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Anonymous No.17948370 >>17948620
For fellow Holocaust researchers: the outtakes of Claue Lanzmann's interview with former Treblinka staff member Franz Suchomel are now publically available:

https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn1004727

Fascinating to realise just how much Lanzmann edited it.

A lecture by Erin McGlothin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivBXmJ2zdtk) indicates that there are portions of the interview where the audio was salvagable but the video wasn't. Anyone know where to find this?
Anonymous No.17948565 >>17950124
>Holocaust research
>New 1970's Holocaust evidence
Anonymous No.17948620 >>17948633
>>17948370 (OP)
man made horrors
Anonymous No.17948633 >>17950247
>>17948620
it was real in my mind
Anonymous No.17949783
Just contact the USHMM directly at this point.
Anonymous No.17950124
>>17948565
It doesn't really tell us any new info about the camp, but as I alluded to with the link to McGlothin, it is interesting from a Perpetrator Studies perspective.
Anonymous No.17950202 >>17950320 >>17950370 >>17950408 >>17950526 >>17954488
I pretty much stopped being a revisionist when revisionists had no answers for the Jews "deported to the Russian East" specified in the Korherr report and Hoefle Telegram, it was clearly a euphemism for "killed" because they are unable to produce a single piece of evidence showing any kind of deportation to the interior of Russia, which would probably kill them anyway. Then you have the demographic data and Eastern Europe was absolutely filled with Jews before WW2 and it's impossible that all or even the vast majority of them went to the USA or Israel.
Anonymous No.17950247
>>17948633
A classic that keeps on giving.
Anonymous No.17950320 >>17950360 >>17950442 >>17953483
>>17950202
1. you were never a revisionist.
2. There is no evidence deported east means killed, we know Germans were deporting jews to Poland and then receiving them back only to deport them again - this was in 1938 btw.
3. We don’t have accurate numbers on jews deported. Nor do we have reason to believe they didn’t go into hiding.
4. The Jewish population in Israel exploded post war but was officially a secret of the Jewish agency because of the restrictions by the mandate, however going from data on Israel after they became a state the Jewish population globally grew from 1933 to 1950.
5. Given that jews increased in number, there were only a few hundred thousand in Germany (no one actually bothered check how many full jews were in Germany, it’s way fewer than a million), jews being sent into the east was a long standing tactic used as far back as 1938, and that it is very likely the Germans pushed them ahead of the red army as a slowing tactic, we can conclusively say no they were not in fact just killed.
6. No bodies no conviction. Simple as.
Now hop on your tractor and get out of here.
Anonymous No.17950360 >>17953966 >>17954488
>>17950320
>1. you were never a revisionist.
I was, just like Eric Hunt.

>3. We don’t have accurate numbers on jews deported. Nor do we have reason to believe they didn’t go into hiding.
You don't have any proof that these Jews were ever deported. Roberto Muehlenkamp has had an outstanding challenge for decades with a monetary reward of 1,000$ for each Jew found (up to 4000$) deported to the Russian East. The reward has never been claimed, because there is no evidence they were ever deported. Revisionists have no answer for what happened to these Jews.

Around 1.5 million Jews specified in the Korherr report and Hoefle Telegram, no record or testimony or documentation or record to speak of this massive deportation ever happening of even a single Jew deported to Reichkommisariat Ostland or Ukraine or any of the Russian territory under German military administration for something that would require trains constantly transporting Jews from the General Government into the Russian territories on a tremendous scale. Those Jews appeared in the Aktion Reinhardt camps and then disappeared, almost as if they were killed.
Anonymous No.17950370
>>17950202
I find it interesting that we probably killed himmler in custody so he didn't talk
Anonymous No.17950408 >>17950414
>>17950202
The revisionists Mattogno and Graf were able to find a records of some deportations to the east in their book on Treblinka, but the numbers are just crazy:

In a case like Belzec, at least 430,000 Jews were sent there as per Hoefle as you point out, how was it that they were only able to find one survivor to give evidence at the trial?
Anonymous No.17950414
>>17950408
Maybe if we didn't kill himmler
Anonymous No.17950442 >>17950530 >>17951733 >>17954000 >>17954488
>>17950320
> There is no evidence deported east means killed

Goebbels diary March 27, '42

>"Beginning with Lublin, the Jews in the General Government are now being evacuated eastward. The procedure is a pretty barbaric one and not to be described here more definitely. Not much will remain of the Jews. On the whole it can be said that about 60 per cent of them will have to be liquidated whereas only about 40 per cent can be used for forced labor.
>The former Gauleiter of Vienna, who is to carry this measure through, is doing it with considerable circumspection and according to a method that does not attract too much attention. A judgment is being visited upon the Jews that, while barbaric, is fully deserved by them. The prophesy which the Fuehrer made about them for having brought on a new world war is beginning to come true in a most terrible manner. One must not be sentimental in these matters. If we did not fight the Jews, they would destroy us. It’s a life-and-death struggle between the Aryan race and the Jewish bacillus."

Revisionists: "Hmm, what did he mean by this?"
Anonymous No.17950526
>>17950202
You don't even need a holohoax to be revisionist. It's enough to simply deny the Jews their special status as a small fraction of the 80 million killed in the war. If you want real revisionism, you can broach the subject of why European powers continued to provoke Germany when Hitler was explicit and serious in his threats. What policy was so important that world war and the holocaust were worth risking? Because holocaust orthodoxy would indicate the special evil of Hitler and the nazis was worth any risk, any number of dead, to stamp out. Holocaust orthodoxy would indicate the real lesson of WWII is to do it again more brutally at the next opportunity.
Anonymous No.17950530 >>17950888 >>17951974 >>17953955
>>17950442
Why does AI say they're fakes?

>The Goebbels diaries were not found, they were part of the Hitler diaries scandal, where the diaries were found to be a forgery by Konrad Kujau in 1983. Although the diaries were published by Stern magazine in 1983, they were later revealed to be fake due to forensic analysis
Anonymous No.17950888 >>17951013 >>17951154
>>17950530
Because AI often just makes shit up? There is no evidence that the Goebbels Diaries are fake, and Konrad Kujau was the perpetrator of the Hitler Diaries hoax, not the sleuth.
Anonymous No.17950897 >>17951017
>resident neonazi is literally "grok is this true" twitter retard
i'm not suprised
Anonymous No.17951013
>>17950888
did AI tell you that? Be honest.
Anonymous No.17951017
>>17950897
>guy I made up in my mind lost again
he's really a buffoon isn't he
Anonymous No.17951154 >>17951214 >>17951702
>>17950888
Actually AI is sort of right here, the Soviets fakes and released a new Goebbels diary in the 80's. I can't help but wonder if that's the source for these retarded claims
Anonymous No.17951214 >>17951702
>>17951154
Actually it was 1992, right after the soviets collapsed
Anonymous No.17951702 >>17951711
>>17951154
>>17951214
David Irving confirmed the diaries as legitimate
Anonymous No.17951711 >>17951719
>>17951702
I'm not going to leave history up to some bullshit the soviets pulled out of their ass. The fact that we know large amounts of people were never deported out of poland makes the validity of this highly suspect
Anonymous No.17951719 >>17951724
>>17951711
>The fact that we know large amounts of people were never deported out of poland makes the validity of this highly suspect
Exactly, they were never deported out of Poland. They were killed in Aktion Reinhardt camps in the General Government and the Nazi used "deported to the East" as a euphemism for that. Revisionists like you are the ones who argue that there was a mass deportation of millions to the East, something which they have no evidence for.
Anonymous No.17951724 >>17951730 >>17951733
>>17951719
Every time jews claim "the nazis meant something else" they're lying. More than likely Goebbels didn't know what he was talking about (because it wasn't his responsibility)
Anonymous No.17951730 >>17951731 >>17956218
>>17951724
Bit of a reach don't you think
Anonymous No.17951731 >>17951746
>>17951730
no, because what himmler was doing was secret, which is why we killed him
Anonymous No.17951733 >>17951737
>>17951724
Himmler ordered the term Sonderbehandlung (special handling) changed to deported to the East. Goebbels in his diary says that deportation to the East meant liquidation and forced labor >>17950442

Millions of Jews were never deported to the Russian East, this process never took place. They ended up in the AR camps and disappeared. What happened to those 1.5 million Jews?
Anonymous No.17951737
>>17951733
There's no evidence for "1.5 million jews" being sent to Himmler, it was at most half that
Anonymous No.17951746 >>17951749
>>17951731
Secret means not for plebeians. He was one of the most important men in the entire movement.
Anonymous No.17951749 >>17951753
>>17951746
And yet not even hitler knew what himmler was doing
Anonymous No.17951753 >>17951761
>>17951749
seems like a pretty big oversight
Anonymous No.17951761 >>17951812
>>17951753
Not really, Himmler proved his worth and was allowed his own projects. One of these was stealing the valuables of jews
Anonymous No.17951812 >>17951967
>>17951761
In that case it's kind of a semantic argument to say Hitler didn't know, if he didn't care what happened to them and completely wrote them out of history.
Anonymous No.17951967 >>17952013
>>17951812
Not really. It's pretty relevant that Hitler didn't know of any Holocaust. Just more information that proves the Holocaust didn't happen. The backwards shithole state of eastern Europe then and now prevents anyone from reconciliation
Anonymous No.17951974 >>17955914
>>17950530
Why does AI say there are 2 Rs in Strawberry?
Anonymous No.17952013 >>17952053
>>17951967
He did know. You're just saying he wilfully ignored the details. Otherwise, it would be a big oversight to forget about the Jews when they were such a big deal earlier.
Anonymous No.17952053 >>17952054
>>17952013
How did he know? The foremost Hitler historian said there's not a shred of evidence of a Holocaust ordered by Hitler
Anonymous No.17952054 >>17952066
>>17952053
Sounds like a big oversight. Why was Hitler so stupid?
Anonymous No.17952066 >>17952342
>>17952054
Why would Hitler care?
Anonymous No.17952078 >>17952085
It starts out pretty interesting.
Anonymous No.17952085 >>17952092
>>17952078
>I was never part of the SS
- Franz Suchomel, SS UnterscharfΓΌhrer and key eyewitness to the mass killings at Treblinka
Anonymous No.17952092 >>17952094 >>17952164
>>17952085
So for every 2,000 people killed at Treblinka, 3,000 more died in the trains. Assuming the lower estimate (700,000 people killed at Treblinka), that would raise the number of people killed in the Holocaust by about a million. This is pretty big; have reputable historians picked up on this yet, adding the transit deaths to the total? If not, then the actual death toll is closer to 7,000,000 instead of 6,000,000.
Anonymous No.17952094 >>17952109
>>17952092
Forgot pic.
Anonymous No.17952109 >>17952118
>>17952094
Adding to this, at one point the interviewer also goes back to speaking French with his assistant/interpreter and complains that Suchomel is contradicting himself.
Anonymous No.17952118 >>17952131 >>17952166 >>17952258
>>17952109
>In Poland, only exhaust fumes were used.
I'm starting to think Suchomel's grasp of the operation of gas chambers was... limited. Also, he seems not to know that Auschwitz was in Poland.
Anonymous No.17952131 >>17952145 >>17952151
>>17952118
What the fuck am I reading
Anonymous No.17952145 >>17952168
>>17952131
Throughout the interview Suchomel portrays Wirth as a villain, who even whipped German soldiers. Luckily for Suchomel, Wirth was killed in 1944 and therefore couldn't tell his own side of the story.
Anonymous No.17952151
>>17952131
LMAO what is this ?

Lolocaust btfo. Why don't /his/ fags just read the encylopedia?
poleGOD No.17952164
>>17952092
I think numbers from Treblinka mostly come from how many Jews were deported there from Ghettos and from HΓΆfle telegram so the 700k-900k number is still actual, people dying en mass on trains isn't really a new information
Anonymous No.17952166
>>17952118
>>In Poland, only exhaust fumes were used.
duh, okay
Anonymous No.17952168 >>17952173 >>17952175 >>17952180
>>17952145
They had a "hospital", which was really just an embankment made of sand. With every transport that came in, they separated the sick and the old from the rest. Then, instead of gassing them with the rest, they led them to a "hospital", which was really an embankment where they were shot individually, because putting them in the gas chambers with all the rest would have taken too much time.
Anonymous No.17952173 >>17952183 >>17952188 >>17953488
>>17952168
Odilo Globocnik, who led Operation Reinhard, had a secret plan to kill every German soldier involved with the extermination camps (which must be hundreds of thousands). Luckily for Suchomel, the Germans lost the war and Globocnik committed suicide in May 1945, so like Wirth he wasn't around to contradict things.
poleGOD No.17952175
>>17952168
Yup, the old and sick were mostly killed sparately as they could slow down the procces of herding people into chambers and possibly create chaos if they fall over, this is also where the small part of camp's slaves were killed
Anonymous No.17952180
>>17952168
God I hate when they just asspull some made up interpretation of a translation and everybody;s like "oh yes, the secret banana split hair comb, which actually meant testicular torsion"
Anonymous No.17952183 >>17952197 >>17952198
>>17952173
Hey, I've seen this one before. Holocaust deniers love this one.
poleGOD No.17952188
>>17952173
I think he only mean that Germans would simply repeat the Holocaust on Slavs/Other Soviet people after winning the war. The concern how the war of genocide would affect a sizable population of Germany was actually a real thing, I don't think they would kill the Germans since by the end of 1942 pretty much most of Europe already knew about Holocaust but I'm pretty sure the Ukrainian/Russian guards would be less lucky
Anonymous No.17952197 >>17952205
>>17952183
Suchomel contradicts the testimony of a Mr. Borax from a trial that happened earlier. Under today's laws in Germany, this would constitute Holocaust denial.
Anonymous No.17952198
>>17952183
It might be the same guy giving the same testimony multiple times, or of the handful of people whose testimonies exist for the reinhardt camps multiple people say women burn good
Anonymous No.17952205 >>17952215 >>17952223 >>17952245 >>17952930
>>17952197
Apparently the female inmates figured out in the 2-3 days before they were gassed that if they cut their children's veins open, their children would succumb to the gas more quickly.
Anonymous No.17952215 >>17952220
>>17952205
they cut their veins and rubbed blood on their faces to make them look healthier
Anonymous No.17952220
>>17952215
pretty "jewesses" would probably be saved from labor to be SS whores
poleGOD No.17952223 >>17952237 >>17952245
>>17952205
Correct, because of Eberl's bad managment of the camp, the mass genocide was pretty obvious to everyone by the september of 1942
Still, it's a pretty chilling story, I didn't hear about this one before
Anonymous No.17952231
Treblinka has its own study by Mattogno. All the camps do.
Anonymous No.17952237 >>17952279
>>17952223
>obvious to everyone by 42

LMAO
Anonymous No.17952245 >>17952255 >>17952270 >>17952279 >>17952279
>>17952205
Not all old and sick Jews were taken to the "hospital" and shot. Some were actually used as workers for some reason. But then, as the corpses were being dug up and burned by the thousands, the Germans held a circus...

>>17952223
What I mean is, somehow they figured out that children with opened veins would die more quickly from the gas. How?
Anonymous No.17952255 >>17952258
>>17952245
And now he seems to be totally lost in translation, because after the circus he's starting about a zoo.
Anonymous No.17952258 >>17952264
>>17952255
Now we find out why Suchomel was a little confused in >>17952118. He never actually witnessed the operation of any of the gas chambers.
Anonymous No.17952264 >>17952273 >>17952278
>>17952258
Apparently, Jews from Germany and Czechia came in passenger cars instead of livestock cars.
Anonymous No.17952270
>>17952245
He's talking about the morning drills the jewish laborers had to do which jews equate to torturous death
Anonymous No.17952273
>>17952264
He's probably telling the truth here
Anonymous No.17952278 >>17952281 >>17952283
>>17952264
The Jews coming to the camp had a lot of wealth on them, according to Suchomel. For some reason, the Polish Jews had dollars, while other Jews had a combination of (pre-Soviet?) gold coins from Russia and British pounds.
poleGOD No.17952279 >>17952288
>>17952237
Yes, along with black market people who were using this to sell them stuff for high prices
>>17952245
Seems pretty obvious to me? where do you think oxygen runs
>>17952245
You propably mean Der SS- und PolizeifΓΌhrer im Distrikt Warschau Arbeitslager Treblinka (aka Treblinka I ) while the camp that killed 900k Jews was SS-Sonderkommando Treblinka (aka Treblinka II)
I know it may seem confusing for someone who isn't knowladge about Holocaust but I'm still glad that you are studying the topic
Anonymous No.17952281 >>17952298 >>17952299
>>17952278
Because apparently the main purpose of the reinhardt camps was to rob "rich jews" which the germans were telling they were going to resettle in the east.

But in actuality Himmler and the SS were robbing them
Anonymous No.17952283 >>17952298 >>17952315
>>17952278
No, really, some of these guys were REALLY rich on arrival.
Anonymous No.17952287
The holocaust is impossible to defend in writing. That's why the only pro exterminationist study of it is by Pressac - and even that no one can defend.
Anonymous No.17952288 >>17952298
>>17952279
>You propably mean Der SS- und PolizeifΓΌhrer im Distrikt Warschau Arbeitslager Treblinka (aka Treblinka I )
No, he's talking about the Jews whose task it was to take the corpses out of the gas chamber, remove any gold teeth, load them onto stretchers and carry them to the trenches to be buried, and later to the pyres to be burned.
poleGOD No.17952298 >>17952309 >>17952310
>>17952281
>>17952283
Disgusting, no? It's plunder from when they ransacked Europe half a century ago. These bastards shook out whole countries like piggy-banks, taking everything of value. No matter how small. Everything from gold ingots and wads of cash down to pocket watches and gold teeth. The fearsome Schutzstaffel. They think they're Nietzsche's wet dream, but they're just vultures picking at the dead. They're a bunch of misfits who think war is some kind of costume ball. The invincible army? The knights of steel? What a pack of losers.
>>17952288
Oh yes, my bad i didn't read this post corectly since im sleepy
But by circus he mean he was bascially whiping kindaped Jews for fun so idk where the problem is
Anonymous No.17952299 >>17952304 >>17952307
>>17952281
The name of the operation was after the finance minister, a point that holocaust believers contested for years.
The deportees were taxed on exit so as not to take Europe's wealth with them.
Killing them was unnecessary as Hitler's words on the matter given by Hortha showed. Besides Hitler and germans were Christians by birth or training.
Anonymous No.17952304 >>17952313
>>17952299
They weren't killed, they were went to camps that said "work makes you free"
poleGOD No.17952307 >>17952312
>>17952299
>Killing them was unnecessary
Now you start to get why Holocaust (and WW2) was evil
it wasn't necessary
Anonymous No.17952309 >>17952319
>>17952298
Ironic when we're talking about robbing usurious peddling jews
Anonymous No.17952310 >>17952319
>>17952298
>the SS
>misfits
Anonymous No.17952312 >>17952319
>>17952307
Which is why they weren't killed.
Anonymous No.17952313
>>17952304
Indeed, people, even Jews were set free from these camps.
Anonymous No.17952315 >>17952319 >>17952322 >>17953443
>>17952283
Turns out that in Suchomel's mind there was also a Holocaust against, uh, Germans. Here he says that there was a secret program whose evidence was lost entirely, but it entailed special detachments of soldiers going out to bombed German cities to kill German survivors by lethal injection.
poleGOD No.17952319 >>17952324 >>17952334 >>17952361
>>17952309
>>17952312
I see two two diffrent opinions...
>>17952310
It kinda fits, since SS was kinda like Wermacht' retarded baby becasue Himmler wanted to larp as a leader of a knight order
>>17952315
It is your first time hearing about murdering of German Jews, homosexuals, political oponents, cripples and mentaly ill?
Anonymous No.17952322 >>17952361
>>17952315
Suchomel, according to himself, was such a good guy that the Jews working under him called him Yom Kippur (translated to a Christian context, basically Father Christmas). Also, the interviewer (who is Jewish) remarks that Suchomel has a Yiddish accent.
Anonymous No.17952324 >>17952329
>>17952319
You can rob Jews under the pretext that they robbed you with their culture and still not kill them

Himmler was the real chud
poleGOD No.17952329 >>17952332
>>17952324
But how did Jews who lived in Poland, USSR and Hungary robed germans?
Anonymous No.17952332 >>17952346
>>17952329
Not the Germans then. Jewish culture was pretty much uniform. Everywhere they went they engaged in the same practices.
Anonymous No.17952334 >>17952346
>>17952319
>The waffen SS
>kinda misfits cus they're retarded

How are they retarded?

>just kinda feels that way cus I don't like them. Tots real dude, cold facts
Anonymous No.17952342 >>17952344
>>17952066
Why would he care about millions of people who were central to his party ideology? People have wondered about his Jew hate for a long time, so good question I guess.
Anonymous No.17952344 >>17952349 >>17952351
>>17952342
I'm guessing Hitler stopped thinking about Jews once the war started. Especially since it was never something he believed
poleGOD No.17952346 >>17952350 >>17952353
>>17952332
So Germans were then defending Poles and Russians from Jewes?
Did they give Poles and Russians back what Jews stole from them then?
>>17952334
>How are they retarded?
Mostly poor battle preformance while draining Wermacht resources, also all this weird magic larping
Anonymous No.17952348 >>17952355
Seriously they're retarded?

> yeah dude, I mean come on. Killing all those people

Did they?

> totally dude, there's a mountain of evidence, had Vashem told me

Mountains of real evidence?

> wait are you some kinda denier?
Anonymous No.17952349
>>17952344
Safe to say I've won the rational argument part of our interaction, then. You can rant and cope by yourself.
Anonymous No.17952350 >>17952369
>>17952346
Hell no the SS were throwing parties with the shit they stole, with Jewish and polish whores.
Anonymous No.17952351 >>17952354
>>17952344
>The Jews are our greatest enemy, they plan our downfall!
>Oh scheiße, the war stared? It's a perfect moment to forget about our moral enemies
Anonymous No.17952353 >>17952369
>>17952346
> mostly poor battle performance
>stealing resources

Like what battle?

>uuuuh...
Anonymous No.17952354 >>17952365
>>17952351
Jews were a cover for Hitler's seething animosity towards the west for Versailles and imperialist goals
Anonymous No.17952355 >>17952359 >>17952374
>>17952348
Mike Enoch rotted your brain
Anonymous No.17952359
>>17952355
You mean actual battle history?
Anonymous No.17952361 >>17952369 >>17952388
>>17952322
It closes off with Suchomel kowtowing to Lanzmann, Lanzmann humiliating and pressuring Suchomel (joking how Suchomel is now being paid by a Jew, not paying Suchomel the previously agreed amount, then demanding to meet again if Suchomel wants the rest of the money), and Lanzmann lying about not revealing Suchomel's identity (after repeatedly pretending to turn off his cameras and recorders). This is mafia stuff, lol. Very reliable stuff.

>>17952319
>It is your first time hearing about murdering of German Jews, homosexuals, political oponents, cripples and mentaly ill?
This is specifically about the Nazis murdering ordinary German survivors of bombing raids on German cities for some nefarious political reason, not any of that other stuff.
Anonymous No.17952365
>>17952354
I think everyone should at least know by now that Hitler hijacked a Bavarian national socialist party but he didn't necessarily adhered to all it's policies. He was just using it to become the leader of Germany
poleGOD No.17952369 >>17952371 >>17952374 >>17952387
>>17952350
So basicaly they behave just like the Jews in your imagination
>>17952353
Battle of JaworΓ³w is a good example, and overwal the Wermacht had poor opinion of SS units
>>17952361
>Nazis murdering ordinary German survivors of bombing raids on German cities
Seems pretty naz-like to me, if you got permamently crippled and you cannot help the war effort anymore, you become a Lebensunwertes Leben(life unworthy of life), a free eater, why letting a cripple live when heatlhy Aryans are deying on the front?
Poster says
>This person who suffers a hereditary disease has a lifelong cost of 60,000 Reichsmarks to the National Community. Fellow German, that is your money as we
This pretty much explain how a nazi thinks
Anonymous No.17952371
>>17952369
I don't have Jews in my imagination outside of checking the early life section
Anonymous No.17952374 >>17952388 >>17952392 >>17952420 >>17952473
>>17952355
Big Mike has some bad takes - for instance, I speak German and I know "ausrottung" does not mean "disempowering", it means "exterminating", but Big Mike continues to deny that.

However, a lot of his criticisms of the historical mainstream are correct. Witness testimonies about the process of gassing and disposing of bodies are often contradictory to the point where they'd be thrown out of the record in a modern court. There is also an acute lack of physical evidence, particularly the large number of non-processed bodies that should still be buried around former extermination camps.

>>17952369
>Seems pretty naz-like to me
It can seem any which way, but there's no evidence for it. It's one of those dead-end atrocity rumors, like the crucified Canadian and the Belgian babies on bayonets in WWI. In the historical record about World War II, for every gas chamber there's an electric floor, so to speak, and for every massacre in the east by the Einsatzgruppen there's a rollercoaster of death or a looping shotgun.
Anonymous No.17952387 >>17952401
>>17952369
An early SS formation suffers and is disbanded. Big deal. It's true that they hadn't the organisational training and heavy weapons of the whermact. But essentially they were loyal and steadfast.

Euthanasia was a popular concept across the world at the time.

Dude at this point no one really believes in the holocaust. It can't be defended by anyone, not even the best paid academics of genocide studies etc will defend it under scrutiny and the only people still trying are the bloggers who are known frauds even by their own side.

To this day not even the Jews can write a study on it. Best you've got is Lipstadt. That says it all. Not even you really believe this shit.
poleGOD No.17952388 >>17952394 >>17952397
>>17952361
Thanks for dumping btw, we all need to remember where ideologies like racism and eugenis will always end
>>17952374
I guess not, but with stuff like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Accuse_(1941_film)
I would totaly believe that something like that could happen since nazis had a very strong contempt towards for UnnΓΌtze Esser (useless eaters)
Anonymous No.17952392 >>17952438
>>17952374
"Extirpating" is more accurate.
Anonymous No.17952394
>>17952388
They should make movies about Germans being the most ridiculously evil people imaginable to really drive the point home too
Anonymous No.17952397 >>17952401
>>17952388
Even euthanasia was carefully considered action. "Life unworthy of life" was the phrasing, mainly for living vegetables and such which is itself a life we wouldn't even let our dogs and cats live.
poleGOD No.17952401 >>17952405 >>17952407
>>17952387
The Holocaustβ€”the systematic killing of about six million Jews by Nazi Germany from 1941 to 1945β€”is the most-documented genocide in history. Evidence for the Holocaust comes in four main varieties:

Contemporary documents, including a wide variety of "letters, memos, blueprints, orders, bills, speeches"; Holocaust train schedules and statistical summaries generated by the SS; and photographs, including official photographs, clandestine photographs by survivors, aerial photographs, and film footage of the liberation of the camps. More than 3,000 tons of records were collected for the Nuremberg trials.
Later testimony from tens of thousands of eyewitnesses, including survivors such as Sonderkommandos, who directly witnessed the extermination process; perpetrators such as Nazi leaders, SS guards, and Nazi concentration camp commandants; and local townspeople. Moreover, virtually none of the perpetrators put on trial denied the reality of the systematic murder, with the most common excuse (where one was given) being that they were just following orders.
Material evidence in the form of concentration and extermination camps, which still exist with various amounts of the original structure preserved, and thousands of mass graves containing the corpses of Holocaust victims.
Circumstantial evidence: during World War II, the population of Jews in German-occupied Europe was reduced by about six million. About 2.7 million Jews were deported to Auschwitz-Birkenau, Kulmhof extermination camp, and the Operation Reinhard camps never to be seen or heard from again.

>>17952397
>Even euthanasia was carefully considered action
Too bad they didn't considerer the opinion of children they murdered
Anonymous No.17952405 >>17952417
>>17952401
The Holocaust is so documented they can't find a single guy that operated the gas chambers
Anonymous No.17952407 >>17952417
>>17952401
>posts script from AI

All debunked bit by bit and in detail over 50 odd studies.

Children can't consent either way and vegetables don't have opinions. Present company excepted of course.
Anonymous No.17952410 >>17952414
Evidence for the Holocaust:
β€’ a shitton of stories
β€’ zero bomes
Anonymous No.17952414
>>17952410
poleGOD No.17952417 >>17952419 >>17952465
>>17952405
Pretty sure they judged shitload of people who worked in death camps and it doesn't negate other evidences
>>17952407
You know, when you are a neonazi who try to decive and radicalize people you need to choose a path, either
>I'm an edgy aryan warrior, Children can't consent to not being murdered!
or
>Jewish lie It didn't happen Hitler was a Marvel hero he loved jews and sick children
Doing both just makes you look silly and unhinged
Anonymous No.17952419 >>17952429
>>17952417
Yeah they sentenced a bunch of innocent people that Germany acquitted after the west got off their clay
Anonymous No.17952420 >>17952465 >>17952494
>>17952374
The TRS guys are opportunistic liars, they even deny the Nazi regime was anti Slavic which is blatantly absurd. Mike admitted he would still be a public Holocaust denier because even if it were real it's still used to slander white people and Hitler so the best thing to do is deny it. Whenever the Einsatzgruppen or missing Jews from the Korherr report are brought up he just says "that's not the Holocaust, the Holocaust is the original story gassing" and refuses to engage with it besides to shill enormous volumes of denier literature. A lot of the deniers have been beginning to accept death of millions by bullets and forced labor.
poleGOD No.17952429 >>17952458
>>17952419
rip nazi dindunuffins
Anonymous No.17952438 >>17952471
>>17952392
Yes debating the definition of Ausrottung is stupid, but it doesn't really matter anyway because in the Posen Speeches Himmler explains what he means with "umbringen".

>Es trat an uns die Frage heran: Wie ist es mit den Frauen und Kindern? Ich habe mich entschlossen, auch hier eine ganz klare Lâsung zu finden. Ich hielt mich nÀmlich nicht für berechtigt, die MÀnner auszurotten- sprich also, umzubringen oder umbringen zu lassen - und die RÀcher in Gestalt der Kinder für unsere Sâhne und Enkel groß werden zu lassen. Es mußte der schwere Entschluß gefaßt werden, dieses Volk von der Erde verschwinden zu lassen.

The Posen Speeches are damning and only people who don't know German argue about semantics and definitions of words like this. Which is why German deniers like Germar Rudolf simply call them fake and made by a Himmler impersonator.
Anonymous No.17952458 >>17952473
>>17952429
It's fine we invited them over to the US
Anonymous No.17952465 >>17952473 >>17952479 >>17952487
>>17952417
Children, particularly vegetables, literally can't consent as they're not able to recognize their own interests. Which is why we have euthanasia in the first place. Think more.

Hitler didn't see Jews as retards quite the opposite.

Give it up.

>>17952420
The EG was itself studied in detail. TRS puts some stuff down to asymmetric warfare I.e. partisans. If you can't engage with the actual studies there's no point conversing until you do. In any case Mike Peinovich handed your boy History Speaks his ass in the last holocaust debate as did T Dalton. Cockerill aka HS is the last retard to ever try to defend this shit irl and you know it.
Anonymous No.17952471
>>17952438
> muh Posen speech
Also debunked. No debunking by revisionists can be refuted.
poleGOD No.17952473 >>17952477 >>17952514
>>17952374
>In early 2017, while operating his antisemitic media network under his pseudonym, Enoch was doxxed by fellow neo-Nazis. Most notably, the dox revealed that the neo-Nazi Enoch was married to a Jewish woman, and that their wedding had featured traditional Jewish rites and chanting. According to Salon.com, prior to the dox, Enoch's wife had appeared as a guest on The Daily Shoah to promote antisemitic memes

If Jews do pretend to be low IQ neonazis like you or people itt in order to discredit the movement and gain sympathy for themselvs then I have to admit that I got Jewed

>>17952458
Yes, a lot of nazis worked with USA, all the more reason why "making holocaust up to demonize poor nazis" don't make a lot sense
>>17952465
>Children can't consent to not being murederd
Why you are so vile dude
Anonymous No.17952477 >>17952486 >>17952514
>>17952473
Reminder that carter was mean to Israel because of how they were treating Palestinians and they made him make the US holocaust memorial museum with Elie Wiesel, the probable fraud, being the spokesperson
Anonymous No.17952479
>>17952465
He's not my boy. And even though I believe millions of Jews were murdered, I truly don't give a fuck about that fate and am actually thankful they are gone from Eastern Europe. Frankly I just hate white nationalists (like you) for being anti Slavic, Germanic supremacist liars that whitewash Nazi crimes in Eastern Europe and want to murder Poles like me just like the Nazis did.
Anonymous No.17952486 >>17952488
>>17952477
Who owns you?
Anonymous No.17952487 >>17952491 >>17952525
>>17952465
>If you can't engage with the actual studies that my college dropout pizza delivery worker wrote on his blog there's no point conversing
why are nazis so retarded?
Anonymous No.17952488
>>17952486
Anonymous No.17952491 >>17952525
>>17952487
He's talking about 3000 page volumes by revisionist authors, that is what they do. They take these giant revisionist works and demand you read all of them instead of providing the evidence or argument directly.
Anonymous No.17952494 >>17952497 >>17952504
>>17952420
>they even deny the Nazi regime was anti Slavic
It's not that they were anti slavic, the were more pro german. There were large scale polish deportations near warsaw, but that was because they were going to make warsaw a new german state capital.
Anonymous No.17952497 >>17952499
>>17952494
bruh
Anonymous No.17952499 >>17952502
>>17952497
Go ahead and try to disprove me.
Anonymous No.17952502
>>17952499
It's not like I don't disprove it i'm just more pro not disproving
Anonymous No.17952504 >>17952509
>>17952494
>It's not that they were anti slavic
Yes they were, this is what I mean. You are all liars. I don't know if it's you or someone with an identical writing style to you (it's you I have no doubt) that's on here saying Slavs want to destroy Western Civilization and need to be killed for the Germanic race.

>There were large scale polish deportations near warsaw, but that was because they were going to make warsaw a new german state capital.
A new German state without Poles in it because we would be gone, besides a small percentage which were phenotypically nordic enough according to racial examiners to be eligible for Germanization. And you think that's fine?
Anonymous No.17952509 >>17952516 >>17952531
>>17952504
Goebbels made that book calling slavs untermensch which is how they justified colonizing them and saving them from their barbaric ways. This is rooted is the practice of the germans moving east and taking control of slavic lands and developing them. So rather than being rooted in complete racism it was rooted in history and tradition.

But this was after Barbarossa
Anonymous No.17952514 >>17952521
>>17952473
>Salon.com

>why so vile?
Have you seen the existence some people are required to live?

>>17952477
He's the only boy you have and even tried the "mean to slavs" bullshit. Slavs fought for Hitler who was both in favour of and mean to Poles depending on events. Poles are generally shit bags and bad faith in European history. But given the tremendous number of jews there it's understood. You should be thanking Hitler for reducing the number of jews in that area dramatically.
Anonymous No.17952516 >>17952520 >>17952538
>>17952509
They never wanted to save anyone, they wanted to replaced the people with Germans and you've just proved to me you are a Germanic supremacist like all the rest. The first thing a nationalist Germany cleansed of non Europeans would do is to march troops into Silesia and Pomerania and start shooting and you would support that. May you get replaced and killed by nigger animals you piece of shit along with all of Germany.
Anonymous No.17952520 >>17952531
>>17952516
General Government was going to be a new German state. To my understanding it wasn't very populated. Hitler ordered 750,000 tons of flour sent there so it was important. This is also where the supposed Holocaust took place. Coincidence?

Cohencidence?
poleGOD No.17952521 >>17952538
>>17952514
Sorry but as long as we, Poles, are around, you will not murder children anymore
>thanking Hitler for reducing the number of jews in that area dramatically.
uh, pardon?
Anonymous No.17952525 >>17952532
>>17952491
>>17952487
>there's too much to read!
Lol>>
17952509
Germans had been vying for land with Slavs for 100s of years. Get over it.
Anonymous No.17952531 >>17952533 >>17952543
>>17952520
The General Government was an open air slave camp where Poles were pushed into and had no rights and were treated like animals for the future Nordic-Germanic colonization of Poland under Generalplan Ost. What coincidence are you talking about? Nazis slaughtered my people and tried to wipe them out and you defend it right here >>17952509

White nationalism is Germanic supremacy. You want the death of Slavs and even the Mediterraneans and Balts also you just hide it with your white unity memes but I know how you dirty people really are.
Anonymous No.17952532 >>17952543
>>17952525
the point is why i should read a pizza delivery boy "study"
Anonymous No.17952533
>>17952531
>Generalplan Ost
Ah so you know why the deported the poled in warsaw then. You were just playing dumb
Anonymous No.17952538 >>17952541 >>17952545
>>17952516
Who gives a fuck what someone proves to you? It's not about you.

Germans had lived in the eastern area right up to koningsberg and beyond for a long time. Hitler sought to redraw boundaries to end the ceaseless wars there.

>>17952521
Stop pretending your the saviour of little children.
Anonymous No.17952541 >>17952544
>>17952538
>Hitler sought to redraw boundaries to end the ceaseless wars there.
Imperialism is imperialism. It doesn't really matter what the intentions are of the conqueror. Which is why I didn't like what Hitler did to Nationalists in Poland or elsewhere
Anonymous No.17952543 >>17952545
>>17952531
We actually like Slavs and respect b them greatly. Thus our support for Russia.
>>17952532
You should read it because it's the most detailing relevant study on the topic.
Anonymous No.17952544 >>17952549
>>17952541
Hitler respected nationalists who opted for honourable conduct. Thus the recruitment and good treatment.
poleGOD No.17952545 >>17952553 >>17952553
>>17952538
Seethe about it, only in your deranged fantasies you will be forcefully euthanizing and murderning children and it will stay like this forever
>>17952543
You are wasting your time with your brainwashing attempt, if he claims to hate Jews then he is an Endencja larper and Dmowski was no1 hater of krauts
Anonymous No.17952549 >>17952555
>>17952544
What about that hit list he had of polish nationalists? he didn't give them a chance to negotiate
Anonymous No.17952553 >>17952560
>>17952545
Euthanasia is known even today. Stop sperging.
>>17952545
Stop doing the ever paranoid slav routine. Be more cool headed like us.
Anonymous No.17952555 >>17952557
>>17952549
He gave poland many chances and very good terms. If they spurn these that's on them. He literally attended pilsudski funeral for god sake you dumb paranoid Pollack.
Anonymous No.17952557 >>17952567
>>17952555
maybe it's on them, but assassination is for cowards
poleGOD No.17952560 >>17952567
>>17952553
Why do you get off to killing children? I can undestand hating da joos or slavs since we destoryed you in war but how do sick children offend you?
Anonymous No.17952563 >>17952565
Oh and the SS executed its own officer for......

Murdering two Jews...

Game over.
Anonymous No.17952565 >>17952568
>>17952563
forgot to add it was real in my mind
Anonymous No.17952567 >>17952570 >>17952578
>>17952557
Better than waiting for them to ambush troops in column.
>>17952560
Vegetables as living humans offends me as an affront to the soul of said vegetable. There's why.
Anonymous No.17952568 >>17952571
>>17952565
SS judge K Mogaan presided.

Stop coping. Take a deep breath.
Anonymous No.17952570 >>17952574
>>17952567
BandenbekΓ€mpfung wouldn't be nearly so egregious if Germany conducted itself as it imagined itself.
Anonymous No.17952571
>>17952568
#Morgan
Anonymous No.17952574 >>17952576
>>17952570
Same way all over. Except germans were more about the rules. Still are.
Anonymous No.17952576 >>17952584
>>17952574
I don't know I think the English have them beat
poleGOD No.17952578 >>17952583 >>17952584
>>17952567
At least nazis had an excuse of wanting to save resources to war while you want to murder children for some autistic reasons
I ask again, what did a child with Cerebral palsy did to you that you are out for his blood?
Anonymous No.17952583 >>17952585 >>17952587
>>17952578
Well Aktion T4 were more experiments than anything, blown out of proportion by the Catholic Church. The Church assisted the Germans and their programs and then to save face lied about the extent of the program
Anonymous No.17952584 >>17952586 >>17952588 >>17952595
>>17952576
The English are known as perfidious Albion. So no.
>>17952578
Their bodies are a torture to themselves and their families. I keep telling you but you don't seem to get it.
poleGOD No.17952585 >>17952589 >>17952592 >>17952608
>>17952583
Would you shoot this child in the head as an "experiments"? or your neonazism ends as being a tough guy on the internet
Anonymous No.17952586 >>17952592
>>17952584
Brits only became psychopaths because of the French. And despite only meeting one french person in my life there's something primal in me that hates them
Anonymous No.17952587
>>17952583
Public health in euthanasia was common across the world at the time.

Now we make them live decades in a bed or a chair spoon fed by slop.
poleGOD No.17952588 >>17952596
>>17952584
Well, we have problem then
You want to murder sick children while I don't want to see them being murdered
Anonymous No.17952589 >>17952590
>>17952585
I don't think they were shooting kids in the head, were they?
poleGOD No.17952590 >>17952596 >>17952603
>>17952589
They were gassed or have poison inject into their veins but does that matter? if you are a nazi then you might as well go totalkriegen
Anonymous No.17952592 >>17952595
>>17952585
She seems well and quite conscious. The nazis would not euthanise her.
>>17952586
So you at least don't deny your hatred.
poleGOD No.17952595 >>17952600
>>17952592
according to >>17952584 they would and that's a good thing
which one of you is a true nazi?
Anonymous No.17952596 >>17952599 >>17952601
>>17952588
They're not sick. They're profoundly disabled. You don't even understand the issue.
>>17952590
Generally they had careful hearings about each case.
poleGOD No.17952599 >>17952605
>>17952596
So after you stop being an overweight loser, become next hitler, take over a country and chase away all blacks or whatever, the next stop is sweeping all the medical centres and hunt for children with Cerebral palsy?
Anonymous No.17952600 >>17952601
>>17952595
She's not particularly bad off so they would not euthanise her. There are records of their deliberations on these cases. You're just butthurt they had moral courage and you don't.
poleGOD No.17952601 >>17952607
>>17952600
but >>17952596 said it would be OK to kill her since she is profoundly disabled
which one of you is a true nazi?
Anonymous No.17952603 >>17952608
>>17952590
Aren't they literally euthanizing people legally now in eurotard countries?
Anonymous No.17952605 >>17952608
>>17952599
Well, stopping them being born is a first step of course. Then itd be judged case by case. Letting them live is more cruel.
Anonymous No.17952607
>>17952601
No nazi ever said that people with no legs weren't fit for life. For god sake the nazis were war veterans so alot of their friends walked on crutches.
poleGOD No.17952608 >>17952612 >>17952615 >>17952615
>>17952603
I think some countries do if an adult consents, I'm not aware of a country that murder it's own children since nazi germany tho
>>17952605
Would you say to this to >>17952585 girl that you are going to kill her because letting her live is too cruel?
Anonymous No.17952612 >>17952623 >>17952624
>>17952608
Were they only killing disabled children or were they mostly killing adults?
Anonymous No.17952615 >>17952623
>>17952608
America would be a case in point at the time.
>>17952608
No because she's not so bad off. I don't mind having my nazi views interrogated.
Anonymous No.17952622 >>17952633 >>17952637
I haven't seen any compelling evidence against holocaust so I have no reason to doubt it, but do the numbers add up? What's the pre-war jewish population vs 50s jewish population in americas, russia and israel?
poleGOD No.17952623 >>17952625 >>17952629
>>17952612
They were murdering Adults too
>>17952615
>I don't mind having my nazi views interrogated.
I think you just got to know your idols a little bit better and that caused a bit of a shock, I'm glad that I could help
Anonymous No.17952624 >>17952628 >>17952631
>>17952612
Case by case. Some adults were really bad off. The practice was in fashion across the world at the time. Germans were more explicit about it because they took racial and communal hygiene seriously. That didn't mean they left compassion behind. Far from it.
Anonymous No.17952625 >>17952631
>>17952623
I don't personally agree with euthanasia but that doesn't have anything to do with anything. If the implication is that aktion t4 was a Holocaust tier massacre against disabled people I'm going to have to call bullshit. Was it evil? Yeah probably. But so are taxes
Anonymous No.17952628
>>17952624
>Germans were more explicit about it because they took racial and communal hygiene seriously. That didn't mean they left compassion behind
Germans cared less about sterilization and eugenics than other countries at the time, like the US and Sweden. They cared more about racial skull autism. Lothrop Stoddard in Into the Darkness goes over how lenient these programs in Germany actually were and how they barely accomplished anything. They didn't really care about eugenics, they wanted to murder Slavs who had wide skulls and increase the birth rate of those with long skulls and blonde hair ("Nordics").
Anonymous No.17952629 >>17952637
>>17952623
I've studied these men for over a decade so you've only confirmed that I am correct. But thank you anyway for whatever you think you helped with.
poleGOD No.17952631 >>17952632 >>17952638
>>17952624
compassion for Lebensunwertes Leben and UnnΓΌtze Esser is something that you need to leave behind if you want to be a true nazi
>>17952625
idk taxes sound less evil than murdering children to me
Anonymous No.17952632 >>17952637
>>17952631
Taxes are issued by the state. Aktion t4 was issued by the state. The state kills people. The state tells you lies.
Anonymous No.17952633 >>17952637
>>17952622
Numbers don't add up. They didn't have enough Jews under control in any case and the census numbers were faked plus the Soviets hid the data as did the Israelis. All explained in the T Dalton survey as well as the Rudolf lectures.
poleGOD No.17952637 >>17952640 >>17952642
>>17952629
Read books made by HISTORIANS (the profession) and not pizzahut workers
>>17952632
Hatred kills people, hatred causes people to murder other people
>>17952633
>>17952622
nazis killed 6 million Jews from the 7,4 million they had under their control at some point so everything is OK
Anonymous No.17952638 >>17952645
>>17952631
Im a true Nazi and compassion is the last thing we leave behind as we are deeper thinkers and more real than anyone you know in the political sense.
Anonymous No.17952640 >>17952645
>>17952637
I don't know it's kind of hard to fault hating communists
Anonymous No.17952642 >>17952650
>>17952637
Those you refer to are poorly researched as they refused to chase down the Moscow archives when they opened. Only revisionists have led the research.

Don't even try to spout the 6 million. You'll embarrass yourself.
poleGOD No.17952645 >>17952646 >>17952655
>>17952638
I'm sorry for breaking your heart but you are a larper then
come back when you can murder a child for having Epilepsy or for talking in a diffrent language
>>17952640
see, much better, now go fantsize about murdering "comunist children" or whatever you do in your past time
Anonymous No.17952646 >>17952650
>>17952645
Wait why aren't you supposed to hate communists?
poleGOD No.17952650 >>17952653 >>17952659
>>17952642
I'm sorry but facts don't care about your feelings
>>17952646
Because comunism is the greatest thing that happend to humanity, duh
Anonymous No.17952653 >>17952657
>>17952650
But isn't it just some bastardized nonsense
Anonymous No.17952655 >>17952663
>>17952645
Epilepsy is easily managed. No nazi would euthanise an epileptic.

Communists are moral cowards with poor reading and misplaced wrath. A bit like you I suppose. Do you agree?
poleGOD No.17952657 >>17952658 >>17952661
>>17952653
nope
Anonymous No.17952658 >>17952663
>>17952657
Would you be able to know that yourself?
Anonymous No.17952659 >>17952663
>>17952650
You don't know any facts about this subject.
A yes, of course yours a commie. How did I guess?
Anonymous No.17952661
>>17952657
>nu-uh. It's totally the best thing ever
poleGOD No.17952663 >>17952669 >>17952697
>>17952655
>No nazi would euthanise an epileptic.
you guys are too funny, blindly declaring to be nazis without even knowing what does this mean
>>17952658
yeah
>>17952659
I'm not a commie or a jew or nazi, larping suits you more than me
poleGOD No.17952665 >>17952676
Anyway, since not single argument of mine has been disproved other than
>NUHU DIDN'T HAPPEN!
I will be leaving for today
Anonymous No.17952669 >>17952682
>>17952663
We're nazis. We know what it means. We read the books and persuade people to the cause every day.

If you're not these things then what are you? A faggot?
Anonymous No.17952676 >>17953319 >>17953966
>>17952665
I'll refute any holocaust claim offered and already did with the Judge Morgan factoid.

Bye. Don't go away thinking you've won the exchange. We all know you're just full of shit when you say that.
Anonymous No.17952680 >>17952717
>We're nazis. We know what it means. We read the books and persuade people to the cause every day.
Anonymous No.17952682 >>17952685
>>17952669
why would a Pole be a Nazi when you want us to be exterminated?
Anonymous No.17952685
>>17952682
That was then. Get over it. German nazis and polish nazis are friends now.
Anonymous No.17952697
>>17952663
I don't know you seem pretty dumb
Pakistani Bro No.17952717
>>17952680
The average tradcath keyboard crusader hating on brown and black people on his
Anonymous No.17952930 >>17953246
>>17952205
Yes, exsanguination has always been a rather effective means of death.

"Every patient stops bleeding....eventually." -Surgeon's Proverb
Anonymous No.17953246
>>17952930
Except that's not what he says.

What he says is that they didn't die of cutting their veins or of the blood loss associated with it, but cutting their veins reduced the time it took for them to die in the gas chamber.
poleGOD No.17953319 >>17953377
>>17952676
I don't consider you an enemy for me to "winning exchanges" i simply mock you for your impotent rage and desire to kill children
Anonymous No.17953377 >>17953918
>>17953319
Stop whining.

Post a holocaust argument, I'll refute it.
Anonymous No.17953443 >>17953453 >>17953915
>>17952315
> Here he says that there was a secret program whose evidence was lost entirely, but it entailed special detachments of soldiers going out to bombed German cities to kill German survivors by lethal injection.

Suchomel is not just making stuff up here: the transcriber gets it wrong. The word is not Brannt but Brandt:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_Brandt

>The concept of an β€œAktion Brandt” has been historically more controversial. In
1985 the political scientist GΓΆtz Aly supposed that Karl Brandt in his role as the
FΓΌhrer’s representative for the Sanitary Provision organised displacing
psychiatric patients to rural barracks so as to clear hospital beds for air raid
casualties. This implied centralised direction of the killings. The historian
Winfried Suess postulated that the administrative efforts to free beds was regionalised, and there is some evidence for transfer of psychiatric patients to
improvised accommodation.

https://radar.brookes.ac.uk/radar/file/8fdcd800-2223-4e54-9f22-4e49e45de987/1/weindling_chapter.pdf

Hard to find a lot of info, though.
Anonymous No.17953453 >>17953496
>>17953443
>it's totally happened
What about the mountain of evidence?
>well it must have happened since the evil nazis was so evil.
Anonymous No.17953483
>>17950320
based
Anonymous No.17953488
>>17952173
>Odilo Globocnik, who led Operation Reinhard, had a secret plan to kill every German soldier involved with the extermination camps (which must be hundreds of thousands).

You're trying your best, but you just don't know the sources well enough: this isn't just Suchomel's ravings, Stangl and Oberhauser also said that this was a rumour going around at the time. See Chapter 13 of Robin O'Neil's book on Belzec:

https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/belzec1/bel130.html

As for your "hundreds of thousands" claim, believe it or not, there weren't that many German staff at the three Aktion Reinhard camps e.g. the Majdanek museum estimates 92 in total. There were a few hundred Trawniki men helping.

Stangl and Oberhauser also corroborated that this rumour was going around at the time. See Robin O'Neil's book on Belzec for reference:

https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/belzec1/bel130.html
Anonymous No.17953496 >>17953583 >>17953836
>>17953453
>What about the mountain of evidence?

We are talking about Suchomel as a witness, right? You try to portray him as just some raving lunatic saying anything, and I pointed out that what he's talking about is discussed in other sources.

And its not a question of saying "Nazis are evil, here are some speculative evil things that people do"

How far do you take the denialism? Do you think that they didn't kill the handicapped at T-4? Do you think that's a 'myth' , too? If so, then why is it inherently implausible and discrediting to at least speculate that they had further euthanasia operations in the hospitals in the later stages of the war?
Anonymous No.17953583
>>17953496
>How far do you take the deniali
Depends on which pol ms pain infographic he reposts today
Anonymous No.17953836
>>17953496
Euthanasia by the nazis was entirely a possibility as they did commit to the T4 programme before retreating from it. And mercy killing of the most old and sick in the east in small numbers was also possible - this is attested by Mattogno.

But essentially the whole discussion of the matter amounts to;
>"Oh well ok, we can't show or prove a holocaust but we can give some indication of deeds that could be somewhat evil perhaps, therefore we can get people to allow the fantastic holocaust in also..."

Agreed?
Anonymous No.17953915
>>17953443
Again, that's not what Suchomel claims he heard.

He claims he heard that, after air raids, army detachments were secretly moving through the bombed areas and killing some of the otherwise healthy, psychologically sound survivors with lethal injections.
poleGOD No.17953918 >>17953972
>>17953377
I told you already, there is no point in aruging with a fanatic, I'm just here to laugh at your impotent rage and schizophrenic desire to murder children (everyone else seeing how deranged you are is just a bonus)
Anonymous No.17953955
>>17950530
>Why does AI say they're fakes?
Because somebody on Reddit claimed that.
Anonymous No.17953966 >>17954000 >>17954110 >>17956194
>>17952676
>I'll refute any holocaust claim offered
So when are you claiming this monetary reward >>17950360
Wait, let me answer that for you, never, because you can't and won't put your money where your mouth is. You don't actually believe that the Holocaust didn't happen, and neither does a single denier, otherwise they would have simply proven that at least 1 (one) single specific Jew was in fact deported as described in the reports made by the actual German government.
Anonymous No.17953972 >>17954003
>>17953918
You were here before me so that's not why you're here.
You posting after implicitly conceding everything for no reason but just to tell me you're laughing at me when you're clearly just butthurt is funny though. Carry on; pic are dead germans, did your grand daddy kill these people?
Anonymous No.17954000 >>17954148
>>17953966
Don't forget, there are also no accounts of the Russians or anyone running into these Jews who were deported East into Ostland, Ukraine, and the Russian territory held by Germany from the camps in the General Government either. There would have been some evidence of the mass resettlement of over a million Jews, no? Korherr himself denied the holocaust after the war and said he asked what Sonderbehandlung meant, and that he was told it meant being resettled in Lublin. But Goebbels says in his diaries they were being removed from Lublin >>17950442 and there were no Jews left in Lublin after the war. Korherr was either told false information by the higher-ups or lying.

So the elephant in the room for revisionists is where did those millions of Jews in the General Government go? They'll post ridiculous testimonies and fake survivor stories which indeed are very suspect but they're never able to answer the demographic data and what happened to these Jews. The Korherr Report says they were deported to the Russian East, Goebbels's diary says "deported East" means killed, Himmler says in the Posen speeches that they are killing the Jews. Doesn't really leave a lot of room for interpretation. At least we have one that can speak German though, most claim Ausrottung just means uprooting the Jews' influence and that umbringen means to bring an end to the power of the Jews, but he claims the Posen Speeches are fake like Rudolf does.
poleGOD No.17954003
>>17953972
I hope so, If i got my hands on nazis I would shoot them myself
Anonymous No.17954110 >>17954335 >>17955736 >>17955897
>>17953966

"Lohse’s reply (to Kube’s telegram) dated 5 August 1942: β€œI am afraid that I will have to refrain from taking measures, as the
practical realization of the solution of the Jewish problem is exclusively a matter for the police. The full responsibility for the orderly implementation of the measures is also theirs. You must under all circumstances prevent the concentration [Zusammenballung] of Jews giving rise to the danger of epidemics. I ask of you to point out in particular this danger to the relevant local authorities.”

MATTOGNO, KUES, GRAF Β· THE β€œEXTERMINATION CAMPS” OF β€œAKTION REINHARDT” page 579

Automatically proving that masses of jews were both being transported to these areas and then settled and NOT killed.
Anonymous No.17954148
>>17954000
What do you mean "doesn't leave alot of room for interpretation" ?

That's enough room for a coach and two horses at least and you fucking know it. You actually think this stuff hasn't been studied until you came along?
Anonymous No.17954165
LMAO I've literally already shown you /his/ fags both the actual deadly showers of Auschwitz and the reason Hitler invaded Poland. It's time you broke your conditioning.
Anonymous No.17954335 >>17954569
>>17954110
>masses of jews were both being transported to these areas and then settled and NOT killed
You will never, ever name a single one and claim your free $1000 though.
Anonymous No.17954488 >>17955723
>>17950202
>>17950442
>>17950360
>the evidence of genocide is a euphemism, a diary entry, and a census
>there's also a competition with unclaimed winnings
Anonymous No.17954569
>>17954335
Well a small number of individuals are named in these studies but I just hot you incontrovertible evidence that masses of Jews were so from the best type of evidence documents can provide.
Anonymous No.17955723 >>17955882
>>17954488
Why exactly is a diary entry of one of the most senior members of the German government is inherently illegitimate as evidence? Sure, it has to be part of a broader case is isn't beyond critique, but I don't see why you think referring to it as " a diary entry" is sufficient to dismiss it?
Anonymous No.17955736 >>17955882
>>17954110
>settled
Where? Also, can you post the whole document, including Kube's telegram? I don't think anything here even debunks the official narrative. Is this even about Jews deported from the General Government or local Jews who still remained in the ghettos?
Anonymous No.17955882 >>17955888 >>17955891 >>17955897
>>17955723
Because it's isolated

>>17955736
In the area of arrival the letter refers to.

I gave you the study reference. The book isn't hard to obtain like those 40 dollar university texts or some such.

It demonstrates as does the entire sections in more detail that Jews in fact passed through the AR camps rather than being gassed there which fits with the state of the hard evidence.
Anonymous No.17955888 >>17955892
>>17955882
>It demonstrates as does the entire sections in more detail that Jews in fact passed through the AR camps rather than being gassed there
where?
Anonymous No.17955891 >>17955897
>>17955882
The further reference given by the study is;

3428-PS, IMT vol. XXXII, p. 258.

3428-PS being the document code
IMT being international military tribunal volume
Anonymous No.17955892
>>17955888
The AR camps, ie Sobibor, Treblinka etc etc
Anonymous No.17955897 >>17955939
>>17954110
>>17955882
>>17955891
>THE β€œEXTERMINATION CAMPS” OF β€œAKTION REINHARDT
ah nvm it's just some more altright slop, for a moment i thought it was normal historian's work
Anonymous No.17955914
>>17951974
because LLMs don't see the letters of the word but tokens, most likely 'straw'=2315 and 'berry'=87611 or something similar, so they just go ahead and hallucinate.
Anonymous No.17955939 >>17955995
>>17955897
It's the best research, with the most detailed, footnoted and heavily researched. The authors are the historical researchers who accessed the moscow archives as soon as they opened when the wall fell. Being German and Italian this was obviously easily doable at the time.

No other historians on the planet can match these works which is why the other historians have been very quiet for decades.

You have every reference you need to check the veracity.
Anonymous No.17955949 >>17955995
Also the studies put pictures of the most important documents at the back of the books as well as maps, lists etc etc. Moreover if you contact them they will respond and if want to publicly debate these historical matters they will also respond. Aka they are the real deal.
Anonymous No.17955995 >>17956007
>>17955939
>>17955949
it's biased altright slop, you might as well post zoomer historian channel or Jake Shields twitter, they all have the equal value
Anonymous No.17956007 >>17956011
>>17955995
Revisionists research isn't biased. It addresses all the claims in details and the counter arguments. Orthodox holocaust research doesn't do this, nor does it properly source its claims or provide critical analysis. Revisionists even write lengthy esponses to serious objections as I just quoted you from above.

You clearly are unaware of the research so no one should take your words seriously until you do.
Anonymous No.17956011 >>17956041
>>17956007
>unaware of the research
i prefer shooting nazis rather than talk to them yes, but if you ever find a source that comes from a normal historian and not some college dropout thug then i will welcome it
Anonymous No.17956041 >>17956061
>>17956011
You don't have to talk to nazis just read the research.
Mattogno, Graf, Kues, Rudolf etc etc are scholars and scientists. They are more qualified than any current author and have done more primary document research as well as laboratory analysis.

You already welcome it as you've no objection to the work really. You're just pretending. We've seen this before.
Anonymous No.17956061 >>17956088
>>17956041
>scholars and scientists
they are as much of scholars and scientists as you and me and your granma
> you've no objection
i object nazism as its an ideology of murder racism eugenics and war, i don't need to argue with retards why murder or racism is bad
Anonymous No.17956088 >>17956106
>>17956061
They're literally scholars and scientists dude look them up.

Revisionists aren't Nazis, e.g. Rudolf is basically apolitical and more libertarian. In profession terms Mattogno is a catholic scholar. Arthur Butz is an Electrical engineering professor. Rudolf is a chemist. Faurrison is a literature scholar. Pressac was a pharmacist and Van Pelt studied art history and theology.

So what the actual fuck are you talking about?

National socialism isn't about racism murder and war, that's liberal capitalism and communism your thinking about.
Anonymous No.17956106 >>17956135 >>17956162
>>17956088
>scholars and scientists
nope, Mattogno is some writer fag who never was in college, the rest is so irevelant they don't even appear on google and i will not waste my time estalking them, Mattogno "organisation" also invited Hess son to do some dumb speech
so idk why you try to be sneaky about it, it's just makes people distrust you even more
Anonymous No.17956135 >>17956137 >>17956162
>>17956106
Most Holocaust research which seems to test its validity is entry level common sense and reasoning which the narrative can't handle.

When Jews were in these camps they would be roused from their bunks for morning drills and most Jews equate these drills to literal torture and murder, with overly fantastical circus events leading to people getting beaten to death or dropping dead from exhaustion.

Jews are just liars. These Jews that wrote these hot takes not only made money off of the book sales but were also receiving welfare from the German government for being survivors. Some of these writers are heavily connected to Israel and some are even the parents of famous pedophiles like Epsteins wife.
Anonymous No.17956137 >>17956142
>>17956135
why do you suddenly have a melty about jews
Anonymous No.17956142 >>17956153
>>17956137
I'm just pointing out that Holocaust authors which are verifiable liars are connected to the Israeli government
Anonymous No.17956153 >>17956155
>>17956142
Israeli government loves the denialist since they can point at them to justify their actions in palestine and merge any critique of their govorment with neonazis thugs
Anonymous No.17956155 >>17956161
>>17956153
Jews murder Palestinians without any input from the west. They're completely irrelevant retards
Anonymous No.17956161 >>17956163 >>17956165 >>17956171
>>17956155
only left cares for Palestinians, you just attempt to use a tragedy to spread your hateful ideology which only results in further detriment for Palestinian cause as nobody wants ot be associated with you retards
Anonymous No.17956162 >>17956172
>>17956106
Nope Mattogno is a catholic magazine writer as I wrote above. Basically a researcher and author.

All the other guys are just normal professionals and are more qualified in their fields than the orthodox authors.

You're disingenuous takes are transparent, ridiculous, lazy and cowardly. Call the ADL no one gives a fuck.

>>17956135
Exactly how it went. They would see steam in winter and assume gas and think up various ghastly torture methods and write them down.

Eli Weasel is a case in point.
Anonymous No.17956163 >>17956166
>>17956161
Technically Palestinians are more Jewish than the Jews
Anonymous No.17956165
>>17956161
Lefty liberals in the west enable Jewish power which enables the gaza genocide.
Anonymous No.17956166 >>17956167
>>17956163
thats why racism never really make sense and is only used as a propaganda targeted at the uneducated
Anonymous No.17956167 >>17956178
>>17956166
Racism makes perfect sense just not when it's a retarded kike Zionist larp
Anonymous No.17956171 >>17956174
>>17956161
Most Palestinians agree with us and disagrees with you. Hamas are literally our guys. Only people dedicated to saying to Jewish lies and murder can stand up to these people.
Anonymous No.17956172 >>17956208
>>17956162
>magazine writer
woha, i'm a 4chan writer so basically we are the same and it's my word aganist him, what now faggot
>normal professionals
nope, they are nobody faggots just like (you)
Anonymous No.17956174 >>17956208
>>17956171
Mudslimes are dysgenics and every day people should be praying for a holy war with the. But governments shouldn't willy nilly blow up ragheads and gooks for their geopolitical goals
Anonymous No.17956178 >>17956181 >>17956208
>>17956167
>Racism makes perfect
so it's okay to be racist aganist white people?
>Most Palestinians agree with us
lol
go spread the word that palestinias are all nazis, this will hurt Israel like hell
Anonymous No.17956181 >>17956185 >>17956190
>>17956178
Exactly. It's okay for you to be racist against white people. Modern society is very very racist against white people. Therefore don't go crying when white people chimp out
Anonymous No.17956185 >>17956187
>>17956181
>It's okay be racist against white people
you said it
don't chimp out too hard tho, your mother is already working hard enough to sustain you
Anonymous No.17956187
>>17956185
How's collapsing the entire western banking system sound and leaving third world countries like Israel to be cannibalized by desert people
Anonymous No.17956188 >>17956204
>Therefore don't go crying when white people chimp out
poleGOD No.17956190
>>17956181
I'm ready to chimp out
Anonymous No.17956194 >>17956198
>>17953966
You can't even produce a single shred of non altered evidence that points to an order to kill jews
Anonymous No.17956198 >>17956211 >>17956213
>>17956194
is there an order to kill palestinians?
Anonymous No.17956204
>>17956188
You think white people aren't awake to what the world and their own leaders are doing to them? The Israel Palestine conflict is nothing but a sideshow
Anonymous No.17956208 >>17956215 >>17956230
>>17956172
Uh you're a 4chan writer and you research and write like Mattogno?

LMAO
What now indeed faggot?

They're literally normal professionals and no one on earth has done better work or is more qualified.

Youre sperging now cus you're a retard who can't read and you ran out of argument.

>>17956174
A holy war with who? Jews?

>>17956178
Of course it's ok to be racist against white people. It's ok to be racist generally.

The lack of pushback again shows that the holocaust debate is utterly over. It's fake as fuck and not even its defenders actually believe it happened.
Anonymous No.17956211 >>17956219 >>17956230
>>17956198
Crazy how that has nothing to do with the holocaust industry we're discussing, jew
Anonymous No.17956213 >>17956230
>>17956198
No there is not.
Anonymous No.17956215 >>17956224
>>17956208
Why would people pray for a holy war with the jews? jesus was a jew. I think the mudslimes need about 5 more crusades to put them back in their bottle, starting on european soil.
Anonymous No.17956218
>>17951730
You mean like freezing a jew to death and smashing him to bits with a hammer?
Anonymous No.17956219
>>17956211
The jew feels seen.
Anonymous No.17956224 >>17956226 >>17956240 >>17956396
>>17956215
Jews are the enemy of mankind and far more dangerous to white people.

Getting rid of muslims in Europe isn't even necessary as there are far more Hindus and Africans who are Christians doing the actual crime and corruption.
Anonymous No.17956226
>>17956224
Jews are completely irrelevant losers though? Even Himmler only robbed them and put them to work
Anonymous No.17956230 >>17956235 >>17956254
>>17956208
>the holocaust debate is utterly over
don't trip on your piss bottles on your way out
>>17956211
so there is one or not?
>>17956213
i see....
Anonymous No.17956235 >>17956237
>>17956230
>so there is one or not?
If its real in my mind does that mean it's real or not? Think carefully
Anonymous No.17956237 >>17956243 >>17956250 >>17956254
>>17956235
I mean according to you genocide can't happen if there is not an order writen on the document to commence it
So is palestinian genocide real?
and if it is
Is there a proof of a writen document that orders it?
Anonymous No.17956240 >>17956254
>>17956224
>Jews are the enemy of mankind
why we shouldn't kill them then?
Anonymous No.17956243 >>17956246
>>17956237
Uh yeah what was the first document to give illegal alien psycho Zionists Palestinian land
Anonymous No.17956246 >>17956247
>>17956243
did it explictly order the genocide?
Anonymous No.17956247
>>17956246
Genocide doesn't exist, but there are documents created that lead to the removal of plaestinians by Zionists.

The funny thing is when the Zionists got to pissrael they thought jews were going to return to the soil like the amish. But actually they hired the palestinians whose land they stole
Anonymous No.17956250
>>17956237
So it was real in your mind
Anonymous No.17956254 >>17956262 >>17956266
>>17956240
Why would you want to kill an entire people just because they are the enemy of mankind?

>>17956237
Its as real as the holocaust, lemme guess you dont like the gaza genocide being so named because it hurts jews? How unsurprising.

>>17956230
Another admission of defeat. Pathetic.
Anonymous No.17956262 >>17956277
>>17956254
>Why would you want to kill an enemy
? why not
Anonymous No.17956266 >>17956269 >>17956277
>>17956254
>ou dont like the gaza genocide
but you just said that there is isn't any gaza genocide
Anonymous No.17956269 >>17956271
>>17956266
Interesting seeing the left use jewish word games against them. Haha, like ouroboros
Anonymous No.17956271 >>17956276
>>17956269
so there is one or not?
Anonymous No.17956276 >>17956281
>>17956271
If the jews deny the palestinian genocide (after forcing them out) I think they're going to have to deny the holocaust and the entire validating narrative that puts them in israel

or they will forever be a target of the left
Anonymous No.17956277 >>17956281
>>17956262
Because some people are innocent and have no involvement in these evils.

Your answer is how we tell who is a Nazi and who is a normie.

>>17956266
>>ou dont like the gaza genocide
but you just said that there is isn't any gaza genocide

"you dont like the gaza genocide being so named"

Not very bright are you? About 21 years old?
Anonymous No.17956281 >>17956283 >>17956290
>>17956276
so is there one or not?
>>17956277
>some people are innocent
how many Jews are not our enemies?
Anonymous No.17956283 >>17956287
>>17956281
It doesn't matter if something is real or not, clearly, we're posting in a holocaust propaganda thread
Anonymous No.17956287 >>17956289
>>17956283
you were the one who brought it first tho
so, is there a gaza genocide or not?
Anonymous No.17956289
>>17956287
There is a perceived gaza genocide that the jewish people will have to answer the left for

The snarling, biochemically augmented dysgenic left that the jews created
Anonymous No.17956290 >>17956293
>>17956281
Of course not, its more a massacre than a genocide but for our purposes it serves us to label it so in the great information battle.

>how many Jews are not our enemies?

About 2 million. Naturai Karta and the like, also include the children and the completely politically and culturally unaware. Its too difficult to separate these people so isolation and general and specific noticing is the best way forward for mankind.

Even you agree with this
Anonymous No.17956293 >>17956296
>>17956290
>About 2 million.
So the rest goes to gas chambers?
Anonymous No.17956296 >>17956299
>>17956293
No Isolation and noticing just as Hitler aimed at.

Im not sure what your problem is, everyone can see that this is reasonable.
Anonymous No.17956299 >>17956303 >>17956357
>>17956296
i don't get it, why not kill our enemies?
Anonymous No.17956303 >>17956307
>>17956299
Is a jew worth the effort to kill them?
Anonymous No.17956307 >>17956313
>>17956303
If he is my enemy who wants to kill my race etc etc then i think one bullet (around 5 cents) is fair?
Anonymous No.17956313 >>17956325
>>17956307
you don't think they'll shoot back? oh right apparently they walked off of cattle cars into gas chambers skipping the whole way

a pathetic people to be sure
Anonymous No.17956319
For the record in 1933 there were 3 million jews in Poland alone. 2.5 in western Europe and another 2.5 in Russia and another 2 spread between Romania and adjacent countries.
Anonymous No.17956325 >>17956327
>>17956313
>you don't think they'll shoot back?
are you scared of fighting our enemies?
Anonymous No.17956327 >>17956330
>>17956325
Scared of fighting jews? Is every dead jew on the battlefield proof that god exists or doesn't exist
Anonymous No.17956330 >>17956335
>>17956327
>Scared of fighting jews
Yeah, you just said to leave our mortal enemies alone cos they might shoot back
Anonymous No.17956335 >>17956342
>>17956330
Jews aren't our mortal enemy, they're just weak rat-like people with a propensity for degeneracy. Everyone's mortal enemy is themselves
Anonymous No.17956342 >>17956349
>>17956335
>ews aren't our mortal enemy, they're just weak rat-like people
then why care about them?
Anonymous No.17956349 >>17956358
>>17956342
they're a fifth column, and outside interest that prevents western political development. They're also in large part not legal citizens in the US since so many of them were illegal aliens until jews in congress gave them all amnesty in 1965
Anonymous No.17956356
Anonymous No.17956357 >>17956360
>>17956299
Because some are truly innocent.

Are you Jewish by the way? Thats a very jewish take. They usually want to exterminate everyone man woman and child.
Anonymous No.17956358 >>17956359 >>17956365
>>17956349
>they're a fifth column
then why not kill them
Anonymous No.17956359 >>17956361
>>17956358
Because we're not Jews ?
Anonymous No.17956360 >>17956366
>>17956357
>killing your enemies is bad
?
Anonymous No.17956361
>>17956359
So we are letting our enemies live and do whatever they want?
Anonymous No.17956365 >>17956367
>>17956358
Jews are so secretive about their movements and lies that simply exposing them is enough don't you think? Since they're pathetically weak and irrelevant?
Anonymous No.17956366 >>17956367
>>17956360
Is a child your enemy?

What kinda utter fag are you?
Anonymous No.17956367 >>17956379 >>17956817
>>17956365
>Jews are so secretive about their movements and lies that simply exposing them is enough
What stops them from from hurting da white people again if we simply expose them and don't do anything to them?
>>17956366
what about Jews that are not children
are they okay to kill?
Anonymous No.17956379 >>17956383
>>17956367
Jews can't hurt white people anymore, they played their hand in Germany and Russia
Anonymous No.17956383 >>17956387
>>17956379
>Jews can't hurt white people
you said it
Anonymous No.17956387 >>17956392
>>17956383
Right? Jews are weak and skipped into gas chambers. A people this weak could never hope to come back from their German and Russian coups
Anonymous No.17956392 >>17956395
>>17956387
>Jews are weak and skipped into gas chambers
you tell me
but why they are our enemies if they can't hurt us?
Anonymous No.17956395 >>17956396
>>17956392
I never said Jews are our enemies. If you believe what the Jews say about them they are weak irrelevant sheep in search of a shepherd
Anonymous No.17956396 >>17956403
>>17956395
>I never said Jews are our enemies
>>17956224 what about this post
Anonymous No.17956403 >>17956405
>>17956396
That's not me
Anonymous No.17956405 >>17956413
>>17956403
why you cut into our discussion then, thats kinda confusing yknow
Anonymous No.17956413 >>17956424
>>17956405
Because the other guy is probably retarded and this is my pissing ground
Anonymous No.17956424
>>17956413
fair point
Anonymous No.17956817
>>17956367
Why would a nazi just kill an innocent jew?

They didn't even execute the guy that assassinated their diplomat. LMAO