I've been trying to get Romanpilled lately and reading about the Gods. I found Cybele as the Mother of all Gods to be very inspiring. However. I later learned that her cult was entirely tranny priests.
Delving deeper I found tranny priests at the Temple of Artemis, Enarees in Scythia, and even entire temple complexes full of trannies in mesopotamia. There is nothing about trannies that screams spiritual to me. Why was this a thing?

>>17817414 (OP)
You're reading homosexual fanfiction about history and you're too retarded not to realize

lemme guess, you believe hitler and michael jackson were gay too?

>>17817414 (OP)
Eunuchs aren’t the same as modern transgenders + these “cults” were often just legal prostitution rings

Because this website has done genuine and serious damage to your brain and you should consider taking a break.

>>17817430
Anything that addresses the past with modern sexual nonsense is pure unadulterated hogwash and the people pushing it have no qualifications

>>17817435
There were trannies in history though ever

>>17817453
No. There were faggots

>>17817430
You don’t understand I’ve been getting into perennialism and every time I get to the bottom of a religion, where it comes from, I reach some tranny shaman-priest that crossdresses, identifies as some other gender and cuts off his balls.
It’s making me more pilled than ever that religion itself is ultimately bad and downstream from transgenderism

>>17817838
Religions are just the poor man's philosophy, it works for most people and they turn out pretty decent.

>>17817853
Then why do I keep seeing trannies
I need answers

>>17817414 (OP)
>Romanpilled
npc behavior

>>17818916
>Roman disapproval of the foreign cult may be more the invention of modern scholars than a social reality in Rome, as archaeologists have found votive statues of Attis on the Palatine hill, meaning Roman citizens participated on some level in the reverence of Magna Mater and her consort
>Some argue that the archigallus was never a eunuch, as all citizens of Rome were forbidden from eviratio (castration).[12] (This prohibition suggests that the original galli were either Asian or slaves.) Claudius, however, lifted the ban on castration; Domitian subsequently reaffirmed it.[13] Whether or not Roman citizens could participate in the cult of Magna Mater, or whether its members were exclusively foreign-born, is therefore the subject of scholarly debate.

So there are other reasons why a group would be called faggots historically other than modern people just making it up. It was an insult against people the Romans hated

Calling them gay weak eunuchs shows quite a bit of hatred against the cult. I don't think it's a coincidence that Cybele was an inspiration for Jesus Christ

>>17817414 (OP)
>There is nothing about trannies that screams spiritual to me. Why was this a thing?
Maybe, just maybe, you're wrong

>>17818982
Oh also Cybele shares similarities with Mary. These Roman cults were powerful among the foreign population of Rome which was beginning to outnumber natives. And it is from these weak slave's gods that a lot of features of Christianity borrowed from

>>17818982
>Cybele was an inspiration for Jesus Christ
In what way? I remember the story of Attis being very Christ-like. The whole being in a tomb for 3 days and then resurrecting thing. Early Christian scholars even thought Jesus was an eunuch.
>>17818989
>Similarities with Mary
From what I gathered, Artemis of Ephesus was another one of those Mother Godesses, one with stretched out arms and all. Later at Ephesus they would have a very strong Mary cult.

>>17819026
So the phyrgian cap is a symbol of overthrowing tyrants, cybele and mithras wore them. We see the phrygian cap in western liberalism.

Mithras Cybele and Isis were the main cults that Christianity drew from and they were all considered either lower class or slave cults.

Just from looking at this from a bird's eye view to me it looks like Christianity was a trojan horse created by jews drawing upon the popular slave religions of rome in order to bring rome to its knees.

>>17819059
You are schizophrenic

>>17819196
Am I? The binding glue of rome was the belief that the roman emperor was divine. What's the one thing that Christianity introduced to rome that wasn't already present? The belief in one God, one Power above ALL and that emperors were no Gods

hmm

>>17819196
oh also you guys talk about masons all the time and they love the phyrigian cap and mithras

What if the origin of leftism was the creation of christianity to destroy rome

>>17819059
True. If you were Yahweh and your main plan just resulted in a humiliating defeat, the next step would be to weaken the enemy from within through something appealing, such as a demigod miracle-worker who appealed to the underclass and promised them future vindication in exchange for denying the old gods and the Emperor's divinity. Remember, every Christian who worships Jesus also worships Yahweh, and Yahweh hated Rome with a fiery passion.

>>17817414 (OP)
>here is nothing about trannies that screams spiritual to me.
Plenty of cultures historically saw a connection between queer/trans/gender-non-conforming people and spirituality. Maybe because they're in a sort of liminal category?
>>17817459
Elagabalus is reported as having said "call me not lord, for I am a lady" and offered extravagant sums of money to any surgeon who could give him a vagina. I will grant that that specific account may be slander, but I don't believe it could have be written by someone who had never met, or heard the reports of someone who had met, a gender-dysphoric person, it's too spot-on a depiction of the condition.

>>17817435
Humans haven't changed that much. You're also pushing your own agenda (with zero qualifications)

>>17817414 (OP)
Yes, even from the earliest written records, we have trannies. Trannies in temples, trannies in power. Enhuanna, world's first author, mentioned the Gala, Pilipili and Kurgara. Later Gods like Ishtar, Astarte, Artemis Ephesus, Kubeleya, Cybele, Cybele-Rhea, Magna Mater, Anahita, Artimpasa.
Dive even deeper and you will find similar cults in Gaul, India, Pegu, Korea, Congo, Nigera, South-Africa.
Later in history all kinds of Christian saints would show up like Marinos, Hilarios, Euphrosyne who all identified as men and stayed that way their entire lives, further denoting that their kind tends to get into spiritual positions.
>>17817417
>>17817424
>>17817435
>>17817459
If they pursued being a woman in attire, appearance, smell, pronouns, marriage status, birth ceremonies, and well, straight up telling us. Then they are trannies and not faggots. Guess how these eunuch priests presented and identified as? Very different from just normal gays or court eunuchs.
>>17817838
Third-genderness, rituals where they performed altered state of minds, playing instruments like the drums, some kind of magical power like prognostication, these are all things that we keep seeing amongst shamans and early priesthoods.
>>17819026
Check out the Valesians, they're some early pentecostal-esque group that focused on the holy spirit and they would castrate themselves. Origen who invented the trinity also castrated himself. The influence of these cults were massive on Christianity.
>>17819224
The worship of Cybele being so prominent in Rome itself, and her coming from Syra which is in itself a hotbed of tranny priests, makes it rather obvious to me that she was like them and that others would see the similarities. All the slander against Elagabalus is similar to the slander we read against the Galli so he was probably of a similar cognition/biology/whatever that caused the Galli to be trannies.

>>17817414 (OP)
>[W]e have been taught that to expose newly-born children is the part of wicked men; and this we have been taught lest we should do anyone harm and lest we should sin against God, first, because we see that almost all so exposed (not only the girls, but also the males) are brought up to prostitution. And for this pollution a multitude of females and hermaphrodites, and those who commit unmentionable iniquities, are found in every nation. And you receive the hire of these, and duty and taxes from them, whom you ought to exterminate from your realm. . . . And there are some who prostitute even their own children and wives, and some are openly mutilated for the purpose of sodomy; and they refer these mysteries to the mother of the gods.

St. Justin Martyr (First Apology 27 [A.D. 151])

That's a lot of fanfiction you trannies have been writing about history. Too bad nobody will ever learn it

>>17820532
meant for
>>17820149

>>17820532
You seem mad

>>17817414 (OP)
somebody post that book excerpt where ancient Ben Shapiro from Roman Alexandria seethes about how proto-trannies and proto-chasers are ruining society

>>17820549
No I just think it's funny how you freaks work
>uh I heard about "the first author to ever live" on reddit and I think we should say that they talked about trannies
>yippie I'm so hecking valid
that's called mental illness

>>17820552
That part is true at least from what I can see. Enheduanna wrote the oldest known texts and is the earliest known named author, and she wrote hymns to Inanna (who the gala worshipped), one of her poems references Inanna's power to "to turn a man into a woman and a woman into a man."

>>17820551
Sounds fucking funny

>>17820573
Yeah that's not crossdressing and taking birth control, that's actual magic

>>17820552
Did not read. You’re clearly too mad to reason with

>>17820573
My understanding was that in Sumerian society that wasn't considered a good thing, because it was taking someone out of their place in the order of things.

>>17817414 (OP)
>>17817417
>>17817435
>>17820552
rent free

>>17820604
>why is everything so gay about (subject)
>look it up
>there's a bunch of tranny blogs writing fanfiction about obscure historical figures
>trannies post it here
>get mad when you call them a tranny

>>17817419
Michael Jackson was gay (pedophile) though
>>17820608
Anon do you realize that OP and others like him are actually on your side and only post ragebait like this because they know you well enough to confidently anticipate you seething like you have for the past 10 replies?

>>17820617
I mean if OP hadn't made the thread I wouldn't know about tranny blogs writing fanfiction about obscure historical reddit figures

>>17820619
>Calling Enhuanna obscure
>Calling Roman empresses obscure
>Calling venerated Christian saints obscure
>Implying this much

>>17817414 (OP)
All indo european history is full of trannies. Itsjuwt a reality for their societies. They exported trannyism everywhere

>>17820578
It is, I really wish that I had it saved.

>>17820631
Yeah nobody cares about religion, looking to literal shut in priests probably on contemporary drugs to validate your modern psychosis is uhh, worse than the worst religious nut.

It's so funny to see how much we progressed but never changed.

>>17820579
Yeah though I think there's a bit more to it, one of the hymns references "the transformed pilipili, the kurjara and the sajursaj", and also picrel

>I later learned that her cult was entirely tranny priests.
Delving deeper I found tranny priests at the Temple of Artemis, Enarees in Scythia, and even entire temple complexes full of trannies in mesopotamia
They were eunuchs you retard, not trannys.

>>17820652
click that hyperlink nigga, don't just believe wikipedia

if you click the hyperlink on a dubious claim more often than not the source will immediately discredit itself. Then you know the exact opposite of what they claim is true

>>17820653
Enarees at least were feminine-presenting, wore womens clothes, had womens jobs and spoke like women and were viewed differently to men due to "divine transformation"

>>17820663
>Herodotus called these priests fags so he was being literal
you guys have no idea how to interpret history

>>17820664
I think you just don't like it personally

>>17820669
Take the sacred band of Thebes for example, gays thing they were gay because the greeks didn't like them so they called them faggots. Fags think this is literal

>>17820678
But this didn’t come out of a vacuum, it was common enough among people to become a universal insult, as you yourself said.
Why fags could be, but trannies couldn't?

>>17818916
> Brain disease causes you to want to look like a woman
> You look like a woman if you cut your balls off and use makeup
> To primitive mind brain disease seems like religious complusion
> Tell cissies that you're doing this for religion to get them to accept you
It was really that simple back then.

>>17820693
I don't think wasting time on hypotheticals about a society that had more stringent views towards homosexuality is worth it. The only reason the fanfiction is being written is because academia has failed and is self perpetuating their own vomit

>>17820697
Archeological evidence supports that trannies crossdressed and lived as women and castrated themselves. They were buried with the exact same shit the eye accounts describe.

>>17820693
Because they have a personal vested interested in believing gender dysphoria was made up by big pharma or whatever and not something humans have had for thousands of years
> Why
Because it makes hating trans people easier ig I never really got why. Christians were completely fine condemning fags and also saying faggotry was ancient

>>17820710
nope

>>17820697
Ok, but what mental illnesses we didn't have back then? Any neurological disorder I can think of has records in history even when it wasn't named. Just denying existence of something because aaaaaaaaaaaaaaactually it was something else and y'all are wrong is kinda silly, don't you find it?

>>17820719
Well again these people don't really care about evidence. It's a psychological need for them to believe trannies are just made up bullshit because then they'd have to confront their world view ya know

>>17820712
please don't be a cuck of christ for god sake

>>17820710
Let me give you an example of people faking archaeological finds, sub saharan africa. They find archaeological sites that people are still living in and using today. For instance, thousands of years old pottery furnaces being used to burn trash or whatever. Hoods coming by and messing with them, farmers sticking shit in there. You get it. They find modern iron implements in these sites and then say "well this iron is 5 gorillion years old, like the site is".

China says they found the first large feathered dinosaur. and it's as big as the T rex! They call it CHINESE TYRANT. Oh woops it's probably faked

>>17820730
Now I'm not even saying that the evidence you talk about was faked, just that it's misinterpreted, on purpose.

Writing history isn't objective

>>17820719
I think people back then just got fucked in the ass rather than worry about metaphysically becoming a woman. ACTUALLY there would have been so much societal pressure on them not to be weird that they probably wouldn't even act on the urges.

>>17820730
This is the dumbest way to handwave away archeological evidence. The way we found these tranny skeletons and uncovered their stories was done in a very organic way and supported by all kinds of different disciplines decades before people really knew what a contemporary tranny was

>>17820738
So just your subjective view? Got it. I'm done.

>>17820745
>tranny skeletons
how large was their birth canal

>>17817414 (OP)
>nothing about trannies that screams spiritual to me
You couldn't possibly be more wrong. Trans and gender non-conforming people are inherently liminal beings. The crossing of boundaries, including and perhaps especially those of gender, has always been associated with witnessing the presence of the spiritual within the material world.

>>17820770
aren't they mostly just autists the industry is stealing money from? Who's making all the hormones for these sad sacks

>>17820653
Artemis has a myth where she turns a man into a woman, not into a eunuch

>>17820678
people call gay people fags in modern society too, it doesn't mean gay people aren't a common part of modern society

>>17820800
You know why that would be seen as something extreme? Because it's something that doesn't exist in real life

>>17820804
it indicates that the ancient greeks had a concept of men turning into women, and that it was associated with Artemis
also consider the bicameral mentality theory that the ancient greeks considered internal dialogue to be a voice from the gods, and that socrates called the internal dialogue a "daemon", or unspecified entity. One could take a possible interpretation that gender dysphoria was seen as directed from the gods, perhaps Artemis specifically

>>17820826
Yeah they thought turning into a different sex was so fantastical it would be the realm of Gods

>>17820828
yes and obviously it was at the time
the best they could do was castration
though there is a theory that the scythians used pregnant mare urine for estrogen, but I don't think that has good support

>>17820830
Instead of projecting your modern homo mind rot onto them why don't you research why they said they did it

>>17820551
>>17820578
FUCK I know exactly the pic you mean and I can't find it either, I sent it to a friend on FB but I can't scroll back far enough
ask /tttt/ they'll remember where it's from

>>17820775
Estrogen costs like a buck a week it's really not that expensive

>>17820934
oh I didn't know if it was like insulin or something

>>17820980
No it's actually pretty inexpensive to be on hrt. It costs me like 120$ for a 4 month supply which works to like a dollar for prog and estrogen a week
Also like if you don't enjoy it you'll whig out after a month on it honestly the only people taking estrogen for more than 6 months like being on estrogen

Question for the actual trannies ITT: I have a high hairline but no serious balding. I'm considered a good candidate for hair transplant. Is there some taxpayer funded fag ticket I can ride on to get a discount on this procedure? Like if I tell the doctor I'm a woman, it's gender affirming care and should be free right?

>>17821488
No, nothing like that exists, they don't help you with hair. Healthcare for trannies is abysmal and hard to access anyway even if they did. Dr Powers has a topical hair serum you can get compounded but it has minox so you would need to keep using it. Best of luck though, hope you work it out

>>17820865
Was the author actually named Ben Shampiro?

>>17820551
>>17820578
>>17820865
>>17821990
Think I found it? I remember SOME guy called Ben or Shapiro that complained about trannies. This is Philo of Alexandria's account however.

>>17821488
just use rosemary oil

>>17821488
You can maybe get insurance to cover it but you'd have to spend at least half to a full year on hrt. Generally your best bet is to do minoxidil + finasteride but like if you want to transition just do minoxidil + hrt.
I think the cheapest hair transplants are India and Turkey, but if you're trans Mexico is a far better bet than those countries

>>17822095
even though I'm a christian and quite anti-semitic, this makes me respect Philo much more than any pagan

>>17822095
>known since ancient times that faggotry and trannies arise from pedo shit
>still to this day there is a push to normal it
Crazy. This should be taught in schools, not whatever bullshit Ghislaine’s dad peddles

>>17820477
>>17822095
stuff like this makes me not despair when I see what is around myself because I can identify with and wish to emulate them, thank God for such holy and wise people

ultimately the ancient transgender existed in a liminal category male and female, just as shamans witches and priests existed in a liminal sphere disconnected from the rest of the public. even in alchemy we see the recurrent idea of a divine hermaphrodite synthesizing sexual polarities

modern transgender ideology tries to explain this behaviour materialistically and focuses excessively on "trans acceptance" rather than embrace the liminal status of transgender existence. meanwhile modern spirituality tends to abhor liminal categories and tries to bring everything under one profane banner

moreover, modern medicine tends to pathologize various mental conditions which would have been seen earlier as indeed a form of madness but a divine madness

>>17818988
this. because our worldview has been degraded by liberal atheism and monotheism, we are unable to recognize that autogynephilia is actually a symptom of possession by the goddess aphrodite. reject atheistic and abrahamic culture war trappings op

>>17822095
Troon madness extend to ancient times I see. Why can't society just leave us alone

>>17822274
>castration was seen as a way to purify the individual, severing ties with earthly desires
>castration was also a punishment for homosexuality
>removal of the genitalia made them more trustworthy and less prone to subversion
>the inability to father children removed even more motives for them to have
>commoners would self-castrate to try and gain access to royal palaces

>The Galli would self castrate as a symbol of their devotion to their goddess, "galli" meaning "to cut"
>The Anatolian goddesses’ rites involved cacophonous music, howling, and ecstatic dancing with circular head-tossing, flagellation, and cutting
>men slash their arms with sacred knives, and are cut to pieces to frenzied Phrygian rhythms
>the Galli in great numbers, sacred as they are, perform the ceremonies of the men and gash their arms and turn their backs to be lashed
>with a loud shout bursts into the midst of the crowd, and picks up a sword from a number of swords … kept ready for many years for this purpose. He takes it and castrates himself and then runs wild through the city, bearing in his hands what he has cut off.
>Women desire the Galli and the Galli go mad for a woman. Yet, no one is jealous, for they consider the matter quite holy

>>17822425
>genital sex was possible for priests who had been adults at the time of emasculation
>castrated priests of Adonis engaged in sexual congress
>men undeserving of the name forgot the dignity of their sex, and propitiated the demon by their effeminate conduct; here too unlawful commerce of women and adulterous intercourse, with other horrible and infamous practices, were perpetrated in this temple as in a place beyond the scope and restraint of law.
cutting off your bollocks was borderline illegal if not outlawed so people didn't like it
>the Galli enjoyed legal impunity from charges of sexual misconduct
>Their sexuality was feared and ridiculed ... because castration ... affronted Roman norms of masculinity
>“The ancients looked upon Attis (and likewise the gallus) as a semivir, a "lesser man"

>>17822481
>Apulius also despised the Galli as manipulative
mendicants exploiting their rites for gain:

Dressing in bright array, beautifying their faces un-beautifully, daubing their cheeks with rouge, and highlighting their eyes off they went, in turbans and saffron robes... waving frightful swords and axes, leapt about and chanted, in a frenzied dance to the stirring wail of the flute … . On reaching the gate [of a wealthy manor], they rushed in wildly, filling the place with tuneless cries, heads forward, rotating their necks in endless circling motions, their long pendulous hair swinging around them, now and then wounding their flesh savagely with their teeth, and at the climax slashing their
arms with the double-edged knives they carried. One … began to rave more ecstatically than the rest, … simulating a fit of divine madness … . Then he snatched up the whip, the insignia of those emasculated creatures … and scourged himself savagely with strokes of its knotted lash, showing amazing fortitude given the pain from his gashes. The ground grew slippery with blood from the flashing blades and flailing whips … . But when they were weary at last of self- flagellation, or at least were sated, they ceased their antics and took up a collection, people vying for the pleasure of dropping copper coins, and even silver, into the ample folds of their robes. In this manner they roamed about plundering the whole region

>>17820656
>Then you know the exact opposite of what they claim is true
Reversed stupidity is not intelligence.

>>17822505
if somebody is lying about something then what they say is a lie, meaning they're manipulating the truth. The truth will often be the opposite of the lie of what they are trying to spin

>All castrated men, religious or secular, were barred from rights accorded to either sex and were not recognized in Roman law

>>17822522
>adult castration was usually punitive
>adult castration was usually punitive
>adult castration was usually punitive
>adult castration was usually punitive
>adult castration was usually punitive
>adult castration was usually punitive

>>17822525
Castration puts a man outside archaic
society in an absolutely irrevocable way: being
neither man nor woman, but ‘nothing'

>>17822509
The point is that if someone can't be trusted then their saying something tells you nothing about its truth or falsehood, because even pathological liars inevitably make plenty of true statements as well.
https://www.lesswrong.com/w/reversed-stupidity-is-not-intelligence
I would be curious, though, about a specific example of how one of the sources in question discredits itself.

So to sum it up, no there weren't transgender priests, they were considered insane (hetero) sex cultists without testicles that forced people to pay them money by busting into their homes with swords and screaming and cutting themselves to bleed all over your patio. Modern homosexuals think that because the Romans didn't recognize them as citizens because of their castration that that means they were afforded a special categorization as transgender. Rather, not being recognized by the Roman government was punitive for their castration and general behavior. Castration was outlawed in Rome and was usually used as a punishment, usually for slaves that committed adultery.

>>17822544
>if someone can't be trusted then their saying something tells you nothing
In order to spin an elaborate historical lie you have to rely 90% on real history

>>17822560
Yes, so if you don't already know which 10% is false the document tells you essentially nothing.

>>17822563
If you already understand general human behaviour and the current societal zeitgeist you can very easily see lies without knowing anything about the subject historically

Then all it takes to debunk it is to learn the actual history

>>17822566
this is why looking for bold claims on wikipedia with hyperlinks is the easiest way to debunk historical propaganda and revision

>>17822566
Can you give a specific example?

>>17822573
Somebody the other day posted a "french convert" from holocaust denial, wrote multiple books blah blah blah. They expect you to read his entire series and then debunk it. When really all you have to do is go to his wikipedia page and find the most outlandish claims with hyperlinks and follow them

Eventually I found a website celebrating how much this guy was a crazed lunatic, something that's not normally supposed to be seen by people trying to pretend this guy has any credibility. A leftist website. On that website it celebrated his conversion from "being a nazi" with direct quotes from him. One of the quotes was about his "coming out" while visiting Auschwitz and how just being there made him want to commit ritual suicide.

So this expert, posted by a leftist, behind 3,000 pages of nonsense, is immediately discredited as a crackpot in 5 minutes

>>17822580
...and all the non-insane people who agree the Holocaust definitely happened?

>>17822591
Are gullible as shit

>>17822591
You're being emotional and not thinking logically. Wikipedia is great because leftists will hyperlink their websites as sources and then immediately show that they have no idea what they're talking about and are insane

>>17822598
Ah, so you're just an idiot. Never mind, then.

>>17822608
The “holocaust” is just the same as the US internment of Japanese, German, etc. Had the US been totally defeated as the Nazis were there would be the same mass starvation and disease killing those interned as what happened in Nazi camps. The j*ws and others died from starvation due to lack of resources, disease, and revolts being put down, not some elaborate killing scheme. There would be no reason to allow hospitals and births or anything other than just slicing their neck when they get to the camp.

Why would it be better to let your enemies roam free within your borders than to put them in a camp?

>>17822623
Lets not debate the validity of the holocaust and instead address the hilarious fact that as soon as a liar sources their lie the lie becomes debunked but they can't understand what is happening because everybody around them tells them it's true

>>17822623
>Why would it be better to let your enemies roam free within your borders than to put them in a camp?
I reject the premise that every single member of an ethnic group can be the enemy of a state merely on the basis of their ethnicity.

>>17822636
You mean a race can't be the enemy of another race?

>>17822641
No, a person is your enemy on the basis of what they do, not merely of how they were born. A group distinguished only by an inborn trait will never be uniform in its attitudes or behaviors. If there were Jews harming Germany their responsibility was to deal with those specific Jews, not every single Jew merely on the basis that they were of the same ethnicity as those doing the harm.

>>17822645
You fundamentally don't understand human nature which is probably why you are naive and believe other people's lies

>>17822648
What exactly don't I understand about human behavior that leads me to believe that ethnic groups are not hiveminds?

>>17822650
people believe what they want to believe, doesn't make it true

>>17822653
Then why do I, an Irish-American, have radically different views and behaviors from some other ethnic-Irish people?

>>17822659
Because you're a cultureless import slave assimilated into an anglo oriented 13 year brainwashing system and something went wrong

>>17822660
So how do we determine which is the true Irish viewpoint?

>>17822666
A people's worldview is often NOT true, that is the nature of humanity

>>17822670
You know what I mean. What is the truly Irish viewpoint, the one that I authentically ought to be holding?

>>17822672
Well this is just my personal opinion and doesn't mean anything but I don't think most nationalism is organic and we're all still tribal beings

>>17822672
Lying.

>>17822674
Then, the authentic viewpoint that a Gael ought to hold.

>>17822677
Every race's natural proclivities will be towards their own race. People that came to the US purely for financial reasons are lost sheep and I think that's why most Irish are in the US. The US is just an anthropological experiment by godless naturalists and deists

>>17822680
What about the ones who came to the US to not starve to death?

>>17822683
Illegally shunted themselves onto the US to be fed you mean? Displacing natives? I don't really care that was too long ago

>>17822687
What, so they should have just stayed and let the British genocide them?

>>17822691
If the irish were intelligent they would have dropped their contrarian charade against the british hundreds of years before the famine, but I suppose most of that was manipulated into them by the catholic church

>>17822694
What, just go along with the people who wanted to destroy their culture and assimilate them into good little British subjects? Doesn't that go against their tribal imperative?

>>17822698
What culture? Catholicism? You're fakin druids mate

>>17822701
The Irish language, for one. When a language dies it takes a whole worldview with it.

>>17822707
Irish culture died as soon as Palladius and Saint Patrick landed

>>17822711
Then no European culture has existed in centuries.

>>17822716
technically we're all larping as romans

>>17822716
(And therefore there was no German culture for Hitler to defend.)

>>17822721
Germans tried to break this cycle by appealing to aryanism

>>17822726
How's that supposed to work when their culture died over a thousand years ago?

>>17822727
Because you can just research what you did in the past? why do you think they were so obsessed with learning about where they came from

>>17822728
So they decided to LARP as a dead culture?

>>17822732
yes

>>17822738
So why should that be taken more seriously than any other LARP?

>>17822744
Because the US did it too and they control the world, but not to the same extent

>>17822748
When did the US start LARPing as a dead culture?

>>17822751
1776

>>17822754
What dead culture did they start LARPing as?

>>17822759
Mostly anglo saxons

>>17822760
How do you figure? They made no attempt as a nation to break away from Christianity; the Founders who weren't Christians were Deists, not Anglo-Saxon polytheists.

>>17822766
not religiously, culturally and legalistically

>>17822770
>The ties of loyalty to a lord were to the person of a lord and not to his station; there was no real concept of patriotism or loyalty to a cause. This explains why dynasties waxed and waned so quickly, since a kingdom was only as strong as its leader-king. There was no underlying administration or bureaucracy to maintain any gains beyond the lifetime of a leader. An example of this was the leadership of Rædwald of East Anglia and how the East Anglian primacy did not survive his death.[186] Kings could not make new laws barring exceptional circumstances. Their role instead was to uphold and clarify previous custom and to assure his subjects that he would uphold their ancient privileges

>>17822777
And this was mostly in reaction to the brits treating the US like an extracting colony without representation

You can see how by using anthropology and history the intellectual orchestrators of the US revolution justified it by suggesting the US existing as an extractionary colony "violated their ancient privileges"

>>17822824
That's why the declaration of independence was just a list of complaints to the king

>>17822274
Based

>>17822274
the most interesting transgender artists are the ones who recognise themselves as a third category apart from male or female and use it in a spiritual capacity, they're the few who've broken through the veil of the customs of our time to fully recognise the more perennial role of transgender people in human society, the rest should be following their example instead of wasting time on ideas of 'gender identity' and the like

>>17823668
Hmmm I wonder why more aren’t openly trans and themselves and instead try to go binary and stealth

>>17821488
real life isn't your psychotic fantasy. ofc we have to pay out of pocket for things like this. no free lunch

>>17823668
This is completely delusional but also entertaining

>>17823899
sums up this thread and everything about trannys

>>17823907
This thread has some good stuff in it, mostly by me *burp*

>>17822204
>christian and quite anti-semitic
why do you hate your masters so?
it's always funny to me that the hebrew golem hates it but serves it in every aspect
you growl as you pay your taxes to Israel

>>17823778
captured by western conceptual frameworks

>>17823778
The binary thing is just because there was no space for a third gender in Christianity. Third gender and ladyboys are much more frequent and more natural probably

>>17822600
>muh leftists
Do you think right wing politics is about denying the holocaust

>>17825220
Leftism is about arriving at conclusions with incomplete evidence to create some hackneyed narrative that you try to convince other people of for personal gain

>>17825275
Not what I asked.

>>17825367
Right wing politics would be the upholding of Christianity which validates monarchism, imperialism, feudalism etc. Since Christianity and monarchical claims using Christianity have no actual factual basis "right wing" is as intellectually fallible as the left. The difference is we know it works

>>17825275
>>17825396
Is this board just about huffing each other's farts?

>>17825413
I think it's more about debate

Must every thread devolve into holocaust debates though

>>17826146
It's just the largest punching bag and a perfect example of historical propaganda. Like greeks being gay

ACTUAL propaganda which are just lies were are told and believe all follows the same debunking process. I'm so disinterested in the holocaust as an actual event that I don't mean any offense if I bring it up.

>>17817414 (OP)
The union of male and female is inherently spiritual. It is the joining of two complementary opposites into a whole, from which a new divine thing arises. This is why they are mostly centered around religious activities. The more secular cope is that people experiencing mental illness in that time didn't have the proper / modern means of expressing and treating it, and often defaulted to spiritual avenues. Either way, this is the reason why modern trannies are mostly insane - they are either spiritually anemic, or their madness is not funneled into divine madness. It's also why a lot of them are intelligent.
The more you explore the European tradition (and some non-European traditions, like Hinduism [which is still disseminated from Indo-European practice] and Egyptian), the more you'll see instances of "trannies". The word "transgender" is a lot like the word "gay", in that it is a modern and secular invention to describe something that was already an established and understood phenomenon. It furthermore pollutes the idea with modern conceptions and baggage. Trannies are hermaphrodites (which is being used separate from the medical term, which is more recently called "intersex", although one could argue that the root cause of transgenderism is a neurological intersex condition itself). There are a lot of examples of hermaphrodites in myth and ancient spiritual practice.
The hardest pill to swallow is that it's Judaic thought and tradition which demonizes them. The desecration of the concept of the holy hermaphrodite has been a concerted effort by Jews and the cults and practices they fostered, like Christianity. Anything that comes from the Judaic tradition is inherently opposed to this concept, and most concepts that are sexual in nature. This is because Jews are inherently neurotic and follow a puritanical law. It's one of the reasons Jews and Christians in Rome were so controversial and unable to assimilate, aside from their theological differences.

>>17826190
The fact that these cultures didn't even have words for what you guys propose is the most insane part of your theory crafting

>>17826193
The word is "hermaphrodite", which is what I said.
The word is literally derived from the god, Hermaphroditus.

>>17826197
Hermaphrodite was never used to describe this invisible class of trannies you think exist

>>17826203
They didn't have the same language as us and didn't feel the need to make distinctions about such a small group of people. They called them Galli when they served as priests of Cybele. Plato also describes androgynous beings in Symposium. There was no need to cast a wide-sweeping term because they didn't exist to the extent that they do in modern times, and they didn't have the same kind of establishments in place which cared to do it. People just called them what they appeared to be. What I'm saying isn't that they had big systems in place to take care of those people, what I'm saying is that the concept existed and showed itself periodically in society and mythology. The erasure of the concept is a modern phenomenon. From all I've seen, everything points to the Judaic tradition being the reason this happened. They attempted to overturn everything Hellenistic and inherently European. If it wasn't a concerted effort, it was mostly due to spiritual and philosophical incompatibility.

>>17826221
I don't know how your entire theory is based around coping with people pointing out you have no actual evidence
>They called them Galli when they served as priests of Cybele

"Galli" is from indo european meaning "to cut" or "the cutters" and they would ritually slice open their skin to bleed in public and then demand payment. These were not trannies these were religious cultists

>>17826230
Religious cultists would be masochistic at times but these wonderful women did it not because pain sanctifies them, but because it would bring them endocrinologically closer to women. As well as everything else they did and identified as

>>17826146
Yes

>>17826872
Makes shit boring

>>17826328
They did it for money, prietsts were essentially whores to public donations

Why do you think there was such a huff about pilgrimages to fake religious sites and idols

>>17826328
Great bait

>>17817414 (OP)

Turn to Christ. Pagan gods are demons.

>Elagabalus
faggot
>India, Pegu, Congo, Nigera, South-Africa.
lmfao, might as well go get cannibalized as well?
>Ishtar, Astarte, Artemis Ephesus, Kubeleya, Cybele, Cybele-Rhea, Magna Mater, Anahita, Artimpasa
literally all tranny fanfiction, most of these are the same goddess of war under different names of different cultures having nothing to do with transexual perversion. truly fitting given how delusional you are.

>>17830567
Ishtar is literally the goddess of trans people and she loves all of them

>>17830567
Elagabalus literally said "don't call me lord, for I am a lady" and offered massive sums of money to any surgeon who could give her a vagina.

>>17820617
Michael Jackson was gay but not a pedophile, that’s a slanderous assault pushed by the music industry that hated him for threatening their power

>>17831085
elagabalus was like a 16 year old when he said that you stupid tranny creep, he was a crazed faggot with fetishes after all. any instance of this bullshit in the past has nothing to do with modern perversion
>her
kill yourself

>>17831090
Youre retarded. He was accused of pedophilia in private years before he called out the jews with "Kick Me, Kike Me". Everyone always uses this as a cop-out but the fact is the actual evidence presented in trials are damning.
>inb4 ur a jooooo
HARD MODE: Explain how the children described wacko's cock and balls in detail.

>>17817414 (OP)
Because you are one

>>17817414 (OP)
You won't ever get me to transition

>>17833586
they got me, i just ordered the pills

>>17826190
>There are a lot of examples of hermaphrodites in myth and ancient spiritual practice.
The hardest pill to swallow is that it's Judaic thought and tradition which demonizes them. The desecration of the concept of the holy hermaphrodite has been a concerted effort by Jews and the cults and practices they fostered, like Christianity. Anything that comes from the Judaic tradition is inherently opposed to this concept, and most concepts that are sexual in nature. This is because Jews are inherently neurotic and follow a puritanical law. It's one of the reasons Jews and Christians in Rome were so controversial and unable to assimilate, aside from their theological differences.

The next major western religion will be founded by a Gnostic Trans Woman. It's the natural progression of the trans valuation of western values

>>17826230
>>17826328
leading tranny pharmacologist

people who want to do that sort of thing always existed, i guess society has varying ways of dealing with that

>>17821488
Go to a non Western Euro/America country and pay a doctor a few thousand bucks, like every tranny ever. Trying to get the free option will get you a butcher doctor at best, and nothing at worst.

I hear Turkey is good for hair transplants.

>>17829558

THIS.

>>17833948
Low iq

bump

>>17831810
What exactly do you think is the difference between a person born male today who says "I'm actually a woman, I wish I had a vagina" and a person born male 2000 years ago who says "I'm actually a woman, I wish I had a vagina"?

>>17817414 (OP)
That's so based, they should bring them back

>>17817838
Nah that just proves that trannies are based.
BTW could you give some exampes of the tranny shaman-priests you found for research purposes?

>>17820678
Most ancient Greeks had nothing against homosexuality, especially of the pederastic kind, if it contributed to military virtue. This is just not how they viewed the world, they weren't puritan Christians. To the Grecian ethos, homosexuality was only explicitly bad if it made you feminine.

>>17822553
Your sound like a British colonial describing Hijra

>>17823668
Cis people prefer trans woman that third gender themselves rather than properly gender themselves this is known
https://substack.com/@taliabhatt/p-148363142

>>17825210
There is a third gender in western society it's just the tranny. That's literally it. Y'all are just made western society gets very upset when you fuck the trany instead of letting you use the tranny prostitute. Third genders almost always amount to "people who claim they are women but aren't according to us but obviously aren't men because they look like/relate/act like women

>>17826328
Reading this thread is committing masochism as a teanny
Sigh I should find a left wing man to hit me when I go on this board

>>17831810
> 16 year old trans girl today
> Call me she and her and I'd like a vagina when I'm older.
> 16 year old trans women then
> I will murder you if you don't call me a woman and will use the empires ill gotten gains on getting a vagina
Based?

>>17833910
Inb4 hdg turns into a cult where the affini are just on the other side of reality and the archons are keeping you from them

>>17817414 (OP)
>reading classics
>HOW DOES THIS HECKIN' RELATE TO TROONS
obsessed

>>17836381
Isn't 'third-gendering' oneself at least sometimes a matter of actually being non-binary rather than trying to appease cis people?

>the Gods

There is only one God. Jesus Christ.

>>17836404
truly we must return

>>17836466
Enbies do exist is just a lot of western third genders aren't really non-binary. Kathoey, Hijra, Transvesti are all usually just trans woman forced into a third gender role by the rest of society that won't consider women (but also wouldn't dare treat them like men). Westerns have this concept too we just call it the tranny or the faggot. This is why academics freak the fuck when you talk about these groups as transfeminine
Anyways since some of you seemingly consider me spiritual by nature of estrogen injection here's my advice. Do things that make the world materially better for others and you will be happy. The world is both kinder and meaner than you think. Hope that helps

>>17836551
You can also tell what terms people suggest are only for crossdressing men or are super secret third genders by going on pornhub or the equivalent culturally and see that "traps", "femboys", and "otokonoko" all have A cups that would make my Filipino step mom shoot herself over

bu-bu-bu-buuump

No idea anon, I'm sure it's just a coincidence.