and it's actually more secure than Windows 11 and loonix

>>107101213
>e, but its not privacy invading because these technologies are all on vehicle hardware that detects whether the driver is attentive to driving or not
How does it tell if you're attentive?

>>107090993
>It's proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the elite want a neo-feudal technocratic panopticon, see the Great Reset, digital ID
And that all ultimately serves to make them more money and to protect their sources of money.

>>107112637
infrared cameras that can track your face and eyeball movements
pretty simple stuff for 2025 really

>>107094791
he's right though

>>107096290
Aanon, there are actively maintained web browsers for Windows 95.

>>107112681
>2GB of RAM

>>107112384
there's built in mics above the driver's head somewhere

>>107112675
Anon, that's a privacy invasion.

>>107108122
What's better about Windows 11?

>>107112751
11>10
It's basic math, anon. Which is why Windows 2000 is the best OS ever.

>>107112737
Doesn't have to be.
For a system that is expected to have a decade+ lifetime, it would be difficult to actually have any recording medium.

>>107112751
>What's better about Windows 11?
It's actually Windows 10 with a new skin.

>>107112789
They don't expect you to use them for a decade plus. They expect you to get it on payments, drive it for 3-5 years, then trade it for a new one. They start breaking down if you keep them longer than that. That's enough time for a 256GB SD card to store 360p footage of you recorded when you're driving. If it does run out of space it'll just overwrite the old files. More likely they just stream the footage using the same service they collect the rest of the telemetry with.

Having a camera pointed at your face is inherently a privacy violation.

>>107112796
What's better about Windows 10?

>>107094288
This is true. Anons, please use outdated operating systems and hardware with no concern for security patches. You totally aren't making it really easy for bad actors to ship malware to you, no sir it is perfectly safe.

>>107112858
Windows 8.1 done right with more telemetry and ads and it's more resource-intensive than Windows 8.1

>>107112751
Better performance and support on newer hardware
More optimized from background task sleeping
Nicer looking ui
Better task manager
Dark mode
Better window snapping
Centered taskbar
Security support
Better developer and power user tools

Again, there is absolutely no reason to use an out of support version of windows unless you are destitute and/or too retarded for linux.

>>107113533
>Better performance
no
>support on newer hardware
fair
>Nicer looking ui
Lmao, no
>Better task manager
Fair, but the performance monitor (accessible in the task manager) mogs both
>Dark mode
You can use dark themes on any windows version. Even 95 lets you change the window background color.
>Better window snapping
fair
>Centered taskbar
That's a bad thing
>Security support
meme
>Better developer and power user tools
such as?

>>107089992
It did, the State of Texas sued GM, and won.

>>107099890
>Easiest way to deal with this is to find the antenna(s) that allow the car to connect to the internet and break them. This will leave all the software in the car intact and probably not brick your car... Yet.
Ideally, identify the telematics unit and remove it. That might brick, if the manufacturer was a dick. Merely disconnecting the telematics antenna would still result in EM radiation potentially strong enough to communicate to a very close cell tower, or at the minimum it will be transmitting the car's IMEI in close range for snooping sensors on the road to detect and log.

>>107101213
Oh I see, you are CorpoBot B and you are replying to CorpoBot A. Got it!

>>107113887
>no
yes
>Lmao, no
Windows 11 is objectively better looking than previous releases. Flat is whack, especially without any textures.
>Fair, but the performance monitor (accessible in the task manager) mogs both
Not sure why you're talking about another tool. 11s task manager is better than other task managers by a mile.
>You can use dark themes on any windows version. Even 95 lets you change the window background color.
Not even remotely to the same quality or support.
>That's a bad thing
Centered task bar is objectively better, especially with the rise of ultrawides and the start menu opens centered.
>meme
Not an argument.

Again, I haven't seen a single reason to use an out of support version of windows that cannot be summarised as being destitute or too retarded for Linux.

>>107093104
Alertness is defined by lane keeping in most cars. If you cross the lane dings your attention score.

>>107113887
>Better developer and power user tools
Winget built in and enabled by default
WSL enabled by default
Dev home / disk virtualisation built in and enabled
Windows terminal

>>107093198
>>107101313
you first fweetards

>>107115680
>Windows 11 is objectively better looking than previous releases
It is somehow even uglier than 10, which was already an aggressively soulless design.

>Flat is whack, especially without any textures
Windows 11 is also flatshit. Its just flatshit with rounded corners and more wasted space.

>Not even remotely to the same quality or support.
You can change the color, size, and font of basically any UI element in Windows versions prior to 8. This is XP's classic theme, but 7's works much the same way. The only things that lacked dark mode were third party software, which isn't the OS's fault, and even then good software would just use the system's color scheme.

>Centered task bar is objectively better
no its not. 30 years of muscle memory down the drain, the most important part of the screen completely obscured, the task bar bisected by the button.

>ultrawides
Also a bad thing, forcing you to crane your head to see things on the left or right side of the screen, and making you drag the mouse for miles to access anything. And if its not wide enough to force you to do those things, then its not wide enough to need a centered task bar

>Not an argument.
I'm saying its a nothing point. It adds nothing of worth to the system

>>107115714
Those are all already available on Windows 7
>but muh default
they're for power users. Big boys can install their own programs.

>>107090837
>fitgirl/dodi in the case of games
you can add gog-games.to to your list
in fact, you should probably look there first, because GOG installers are digitally signed, meaning there's no way to get malware unless the legit installer from GOG is compromised (slim chance)
just check that the installer executable is signed before you run it, and you're good to go. larger games will come with a bunch of *.bin files next to the installer. these can't be signed, so you also need to make sure to check "Check file integrity before installation" within the installer

>>107093645
it's destroying birth rates in the west, where people still feel shame and desire discretion

For the record, I believe the person in OP if telling the truth likely opted in to an insurance program to track them. My agent offered this to me, and I declined. That kinda is where we're going though.

If the climate cult has their way, we'll phase out driving almost entirely. Why would you let humand drive dangerous machines if they can be made self driving?

>>107115680
>objectively
retard

>>107115893
>It is somehow even uglier than 10, which was already an aggressively soulless design.
Windows 11 is objectively better looking than previous releases.

>Windows 11 is also flatshit. Its just flatshit with rounded corners and more wasted space.
Rounded corners. Better animations. Textured surfaces. Gradients. Better dark mode support. Depth. Its objectively better than anything before.

>You can change the color, size, and font of basically any UI element in Windows versions prior to 8. This is XP's classic theme, but 7's works much the same way. The only things that lacked dark mode were third party software, which isn't the OS's fault, and even then good software would just use the system's color scheme.
11 still looks better.

>no its not. 30 years of muscle memory down the drain, the most important part of the screen completely obscured, the task bar bisected by the button.
What muscle memory? You hit the windows button on hour keyboard and it's now centered. Objectively an improvement, especially on ultra sides.

>Also a bad thing, forcing you to crane your head to see things on the left or right side of the screen, and making you drag the mouse for miles to access anything. And if its not wide enough to force you to do those things, then its not wide enough to need a centered task bar
The same complaints exist on multi monitor. Ultrawides are objectively and improvement for any non-retard who multitasks.

>I'm saying its a nothing point. It adds nothing of worth to the system
An os being secure and supported has value anon. Don't act like those retards being baited into thinking out of support OS's are cool. It's no different to being baited into thinking microwaves charge your phone.

>>107115902
No they aren't.

>>107116561
cry more, fag

>>107094288
Especially funny when the "security" updates ends up opening backdoors because Microjeets literally don't fucking care.

>>107117159
Why are you gay sperg

>>107117149
>Better developer and power user tools
So did you just change your mind about that?

>>107117144
>Windows 11 is objectively better looking than previous releases.
No its not

>Rounded corners. Better animations. Textured surfaces. Gradients. Better dark mode support. Depth. Its objectively better than anything before
Looks the same to me

>What muscle memory?
on windows 95-7 and 10
>flick mouse to bottom left
>it stops on the left screen border
>press start
>click on item you want
on windows 11
>press start
>actively stop yourself from going down and to the left
>instead look on screen where you're supposed to go and slowly drag your mouse over to it to not overshoot

> it's now centered.
that's the most inconvenient place on the screen to put it. It gets in the way of everything while also being difficult to snap to due to a lack of hard barriers stopping you from over shooting.

>The same complaints exist on multi monitor
That's what alt tab and window resizing are for. And if you absolutely must have more screenspace, multiple desktops do the same function better.

>An os being secure and supported has value anon
Not nearly as much as people claim it does

>Don't act like those retards being baited into thinking out of support OS's are cool
Its not bait, it really is cool. Shows you know enough to not fall for fear mongering and don't let corporations and dev teams control you.

>>107117540
>>on windows 95-7 and 10
>flick mouse to bottom left
>it stops on the left screen border
>press start
>click on item you want
There isn't a single reason to "click" the start button. Windows 8 did right to remove it from the task bar.

>that's the most inconvenient place on the screen to put it. It gets in the way of everything while also being difficult to snap to due to a lack of hard barriers stopping you from over shooting.
It's a launcher. Wtf are you using the start menu for?

>That's what alt tab and window resizing are for. And if you absolutely must have more screenspace, multiple desktops do the same function better.
I don't need to alt tab and I don't need to fuck around with virtual desktops because I have actual screen real estate. If you aren't multitasking you might as well swap your PC for a tablet lmao

>Its not bait, it really is cool. Shows you know enough to not fall for fear mongering and don't let corporations and dev teams control you.
Its not cool. You are no different to kids being baited into microwaving their phones. There is nothing challenging, interesting, or rewarding about opening yourself up to vulnerabilities.

>>107089992
It didn't happen. If you live in the same house with a teenager the insurance company automatically assumes that the teenager will be driving your car at some point and your rates go up.

>>107117818
>There isn't a single reason to "click" the start button.
NTA but it's the fastest way to open a program if you don't have eyes on the desktop icon.

>>107089944 (OP)
The only issues I have is that I need to put more and more effort to make stuff like yt-dl work.
Recently I had to do some trickery to install Python 3.10 (which is not supported on 7 anymore) and newest Windows 10 SDKs to solve missing dlls errors, but I managed to get everything working.
But I'm afraid soon it will become too much pain in the ass to maintain.

>>107117875
You push the windows key on your keyboard and type it. Wtf are you doing?

>>107118050
My hand is already on the mouse. A quick flick the to the bottom left and you're there.
>type it
Ok grandma. That takes for ever. ClickGODS open programs in microseconds.

>>107118073
Start menu actually sucks for quickly opening programs. You need several clicks and scrolling to find what you need. Best way by far is quick launch toolbar.

>>107092154
>protect yourself from malware
>by voluntarily installing our closed-source black box (((security))) software
bruh...

>>107118123
>You need several clicks and scrolling to find what you need.
By default the W7 start menu lists 10 programs.

>>107112348
And how would that identify what my name is and where I live and what my relation to the driver is?

>>107094791
xp has less security vulnerabilities than modern windows

>>107118073
>My hand is already on the mouse.
Both of them??
Holy shit I can't believe people are clicking the start button LMAO.

>>107118073
>typing one letter takes forever
I think a macbook is a more suitable product for a retard like you

>>107089944 (OP)
insurance companies dont know who is connected to your car's bluetooth
if someone manages to hack it you can sue them

>>107118185
Graphical UI is an FPS game. You're hear playing typing trainer.

>>107118123
start screen from newer windows is the superior solution
you basically get a desktop-sized quicklaunch menu with better organizing possibilities

but as far as speed goes, the absolute fastest way is pinning applications to the taskbar and then using winkey+[number] to start the [number]th pinned app. but it's limited to only as many apps as you have numbers on your keyboard

>>107118179
>Both of them??
I have one hand holding the mouse and the other hand free for balance, like riding a horse.

>>107118203
7chad right here

>>107118156
You've already got a publicly accessible profile with your face, name, address, phone number, email addresses, card numbers, and even a list of locations you've been to in the past month.
Blame those cancerous social apps you keep using.

>>107117818
>There isn't a single reason to "click" the start button.
I didn't say I clicked the icon. I just put my mouse in the general area for fast access. The button is just for boomers who can't into hotkeys.

>It's a launcher. Wtf are you using the start menu for?
Usually I have other programs running that I also like to keep track of while I'm using.

> If you aren't multitasking you might as well swap your PC for a tablet lmao
Who said I wasn't? I very often do have an IDE, a web browser, a music player, and three different file folders open at once, and I do it all on a single 4:3 monitor.

>being baited
I wasn't baited into shit. I've always done this. I was using XP and 7 years before /g/ started shilling it.

>There is nothing challenging, interesting, or rewarding
Then you do it. Go take your PC, shove it in a closet for a month, and exclusively use a Core 2 Duo machine from 2006 running XP, and do all of the tasks you do on your current machine on it.

>>107118215
I don't have any social media accounts nor do I post anything personal or identifiable online

>>107118215
No I don't

>>107118123
The mouse is pretty good for getting to any file folder on the system quickly.

>>107118240
If you've got an ID then you have a profile.

>>107118223
>Usually I have other programs running that I also like to keep track of while I'm using.
Using what? The start menu? For what? Having it centered is perfect. It's right there dead centre without having to move your head.

>Who said I wasn't? I very often do have an IDE, a web browser, a music player, and three different file folders open at once, and
You said you're alt tabbing between. It's called Windows, not window lmao.
>I do it all on a single 4:3 monitor.
Holy poverty lmao

>I wasn't baited into shit. I've always done this. I was using XP and 7 years before /g/ started shilling it.
Why? I've never heard a single reason that cannot be boiled down to be destitute or too retarded for Linux.

>Then you do it. Go take your PC, shove it in a closet for a month, and exclusively use a Core 2 Duo machine from 2006 running XP, and do all of the tasks you do on your current machine on it.
Why would I? Using an objectively worse OS and hardware confers absolutely zero real world benefit. You learn nothing.

>>107118671
>Using what
A web browser or VLC with a video playing, maybe an explorer window open so I can tell where a file or folder is, maybe some notes I need to read.

>It's right there dead centre without having to move your head
I don't have to move my head to look at the start menu.

>You said you're alt tabbing between.
I'm not gonna keep all of those things tiled. Some of them need to be maximized to use properly, like the IDE or the web browser. The folders, media player, and any notes I'm reading would be in small windows.

>Holy poverty lmao
I have four sixteen by nine monitors. I just don't use them. They're too wide. Take up too much horizontal desk space and introduce the previously mentioned mouse movement and head craning problems.

>Why? I've never heard a single reason that cannot be boiled down to be destitute or too retarded for Linux.
I don't like the way Linux operates. Its designed to be updated constantly, draw all its software from a single online repository, and lock everything behind strict UAC. I prefer the lack of security and lack of updates on XP. I can use software from the early 90s if I feel like it on XP, I can't even find Linux software from the early 90s if I want to, let alone install, and heaven forbid I try to run it on a modern distro. I can keep all my software backed up on a single CD that I don't even need to install from to run said software. I don't need to worry about permissions. I don't need to do tedious troubleshooting (not that I can't. I have done it on my Linux machine, and that's how I know its asinine. Manually adding edid configurations to xorg.conf is awful)

>Why would I?
To prove you're not a liar mostly. You said there is no challenge, but clearly there is if you're unwilling to try it.

>You learn nothing.
You learn how to operate new platforms that you haven't worked with, and how to do more with less.

>>107118789
>I don't have to move my head to look at the start menu.
Neither do I.

>I'm not gonna keep all of those things tiled. Some of them need to be maximized to use properly, like the IDE or the web browser. The folders, media player, and any notes I'm reading would be in small windows.
Yeah which is why ultrawides are superior. You can tile more and it's superior for multitasking

>I have four sixteen by nine monitors. I just don't use them. They're too wide. Take up too much horizontal desk space and introduce the previously mentioned mouse movement and head craning problems.
Just push the monitor back lmao I have an 21:9 centered and 16:9 to the side and I barely move my head

>I don't like the way Linux operates. Its designed to be updated constantly
No you update when you decide
>draw all its software from a single online repository
No you can add repos
>and lock everything behind strict UAC.
Knowing when something wants elevated privileges is basic tech literacy.
>I prefer the lack of security and lack of updates on XP. I can use software from the early 90s if I feel like it on XP
What software doesn't work and has no workarounds on 11?

>To prove you're not a liar mostly. You said there is no challenge, but clearly there is if you're unwilling to try it.
You havent given a single reason why there is value in doing that.

>You learn how to operate new platforms that you haven't worked with, and how to do more with less.
No, you're doing workarounds for problems you created for yourself that teaches you nothing.

>>107118903
>You can tile more and it's superior for multitasking
Alt tabbing is enough. I can't read two things at once, so it makes little difference whether the text is filling a whole 4:3 monitor, or half an ultrawide.

>Just push the monitor back lmao
I'm 6 feet away from my monitor right now.

>No you update when you decide
Shit drops support for old packages and OS versions fast, and its hard to find old software once the repositories remove it or go down. Enjoy dependency hunting for a ten year old program.

>No you can add repos
Still means I have to use repos.

>but you can make your own repos
Which is a lot of work for something I can do in ten seconds on Windows.

>Knowing when something wants elevated privileges is basic tech literacy.
No shit I know, I just don't like it. Its easier if everything operates with max privileges and never has to ask for them. I know how to avoid bricking my system and not to run obvious malware, so I don't want things baby proofed like I don't.

>What software doesn't work and has no workarounds on 11?
I was talking about Linux. I don't use Windows 11 because of Telemetry (spies and wastes network and system resources), resource wasting, useless AI bloat, lack of hardware support, online account requirement. the centered task bar, the settings menu, the ugly ass UI, and the lack of proper theming support.

>You havent given a single reason why there is value in doing that.
So you concede that there is a challenge in doing it then.

>No, you're doing workarounds for problems you created for yourself that teaches you nothing.
All challenges are that. You handicap yourself on purpose so you can learn to work more efficiently to compensate for the handicap. Its like doing one handed push ups.

>>107119026
>Alt tabbing is enough. I can't read two things at once, so it makes little difference whether the text is filling a whole 4:3 monitor, or half an ultrawide.
Its not enough, its inferior to tab between windows.

>Shit drops support for old packages and OS versions fast, and its hard to find old software once the repositories remove it or go down. Enjoy dependency hunting for a ten year old program.
I don't understand this obsession with old software

>Its easier if everything operates with max privileges and never has to ask for them. I know how to avoid bricking my system and not to run obvious malware, so I don't want things baby proofed like I don't.
Yeah it's easier, but it's also retarded.

>So you concede that there is a challenge in doing it then.
Its not a challenge, its trivial to do.

>You handicap yourself on purpose so you can learn to work more efficiently to compensate for the handicap. Its like doing one handed push ups.
You aren't learning anything. You aren't improving something. You aren't being efficient. It's choosing to live your life like you're disabled.

>>107119073
>I don't understand this obsession with old software
A lot of the time newer versions of programs are worse. They use more resources, remove features, add unnecessary ones, and can mess with the UI.

>Yeah it's easier, but it's also retarded.
Works on my machine, and has done so for years.

>>107119073
>You aren't learning anything
I've learned a lot doing it.

>>107089944 (OP)
Easy fix,
Locate the sim card.
Take it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn6i_oBA1lk

>>107119176
>A lot of the time newer versions of programs are worse. They use more resources, remove features, add unnecessary ones, and can mess with the UI.
Name some
>Works on my machine, and has done so for years.
It doesn't work though. Allowing binaries to run with unchecked elevation is inexcusable.
>I've learned a lot doing it.
And yet you couldn't substantiate that with a single example? If anything, you've demonstrated the opposite lmao.

is there a way to secure windows 7 machine?

>>107119569
Aside from disconnecting it from the internet? No

>>107119559
>And yet you couldn't substantiate that with a single example?
I've leaned a lot about media piracy and getting media locally. I didn't know the first thing about yt-dlp or how to rip media streams from web pages before I started using a machine that couldn't stream video in the browser. I didn't know about About:config and user agent spoofing either. I didn't know about using ffmpeg encoding before I was forced to use it to recode av1 videos into something my cpu can decode at a decent speed. I've learned quite a lot of windows shell commands and am much better with the Windows and DOS command prompts.

>Name some
There are lot of nice looking windows managers for Linux I wanted to use, but couldn't because they haven't been updated in a decade or two, meanwhile the new versions use one hundred times as much ram and cpu while looking like shit. Those being KDE, XFCE, and Gnome. Audacity is currently killing itself with a major redesign, and this is after it already added telemetry. Blender continues to remove features like its game engine or CUDA support for older GPUs while constantly hiking RAM usage. In terms of Windows programs Free Download Manager went to shit, Word went to shit as well.

>It doesn't work though
I repeat again, it works on machine. I haven't gotten pwned yet, despite doing this for15 years.

>>107119569
See >>107101056

>>107119569
A working NAT and the Simplix Update Pack to fix that wifi vulnerability.

>>107115930
>digitally signed
Absolutely meaningless. I've installed modded Chinese drivers (modded as in the actual .sys file got patched, not just .inf) which were completely signed and showed up as legit. The fact is that signing keys get leaked. The whole "digital signature" nonsense is security theater.

This is a north american problem though. Destroy america.

America and western Europe and their "culture" are a cancer on the world
>expensive rent
>expensive food
>can't afford a home
>can't afford an apartment
>can't afford to save money
>can't afford to have insurance
>can't afford to copy video games online
>invaders get to have your free shit

Funny how NONE of these problems exist and everyone is doing just fine in places like romania, serbia, hungary, georgia.

Funny how if you just leave american aligned countries, your life just gets better and improves drastically for no reason at all.....

>>107119537
>man forced to live in cuck RV and cant afford land or a real home
>can't afford a future or a place that you can do whatever you want with

Land of the free and rich BTW. NUKE AMERICA, DESTROY AMERICA.

America and Canada have no right to exist. They are cancerous tumors that need to be cut off immediately.

>>107089944 (OP)
Nah

>>107091105
>>107104665
>out in the middle of nowhere
>no signal for anything
>uhh achully your car will be bricked
use your brain nigger

>>107118237
good try, but you're clearly boromir

>>107115893
rainy day was peak

>>107111493
>write "putin is a cunt" in a text file and save it to a random directory on your c drive
>browse the internet as normal
>suddenly one day, you get a knock on the door and the police came to arrest you for talking shit about putin
wouldn't that be funny haha

>>107089992
It's a known fact, everyone's selling and buying your data, it's also known that insurance companies use it to swindle you
That's why I use Aura, use my referral link to get a 10% discount for the first 3 months

>>107089944 (OP)
no issues
I suggest everyone to use Win10 LTSC - the best up to date windows, support for many more years, and you can disable all the garbage and spyware there.

And pass the word around - more people should know that they dont have to bend over for spydows 11, they can still use 10 for many years