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Yes, you heard it. Everyone from Moses to King Solomon to Matthew to Gideon to Judas to John of Patmos is White. Not Jewish.
We have countless hours of scientific work and examination from scholars like Langdon Eckhart, Liam Matter, Michael H. Cramer, etc. and they ALL point to Christianity being 100% White.
For example, a study by Liam Matter published in the Journal Of Ancient Religious History, a journal with an IP of 20.4, reveals that the Apostle Paul's birth record was in GERMANY, and he was born in a town which is now part of modern-day Berlin.
We also know Jesus was FINNISH, not Jewish. He was born in modern-day Helsinki. In fact, JERUSALEM IS AN EARLIER FORM OF HELSINKI. THEY ARE THE SAME LOCATION.
Jerusalem = Herusalem --> Herusale --> Helasal --> Helsinki
Praise Christ. Fuck LARPagans. EUROPEAN PAGANISM is Jewish, NOT Christianity.
Debate me. I dare you.
>>17848850 (OP)>Christianity is WHITE>Jesus was a Lapp What did he mean by this?
>>17848851Lapps are colored like Berbers. Jesus had platinum blonde hair, milky white skin and icy blonde eyes.
>>17848852So he was Nordic, not Altaic.
>>17848852BLUE*. Woops. I'm a dumbass.
not this FUCKING thread again
>>17848856What do you mean "again"? This is the only time I've posted this.
>>17848858https://desuarchive.org/his/search/subject/christianity%20is%20white/username/simon%20salva/type/op/
4 times
>>17848865That Desuarchive site doesn't exist.
>>17848850 (OP)>Langdon Eckhartdoesn't exist
>Liam Matterdoesn't exist
>Michael H. Cramerdoesn't exist
>Journal of Ancient Religious Historybullshit, journal likely doesn't exist
>jerusalem to helsinkithis connection is meaningless, you could do it with basically any 2 city names
>paul was born in germanybullshit
>everyone from moses to john of patmosBULL. SHIT.
>europaganism is jewishsource?
>crusty kang
>>17848893>your source: nuh uhKWAB.
>>17848895link your sources then
The birth records of the 12 Apostles were European -- Matter, et. al
https://www.harvard.edu/thesis/doctoral/history/matter-liam
https://www.yale.edu/phdtheses//history/l-matter
https://www.sacredchristianhistory.com/the-etymology-of-helsinki-jerusalem
To name a few.
>page not found
>page not found
>website can't be reached
>>17848907Copy the links directly, dumbass.
>>17848915I did, same result
>>17848850 (OP)That's why you Scandinavian lads need Catholicism. Because it has a room for White saitns to follow and look up. Reformation abolish saints worship and forced Whites to follow Jews exclusively
>>17848852>>17848854>>17848855Jesus' father was of the (singular among all berbers) Ionian-Berber kingly line of the Massylii, which is the origin of the "Messiah" lineage.
The story of Aeneas, Dido & Iarbas is a greek mythologic retelling of the very same Ionian/Eastern Med/Berber background of the Carthagenian region as a whole.
Julius Caesar himself had an Ionic-Maghrebian family background, which is why his adoptive son and anthropologist of roman history decided to rename the city of IOL/Cherchell after Julius Caesar into Caesarea of Mauretania. He did this because knew that the Berber cityname "Cherchell" ("waterfall" in berber), as well as "IOL" (A berber meaning "Sandy Island", likely a botched translation of Ionessos aka "The isles of Ionia") both referred to the etymologic root of IONIA which was the "OUTFLOW" of the Ionian rivers into the Aegean. Juba II is also who discovered and named the "Canary" Islands.
tldr;
Jesus' father Juba II renamed the Ionic city of the Maghreb after Caesar, because they both had Ionic heritage.
also, OP is a latent cumstain.
>>17848850 (OP)i recognize that image
>>17848850 (OP)my proof >My Shit
Langdon, matter, Crammer all in Common? >Shitty science
Rome never conqured even Germania >so No way the finns
>London, Landon, Roosevelt, Hyde park, Sam Hyde. Londoninium is Sam hyde therefore?All of there names are >Roman, Greek or Hebrew Germanic names like >Richard, Albert, Mondale and other shit aren't even in the Bible or as simple as the name's of Roman emperor's? but maybe I'm wrong and Christ is Aryan,
>>17848850 (OP)>Yeshua the circumcised Rabbi of Nazareth, son of Miriam, son of Jehovah, king of the Jews and the foretold Mashiach>Not Jewish
imagine the spiritual cuckoldry of worshiping the god of another people, and instead of just being honest, you have to invent this WE WUZ DA REEL JOOZ
sad
>>17848945I worship the White God.
>>17848850 (OP)Jesus demands to know the full version of this image
>>17848955>post the full and get banned goy
>>17848956>FREUDIAN SLIPJamie, screencap that
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17848850/#17848956
>>>17848955>
>>post the full and get banned goywhat did he mean by this?
>>17848962>>17848957>>17848960Stop lying and using fake evidence, demon.
So anyone got the source or not? I need to know for uhh...something something history and humanities...
This site should have stayed dead
>>17848964What are you replying to?!? The site desuarchive doesn't exist, and that ID doesn't exist on 4chan yet. We're only in the 12000000s as of 7/17/25.
You also don't know what a Freudian slip is, plus the thread didn't even start with an image.
>>17848850 (OP)>Yes, you heard it. Everyone from Moses to King Solomon to Matthew to Gideon to Judas to John of Patmos is White. Not Jewish.Those people didn't exist.
I have a theory that Simon Salva and Chud Anon are the same person, and this is all part of an elaborate psyop
>>17848970Even though we have a boatl--you know what, forget it. With this level of historical crackpottery and denial, you're beyond saving.
>>17848971i think he could be a fed working for a secretive cia memetic warfare project desu
>>17848975What the actual fuck are you talking about? Do you have any evidence or arguments other than
>GOD BAD kistianity bad derefore holy men bad and godz chosun aposuls are LE BAD!!1?
>>17848978Anyways, go back to your containment board.
>>>/x/
>debating christian white nationalism by using art from what I am pretty sure is Octoboy, who does twink/femboy hyperdick scat artwork
makes one ponder
>>17849057Octoboy isn't a real artist, and how would YOU know that? Do you recognize his art style, coomer heathen?
>>17849059I bet you have a real good eye for recognizing art styles, coomer.
Repent and stop jacking your dick red.
>>17849059I sure do
t. somebody who loves twinks, femboys, and scat porn
>>17849090So why are you using his cropped art for your white nationalist Christianity thread
Are you just in denial?
>>17849153What cropped piece am I using? Be specific.
>>17848850 (OP)the spirit of this age is fried dopamine receptors from too many boomer conspiracy internet circles.
>>17849168>St.Get that shit out of my face.
>>17848850 (OP)I thought Jews were White like "South Europeans"?
>>17849365Jews are not even human, they are of the Serpent Seed.
>>17848850 (OP)Why does /his/ get the most retarded namefags and posters in general?
>>17848850 (OP)>porn addict larps as christian just for another reason to meltdown over jews
>>17849424Why do you think I'm a porn addict?
>getting a trip
That was very polite of you. Adios then.
>>17849368But I thought Judeo-Italians brought le civilizzazione?
>CHRISTIANITY IS WHITE!!!!!
>*posts tranny cuckold porn*
>>17848850 (OP)Are you a Christian or a Shintoist?
>>17848850 (OP)His bussy is white with my seed
>>17850285I don't know what you're referring to.
>>17848850 (OP)Didn’t you convert to Shintoism?
>>17851080I am a lifetime Roman Catholic and I will never leave the true religion.
>>17851090>>17851072Simon you have been outted not only as a weird degenerate who is into gay tranny cuck porn, but a divider of interests, a spammer of the board, an instigator of religious shit-flinging and worst of all, a FAGGOT. you are hereby condemned by the enclave of shinto priests, the vatican, the assembly of schizo druids, and council of fedoras. you are EXPELLED from 4chan, your apostleship is STRIPPED. no longer shall anyone read your posts and take you seriously. soon enough people will just come to ignore you. BE CURSED!!!!!!!
>>17851169A. I haven't instigated anything.
B. You're exaggerating your LARP too much.
C. I am spreading the compelling word of God Almighty Himself, there will always be people drawn to it.
>>17848850 (OP)>We also know Jesus was FINNISHChristianity is... Asian?
Truth doesn't fear investigation.
>>17851189No? Finland is a European country.
>>17848850 (OP)Is it just me or is pale skin really cute on femboys?
>be simon salva>>>17851321>Is it just me or is pale skin really cute on femboys?
>>17851322What? What the fuck are you replying to, dumbass? A comment that doesn't exist?
>>17851324That ID doesn't even exist yet, we're still in the 12000000s.
>>17848850 (OP)simon ya fag
>original image: character pictured lifting his hoodie, revealing he's wearing nothing underneath which would cover his absurdly large implants
>>17852900Source? You're just making shit up.
>>17852906*crickets*
As expected.
>>17852966Show full, pussy. Show me you aren't lying.
>>17852972Why can't you? I also can't read the text on your post, it's fucking indecipherable.
>>17852977it says "i can't show this shit, the only thing covering his nipples are pasties." that's what i wrote, and its perfectly readable
>>17852982The OG image shows the character fully clothed, he's not even raising his sweater. He's just putting his hands on it.
>>17852985aight i'm done with this, i'm getting a headache
>>17848850 (OP)>could focus on how Christianity as a religion started in the Roman Empire >or how the new testament was written in Greek>or how great of an influence Greek and Roman thought had on christianity>or how much Christinaity was shaped by people from Europe >or how much of it was shaped by events and figures from Roman history>or even just on how intertwined Christianity became with European thought and identity for more than a thousand years>instead chooses to go on a schizo ramble about Jesus being finnish
>>17853729Jesus WAS Finnish, yea.
Also, both the OT and NT were written entirely in Hebrew.
>>17848850 (OP)Eckhart, Matter, and Cramer all have 5 PhDs between them, even more if you count everyone working in this field of research. That would be around 400 PhDs.
So who will I trust?
>a collective of people who have hundreds of alotted PhDs>LARPagans with mama and dada issues
>>17852966IS THAT FUCKING IMAGE REAL LOL
>>17853861It's real, but it's definitely not porn. See
>>17852985.
>>17853866No i have to look for this lmfao
>>17853870I FOUND IT LOL. Simon youre a egregious liar
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>>17853877Okay. I looked through my backlog and found the OG image. Is this what you're looking for?
>>17853903Patterns on the hoodie are weird, u sure this isn't edited?
>>17853905What patterns on what are weird, and how? You're making no sense, retard.
>>17853877Found what?
>>17853870Look for what?
>>17853903Can you fucking idiots stop badgering me about this image and others? I use only SFW content for my thread thumbnails and I've only ever uploaded such on here.
This is stupid. Stop fucking wasting oxygen over it.
>>17853918>Can you fucking idiots stop badgering meno
>I use only SFW content for my thread thumbnailswrong
>and I've only ever uploaded such on hereWRONG
>>17853926>hurr wrongProof?
>>17848850 (OP)So true.. rumor has it that Jesus was born in a village in Germany. Not even Bethlehem at all.
>>17853903can an anon verify this is photoshopped
This thread was derailed atrociously, but hopefully we can get back on track.
Helsinki and Jerusalem actually come from the same root word, Harl, which means "king".
Harl
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>>17854168Why do you watch extremely degenerate porn?
You must repent of your sins
God wants you to do what is right
There is no "white" god no "black" god only one Deity
He will assist you in all your travails if you come to know him and do what is correct
You must delete all the evil image filth off of all your devices ASAP!
>>17854231You're overreacting.
>>17854244I would have you off this board
>>17854247What are you even concerned about?
If you want to confound people, rolling around in your own filth like a pig only proves you are wrong yourself
Read!
>>17854249Your salvation by God's sovereign will from a sad affliction, pending your free choice to accept a hand up.
>>17854230What's confusing?
I read the whole Book of Mormon, Simon. I read it from cover to cover (out of order, over a period of time; with a pencil to mark the verses that were heartful to me). It is a glorious thing but you must trust the Lord that he did exactly as he intended with it.
YOU can read the Book of Mormon and gain a testimony that it is TRUE!
I would have you be Simon no more, and be as Peter, a rock of salvation to support you in affliction–but you must CHOOSE to do WELL by YOURSELF!
IN the name of Jesus Christ, BEGONE FROM HIM you devils!
>>17854260Use your words.
>>17854265How is that "based"? I am God's chosen apostle He picked to convert 4chan.
>>17854266BAHAHA what on earth is this?
>>17853903
>>17854247Based and redpilled.
>>17854267Why are you concerned? It's just the original image of
>>17848850 (OP).
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>>17854279I'm not able to Photoshop anything, I don't even know how to use FLIPACLIP for fuck's sake.
>>17854282u did a goo djob here
>>17854278
>>17852966Also, do you seriously believe THIS shit is real? He just added text only to bleep it out, and
>>17853903 is clearly the OG.
Don't believe just anything. Do some fucking critical thinking first.
>>17854288You must repent and accept the Gospel.
You should acknowledge the claim - the Book of Mormon is from Africa - otherwise you are confounded and a loser.
>>17854283Tell me which version of the OG OPic you believe. The one a crackhead photoshopped, or the one I got directly from Octoboy's twitter.
>>17854295Unfollow all obscene channels. You must let your self to heal.
>>17854296I'm gonna keep hiding your annoying posts, Mormonfag.
>>17854296Your sect is heretical. This is the last response you'll get from me.
>>17854298You are a heretic. They accord to the Nicene creed and (You) do not. I am glad however to accept your concession and forfeiture of all claimed authority.
I am the real prophet. You are a fake. You should repent of your sins and accept the Gospel of Jesus Christ in you rlife.
>>17852966This is bullshit.
>>17853903This is the real version.
Now stop fucking bugging me about the image, and let's talk history.
>>17854310In A.D. 421, the prophet Moroni on the isle of Comoros did seal the golden plates of his father Mormon. This is verifiable because the capitol city of Comoros is today "Moroni".
>>17854310Post hidden, poster is a loser a liar and a false apostle.
>>17853858>mama and dada issuesYou can grow past these, Simon. You can surely repent and God will save you from your sins.
>>17854318Absolutely. JIDF agents have been hard at work swarming my threads.
>>17848964You are the one with a demon.
>>17849437Because you refuse to repent.
>>17854320Fuck off, loser.
>>17854320Did you know the Book of Mormon is from Africa?
>>17849365Also,
>MED BAD!!! MED BAAADD!! Even though the Meds were the very first to accept Christ, and for that reason, they are better than (((you))), Nordcuck.
>>17854333The only medicine that will save you is the Gospel
>>17854334Mediterraneans, fucktard.
>>17848870Oh you mean Mediterranean white people - yeah sure that works enough.
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>>17854340Satan wants to bind man to sin, it is those of God who wish to make him free.
The Book of Mormon &c is important gnosis
>>17854283I also didn't shop that.
>>17854346If these posts aren't you
>>17851169 >>17852966 they may as well be. You are sad blemish on an otherwise interesting work-safe board. Repent!
Kolob is by Saggittarius A*
*the black hole at the center of the galaxy
*the star is in the name
>>17854348Delusional Mormongay. Please stop responding, my arm is tired of hiding your posts.
>>17854345Conflating satan with lucifer is jew devil gibberish, and if you can't distinguish the difference then you should figure it out before you speak on the subject.
>>17854352Satan wants to be called Lucifer
You need to study the scriptures - Doctrine and Covenants!
>>17854351>Please stopConfounded you remain.
>>17854352Where is that confusion in my post? You are disingenuous and a false poster.
I win again, against 2 false apostles.
>>17854355>Satan wants to be called Lucifersatan and lucifer are completely different and unrelated theological concepts, conflating them is jew devil gibberish
>>17854351>my arm is tiredMaybe you should repent of your sin
>>17854363>theological conceptsThere is Jesus as light-bringer and Satan who would have had himself be as such
Satan wanted man to have no agency; Jesus bade the Father's will be done. Satan apostatized.
>>17854370You should know Joseph Smith was a true prophet and the Gold Plates come from Africa! He gave us many scriptures including the other half of the Koran in the D&C revelations! And do not be confounded by the most difficult to wrestle with teachings of the savior given through this prophet - it is for edification that we must put effort in to comprehend and trust the Lord above all things.
See, Simon? I am the master even in your own obscene thread! Repent and believe the Golden Plates of Mormon.
Example: churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/87?lang=eng
The words are all correct, but it is obfuscated by scribes' including the "Even the nation of Great Britain" line as a part of the same entry as South Carolina, when it is a separate entry in the list of nations war would be poured out on (as it was: Civil War, WWI, &c)
>>17854341If you are just here to troll, why not confound everybody with true doctrines in stead of losing arguments against me?
>>17854373mormon religion is bullshit and you should feel bad for saying otherwise. the only semi-correct thing they ever did was to try and restore whites to their station as the only ones who have a place in Israel, but they rolled that aspect of it back almost immediately.
https://youtu.be/qcQthyiTA7c?si=3j4ze8iBkqSDufpg
Mormongay, begone. More importantly, be damned.
>>17848921You can still learn about saints, like Martin Luther and Joseph Smith if you want.
why is this the most replied to thread on /his/
>>17854388You should at least have mastered the New Testament doctrines before making false claims in error.
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment
>>17854389Condemn not the things of God, that ye may be found spotless at the judgment-seat of Christ.
>>17854389>damned.On whose authority? You have none in God who is almighty, so why do you make your vain proclamations? It is only embarrassing to you that you have no power here.
>>17854389>2. Native AmericansThat is why I claim the Book is from Africa, and is sealed to be behind a veil of unbelief. I did actually read the thing, so, I know what I am talking about, not that you shouldn't test what I say, but that you SHOULD.
>>17854393Because the guy needed to be confounded and instructed how to repent.
>>17854388>bullshitFunnily enough in the book of Zenos referenced in Jacob 5 the materials of the book are likened unto dung heaped at the root of failing fruit bearing trees, for a fertilizer. Maybe if you let the Lord dung you you shall be as a most healthful thing afterwards.
>>17854395>Judge not according to the appearanceTrying to deprive his people of their discernment in this critical matter is the work of the devil. You would have the goats and sheep remain un-separated, the chaff and the wheat undistinguished.
>>17854408>Trying to deprive his people of their discernment in this critical matter is the work of the devil.Nobody would agree with you more than Joseph Smith. He is a true saint and an American hero.
>>17854408I am glad that you are concerned for the sheep and want to comfort you with the knowledge that the Lord has a plan for us even in our times. Joseph Smith's name as prophecy predicted is had for good or evil among almost all men; he is a promulgator of a great intelligent gift of our savior. You must trust that you have the discernment to not be deceived to your peril by a simple book.
>>17848850 (OP)>nose ringGross
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>>17852966Is this anon telling the truth, simon seems oddly adamant he isn't
The Book of Zenos
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/jacob/5?lang=eng
>>17854426>POOP SHIT FART frogEnjoy Hell.
>>17854426He is replying to himself a lot in this thread; see
>>17854230 where he forgot to take off his nametag.
>>17854431No, simon is a constant self contradictory retard. doubt he forgot
>>17854393Because there is no separate religion board
>>17854434Any way he is confounded; in this thread
>>17854332 I have defeated him and he forfeited his claim to authority unto me.
>>17854426Verily the Book of Mormon is TRUE.
>>17848850 (OP)I visited /his/ for the first time and I see this. Alright can anyone give me the scoop because Im confused you people seem to know him
>>17854236i-is that a
Red
Pill?
>>17854413Comprehend the trinity if you seek God's plan for salvation where it was there best articulated most concisely.
>>17854461>trinitasNot in the Bible
>filioqueNot in the Creed
LDS theology Godhead is actually more orthodox than Western schismatic Arian philosophic diatribes
If you believe the Koran (did you claim to?) you should know better than to say God is three - Arians of all flavors (especially PresbytArians) sin against God by adding falsely to the creeds and trying to impose it on others.
Do not confound the essence
Do not confuse the persons
>>17854454simon is a lying christcuck NEET who first migrated here from /pol/ and /b/ in june, nd ever since hes been shitting out post after post after post full of fake pseudohistory bullshit. i dont know how the mods haven't banned him for good yet. if you want to check out the full extent of his autistic crusade then just search "simon salva" on archived.moe
>>17854461>plan of salvationJoseph Smith has that perfect
>>17854464Now that he is confounded in argument he has no reason to be here anyway
>>17854467He does not seem like a malicious character however so I hope he does repent and grow out of his sin by God's grace
>>17854463Denial of the spirit is forbidden because if not for the fall having sewn it into the flesh of his people then the Son would never have been required for the restoration of all parts of God into one which occurs in Christ.
>>17854472I am enjoying talking with you but I am not entirely sure where you are coming from - I hope I do not accidentally confuse you into thinking I say one thing when I really say another. I am not entirely sure what your comment is addressing but it is on important matters so if I was able to give a sort of answer I would want to.
>>17854472Blasphemy of the Holy Ghost according to Joseph Smith is once the heavens have been opened up to you if you should chose to go the way of malice towards humanity and work against man's salvation you would be an unforgivable apostate.
>>17854480better edit than simon cuckva trying to cover his tracks
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>>17854484>according to Joseph SmithNothing that is said according to Joseph Smith is relevant for the salvation provided by the Lord in Christ.
>>17854510Doctrines of Christ lost by scribes are restored by the prophet for these days.
>>17849390religious debate shifted here from /pol/
>>17854514>>17854521Nothing Joseph Smith said is of any relevance, and any attempt to state otherwise is ignorance.
>>17854532Blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is once the heavens have been opened up to you if you should chose to go the way of malice towards humanity and work against man's salvation you would be an unforgivable apostate.
>>17854532Joseph Smith is relevant because he was a prophet and restored the Gospel. Anyone who preaches a different gospel, may they be accursed.
>>17854501Based Old Testament follower.
>>17854341I'd be ashamed too if I had flooded the religion board with obscene materials.
>>17854333Corretto! Brown vs White.
Never forget
>>>22859433>Fuck, Spud (picrel + boi in pic I'm replying to) has drained so much of my cum, it's almost shameful. I don't even know how many times I've fapped to this little minx. I might actually, unironically have a crush on a fictional character lolz.>>>22860781>Sure, lol.>>>22860749>His blue eyes, soft brown locks, humungous knockers...holy fuck, I always get as hard as diamonds. So hard to resist just licking my lips and/or the screen. I'd absolutely love to cover his boytits, throat, and thighs in all sorts of yummy bite marks. Absolutely obsessed with this boi.>I can't stop fawning over him. I wanna bite his tits and shoulders so hard they draw blood, then lick his wounds for his precious iron-rich nectar. It's not even funny.>>inb4 GAEEEEE>>>22862574>>>22876046>Fuck, that would be hot as hell. Imagine holding my hand over his mouth, censoring his pitiful pleas for mercy while he squirms in my grip~ I'd LOVE to feel the flaming blush on his cheeks and the tears dripping from his eyes as I drag my blade all over his supple flesh, leaving marks that he'll remember as a sign of my dominance over him~ The psychological aspect will make him even more submissive to me~ The best of both worlds~these are things simon has said
>>17854639https://archived.moe/bant/thread/22852950
>>17854641No fucking way, is that thread real?
>>17854921whyd you delete your name from your trip simon?
>>17854639You have a disturbing ability to fake horny messages. You're evil and possessed, begone.
>>17854641The site archived.moe doesn't exist.
>>17855122Non-issue.
has simon ever heard of the streisand effect?
>>17855144...what?
Are you just making shit up to sound smart? I googled "Streisand effect" and literally nothing came up except for an obscure defunct science fiction blog from 2009.
>>17855150https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
"The Streisand effect is an unintended consequence of attempts to hide, remove, or censor information, where the effort instead increases public awareness of the information.
The term was coined in 2005 by Mike Masnick after Barbra Streisand attempted to suppress the publication of a photograph showing her clifftop residence in Malibu, taken to document coastal erosion in California, inadvertently drawing far greater attention to the previously obscure photograph."
>>17855170>wikibergNot reliable.
>>17855173https://spongebob.fandom.com/wiki/Squidina_Star
>>17855195.....
...........
WHAT?
>>17855170>>17855144pertinent, or should be
>>17855198The Streisand effect is not a fucking thing, it's some bullshit pseudoscience this gangstalker made up. Even if it was real, there are absolutely no examples of it in this thread.
>>17848850 (OP)For example, Gideon was born in what we now call Northwestern Italy, to a father and mother which were both ethnically Italian. This key result came from an examination of European burial sites Eric Baye and Dennis Cameron did, building off work from Langdon Eckhart.
>>17855213>gidyun wuz eyetalianThe given name Gideon is a Hebrew one, dunce
>>17855243That was a transliteration since the OT was written in Hebrew.
>>17855248Would've been closer to an earlier root of Giordano.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moroni,_Comoros
>>17855258The name of a city proves.......what?
>>17855196I am glad you accepted your defeat in argument and that you were no apostle at all ever and removed that false claim from your nametag. Repent of your sins.
>>17855276Mormonism is demonic.
Roman Catholicism is the only true denom.
see:
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/prophet-meets-pope-francis-vatican
>>17855282>demonicLike your posts?
>>17855285What posts? Mind being specific?
>>17855294Francis was a heretic, and he is burning as we speak. Amen.
>>17855290The ones where I confounded you and you had no argument to defend yourself, because you take after doctrines of devils and lie.
You cried and hid my posts because they were the truth and you just wanted to be another liar.
>>17855317Mormonism is Satanic heresy.
>>17855150Compulsive faggot liar.
Eat shit and die.
>>17855342How am I a compulsive liar? Give some examples, y'know, evidence.
>>17855341Hell with you then, false teacher.
>>17855876Mormongay sympathizer.
They're trying their absolute hardest to kill this thread, they even temporarily disabled the reply function. I must be doing something right with my historical facts.
Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever and ever. Amen.
>>17848850 (OP)bumped this crackpot "history" thread again award
>>17857114It's real history, fag.
completely delusional
>WE WUZ JEWS
Actually you wuz Philistines
>>17857134Philistines originated in Southeast Asia, actually.
>>17857139>competely delusionalyou need to stop being uppity little Amalek
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>>17857141Jews always were just one branch of the white family tree, and that fact is what they killed Jesus to suppress.
>>17857109>daily breadHere you go:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/ex/20?lang=eng
>>17857149Fuck off, Mormongay.
>>17857147They are the true root according to the Christian Bible
You are just fake branches that shouldn't say shit.
>>17857156We have been through this already... the Bible does not call jews the root. God is the root.
>>17857154No; I am not confounded by your ridiculous antics and enjoy being an annoyer to the adversary's pitiful excuse for a "kingdom".
>>17856658Maybe if you don't want to have to seethe eternally over the internet you should accept teachings from those of actual authority and stop being a whiner and heretic.
>>17857156The Book of Mormon says people from Africa were from ancient Israel and migrated across the oceans from Arabia to ancient Ethiopia. Supposedly Jesus did visit them (the other fold) after the resurrection. You should read about it in the Book of Mormon.
>>17857163Mormonism failed. They became just another splintered denomination which succumbed to the heresy of blindness, they have no discernment in the matter of salvation.
>>17857147https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/1-ne/8?lang=eng
passage related
>>17857170>failed>became just another splintered denomination>succumbed to the heresy of blindness>they have no discernment in the matter of salvationThe scriptures are what I defend, not any denomination.
FUCK OFF. STOP MAKING THIS THREAD ABOUT MORMONISM YOU FAGGOTS.
THIS IS A THREAD ABOUT BIBLICAL ARCHAEOLOGY AND HISTORY.
>>17857171The fruit of that tree is death, so says the Bible. Your heretical book of mormon gibberish has no truth.
>>17857170>Mormonism failedThe Book of Mormon is published in many languages worldwide, it is merely sealed by a veil of unbelief, with the word of man that it is from ancient USA preventing the real Lamanites (Africans) from taking it (a pure fruit in the vein of
>>17857171) and remaking their whole civilization.
>>17857178What tree? It is not gibberish, anything but - I actually read the thing so I know and I can tell you have limited comprehension or discernment.
>>17857177It is 100% on topic - "White" Israelites migrated to east Africa in around 600 BC and wrote their histories ultimately compiled in the Book of Mormon - and you are the one who is "Off Topic".
>>17857182>What tree?There is only one tree of God, and its fruit is death. Taste of that tree and die, and being dead live again by the spirit.
You know little but claim to have truth, dangerous is what you are.
>>17857189I have the Holy Ghost and you have doctrines of devils.
>>17857186Your Mormonism shit that has WASTED half of the thread's replies needs to go regardless.
>>17857194You are confounded in your own loss
>>17857196How much time do you have to badger people with your inane heretical sect?
>>17857193Perhaps the spirit was sewn into your flesh from the fall, but unless in Christ they are not made holy and redeemed by serving the Father's will.
>>17857197>badgeridgaf what you think you are loser
>>17857199You are illiterate, holy shit.
JIDF agents are hard at work, always...
>>17857205>Care to explain?I have explained sufficiently enough to illuminate the path back to salvation, you must walk it yourself.
>>17857209I am saved and you are full of mustard.
>>17857207>>178572092 losers peas in a pod
>>17857215How the fuck am I a loser?
>>17857212If you were saved then you would not be destroyed and your eternal life would be already secured, but since neither is the case for his people currently the good news must be disseminated for their salvation.
>>17857159Stop lying
Read the verse
Don't boast you grafted wild offshoot
>>17857220Reads like man-made theology to me; you have no solid ground.
>>17857219I know, it's current year + 10 and you still choose to be wrong.
>>17857221based and redpilled
>>17857225We have been through this already... Nowhere in the Bible are the jews called the root of that tree. They are a cultivated branch, nothing more or less, and damned doubly are they for none should know better than they.
>>17857225Do not call a one grafted for an evil thing- there is a reason you are CUT OFF FROM THE PRESENCE OF GOD because YOU DO THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL YOUR FATHER.
>>17857231>Salvation is of the Jews
>>17857236Yes, their branch bore the fruit which gives the entire tree salvation. "of the jews"
>>17857194>wastedyou mean BLESSED
>>17857236The Judea that wasn't scattered with the rest of Israel, not the Jews who persecuted the prophets and were confounded for 2000 years.
>>17857197>hereticalYou are the one that adds to the Book of Scripture and the Creed with additional commandments of man
>inaneHow do you figure? Scriptures inane? Washing away the false commands of man, somehow lesser than your own special brew of hearsay? Are you representing Pastor JimBob's KJV Club?
>>17857219Do you enjoy losing every argument in your own spam/flood thread?
>>17857258Yes because I am a big dummy doodoo head
>>17857227Many who have the light revealed to them turn away in horror because their love of the world and sin makes embracing salvation something they would rather die than do.
>>17857267Are you the one who said the Book of Mormon was failed? I suggest you unfold it for yourself - it is a glorious gift of the Lord to us men of the latter days.
>>17857269Having comprehended the path of salvation in the teachings of the Son, it has become plainly obvious that nothing of Joseph Smith can improve upon His plan.
>>17857275>nothing of Joseph Smith can improve upon His planJoseph Smith is not usurping anything - he doesn't alter the scriptures but holds them up by their own high truths to be better comprehended to all. He is not some innovator but a true restorer - and quite a delight to the reader of whatever scriptures he promulgated because they are given by calling of the savior himself, and are extremely bright lights of the hope of salvation for all mankind to see. It is the Gospel, the same as it was, only, more.
An example of an innovator would be some heretic like John Calvin, who hides as if he were tradition while usurping the Word of God. Joseph Smith elevates the Scriptures like no other since Jesus and Mohammed.
>>17857275>comprehended>improveNothing if you already comprehend the Gospel is new, but some finer details exposed that are only a positive good and no such thing as to negate the true teachings in any wise.
He prayed to God for wisdom after the Holy Ghost struck him with a verse in James about how God does not upbraid those who ask in earnest. He is not a false prophet.
>>17857275>teachings of the SonThe Book of Mormon is really from Jesus himself; it is his will that it be sealed up for these 2000 years and brought out just at the right time for us to indulge in its goodness.
>>17857278>>17857282>>17857287If mormonism were an illuminated path then it would not have failed to provide salvation for His people. But it has succumbed to the heresy of blindness, forsaking the discernment which leads his people to salvation in exchange for worldly acceptance.
>>17857295>it has succumbed to the heresy of blindnessHeresy explicitly is when it is imposed by a false church false authority &c on believers who want to be members; I cannot say if the mainline LDS church has done that; it is definitely set to be as with the other churches today, as if withered in unbelief in its own scriptures (though less than other sects for sure). They cannot gain a true testimony from God that it is from the Americas because that is nowhere in their scriptures; God only says it is true to the hearts of the believers, not the word of man; it is from Africa and sealed for today; if it hadn't had this commandment of man mistake it would not be so evidently true to a modern reader and on through the future.
Take the scriptures as advanced Gospel truths, not as a handbook for a cult like all the other traditions of man.
The Book of Mormon has really good Gospel doctrine. I recommend however to start with Joseph Smith's own revelations.
>>17857304There is only one sent by God for the task of providing salvation for his people, and his is the Son. All required was provided through and by him for the task.
>>17857310Jesus let his teachings sit in the appendix to the Hebrew bible for 2000 years only to show the world a greater unfolding when it had repented of enough iniquity to be worthy of greater edification - slowly but surely the testimony of the Book of Mormon planted like a bit of leaven only sealed for centuries in this case.
>>17857313The flowering of salvation in Christ reached its apex some centuries ago and the world has since fallen again into darkness and confusion. We await now the day when his people will have no choice but to hoist again their sword and mantel provided by the son to battle the doom which seeks ever to destroy them.
The Holy Ghost (Divine Presence) will give you a testimony in your heart that all the SCRIPTURES (not the writ of scribes around it) of the mainline LDS denomination (the "Triple Combination") are true. There are countless stumbling blocks for the believer to overcome however; I can say though that all I have seen I have resolved, and the scriptures have endured absolute rigor.
>>17857319What is added by Joseph Smith that the Son of God did not already provide in full?
>>17848850 (OP)>Debate me. I dare you.>NOOOOO NOT LIKE THATISHYGDDT on my /his/ board
>>17857329The OP raised the challenge that he could not rise to answer himself, but I have come armed for the task and none has ever defeated me.
>>17857326Things have happened since Jesus' time that piled up enough new problems (not that Jesus would be insufficient to overcome, but that some authoritative witness was required to declare with authority comparable to Paul, who was called of a vision separate to the apostolic order).
For instance, slavery being abolished was confirmed to be explicitly a positive good, where the Bible could not have said too much about that or it would have been censored by persecutors. It is the whole scheme of progressive revelation; as the evil in mankind is done away with, so humanity is able to advance in knowledge of salvation, where before Jesus there was the prophets and the Law for a guide.
>>17857335If you condemn the things of God you do lose authority even in ignorance, beware to transgress his decrees and constructions.
>>17857342If you require authority then look for it in Christ where God has vested all authority for the salvation of his people. So that by doing the will of the Father in the Son's name as his body, his people have full license to do unto the world all things righteous but especially that which ensures their eternal life.
This is the nature of the new covenant, and of salvation. Any who do not hold these truths are off the proverbial path.
>>17857362God is no respecter of persons; it is not a saying of "Lord Lord" but a doing of the works of a true believer. The Golden Rule is true wherever in the world you are born, and at any time before the Evangelists came by anyway. It is a fact of life and human existence; woe betide all hypocrites.
The Gospel opens up and unfolds many authoritative truths but does not claim to negate all other teachings; "Judge anything by its fruits".
>>17857369The laws given to the exiled to save them from destruction while divested of his authority are of a different purpose than those authorities given to them for their dominion in his name who have the law now as theirs to arbitrate in the Son's name.
>>17854639this thread is still up? let me remind yall of this
>>17857385>MarcionismThe Old Testament is just as inerrant as the New.
>>17857391then by all means remain in exile under the law given upon the mountain if you refuse to take a place in Christ
>>17857397If you can abrogate the Old testament, why cannot other false teachers abrogate the Gospel and supplant it by teachings and commandments of man? No. We as Christians are not guilty of what the Jews accuse us of. (You) are in manifest error.
Commandments of the Old testament are carried over to the New. Some of them are just not as important as others. Pork is still forbidden by the law; only, it is as a sin-against-the-self, and should not bar people from hearing the Gospel, which is why it is not excerpted in the epitome of dietary restrictions in Acts.
>>17857400It is not abrogated, it is fulfilled, served its purpose. But if you choose to remain under it and can in truth claim its protection (none can) then perhaps the judgement of death will not fall upon you.
>>17857397>under the law>in exileYou mean called and chosen people of God?
>>17857406>served its purpose, fulfilledThat does not delete the truth of the commandments; only the sacrifices are given positive holy factual meaning by Christ and thereby waxed old by his perfect gift of himself for our sins.
Why do you think God sent the Holy Koran if it weren't that so many had apostatized from the commandments of the Torah? They are 1:1 almost exactly the same and prove each other.
>>17857410The laws given to the exiles to keep them found deserving life were only meant to last until the restoration of his people to their authority. This is an important point that one must fully comprehend when faced with those jews who would have the world under their law.
>>17857414>God gives positively true commands and yet somehow takes them backWhy would a one who claims to follow the holy life shirk at the duties God reveals to us?
Here is an example: Is it no longer wrong to force someone to work 7 days a week?
>>17857417God has not taken anything back, and that is not as I have said. I have said as follows:
It is not abrogated, it is fulfilled, served its purpose. But if you choose to remain under it and can in truth claim its protection (none can) then perhaps the judgement of death will not fall upon you.
Congratulations, fucktards. You have COMPLETELY wasted this thread. This thread has gone to WASTE because of MORMONIGGER and his antics.
FUCK YOU.
>>17857423Paul: "We establish the Law"
pseuds: "We establish the Law is fulfilled and abrogate it without calling it abrogation"
>>17857424>CongratulationsThank you.
>>17857427If you wish to deceive then you must of course confuse them with regard to the purpose for the law provided to the exiles upon the mountain. But then you have placed yourself into a bind with no escape, because the jews too await their release from that law, and their restoration to the station as its arbiters and authors.
>>17857438>Jews authored the lawGod authored it via the prophet Moses.
>>17857440I did not claim that the jews authored it, it was provided to the exiles to keep them found deserving life while they remain divested of all God's authority.
>>17857444>it was provided to the exiles to keep them found deserving life while they remain divested of all God's authority.It was more a constructive gift to the world that man be edified; the Gospel requiring man to have surpassed much of his old iniquity to be faithfully received..
Also:
>I did not claim that the jews authored itI don't mean to annoy, that was just how I read your post.
>>17857447I see no reason why the exiles should not regard as a gift the law provided to them to keep them found deserving life while divested of all God's authority. That is the nature of the old covenant and without which the remembrance of the God of gods would not have endured to be reborn.
>>17857466https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/abr/1?lang=eng
>>17857473>mormon versesirrelevant and unnecessary
Even if there is truth in them, they are not the truth which gives his people salvation.
>>17857476>unnecessaryBut you said
>The flowering of salvation in Christ reached its apex some centuries ago and the world has since fallen again into darkness and confusion.So what is it that you have against God's will that there be a true restoration?
Not unlike the Jew who says
>The flowering of salvation in the Law reached its apex some centuries ago and the world has since fallen again into darkness and confusion.
And yet rejects the Savior.
>>17857476>Abraham>irrelevantSo you think humanity had no worth until Jesus came along, and none of the holy men before his days overcame iniquity and sin?
>I have a work for thee, Moses, my son; and thou art in the similitude of mine Only Begotten; and mine Only Begotten is and shall be the Savior, for he is full of grace and truth; but there is no God beside me, and all things are present with me, for I know them all.
>>17857479The restoration is blood and death, rivers of blood and great sorrow. The scourging and cleaving, the righteous will have no choice in the matter but to execute it for their salvation. Glory glory haleluya, the day of the Lord has come and all is justified in his name to secure our eternal life.
>>17857494Creative destruction
>>17848852>icy blonde eyesWhat does that mean exactly?
>>17857510>U made uh singul error wich u kurrekted 2 rupliaes laytur, DeRE4 U ARE RONG UR ARGUYUMENUT IS INVALID SWETTY!I meant BLUE, dumbass. I wasn't paying attention near the end of writing that comment.
>>17857558it was an earnest question
Also where is the evidence?
>Platinum blondeFunny way to read Revelation
>Milky whiteAs snow, per the Bible
But I don't know where you get
>Icy blonde eyesWhat does that mean btw?
>>17857561I meant to type BLUE, you fucking ignoramus. That's what I meant.
>>17848907bro ur internet is potato Have you tried turning it off and on again??
THE BOOK OF MORMON went to the moon in 1972 (when this pic was taken - - of AFRICA and the holy land)
>>17857388Fake ass shit. I don't write like that, those aren't my idiosyncracies or sentence structures.
>>17857587Whoa that is true
>>17854236HOLY SHIT