Thread 17809231

>Afraid of the Bible?
>YOU SHOULD BE
>let my cult tell you what it AKSHUALLY says and means
Why does anyone take this Alexandrian priest cult seriously?

They want Catholics to be afraid of the Bible because if they read it and believe it, they'll stop being Catholic since the Bible contradicts their traditions of man on almost every page.

>>17809236
Unironically based. You chuds will never understand that the entire purpose of the Hebrew Bible was to control the Jews through a law code framed in a narrative, and that Catholic doctrine and traditions, separate from the Bible but contingent on it, is to control the goyim–I mean the gentiles. It's all about social engineering and inclining people towards right action.

>>17809250
>burning Bibles and burning people for teaching their kids the Lord's prayer and burning people for translating the Bible is .. le wholesome based chungus so we can have our heckin Mary worship traditions bruh no cap fr fr

>>17809231 (OP)
>POV: Your altarbussy is about to be violated....

>>17809256
>We should give $10 billion to Israel because Pastor Bob in Sunday school said whoever blesses Israel is blessed and whoever curses Israel is cursed.
You know what? You're right, I'm so glad Martin Luther had his meltdown. Where would the West be without the thirty three thousand Protestant denominations and their false narratives about the Catholic Church?

>>17809279
Why do latinxes that can't even find Jerusalem on a map get so worked up about Israel anyway

Because muh pretty idols

>>17809279
I oppose that idolatry just as I oppose the idolatry of the Catholic cult.

>but ... le many denominations
>tips fedora
I'd rather have many denominations where the truth could still be found, than many gods you pray to like your "Queen of Heaven" and the "Patron Saints" where the truth has been suppressed violently historically and still suppressed today.

There's no salvation in the Roman Catholic Church. Why don't you just read the Bible? Why are you such a scared little bitch? It's almost like you know almost every page of the New Testament rebukes everything your cult teaches.

See, this is why Catholics basically view their church as their god. They even refer to it as the "One Holy..." but the only One Holy is God Almighty. You see, Biblical doctrine and Biblical salvation gives all the glory to God; man's traditions like Roman Catholicism want to steal glory from God for themselves.

>>17809231 (OP)
if you're afraid of the bible that actually means you're under grace and god is drawing you into him. fear of the lord is the beginning of all wisdom or something. some people misinterpret the fear of god as a hatred of christians and lash out at them, which is the incorrect response, you need to do the exact opposite and run straight towards the church if you realize this is happening.
>>17809236
you cannot understand the bible without the holy spirit. if you read it rationally it's an incoherent mess. if you read it spiritually it starts to make sense.

>>17809231 (OP)
Biblical Literalism is for fools and Americans.

>>17809332
>They even refer to it as the "One Holy..." but the only One Holy is God Almighty. You see, Biblical doctrine and Biblical salvation gives all the glory to God; man's traditions like Roman Catholicism want to steal glory from God for themselves.
There was even a time in history when people would line up to kiss the pope's big toe.

Matthew 4:10
>[10] Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Acts 10:26
>[26] But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.

Revelation 22:8-9
>[8] And I John saw these things, and heard [them]. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
>[9] Then saith he unto me, See [thou do it] not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

Luke 18:19
>[19] And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none [is] good, save one, [that is], God.

>>17809336
>if you read it rationally it's an incoherent mess. if you read it spiritually it starts to make sense.
This is literal scammer logic.

>>17809336
>you cannot understand the bible without the holy spirit.
I agree.

Do you know how you receive the Holy Spirit?
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1751478235228196.webm

>if you read it rationally it's an incoherent mess.
Completely disagree. God is not the author of confusion. You're probably not even using God's Word though, but some Catholic/Jesuit-published modern perversion from corrupted manuscripts.

>fear of the lord is the beginning of all wisdom or something
>"or something"
>you need to do the exact opposite and run straight towards the church
I see why you think you need "the church" because you're obviously not saved and not indwelt/sealed with the Spirit of God.

The Bible says we have no need that any should teach us if we're saved.
>I. John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
>St. John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
>Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

>>17809350
>God isn't powerful enough to write a book that man could understand
>even though the book of John literally says it's written that readers can believe the gospel and get saved
>trust the religion experts, chud
NPC religion for pagans and idolaters who want to worship a host of patron gods under their queen of heaven because the "experts" told them to do it.

>>17809368
Mary is co-redeemer. Without her free will assent to God there would be no redemption.

>>17809390
Sounds like one hell of a goddess. Can you show me where this Asherah is in scripture?

>>17809395
The Gospel According to Luke

>>17809397
Chapter and verse?

>>17809231 (OP)
I'm not afraid of a book.

I'm afraid of how people interpret the book, and what they do as a result.

>>17809390
Not what the Bible says, not what Jesus said.
>John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
>I. Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Why don't you do what Mary said to do in Scripture and obey Jesus?
>John 2:5 His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.

Or how about who you claim is your "first pope" (he's not), what Peter said?
>II. Peter 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

>>17809397
That book shows Mary needed a savior, not was a savior.
>Luke 1:46-47 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.

>>17809401
You sound like a tranny

>>17809401
>I'm afraid of how people interpret the book, and what they do as a result.
You mean like the Catholic cult's inquisitions and burnings for owning a Bible or teaching from it?

>>17809411
Or those protestants who tortured and murdered people for not accepting their King as head of the church just because he wanted to have more sex?

>>17809413
>tortured and murdered people
Like William Tyndale?

1 Corinthians 11:2
>Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you.

2 Thessalonians 3:6
>Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us.

2 Thessalonians 2:15
>So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter.

Divine tradition precedes scripture.

>>17809417
Like all of these people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Catholic_martyrs_of_the_English_Reformation

>>17809422
That tradition is the Christian religion, the totality of which is revealed in scripture.

>>17809430
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regnans_in_Excelsis

>>17809431
You can't use scripture to justify sola scriptura because scripture LITERALLY DIDN"T EXIST until the 3rd century.

>>17809433
Oh no, the Pope excommunicated a heretic.

>>17809436
>released her subjects from allegiance to her, even those who had "sworn oaths to her," and excommunicated any who obeyed her orders: "We charge and command all and singular the nobles, subjects, peoples and others afore said that they do not dare obey her orders, mandates and laws. Those who shall act to the contrary we include in the like sentence of excommunication."[1][2]
So he did a good job of increasing persecution for papists in England and getting a bunch of them killed, for a monarch is certainly justified in the execution of traitors.
>>17809434
Every book of the bible had been written by the end of the 1st century.

>>17809413
>but some protestants did it too!
Not nearly to the extent and most protestant religions don't claim only they have the way to salvation, that's what cults like JWs teach.

The Bible teaches that Jesus is the only way to be saved, not through any specific church started by man.

>>17809422
Nothing "divine" about your traditions, many of which were adopted from Hinduism.

>>17809434
>people who wrote the books of the New Testament didn't write them until centuries after they died
>because um... well... the experts said so
>trust the experts chud!

>>17809446
> a monarch is certainly justified in the execution of traitors

Monarchs are not justified in the persecution of the one true catholic and apostolic church.

>>17809450
With which the church of Rome has no party.

>>17809446
>Every book of the bible had been written by the end of the 1st century.
>written

But not collated or popularly decided on until later. Before then the Shepherd of Hermas and others were circulating alongside what we know today. Not to mention that there were heresies even then that needed to be routed out thanks to an incomplete scripture.

And then you protestants ripped out 7 books you didn't like. Hell, Luther almost ripped out James because it said faith without works is dead.

>>17809447
>many of which were adopted from Hinduism.
Did you learn that from a Chick tract? LMFAO

>>17809449
Protestantism is anti-intellectualism. It's the belief that any idiot can read the bible and magically understand it's historical and literary context divorced from all research and background information. They cry HOLY SPIRIT to justify their literal modern readings or personal revelations that twist scripture to mean whatever they want.

>>17809447
1. Only the Pope is infallible and only when speaking ex-cathedra. Not a class.

2. There are tons of catholic biblcial scholars and apologists outside the hierarchy of the church like Scott Hahn.

3. It's not a "private interpretation", it's the theology developed by multiple people over two thousand years.

4. Not true.

5. We also recognize the Orthodox.

6. Only Catholics and Orthodox can trace their origin back that far. PERIOD. That's a historical fact.

7. Oh no, hierarchy! grow up.

8. Oh no, organization! Can't have that, gotta be distributed across a thousand denominations.

9. Salvation is through faith alone, faith without works is dead.

10. Their religious practices have origins in the last supper and the baptism of Christ by John.

11. Oh no, Theology!

12."preoccupied". Kiss my ass.

>>17809454
>But not collated
Why does this matter?
>popularly decided on
Men do not "decide on" scripture, scripture is those books which God has breathed out and nothing more. But the people of God have recognized scripture since before the coming of the Lord.
>Before then the Shepherd of Hermas and others were circulating alongside what we know today
This is also irrelevant, as if a book being popular and recommended made it the equal of scripture.
>Not to mention that there were heresies even then that needed to be routed out thanks to an incomplete scripture.
The heresies which rose, which were rising before the closure of the canon, did not rise due to incomplete canon. They were not honestly mistaken based on genuine ignorance of divine revelation, they were in active rebellion against the faith God had revealed in Christ.
>And then you protestants ripped out 7 books you didn't like
This is anti-historical fanfiction, as has been said so many times, the status of those books was disputed for millennia (most famously between Augustine and Jerome). In the 16th century a consensus formed amongst the true believers on account of their greater learning and wisdom at that time, and Rome responded by producing a dogmatic list of canon (for the first time ever, I add) which included the apocryphal books. You've turned it on its head, the only reason you are committed to those books is in reaction to the Reformation.
>>17809459
It's well known stuff like monasticism was a corruption from eastern religion spread through the silk road.

>>17809459
Celibacy, monks, monasteries, idolatry, etc.: yes. None of that comes from the Bible and the Bible actually rebukes it, pic related.

You also act like this pic: >>17809256

>>17809463
>NOU
Weaksauce, you literally relegate all your thinking to blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into a ditch.

>>17809463
>VII. All things in Scripture are not alike plain in themselves, nor alike clear unto all;a yet those things which are necessary to be known, believed, and observed, for salvation, are so clearly propounded and opened in some place of Scripture or other, that not only the learned, but the unlearned, in a due use of the ordinary means, may attain unto a sufficient understanding of them.b

>>17809476
The point was the Shepherd of Hermas was believed to BE scripture. The final books on what were and were not god breathed was decided by Council.

>They were not honestly mistaken based on genuine ignorance of divine revelation
What an absurd way to look at human freewill.

>monasticism
Monasticism arose from the hermit tradition already existing in Judaism at the time. Benedict's rule was entirely novel and makes no reference to eastern anything. And how is it a "CORRUPTION"? You throw that word around but monasticism is a lay practice taken up out fo choice. NO ONE claims that it is divinely commanded or inspired.

>>17809471
>it's not a private interpretation, but only our cult leaders are allowed to interpret it
>you're only allowed to "interpret it" if you agree or else we'll burn you at the stake
Yeah sure, "not a private interpretation". You will never be a real woman. Because that's the same logic you're working on, tranny logic.

>There are tons of catholic biblcial scholars and apologists outside the hierarchy of the church like Scott Hahn.
Just a bunch of Jesuit-educated useful idiots parroting lies and revistionist history.

>Not true.
Literally what their catechism teaches.

>Oh no, hierarchy! grow up.
Bible says we're all brothers in Christ, and Peter wrote that believers are part of the royal priesthood. Jesus said to call no man father.

You also act like this pic: >>17809256 I'm not gonna bother responding to all your idiot points and lies and childish bullshit.

>>17809471
>Salvation is through faith alone
Not what your cult teaches at all or what their catechism teaches. Just a bunch of posers trying to claim the name of Christ when they used to torture Christians for not bowing to their faggot popes.

>faith without works is dead.
Plus you don't even understand what "faith without works" means probably since you're not even saved, you're not a believer, you believe and trust in your works, not in God. It's either by grace or works, not both to be saved. You want to boast of your many wonderful works.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1750972285721884.webm

>>17809478
>Celibacy
1st Corinthians 7. Matthew 19:12

> monks
No one claims it's commanded but the bible doesn't rebuke it.

>idolatry
No such thing happening in catholic churches. You don't know what an idol is.

>relegate all your thinking to blind guides
I read and agree with centuries of theology. As opposed to prots who only blindly grope at a two thousand year old text without any semblance of understanding.

>>17809496
>since you're not even saved, you're not a believer, you believe and trust in your works, not in God.

Cry more. I love prot tears.

>>17809498
>No such thing happening in catholic churches. You don't know what an idol is.
You're in denial.

Old Testament gives clear examples as well as the New Testament of idolatry, and your cult does it on a daily basis. >>17809353

>>17809502
Idolatry is worship of images as if they were gods/contained gods. These are just images.A cross is an idol under your absurd definition.

>>17809501
>telling me I'm not saved and on my way to hell since I'm in a cult that preaches a false gospel is you crying or something
Weird cognitive dissonance, buddy.

>>17809507
>mental gymnastics to defend what the Bible plainly teaches is idolatry
You're such a fool. You can't even think for yourself, you're just parroting what your priest told you to believe and he's just parroting what his bishop told him to believe since it's an NPC religion for unthinking blind fools.

>>17809485
>The point was the Shepherd of Hermas was believed to BE scripture.
Universally? No. Addition of books to the New Testament was relegated to the home regions of those books and only for a short time. The Shepherd was never accepted outside of the northwestern Mediterranean.
>The final books on what were and were not god breathed was decided by Council.
Which one? Trent? Historically, this is simple mythology, it did not happen aside from the glaring theological issue. If a book is inspired by God, it is so at its writing by definition, for by "inspired" we mean God used the author to deliver His very words to His people. Therefore, those books which are inspired were inspired from the very moment of its writing, and constitutes canon scripture by sole virtue of its inspiration. And any man or group of men which drafts a list of canon which is distinct from the list of books which were inspired by God is merely in error. Nor does the authority of God's word in any way depend on the authority of men (which is sacrilegious unbelief), but it is to be received and believed because it is the word of God.
>What an absurd way to look at human freewill.
Free will? No, slavery to sin.
>Monasticism arose from the hermit tradition already existing in Judaism at the time
Monasticism arose from eastern monasticism which is why it began in the east and shared the same values. There are literally monastic tales like Barlaam and Josaphat which were lifted directly from Buddhism.
>And how is it a "CORRUPTION"?
Because it is a diversion of Christianity away from its divine source. Monkery is contrary to the command of Christ and compromises His gospel and kingdom.

>>17809512
>You can't even think for yourself, you're just parroting what your priest told you

And you are parroting Jack Chick level conspiracy theories. Cry more that someone dares to disagree with the mighty anon. IMagine what life would be like if you didn't assume you were the only person with a brain and argued in good faith.

>>17809517
We don't expect the statue to answer prayers. It's there to remind us of the heavenly and direct our thoughts to god.

>>17809528
JUST LIKE A CROSS! You dumb ass prots can't define idol in a way that doesn't ban crosses.

>>17809528
Where does Exodus mention an expectation the calf would answer prayers? If they didn't expect it to answer prayers, would it be ok?

>>17809489
>your idiot points and lies and childish bullshit.
Keep your cool, brother.

>>17809520
>Which one?
Rome, 382

> Nor does the authority of God's word in any way depend on the authority of men (which is sacrilegious unbelief), but it is to be received and believed because it is the word of God.
It take intellect and sagacity to figure out which ones are God breathed and which weren't. Because God left no Bible.

>Free will? No
Heretic. Ignored.

> diversion of Christianity away from its divine source
HOW? It is just living together, sharing things in common like the apostles, and reciting the psalms everyday.

>>17809531
THEY LITERALLY PRAYED TO THE STATUE.

No catholic is praying TO THE STATUE.

>>17809536
Also Hippo 393 and Carthage 397
Regional councils, not ecumenical, that's why there are multiple.

>>17809512
>you're just parroting what your priest told you

And you think no one else can ever be smarter or well informed or well educated than you. That's the sin of pride and antithetical to the brotherhood of Christ.

>>17809512
>he's just parroting what his bishop told him
Where did you get your theology doctorate?

>>17809524
>>17809528
>>17809530
Fools.

>>17809532
These people are children of the devil. Was Jesus nice to them?

>>17809551
Where did I say that? You fools can only lie.

>>17809536
>Rome, 382
So we have a local council (which did not have jurisdiction over the whole Church), which is questionable if it even produced a list of canon, and which was not cited as some defining authority on the canon in subsequent centuries. And even if it had defined a canon, it would not be the first time such a thing was done.
In other words, your claim did not happen historically. This is an exercise in myth making
>It take intellect and sagacity to figure out which ones are God breathed and which weren't
Let's say 'yes'. How would this impugn anything I said?
>Because God left no Bible.
Yes sir, he *did* leave a bible by inspiring it.
>Heretic. Ignored
It's easy to preserve false belief by ignoring the truth
>HOW?
It has no basis in scripture, and it contradicts scripture by retreating from the world (which we are instructed to conquer and baptize) and repudiating holy marriage (which is the highest Christian life and God's will for mankind).
>>17809539
What are these guys doing?

>>17809559
repudiating holy marriage

I gave you specific scriptures where Jesus and Paul both instruct people to be celibate if they so choose.

>What are these guys doing?
Praying in front of an image. You ever prayed in front a bible or a cross? Or an altar?

>>17809557
>Father forgive them for they know not what they do
Yes He was. You are commanded by scripture not to be nice according to the world's reckoning, but to adorn the gospel and answer with gentleness and reverence. Is that what you're doing right now?

>>17809555
>TRUST THE EXPERTS CHUD
NPC religion for the blind being led by blind guides.

You don't need a doctorate to know the New Testament refutes Catholicism on almost every page. You just have to stop drinking the kool aid from the catholic cult punch bowl. You don't even have to be saved to see how much Catholic doctrine deviates from the Bible, you just have to be honest with yourself and actually seek the truth (not seek to defend your cult).

Catholics have also ignored 95% of the arguments made and deflected with some atheist fedora-tier reply like this meme mocks them for: >>17809256

>>17809559
>It has no basis in scripture
Neither does trolling online but you don't seem to shut up. But in all seriousness, the apostles shared things in common. The apostles recited holy scripture. What is unbiblical about doing these things?

>>17809563
>I gave you specific scriptures where Jesus and Paul both instruct people to be celibate if they so choose.
Where? I didn't see it.
>Praying in front of an image. You ever prayed in front a bible or a cross? Or an altar?
Are you telling me the statue just happens to be there, and they aren't directing their devotion toward it as a focus?

>>17809566
And if I draw you as the basedjack, is that going to make my argument true? Midwit.

>>17809571
1st Corinthians 7. Matthew 19:12

>>17809566
>NPC religion for the blind being led by blind guides.

How dare we consult with other human beings for our understanding. We must all be rugged individualists and self-teach ourselves koine greek and latin. Anything else makes us an NPC.
wstjkr

>>17809564
2 Chron 19:2
Psalm 139:21-22
2 John 1:9-11

Just following the example Jesus gave (1 Peter 2:21), like in Matthew 23.

Sick of your baby boomer, positive-only, seeker-friendly effeminate "Christianity" you're trying to push on me which let America become a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah (and incidentally, it was a Catholic-dominated supreme court that forced faggotry on the nation). People like you would be offended by Christ if you actually knew what he said or lived during the time, you people would be crying "Jesus isn't Christ-like" because you get your education from movies and TV of how Christians should behave rather than from God's Word.

>>17809557
>These people are children of the devil.
We need to find a cure for Aspergers, soon.

>>17809589
So much for loving your enemy. Hypocritical prots. Definitely an American snake handler.

>>17809589
>1 Peter 2:21
You think you are suffering?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Cry more, little snake handler.

>>17809590
>>17809596
Matthew 11:18-19
>For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.
>The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

You hate me because I tell you the truth. You even lie and slander me too, proving you hate me while you pretend to preach love (Proverbs 26:28). The leaven of the Pharisees is hypocrisy.

Matthew 10:25
>It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?

>>17809279
>wrote down talking points to be debated and put it on the community buliten board
>meltdown

>>17809575
>ignores the rest of 1st Corinthians and Matthew on marriage

>>17809600
That's not what I said, lying slanderer and railing Cathokike. And Catholics are kikes since they hate the Jesus of the Bible, but love the false Jesus of Catholicism.

Learn to read
>leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

>>17809606
>ignores the rest of 1st Corinthians and Matthew on marriage

>Ignores the words of Jesus Christ on celibacy.

See, I can do it too.

>>17809607
Yeah, remember when Jesus called himself and his fellow jewish apostles a racial slur?

You have lost the plot, friendo.

>>17809572
When have Catholics ITT made any arguments? The best they can do is reference a verse but they don't even expound on it or explain how it proves what they assert it proves. Because they're so brainwashed with their cult's wrong interpretation, and they're told they have to "trust the experts" and their private interpretation of Scripture, so they don't even think about the verse for themselves.

They usually just post some anti-intellectual, thought-terminating quip about "le protties".

>>17809581
Typical Catholic SJW behavior. Cathokikes are the biggest religious hypocrites, teach works part of salvation and full of hatred while they pretend to preach love-only.

p.s. The Bible says to lean not unto your own understanding but to rely on God.
>Proverbs 3:5-6
>5Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
>6In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

>>17809609
Just childish faggot fedora-tier posts. >>17809256

This is why I'm convinced so many Catholics are reprobates.

>>17809607
>Cathokike. And Catholics are kikes

Scratch a protestant, find a racist.

>>17809611
Kike isn't a racial slur, you retarded golem. It's an insult for people who hate Christ, like you. You love your false Jesus that lets you glory in your works and your flesh.

>>17809617
I'm not a protestant and I'm racist. Just about everyone in the world is racist though so that's not saying much.

>>17809589
>your baby boomer, positive-only, seeker-friendly effeminate "Christianity"
Ok, you're an idiot. Shut your mouth and act like a man, brother. There is an ocean of difference between obeying the biblical command to adorn the gospel and what you described. I expressly told you it was not to be "nice" like the world reckons, but to act like a Christian for Christ's sake. The unbelievers' feelings are worthless and immaterial, it isn't about not hurting their feelings, it's about the fact that by unchristlike harshness you are throwing mud onto the very light you preach, obfuscating the gospel to those who would have ears to hear and giving an excuse to those who would reject it. And if you do preach the truth without compromise and in Christian love, and they reject it, then that is to their greater judgement for they had no mud to cover their eyes with.

>>17809614
>They usually just post some anti-intellectual,
My guy, you are the one saying looking to experts or outside sources makes you an NPC. YOU are the anti-intellectual here.

>>17809617
See >>17809618

Scratch a Catholic, find a Talmudic Pharisee who hates the Lord and hates God's children.

>>17809623
Don't call me a brother, Cathokike. I'm not your brother.

>>17809624
I literally say the exact opposite, you dumb Cathokike.

>>17809611
>Yeah, remember when Jesus called himself and his fellow jewish apostles a racial slur?

Yeah he calls the Canaanite woman a dog, very Roman considering the word Canaan sounds like the Latin word for Canine. Jesus was a blonde haired Roman chad dogging on shemcels lmfao

>>17809627
We're done here. Bye bye.

Preach the truth and you have all the little false prophets and their worldly faggot friends biting at your ankles. They're more offended by you insulting devils and false prophets sending people to hell with the false religion they promote than these devils being and false prophets insulted as Jesus insulted them.

>>17809630
Hilarious how Cat-licks are such massive SJWs when they'd literally go around torturing people to death for not bowing to the papacy, now they're bigger SJWs than the average blue-haired atheist.

>b-but you said my trigger word!
>how dare you insult people who hate the Lord with an insult that was coined to insult people who hate the Lord
If you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the only one that yelps is the one you hit. Stop hating Christ of the Bible and you won't get offended by that term. Simple as.

Still waiting for the Catholic losers to respond to the dozens of points I made with an actual argument, they can't do it; because Catholicism departed from the faith, they don't contend for the faith.

>>17809630
Extremely reddit-tier post too. Be less of an effeminate faggot, but that's what a Mary-simping cult like Catholicism does, make effeminate men.

>>17809575
Now there is no duty to be married, as if a man has sinned in failing to acquire a wife, but this is the normative and intended lifestyle for everyone, as the Lord said "it is not good for the man to be alone", and "a man shall depart from father and mother and cleave unto his wife, and they shall be two no longer but one flesh".
>1 Corinthians 7
This was explicitly based on the extraordinary circumstances of the church of Corinth (verse 26) and is not normative for the Church. The passage is a refutation of the Corinthians' assertion that it is good that men should not marry, and an encouragement for those who are not to marry that they should take the opportunity to dedicate themselves all the more to the Lord.
>Matthew 19
The sentiment of the Lord in this verse is much the same as Paul's above, but note how He does not mention any who refuse marriage for sake of their own personal righteousness (as if there was something impure about marriage as the monks have it) but for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Note that there is no change in the teaching of marriage in this passage, for if you go and check the law, Moses did not permit them to put away their wives for any reason beside sexual immorality either. The "hardness of your heart" then is the hardness of the heart which acts sexually immorally.

>>17809627
I'm not sure if this is a false flag. It's a disgrace in any event

>>17809712
How can you tell the difference between "personal righteousness" and the kingdom of heaven?

>>17809720
For one thing the kingdom of heaven is more than you.

>>17809715
/pol/ is leaking again

>>17809727
It's everywhere... School, work, facebook,instagram, politics, friendgroups, girls,video games, /his/... /pol/ is everywhere...

orthodox
>you should read the old and new testament every day, as well as the church fathers who can give greater context on things you aren't sure about it
catholic
>uhh sorry, you can only read the Bible under the supervision of a priest, otherwise you might interpret it wrong and accidentally condemn yourself with heresy!

I'm not sure if this is hyperbole or not.

>>17809756
I think the best difference between Catholicism and Orthodoxy is this. The Apostolic Decree was issued by James, Peter, Paul, and the rest of the bishops as a set of starter rules from the Old Testament for converts to follow as they prepared to enter the Church. The Orthodox still follow it, the Catholics do not.

>>17809724
I still don't see how monasticism isn't in service of the kingdom of heaven

>>17809775
That wouldn't be being a super Christian (which isn't a thing in the bible) who's really really righteous and live a more righteous live than all those plebs outside the monastery (which isn't true either), it would be devoting your attention to serving the body of Christ.

>>17809780
Except they don't believe they are super Christians or holier, that's just something you made up

>>17809279
>Pastor Bob
Actually that was Luke Skywalker.

>>17809780
>it would be devoting your attention to serving the body of Christ.

Like running universities, soup kitchens, homeless shelters, etc?

>>17809231 (OP)
I look at this person and I see a dying breed. His ideology is killing his own race. His son may have trooned out. His daughter may have gotten a 4 year degree and now views herself above all men. Maybe this all didn't happen to him, but it happened to men just like him.

BE AFRIAD
BE AFRAID
FEAR
YOU MUST BE AFRAID AND THE ONLY WAY TO NOT BE AFRAID IS TO DO EXACTLY AS I TELL YOU

Romans turned to Christianity because the church offered the hope of something more than the miserable existence they were in, and because it offered civil services as the Roman state or institutions did so less and less. It didn't succeed because of someone screeching you'll burn in hellfire for worshipping a carven idol.

Sounds more like fucking Islam than Christianity to me. Except even Islam gave some benefits and carrot, they just offer the stick and wonder why others aren't self loathing masochists like them

>>17809231 (OP)
>le book
it is literally meant for atheists and about atheists.
>anons capitulating everywhere in the thread about it
the literal doubt and fear is so loud and clear. There is no need to explain this because there is nothing to explain. The Catholic church is simply a witness. The level and degree of incomplete history records will always leave gaps, and, as witness and what IS recorded, still leaves God as the ultimate judge - not petty anons that pout and have 'mah feels' about it, and certainly not their scrupulosity. Only good things come from God, hence leaving your bias as your own judgments hefted back onto yourselves. Always seek judgement, just re-read this thread and your posts and you'll find enough.

>>17809756
funny how the catholics ended up being right

>>17810278
No its always been a fear based death cult

The spread is not organic

Christian Rome literally killed and confiscated your property if you didn't convert from paganism (Jews are allowed to keep their religion though)

Christian Europe will torture you for even more nonsensical shit

>>17811078
>lol even
you jest - you mean acts of men. go out and learn how to be one loser.

>>17809756
>catholic
*muslim*
>bilbe
*Koran*
>fixed

>>17811049
They were completely wrong though

>>17809231 (OP)
>catholic saying you should fear the Bible
how ironic

>>17811761
>Christians are supposed to act like christ
>You can't hold their actions accountable!
Uh huh

>>17811761
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit

You're all corrupt just like your jewgod

>>17809557
This guy is a troll and a fraud. Anyone who actually abides scripture knows calling others fools is against the word as it is written.

>>17811078
>Christian Rome literally killed and confiscated your property

So did protestant England and they both did it like 300 years ago. What do you want? Reparations?

>>17809231 (OP)
>100+ posts
>nobody actually links the video for the context
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lf-6pJoHp8
The title of the video is "Where Do I Start with the Bible?" and the reason the thumbnail says "Afraid of the Bible? You should be" is that you SHOULD feel intimidated by the power of God and His word, that that feeling is normal, and how that should nonetheless not prevent you from opening the Bible and reading it.

>>17812476
>religion of peace
>actually psychopaths with religious narcissism

you're like muslims except you suck jewish dick