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Anonymous No.18079171 [Report] >>18079289 >>18079313 >>18079839 >>18079854 >>18080716
>typing "Bible" into reddit and reading the top results
Anonymous No.18079181 [Report] >>18081569
Anonymous No.18079187 [Report] >>18079341 >>18079388 >>18079440 >>18079503 >>18079839
I genuinely don't know how Abrahamics can stand to pretend that their texts are actually interesting in any way. My dad is a fundamentalist pastor and growing up all I ever heard was bible, bible and more bible. And it's exactly as that redditor says. It's boring as fuck. Like any other "revealed religion" it's concerned with giving rules, laws and some history. And all of it is extremely boring mind numbing shit. Revelations stands out as being more or less the only part that is actually interesting and spiritually stimulating in any way.
It's always astonishing to me when I see people recommend the Bible or speak in its favour as a literary text. It is a boring garbage book. If you believe it is correct, it is valuable as a set of rules. But beyond that it is completely pointless. Even the psalms that show occasional flashes of brilliance upset the stomach with their constant seething and railing polemic against the world and against unbelievers.
Anonymous No.18079289 [Report] >>18079402 >>18081133
>>18079171 (OP)
It's true though, 90% of the interesting stories are in the first quarter of the OT, at least half of the OT is literally just the Jews coping about getting beaten up by the Babylonians, then a lot of dick riding of the Persians for beating up the Babylonians for them.
Anonymous No.18079295 [Report]
Am I supposed to pretend he’s wrong because it’s from the no-no-bad-website?
Anonymous No.18079313 [Report] >>18079337 >>18079345 >>18079753 >>18082014
>>18079171 (OP)
I'm not going to explain it to you, because not explaining it to you is one of the more important aspects of your road to discovery, but...
> there is a message in the Bible, and it's not the message you have been taught
> it's obscure, until you figure it out, at which point it becomes so obvious that you wonder how you never fully saw it before
> eventually you realize that the reason it is not taught (other than 3/4 of the preachers not understanding their own religion) is that the other 1/4 realize that free will prohibits them from coming out and saying it.

Chew on that for a while
Anonymous No.18079337 [Report]
>>18079313
You are retarded.
Anonymous No.18079341 [Report] >>18079348
>>18079187
it's psychotic and boring. Thank ZEUS the Iliad has survived, infinitely more human infinitely more readable
Anonymous No.18079345 [Report]
>>18079313
>you have to dedicate your life to obeying the commands of a genitally mutilated pharisaic rabbi mohel jew
>it's superduper esoteric though, only for the real hipsters
>you won't understand it at first, so you have to keep investing in it until sunken cost prevents you from leaving
>your reward? you'll get it after you die, goy
Anonymous No.18079348 [Report]
>>18079341
Praise be Zeus the Saviour.
Anonymous No.18079349 [Report]
The christian writhes as he continues to split the supposedly hidden true message from what everyone else sees in the bible
Anonymous No.18079357 [Report] >>18079375 >>18079376
So hes not a Christian because it was a 'boring' read? Thats his basis on if he should accept a document as reality or not?
Anonymous No.18079375 [Report] >>18079381 >>18079391 >>18079399
>>18079357
The quran at least has a comedy element to be fair
Anonymous No.18079376 [Report]
>>18079357
i would assume that the central point is that ultimate cosmic truth could not possibly be trite mundane banal bullshit. really a lot of people today lament that christians don't read the bible, but what is there to read? the core of it can be perfectly summarised in about a page, listing the ten commandments, some other rules on christian conduct, and the whole jebus died for your sins so just beg him to let you in the magic kingdom thing. hell, all you need to be saved is to accept jesus anyway so probably even this is too much.
Anonymous No.18079381 [Report] >>18079398
>>18079375
This is actually a part of the Quran?
Anonymous No.18079382 [Report]
A lot of stuff in the Bible only start making sense once you read Quran
Anonymous No.18079388 [Report] >>18079409
>>18079187
>My dad handed me the truth on a silver platter
>I decided to reject Jesus and hate the Lord
You're going to the lowest Hell. You fully deserve it, too. I recommend you kill yourself.
Anonymous No.18079391 [Report] >>18080734
>>18079375
>six or seven
Anonymous No.18079398 [Report]
>>18079381
One of the less retarded parts of it too.
Anonymous No.18079399 [Report]
>>18079375
>there are still 6 or 7 marks present on the stone from that excessive beating
The prose is something out of Sonichu
Anonymous No.18079402 [Report] >>18079423
>>18079289
Yeah that’s the point.

The first 5 books contain so many of the popular stories because those books are the first part of the larger story being told. In those first 5 books God creates and delivers his chosen people. The rest documents the history of them failing again and again to live up to that legacy gifted to them.
>Joshua shows an Israel subjugating the whole of Canaan, but in reality is heavily biased to make themselves look good, just like other ANE war texts, like the Mermepthah and Mesha Stelae
>Judges is the sobering opposite side of the coin, revealing the attempted conquest as inadequate, leading to hundreds of years of cycles of Israel falling into sin and being sent judges to discipline them and save them from total subjugation, only to fall back after each judge dies
>The books of Samuel the last judge of the book’s name anointing a king on God’s behalf to rule his people, only for things to go sideways with political deceit and turmoil in establishing a monarchy over the land
>the books of Kings show what initially appears as a bright future, but even the divinely appointed king’s line fails and the monarchy fractures in two, entering a slow but inevitable decay as both sides’ kings ignore God’s prophets and institutionalize idolatry and other evils, leading to the collapse of both kingdoms and the destruction of their Temple and nation
>every other historical book is sayings of the prophets who were ignored by the kings, telling them to turn things around before they are destroyed, ranging from righteous fury to questioning despair to hope of redemption even after destruction
The seeming boringness of the other books is you skipping the point. There are interesting narratives in the other books, but the lack of epic stories of saving God’s chosen people is deliberate. God saves his people, but then his people must choose to stay by him. Being the chosen people means they must also choose him as God, and they blew it.
Anonymous No.18079409 [Report] >>18079419 >>18079422
>>18079388
I am grateful to my dad that he taught me the glory of the Lord and the value of truth. That's why I left Christianity.
I don't know where I am going but I sure am glad it'll be a different place than wherever people like you are going.
Anonymous No.18079419 [Report] >>18079431
>>18079409
>I am grateful to my dad that he taught me the glory of the Lord and the value of truth.
>That's why I spit in his and the Lord's face by HATING Jesus.
Cool story.
>I don't know where I am going
I already told you: You're going to experience unspeakable agony in the lowest Hell, forever. >but I sure am glad it'll be a different place than wherever people like you are going.
That will last for about 5 seconds after you take your last worthless breath. I'll have fun watching your torment from the comforts of Heaven. Complete trash.
Anonymous No.18079422 [Report] >>18079426 >>18079449
>>18079409
>I am grateful to my dad that he taught me the glory of the Lord and the value of truth.
>That's why I spit in his and the Lord's face by HATING Jesus.
Cool story.
>I don't know where I am going
I already told you: You're going to experience unspeakable agony in the lowest Hell, forever.
>but I sure am glad it'll be a different place than wherever people like you are going.
That will last for about 5 seconds after you take your last worthless breath. I'll have fun watching your torment from the comforts of Heaven. Complete trash.
Anonymous No.18079423 [Report] >>18079700
>>18079402
More like the first part is shit they made up and the rest is them coping with the reality of being a tin pot kingdom surrounded by bigger fish.
Anonymous No.18079426 [Report] >>18079434 >>18079461
>>18079422
>levels of hell
another retard who thinks dantes inferno is part of the bible, many such cases.
Anonymous No.18079431 [Report] >>18079461
>>18079419
I worship the same God I always did, I just don't worship Jesus or use Christian ideas anymore. If there really is one God who made all this, he is the one God with or without Christianity. I honour the Lord. I just don't think Jesus has anything to do with him, which even a small amount of rational thinking will immediately confirm.
>I'll have fun watching your torment from the comforts of Heaven.
Don't be too sure. The Bible seems to imply that even vile worms and sadists can enter heaven by just asking Jesus really nicely. But I am not sure how convincing that is, friend.
Anonymous No.18079434 [Report] >>18079440
>>18079426
TBF Dante's Inferno is an improvement and more in line with traditional cosmological ideas. Can't blame 'em.
Anonymous No.18079440 [Report] >>18079450 >>18079488 >>18079921
>>18079187
Bible is required to understand European literature
>>18079434
Demonology is made by demons for demons worshippers
Anonymous No.18079449 [Report]
>>18079422
>from the comforts of Heaven
Baptists don't get to go to Heaven.
Anonymous No.18079450 [Report] >>18079478
>>18079440
>Bible is required to understand European literature
Not really, at most you need two line summaries of the garden of Eden, Cain and Able, Jesus' crucifixion and maybe a couple more. And that's it.
>Demonology is made by demons for demons worshippers
1. No it isn't.
2. Dante's Inferno is NOT demonology.
Demonology is just medieval books classifying demons in various ways. Some of it is grimoire work (used by demon summoners), some of it is actually compiled by exorcists, and some of it is created by men of letters (Milton's Paradise Lost).
Anonymous No.18079461 [Report] >>18080792
>>18079426
Another retarded rodent trying to correct its intellectual superiors. How unbecoming.
>>18079431
Those flames just got hotter.
Anonymous No.18079474 [Report] >>18080792
>Another retarded rodent trying to correct its intellectual superiors. How unbecoming.
Anonymous No.18079478 [Report] >>18079485 >>18079975
>>18079450
>Not really
Yes really, if you read a lot of European literature and you see something that seemingly appears out of nowhere and makes 0 sense, it's most likely a Bible reference or from other work that was inspired by the Bible, things you you said only applies to the most mainstream stories and proverbs
>Dante's Inferno is NOT demonology.
if it is about demons then it's a demonology, DO NOT write about demons, DO NOT think about demons
Anonymous No.18079485 [Report] >>18079492
>>18079478
>DO NOT write about demons, DO NOT think about demons
not even Beelzebub? :(
Anonymous No.18079488 [Report] >>18079492
>>18079440
>newfangled jew book is required to understand European literature
nah senpai
Anonymous No.18079492 [Report] >>18079502
>>18079485
the anime was funny
>>18079488
you will never be a human being
Anonymous No.18079502 [Report]
>>18079492
wait i thought watching anime is a sin
Anonymous No.18079503 [Report] >>18079522 >>18079980 >>18082995
>>18079187
>My dad is a fundamentalist pastor and growing up all I ever heard was bible, bible and more bible
>turns around and becomes an atheist because his dad wants him to join the family at church instead of role-playing as an orc in WoW on Sundays.
Many such cases.
Anonymous No.18079522 [Report] >>18079529
>>18079503
That's nothing. My parents made me get haircuts and limited my video game time. Despite the fact that all my friends could play as much XBox as they wanted. They tried to have the """Pastor""" tell me that it was """wrong""" and a """sin""" to disobey my """parents"""... I could see right through the hypocrisy... It's all a system of social control. A vicegrip around human potential, all for the sake of letting old people maintain their grip on power long after they've passed their primes... THAT is the crime for which I'll never forgive humanity...
Anonymous No.18079529 [Report] >>18079777
>>18079522
Right on, man, right on. Neitchze was right.
Anonymous No.18079700 [Report] >>18079720
>>18079423
>More like the first part is shit they made up
Even in the first five books we see the beginnings of Israel’s inability to live as God’s chosen people. The books of Exodus, Numbers and Deuteronomy record numerous incidents of the Israelites, having just been miraculously delivered from Egypt by the hand of God himself, complain that they’ll die out in the desert and had no faith the God that delivered them from Egypt would take care of them on their journey.

They complain about water and he gives them water from dry stones. They complain about food he gives them bread that falls from heaven. They encounter enemies in the desert and God delivers them in battle. Yet they still deride this God that performed for them the impossible, and stage rebellions against his prophet Moses, wanting to kill him so they can make their own idols in place of God and worship the gods of their enemies.

Now imagine going through that same cycle of rebellion and ungratefulness for 40 years. Moses was at his wit’s end dealing with the sin of the people, to the point of commanding wiping out entire tribes without God’s permission. Even the patience of God himself was tested to the point of almost unleashing the fullness of his wrath against such an ungrateful people. Yet they persisted, sojourning through the desert as nomads until a new generation could reach the promised land. And even with a new generation it didn’t take long for things to fall apart.

No priest or scribe would write of their ancestors, the chosen people of their God, being so callous and desiring to harm their greatest prophet, unless those episodes were impossible to paste over or cut out of their otherwise glorious origin story. That’s part of why I believe it wasn’t made up to cope with the Assyrians or the Babylonians. If that were true then they would’ve never let those horrible scenes of sinfulness be so integral to their origin story. Self-criticism makes for poor propaganda.
Anonymous No.18079720 [Report] >>18079726
>>18079700
>four paragraphs of coping about how it isn't coping
Anonymous No.18079726 [Report] >>18079740 >>18080809
>>18079720
>no rebuttal
My point still stands: self-criticism makes for poor propaganda. If you want to prove that I’m wrong you’re gonna have to try harder than that.
Anonymous No.18079740 [Report] >>18079819
>>18079726
>self-criticism makes for poor propaganda

No, it makes for perfect propaganda when your goal is to bring people(yes even your own people, in this case the jews) to a heel and follow the priest. Christianity does this when it posits you're a sinner from the beginning.
Anonymous No.18079753 [Report]
>>18079313
> eventually you realize that the reason it is not taught (other than 3/4 of the preachers not understanding their own religion) is that the other 1/4 realize that free will prohibits them from coming out and saying it.
what is it?
Go on, take one for the team. God surely will forgive you ( unless that's part of the secret lmao )

Also
>free will
>prohibits
So an infohazard, then?
Anonymous No.18079777 [Report] >>18079985 >>18080721
>>18079529
>“Play more videogames and don’t cut your hair” - Nietchze.
Anonymous No.18079782 [Report] >>18080727
This part is kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp6jPXoWvM0
Anonymous No.18079819 [Report] >>18080999
>>18079740
Self-criticism isn’t the same as YOU being criticized.

There’s a big difference between a priest saying “You are a sinner, repent and worship our god or rot in hell!” and “Our priests come from a line of rebellious sinners that did our job so poorly our Temple was destroyed by our enemies out of divine judgement!”

Why would you choose to give your devotion to a religion that admits its failings so openly, and more importantly admits that they themselves are at fault?

Self-criticism IS self-defeating as propaganda. A messy, immoral history that keeps repeating itself for a thousand years is the worst advertisement for a religion, and that’s what makes the miracles actually believable. If the people the miracle is for tell you that their ancestors saw it with their own eyes, benefitted from it greatly multiple times over and STILL rejected the miracle giver, that’s more realistic than a tidy history of blind devotion for a thousand years ever would be.
Anonymous No.18079839 [Report]
>>18079171 (OP)
>>18079187
>reading the bible front to back
Its not a novel lmao of course they got frustrated and bored.
Solitaire No.18079854 [Report]
>>18079171 (OP)
>I got to Revelation and it was like a new religion
k. I dont think he read even the major prophets then lol. probably just skimmed the start and end of the new and old testament.
Anonymous No.18079921 [Report] >>18079950 >>18080713
>>18079440
Of all the Touhou reaction images, why that one with Marisa wearing a weird outfit and the Sanae gyatt? I've seen you post it several times in the past few days
Anonymous No.18079950 [Report]
>>18079921
Two Who
Anonymous No.18079975 [Report] >>18080713
>>18079478
I will sacrifice to Belphegor and there is nothing you can do about it.
Anonymous No.18079980 [Report] >>18082995
>>18079503
Playing WoW is better use of time than hearing for the millionth time that Israel is US's greatest ally and you need to donate now.
Anonymous No.18079985 [Report]
>>18079777
Based Nietchze.
Anonymous No.18080713 [Report] >>18080728
>>18079921
it's my favorite one and Sanae is hot
>>18079975
the numbers wil drive you crazt
Anonymous No.18080716 [Report] >>18080828
>>18079171 (OP)
Reddit! We all hate Reddit don't we! Haha! Reddit Reddit Reddit! (Why do we hate Reddit again?) Haha Reddit Reddit!
Anonymous No.18080721 [Report]
>>18079777
amor fati, no?
Anonymous No.18080727 [Report]
>>18079782
this video is exactly why zoomers are converting. the algo is dressing up christianity as a "vibe", a piece of media to consume in an era where your consumption allegedly defines you as a person. and then absorbed by the trannyhater gymbro meta
no wonder they argue for christianity like retards on this board
Anonymous No.18080728 [Report]
>>18080713
>Sanae is hot
lust is sin
Anonymous No.18080734 [Report]
>>18079391
Truly some "rock or something" type shit.
Anonymous No.18080792 [Report]
>>18079461
>>18079474
LMAO
Anonymous No.18080809 [Report] >>18080999
>>18079726
>self-criticism makes for poor propaganda.
Unless your propaganda hinges on the notion that god punishes the people for not following the law (which you happen to be the arbiter of)
Anonymous No.18080828 [Report]
>>18080716
We hate Reddit because Reddit, duh, you'd know this if you weren't constantly Redditing like a Redditor
Anonymous No.18080999 [Report]
>>18080809

See >>18079819
Anonymous No.18081133 [Report]
>>18079289
That's because Genesis is the tale of the different falls of Mankind and the reason behind the Covenant God makes with Abraham.
Adam and Eve sin, and introduce death into the world.
Adam's son, Cain, murders his brother Abel, introducing discord amongst men.
The daughters of Eve introduce physical degradation of the body by laying with fallen angels and birthing the Nephilim.
From Noah onward the constant, if progressively less apparent, degradation of the Human condition continues in the background, as explained by the narration. Mankind tests God, most reject Him as the curse of tongues hit them, and go on to form their own nations, praising the Fallen Angels that appeared to them yet again rather than their own Father in Heaven.
At this point, Mankind is virtually teethering on the brink of complete isolation from God, which would lead all of them to die with no hope of persistence beyond their flesh.
The Covenant was God's *temporary* solution for this. God *reluctantly* concedes animal blood as an alternative physical price to pay to your own blood, on the caveat that the people chosen by Him to carry out this Covenant abides by a strict set of laws; gentiles, meanwhile, have only the Noahide Laws to abide to.
God, however never intended this to be the method by which Mankind as a whole was to be saved from the grave. God sent Prophets throughout that Covenant to announce someone Daniel call "like a Son of Man", that would sit on a throne on the right side of God after coming out of the clouds of Heaven, and descend on Earth to rid the world of the inescapibility of sin and lay the foundations of the Earthly Paradise to be, when God would literally come down on Earth.
The reason why the Old Testament is boring beyond the Primeval Gistory is because it is a mix of historical records, laws and prophetic messaging that are all essential to each others to keep each other in context.
Anonymous No.18081569 [Report]
>>18079181
The book of Job has a dinosaur
Anonymous No.18082014 [Report]
>>18079313
Is it a message God directly says?
Anonymous No.18082995 [Report]
>>18079503
Actually church is where the real role-play is at. If you've been there, you must know. It's just people putting on airs - from the religious leaders all the way down to the born again types. Every other day mama and papa do whatever the hell they want, but when it's church time, suddenly they become little angels, and so will their kids, whether they like it or not. Because we gotta impress the other families.
I am also not an atheist.
>>18079980
Also this lol there's not much new material at church. You got there for a few years and you'll know all the sermons by heart. And none of them are even good.