Thread 107148744

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut

>RAM
*Prices and therefore recommendations are for the time being in flux
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)
-Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), Gigabyte MO27Q28G or LG 27GX700A-B (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Omissions
-9800X3D: ~10% improvement in gaming over a 7800X3D (which is still in production)
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080
-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070
-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

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>>107142854

5070ti still has driver issues

>>107148763
fake news

>>107148748
>all white components
>buy a BBC 5090

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/f2fDGJ
I buy now chat

>>107148783
You could maybe wait to see if the 14600k goes on sale for $150ish (usd) again

>>107148768
real news. 5070ti and 5080 still have driver problems on windows and linux that are unresolved.

>>107148783
7 weeks left untill 2026 and you'll still buy ddr4 platform..

>>107148812
>still coping after 6 months
its never too late to sell your 9070xt and buy a 5070ti anon

>>107148812
never ever had any problem with nvidia cards.

>>107148783
>no igp
>unlocked cpu with locked board
>16 gb ram
>1 tb ssd
>arc

>>107148812
Nvidia is the biggest company in the world or something. I'm sure they'll figure it out soon :)

>>107148835
>no igp
>unlocked cpu with locked board
>1 tb ssd
>arc

All fine tbqh desu

>>107148836
the problems would have to be real in order for them to fix them

Is Fancontrol safe to use on windows now?

>>107148796
Im done waitfagging i missed the build window
>>107148824
>>107148835
This pc will only be used for 4chan, porn and dota I believe i dont need to spend more than 1k cad to enjoy my hobbies

>>107148958
if that motheboard or RAM breaks in a year your only option will be buying used.

>>107148980
the fuck are you talking about

>>107148980
Recommend something better tbqh i just hit filter lowest price and picked parts that fit my budget

>That's why I'm waiting for the next generation, 69 is the perfect number.
I also wanted to do this but then I found myself without a computer. At least now's a decent time to build, if only because shit is expected to hit the fan next year.

>>107149029
if shit's hitting the fans then you need better wire management

DDR5 prices are actually crazy right now. A 32 GB kit that was $110 is now $190, and it's one of the cheapest. That's a 73% increase. DDR5 has a pretty long life ahead of it, as AM6 won't arrive for another couple of years and the next Intel platform will still launch with DDR5. GDDR7 is basically tied to the same supply chain, and next gen cards will still use GDDR7. Either this shit gets sorted out or it will add another $150 (~10%) to even a midrange build

>>107148763
You still have mental illness to obsess about NVIDIA drivers.

>realize I maybe not wanna risk buying a 2k herman miller if they aren't ideal and I haven't tried them on
>someone left a literal 2k tier office chair outside my building not long ago and I guess they didn't want it but it was dark so could not confirm if it was exactly that chair
>why did I not just take that chair for free
it's over I should have gotten a free office chair, way better

Think I should try and force this in my 6700K system, or wait patiently for the rest of the computer?

>>107148744 (OP)
What are some good internal optical disk drives that work with blu rays?

>>107148867
I just glanced at reddit earlier and there were lots of complaints about it. Some new patch that fucked things up and some new drm program. I'm staying away for now until things calm down.

>>107149009
No reason to buy a dead and superseded platform brand new better off buying used if you go down that road.

What are your PC purchase regrets?

>>107149087
Probably had bed bugs in it. Once you get bed bugs once you'll never take any free shit again. Nothing is worth taking that risk.

>>107149142
Scrolling 4chan is always laggy, wishing I had gotten a 9950x3d instead of the 9800.

>>107149142
Oled tv as monitor. Mostly because of the price.

>>107149142
I once bought a 4870X2
It literally never worked, most games would refuse to engage the second GPU and even with a single GPU, it still had all of ATI's driver issues.
Cooling was terrible, and I remember struggling to get 40FPS in Age of Conan at the time.

It finally just stopped working entirely after 9 months and I got a 560Ti instead.

>>107148744 (OP)
really now what kind of retard puts the filter on the exhaust side?

>>107149142
thankfully never bought any of those

>>107148958
I don't see how you don't have something good enough to play DotA2 and watch porn right now. Wipe and reinstall Wangblows, get an SSD if you don't have one, and dust all your fans and heatsinks.

>>107149151
>wishing I had gotten a 9950x3d instead of the 9800

Is there much difference for gaming?

>>107149202
He's definitely meming

>>107148958
send it

>>107149191
>Age of Conan
Man that brings me back, I miss when devs weren't afraid to try new stuff.

>>107149192
That's an intake fan

>>107149142
Thinking I could use an Intel Atom "Pineview" processor to run home automation back in 2012.

>i never recovered psychologically from the ordeal
>ended up putting Puppy Linux on the damn thing and donating it

>>107149202
Ironically 9950x3d is more likely to cause stutters on the desktop because of it having 2 CCXs

>>107149212
Hell yeah.

>>107149207
I'm not, I still haven't done most of the optimization for my computer yet. Mostly because I don't know what to do. But I've saved up hundreds of youtube videos about tech stuff over the last few years. I'm slowly working my way through them to see if there is any useful information. I'm afraid to try these windows optimization overhauls though, feel like it's just going to get rid of things I would be better off keeping or change things for no real benefit.
Haven't played any games yet, but so far I'm not that impressed with the new computer. It still lags when scrolling which I thought I would finally be free from. I have tried turning on and off gpu acceleration it doesn't seem to make a difference.

>>107149213
no shit it's being used as an intake fan

THE FILTER IS ON THE EXHAUST SIDE OF THE FAN

thats just... O.P. why did you have to post such horrible gore .. why...

>>107149236
Blud there's no practical difference between a 9800X3D and a 9950X3D for web browsing. You are trolling and I'm feeding

>>107149266
Not trolling just not tech savvy, I asked here before and multiple people said the 9800 was bad at multi tasking and doing things other than playing games. They said the 99500 was better because it had more cores so shit would just run smoother. I have no knowledge beyond what I've heard here just parroting what others have said. If it's not true than I'm glad I went with the cheaper option. But I still can't get my browser to run smoothly and it's frustrating.

My ram finally shipped, took a week. Kingston Fury Beast 2x16 6000 cl30 for $153.

>>107149266
>429

>>107149142
When I got the hd7950 over the gtx570
It was plagued with driver problems, underperformed and had the infamous GCN frame timing issue. It finally killed itself after 3 years and I moved to the far improved gtx980 afterwards

>>107149142
HD2600 Pro AGP.
512mb memory didn't matter since it's DDR2. Slower than the X800XT 256mb that I was trying to replace because I didn't know better.

>>107149236
Install the Radeon drivers
https://www.amd.com/en/support/downloads/drivers.html/processors/ryzen/ryzen-9000-series/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d.html
Chipset drivers (this is X870, pick whatever chipset you have)
https://www.amd.com/en/support/downloads/drivers.html/chipsets/am5/x870.html
Export your browser profile and reinstall whatever browser you're using if you're not on a fresh install already

>>107149103
Depends on how long you'd have to wait.
If it's 1~2 weeks, I'd wait.

>>107149272
more cores above 8 only helps in specific situations which doesnt include web browsing
>t. 13900k and 9800x3d haver

>>107149272
noob

>you'll be fine
>study what the change does before you make changes
>keep notes about what you change and how to change it back
>use system restore points in windows
>back up your documents and stuff
>keep both a reinstall and emergency boot media handy
>soon you too will be a wizzard

>>107149312
Waiting till pay day on the 23rd. Honestly, looking at it, I don't think it'd fit into my InWin 805.

But it would be really funny.

>>107149103
Install it and run some stress tests to ensure its not a lemon

>>107149310
I installed these first thing when I started it up. Are these the same thing? Those ones you linked seem more for a gpu and I'm using an nvidia card. Do I need those drivers as well?

>>107149266
>AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
the first is like 45 bucks and the others are like 100 what's the difference?

>>107148744 (OP)
>14900K clocks and tdp
>locked SKUs only
I really don't get what intel's product managers are thinking

>>107148744 (OP)
>AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
the first is like 45 bucks and the others are like 100 what's the difference?

>>107149142
There was a rumor about the GTX 980 Ti being skipped/canceled just like the recent rumors of RTX 50 Super cards being canceled (updated rumor claims they're delayed to Q3 26).
I bought the GTX 980 4GB less than six months before the 980 Ti 6GB was released.

>>107149146
maybe, then the commie building would have a visit from the guys who spray for that shit

>>107149170
ok let's hear your complaints

>>107149367
980ti buyers also got screwed when nvidia launched the much cheaper and faster gtx1070 8gb

>>107149343
The graphics drivers I linked are for the integrated graphics on the CPU. The integrated graphics might even be disabled if you're using a discrete GPU. You should check in BIOS to see whether or not it's disabled. If it's not disabled, you could disable it and not worry about drivers, or you could have it enabled and split workloads between your Nvidia card and the iGP. For example, you can run a second monitor off the iGP. This is one way to get around refresh rate conflicts, if for example you have a 60 Hz secondary monitor and a 144 Hz primary monitor.

>oh no old cards are worse value than new cards
>how could this happen

>9800X3D
>9070 XT

Are AMD CPU+GPU builds good?

>>107149386

980 Ti came out almost 10 years ago and we've just now gotten to the point where it literally can't play some new games (Alan Wake 2).

>GeForce 7950 GT - 512 MB, GDDR3, 256 bit
>GeForce 8800 Ultra - 768 MB, GDDR3, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX - 512 MB, GDDR3, 256 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590 - 1536 MB, GDDR5, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690 (dual GPU card)- 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti - 6 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti - 11 GB, GDDR5X, 352 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11 GB GDDR6
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 - 32 GB

>>107149103
may as well JAM IT IN

>>107149324
Here is an example of what I was talking about with my browser being laggy. It's actually not doing it on 4chan right this second it comes and goes. But if I try a reddit page it looks like absolute shit. I'm on a 9800x3d/64gb expo enabled ram and a 5080. There must be some setting or something I am missing. Often 4chan looks just like this when I am scrolling.
https://litter.catbox.moe/j314dfec9a1ma8pt.gif

>>107149103
just wait anon

>>107149427
Matching brand doesn't really matter
You get some extremely minor benefits from AMD+AMD or Intel+Intel, but not enough to affect purchasing decisions.

>>107148744 (OP)
>Monitor
>KTC H25X7
>can overclock to 400hz
>costs less than a viewsonic XG2431 and has more Hz
Okay, what's the catch?

>>107149220
nope, poor cope. CCD1 is used for desktop and you set CCD0 for gaymen. It's better in every regard

>want a chair with adjustable arm rests
>wide but normal flat base
>that will be 2000€ minimum and come with quirks on each and every single one
I don't wanna buy furniture..... I am tired I just wanna consoom hardware

>>107149142
cheaping out on a bronze psu that fried itself after I put a usb-c connector into a usb-a slot
buying several gaming laptops for years
not buying a 12400 when they were like $110 last year
buying an all white desk mat, that was real retarded

>>107149380
VRR flicker, ABL, HDR can look washed out in daylight, too big. But most importantly I'd save lots of money if I just buy a basic bitch IPS monitor because I dont even care much about picture quality when I game.

>>107149465
not clickin' that link anon

post it here

>>107149509
If your spending more than 5 hours in the chair a day you really should spend at least a grand on it.

You get what you pay for.

Had someone say "why you spend so much on chair" I spend more time in this thing than I do my car and that costs 56x more.

>>107149524
It's just a gif of me scrolling, people post catbox all the time. It's too big to post on 4chan and I don't know how to shrink it down to 4mb.

>>107149465
Disable EXPO and test. Anytime you're dealing with instability, revert all overclocks. Regardless, I have a much older system than yours and I don't have any problems with scrolling. 99% chance it's some kind of user error, be it settings or otherwise.

>>107149509
look for used office furniture resellers, anon. i got my Steelcase Leap chair for 1/3 the price of new

>they even cleaned all the drool off of it

>>107149266
>429
9800x3d better stick to games and frames shits the bed everywhere else

>>107149465
New reddit always run like dogshit atleast on firefox for me.

1440p60 is all you need

>>107149520
Not him but

>vrr flicker
Don't play games that stutter
>abl
Don't use HDR on desktop, games and video only
>hdr looks washed out
????
>too big
True, because you bought a TV as a monitor

>I dont even care much about picture quality
Play some games that have decent HDR implementations. I'm playing RE:VIllage, and if you can get the HDR to work properly, there are a lot of bright highlights and high contrast scenes

>ram prices double in 1 month
what the fuck

>>107148783
I still suggest the AMD AI max 385 from framework. It's just a better PC (except price, and it's maybe 10% weaker on the GPU side, but if you tried to get 32gb, your PC would be overpriced).
But like I said, the 5070 (or the 9070 XT) would destroy b580, 5060 and the AMD AI max 385. And it's the main reason why the AI max 385, 5060, and b580 are hard to recommend.
>5070 is $800 CAD
Yes, that's $400 more. For 1.5-2x the performance ($800 cad is $500 USD).
I would recommended a 5070 for a 1440p 180hz display (but the b580 and AMD AI max will run it 'ok', but you should stick to 1080p for the best experience + price).
If you just spent 20% more on your budget, or waited, you could have gotten 1.5-2x more fps.

>>107149584
My LG C1 only has 800 nits and it's not even true hdr. ABL happens in game too and can cut off specular highlight which defeats the purpose of HDR anyway. Sure the picture looks better than any other display if you put them next to each other but when I play game I dont tend to think about how it'd look like on other display and just get used to it.

>>107149598
People keep saying SSDs are gonna go up too.

>>107149610
I don't think 1 & 2 TB NVMe drive prices will be affected too much, but prices for ones with DRAM will go up in a few months.

>>107149630
Not him, they're climbing
https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/internal-hard-drive/#storage.ssdm2nvme.1000

>>107149607
You dont need a 5070 to play fucking dota at 1080p.

>>107149598
I think it's interesting how you can look at around the Black Friday sales on these charts and see that it's really pretty minor these days.

>>107149664
you don't need anything to play dota on 1080p, i'm pretty sure a steamdeck could hit 120fps (this is equal to a 8600g APU, 1/4th the power of the b580).
I will admit, my 20% more for 1.5-2x more performance is wrong.
$1200 to $1600 is a 50% higher price.
But it's up to you, I think the AMD AI max is solid (it's basically the same price if you got 32gb of ram), the 5070 is too much for dota, but even the 5070 struggles to play games at a high FPS, surely you want to pirate a couple AAA games, and sure you might give up after 30 mins because the game is shit, but at least your gpu didn't run at 30fps.
What are your current specs? and if it's a laptop, what model and CPU + GPU is it?

>>107148783
Just send it.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9vLjwY

>>107149353
No one knows how Thermalright will handle customer support if the need arises with their AIOs.
There are also question marks over the QC of those cheaper AIOs.

Performance-wise, not that big of a difference.
Arctic is recommended because they frequently offer decent discounts & they have a proven track record of providing good customer support.
Lian Li AIO is another questionable product wrt QC & support given their past track record, but their new AIO performs very well.

>>107149673
I work in Amazon marketing for a living.
Part of the job abusing Amazon's "list price" and discount features to create fake discounts.
If you buy an item on 20% or less discount in a holiday, the chances are good the discount is entirely fake and it was the same price 2 months before.
If you see an item that says something crazy like 50% discount or more, it's probably actually just a 5-10% discount. Nobody has margins big enough to give a real 50% discount on any occasion, ever.

>>107149762
Im not that guy but he told me earlier he only plays dota. He probably just need more RAM, ethernet cable and a better SSD.

I have a 4060 currently, is the 5060ti worth it? Are there any caveats since my system is pretty old - i7 7700

>>107149764
>>>*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5

The AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D was released on November 7, 2024. The processor was officially announced and became available for purchase on this date, with an MSRP of $479 or $480.

>>107149818
HDV/M.2 boards should be safe; it's a budget board with stricter PBO settings according to ASRock.
It's a popular B650M board, and there have been very few (if any) reports of that board killing Ryzen CPUs.

How much would you pay for a r7 5700x?

>>107149055
>AM6
This might be getting pushed back to 2029. Last socket of the decade.

>>107148783
>>107149764
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jznwRV

>>107149810
>worth it?
no

>>107149767
Thank you.

>>107149103
Depends on your return window.

>>107149849
hooray

>>107149762
>>107149196
im using picrel, it freezes up when a lot of things are happening on screen, random fps drops and connectivity issues especially when first starting up the game(for some reason it crashes every first match i get)
thanks for the suggestions but i would rather spend the difference on a monitor, keyboard and other shit i might need
>>107149797
decided to get a 2tb instead of 1 as its only $30+ more, as for ram i dont think i could go higher than 16 due to the insane prices now

>>107149810
if your games run fine, no it's a bad option.
if your games don't run fine, check utilization, note that some games can't utilize CPU cores that well, and that will cause the CPU and GPU to be underutilized (you can see that only specific Cores are being used 100%).
if the game is using more close to 8gb of vram, maybe the 5060 TI 16gb would fix some fps issues, but you could just reduce game settings to lowest and it should fit below 8gb.

>>107149142
Only regret is not buying more PC parts. Could easily have done one or two more builds over the years. Instead I used a shitty laptop.
Never had a part crap out on me or anything awful like that. Biggest thing I can think of is getting a cheap CM CPU cooler back in the day that had "great value" but was fucking loud as shit.

Do you people use heatsink on gen 4 nvme?

>>107149926
Just the ones integrated with the motherboard cover plates, but those are mediocre at best compared to the proper heatsinks.

>>107149507
The only poor cope here is window's scheduler

>>107149948
My motherboard only has one and already used it on the main drive with OS on. This one only used to install games on. The problem is it's right underneath the gpu and i don't think s good heatsink would fit.

>pcpartpicker list suddenly shot up $150
>wtf why
>RAM I picked is out of stock
>next store it switched to is double the price

>>107149644
>it's starting...

this is insane i'm gonna go buy ram off facebook fuck this shit

>>107149978
Sir send me money first sir I need money for gas I'll bring to your house sir very good working ram thank you sir.

holy shit i've never seen so many fake listings for fucking ram

>>107149962
This Arctic heatsink looks thin enough, better than nothing if you're worried about controller temps.
Change the seller to Arctic Inc.
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-M2-Pro-Compatible-Single-Sided/dp/B09VH29PR1

>>107149899
can you not try for an x3d chip? it's like made for valve games

>>107149892
If you're in the US, check out Arctic's official B-Stock (Open Box) AIOs.
Arctic is most likely reselling new AIOs that were returned due to fitment issues (thick radiator & some motherboard compatibility issues).
The open box AIOs are supported with the same 6-year warranty.
https://www.ebay.com/str/arcticofficialstoreusa/Refurbished-Offers/_i.html?store_cat=77967344013

>>107149899
Yeah, sorry for badgering you about the AMD AI max, I did the numbers and it's clearly $300 more than it should be ($1600)
If you want something gimmicky and weaker, you could get a legion go s for $800 CAD, it is half the GPU of the b580, but I think it's perfectly usable as a main PC, if you store your games on a nvme usb 4 enclosure (the enclosure costs $60 cad), and you can plug it into a monitor (you probably want to buy a usb hub, make sure the hub supports DP alt mode, which would cost~ $100 CAD... and I bet it needs a charger too).
But having a battery is essential if you live somewhere with brownouts.

>>107149103
I tried, but there's not enough PCI cables to merge the 3 into 1 adapter.

Also, even if just for two weeks, that's way too much weight to be hanging unsupported.

>>107149673
>>107149777
Get the Keepa extension, it opens up a little box below an amazon product that lets you see what the price has historically been so you don't get tricked by fake sales.
When something on amazon says 40% off that just means it's 40% of whatever the last listed price was but that might be a super jacked up price so it's just back down to it's normal price and not an actual sale.

>>107149919
How do you check core and vram utilization?

Asked a few times and never really got an answer

Are there any monitors that exist with all of or nearly all of the following features:

>Non-OLED
>4k
>31in or larger, ideally 34-36in
>Supports hardware color calibration
>has at least 95% DCIP3 and Adobe RGB Coverage, ideally with both over 97%
>Supports VRR
>Ideally 72, 90, or 120+hz, but I'm fine with 60hz as long as VRR works between 30 and 60fps
>Is under 2000$ roughly, ideally under $1500 or even less
>Ideally doesn't have terrible response times

Or giving up on hardware color calibration, if the Adobe RGB coverage is 99%-100%?

The closest ones I've found are the Asus Proart PA32UCDM (perfect, aside from maybe the Adobe RGB coverage, but it's OLED and I worry about burn in), some of the Proart PA32UCX (only issue is they're 60hz and 5ms response time gray to gray, not sure what its VRR range is), the Samsung Odyssey G7/G70B S32BG70 (but it lacks hardware calibration, I assume) and the Gigabyte AORUS FV43U (which is nearly perfect, aside from no hardware calibration I assume and the fact it's fucking huge, 43in)

Is there anything that's a closer fit then those or is this pretty much it?

>>107149962
I got these and they fit under my gpu. They seem to work well but who knows. https://a.co/d/inxEwua

>>107150092
affiliate link?

>>107150144
No it's just a shortened link, here's what it is.

>>107148783
>intel cpu
don't do it

>>107150080
I think windows + G has a game overlay, and steam has something as well.
but if that doesn't work, task manager shows you stuff.
I personally like msi afterburner, but it's annoying to set up.

>>107149266
>comparing browser speed
>not assigning browser and other background tasks to ccd1
God I hate you fags, it's like you don't even understand why this shit is so cool.

>>107150176
calm down spaz

>>107150092
>>107150146
I don't understand people that use these. You will never, ever saturate a NVMe lane with consumer grade hardware. Which means it will never get hot enough for it to be a problem.
Especially Gen 4 NVMe.

>>107148744 (OP)
The impossible choice.

>>107150264
XTX is dead because a quality upscaler is essential weather you like it or not

>>107150236
They were 5 bucks and can't hurt.

>>107150272
True, I guess. Maybe I'm just a penny-pincher and I could have used that $5 for something else.

>>107150264
I went from a 6900XT to a 9070XT and it's easily 30-40% better overall, some games with FSR4 support absolutely FLY.

>>107150264
There's no point in paying more than $600 for a 7900 XTX, it's dead.

is buying simple zipties for cable management worth it? thinking about not being an ape in my upcoming build this week and organizing everything neatly

>>107150315
My case came with some, but I don't like them because they are too permanent a solution and a pain to undo. Get a roll of velcro ties so you can redo or make modifications without having to cut stuff.

>>107150315
I practice the 'if-i-cant-see-it-it's-not-a-problem' philosophy.
Plus I also manage a shit ton of home servers and cable management for each one will never work.
You could also just use some twine if you have some in the kitchen if you don't want to pay for more shit.

>>107150327
sounds like a much better idea, thanks anon, I'll buy some

>>107149505
That its a 1080p IPS

>>107149465
>he found out

>>107149507
did you test it yourself

>>107149519
>buying several gaming laptops for years
I have nothing to complain desu

>>107149520
>VRR flicker
oled issue, not tv related
>ABL
can be solved if bought non shit tv, or adjust your settings, kind of, but yeah, obviously inherent
>HDR can look washed out in daylight
monitor will be even more washed, buy a brighter tv
>too big.
further away
>But most importantly I'd save lots of money if I just buy a basic bitch IPS monitor because I dont even care much about picture quality when I game.
lmao! you... sound like me. what the helly

>>107149530
I mean realistically all waking time at home except when in a bed will be on it so yes
but that is no guarantee that you will like it even if it's expensive
that's the upsetting part

>>107149540
yeah 2k is now 1k
prices are cooked no matter
price is not even the main thing now you have to trail and error this shit because you have to check out every single one (fomo)

>>107149563
you mean 4k

>>107150403
>fomo
ja ok, I knew I wanted the Leap after my work got us all a bunch of them.

>>107150403
>he found out
I refuse to believe that my 10 year old computer can handle scrolling a browser but not a brand new one. I'll find whatever gay setting is fucking with me one of these days.

planning an upgrade, gonna keep my video card and ram since i just bought 64gb. Whats the current price to performance choice for motherboard and cpu? also, any big ol cases without rgb troonery? i wanna stick like a million hds in

>>107148763
that's a man

>>107150403
>you have to trail and error this shit because you have to check out every single one
Not him, but I would if I could do this. There are no sellers that sells those high-end office chairs so I can't test them. I'm still undecided on Steelcase Leap or Herman Miller Embody. I can't test them so I still don't know if they're right for me. And I am not buying used chairs, ever.

>>107150459
DDR4? Fractal Define and some Cooler Master cases offer more HDD cages.
AMD AM4: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dR9BWc
Intel LGA1700: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dKxdTM

Picked boards with at least 6 SATA ports.
You might need to use the BIOS flashback feature to make the MSI motherboard work with the 14600K CPU.

>>107150608
thank you kindly nonny

>>107150567
Furniture is the biggest rip-off.

The Leap can probably be found cheaper.

>works for my 190lb/86kg ass
>mine is pic related

>>107150315
Bro, it's literally five bucks for a hundred. I've seen setups here were ONE zip tie would make a world of difference.

thought id look for an update for my 4 year old rtx 3060... theyre still selling for the same price new? wtf, i thought i could spend like 600aud and get a decent upgrade

>>107150711
do yourself a favor and get the 1000 pack
then you can even give some to your bros and it will be fine, you got 1000 of them cunts

>>107150687
im 270lb

>>107149235
Fuck Styggers.

>>107150754
why

>>107150773
Sorry, typo. I'm 207lb. I'm 170cm, or 5'7''.
Also living in Canada so I have to get this shit shipped from America. So, fuck me, that's like an extra $600.

>>107150834
>have to get this shit shipped from America
that seems silly.
if its really that bad, order from /NOT/ america

207 at 5 7 is still pretty thicc

>>107150754
Leap Adjustable Task Chair weight limit is 400 lb

>so, should hold up to an average /b/ poster clutching an onahole
>have pic actually related but this is an SFW board

>>107150844
I don't think there's an online retailer in Canada for Steelcase. I think there's one for Herman Miller but shipping isn't free.

>>107150264
because whichever you choose, you lose

>>107148748
good job on censoring it anon

>>107151110
What was even censored?

>>107148744 (OP)
Why isn't the 9800x3d recommended?

Would I feel any difference between a 9600X and 9700X? The latter is ~60 euros more expensive. Doesn't look like it matters for gaming but what about general use? What if there's a good black friday deal?

Also are x3d cpus a meme? I see that they're much better in SOME games but at 2x the price. Looks like I'm better off getting a 9600X now and upgrading it later.

what the heck
I actually went though and tried to build an equivalent desktop to a laptop I was looking at and it comes out to pretty much the same price...
I thought they said gaming laptops got you half the performance for twice the cost

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sKTVMC

what is going on, have i been lied to all this time?

>>107151263
have fun with constant thermal throttling and therefore shitty performance compared to the pc

>>107151132
OP just being retarded

>>107151189
>Would I feel any difference between a 9600X and 9700X?
The 8-cores are a decent investment if you do occasional/hobbyist n-thread work but they don't make much difference for gaming/web/office.

>Also are x3d cpus a meme?
Depends on your budget. Obviously don't sacrifice the card for CPU but if you've got, for example, 5070Ti money $200 can't get you into a substantially better card so spending it on the CPU is reasonable. Or, of course, if you play a lot of naturally CPU-bound games that benefit from the 3D cache.

>Looks like I'm better off getting a 9600X now and upgrading it later
Solid plan.

GPU Risers and Vertical mounts
Yeh or neh?

The stock support for the Sapphire 9070XT feels kinda iffy. Do you /g/ods recommend a support for this one?

>>107150090
I know your requirements because they are largely my own requirements but you missed a few points:
>DC-like dimming/flicker free
>integrated environment light sensor for dynamic adjustment of contrast, brightness, color temperature
>at least 12bit LUT in the monitor for fine color gradation.

As far as Im aware the monitor does not exist. So every monitor sucks

>>107151430
you do you anon

>>107151136
Because OP is a contrarian retard

>>107151472
I'm asking you anon. :3


Please respond

>>107151443
Anything, literally ANYTHING that is firm with the slightest of give
The famous meme of a stack of legos, a piece of hardware cardboard tubing (not a toilet paper roll), a pencil cut to size, a piece of plastic tubing sturdy enoguh, a 2$ gpu anti sag from your local chink hardware store that sells shit from temu and aliexpress, a 7$ from amazon, a toy figure that fits
You can then use a level to check how finely aligned it is

>>107151493
its no different than RGB shit
you're paying more for aesthetics and I'm not going to tell you how you want your computer to look

Any reason to get 2x2TB nvmes instead of 1x4TB?

>>107151505
>you're paying more for aesthetics
and worse cooling

>>107151506
if you like wasting m.2 slots

>>107151486
i used to be a 9800x3d hater, i still believe that is largely not worth it if you have to stick to a budget but i have stopped hating it. Its not a massive increase on price so its worth considering if you want an upgrade and have an extra 80$ to spend but not 300$

>>107151518
hmm

I have to pick an x870 mobo for a deal from a local store, i have checked online and it seems a fairly common deal offered to a lot of retailers but this one also gives me a discount since its a family friend

I know i have to skip the m2.2 line cause it shares bandwidth with the gpu slot so my 2 drives go in m2.1 and m2.3. No problems so far

My question is about that last pcie expansion slot. There is one or the other i can have another hard drive OR whatever goes in that pcie expansion slot. Because if the m2.4 is in use the pcie is not usable and goes off.

What shit might go in there other than a 2nd gpu that i would never pick, are there any other commonly used component that might need that expansion slot?

Im still learning sorry if the quesion is retarded

>>107151549
commonly used? not much nowadays
could just be a riser for another m.2 ssd, or a fast network card, sound card, capture card, sata controller

>>107151349
ty

KTC M27P6 or ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG27UCDM? For PC gaming I have AMD 7950x3d and 5070ti, for console I have PS5 pro, and I also work from home so work pc would also be plugged into that. Quite hard for me to make a decision as I have never gamed on an oled. I have read a lot about oleds and the vrr flicker issues that most have along with the one i mentioned are really driving me away from it along with the price being double of the KTC one, other than that the asus seems like a nice pick. Thus far i have only gamed on very low end ips panels

>>107151544
i can understand that, the fact remains that the "extra" they provide is the x3d and thats covered by the 7800, so you are paying that extra money for a bit more of oomph and that money might be better on other parts.
I did mention that my point was when you have to stick to a budget. If at the end of your planned build you still have some cash to spend,i understand considering it but again if you are on a budget there will be probably other parts you skimmed on.
I agree that it gets too much hate, but i can see where the hate is coming from.

This is Meisei who is missing the november tournament due to a herniated disc.

>>107150090
These were found by an AI with web search:
>BenQ SW321C
>ASUS ProArt PA32...
>AOC Graphic Pro U32U3CV
The Asus models have everything, besides the price.

>>107151518
9800X3D is just the maximum cpu power eliminating the likelyhood for any cpu related stutter and its for 470$ or something. If you want peak performance in a GPU you need to pay like 3k for a 5090. 9800X3D also is not a house burner chip like the 14900KS or other such abominatioms.

do subtimings besides Cas Latency matter as much?

>>107151505
What about if you have a Push/Pull GPU?

>>107151624
They do even more on Zen5

>>107151279
It's not going to throttle. They can at the very least avoid that. It's just going to be noisy as hell, sit on a desk the whole time, then finally break in a way that you can't do anything about, at which point good luck dealing with Lenovo. The whole time you're going to be thinking
>what if i just had a desktop instead

>>107150315
>>107150711
>>107150744
You don't really need zipties

>>107150744
the real favor is getting the reusable ones so you don't have to cut it if you want to change something

>decided to buld a new rig
>decided what to buy , prepped the list
>ordered my rams , ssds , even a cpu air cooler
>couple of days ago i realized that windows has been cucking my rig with the "power settings" and running it on balanced mode . through cmd i added a "high performance mode"
>now i can play my games at 60-70 fps at low such as sm2 , bf6 and finals at medium 70-80 fps
GOD I FUCKING HATE WINDOWS im definitely going to switch to linux bazzite in my next full amd system

>>107151544
10-15 fps more at 2k wowzers !

Do monitors usually get good sales around black Friday/cyber Monday? I have a monitor in mind, but I'm wondering if I should get it now or wait for a possible sale at the end of the month

>>107151775
i assume the least popular models will, there are so many models of screens
but i dont expect the commonly recommended ones to get any discount

>>107151775
Yeah. I bought dell g27d24 last year a week before black friday for a pretty low price, it was usually 200 but they dropped it to like 160 in october and then I thought I missed but then they dropped it to 150 the week before black friday. Rakuten had 4% cash back and my credit card had extra cash back too, turned out pretty well. Was a very good monitor.

>>107151443
Your case literally has built in GPU support, are you retarded?

when is the Gigabyte MO27Q28G going to be available in the US? does anyone know?

>>107151549
10gbit lan maybe

>>107151624
if your asking about primary timings, tRCD and tRP have a stronger effect than tCAS. tRAS is not used and is useless on zen4 and zen5

>>107151624
Just changing trefi alone can boost your fps by like 15%

Is the Alienware AW2725DM a good 27 inch 1440p monitor? Anything else I should consider at $190?

Anything wrong with this mobo from this msi deal?

https://us-store.msi.com/Motherboards/AMD-Platform-Motherboard/B850-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

Can get it for 170$ and then add a 9800x3d for 400$ or 7800x3d for 300$

>>107151575
>>107152080
Okay, seems i was right on my choice then cause with the discount and shit its a very good deal and is good knowing that even if im to cover that last m2 slot that expansion slot is not something i will ever need
ty anons

>>107152192
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#A=2,5&C=0&D=160000,600000&F=685800000&P=2&r=256001440

Is my poverty tier monitor pcpp search
>27" ips 166hz+ 1440p

pick your country and then check if there is anything worth checking on your budget

>>107152192
KTC H27T22S
>>107152215
Mobo is fine

Xiaomi G Pro i27 is it good? It says its miniled which some anons here tend to favor. Any opinions? 1440p 27" miniled

Looking at getting a 9070 XT, deciding between the following:
Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT
ASUS PRIME AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT

I'm leaning towards the asus card, it has a smaller form factor and 3x 8 pins compared to the sapphire.
Been using sapphire cards for decades but the power layout on the nitro is hot garbage
In addition, this is probably the ugliest generation of sapphire cards I've ever seen

>>107152350
Prices? Imo just get the cheaper one. 9070s are usually overpriced atm

>>107152350
Yea I wouldn't get the Nitro with that 12vhpwr. Any particular reason why those are the 2 you are choosing between? I'd get the Yeston Sakura Atlantis.
https://yestonstore.com/products/yeston-sakura-atlantis-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16g-gddr6-256bit-4nm-video-cards-desktop-computer-pc-graphics-card
(I got the non-xt version).

>>107152393
>I'd get the Yeston Sakura Atlantis.
is there any hetero version?

Hi /pcbg/ I'm looking for a new monitor for my 5080.
Which 1440p 27" 165/180hz IPS would you recommend?

>>107152361
>>107152393
New Zealand so options are limited
I'll add approx USD
Asus: $1,580 / ~$890 USD
Sapphire: $1650 / ~$930 USD

I've usually just defaulted to whatever sapphire nitro is the current gen but if looking outside that box might as well throw a 5070 option in the mix
ASUS PRIME NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti OC $1780 / ~ $1000 USD

>>107152404
That is the hetero version. This is the homo version:
https://yestonstore.com/products/yeston-game-ace-radeon-rx-9060-xt-16gb-gddr6-128bit-video-cards-desktop-computer-pc-video-graphics-card

>>107152414
>>107152350
the cheapest 9070xt is always the best one

>>107152414
Funnily enough I'm also in New Zealand. The Yeston one would be about $1350 after shipping (USD $25) and currency conversion. I wasn't charged tax on mine.

>>107152414
>New Zealand
It's over (your prices would make me suicidal)
>t. Aussie

>>107152414
punching power the 9070xt will be ahead of the 5070 (non TI) so only consider that one if you need nvidia features imo.
I personally would just pick the asus, i cant imagine those extra 40 bucks being a mark of the sapphire being any better

>>107152414
I don't think your options are so limited that there are only 2.
https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=592&sort=price&page=1
Get the steel legend?
I wouldn't get a 5070ti since they are kinda overpriced here (and in most other places outside the US).

for AM5 motherboards, I remember being told CL30 being the best
is it specifically optimal or does less=better still apply?

>>107152215
Not PCIe 5.0 on GPU slot if you care about it. Its pretty much b650.

>>107152331
IPS and miniled is not ideal combination. Causes worse blooming than VA minileds which have higher native contrast and therefore lower (but still noticeable) blooming.

>>107150071
should have went with a seasonic PSU, they sell 2x 8pin to 12vhpwr adapters.

>>107152493
Isnt steel legend like worst 9070 xt version? Hot and loud.

>>107152517
Lower is better. It's just that 6000CL30 (or CL32) guarantees Hynix A-die (2x16gb) or M-die (2x24gb)
6000cl26 and cl28 are better but they cost a lot more for single percentage gains.

>>107152429
It is sounding like the case here

>>107152438
Taking a look at Yeston, might gamble on a no tax import
Any idea what the support is like if I need to RMA in future?

>>107152464
Yea, our dollar continues to tank

>>107152469
I can probably rule out sapphire at this point

>>107152493
I've steered clear of Asrock after having a lot of issues with various products of theirs in the past.
To be fair, haven't tried any of their GPUs though

Where can I get start on learning how to AI gen porn?
Against my better judgement I order a 5090 and I dont even play much fps

>>107152650
you wasted your money. thats all online now. even m1 macs can do this stuff.

>>107152781
>thats all online now
>Sorry, but I can't proceed with that request.

>>107152650
> I dont even play much fps
try playing path traced alan wake 2, cyberpunk

>>107152650
Like >>107152805 said. Might as well max some games out. If you can afford it the 5090 will serve you for a very long time. The Future looks bleak and retarded, just look at RAM prices for examples.

>>107152650
I mean i'd bet there are better threads to ask about it
Just go to /v/ and check any of the ai threads or maybe even in this very /g/

>>107152414
Just take the ASUS bro. Shit's already too expensive. If you're conscious about your spendings there is no point in overbuying. You will love the ASUS 9070 XT. It's a great card.

>>107152650
see
>>107145378
Also play those RT games like the other anon was saying.

>>107151775
Yeah, it's probably worth waiting to see what happens this month.

is 60 fps monitor fine, guys? I dont play games so I really dont care about muh 144 fps. I mostly watch pirated movies and those movies are all 24 fps so there is no different between a 60 fps monitor and a 120 fps monitor, right?

>>107153127
buy an oled tv for movies

>>107152412
The ASUS XG27ACS if you can get it near $200.
Samsung Odyssey G50D or Dell Alienware AW2725DM based on current US prices.

>>107153254
Thanks a lot.

>>107153127
I set my 360Hz QD-OLED monitor to run at 60Hz most of the time.

>>107153290
what the fuck what kind of sicko are you? why would anyone do this? I refuse to believe you.

>>107153311
The only good refresh rates are 60Hz, 120Hz and 600Hz. Everything else is bloat. 1200Hz is the final holy grail.

test

>>107153390
failed

>>107153127
dont think any 60hz monitors even support VRR/Gsync/Freesync and those are required now

how many cores will a CPU need for the forseeable future? Is 6 cores enough?

>>107153438
8 with x3d is the futureproof solution

Help me pick:
ASRock AMD X870E Taichi lite
Asus ROG STRIX X870E-H
MSI PRO X870-P

>>107153438
dont buy anything right now. Wait for 2 years at least. There will be some big breakthrough in CPU techs soon, from both intel and amd.

>>107153450
I didnt buy asrock myself because of the x3d mess
I would never buy ASUS because armoury crate is malware

the only time prices went down was the ssds in 2023 then they fixed the market and jacked the prices up again

they literally increase the price of already released hardware now even consoles

what will waiting gain me it's gonna be even more expensive later

>According to Akiba PC Hotline [machine translated], several shops have imposed limits to prevent hoarding, with one limiting customers to just eight items per group. Another one has even more stringent restrictions, only releasing two storage drives or SO-DIMMs and up to four pieces of memory per buyer, although customers buying a completely new PC can negotiate for a higher limit.

>These shops imposed these caps because they haven’t been receiving the expected number of deliveries for these items, and their inventories are running low. Distributors are reportedly suspending deliveries of some products, with no clear outlook for when supply will return to normal. This crunch means that prices for these components are expected to skyrocket, with PC builders and enthusiasts looking for performance parts to be hit the hardest by the shortage and price hikes.


I keep saying build now. Stores aren't even receiving stock and have no idea when new stock is coming.

>>107153450
Why are those the options? I guess the MSI because it's cheap. Not the Asrock because it might kill your CPU, and the Asus doesn't even have a postcode at that price which is kinda insane.

>AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
Would I see a significant performance gain moving to AM5 or am I going to change my CPU, motherboard, RAM and disks (to pcie5) for marginal gains?

>>107153514
Depends what you buy and what you use it for. Like if you get a 9800x3d and use it in games that can use the extra cache, you'll see huge gains. If you get like a 7700 and use it for GPU limited games or non-gaming stuff you might not see much of a difference.

>>107153514
you would get better 1% lows, feel less compilation stutters with a am5 x3d cpu
average fps would look very similar at 1440p/4k in many games, but the overall experience would be smoother
in 1080p situations you would see biggest avg gains

>>107153514
there is zero point moving to any am5 cpu

>>107153127
the mouse looks smoother and scrolling looks smoother too initially
you get used to it in like 3 minutes and it becomes no different an experience than 60fps tho
but it's not cost you much so why not

>>107153539
>fps would look very similar at 1440p/4k

Im not sure how it goes with the modern upscaling where the base res can be 720p 1080
I guess upscalers makes upgrading to am5 x3d cpus more impactful?

>>107153497
It's going to take a while for prices to normalize, every single time there is a shortage, they always make too much supply once the demand dies down.
Will they learn their lesson and do absolutely nothing, which lets prices skyrocket forever? Probably not because if the AI bubble pops so much more than just Dram prices will fall. So they better get their supply up or else.
And by the time supply reaches us, ddr6 and new sockets, new CPU's, and GPU's will come out.

iam excited, /g/bros. In 5 years we will have shit so advanced even when compared to today's top dogs. Just you wait big things are coming, real big.

>>107153615
yeah we'll have tsmc nodes that are 10% denser at 100% higher prices
maybe amd will make ccds that have 10 cores and they slap even larger l3 cache under them using tsmc packaging tech

when do the black friday type sales start happening for computer parts ?

>>107153642
they will find a way to make the consumer buy.
they always find a way.

>>107153508
In the UK the prices are
MSI Pro: 220
ROG STRIX: 300
Taichi Lite: 325

So, the question is basically one of "What is the difference between the boards to make a 50% increase in price worthwhile."

>>107153657
sometime around black friday I imagine

>>107153693
not really. by then its over

>>107151590
Also I forgot to mention that Im in the EU but that was probably obvious from esl. I have also been looking at the XG27ACDNG and MSI MPG 271QRX. Any thought? I dont really have much of my own because as I said I have only used cheap monitors before and am purchasing my first "premium" monitor. Not much of a movie watcher, at least not from this monitor

Any software you should always have on USB drive for any new built PC?

>>107153657
Amazon always have their black friday week which is when basically everyone does since Amazon control all retail now. Amazon's Black Friday Week should start November 21st and run to December 1st. Black Friday is on the 28th on that time other stores may have more deals then but it's usually flash sales that disappear immediately.

Is it really impossible to build a good PC with a 5070 for $1000

>>107153497
There is a butcher in my hometown that is the 2 times back to back winner of the national blood pig sausages.
He has a limit on the amount you can buy from him per person and as you buy other stuff from the butcher shop you can unlock buying more blood sausages.
I know limiting units to prevent hoarding and scalping isn't anything new but everytime i see it i get reminded of this butcher and i smile.

>>107153832
you would have to cut a bunch of corners but its most likely doable with like a 7600-7700-9600 and then some other compromises

>>107153832
AMD Ryzen 5 7600
Gigabyte B650 Eagle
WD Black SN850X 1TB
PNY RTX 5070
Corsair 4000D
Corsair RM750e
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120

As for RAM, lol gl.

>lookup some ram on amazon
>earliest delivery December 1st
>login with prime
>earliest delivery tomorrow
>price still 100% of what it was last month
this industry is hell
modern retail is nothing but hell

Is 6000MHz ram really that bad on arrow lake? yes I need the 265K It's production/gaming I need both

>>107153832
If you had 4k, you could throw in the cheapest CPU you have, but you are basically locking your FPS to whatever your CPU can handle.
A low end CPU would probably be a 12100f. It actually hits pretty higher than you would expect for a 4 core CPU for gaming, you don't even need a cooler, but it's TERRIBLE for productivity (like blender CPU rendering).

>>107153832
I got it down to 1207
I really thought i would get there

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rxwpfd

>>107153999
I was thinking a 12400 because there's no ecores for it to screw around with on windows 10 but don't know if that'll be decent enough if other games ask for 8 cores on low now.

I wanna build a sub-300€ (200 if possible) gaming PC to use as a Steam machine on my second home.
I don't mind buying used nor chink shit from AliExpress.

For now I think that them aliexpress Xenon kits paired with a used RX 6600 might be the best bet.
Thoughts? Any suggestions?
I reside in Spain btw

>>107154079
buy a used steam deck

>>107154079
won't run steamOS, but I heard that bazzite is the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ6ghjRBFGQ

>>107153832
Best I can do is ~$1100:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jmwpfd
If you really cheaped out on the CPU like >>107153999 said it's possible to get under the budget line, but you are really being a penny wise and a pound foolish at that point. It's $100 less than >>107154014 but his build has more of a future upgrade path than this one.

>>107154079
¡Claro que si, campeon!

>>107153976
It's not bad, just unimpressive.

>>107153731
The ASUS ROG XG27AQWMG is the 1440p OLED monitor you should be trying to buy atm (27" 1440p, Tandem WOLED + TrueBlack Glossy finish, $599 MSRP).
>>107147175
It will launch later this month or in December, I've read that pre-orders started in the UK.

The other two monitors you mentioned are fine if you can get it for a nice discount.
But you really want that new glossy panel finish.
This video shows a higher-end model than the XG27AQWMG, but the important specs are the same (1440p 280Hz, 4th gen Tandem WOLED + TrueBlack Glossy panel finish).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc7MHEMcVVI

>>107151654
>It's not going to throttle.
lol, even the 4-5k$ laptops thermal throttle hard.

>>107154155
i love that image
everytime i see it it warms my little 5600x poor user heart

Holy shit, have Nvidia drivers become so bad now?

Looks like a lot of problems with each and every version.

For my new system I guess I will try the 577 as basis.

>>107154195
No, what are you talking about, saar?

>>107153917
You could probably skip the cooler and put that money towards RAM. The stock cooler is mostly fine.

>>107154187
it's great because some people have really forgotten that GPU > all
Too many believe changing CPU is going to help their gaming frames drastically

>>107154232
ideally you want both am5 x3d + 5070 ti type gpu
some games are coded poorly and need the cpu

>>107154155
>XG27AQWMG
Since it was first announced I've wondered, is this high-gloss coating an ASUS-exclusive thing or is it something LG Display cooked up that will be available to all panel OEM buyers?
Also the PG27AQWP-W version with full DP 2.1 UHBR20 support seems artificially limited.
At 1440p it's only 540Hz & 720p@720Hz, when according to this bandwidth calculator:
https://linustechtips.com/topic/729232-guide-to-display-cables-adapters-v2/?section=calc&mode=maxfreq&H=2560&V=1440&bpc=10&compression=dsc16bpp
@ 1440p it should be capable of ~800Hz and 720p @ ~1500Hz

>>107153832
with some used parts sure

>>107154232
I got 50% higher framerate from an in socket CPU upgrade last year so you’re kind of (a little but) full of some shit there bud.

>>107154254
This chart shows really a 7600X & 5070/9070XT would be enough for 90% of players and that's a lot cheaper than an X3D/70TI combo. Well that is if the 9070XT is actually at MSRP.

>>107154254
post the benchmark

>>107154232
Yeah there really aren't many CPU-demanding games, I don't get the people that spend the money on a 9800X3D and then get a comparatively low end GPU. Like drop down to something like a 7600X and get the best GPU you can. Unless you only play esports and strategy games with tons of npcs.

>>107154263
The TrueBlack Glossy panel was co-developed by LG Display and ASUS.
LG Display is shipping those tandem WOLED panels with the TrueBlack finish applied to ASUS’ monitor manufacturer.

>>107154087
Had a Steam deck before and while I loved it the performance wasn't that good. I don't mind playing at upscaled 720p30 in handheld mode but if I'm hooking it up to the TV then that's a diff story.
>>107154107
If a regular pc is out of my budget then I'll probably get that thing desu

Consider vacating this thread

>>107154326
>>107154326
>>107154326

>>107154315
I dont see how you could ever outperform SD with your 300€ budget

>>107154365
It's impossible. He can't even buy a switch 2 with that. People have to be realistic, that is not got getting you any kind of gaming PC and a steam deck is a life raft at that price.

>>107154291
sus

>>107154291
Do people really benefit from having more than 150fps? Also DLSS is king.

>>107154428
dlss means lower base res which means cpu does more work relative to gpu

>>107153254
Odyssey G50D or Alienware AW2725DM? Can get both around 200$.

>>107154432
you will get a niggerions fps anyway so who cares

>>107154291
I call bullshit because im usually over 200fps with an (overclocked) i5

>>107154465
no one actually runs the game with overkill settings or with TAA

>>107154315
>I'll probably get that thing desu
I would watch a couple more videos about the compatibility of this device before buying it.
It seems to be a fun toy that could play games, but it could easily ruin your experience due to periodic crashes / can't run games.

>>107154506
Is it that big of a difference?
I kind of undersold it by saying just "over 200fps." Lowest I've seen is like 170ish during grenade rape, runs overall about the same as bf1 except my gpu isn't basically idling.

>>107154155
>The ASUS ROG XG27AQWMG is the 1440p OLED monitor you should be trying to buy atm (27" 1440p, Tandem WOLED + TrueBlack Glossy finish, $599 MSRP).
I was looking at 1440p too, but that means I cant play on my ps5 pro in 4k. Seems a little bit of waste, no? Thats why I was looking at the 4k monitors, mainly I was eyeing the PG27UCDM. Now I do realize that on my pc I cant take full advantage of it, but if my gpu can manage 120fps at slightly lower settings on more demanding games then I think it's a good monitor to future proof myself with or no? If I bought the 4k monitor then if I decided to maybe upgrade to a 5080 in the future I'd already have the monitor for it and wouldn't need to spend more time and money in selling the 1440p one and trying to find a 4k one for a good deal. Currently the PG27UCDM is on sale, down from 1200 to 999. Or is it just not worth it in my case?

>>107154232
>Too many believe changing CPU is going to help their gaming frames drastically
I gained more of an upgrade going from a 3900X to a 9950X3D , than I did going from a 1080 to a 4070 Super.

>>107154428
>Do people really benefit from having more than 150fps?
yes, 240hz+ displays are common now.