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Anonymous No.18075061 [Report] >>18075079 >>18075096 >>18075118 >>18075121 >>18075126 >>18075242 >>18075294 >>18075504 >>18075946 >>18076054 >>18077568 >>18077581
Crisis in the Kremlin, Save the Soviet Union
1982, Brezhnev dies, you are elevated to General Secretary, your job, save the Soviet Union and maintain it's Socialist character. As General Secretary, you have beamed into your mind by the alien space communist dolphins, the hindsight of your modern 2025 self. What do you do?
Rules:
>No restoration of Liberal Free Market Capitalism, at most state dictated.Capitalism like modern China.
>No dissolving of the USSR.
>No Baltic breakaway allowed, integrity of the USSR must be maintained.
Anonymous No.18075079 [Report] >>18075970
>>18075061 (OP)
>How do we fix this clearly broken and inneficiant system?
>And no don't give me actual solutions, like what China did
Anonymous No.18075091 [Report]
USSR would be likely still plodding around if literal traitors like Gorbachev, Yakovlev, Gaidar and that ilk weren't able to fall upwards to the top due to Andropov's diabetes killing him a year into the job. Andropovs reforms were already seeing pretty drastic improvements to the Soviet system. So realistically you can just be Brezhnev again and coast. Main thing you would need to deal with is Afghanistan.
If you want to improve the USSR. You would need to double down on Andropovs anti-corruption campaigns, probably reform the party to disempower the Кpacныe диpeктopa who basically ran the regions as industries as their own personal fiefdoms. Institute serious Marxist education and requirements for party membership, and then go crawling to china and beg for forgiveness.
I think also if you have hindsight, probably go all in on IT revolution since the USSR had the smartest mathematicians and programming scientists on earth and focus a lot of development on the far-east, particularly Vladisvostok since the Pacific is the 21st century. Use Warm water from Vladisvostok power plant to stop the bay freezing and it becomes a warm water port.
Anonymous No.18075096 [Report]
>>18075061 (OP)
Become natsoc
Anonymous No.18075118 [Report]
>>18075061 (OP)
Deport all Slavs to Siberia and repopulate Russia with Germans
Anonymous No.18075121 [Report]
>>18075061 (OP)
Purge the party
Rehabilitation of Stalin
Retvrn to planned economy, remove the "improvements" introduced gradually since Kruschev, try to do a 5 year plan to reorganise the economy (includes another purge, this time of managers)

Though if you simply wanted the country to survive then do some purges of libs and nationalists and leave it at that and it will be fine at least until you die.
Anonymous No.18075126 [Report]
>>18075061 (OP)
Copy Deng step by step, on the economy but also on his dealings with dissenters.
Anonymous No.18075242 [Report] >>18075257 >>18075288 >>18075971 >>18077788
>>18075061 (OP)
>Purge the fuck out of the party
>Reorganize the planned economy onto cybernetics so it stops being an inefficient piece of shit
>Allow limited Market Reforms like China but focus on cooperative development rather than traditional businesses
>Take away power from the individual SR's.
>Sign a treaty with the Orthodox Church.
>Put more funding into scientific development, make sure Chernobyl never happens
>Implement massive Wage Reform and Worker Self Management
>Try to develop greater trade relations with the west
>Reform the party in a way that means it won't need to be massively purged every 50 years
>Promote Pan-Eurasianism against America. Mention the Great Replacement as America's plan for Europe or something.
>Stop being a retard when it comes to China
>Promise a Soviet Moon base by 1992, and a mars landing by 2002
Anonymous No.18075257 [Report]
>>18075242
>>Promote Pan-Eurasianism against America. Mention the Great Replacement as America's plan for Europe or something.
Marxism has fully adopted third-worldism as part of their "anti-imperialism" brand by then, it was too late.
Anonymous No.18075288 [Report] >>18075632 >>18075778 >>18075962 >>18077788
>>18075242
No point trying to work with Western Europe on anything. They pathologically hate Russians on a deep instinctual level. Even when Gorby and Yeltsin were treated like absolute dogshit by their Western peers. Putin himself used to be a Westaboo shill but broke out of it when he was told by Clinton "Russia is too big", basically outright saying Russia needs to break up into smaller states for any trust to be possible.
Look at NATO expansion or the functional dissolution of the OSCE or Helsinki accords or even more recently the Minsk accords or the NATO-RF treaty in 08. Westerners don't respect Russia or Russians so they don't think they should have to respect agreements, only Russians should have to respect them.
Russia's biggest mistake since the time of Ivan is always being giant fucking westaboos trying to get European approval, when in reality the Russians should have always looked towards Asia and tried to keep their hands on Alaska.
The only Western country Russia I believe can sort of have decent relations with is France and that is largely due to shared animosity and history in regards to Germoids and Anglos and a lot of cultural exchange in the 19th and early 20th century.
Anonymous No.18075294 [Report] >>18075473 >>18075634
>>18075061 (OP)
LOL. You think some nerd from the future can unfuck 70 years of terminal Marxist-Leninist brainworm? COPE.

The entire system is a gerontocratic zombie-state running on stolen grain and copium. Your "reforms" will get you couped by the KGB or the military the second you touch the Party's privileges. The nomenklatura IS the problem and they won't let you reform them out of existence. The only way to "save" it is to keep the boot on the neck of 200 million people who hate you, which just makes the eventual collapse even bloodier.

Your plan is to do a China? WITH WHO? You have no Deng, no disciplined CPC, just a corrupt party of alcoholics overseeing an economy of perpetual shortage. It's over.
Anonymous No.18075473 [Report]
>>18075294
This is why you first need to get the KGB and Red Army on your side.
My impression was the Red Army was always the most pro-Stalinist/Communist anyway so probably the easiest to get on your side.
Yes, Nomenklatura is the problem and yes the USSR needs to get rid of them, it honestly shouldn't be that hard though since Gorby engaged in the largest scale purges the USSR ever saw and pretty much noone was able to stand up to him despite being a brazen fucking open traitor along with Yakovlev and Gaidar and that lot.
>is to keep the boot on the neck of 200 million people who hate you
The vast majority of the people were pro-Soviet and pro-Communism. The dismantling of the USSR was largely the result of Red Directors and literal traitors like Gorbachev who outright wanted the USSR dismantled and Socialism defeated.
>My ambition was to liquidate Socialism, the dictatorship over all the people. Supporting me and urging me on in this mission was my wife, who was of this opinion long before I was. I knew that I could only do this if I was the leading functionary. In this my wife urged me to climb to the top post. While I actually became acquainted with the West, my mind was made up forever. I decided that I must destroy the whole apparatus of the CPSU and the USSR. Also, I must do this in all of the other socialist countries. My ideal is the path of social democracy. Only this system shall benefit all the people. This quest I decided I must fulfil.
>I found friends that had the same thoughts as I in Yakovlev and Shevernadze, they all deserve to be thanked for the break-up of the USSR and the defeat of Socialism.
>Gorbachev
Anonymous No.18075504 [Report]
>>18075061 (OP)
Reintroduce the NEP and state capitalism
Rehabilitate Stalins image
Purge the party of corruption and useless functionaries/traitors. Put the Red army in charge of the matters of state.
Stage a fake assassination attempt where nationalist terrorists try to bomb a children’s hospital to justify a crackdown on splitters.
Go around the country reigniting patriotism in the youth by calling pro-western parties gay pedo sodomites like modern Russia does
Anonymous No.18075624 [Report]
Rehabilitate Stalin.
Start rebuilding New Moscow.
Anonymous No.18075632 [Report]
>>18075288
This. Fuck all westoids.
Anonymous No.18075634 [Report]
>>18075294
>be apu poster
>infantine 70 iq retard
every time
Anonymous No.18075778 [Report]
>>18075288
Anglo-German imperialists are pure evil
Anonymous No.18075946 [Report] >>18079140
>>18075061 (OP)

Start a nuclear war with NATO to put this failed experiment of a country out of its misery with one final apocalyptic hurrah
Anonymous No.18075962 [Report]
>>18075288
>why do Western Europeans recognize Asiatic-Bolsheviks for the racial bedlice that they are
Anonymous No.18075970 [Report] >>18075974
>>18075079
Historically communism was a 10/1 ratio of oil to iron production. Here are the figures for 1970.
Oil tons
Ussr 350m
Iran 190m
Algeria 48m
Angola 6m
China 30m
Egypt 5m
Coal
Ussr 770m
South Africa 100m
China 300m
North Korea 10m
Iran 1m
Iron (pig iron)
Angola 6m
Ussr 100m
Iran 500k
Algeria 100k
South Africa 5m
North Korea 2.5m
China 23m
Egypt 400k
Angola hit the ratio from growth. Cuba got it in 2000s. Kerala has it if you include trade.
Ratios
Communist
Ussr 10
China 10
Egypt 10
North Korea 4 plus aid
Not
Iran 1000
Algeria 500
Angola 1
South Africa 20
So it's a ratio, coal higher.
France was 10m coal in 1870 and 100k iron. By 1910 it was 30m coal 300k iron. Then it stayed around 1m iron and it crossed the ratio in the eighties but then the industry collapsed.
Germany was 1m iron 1885 40m coal, 10m/100m around the time of the german revolution, then iron crashed and coal stayed high. Uk was 1mt iron in 1880 and 200mt coal. It was 10mt in ww1 iron. It hit the ratio going down also but then the industry collapsed.
Anonymous No.18075971 [Report]
>>18075242
>Reform the party in a way that means it won't need to be massively purged every 50 years
>just do good things and don't do bad things, bro
Anonymous No.18075974 [Report]
>>18075970
new schizo thesis dropped! keep it up schizobro
Anonymous No.18076054 [Report]
>>18075061 (OP)
Given Prussia independence
Anonymous No.18077568 [Report]
>>18075061 (OP)
bump
Anonymous No.18077581 [Report]
>>18075061 (OP)
Oh. Wow. So hard mode then? Chinese state market capitalism with limited personal property rights. Crack down like a ton of bricks, Stalin purge style on the militant KGB elements and any hard liner who starts to make noises about a coup becomes fill for a new railway foundation. Cancel all the goofy military expansion shit save for maintaining nuclear capacities and ground forces. The navy and carrier fantasies are over save for the submarine service. Everything else goes into consumer goods. Perestroika on steroids with a focus on ending corruption, theft, graft, and bribery. Leave Afghanistan the first day. No retarded safety tests on a nuclear power plant in Ukraine. Continue to fund the space program and work to advance things like consumer electronics and computers. Oh. Also. Try to play nice with China and India still but otherwise we’re done with foreign adventures until the quality of life for the average Soviet citizen eclipses the west.
Anonymous No.18077788 [Report]
>>18075288
Very obvious when by any reasonable historical context, Germans should be the most hated people in Europe, but Germans were rehabilitated before even WW2 ended while Russians, who saved Europe (and even handed over functionally Italy and Greece to the West) instantly became the enemy despite Stalin thinking he would be forever besties with the Brits and Yanks.
>>18075242
>Reorganize the planned economy onto cybernetics so it stops being an inefficient piece of shit
Genuinely believe the USSR would have "won" the Cold War if the Ministry of Finance didn't make it's move against Cybernetics because they feared it would move to the TsSU to a more important state role than them.
Internal Government reports in the US also agree with me btw, they were terrified of the OGAS project and it was thought it would seriously leapfrog the USSR as the premier world economic power by a "tremendous" margin.
Genuinely Brezhnev was the wrong person for the job. While Gorby is the counter-revolutionary who destroyed Socialism and sold his people out, it was Brezhnev who basically saw any attempt to improve the Soviet system, even improving GOSplan as not worth it.
Anonymous No.18079140 [Report]
>>18075946
Now I want to know when was the best time for the Warsaw Pact to go to war with NATO and win.