Thread 107117738

>Download Linux.
>Just makes me wish Windows was still good.

>>107117738 (OP)
windows was never good

>>107117738 (OP)
>install steam
>uninstalls your desktop

>>107117758
>linus

>>107117744
98SE/NT/2K/XP/7 were all great thoughever

>>107117738 (OP)
>>107117758
the average ubuntu "just works" experience kek
stop using meme distros

I use windows 7

>>107117896
I'm upgrading to 10 soon.

Wish it had every game and piece of software on it like Windows

i went back to windows like 7 weeks ago

I'm using an old laptop from like 2016 with an old spinning HDD and Mint with XFCE works way better than windows 10 did. No slowdowns whatsoever while Windows 10 took like 60 seconds to open a basic file browser window.
Everything just werked out of the box including bluetooth but speakers audio doesn't seem to work. I'm sure I could get it working by fiddling but I'm using bluetooth headphones anyways.
The only thing that required fiddling that was non-negotiable was a flux alternative and Redshift requires you to manually create a config file.
Overall I don't miss windows on this particular laptop at least, linux works way better than windows

>>107117824
this
half the retard win refugees at /fglt/ are using these meme distros because marketing and muh gaming performance instead of using distros that have been rock solid for the past 15-20 years and they have the most retarded problems like that

>>107117738 (OP)
it's by design. they make it horrendous for people that are knowledgable as they don't want them teaching the next lot about what computing was like before the major event. they want to keep them as uninformed and ill-informed as possible so they are easier to deal with.

>>107118082
What event would that be?

>>107117744
This, that's the biggest redpill of switching to Linux is "holy shit how the fuck do people voluntarily use windows?"

>>107118991
The only advantage Windows has is gaming, at this point. If Valve can keep pushing Proton's development forward, there will be very little reason for anybody to want to still use Windows.

>>107118674
Not sure but now that Windows users are typically retarded, they can do massive dystopian shit with minimal pushback, like if you showed Windows as it's been since 10 to a computer user in the 2000s, they would be like "holy shit, that operating system is phoning home and is the definition of spyware and adware" but people are so smooth brained on the windows side these days, that they just put up with it now because power users have fucked off to Linux or Mac, it's almost an amazing filter MS has created to get the customers they want.

>>107119006
Windows was phoning home and being spyware in the 2000s too, it would be nothing new to them

>>107117824
>>107117946
the retard is you lot not giving a proper answer as to what's the best just a "it depends" answer thus majority normalfags are going to be like hmm the ad says its this the AI search results says that reddit says that and they go for it. Your fault for not at least providing a cohesive 5 option list the very least to combat faulty advertisement info for linuxnewfags.

>>107117758
>normies poisoning the well

>>107117758
you look handsome in your reflection, I'd like to fuck you

>>107119590
he's happily married

>>107117738 (OP)
You get used to the difference over time. I for one am a huge fan of being able to just 'sudo pacman -Syu' and update half of all apps I have installed in one swoop.
Heck of a lot easier than going to the website and installing another .exe, and then running it.

>>107119627
Based Linux updating all of it's software in one place, it amazes me how after all this time with upgraded technology, Microsoft can't make a liveCD installer like Linux has where you can be browsing the fucking internet while installing it, which blew me away even in the era of Ubuntu 8.10, it's 2025 and Windows still has the Vista style installer like it's the year 2006 or something, but boy can they get the spyware coded perfectly, lots of effort was put in for that, Windows is so goddamn clusterfucked, but people act like it's easy to use or something, probably because they've been doing it their whole life and any other way of doing this is hard.

>>107117738 (OP)
I went from windows 10 to Fedora 43 KDE Plasma this week and so far it's actually been a better user experience for me.

>>107117758
Yes, this sure looks like the fault of Linux, not the user being unable to read

>>107120868
you should touch grass if you know what all these dependencies mean or why they are being DELETED when you INSTALL something

>>107117946
i'll bet you run arch, don't you

>>107121068
If I saw these error messages and didn't know what any of it meant, then I would google how to use apt, which would tell me quite quickly that I should update it before trying to upgrade or install anything, which afaik would fix this problem.

>>107117946
Which distros have been rock solid for the past 15-20 years and are ideal for gaming?

>>107121068
Maybe, but seeing
"this should not be done unless you know what you are doing"
and
"You are about to do something harmful"
where it makes you confirm that you really want this by typing a specific phrase should make you rethink

>>107117738 (OP)
>Download
>Just makes me wish Windows was still good.
Fair, but just be glad that you can use linux which is that good these days without major pain of switching.
I've switched a few years back and I still have that "it just werks" moment occasionally where I'm amazed at how simple something is that I'd have to do esotheric registry vodoo in windows to do, only for the next update to break everything again.
Life's good on the other side.

>>107121068
>This should not be done unless you know exactly what you are doing
>You are about to do something potetially harmful. To continnue, type the phrase 'Yes, do as I say'
If you see a phrase as a confirmation prompt and you don't think twice why it is no simply y or yes you are a fucking moron. At the very least you should read above
Also, what could 'pop-desktop' possibly be?

>>107121068
Ah, yes, such difficult to understand and ambiguous warnings as "the following essential packages will be removed. This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!" and "You are about to do something potentially harmful".

>>107121238
This, motherfuckers are just being and talking shit just because it's Linux, meanwhile even on a Mac, you can delete the shit out of everything if you're typing things you shouldn't into the terminal

>>107121250
>motherfuckers are just being
being disingenuous*

>>107117778
XP was a downgrade from 2000. 7 is bloated as fuck

>>107117768
>save link as html document
>dunno why dood :O
What a fucking retard

>>107121198
Erm, xir? It's right there in the OP.

>>107121408
Not rolling release, not worth using.

>>107120868
>>107121068
>Misses the line:
>This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
>Still types out:
>Yes, do as I say!
For a supposedly tech-savvy guy, Linus can be a fucking retard sometimes. The fact that he does it so brazenly and thinks that the problem was the OS and not his own lack of reading comprehension and THEN presented that to his audience is astounding.

>>107121238
>>107121611
user knows exactly what they're doing - installing steam and nothing else
gnome's autistic screeching in command line interface has no meaning to them
if linux actually cared about user experience, it would explicitly write that deleting these packages will result in deleting your OC and ask user to write "yes delete my OC" instead of being so ambiguous

>>107121611
He knows how to read english, he did it for the controversy/clicks

>>107117758
Kek it's literally like that meme where it's just a terminal and it says fuck you but I can't find it

You almost want Window lickers to stay on Windows because they're just so goddamn stupid.

>>107121765
Linux users are fundamentally autistic, trying to communicate with autistic people is literally pointless.

>>107117758
what's actually happening here? I"ve never seen apt-get do anything like this.
>t. Mintlet

>>107117768
>click "save link as"
>it saves the link to the file and not the file

>>107123124
He is trying to install a package that requires an entirely different desktop environment.

>>107123124
Some popos fuckery

>>107123157
Nibbas really doing stupid ass shit in terminal (which no one should be using for normal use) and acting like Linux is hard. I've been on Mint for 2 years now and only use Terminal for unusual ass shit like Neofetch and running Prime95, literally never use it for installing stuff, everything is from either flatpack or dpkg in the software center (including steam)

>>107117768
I had to watch that like 3 times and slow it down because he moves fast. If he actually paid addition, the very bottom tells him why it was a fucking .HTML file.

>>107123124
>what's actually happening here?
Pop fucking up (which they fixed after this video came out), but Linus fucking up because he didn't read the errors that warned him "this will fuck your system, if you're sure you want to do this type 'YES, DO AS I SAY!'" and then proceeding to type "YES, DO AS I SAY!" and then wondering why his system was fucked up.

Same reason why he wonders the .sh is an .html file, because he doesn't pay attention to the save-as type being .html instead of .sh or any.

>>107117738 (OP)
>he doesn't know that you can bling your mint out
Amateur.

>>107123734
You also have to remember this man is a professional liar motivated by greed. Everything he is doing is calculated.

>>107123740
It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of these tech tubers aren't paid by microshaft to run cover for how shit Windows is and keep people on the plantation by acting like Linux is some hard to use thing, in an era where Windows 11 is literally a hard to use thing.

>>107123777
Based source enjoyer, I should get the portal games, see how they run on Mint and play em for the first time.

>>107123786
This ain't even my main rig. Gaben's done a seriously good job at making sure games, especially his, run pretty well outside of windows.
The only real pain in the ass comes from if you use NVIDIA, because you have to install CUDA, drivers, and some other tomfuckery I haven't quite gotten down to ensure it actually runs on the OpenGL renderer instead of 'llvmpipe'.

>>107123809
Aw damn I'm on a 1050Ti in the main PC, still would be worth attempting to play on my Ivy Bridge HD4000 laptop, which would probably be more entertaining.

>>107117744
/thread.

>>107123786
>Based source enjoyer, I should get the portal games, see how they run on Mint and play em for the first time.
you've never played portal?

all memes aside, it's a good game, i wish i could play it for the first time again

>>107123777
Checkin'
Which icons?

>>107123892
I mean I basically know the whole game via YouTube vids but I've never played it, which is a crying shame because solving puzzles and shit in stuff like Zelda games are what I grew up on.

>mint is just like windows 7!
>try it
>literally just the desktop and start menu superficially looks like windows 7
>go into settings
>phone-tier interface, somehow worse than modern windows Settings

>>107123910
man, if you haven't spoiled it by watching speedruns of something, go play portal already, fuck.
naturally, being a puzzle game, having any idea about how it works dilutes the experience, but if you can't tell me how to "solve a chamber", go play it ffs.

>>107123933
>phone-tier interface, somehow worse than modern windows Settings
The Settings panel of Linux Mint looks damn near like a Mac Anon, that's just what a Unix based settings panel looks like, it's really not that foreign, of course it sorta smacks of a phone because Android has a Linux like kernel, and Apple iPhones run a Darwin style kernel from the macs, which is a unix-like kernel, so when you think about it, Micosoft Windows is the one being unusual.

>>107123939
I'm getting that shit

>>107121068
>m-m-MUH TOUCH GRASS
zoomers need to get the fuck off of my website

>>107124000
do it faggot

>>107123903
Not quite sure what you mean. But, I basically made this PC Aperture themed for funsies.
>>107123939
Tbf, I also saw Portal playthroughs before actually getting the games and actually playing them is a wholly different experience.
>>107124000
L4D2CoachHELLYEAH.wav

>>107123989
Then don't say Mint is "like Windows". Or any other distro/DE for that matter, you just make yourselves look dumb. I wouldn't doubt that dumb Unixisms is what preventing Linux from having intuitive UI without it being retardedly simplistic.

>>107123910
this post reminds me of watching a cinemassacre video on the planet of the apes, during the video, he brings up something like "if you haven't watched it, go watch it now", /and i did/. and i don't regret it, while portal isn't quite the same thing, spoiling something in general is something you just can't undo. no matter what you think. i did watch the movie when he said that, and the part he hints at was genuinely new to me. after that i have never taken spoilers lightly

>>107123910
>I basically know the whole game via YouTube vids
Ew

>>107124142
>Then don't say Mint is "like Windows"
We don't, not being like Windows is the point.

>>107124303
Lol okay so we are at the "feign ignorance/play pretend" section linuxfag dialogue tree.

>>107124383
I'm feigning anything Anon, any Linux distro is not going to be Windows, for good reason, your KDEs and Linux Mints put their menu where Windows puts it to not shock people who come to this "just works" distro, but that doesn't mean they're telling you this is Windows, it's actually better because you don't deal with the nonsense of Windows

>>107124107
>Not quite sure what you mean. But, I basically made this PC Aperture themed for funsies.

I meant which desktop icon theme are you using?

>>107124463
The structure of your phrases is atrocious anon.

>>107123777
>Makes it look like windows11.
PoV: You got stockholm syndrome and you are trying to escape the trauma.

>>107124509
I try Anon, it just goes to show how good Linux Mint is when a retard like me who talks weird is using it no issue

>>107124502
Ah, Mint-Y-Dark-Blue.
>>107124531
Am I no longer 'the raped'?

>>107124592
You are still raped, you are suffering stockholm syndrome from your windows overlords who fucked you in the ass hard enough to make you want to transform your linux back to the W11 because you couldn't function without it.

>>107124592
>>107124531
DURRR

>>107124463
>your KDEs and Linux Mints put their menu where Windows puts it to not shock people who come to this "just works" distro
More like thats what the retards developing these DEs think is the only thing about Windows that "just works".

>>107124107
>But, I basically made this PC Aperture themed for funsies.
here ya go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_NNCNDYEpU

>>107117946
name 1 rock solid distro that has KDE instead of some meme DE like xcfe or mate

>>107125248
Kubuntu
OpenSuse

>>107125266
yeah that's great

>>107125274
>he listens to furryfox

>>107124592
That's Mint-X-Blue retard

If only linux copied wndows/mac UI instead of trying to make their own

>>107125919
It's a good thing they don't copy it, being minimal and good is what Linux is all about, the mentality of "let's make it like these operating systems that are the problem" would ruin Linux with bloat.

>>107125248
almost all have KDE in their repos
i'd care more about my distro getting
>bootloader
>encryption
>packages
right than the DE, which you can pretty much install on whatever distro you want anyway

>>107121611
Linus knew what he was doing
He picked the option that fucks shit up because it generates more views
The endgame of all "content creators" is attention whoring

>>107121765
Dumb gorilla niggers like you shouldn't be allowed near PCs

>>107120868
>>107117758
>it's the "linux users defend the shittiest, most retarded bug imaginable" episode again
You fuckers probably expect everyone to read the EULA when they are asked to accept terms and conditions, too. You can't expect new users to understand what all this shit means, even if they did read it. They are trained from day one to blindly paste terminal commands from websites to install applications; why would this be any different?

This should have never fucking uninstalled the desktop environment. It's an absolute joke that this is even possible for an average user just trying to install an application. People who defend shit like this is why Linux has the reputation it has with normies.

>>107129320
>you can't expect the users to read
lmao
>They are trained from day one to blindly paste terminal commands from websites to install applications
Well if they had a brain they wouldn't
Do you delete system32 when someone tells you to?
Neither should you run sudo rm -rf / without knowing what it does

>>107129417
>Do you delete system32 when someone tells you to?
Yes, that was the whole joke around telling people to delete System32. The average person has no fucking idea what any of this means and they just do what they are told to accomplish the task they are given.

>>107117768
What a gay system font

>>107119032
The response here: "read the wiki retard instead of wanting to get spoonfeeded"
End result:"You know, Windows is still good"

Just use Nobara

>>107119590
Homo pajeet doesn't even know who linux is

>>107117768
>that font
can this nigga kill himself already

>>107117758
Just install bazaar and you'll never run into this issue. Flatpak has solved distro GUI packages for all normie apps.

Debian is still the best. Mint exists but its bloated and made too many changes. Linux is not windows, if you can't install debian 13 with XFCE, move the taskbar around and install flatpak you might be a lost cause and should just stay on windows.

sudo apt install flatpak
sudo flatpak remote-add --if-not-exists flathub https://dl.flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo
sudo flatpak install bazaar

>>107130445
Mint XFCE is the bomb, Thunar has no concept of how to share a goddamn folder like Nemo can but as an OS that can at least access folders my Cinnamon machine is sharing it's fucking great.

>>107117758
Reminder this only happened because linus didnt use debian and used poopOS with a fucked up steam package
Flathub.org existed and was very good. He could've used flathub.com and easily installed steam.

It literally tells you step by step how to install it
https://flathub.org/en/setup/Debian

>>107130506
Debian is shite for gaming

>>107117738 (OP)
Install CachyOS

>i want MAX GIGA MAXED GAMING and can read a wiki google when something breaks and i have an Nvdia GPU
CachyOS
>i want MAX GAMING but i want the OS to not break and stays out of my way as much as possible, also i heard AMD is better for Linux and i got a 9070XT
Nobara
>I want gaming but i am an illiterate and want my PC to be a console
Bazzite

Simple as

>>107130650
Is there a Nobara equivalent for Nvidia GPU owners?

>>107130659
Nobara works on Nvdia too
Cachy better for Nvdia though

>>107130650
>nobara
ge is a retard using ai to vibe code, every ge-proton release is buggy as fuck with hallucinated ai parameters

>>107130750
Fedora itself is embracing vibe coding

>>107130750
So what proton fork should I use instead of proton-ge?

>>107117744
over before it even started.

>>107130826
The fuck even is vibe coding?
>Hmmm I wanna do a thing
>I know, I'll code it
That's been a thing for 50 fucking years.

>>107130854
just use proton-experimental, if you need something special than proton-cachyos

>>107130854
You shouldn't be using Linux for gaming

>>107130866
ranjesh...

>>107129320
>You can't expect new users to understand what all this shit means, even if they did read it.
If they can't understand it, they shouldn't be using a computer.

>>107117744
XP SP3 and 7 SP1 were the peak versions, then it went downhill from there.
And now that Windows 11 is being jeeted, that's a wrap.
>t. running nobara
>Happy now of being free from telemetry spyware, free from AI powered malvertisement spam
>No ads in start menu nor file explorer
>Updates doesn't brick the computer
>Updates aren't being made with AI from poopladesh India
>Performance is amazing and doesn't need nearly as much resources.
Heard Bazzite is a solid distro as well, might check it out in the future

>>107130876
Reminder than the jeet government created their own Linux distro and wants to move all of India to Linux eventually

>>107130445
I don't like the isolation of flatpaks

>>107130902
Both Fedora and Nobara are using AI for coding now anon

You can replace any windows user's OS with Kubuntu and their life would only improve

>>107130928
>snaps
uhhhhh

>>107117768
>that fucking font
this should be ragebait

>>107130939
It is

>>107130902
>Updates aren't being made with AI from poopladesh India
Until the next Fedora release, which will 100% have jeetcode now that they approved AI assisted contributions.

>>107130933
What negative impact do snap packs have on normies?

>>107130876
ranjesh...

>>107130877
A lot of people shouldn't be doing a lot of things, but that's not the world we live in.

>>107121611
He was always a retard. A 40yo child that still plays games, all he ever knew is to assemble a computer like legos. A 5yo would know how to do it.

Can Linux remember what resolution and refresh rate you have on startup now?

>>107123777
>Auto-arrange with this giant spacing
still can't fault for being a source chad, did you play INFRA?

>>107130922
>>107130955
Great. Anything not AI jeeted these days?

>>107130914
I want to live in the timeline where India has its own walled-off national intranet.

>>107131430
Non-FEDora distros

>>107117738 (OP)
Windows is better than Linux at this point. I like how you know what I'm downloading right now. Definitely shows people that there is an agenda to control people's tech and systems going on to further a larp Western governments are unwilling to fix for their own people's safety.

>>107130854
If it doesn't work with default I try Experimental, then latest GE via ProtonUp-Qt

>>107131459
>Windows is better than Linux at this point
yes saar tell the bloody basterd bitch benchods to come back to windows

>>107122456
You realize not being a borderline retard isn't autism? Trying to claim anything beyond the OS babying the user as "user unfriendly" honestly just proves the age old quote by a wise man:

>Computers went wrong when we made them for niggers

>>107117768
>being filtered this hard
Must suck having sub 85 IQ

>>107131284
what

>>107131992
When I last used Linux as my desktop OS in 2019-2020 I had to use and auto execute a custom script that would set my resolution and refresh rate or it would default to 60Hz.

>>107132173
I'm, using two monitors with different resolutions and refresh rates and I don't have to do anything like that, so I guess it works

>>107117738 (OP)
>Mint
You get what you fucking deserve.

>>107117768
God what a moron.

We all know Linux is the last place all users are left with without total globalist control, as our governments have been co-opted by the global criminal cabal of perpetual victims. But, they're now infecting FLOSS with their virtual political golems coding backdoors in to everything.

>>107132272
That's great news.

>>107117744
Among all the delusions of linux posters, this one takes the cake

>>107117738 (OP)
But Windows 11 is better than 10.

Mintniggers are ruining this hobby

>>107133115
t. Jealous Mint chads are getting all the benefits of Linux without having to fuck around

I swear to god Linux is the only space where people actively become upset if more people are using it.

>>107132577
How so? It has more things and 1 more number in the name.

Just stall Ubuntu and download a WIndows skin for it. It's that simple

>>107133299
no. gnome is a humiliation ritual.

>>107133299
I would just go the Luke Smith way and get used to the way GNOME, XFCE etc feel, because you can't fully get into Linux if you're doing everything possible to make it like Windows, you'll just never be happy, using it as it is and getting used to it just like originally with windows is why people love Windows so much even though it's garbage, if you just get used to how a DE looks as it is, you'll be match happier.

>>107132294
Mint is a great distro thoughbeit, for both noobs and experienced just-werks enjoyers. Truly the everymans Linux

>>107133437
It really is peak distro, you've got the Gnome fork Cinnamon and XFCE as desktops, what the fuck else do you need?

>>107133437
no.

>>107117758
this happened to me in mint but I was trying to compile an old game with very old dependencies

>>107130445
oh... yeah.... "flatpaks"
>install notepad
>800mb will be downloaded

>>107133207
>>107133437
>>107133453
Mint lost, fuck off

>>107129320
yeah, what does a desktop environment even have to do with installing something, in any case it should be protected more than just adding sudo to a command

>>107133511
>Literally who site made for retard distrohoppers
>Mint still way up there and we're not even counting the people who just use it and don't make a fuss

>>107133526
mintgger go home

>>107133555
With pleasure this OS based af

>>107133486
Time for the daily humiliation ritual, another 1GB of runtimes for old GPU driver versions because for some reason apps depend on them?

>install Fedora 43 KDE
>install Citrix Workspace
>Citrix doesn't support Wayland
>dnf install plasma-workspace-x11
>everything laggy
>switch to Mint

Yeah, I dunno. Can't really expect normies to be able to find workarounds because of Linux autism.

>>107133994
Yet another satisfied Gaayyland user lmao, what a joke that entire project is. Hope xlibre picks up even if i'm content with current xorg
Lemme guess everything just werked on mint?

>>107134024
No issues so far. I was surprised with how straightforward it was to install nvidia drivers. I think it'd be helpful for normies if it was automatically included, but I suppose that's due to nvidia's closed source silliness.

>>107121068
>i want to use linux but i don't want to read any of the gay terminal shit that tells me what's happening or what it means

if linux troons could figure out how to make a .exe installer windows would cease to exist. but they cant. because they are retarded and are in love with the terminal

>>107134256
>.exe installer
>installer
get .AppImage
add execute permission
double click
https://appimage.org

>>107134256
Dude, fuck an exe file, I'll take the Linux Mint Software Center all day, I literally search whatever I need, click install, type password, boom, no wizard, no throwing icons on my desktop, it's ready to go.

Windows is a literal clusterfuck compared to Linux, I don't like the terminal either, but you don't have to use it to get stuff in Linux.

>>107134256
because making the package manager do everything is 10x better?
you dont have to type into google and click through 5 pages to install firefox
you just go sudo pacman -S firefox and 10 seconds later you have firefox

>>107134298
Mint lost, mintgger

>>107134394
It's like the winning-est distro ever Anon,

>>107134256
You mean like .deb and .appimage??

>>107133994
>>107134024
wayland sisters, oh, nooooo XD
i still use x.org myself

>>107130962
"I don't like x on linux because y" is such a meme.

>>107133511
>trusting the faggot shill site that has PoopOS and windows clones like Anduin and Zorin in the top 10
Kill yourself.

I will never use Loonix until there's a single, objectively correct choice that everyone can agree on.

>>107135637
Choice paralysis havin ass nigga

>>107135637
Price of freedom. It's up to YOU to decide what you want to roll with, not what everyone else is flocking towards to.

cachyos

what is so important to you that you have to get "le gaming distro"?

>>107117738 (OP)
windows was never good

>>107135748
>Windows is garbage
>need alternative
>it's not enough like the garbage I want to leave
Pottery, Luke Smith is right, It's like people come off Windows, and want to bring the same mentality and way of doing things that got Windows the way it is over to Linux, it's like bro just keep using shitty ass Windows then because you're clearly not about Linux if you want to have a big daddy corpo that decides what everybody has.

>>107135848
Sounds like people this decade
>Flee shithole you ruined
>move to a much better establishment
>complain about how it just doesn't feel like home
>proceed to make it a shithole
>complain about how this place reminds them of their shithole country they fled from

>>107123892
If I could only show someone three videogames by which to judge the medium Portal 2 would be one of the picks.

>cachyos

is this thing bloated like pop os?

>>107135918
Wasn't cachy sponsored by jewflare?

>>107135918
Slightly bloated with some hello app, gui pacman wrapper and kernel scheduler
But pretty much just arch with some pre setup and better repo

Linux and foot smegma eating GNU is for /g/ hikkis. Working men use windows and get job done from day one

>thread

>>107136812
>i'm a faggot, the post