Thread 107152122

I personally prefer KDE Plasma now, but the reality is that the Linux Desktop is dominated by GTK/Libadwaita apps. Using KDE Plasma is like using Windows 11, but the majority of your apps are GNOME/GTK, it just doesn't fit. Except for some cross platform apps, they mostly use qt, like qbittorrent and emulators.

If you want to have a consistent desktop, you have to go with GNOME or at least a GTK desktop like Cinnamon or XFCE. But it makes sense, I mean Ubuntu, Fedora and Flathub go hand in hand with GNOME. If you don't know what I mean: Just install Flatseal or Bazaar on KDE Plasma and open Dolphin next to it.

i fully agree, i prefer kde but the gtk applications here dont blend well with the rest of the desktop (and that goes without mentioning kde own inconsistencies). its also strange that you have a better experience with qt in a gtk de like xfce.

I don't have any frequently used GTK software installed. I use GIMP sometimes but kolourpaint is usually enough for small edits, and krita might be a valid alternative too.

Bottles is also GTK, but they are moving away from it with bottles-next, last i heard.

>>107152122 (OP)
>but the majority of your apps are GNOME/GTK
Literal skill issue. Everything I use is QT. Sounds like the PEBKAC to me.

>>107152154
Okay picrel doesn't look too bad, but it annoys me. Libadwaita apps don't have this header bar, are more rounded and are structured different. I don't mind GNOMEs design language, the problem for me is just the mixing.

>>107152231
>Libadwaita
jesus, why not use gnome at that point? or you only have those 2 gnome aplications sitting around? maybe you can find better alternatives.

>>107152211
>Don't use apps okay? A-and PEBKAC
Lol, KDE got many good apps, but some apps aren't available qt... Ubuntu, Fedora and Flathub encourage the use of GTK/Libadwaita.

>>107152273
I wanted to switch DE's because of this inconsistency, but then I remembered: I hate that I have to rely on some extensions for GNOME. And many of my favorite apps are actually from KDE and stuff like KDE Connect is a native app, as well as the fucking system tray.

>>107152231
>headerbars
can't you force server side decorations anymore?

>>107152352
>left
native qt app
>middle
older gtk app (breeze theme applied)
>right
libadwaita

I don't mind older GTK versions, at least they look decent and you can apply a theme (breeze). But look at fucking libadwaita on the right, it looks completely alien and I can't theme it.

>>107152426
Because you are a retard. It's a flatpak with its own theme.
Have you ever heard of gtk.css?

>>107152463
I just tried it again, it only works with older GTK Flatpaks, I can theme them, if I give them permission to see .themes via flatseal. But I can't theme libadwaita still...

>>107152426
>>107152614
big yikes from me
then again, I pinned gimp at 2.10 so it'd stay on gtk2

>>107152426
everything kde is just poorly designed.
take a look at that calculator.
it was created by someone who has no idea how to design things.
and not even bothering to look up how to do it properly.

>>107152755
as a designer I can tell you that the guy creating kde shit has never heard about hierarchy, does not understand what is important and used more frequently.

it is just a blob of poorly structured buttons of the same color and weight.

fucking disgusting...

and everything in kde world is like that.

who gives a fuck if you have a gui to style it differently.. it will look like and work like shit.


too bad mentally ill kde trannies are lacking in taste and logic to see it.

>>107152755
and the ammount of visual clutter created by pointless borders on those buttons and useless empty bars on the bottom and top..

how can anyone respecting themselves use it daily and hate on gnome is beyond me.


some people do not deserve good things I guess...

>>107152755
>>107152809
>>107152828
Can you guys do a gnome vs kde file manager comparison?

>>107152851
it is just one guy (me)
hating on kde in multiple messages :D

nautilus is ok ish.
https://apps.gnome.org/ru/Nautilus/

not the best not the worst.

the best one I ever used was pathfinder from macos but it is expensive and closed source
https://cocoatech.io/

Everything looks so old school and a bit weird. I might switch to the gimp toolkit. Would ebussy allow me to use a system tray extension, gsconnect and blur my shell?

>>107152122 (OP)
usually i would prefer kde over gnome but they've too have made some concerning public statements lately... so idk

>>107152883
this is how dolphin looks.

it is disgusting... I can point out what exactly is wrong with it but there are a lot of issues in there.

>>107152883
>>107152921
I think GNOME just looks modern and more minimal. I always switch between KDE and GNOME. Blyat, but you sound like a Apple and GNOME dick sucker... I like GNOME, I just feel like removing the system tray is too much
>>107152913
I don't care what they say of think, I just want a working and good looking FOSS desktop.

>>107152851
thats an area where KDE is massively better, i don't care what the calculator i use once a month looks like as long GNOME doesn't give me the superior functionality of dolphin and krunner.

>>107153028
>I don't care what they say of think, I just want a working and good looking FOSS desktop.
both look ass imo but i can give you one of two.
use gnome with no third-party extensions or themes, preferably with an lts kernel. rock solid experience.

>>107153028
system tray can be enabled by an extension
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1653/tweaks-in-system-menu/

I started with windows 95 then xp, 7 then mac os mountain lion up to Catalina and now I use fedora starting from gnome 40.

so I liked apple but I used everything and still have to use windows and mac for work sometimes (I write apps for those OSes)

>>107153054
the only kde apps I use is okular and fontManager
the rest is kinda useless...

https://okular.kde.org/
https://github.com/FontManager/font-manager

on mac I had to pay to get similar functionality and it was not as good.

>>107153145
oh wait fontmanger is also gtk.
lmao.. I thought it was kde..
then only okular I guess.

>>107153075
Oh damn, I forgot the color picker and vitals is cool. Do you think Fedoras ~6 month release cycle is enough for extension devs to keep up?

>>107153145
https://github.com/lassekongo83/adw-gtk3

>>107153185
yes.
the good thing about gjs and gnome in general that it is incredibly simple because it uses web shit like css and js.

in most cases the only thing you have to do is ad a version number in manifest.json of an extension if it does not work.

very very rarely you have to fix something because some call in some gnome library has changed.

most of extensions are less than 1kb of very primitive code. Like one class with a few methods.

you can do anything in gnome in a few hours of work.

>>107153197
thank you fren.
it looks super clean.

>>107152755
I'm yet to find a tolerable GUI calculator on any platform (including windows), so I just use bc in the terminal, and if I can't do it that way, then wolframalpha it is.

>>107152755
>>107152809
>>107152828
kde isn't really as bad with UI/UX as linux in general is (which is one of its major failing points to mass adaptation, really) and at least it still respects your theming decisions rather than GTK4 throwing you on discount iOS libadwaita because having an icon be shaped slightly askew might offend ebussy and other retarded devs
stop shilling GNOME when it's veering down the same path as windows and ruining anything that uses GTK with it, just like windows

>>107152122 (OP)
I just use KDE because I want a traditional desktop and newer features. I tried Gnome and I hate the tablet interface.

>>107153145
You don't use qBittorent?

>>107153234
The most advanced I ever used was pcalc on mac
https://www.pcalc.com/mac/index.html

it was created by one of ex finder develoeprs.
It has a lot of eastereggs inside like a 3d game you can play

>>107153299
I like torrential.. I do not remember why though :D
elementay os has some cool apps with weird designs.

>>107153241
But it ultimately comes down to GNOME and KDE, all the other desktops lack new features and gayland and I don't want to use a TWM

>>107153310
>eastereggs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MteFaeczUUs

tablet ui looks disgusting on da computer.

>>107153480
I use laptop with touchscreen.
so it is perfect...

also ones phosh is mature enough I will be able to go 100% linux.
with a unified interface and no android shit.

>>107153075
ooops - wrong link
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/615/appindicator-support/

>>107152426
you can use gtk3-nocsd to make proton vpn (and other gtk3 apps) use the breeze decorations btw

>>107152122 (OP)
I'm afraid of the name "gnome". If I let my children use it, won't it slow down their growth?
Don't get me wrong, I respect dwarves, gnomes, they are an important part of nature, but I don't want some of my children to become dwarves. Although this would have its advantages, due to the smallness of our apartment.

>>107152122 (OP)
testing out gnome, its honestly not that bad but the kdeconnect port (GSConnect) wont detect my devices) and my favorite parts of kde were kdeconnect and the clipboad

i wanted to run fedora kinoite on it but SDDM has some bug where it wont unlock from a yubikey where's in GDM it seems to work.

I use kde because gnome is ugly and the logo is a foot, but I only need a browser emacs and digikam.

>>107152122 (OP)
Both are good, I wish KDE had GNOME's polish and I wish GNOME had KDE's features

>>107152122 (OP)
Both are shit and should not be supported. The best is to install some lightweight WM and GTK apps. There are like 2 apps on KDE side that are worth anything, Krita and maybe Kdenlive. That's all folks.