Bros...............................God exists..........

I'm a Shinto, so I prefer to believe in many different, separate deities. You?

>>17836295 (OP)
Gods.........................
Bro exists...................................

>>17836295 (OP)
Quite possibly. But I'm not sure.

shit thread, die

>>17836297
>Weeb
kys
>>17836300
Fuck off
>>17836304
More than possible, undeniable
>>17836305
You too fuck off.

>>17836352
I want to believe. Unironically.

>>17836352

I'm not a fucking weeb, lol. I converted because I saw many coincidences, had spiritual experiences, etc. that lead me to believe that Shintoism is the true religion. I don't even like tr/a/nime.

>>17836355
How much anime had you seen before you converted?

>>17836387

I don't and have never watched anime, you nigger.

>>17836295 (OP)
Bro....if god existed everyone would be white.

>>17836355
Holy shit man... If someone as devoted as Simon Salva converted out of Christianity for Shinto then there must be something to it. I've cancelled my appointment for catechism at the local church and ordered some books on Shintoism instead.

>>17836295 (OP)
>God exists
Which one? there are over 10,000 religions competing for last place in worthwhile pursuits
Unless you're an Omnist (Cringe) or a Deist (Based)

>>17836399
>Which one?
The only one.

>>17836395
Clearly it is a cracked trip. Your pattern recognition is worthless. Also, it was never a Christian. It's a Catholic heretic.

>>17836524
>The one I believe in of course!
Retard.

>>17836355
>I'm not a fucking weeb, lol.
If you're a Shinto but not Japanese, you're 100% a weeb larper.

>>17836806

>cLeArLy tHeRe'S nO rEaSoN a NoN-JaPaNeSe PeRsOn WoUlD cOnVeRt To ShInToIsM

Also, what are your conditions for "larping"?

>>17836297
>>17836355
>watches Your Name once

>>17836832
Aren't you Christian? Are you a schizo or something?

>>17836355
>I saw many coincidences, had spiritual experiences
This would be better explained by abnormal mental states, than the truth of Shintoism

>>17836881

>t. atheistfaggot who thinks men can get preggers

>>17836352
Provide proof

>>17836399
there is only one single God, everyone understands only partial aspects of Him

>>17836955
Aquinas' five ways.

>>17836884
I literally can't spot thinking about trannies

>>17837029
I'm like Aristotle and measure an argument's strength by it's ability to persuade people
1000 years later, and no one who didn't already believe in God are persuaded by this bullshit

>>17836961
Which is why Deism is the only rational religion

>>17836355
>I saw many coincidences, had spiritual experiences
No, but seriously. Why you think this is evidence of Shintoism, rather than evidence of your brain being fucked up?
Did you experience something that couldn't be explained by mental illness?

>>17837106
Common atheist condition.

>>17837122

DEISM REFUTED:

1) God exists.

2) God does not interact with humans.

Implies: God knows of, but cannot judge humans.

1) Judgement is needed to enforce morality.

Implies: Deism has no morality.

Conclusion: Deism is equivalent to atheism, and since atheism is false, deism is false.

>>17837128
>It can't reason.
Big surprise. Enjoy Hell.

>>17837128
There is no morality.

>>17837128
God is not a moral agent. Treating God as though he were an absolute arbiter of good is what leads to the Epicurean paradox. This can simply be avoided if we concede to the fact that God is idiosyncratic in his actions and he does not always have humanities best interests in mind. Deism is more rational than Christianity.

>>17836295 (OP)

>>17837148
>You figured out what most people learn when they are 5
>I kneel
You are as stupid as him.

Paganism is pure pedophilia.

>In Liao Hao's Histories of the Gods, Vision #293 details Amaterasu raping a then 15 year old Sung-su to create the first emperor of Japan, Jimmu.

>>17837137
So it's ok for me to torture you to death with a chainsaw

>>17837117
>I'm like Aristotle and measure an argument's strength by it's ability to persuade people
Colossally retarded.

>>17837153
Thats NOT what Jordan Peterson teaches...

>>17837142
>muh epicurus!
Debunked.

>>17837151
but you follow shintoism dont you

>>17837117
>I'm like Aristotle and measure an argument's strength by it's ability to persuade people
>but only people who wear fedoras like me

>>17837162
Not debunked, you're just proving me right that God is not an absolute moral good.

>>17837164

No, I follow Roman Catholicism like my ancestors.

>>17837169
Romanism is a counterfeit Christianity

>>17837169
you said in this same thread that you follow shintoism >>17836297 so which is it

>>17837167

>>17837175

I didn't say that. I said I follow ROMAN CATHOLICISM. I specifically mentioned "I follow [...] Catholicism" in 17836297, dipshit.

>>17837169

>>17837179
If the only moral standards are the Abrahamic God then we're fucked because the Abrahamic God blesses those that beat infants against rocks and perform cannibalism

>>17837182
Because you deserve it.

>>17837181

>filename: SCREEN SHOT AT EAST COAST AUSTRALIA AT

Enjoy burning.

no one has an answer for why god allows evil that can reasonably play outside of our reality.
our good is permanently tied to bad.
to even hypothesize about decision-making on a plane absent of evil is impossible.
we don't even know what a world solely of good even means.
we can't understand why god didn't make a world without evil because we live in a world with evil.
it's just all about faith.

>>17837185
Are you actually schizophrenic?

>>17837184
Regardless of what you sociopaths think, it also means most Abrahamics are going to Hell anyways for not following in their own Gods moral lessons to a T. If Christians followed their Bible as closesly as Muslims follow the Quran, they would be just as violent. Do you see Muslim radicals as arbiters of good morals anon?

>>17837185
The Bible speaks about you, you know:
>[A] false witness will utter lies.
You just can't stop lying. Keep going, stoke those flames!

>>17837189
>If Christians followed their Bible as closesly as Muslims follow the Quran, they would be just as violent
Brain damaged

>>17837186
Which is why Deism is the only rational position

^See:

>>17837128

>>17837189
>Regardless of what you sociopaths think, it also means most Abrahamics are going to Hell anyways for not following in their own Gods moral lessons to a T
You don't know the Bible. I can never go to Hell. Also, you're lying about the teachings of the Bible, so those flames just got MUCH hotter. Have fun burning. I can't wait to hear your screams.

>>17837192
Okay.

>>17837197
I'm not the state

>>17837196
>>17837192
Okay.

>>17837195
You posted this by the way

>>17837198
Okay.

>>17837202

Satan possessed me to say that.

>>17837197
>>17837201
>>17837203
>literal intellectually dishonest cherrypicking
Have fun burning

>>17837201
Your reading comprehension is trash. I truly can't wait to watch you suffer in Hell, forever. I'll relish your screams. :)

>>17837203
See >>17837207

>>17837206
>>17837207
>>17837209
Okay.

>ITT: Christards are forced to do the absolute worst thing for their faith imaginable; read their own book

>>17837211
>>17837212
I see no problem. Also, I found one that applies to you. Have fun burning. :)

>>17837212
>If Christians followed their Bible as closesly as Muslims follow the Quran, they would be just as violent
>source: the great flood
Brain damaged

>>17837215
Slavery is okay as long as your slaver doesn't kill you

>>17837217
Okay.

>>17837219
>servant
>maid
>slave
Keep going, you're living proof of how retarded atheists are.

idk guys this God seems pretty fucked up

>>17836295 (OP)
Thanks be to God

>>17837226
>>17837228
Enjoy Hell.

>>17837224
Oh it absolutely refers to slaves, the KJV just sugarcoats it

>>17837230
Okay

how does Simon just effortlessly spew so much bullshit

>>17837230
Judge not lest you be judged.

>>17837232
Tick tock. :)

>>17837235
Right right, so like I was saying: Have fun burning.

>>17837237
Okay

When Atheists debate Christians, how come they actually have Bible verses to back up their grievances, but when Christians debate atheists, all they have are memes and strawmen?

>>17837245
You're trans

>>17837242
>out of context
Keep going, I want you to max out your punishment. This is great!

>>17837245
Christians don't actually read the Bible, if they did they wouldn't be Christian

>>17837245
>When Atheists debate Christians,
Nothing like that is happening now. It is just having its "I hate God" tumor flare up.
>how come they actually have Bible verses to back up their grievances
They don't.
>but when Christians debate atheists, all they have are memes and strawmen?
You're a liar. Please, lie some more. I want those flames to be roaring hot when they receive you. :D
>>17837249
Keep going!

>>17837251
>It is just having its "I hate God" tumor flare up.
This is true, in fact that's true 99% of the time

>>17837251
You're making this too easy dude

>>17837259
Keep going! I love this!

>>17837251
>It is just having its "I hate God" tumor flare up.
You cannot hate something that doesn't exist. Hating God is not Atheism, it's Misotheism

>>17837262
>You cannot hate something that doesn't exist
Exactly.

>>17837262
>expecting Christards to argue in good faith
You're fighting an uphill battle I'm afraid

>>17837262
Lie away, you're just making things that much worse for yourself. I approve, because I hate your guts. :)

>>17837275
This is so sinful and ungodly

>>17837267
Atheists don't hate God (because Atheists don't believe God exists in the first place) they just hate religion, it's not the same thing

>>17837259
You know that the Hebrew word in this verse is more translated as "youths", right? The same word is used for king David when he was commading armies against the Philistines.

Also, you seem to not be paying attention to what is being described to you: we have Elisha, and old man, traveling alone through the wilderness on his own towards Bethel, when all of a sudden he's being heckled by a group of over 40 "youths", you realize what they were right? You realize that he was in more danger than you think, right?

>>17837279
Sending bears to devour 40 children is not what a loving God does

>>17837277
>This is so sinful and ungodly
You are an holier-than-thou.

>>17837278
Tell me again about how you believe God is a monster. Atheism is the hatred of God and every atheist hates God.

>>17837285
If he did that because they called his prophet bald, imagine the agony he's going to inflict on you. I hope I get to watch!

>>17837279
He doesn't care, he's just expressing his hatred for God

>>17837289
I believe God, as depicted in the Holy Bible itself, is a monster, hating religion is not the same thing as hating God

>>17837296
>I believe God, as depicted in the Holy Bible itself, is a monster
You hate God because He exists.

>>17837294
It* doesn't care.
>>17837279
>You know that the Hebrew word in this verse is more translated as "youths", right?
You don't speak Hebrew. The King James is God's perfect word.

It seems like Abrahamics don't have the integrity or the balls to call a spade a spade and call out their God for what he really is, a spiteful retard. This is why I at least respect Gnostics

>>17837269
>I'm perfectly willing to lie and bring railing accusations against Jesus and his followers.
>Now debate me in good faith, Christian.
It's so transparent. Enjoy Hell.

>>17837304
>posting bible verses word-for-word is lying
????

>>17837303
www.enjoyhell.com

>>17837303
There is no surer sign of regeneration than when you love those attributes of God the world hates most.

>>17837285
What if those 40 "children" are about to kill an old man?

Also I repeat, the word translated here means more than mere "children", it's used for teenagers too.

>>17837301
>You don't speak Hebrew.
Right, but I can look up individual words and their meaning.
>The King James is God's perfect word.
No it isn't.

>>17837306

>>17837313
>No it isn't.
Tick tock.

>>17837313
>What if those 40 "children" are about to kill an old man?
Well, going by that verse it seems like the worst they did was call a man bald, if they were plotting to kill him, wouldn't the Bible be more explicit?

>>17837317
I'm Catholic.

>>17837317
Looks like they both believe we have the inspired, inerrant word of God. What's the problem with the guy on the right not being retarded?

>>17837321
>Well, going by that verse it seems like the worst they did was call a man bald
And you don't think that a group of again, 40 YOUTHS, not not just a couple of them, but what is basically a gang, heckling him while he was traveling ALONE on the wilderness were up to more than just calling him bald? The fact that God sends 2 bears to kill them all says to me that they were planning more than just making fun of him for his baldness.

>>17837322
Cool! Have fun burning.
>>17837324
>What's the problem with the guy on the right not being retarded?
The problem is that he is slightly above average IQ, and so he has a complex about how his intellect is perceived. This leads him into error and perdition as he rejects the simple truth of KJV onlyism.
>And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
Ecclesiastes 12:12

>>17837331
>And you don't think that a group of again, 40 YOUTHS, not not just a couple of them, but what is basically a gang, heckling him while he was traveling ALONE on the wilderness were up to more than just calling him bald?
I think you prefer your own imagination to what the King James actually teaches. Good luck with that.

>>17837303
The only problems with this are:
1. God allowed Himself to face suffering
Which surely shows He isn't spiteful, at least to our cries of pain.
2. God limits our understanding
Which shows he isn't necessarily retarded. He just doesn't allow us to comprehend everything.
Seeing God as evil, spiteful, or retarded can only come about depending on how highly you view yourself and your understanding.

>>17837331
When the KJV, the NIV, the NASB, and the NRSV all agree that it's talking about children here, "small boys" as the NRSV, I think you just need to accept that that's probably what it means unless you have a strong argument to the contrary aside from "it has to be x way because otherwise God would be immoral." God outright commands murdering infants in 1 Samuel 15:3, he destroys almost all life with a flood himself in Genesis, and he set up the situation that led to death being a thing everyone has to go through in the first place, so it isn't like we have much reason to expect that this character would be beyond sending bears to kill some children.

>>17837376
God is just to bring judgement against any fallen creature at any time and He will certainly do so to you if you do not repent.

>>17837376
>When the KJV, the NIV, the NASB, and the NRSV
You know we can just go to the original Hebrew and check, right? Why are you making an appeal to authority?

/^!tMhYkwTORI$/

>>17837393
>You know we can just go to the original Hebrew and check, right?
No, we can't. We don't speak Hebrew.

>>17837393
What's your idea of going to the original Hebrew that doesn't involve some level of trusting others to tell you what the words mean? Do you have a past life memory as Hebrew-speaking Jew 2500 years ago that allows you to directly intuit from the Hebrew text what the author meant without any mediation?

>>17837418
Look, I went to the Hebrew and I copy-pasted it into Google translate. What more do you expect.

>>17837128
I know you're a schizo and there's literally no point in arguing with you, but let's take a look at your reasoning:
>Deism has no morality
>Therefore Deism is equivalent to atheism
This is the biggest jump in logic I have ever seen. Let's just assume for a second that deism has no morality. Nearly every argument against atheism (transcendency bullshit, consciousness, matter from non-matter, etc.) is solved by introducing a God into the mix. If atheism is proven false by any of those methods (which i don't even believe is true), then deism is, by definition, not weak to those same arguments. In fact, you don't even need to go that far. Atheism is not believing in God, Deism is believing in God. They are two seperate, opposite beliefs.

>>17837142
epicoomers get the rope

>>17837317
>THE KING JAMES BIBLE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Anon please my fucking sides
you realize of course King James was a homosexual and his copy of the Bible is based on queen elizabeth’s Bishop Bible

no of course you don’t you think it dropped from heaven like a muslim worshipping the quran

>>17837463
>you realize of course King James was a homosexual
Those flames just got hotter.
>and his copy of the Bible is based on queen elizabeth’s Bishop Bible
Yep. I have access to wikipedia too. The Bishop's Bible was the rough draft. The King James is the finished product.
>LMFAO
Your opinion, on all topics, is completely worthless. :)

Yes.

>>17837471
the KJV is accepted by biblical scholars to be one of the worst translations of study bibles
the only worse option is the “The Message” bible

>>17837566

>(((experts))) say

>the bible that is the closest to the original hebrew/greek/aramaic is actually full of errors and shieeet

>>17837570
yes Jesus famously spoke english and not arameic, hebrew or koine greek

>>17837570
>>the bible that is the closest to the original hebrew/greek/aramaic
It's actually based on the Textus Receptus and the Masoretic Text that was compiled in the 10th century, newer Bible translations such as the ESV and the NRSVUe are actually based on more recently rediscovered original texts such as the Dead Sea Scrolls, which actually contain differences from the Masoretic Text

>>17836295 (OP)
Proof?

>>17836295 (OP)
Yes. Allah is truly magnificent

>>17836295 (OP)
>Simon Salva
>enjoyhell.com
>Chud Anon
Namefags deserve total obliteration.

>>17837153
Of course
It's not like it being "morally wrong" prevents you from doing so

>>17838108
>>Simon Salva
nigger thinks God anoints people to convert websites instead of nations
he's a fucking cancer on this site, does anyone not agree?

Sometimes I wonder if Christians comprehend how fucking retarded they sound and how bad they make the religion look. Then I remember that the core tenant tenant of their faith is faith and faith is self delusion. Believing in something you have no evidence for. Their whole religion is based on lying to themselves till they believe it. They are incapable of self reflection in any form.

>>17836295 (OP)
Big, if true

>>17836295 (OP)
God is just a word nothing more.