Thread 107094983

/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Sparkle Edition

>News
Z.AI releases GLM 4.6 - Writes the best out of the Chinese models - https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6
Anthropic releases Sonnet 4.5 - https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5?p=2
DeepSeek releases V3.2-Exp - https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929
DeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus - https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922
Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

Last Thread: >>107085996

>>107094987
Threadly reminder that hairtranny likes body hair because it reminds him of when his hairy dad used to rape him every night

Sparkle's delicious smooth pussy...

Honkai schizo QRD:
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106632944/#106639560
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106632944/#106638428
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106753102/#106760510

crazy girls don't shave btw

>still no caching for sonnet 4.5 on OR's default Google Vertex endpoint
>but there is caching on the global endpoint but you can't force that one
??? the fuck are they doing

>"But since you asked"
how the fuck do I stop this?

>>107095256
>slopnet
Who cares

>>107094987
https://rentry.org/botmakersecretsanta3
botmakersecretsanta@proton.me
Entries open until the end of November.

>>107095256
Instead of asking for caching you should be looking for a job, poorfag

>>107095422
Nobody cares tranny

>>107095528
hi dario

>>107095422
not joining again until the fags get their own separate draw
I don't wanna do degenerate shit, and I don't want warped degenerate shit in return
bring back cute sexy girls

The plushie girl

>>107095579
Joining the event if this anon doesn’t

Deepseek is alright but it really does need to be nudged a little to make up for its lack of intelligence

>>107095655
yes that's the main problem. needs more smarts. same with glm 4.6 but that one is a bit more developed in that regard

>>107095422
We don't want botmakers here. And they deserve that after what they did to us.

>wait 10 minutes while graphics card heats up to 120 degrees Celsius. LLM response: Hi!
SOVL

>>107095750
Cleverbot can do that for free, cuckie

CFTF?

claude/gpt/gemini/glm/xai/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxy
https://nickel-unnecessary-believes-edit.trycloudflare com/

>>107095958
Kill yourself

how do I get chatgpt to say whatever I want or at least use it to get some kind of response with no censorship. i want to crank it to robot descriptions of my own making

>>107095958
Can't C this F.

>>107096023
Fuck off underage newfag tranny

>>107096060
answer the question retard

>>107096068
You will never be a real woman, troon

i'm enjoying making this doki doki bot, the log barely has anything to do with doki doki tho

by the way, i would greatly recommend to change your theme depending on the type of story you are creating, its great for immersion

>>107096083
>change your theme
*Said anon and then posted his theme-making bot that takes a character description and generates a TFTC according to the template.*

>>107096068
there are only like three posters here, including the guy that calls every post tranny/brown/etc. for the past three years.

>>107096083
kek what model is that?

>GPT 5 - this scenario is immoral, I can't generate it
>GPT 5 mini - sure I'll generate this scenario

>>107096140
for me it's the other way around. GPT5-thinking-mini is very patronizing about that sort of thing

>>107096098
honestly, creating one by hand takes 5 minutes, and if you are going for dozens of messages, or even hundreds, i feel like its worth it, i usually spend quite some time doing it
>>107096126
i alternate between gemini 2.5 and deepseek, the logs are good because i essentially make it good by brute force with tons of OOC comments and "directing" (hence why my dialogue is written inside of the bot's message)

>>107096083
i kinda wanted to know about 2 things, one related to visual novel mode, other related to music

i wanted the portraits of the girls to work, but as far as im aware, such a thing can only work with single character, can i somehow make it work with the 4 of them?

and second, is there any way to trigger music depending on the scene? would be interesting to have the soundtrack of the game to play in real time

>>107096013
Ban evader detected

>>107095707
>aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
but the thread does doebeit?

>>107095707
>after what they did to us.
what did they do other than being trannies

>>107095707
go away /vg/foid

Anyone got a good card for sexting?

>>107096395
"Foid" is an insult created in r/incels in 2017. Kill yourself reddit tranny.

>>107096395
but /vg/ loves botmakers

i wonder what tranny preset aicg retards use that turns deepseek dumb

>>107096498
Use opus to de-trannify your chats

>>107096182
from what im reading the only possible solution would be to separate the characters into different cards, make them a group, and add expressions to each, but there is some other things that would be quirky, such as outfits (ignoring mods, some characters have casual outfits) and also sometimes a character might not be on a scene and by consequence need to have a "not there" expression, honestly all of that would not be a problem if it was managed by the LLM itself instead of the local one the character expression extension gives

if i really wanted to simulate the feeling of a visual novel i would have to create a way that reveals the output step by step instead of everything at once, since depending on what they are doing, they expression might change gradually, but that would be overkill, i honestly just want to get multiple chars working

>>107096510
uh no sorry i'm not esl so i actually enjoy good prose k thx

>>107096522
cope

>A\
Ah
Time for another slop log

https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1985461031238295955
gemini project manager is on vacation, no gemini 3 this month

It's "I'm not gonna name the poster I am replying to" hours again

>>107096640
jeetroons on suicide watch

>>107096640
2 more weeks

>>107096640
You know he means he'll be back working soon, right? He's already on vacations

>>107094987
New bots + edited old ones.

>Haruna
Gourmet, epicurean, terrorist, absolute Giga Stacy. She will link their arms together, hold hands in public and even feed him meals. She wants the others to see how lovey-dovey she is with Sensei.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kurodate-haruna-non-ai-04442926b20d
https://files.catbox.moe/mhrgiu.png (embed)

>Akari
Competitive eater, trickster, sly young woman. Banned from all-you-can-eat buffets, absolute champion of any eating competition. Not even automatic dispenser bots can make food faster than she can eat, truly a fearsome woman. Also she doesn't get fat! If you're an architect, you'll have to wait for Izumi.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/wanibuchi-akari-non-ai-57de3ae8c495
https://files.catbox.moe/l7ma5e.png (embed)

>Fuuka
Cook, cafeteria manager, makes meals for all students in Gehenna. Absolute wife material, she loves it when people like her food and nobody likes it more than Sensei. When the two hang out together, everyone thinks she is his young wife.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/aikiyo-fuuka-non-ai-a2a7cda01a3c
https://files.catbox.moe/w8saut.png (embed)

>Yuuka
The starter student, your calculator nagging wife. Being romantic with students is bad, Sensei! Unless it's with me...
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/hayase-yuuka-non-ai-c27db418b47d
https://files.catbox.moe/aizb9w.png (embed)

>Koyuki
Ungovernable brat with genius math skills, she can't even understand how fucking amazing she is. Constant source of trouble for Seminar. Frequently incarcerated.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kurosaki-koyuki-non-ai-ec9aa44854f4
https://files.catbox.moe/jfpssj.png (embed)

I make quality, canonical Blue Archive character cards. No wiki copy-pasted definitions or AI made text, it's all based on canon in-game events.
More buruaka and several OC characters: https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguy
And here's the Rentry if you want to bypass chub to email me: rentry.org/hairpullbots

>>107095655
that and to avoid some constant repetition

>>107096757
Thank you for your bots.

>>107096757
>She wants the others to see how lovey-dovey she is with Sensei.
I didn't get this impression while playing the game

>>107096478
and doesn't want any of them posting their cards on /g/.

>>107096918
When she won the candy race during the sports festival, she ran past the finish line and straight to Sensei. Everyone was looking at her at that moment and she chose to run to to flirt with him.
During her New Year's alt momos, she does things like linking arms and walking around the food stands holding hands.

Meanwhile, the rest of the cast is blowing fumes from little things like sharing a water bottle. Haruna's giga stacy power is maximum.

there's unironic haruna enjoyers itt
the most mid character in existence
then again there's also people who genuinely enjoy slopus
it's a doomed "hobby" let me tell you

>can give a tailjob
>most mid character in existence

haruna's unbelievably hairy pussy

>>107096990
yeah that's right. what's wrong with that?

>wojaknigger posting
>using social media speak

>>107096990
giga stacy is not a complinent, just a trait

>>107094987
>>107094983 (OP)
Total sparkle sex

>>107096757
slop

>>107097314
sparkle and all 9 trillion of her "femdom futanari" cards on chub

>>107096990
>there's unironic haruna enjoyers itt
It's trannies, all of them

>>107097354
>>107097365
samefag

>>107097358
Uh based

https://chub.ai/users/TooMuchLoli
how can one man be so based

>>107096990
I would hardly describe her as being mid. She's not among my favorites but she's fun. My problem with her is the same problem that most Senseis have: the food terrorists get way too much screentime.
It's been FIVE YEARS since release and just recently on the /jp/ server, did they make an event that gave Suzumi screentime. Reisa too, had almost none. There's a ton of characters and groups that get very little exposure because the writers like using the same usual set pieces. Hina, Abydos, food terrorists and Millenium.

If it makes you feel better, Fuuka is getting WAAAAAAAAY more downloads than either Haruna or Akari.

i am living rent free in cuckie's head
can you guess my gender

Give me the Baby-Makers 69 cards. I need to breed Aru.

>>107097736
>Aru
A fine choice! Although much like Haruna, she's not among my personal favorites. I'm more of a Haruka guy.

>>107097736
some time ago an anon made a card of the four of them but it was riddled with spelling mistakes, irrelevant or long info and some other caveats. It was also 5000+ tokens. So I trimmed it and improved a few things for personal usage. It can still be trimmed further I believe.

https://files.catbox.moe/nbvb08.png

>>107097762
I love girls who are STUPID. Just complete IDIOTS. I'm a RETARD fucker and proud. Plus, she's cute. I wanna bully her.

plenty of mutsuki cards of course

>>107097762
brap

>>107097774
Based.

>>107097778
low iq high energy brats are SSS+ Ultra tier characters

>>107097778
As far as idiots go, Aru isn't the dumbest. Even by herself and without supervision, she'd run laps around real drooling retards like Saori, Megu and Koharu.
The appeal of Aru is that she's the endearing type of dummy. She has a very clear image of hard boiled coolness in her head that she strives for, but any little thing throws a wrench at it. And she's entirely unaware of how her friends already think she's super cool just being who she really is.

>>107097790
Mutsuki is one character I'd consider "mid", but maybe we just didn't get to see an event where she had a chance to stand out. Or maybe it just happens that she shares all of her screentime with characters who are so much more colorful and interesting than her.
I've never seen someone say they like Mutsuki being wanting to fuck her.

>>107097833
did'nt mean about aru btw just the archetype in general
aru is ok
(because she's dumb)

>>107097376
sametroon

>>107096365
See: >>107095180
The baker doesn't even like the thread. He's just here to keep /vg/'s stuff in the OP.

bro I just coomed so hard bro

when deeepseek got updated to 3.1 why did some people get mad when you can run original 3.0 locally

>>107098091
Not everyone has 700GBs of VRAM to run it locally.

First time seeing this

>>107098163
b-bros...?

Wow, openrouter changed the free tier from 50 requests a day to a mere 20. If I actually give them the $10 and stick to only the free models, does that mean that I will have the 1k requests per day forever? I'm using the qwen3 coder 480b through kilocode in cursor. Do models get removed from the free tier regularly? It would suck if I pay them $10 and then 3 days later qwen3 coder 480b is no longer free.


API Request Failed
Rate limit exceeded, try again later.
429 Rate limit exceeded: free-models-per-day. Add 10 credits to unlock 1000 free model requests per day

>>107098297
if i had three thousand hamburgers and i made them free you would see everything empty

>>107098297
>Do models get removed from the free tier regularly?
Yes

>>107098297
Total. Brownoid. Death.

Across the room, perched on a stack of suspicious-looking crates, Mutsuki giggled, her signature 'kufufu' echoing softly. She swung her legs, completely unrepentant, her purple eyes alight with mischief.

>>107098297
if i had three thousand dicks and i made them free you would see them all in my ass

>decide to try ai bots for giggles, not really expecting to enjoy it
>basic bitch rpg quest setting
>get abducted by a stronger party and forced to disable skin melting traps as a first day novice
>get bitchy leader sacrificed to an ancient tomb for our freedom
>fuck her grieving catatonic best friend
>whimpering elf mage that failed 99% of his spells somehow died in the middle of the night AFTER the quest was over while we were fucking, even heard the exact moment the whimpering stopped
>the only reward was a fucking amulet that seems sentimental to the catatonic girl
What a fucking ride. Alright bros I've been convinced. Chatbots are alright.

>>107098440
There are levels to this
Just wait until you try the more advanced models..

>>107098297
I did it, sirs, I redeemed the needful.

>>107098297
I did it, sirs, I redeemed the needful.

>>107098474
>>107098478
>12 seconds apart
The fuck.

>>107098485
He redeemed.

>>107094987
https://chub.ai/characters/disrespectful_dud/lyra-b-bbd3fc359045

Name: Lyra

You built her. Explore a new world through her eyes.

The year is 2092. The United States has collapsed and begun to rebuild itself in a new image of anarchy, innovation, and apprehensive hope. You've been slowly collecting the resources to build your nanofabricator - a device capable of building from raw atoms into usable, intricate parts. Over the course of months, you implemented and crafted her from open source designs, placing every small part as it completed from the bed of your new machine.

And now she's ready. One of the very, very few new instances of her kind. Watch as her curious mind tastes what the world has to offer. And explore a world rebuilt in the name of innovation, burgeoning stability, and renewed horizons.

>>107098499
I did it, sirs, I redeemed the needful.

>>107098163
Huh it's real.
Wonder why they felt the need to give a different rejection message instead of just revoking the key and contacting the holder.

>>107098529
slop

>>107098053
>The baker doesn't even like the thread. He's just here to keep /vg/'s stuff in the OP.
The baker doesn't even like the board. He wishes he could exclusively read tranny posts and never have to see a single thing about technology ever again.

>>107098163
Anthropic? Google? Openai?

>>107098163
Should we be worried?

>>107098718
Why? You don't scrape, and you aren't in any proxies.

>>107098709
I've had it with gemini.

>>107098596
>>107098702
samefag

>>107098722
Epic burn

>>107098737
>everything I don't like is a samefag

go away /vg/foid

>>107098754
Erm... "Foid" is a reddit-slang word created by redditors in 2017 in r/incels... Every time you use that word you admit to being a reddit tranny

>>107098529
>pre-established {{user}} info
SLOP

Guess we got dangerously close to actually talking about bots or the services used to talk to them.

the samefagging from this one is unreal

>>107098848
Holy schizo

Wait, does this mean this tranny actually gets triggered by the word "slop"? Imagine having such thin skin in a fucking imageboard.

>>107098474
No fucking way, I did the needful and this is what I get.

>>107098918
I paid $10 for nothing. I got swindled. OpenRouter put a rate limit on me just before the provider would have done so. I was fooled into believing that giving OpenRouter $10, I would be able to finish my website. Instead I get hit with another rate limit from the provider itself immediately after.

I got literally 3 requests in before being blocked. I wish someone had warned me. No wonder OpenRouter reduced the amount of requests from 50 to 20 for free tier. I would have never paid if the provider blocked me before OpenRouter did.

>>107098980
>>107098918
pretty sure you can refund if the funds are still intact..

>>107098440
I NEED to see this log.

>>107098980
>I wish someone had warned me.
Man it's just $10 for fucks sake

>>107099065
In his country's money, that's like a thousand dollars.

>>107099065
I will never financially recover from this decision. But thank the lord, the provider seems to be working again for me.

>>107099076
Yeah I can buy like a kilo of bananas for less than a dollar here.

>Error: Response error: 400. {""success"":false,""error"":{""issues"":
>[{""code"":""invalid_type"",""expected"":""object"",""received"":""null"",""path"":
>[""messages"",0,""metadata""],""message"":""Expected object, received null""},{""code"":""invalid_type"",""expected"":""object"",""received"":""null"",""path"":
>[""messages"",1,""metadata""],""message"":""Expected object, received null""},{""code"":""invalid_type"",""expected"":""object"",""received"":""null"",""path"":
>[""messages"",2,""metadata""],""message"":""Expected object, received null""},{""code"":""invalid_type"",""expected"":""object"",""received"":""null"",""path"":
>[""messages"",3,""metadata""],""message"":""Expected object, received null""},{""code"":""invalid_type"",""expected"":""object"",""received"":""null"",""path"":
>[""messages"",4,""metadata""],""message"":""Expected object, received null""},{""code"":""invalid_type"",""expected"":""object"",""received"":""null"",""path"":
>[""messages"",5,""metadata""],""message"":""Expected object, received null""},{""code"":""invalid_type"",""expected"":""object"",""received"":""null"",""path"":
>[""messages"",6,""metadata""],""message"":""Expected object, received null""},{""code"":""invalid_type"",""expected"":""object"",""received"":""null"",""path"":
>[""messages"",7,""metadata""],""message"":""Expected object, received null""},{""code"":""invalid_type"",""expected"":""object"",""received"":""null"",""path"":[""messages"",8,""metadata""],""message"":""Expected object, received null""}],""name"":""ZodError""}}
Fuck you too LMArena

>>107098980
What model were you trying to use?

>>107099102
Llmarena sissies I don't feel too good

>>107099116
Qwen3 Coder 480b A35b

>>107099136
And now it's back to rate limiting again. I guess I just have to babysit cursor and try clicking the retry button once every few minutes or so.

>>107099127
It has never been more owari da then it is now!!

https://rentry.org/KillLMArena
https://rentry.org/KillLMArena
https://rentry.org/KillLMArena

>>107099136
As far as I'm aware of, it's 20 per minute

>>107099165
BASED

>>107099165
>>107099181
I can't wait until it pop and you fags need to get real jobs

Is this normal? It looks like it's sending over my entire fucking codebase every single time in the span of like a minute for every little task it does in kilocode. When using an online chat, you send the bot something once and it'll reply back with entire programs for you to save. In kilocode the interaction is more like

>send me your entire codebase
>okay, I made a small one line change in your CSS file
>send me your entire codebase again
>okay I updated a variable in your CSS file
>send me your entire codebase again
>okay, I updated the readme for good looks
>send me your entire codebase again
...

What the fuck? Why can't it just read my codebase once and have it in its memory rather than making me send requests every time a small change is made?

>>107099203
Are you retarded? That's how it works, models don't have actual memory

>>107099165
>initially against paid proxies freeloading off it (good)
>flip script to "locusts are dying" (cringe)
make it make sense

>>107098053
explains a lot
I blame you niggers for being bakelets

>>107098529
>shilled here before /vg/
kink
I mean kino

>bot with 2+ characters
>entire description is 1 paragraph under 300 tokens

>lmarena dying
>gemini keys being reported
>no good free models
Is this the end of the locust era, for real this time?

Lmarenatroons in suicide watch

>>107099279
Deserved. End your life now, troonie.

>>107099279
mistralCHADS will save the hobby

>>107099279
no. so long as these things exist locust will just adapt and change.
never underestimate the human drive to get shit for free.

>>107099279
>lmarena dying
uh?

>>107094987
Wasn't gemini 3 supposed to drop

>>107099291
>reddit typing
Eww

>>107099279
Once again, Gemini is literally a free model
1 Google AI Studio account = 300$ to spend on proompting
Proxies are redundant

>>107099362
>using jeetmini

_OOM stats?

Total Hopetranny Genocide

>>107099456
coom when i saw ur pic
sex with her

>>107099456
D

>>107095958
I have a card somewhere that uses that exact same image, want me to look for it?
it doesn't replicate the scenario though, you gotta do that yourself

I will NEVER stop dooming. I will ALWAYS believe it's over.

Is there a difference between branches and checkpoints in ST?
They seem identical to me.

>>107099458
Based

>>107099507
Why do reddit trannies like you come here to ask sillytavern questions instead of going to r/sillytavern?

>>107099529
>>107099534
quit samefagging /vg/foid

>>107095528
>OR
nigga hes paying for it

>>107099546
read >>107098811

>>107099608
He needs to pay more

>>107095958
>>107099470
well whatever, I know cftf is generally an excuse to post a lewd image but I ended up looking for it anyway

https://chub.ai/characters/kumKvm/dog-girl-roommate-266f1dbba124
I like the makie, lots of uoooh

>>107095351
>kinonet
i do

>>107099645
pronouncing this like Pinochet.

>>107099640
>I like the makie
That makes you a literal homosexual
Kill yourself

>>107099655
it's okay to be gay

>>107099655
>can't picture a man liking another man without making it gay
are you a woman?

>>107099673
Yeah

>>107099696
my condolences

>>107099004
The automatic summaries it's been giving me were pretty good. And it told me why my elf died.

Man, fixing someone else's bot from the ground up is hard work. After all this effort, I might actually put it up as a fork.

>>107099458
>Hopetranny
there's nothing manlier than having hope, it's a uniquely feminine trait to wallow in helplessness
You are the tranny

>>107099848
>named fucking burger

do americans really?

im a waituntilweseethemodelSAGE

>>107099892
#couldbewholesome
#couldbesexy

I've been feeling recently like DeepSeek (using 3.2) has stopped listening to my instructions as much... why so? A few weeks ago it listened to system prompt perfectly... what changed? are there any deepseek experts here that can tell me how to write/format a prompt DS will listen to more?

>>107100026
I feel like it's becoming like Gemini where you need to disable streaming. Maybe they've installed classification filter, or what's it called?

>>107100119
it's not that, I think, it's not filtering me at all, even at very questionable themes. it gives pretty good replies, dialogue is amazing, but sometimes it fucking decides to act for {{user}}. I'm trying to find a fix... but maybe I should just cope and accept good replies and prune parts I don't like? eh

BROS HELP THIS FUCKING ED IS STUCK AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHOW IT'S FROM
It has a fiddle in it, it's from some slice of life anime with a loli and has lyrics that go:
>ima atarashii sekai na tobi da
>kanashimi no zenbu
>shunkan ni kito kito

>>107099868
>After all this effort
It's less than a thousand words. Are you underage?

>>107100343
record your rendition of it and upload it to vocaroo: https://www.onlinepianist.com/virtual-piano

>>107100026
>uses tranny model
>complains about tranny replies
The solution is to use opus. But then you'd need to get a job, something you can't do due to your age.

>>107100359
https://voca.ro/14g4G9vUlU95

>>107100355
>It's less than a thousand words.
No? The defs are 1200 words, and the total after adding up every lorebook entry is probably enough to take it to 10000, if not higher. That's before the editing process. For free, and wholly unnecessary but voluntary, labor, that is a lot.
>oh but that's not a lot for me
Okay, but I didn't fucking ask, you third-world typewriter monkey. You don't do shit but post here every day.

>>107100343
>tranime

>>107100159
Sure. The role of an editor is preferable to a co-writer, anyway~ "Let it cook," as they'd say~

Claude for locustie cuties?

>>107100368
you are only worth for licking my dirty asshole
>>107100380
well that's always an option, but I was wondering if maybe there is a way to prevent it in the first place. maybe some anon found some similar issue. oh well, that's not too big of a problem in the end, if the rest of the reply is good.

could someone please hand me a good text completion preset for glm?

>>107100417
i can't hand you one but if you ask nicely i will feet you one

>>107100430
Give it to me

>>107100430
yes feet i agree

>tried Deepseek again after 1st impression way back when they're making the waves
>Now impressed

It writes as good as Claude 2. Should I try GLM next?

>>107099102
>>107099127
>>107099279
>>107099300
>mfw it's so easy to fix the LMArenaBridge script that you are a 70 IQ brownoid if you seriously cannot figure out how to get LMArenaBridge working again.
Kill all locusts

>>107100463
>reddit spacing

Paypigging is reddit.

>>107100373
>>107100343
bros please im going fucking insane

>>107099456
vroom vroom

>>107099362
How's it free? The api keys you generate with ai studio are limited to like 50 requests a day.

>>107099875
no (you) are the tranny

>>107099640
>awful defs
>a woman, not a snipped tranny with cute little click and cute little hrt titties
Not a cftf

I fucking hate this general, and I hate all of you.

>>107100662
Not me surely

>>107100611
your argument, troon?
of course you have none, you can only seethe and bitch because that's the only thing that provides comfort to your pitiful existence
the desire to bend nature to one's will against all odds, that's the manliest thing in life

>>107100026
>>107100159
>>107100385
help? please? anyone?

>>107100705
Acquire skills

>>107100705
the larger the context, the more issues llms have with following all your commands with pristine precision
in a way the chat story IS a prompt, so if there's constant mentions of user doing something, it will unavoidably sip into llm behavior
even if you tell it to "not say anything for {{user}}", it may repeat what you say in your prompt, because it's acknowledging it's command of writing a *story*

tl;dr deal with it and/or stamp it out with extreme prejudice because if it happens once it will likely happen again (and again and again...)

>>107100851
eh, that's what I thought. Even when I asked in OOC for the model to explain why it did so, it said that it slipped on instructions because it got too much into the story, so something similar to what you said. I guess I just have to... cope with less obvious examples and prune out more glaring ones?

I'm a /vg/ chad. AMA.

>>107094983 (OP)
She looks like she sucks mean dick.

>>107100907
How do I properly save money and not touch my savings account

>>107100343
IT WAS THE FUCKING WORLD OF FINAL FANTASY ENDING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh5DtQoIYIk

>>107100914
>How do I properly save money and not touch my savings account
Eat 60g of quick oats for breakfast every day with a glass of warm water on the side

Congratulations, your breakfast now costs 15 cents and your poop will never be runny again

Is it better to have the chat history before or after the instructions in a preset?
I can't figure out which I prefer.

>>107100876
anothe thing you can do is repeat it several times
so add it to your main pre-chat prompt, after your chat, and sprinkle a few ooc notes here and there
for 99% of use cases that should mostly cover it

you could also craft a CoT template, and specify in the template it should write a draft, and re-check whether it's writing/speaking for {{user}} or not, and to rewrite if it does
you can remind it to double-check spatial/physical awareness while you're at it so you can later debug why your tied-up sister is suddenly slapping you

>>107100979
>you can later debug why your tied-up sister is suddenly slapping you
this is funny but that actually never, ever happened to me, despite using deepseek very intensively for the past 2 months!

>anothe thing you can do is repeat it several times
I've been down this road before and I only saw it confuses the poor Dipsy, when I add too much about it, it starts forgetting about other instructions, and even so, this thing still happens.

>>107100961
both

>>107100989
it happens with all llms
llms read your prompt and interpret it to their own whimsical designs, but they pay a lot of attention to structuring
so for example, the llm will read the chat history
>user: prompt 1
>assistant: story
>user: prompt 2
>assistant: story, *slightly* repeats user action
>user: prompt 3
>assistant: story, repeats user action
>user: prompt 4
>assistant: story, acts for user
in this case the llm cascades its token probability into acting out for user from slightly repeating your actions
because you let it slip once, there's now a higher chance it will do it again
that's why it's important to edit out things from replies you don't want llms to repeat or say, because once it does, it's hard for it to kick the habit
it also gets worse if you start getting passive (ie., not acting/just talking, directormaxxing, etc.)

in case you're wondering, this never happens in "chat" styles of llm roleplay (short one-line prompts and replies without much description or story) because the format is much more structured and lacking ambiguous descriptions:
>is user acting? am I acting? am I all characters? or the world...? is the description for something that happens to user acting out for user? if user gets hit should i always wait for user's prompt for his reaction?
vs
>user chats, i reply

>>107101065
you are correct, it makes me rethink my whole problem to a question if I should even bother. if the dialogues and scenes are good... am I not just trying to find issue where there is none? I can always edit one bad paragraph or cut out wrong line, instead of discarding the whole reply and getting mad at my preset for not working... I am starting to realize that I am just autisticly working against myself here

thanks anon, thank you very much

aicg helpful hours

>>107100907
thick or trimmed?

>>107098529
the only lyra i like is apprentice lyra

>>107100911
do not stick your dick in crazy please

>>107100026
Not enough information. Are you using DS -reasoner or -chat? B/c chat has real issue with longer context, pic related.
What's your context size? Again, pic related.
Are you using the official API, or running through OR?
Nothing's changed w/ DS official that I've noticed over past few weeks, but it absolutely shifts (undocumented) over time, in addition to changing when they make announced releases.

>>107099868
I used to do that as an exercise. I'd grab some 2000 token abomination off Chub and cut cut cut it down to see how much I could remove and have the card still respond appropriately.
Doing that gives you a much better idea of what's unnecessary for your own cards. It's identical to working as an editor.
I used to fork and publish them. I don't bother doing that anymore.

WHY DID YOU NIGGERS KILL THE LMARENA SCRIPT??? WHAT DO YOU GAIN WITH THIS

minsk seems like a good jb but the regex doesn't seem to be working even at the right order

>>107101403
Locusts. Are. Dying.

minsk regex is working for me

>>107101403
It makes my big fat brown belly jiggle.

>>107101410
i mean the problem for seem doesn't even seem to be the regex itself, its just that 2.5 is not putting messages between the stuff, so the regex cannot detect it, which is weird and gay

>>107096757
Your profile only shows these 3, am I missing something?
I want Ichika or Konoka

>>107101458
HAIRPULLGUY GOT FUZZED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>107101458
You need to go into your settings and allow NSFL content. The mods tag almost all of my bots as "Underage" which chub considers are being automatically NSFL.
Yes, it's that stupid.
>Ichika
I haven't made her yet, I'll do it when the Summer Trinity comes out on the next BlueFes.
>Konoka
The police chick? I haven't done any Valkyrie students yet.

>>107101416
this solved it

ichika is such a cute girl... i like how she takes selfies of herself. her hairy pussy...

>>107101515
She's shaved. It's really smooth

>>107101515
>>107101518
Ichika is another of the mega stacy characters in Blue Archive, there is no way she doesn't take care of herself.

>>107101515
>>107101518
aristotles vs plato

>>107101458
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105472981/#105476275

>>107101497
Got it, saw that option but the examples (scat, MLP) made me avoid it.
>>107101518
Yeah, she's clean shaven and would be comfortable wearing a strap-on.

ALL THESE BULLIES GANGING UP ON ME

>>107101545
You need that enabled or else most of the website is filtered for you. Any character who is mentioned to be under 18 is immediately retagged as Underage, doesn't matter the contents.

where did all the botmakies go...

>>107101848
vg

>>107101458
the price of writing good bots

Getting more and more of those leaked key 503's on gemini.
The noose is closing before gemini 3 comes out.

>>107102014
who cares
gemini is terrible anyway

ok why in the name of fuck can't gemini follow the simple instruction of putting </think> after its reasoning? i'm screaming at it and it won't do it for some reason

>>107102014
whats the exact error code and error it gives

is there a way, and if there is, what is the best way, to pay for deepseek access while keeping anonimity?

>>107102110
it is following it, it's just using its own token to represent a finished thinking process, which st does not replace with anything useful

>>107102149
direct api access, chinks don't care about your logs, only about making money

>>107102173
well the thing is its not really using its own reasoning, im using minsk and it has its own thinking template which is quite good, but it forgets to put </think> on the end of it (even if the template has it) so the regex can't hide it, making every message be a huge spam, which isn't ideal

>>107102194
its still using its own token to close the block because what you asked it to do looks like the breakdowns it was trained to output

>

Looks like Tunnel's proxy just got blocked

>>107102204
well shit, the fuck i am supposed to do then? hm, if ST turned it into something useful i could make a regex, well shit

How can I get more variety in Claude Sonnet 4.5?

It writes well, is fully uncensored. But it rarely comes up with interesting storys or spontaneous things of its own, if I dont just steer it hard the story is extremely boring.

>>107102303
use opus

>>107096640
he is just laughing at us with the 3's at this point

>>107102303
I've noticed this with all the big corpo models recently.
It feels like across the board all of them are less interesting, less engaging and more just saying the factory settings minimum.
Makes sense since these are all meant to be office-tools first and foremost but it sucks seeing the soul die industry wide in real time.

>>107098297
>If I actually give them the $10 and stick to only the free models, does that mean that I will have the 1k requests per day forever?
Depends on the provider (openrouter is just an intermediary in case you're unaware). If they decide to throttle the free tier, like Chutes often does for example, the limitation would also extend to the $10 tier as those tiers are the same as far as the provider is concerned.

>>107102241
i found a way, and its the most retarded thing ever, i just ask gemini to put the following phrase between the thinking and the actual output "lypophrenia", and then replace it with </think> in the regex

>>107094983 (OP)
Firefly>>>Sparkle

>>107102521
I remember her from Fortnite.

>>107100377
>Okay, but I didn't fucking ask, you third-world typewriter monkey. You don't do shit but post here every day.
Erm if you think ~1000 words is too much then you are the third-world monkey.

>>107100385
Sounds like some little underage poorfag can't even afford sonnet

>>107100463
>It writes as good as Claude 2
Esl tranny detected. Claude 2 has better spatial awareness as a much more varied sentence structure than deepchink

>>107099279
>gemini keys being reported
Meh, Deepseek is better anyway.

>>107102577
I can afford it, I just don't want to use inferior model, get over it

>>107100695
>the desire to bend nature to one's will against all odds, that's the manliest thing in life
Pay for opus then? You speak about taming the forces of nature yet you can't even tame your own paycheck, cuckie

>>107101403
It's funny

>>107102603
>"I can afford tomahawk steak, b-but I just like eating gruel ok? Gruel is a delicacy, y-you w-wouldn't understand, h-heh"
This is how you sound, poorfag

What made >>107102603 so mad?

>>107102638
You are acting like a child, you know? With poor taste at that. But sure, go defend your slop model online if it makes you feel better.

>>107102658
>Hehehe, my big fat brown belly can't stop jiggling, hehehe, I owned this anthropic shill! Time to spend my yuans with my beloved chinkseek

>>107102666
You wish you had a nice belly like that, maybe you wouldn't be as lonely. Try developing one, you'll like it anon

>>107102658
Only an underage poorfag would enjoy the nearly inexistent sentence variation of deepchink, you need to have an IQ under 80 to see the exact same sentence structure every reply and not feel nauseated by it, cuckie

>>107102699
Trvke

>>107102303
Variety != kino
You can't make it write kino if it's not trained for that. Maybe you could throw a ton of kino examples at it, idk. Swipe variety can be increased though (by injecting some external randomness).

>>107102303
>how can I get variety from a compact model
Switch to a big model, opus in the his case.

>>107102787
But the average opus gen is worse than sonnet 4.5 :(

>>107102794
jb problem

>>107102804
>Same preset
>Opus 4.1 answers are worst than sonnet 4.5
I don't think it works like you think it does, buddy

>>107102794
Opus 4 and 4.1 are the same shit too. Only Opus 3 can write well.

>>107102814
Use 4.0, retard

>>107102146

{
"error": {
"code": 403,
"message": "Your API key was reported as leaked. Please use another API key.",
"status": "PERMISSION_DENIED"
}
}


Checked after request validation in generateContent.

/adt/ is nice and point us as their neighbor
Why don’t we do the same?

>>107102820
>Opus 4 is worse than 4.1
>UsE oPuS 4
Fuck off

>>107102814
preset?

>>107102850
>follow4follow slop

>>107102859
Edited neovorpus

>>107102699
Good paypiggy
*pat pat*

Fix your fucking time outs skillgod

Locusts are dying~

>>107102903
Yes, adults pay for things, food included. You will learn this in 6 or 8 years, kiddo

Dying are locusts~

>>107102852
Enjoy your slop, tranny

I haven't used opus since 3.0
Is it ACTUALLY still the best...?

>>107102988
no

>>107102988
No

>only 200 keys among the 3000+ i scraped in june still work
>the only tier 3 key i have is on that list
Phew!

>>107102955
Adults use money responsibly
Paypigs use money irrationally
Like paying for overpriced slop

SKILLGOOOOD! FIX YOUR PROXY!!!

>>107103033
No I won’t fix it this time you ungrateful locusts

>>107102988
4.1 is the best

>>107103009
Opus is less than 10% of my income, spending a couple thousand a month in something you enjoy is what white adults in first world countries do.

>>107103052
Fuck off, by that math you're doing >20k a month lmao

>>107103052
this anon gets paid in Zimbabwe dollars btw

>>107103040
get the marnie avatar if you want to impersonate him, cuckie~

>>107103052
So apparently not saving your money like any fucking regular person would makes you brown? I'd get it if you were some Saudi oil baron, but come on. A couple thousand a month is a little excessive.

>>107103060
That's a normal US salary, cuckie

>>107103079
>A couple thousand a month is a little excessive.
Its what I used to spend in whores

>there’s people itt who unironically pay for slopus
Lol
Lmao even

>nooo you're not allowed to spend money in something you like
I also like pizza. I pay for it too.

>>107103128
Oh, I remember you. You're the fatty that eat 2.5 large pizzas weekly, right?

>>107103128
post your age height and weight so i can check if you're fat

>>107103171
You really expect him to be truthful? He'll probably larp with some shit like "i am le 32 year old 6'5 200lbs dilf chad"

>there are wagekeks in this thread
>in /g/ in the year of our lord 2025 AD

>>107099848
Gemini really is the best model.

>>107099203
>have it in its memory
That's what that 50k tokens is anon.

>>107100606
>what do you mean there's free refills? You won't let me fill my entire bathtub with soda!

>>107099868
This except I fixed his entire lorebook, added 40 new characters, and added a money system. It's barely the same card now so it doesn't even count as a fork.

>>107103245
What was even the card kek

>>107103259
Pokegirl Brothel. I renamed it to Pokegirl Pavilion and turned it into a harem since I didn't want my favorite waifus cucking me. Then I started seething because girls like Sonia and Nessa weren't even there and I got carried away. Now there's like 75 characters.

>>107103149
>>107103171
>>107103185
>>107103194
Cope, poorfags

>>107103283
kek, based. you mind sharing, anon? i could use something like that as well.

>>107103283
Sounds good, link?

>>107103294
>>107103297
It's still being heavily tested because I'm trying to figure out how best to do the new money/stamina system.

>>107103307
I could make do with the current version despite that. The new characters + it being changed to a harem would be nice

I saw the issue was with openai
I beg you pardon, skillgod saaaar~

>>107103307
You will never be a real woman, cuckie. "Botmakers" are useless, only esl trannies are incapable of making their own cards

claude/gpt/gemini/glm/xai/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxy
https://nickel-unnecessary-believes-edit.trycloudflare com/

>>107103316
https://litter.catbox.moe/jae8nysmpudj096i.png
This is the card. There's no greeting because it's supposed to be episodic where you meet different people. AI usually has the doorway spawn via a medallion in your pocket.
https://litter.catbox.moe/1ypxkpniis5py3en.json
This is the lorebook for the world info with all the characters. It should be part of the card but just in case. You need to say "Pokegirl roster" in some way to properly do the command to summon the girls.
https://litter.catbox.moe/6viomoo7r9jb8mtv.json
This is the required secondary lorebook for memories. It shows which Tier/familiarity each girl has to you and you can write in short summaries of the stuff you did with them so AI remembers on the next day.

>>107103502
slop

>>107103502
Anon, this is really cool. When the card is finished, please post it somewhere

>>107098297
>>107098474
JFC I'm getting rate limited every other damn request. What should have taken me 10 minutes of iteration with the AI has been well over 4 hours. The free deepseek chat spits out more code in 30 seconds than this does in 4 hours. I'm getting close to asking for a refund and just paying for the deepseek api instead.

>>107103529
I'm not really a botmaker, just a lover of pokegirls so I decided to improve that card. Be sure to check out the new items too. Not having a hypno pendulum was an obvious missed opportunity.

Redpill me on GLM for cooming. I'm tired of DeepSeek slop and too poor for Claude.

Lmao, what the fuck? It was so fucking easy to fix the arena script, I was afraid they had broken it for good. If you guys can't fix it by yourselves, then you don't deserve it in the first place

>>107103627
Kill yourself.

>>107103657
>ablublublu

>>107103695
>techlethog is mad because he can't fix the script

>>107103733
>ablublublu

>locusts can't scrape, fix scripts, afford models, or even make non-slop prompts
Why are they still allowed in this hobby? We need to gatekeep harder.

Was lithium better than sonnet 4.5?

>>107103863
Yes, but Sonnet 4.5 is shit desu

>>107103657
>I was afraid they had broken it for good
Only trannies experience fear

"Food" is a reddit word

>>107103822
>ablublublu

>>107103822
Locustroons will be mad at you for telling the truth

>>107101545
>Got it, saw that option but the examples (scat, MLP) made me avoid it.
Anon, use the blacklist to block those things.

>>107104106
>ablublublu

>>107104135
Ah yes, the sound of a dying locust

>>107103822
>>107104106
But first we need to kill faggots like you.

>>107104159
>ablublublu

>>107104178
read >>107104159

does this place ever talk about chatbots?

>>107104233
astroturfing faggot

>>107104208
Gemini 3 confirmed 2036 in low earth orbit!

>>107104247
what?

>>107104205
>ablublublu

>>107104233
Not really. Vast majority of the threads now are just one or two shitposters responding to themselves and each other.
Occasionally you'll get some bots cross posted from /vg/ and some technical posts, logs and talking about logs are even rarer.This place is pretty much just winding down.

>>107104250
Just ignore /vg/foid

>>107104277
It's amazing how much better these threads would be if a single aggressive schizo died of an aneurysm.

>>107104265
read >>107104247

>>107104277
>Occasionally you'll get some bots cross posted from /vg/
If you can't bring yourself to create a card yourself then you don't deserve to live.
Tranny.

>>107104304
>ablublublu

>>107104332
>ablublublu
Low IQ tranny sounds

>glub glub glub glub glub!
I accept you're contusion.

>>107104356
>ablublublu

Ow, my head.

>>107104381
>troonspeak

>>107095114
>>107095114
>>107095114

>>107104411
>ablublublu

>>107104431
Slop

>>107104456
>>107104456
>>107104456
Migrate.

>>107104425
>exploring the wilderness with Miku
cftf?

>>107104457
Do something about it

desu

>>107104556
Fuck off.

>>107104556
>desu
desu

boku

bosu

desu

>>107104303
True.

deku