Thread 17935932

Could someone please explain to me logically how THE FUCK did the entire world end up obsessed with this uttterly irrelevant piece of land that shouldn't be of any importance to anyone outside of the Levant?

>Inb4 muh Joos
No, explain logically how they did it then.

>Explain
>N-no not that answer

>>17935935
You're gonna say muh Joos, explain HOW they did it, step by step.

>>17935932 (OP)
Well it was the Jews and their stories which became Christian stories and Muslim fanfiction of course.
But to be fair I don’t think people more East of that region really care about it like China, India, Japan, etc

>>17935932 (OP)
its a cult, thats it, thats the reason

>>17935941
Indians are absolutely obsessed with Israel though, because they like that they kill Muslims.

>>17935944
I said how, not why.

>>17935946
>absolutely obsessed
As much or more than they are with shunning toilets or upholding a caste system? I think you are over generalizing large populations here

>>17935932 (OP)
>explain
it is a mystery

>>17935932 (OP)
muslims are perpetually butthurt about losing to Jews, who they consider their inferiors
libtards hate them because they see Jews as white and therefore evil

>>17935932 (OP)
No Jews, No News.

>>17935989
in the US at least I can understand people not giving a shit about Sudan and fixating on Israel because we are supporting Israel directly, and not really involved at all in Sudan. I also get it for people living in the middle east, since other muslims are naturally predisposed to be sympathetic to the Palestinians in that conflict (not in any other way though). But I don't get why its the same for Europe, latin america, and Asia.

>>17935932 (OP)
christianity, islam, and judaism are all offshoots of hebrewism and the fucking faggots won't stop dragging the rest of the world in their retarded squabbles

>>17935989
Oh shut up would you?

>>17935932 (OP)
The Soviet Union created it in the 1940s by financing Jewish terrorists and helping send Russian Jews there
It's controversial because it's supposed to be the promised kingdom in the Christian religion that Jews invented. But also it's committing genocide against the locals. And it's captured the American government through foreign lobbyists. And their intelligence agency has a reputation for committing extrajudicial assassinations

>>17935932 (OP)
This is the birthplace of sedentarism and farming, the place where humans ceased to be animals and became masters of nature.

It is much more important than whatever irrelevant shithole you happen to live in OP.

>>17935932 (OP)
I'll give you a solid answer:
IT'S NOT

Only the Hebrews were obsessed with it because that's where Abraham was told to stay firm and wait for the Messiah
After the Destruction of the Temple, it was pretty much gone and done

Christianity sees Israel as the birth place of Jesus, but it is not necessary for the faith
It was so completely irrelevant that the Patiarch of the East is in Antioch rather than Judea
And the Pope is in Rome where Peter is buried

Israel was NEVER relevant well until the Crusades came. It portrayed itself as a Holy War to retake the Holy Land, but, in reality, it was a push against the Islamic horde that they repainted as a Holy War for propaganda reasons

After the Crusades, it was never relevant against until the USA made it relevant
They handed it over to the Jews because they believed that they were fulfilling some sort of divine prophecy. It was all evangelistic and protestant nonsense

>why
Pic related. All the pink is Pinks who largely (usually the majority) believe in an Abrahamic religion. Only the yellow area is not derived from Abraham. Even the most populous yellow country is mad at Muslims so loves Israel.

>>17935932 (OP)
Its creation and continued existence serves a twofold purpose.
1: Break apart and keep apart the Levantine Arabs into small, weak, and easily controlled vassal states for the West to exploit.
2: Allow Western Europe (who were still just as anti-semetic as they had always been before WW2) a way to "finish" the Holocaust and liquidate their Jewish populations in a way that was PR friendly for the Liberals by shipping them all off to the Levant.

>>17936028
literally every single sentence here is wrong, impressive

>>17936055
>Muh Western Europe
Except in the 1940s it was the Russians that backed Israel's existence and the British that fought against it

>>17936055
Levantine Arabs didn't require Israel to be effeminate dancing boys manipulated by their betters

>>17936028
A. It was Czechoslovakia which directly supported Israel against the arabs, not the USSR
B. France offered more support than the communists did so even if your original point was correct it wouldn't matter

>>17936077
>Russia used one of their backdoor proxies, this is meant to prove something
I didn't mention France, and everyone knows France is run by Jews. Both France and Russia are responsible for creating Israel

>>17936073
Go fuck yourself faggot, our history trumps yours.

>>17936083
No, I don't think that it does. This is wewuzzery.

Zionism is an Eastern European apocalyptic cult. They're kind of like Mormons with nukes. They've hijacked the government of the last superpower to do their evil will, and have successfully murdered millions over the past 80 years in pursuit of their bible larping. The basic thing you have to reject is "we are the old testament Israelites" because they have virtually no connection with them. It's a 19th century mind virus that is going to be with us for a while.

>>17936101
the only one with a mind virus is you. You need to stop going to /pol/, its rotted your brain.

>>17936107
>argument not found

>>17936101
>They're kind of like Mormons with nukes
Good description

>>17936083
Can't be that glorious if your co-ethnics feel compelled to dynamite it whenever possible kek

>>17936108
well first of all Israel has not "murdered millions" that is absolute nonsense, and you yourself provide no argument for your assertion of the bizarre fringe belief that modern Jews have "virtuall no connection" with ancient Jews.

Additionally saying Israel is enacting an "evil will" without further explanation is a bad faith argument. They also haven't hijacked the US government. Are you saying Trump can't decide his own foreign policy? Because that is obviously wrong.

>>17936117
FYI, the wanton destruction turned out to just be done to a few things as part of their iconoclasm propoganda to look EPIC on tiktok to get dumb zoomer muslims to leave their country and join them. In reality very few artifacts were destroyed, though sadly a vast amount were looted and sold as a funding stream for ISIS.

>>17936095
We're literally the genetic descendants of the people who lived in this exact same region 1000s of years ago, only ones "we wuzzing" here are the retarded trailer trash hicks like yourself trying to claim our glorious past.
>>17936117
>fund retarded islamists from central asia to destabilize secular govs in the region
>retard islamists go into overdrive and start murdering minorities and destroying world heritage sites
>profit from the destruction by accepting gajillions of angry migrants into your countries
>but hey
>at least Israel is safe now

>>17936101
They're probably vaguely related to the group that wrote the Bible, but it doesn't matter. They're all Slavjeets now. Maybe they were always Slavjeets

>>17936132
You don't need any funding to make arabs slaughter each other

See: Syria

>>17936132
>we

>>17936132
ISIS fought against the shia muslims in Iraq who are the majority there. Their main ideology was that the sunni muslims in Iraq and Syria ought to be one people. It was a home grown movement of Iraqi sunni arabs who were being oppressed by the shia majority. You really just don't have any idea at all what you're talking about, do you?

>>17936136
So are you disingenuous or just stupid? Do I need to explain how H-dawg herself ackowleges the fact that they were allied with Al Qaeda in the Syrian civil war?

>>17936143
who's paying arabs to slaughter alawite arabs now

>>17936144
or bedouins and druze to slaughter each other

>>17936140
>this explaination spoonfed to me by the US state department is def the truth
ISIS was entirely a western psyop designed to plunge the region into sectarian chaos. US's main allies in the region (other than Israel ofc) were Turkey and the Gulf States which allowed islamists to come the world through Turkey with funding from Qatar and the Saudis so they could destroy Iraq and Syria. Is it any wonder ISIS only slaughtered other arabs and never once attacked Israel?

>>17935946
Tbh it is true. India subcontinent have 40% muslim. Also indian hate for muslim isn't unjustified. I hate when they target missionary who provide education to lower caste and tribe. Like dude you treat them like sub humans, don't let them study ( I'm old times shudra and outcast (tribal) weren't allowed to study vedas, upnashid, and any religious text, philosophy remember religious knowledge determine your superiority).

>>17936144
>>17936150
Same people. Jewlani is a US asset you dipshit, learn to read. Nigga went from the most wanted jihadi terrorists list to le heckin holesum freedom fighter in a suit real damn fast dontcha think?

>>17936083
>>17936132
>Our history

>>17936152
oh right, I forgot, the only people in the world with agency are the Jews. Everyone else is just an NPC. Thanks for reminding me that its their world and everyone else is just living in it.

This is just such a deranged conspiracy theory that puts jews on an absurdly high pedestal as the puppet masters of the entire world at all times.

>>17936155
Israel was very displeased with this, how do you fit that into your conspiracy theory that everything in the world that happens is at all times part of their plan?

>>17936135
>They're all Slavjeets now. Maybe they were always Slavjeets

Jews aren't Slavic, they're German/Western Euros. The whole reason they immigrated to Poland was for religious and cultural freedom; Jews could be Jews in Poland and not forced to assimilate as in Western Europe.

>>17936155
Yes, yes, arabs have no agency, wherever I am I must decapitate my fellow arabs (becoz israel sed so) etc etc

>>17936167
I live in Lebanon
>>17936170
I'm sorry how dumb are you? You think Jews are omnipotent enough to purposefully try to "brown" the west through a mass propaganda campaign and waves of migrants but it's a huuuge stretch to say that they fuck over the entire MENA region by empowering sectarian islamists? You know Israel funded Hamas right? They've literally been caught arming actual ISIS militants in the Gaza strip as a counterbalance against the Hamas militants they funded.
>>17936172
I fit it into my viewpoint by not taking everything country leaders say at face value you dipshit, why the fuck wouldn't Bibi be happy about Iran's landborder to Hezbollah being cut off? Jewlani has already brought up normalization with Israel without taking back the Golan Heights.
>>17936175
Money talks my friend, our agency was in Saddam, Hafez, Gaddafi, Nasser, etcetera. Western blood money has destroyed the prosperous countries there and all that is left are islamist dogs who slaughter everyone but the Jews.

>>17936132
>The Soviet Union created it in the 1940s by financing Jewish terrorists and helping send Russian Jews there
That's not really accurate. Yes and no. I'm not aware of any financing, and the Soviets didn't let Russian Jews leave, they organized and set up the draining of 300,000 Jews from Eastern Europe (most of them Poles and Romanians, smaller amounts from the other countries) to Israel. This was the biggest thing they did to help Israel directly at the start, along with diplomatic support. The partition of the territory was supported by the Soviet Union and the United States.

One of the reasons for this is that they saw the Jews as anti-British, and were suspicious of pan-Arabism at this time because they thought it was a British thing. And they wanted to solve a problem where there were these Jews sitting around in camps in Eastern Europe. Most of them had their property taken from them during the war by fascist governments, and they didn't want to go around kicking Poles out of their apartments and giving them back to their former Jewish owners. It would've been a big mess. Also there were still a lot of antisemites in Eastern Europe.

But it's a historical irony if that it was more of a lefty cause then. If you were a tankie in '48, you probably would've been militantly pro-Israel.

>>17936077
>A. It was Czechoslovakia which directly supported Israel against the arabs, not the USSR
That's true, but the USSR knew what was going on, and could've intervened to stop Czechoslovakia, and didn't do so. The Soviet government was very sensitive about it. They thought it would cause a big uproar and make them look bad, and were also well aware of "Judeo-Bolshevik theories" and didn't want to be directly linked to any arms sales. It'd be like "oh Jesus there's Karl Marx and the Jew teaming up to destroy the world again..."

>B. France offered more support than the communists did so even if your original point was correct it wouldn't matter
In the 50s/60s.

>>17936190
>our agency was in incompetent authoritarians that got humiliated by sunburned polish expats
grim 2bh

>>17935932 (OP)
>2 of the words largest religions directly cite this area as their origin and holy land
Another with over a billion followers considers it their #3 holy place
I have no idea why so many people care about it

>>17936190
>I live in Lebanon ... why the fuck wouldn't Bibi be happy about Iran's landborder to Hezbollah being cut off?
I'm sure he loves it, but the Israelis have been pushing this line to the Americans about Sharaa being Al Qaeda and that he can't be trusted. The U.S. like Sharaa, but Israel doesn't like the idea of a unified Syria with the Sunni Arabs there united behind the government because they might get organized. They don't like the idea of the Turks getting up to their border either. They would prefer Syria to be more like your country with its divided confessional system. They like the idea of the Syrian Druze having autonomy so they can get in there and influence the Druze.

>>17936198
You'd be incompetant too if your enemy had the funding of the entire western world behind them.
>>17936201
Do you not see how a sunni extremist in power kind of helps when it comes to wanting to divide Syria along sectarian lines? During the rule of Assad, the Syrian Druze did not want to be allied with Israel. Yet as soon as Mr. Headchopper in chief came to power we got picrel. Stop being so naiive and taking things said by politicians at face value, it's clear to see that the US and Israel are on the same side here. By empowering Sharaa, Israel can have an excuse to carve up Syria into a Druzistan and a Kurdistan while Jewlani bends over and takes.

>>17936210
I think the Americans and Israelis are working at cross purposes, and I think the Israelis are essentially opportunistic. They sense an opportunity now with the minorities because Sharaa is weak (natural given that he came to power only a few months ago in a devastated war-torn country) and figure the Druze (and maybe the Kurds, but seems less likely to me) will flock to Israel for protection from the headchoppers. But I don't think the Israelis want a strong, empowered Sharaa with most Syrians backing him up and getting supplied with Turkish weapons to rebuild the army.

>>17936214
That was never the intention and if you thought for a second that America ever actually wanted that then you're not being at all realistic. The plan was always to oust Assad with an incompetant islamist which would give Israel the carte blanche to carve up the region to make their neighbors even weaker. Turkey won't do shit, Erdogan just likes hearing himself talk.

>>17936190
>I live in Lebanon
It's amazing how accurate this meme is

>>17936219
Except for the fact that I'm a man and Greek Orthodox. Of course a Lebanese person would be invested in the region, Syrians are our brothers and the geopolitical ramifications of the Syrian civil war effect us too.

>>17936226
You guys are on the (head)chopping block next right

>>17936232
Yes, this is why we support Hezbollah. Shia islamists are retarded but not genocidal like sunni ones, also they actually attack Israel so that's a plus. Anyway I've gotta go to work now, ciao.

>>17936218
>The plan was always to oust Assad with an incompetant islamist
>Implying Assad was ever competent

It's amazing how Axis of Resistards seethe over Sunni Arabs not supporting Iran and start coping by claiming they all must secretly be Zionists

Regular reminder that American Evangelical churches fanatical support Israel, because they believe that Israel needs to exist so it can be destroyed by the antichrist at the start of the apocalypse.

>>17935932 (OP)
Its actually been something obsessed over for the entire contiguous period of recorded history, Anon. Jewish/Muslim holy lands, later Christian holy lands, part of the Eastern Roman Empire for more than a Century, with brief instances of being Persian. Later part of the Christian Crusader state of Antioch, then the Ottoman Empire, and finally used by the European powers to park all of the Joos displaced in the World Wars, largely to get them out of the West without a pogrom. The people involved (correctly) identified that having a separate in-group in your in-group is not good for anyone involved, but we couldn't send them back to Germany and Russia from whence they had been displaced, so Israel was the compromise play.

It also has the distinct advantage of automatically making sure in advance that the Arab world never unifies. Half of them rely on doing business with the West for their lives and livelihoods and the other half can't stop seething and bitching about the existence of Israel ever.

the major three abrahamic religions of the world have pretty much all their holy sites there, often at the same places.
go figure why people have fought over it for millenia.

>>17936219
>Layla
roflmao

>>17936292
The Middle East is like a circular firing squad of people calling each other secret Jews

>>17936292
3 biggest sunni powers of the region
>GCC, staunch western allies
>Turkey, literal NATO member
>Egypt, western puppet
Not a stretch to call those govs zionist

>>17935932 (OP)
>historical homeland of the Jews
>birth and death place of Jesus Christ
>where Muhammad ascended to the heavens and saw the 72-virgin afterlife for the first time
>one of the major gateways to the Middle East and Western Asia

>>17935946

The entire cultural basis for modern India's existence is nonstop malding at the British, Pakistan, and toilets

>>17936055
>Break apart and keep apart the Levantine Arabs into small, weak, and easily controlled vassal states for the West to exploit.

Nigger, the Arabian Peninsula was basically nothing but nomadic tribesman killing the Ottomans and each other in blood feuds for centuries before the Balfour Declaration. There hasn't been a unified Arab state since the Abbasid Caliphate.

>Allow Western Europe (who were still just as anti-semetic as they had always been before WW2) a way to "finish" the Holocaust and liquidate their Jewish populations in a way that was PR friendly for the Liberals by shipping them all off to the Levant.

The overwhelming majority of Israeli Jews are of Arab or Russian/Ukrainian/Polish descent. Also Holocaust survivors have historically been regarded in Israeli society as parasites who are only fit to be sweeping the floors. It's honestly kinda fucking sad.

>>17936314
>The entire cultural basis for modern India's existence is nonstop malding at the British, Pakistan, and toilets
Which is funny because Britan was involved in the creation of Israel. If they're mad about Britain for colonizing their country, they should see Israel as a colonization project in the Levant.

>>17936308
Meanwhile Iran has thrown their lot in with Russia and China

>>17936328
>If they're mad about Britain for colonizing their country, they should see Israel as a colonization project in the Levant.
But that's already a mainstream anti-Zionist position

>>17936328
Hindu seethe about the muzzies overpowers any consideration of Israel's origins and Britain's role in it.

>>17936226
>Lebanese
>Orthocuck
grim

>>17935932 (OP)
>Irrelevant
It's incredibly important to three of the worlds largest religions for one

>>17936336
Indeed, the enemy of my enemy is my friend after all.

>>17936292
I don't know which ''Sunni Arabs'' you're talking about, but yeah the gulf monkeys are western puppets. The thing is that the mainstream Muslim opinion has always been that they should be overthrown, even amongst moderate groups like the MB. In the eyes of most Muslims these guys are as Muslim as iran and its terrorist proxies are, so basically not at all

>>17936398
>Mainstream Muslim opinion
You mean diaspora Dawahbros
>Moderate Groups
>Muslim Brotherhood
lmao

>>17936417
>You mean diaspora Dawahbros
I mean muslims
>>Moderate Groups
>>Muslim Brotherhood
Yes

>>17935932 (OP)
God or something

>>17936398
>iran and its terrorist proxies
A sunni accusing anybody of being a terrorist is hilarious. Also that meme you copied only works for sunnis because shia actually fight Israel.

>>17936495
>A sunni accusing anybody of being a terrorist is hilarious.
The United States of Israel is the biggest terrorist actor in the world, with Iran coming in a close second. So-called ''extremists'' simply gave these dogs a taste of their own medicine.
>Also that meme you copied only works for sunnis because shia actually fight Israel.
Lol, lmao even. Hezbollah will be disarmed, assad is gone, iran had its whole nuclear program blown up.
The mujahidin have continued to operate under extreme pressure from the west for decades yet iran's entire axis got destroyed in less than 2 years. Even hamas which is just a nationalist movement that brands itself Islamic still put up more resistance than any of those useless faggots combined

>>17935932 (OP)
> Could someone please explain to me logically how THE FUCK did the entire world end up obsessed with this uttterly irrelevant piece of land
Paliwood stepped up it’s propaganda

>>17936125
>Israel has not "murdered millions"
If I coerce and trick my retarded friend into murder, that's still on me.

>bizarre fringe belief
>I am a magical pixie! It's just a bizarre fringe assertion from no evidence to say any different!

>haven't hijacked the US government... Trump... decide his own foreign policy
lol, lmao even

The eye opener for me was realizing /pol/ was really mostly brown people because it seemed hard to explain how self-identified wignats should suddenly be so concerned with the well-being of brown people in the West Bank.

>>17936298
I always see people here say this, but I asked a friend of mine who is a very serious evangelical that is strongly pro israel, and she said that was not correct and had not heard of this theory. She and other members of her church support israel because they think it has the right to defend itself from its neighbors who have always refused to just let the jewish people live in peace.

>>17936754
Is this supposed to be an argument?

>>17935938
The Israel lobby is the PC version of the "Da Joos"
Here, it's not overly antisemitic
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1ox-DzSF7Tg
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=elQGTyqx2x8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gd1zgizFujc

>>17937022
>GDF
Sorry I'm not giving that Arab twink ad revenue

>>17935932 (OP)
>small country in between multiple major powers, constantly the site of wars/proxy wars between them
Canaan was the ancient world's equivalent of Belgium

>>17936765
It's much more about giving Jews their karmic reward for creating leftism and flooding the West with browns

>>17935932 (OP)
it is one of the most important logistical positions on the planet

>>17936997
This is what we in the industry call "lying" you daft fucking cunt.

>>17937027
>he doesn't use adblock

>>17937145
meds

>>17936125
>They also haven't hijacked the US government. Are you saying Trump can't decide his own foreign policy? Because that is obviously wrong.
Why are you on 4chan?
Are you a literal Israeli or just blind to the fact that 500 out 505 US congressmen take money from the Israel lobby which is illegally not registered as a foreign lobby and the US president is blackmailed from a Mossad pedo ring? This stuff is widely known.
>>17935932 (OP)
Europeans and Arabs converted to the Jewish offshoot religions because it appeals more to fearful hateful wretches who want their neighbors to go to hell more than Greek philosophy ever could despite being far superior and easily debunking anything from the desert manuals before they were even created.

Jews have been obsessed with it for thousands of years. In the late 19th century and early 20th century some Zionist Jews managed to get deep hooks into British leadership, especially Winston Churchill, who owed millions of pounds in debts that the Rothschilds bought up and covered for him. The Rothschilds were majors sponsors of the Zionist project in Palestine, and so once Britain was in a position to do something about Palestine Churchill all but handed it to the Jews.

Now, early on a lot of the land the Rothschilds and others had acquired in Palestine was done so legally, bought from landlords looking to sell, and the Rothschilds had essentially bottomless pockets so they'd offer whatever price necessary to buy up more land in Palestine.

But then the Jewish settlers began arriving, and difficulties started between the Arabs and the Jewish communities there. The usual reasons. Nobody likes having Jews for neighbors, was true thousands of years ago, and is true now. The Jews were zealots going all-in on the creation of a new Jewish state, the Arabs didn't like all these new Jewish settlements springing up around them, boxing them in, in some cases, so that they'd be de facto forced to live in a Jewish enclave, or else move from land they had lived on for generations out of memory. Jews showing up to buy the land off them didn't improve matters, it made them stubbornly dig in, and the Jews also became angry because they wanted a wholly contiguous territory for New Israel, not this patchwork of landholdings.

Luckily for the Jews, after WW2 Britain was was again in a position to do something and started kicking around an official partition of the Palestinian territory into two states: one Jewish, one Muslim. The Jews were thrilled to have an officially recognized state that was more contiguous than what they currently held, even if they did have to share half the territory. That was a problem they could tackle later.

>>17937616
So the jews were willing to setlle, but the Arabs, hell no. They were already upset about Jews effectively breaking up long-standing Arab settlements even if it was through legal land deals, and were whipped up into a fervor by pan-arabic nationalism sweeping through the mideast.

For the Arabs in Palestine, and the Arab League that was rallying them, the UN's proposal was unacceptable because they saw it as robbing Arabs of their ancestral lands. So rather than continue negotiating, the Arab League fomented war between the Palestinian Arabs and the Jewish settlers, and this went very badly for the Arabs. Again and again this would play out, with Palestinians losing more and more territory each time.

The cause of the Palestinians became a sticking point for the Arab and wider Muslim world, and the USA's staunch support of Israel became a diplomatic issue between the west's greatest power and the Muslim world, in a region that was critical to international commerce and industry due to its oil fields and the Suez Canal. Effectively, Zionism and its influence in Britain, and later United States, had driven a wedge between the US / NATO and the entire Mideast, which spawned numerous other conflicts of interest.

>>17937540
>This stuff is widely known.
And yet you fail to provide a shred of ecidence.

>>17937616
Didn't the Zionists use terrorist groups to attack Palestinians who refused to leave? I also read something about major Zionist bankers financing these groups' arms purchases for supposedly "self-defense."

>>17937685
Yes, when the landowners refused to sell they would use intimidation and violence to try and drive them out. This occurred after the Jews had already bought up a lot of land, and wanted to stitch their isolated parcels into a larger enclave, but smaller Arab landholders would refuse to sell, even after being surrounded by Jewish communities. So the Jews would make life as unpleasant for those Arabs as possible, until they either agreed to sell or simply abandoned the land. Things escalated from there as you can imagine. Arabs fought back, so Jews became even nastier, and that got the Arab League involved turning armed gangs into sizable militias, and the Jews panicked and got the British to intervene.

>>17935932 (OP)
>>Inb4 muh Joos
literally what other answer could be given that would satisfy you ?
you are correct, how can a insanely small country demand so much global attention and be so divisive ?
it is almost as if that small country has a insane amount of influence on the governments of more powerful nations.
it is almost as if mossad have agents in possession of compromising material on powerful people.
it almost as if the US government blatantly strangled one of these agents years ago whilst he was in prison and refuses to aknowledge it at all.

>>17937685
yep.
pretty much what any group with power has done to get people to leave, if you cant buy them out you beat them out legally.

>>17936997
>I asked a friend of mine who is a very serious evangelical that is strongly pro israel, and she said that was not correct and had not heard of this theory.
Yeah I agree. I know some Evangelicals who ride with Israel, and they can believe Israel is part of God's plan in some general way in the same way that Trump getting elected president again is because God intervened and made it happen, but it's more like they essentially Israel is the land given to the Jews by God in the Bible, and they're on our team, and it's kind of a miracle and inspiring. They're people like this:
https://youtu.be/sEZDuMGp3WY

That may have been a thing at various times with certain dispensationalist writers from the 70s like Hal Lindsey where the Jews will have a spiritual awakening and convert to Christianity during the countdown to Armageddon. You can find that stuff if you go looking for it.

Israel also feels comfy to them. It's like, why did Israel win the war in 1948? It's because God made it happen, really. He doesn't make things happen for no reason....

There was even an Exodus. The Jews suffered and said "let my people go" and there they went. There was a movie about it. These are simple people, the common clay. You know, morons.

>>17937817
Great analogy.
Right up to what the Jews did after they were rescued
Perfect reenactment, if I say so myself

Soon, his wrath shall come once more

>>17936997
The whole "God blesses those who bless Israel" is pretty standard Evangelical stuff. Some of them even go over there to work for free. It's pretty wild.

https://youtu.be/r9hXN2VCQr0?si=ZLs1wwwsXvdcRXGv

>>17936077
> A. It was Czechoslovakia which directly supported Israel against the arabs, not the USSR
After February 1948 Czechoslovakia was a Soviet vassal. It could definitely nothing foreign policy-wise without Kremlin approval.

Prophecy

His really just is int and pol mixed together.

>>17936038
>Sedentarism
Hunter Gatherers began to form semi permanent seasonal settlements long before agriculture as a means of storing materials for later use without having to carry it around.
>Farming
Independently invented across the planet at different times. It was the birthplace for MENA, sure. Not for all of humanity.

>>17938012
Which one?

>>17936314
>Nigger, the Arabian Peninsula was basically nothing but nomadic tribesman killing the Ottomans and each other in blood feuds for centuries before the Balfour Declaration. There hasn't been a unified Arab state since the Abbasid Caliphate.
Who the fuck said anything about the Gulf Arabs? Do you even know what the Levant is or are you just that geographically illiterate? The Levant has been unified under one empire or another for basically all of existence.

>>17935932 (OP)
At its core you have to remember that people hate living in poor, corrupt, backward autocracies. Conversely people are stupid and easy to distract. So you’ve got this small, irrelevant chunk of land that went to someone other than an Arab/Muslim population as part of the breakup of the Ottoman Empire. It became a very useful tool for various regional strongmen to jingle at their populations as a distraction. It keeps the religious crazies focused on something. It keeps the ethnic nationalist crazies focused on something. It keeps the reform minded bleeding heart liberals focused on something. It’s the perfect distraction. So perfect that they’ve used it for decades.

>>17937650
Literally from the AIPAC website Schlomo

>>17935932 (OP)
Most of the world doesn't give a single shit. Asia, central, and south America, half of Africa all give zero fucks. It's North America, Muslim Africa, and Europe.

The main reason why israel/palestine is so relevant is because to most people it's a very simple conflict with a clear victim and oppressor - and western countries give billions of dollars to those they consider the oppressor
that's it. other conflicts like stuff in africa and russia/ukraine seem too complicated or like worthless infighting, so people are less likely to be interested

>>17935932 (OP)
Because the Israel/Palestine conflict is just one theatre of the much broader Middle Eastern Cold War between the Western aligned Sunni states and Israel, and the Russo-Chinese aligned Iranian 'Axis of Resistance'. There are simply way too many foreign actors who have stakes in the fate of the Middle East for it to end quietly, and the result is arguably the world's most intractable border dispute.

>>17936101
>The basic thing you have to reject is "we are the old testament Israelites" because they have virtually no connection with them
What about the Mizrahi (Middle Eastern) Jews?

>>17938349
It's also a perfect recycling program for US ordinance that would otherwise sit on a shelf in a warehouse or depot somewhere gathering dust until it had to be scrapped. Arms industry gets more contracts to replace ordinance donated to Israel, congressmen with fingers in the pie get richer spending US taxpayer money on stockpile replacement, Israel gets weapons to continue the Zionist project, USA gets to expand its influence in the Mideast by being the one theoretically holding the leash on the rabid dog that is Israel.

>>17938473
Zionism would've gotten nowhere without Arab incompetence in war. Most Muslim leaders don't seem to actually care about the conflict at all and simply use it as a political tool. Hence their castigation of Israel and its supporters, yet their refusal to be directly involved or to even take Palestinian refugees. They "care" only up to the point it requires some tangible form of support. Palestine has received more aid from the West, the countries financing its destruction, than it has from its Muslim "brothers".

Every now and then, though, you get a zealot for a leader in one of those countries who actually takes the pro-Palestine rhetoric seriously and he leads his people in a doomed war against the oppressors. I say doomed because Arabs are simply not cut out for modern war. There's a host of reasons for this, but it adds up to failed military campaigns that only end up making Israel stronger and giving them more territory. A result of Almost 80 years of war against Israel by Arab states is Israel having more land, a bigger army, and stronger economy than it did 80 years ago. At this rate, Arabs will usher in the completion of the Zionist project if nobody else lifts a finger.

>>17938483
Midwit take. Iran was able to spread its cancer throughout the region as long as they were fighting alongside the jews against the mujahideen, the moment they turned on their master their entire ''axis'' was annihilated, just further proving they were immediately thrown away like a used cumrag once they stopped being useful which is the fate of all useful idiots of globohomo.

>>17938492
All correct. Plus it’s an acceptable method of field testing new weapons systems. After all ‘we bombed a random country because we wanted to see how well the bombs worked’ isn’t nearly as easy to excuse as ‘Israel does a thing.’ At least within the context of it produces the same product testing data without looking like all you’re doing is killing people for product testing data.

>>17936040
What's up with all these Czech atheists?

It's all Britain's fault.
They wanted to cut up the ottoman Empire and we ended with a bazillion ME wars because of it.

>>17938797
CZE is the flesh bowl. We had so much stuff happen here that no single view of the world makes sense anymore. Most people are ietsists, psychological naturalists or just vague agnostics who focus on everyday humanism.

A lot of us are gnostic antitheists, but since no one cares about that shit it's not relevant at all.

A lot of cultural christfagging though. And a thick connection with Israel makes the topic at hand very... uh... topical in CZE.

But consider this: CZE is the only culture (afaik) where people converted FROM Judaism to the vague CZE approach to life. Judaism is not even considered aspirational around here, just another Abrahamic weirdness. Just another wave of BS washing over us, no biggie.

>>17938834
Every non-Turk in the Ottoman Empire wanted to cut up the Ottoman Empire.

>>17938626
>just further proving they were immediately thrown away like a used cumrag once they stopped being useful which is the fate of all useful idiots of globohomo
So... too many foreign actors who have stakes in it? Fucking moron

>>17938354
There's a qualification here. AIPAC picks fights it knows it can win (often incumbents) so it can market that sort of propaganda to other politicians that supporting Israel is "good politics." They do press their agenda very hard and back a lot of politicians who win, but they're not undefeatable and can lose races.

>>17938492
>>17938631
Yep. People don't really grasp how integrated the U.S. defense industry is with Israel. Not the military, it's the industry. A lot of American military hardware also has Israeli-manufactured components in them. A mechanical system or part of what goes into a sensor. A lot of stuff that people don't pay attention to. Missile defense is obviously a big one.

>>17936069
Makes sense, Palestine was a British mandate

>>17936101
In fairness the religion “defence” almost makes sense. I don’t know any other way to justify bombing kids other than being called George Bush

>>17938487
Mizrahi jews are pushed out by the Ashkenazim. They are a lower caste in Israeli society. As diaspora, they are entirely negligible.

>>17936101
trvke

>>17935932 (OP)
idk but bamboo houses and ships/cars made of bamboo intermingled with various resins/composites will destroy the oil industry if it doesnt jump on it first.

>>17939885
But they are more clearly descended from the Biblical Jews at the time of the Second Temple, when there were considerable Jewish populations in what is now Egypt, Persia, Yemen, Iraq, Syria and Libya. For example, Egypt had a distinctive Jewish population which both predated (Elephantine papyri) and postdated the emergence of the Jewish diaspora from what is now Israel/Palestine. So there is a strong case for their ending up in Israel when Nasser forced all of Egypt's remaining Jews out in the 1950s following the Suez Crisis; they were clearly not Europeans.

>>17936392
i don't think kikes view hindushits are their freinds
it's like in school where someone (a loser) is freindly to you but you don't want anyone in the school to know he is associated with you because it will hurt your social status

>>17936232
Marada faggot? that's explains why you take Hezbo dicks up your ass
but it's literally over for you, now that ASSad is gone your alliance with the buck broken Hezbos (after the kikes raped them last year) is pointless
don't be retarded like the Lebanese commies and Ikhwani fucktards and jump off the sinking Shia ship, go back to slurping Maronite semen like a good pro-west slave if you want to survive

>>17940572
shit reply meant for >>17936226

jews invested a lot in making it relevant to the gentile

christianity is the most obvious psyop that wants you to believe god needs jews to exist, that god needs israel to exist and that jews must build a third temple lol