If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates or howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

>Cool teachers
Glenn Vilppu
Michael Hampton
Steve Huston
Brent Eviston
Marco Bucci
Andrew Loomis
George Bridgman
Hikaru Hayashi

>Cool books
Keys To Drawing
Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way
The Art and Science of Drawing
Framed Perspective
Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
The Complete Guide to Drawing From Life
Last: >>7628898

i know what i need 2 get better, im just a slow ass learner (the answer is i need construction and perspective which I hate doing and have only studied for . 7 days and didn't even use today, rip)
ive improved a lot since last year but plateud like mad for a few months depressingly
anyways mindless moe doodlers

reposting Deerbros cute soft cheeks !

>>7631026 (OP)
Am I hallucinating? I don't remember any of these drawings from last thread

>>7631038
file

>>7631026 (OP)
>Using age old OP instead of the newest talentGOD
Cursed thread.

>>7631040
very cute drawing anon

>>7631037
>Only 7 days
That was more than enough for talentGOD and he started literally last week.
What is your excuse? Are you even trying?

>>7631026 (OP)
It has been a while since I've drawn anything.

>>7631043
uhhh it's because breaking bad habits is a lot harder than forming new ones desu if you never draw with perspective or construction you build up faulty neural pathways that are hard to write over, it's why you have to do stuff correctly from the beginning or you develop a bad foundation
correcting my problems with line was more important than learning construction, so i did that first
>>7631040
<3

outline is everything

basically, my biggest issue was line and then 3d perception, so I needed to learn better line quality before I could move on to 3d simplification and construction and so forth
the other thing is I can foreshorten, I just can't construct, so I can foreshorten in some capacity by eye, and foreshortening by eye actually heavily interferes with learning construction desu because it's two different procedures
>>7631054
good work

>>7631026 (OP)
wasted thread, our sacred humiliation ritual has been degraded

on the discord pawell said he will not draw anymore
it's over, pawellbros...

>>7631071
pwoof?

>>7631071
Bullshit

>>7631071
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

speaking of pawell, I figured out what pawell problem was
it was the same as mine. when he copied books, he was copying, not understanding, just drawing it from observation instead of breaking it down
pawell.. my brother... i miss you. we could've done it together.....

>>7631071
>no screenshots
I don't believe you.

If your portfolio is on github you're giga ngmi.

>>7631077
pawell did not draw for more than an hour every two days
pawell did not enjoy drawing

>>7631086
there's a lot of days where I don't either but I'm prone as fuck to tendonitis

THREAD CHALLENGE

>>7631091
But you ain't prone to that when playing games all day don'tcha'?

>>7631071
>no proof
Fake and gay.

>>7631093
c-c-c-cute...

>>7631098
pawell hasn't drawn in over a year...

>>7631095
oh god no I haven't played vidya in months to preserve my drawing hand lol and I already dual hand a lot when drawing I just watch YouTube or read

>>7631071
you lie!

What did you expect? You can't become an artist without talent.

>>7631071
>>7631076
>>7631103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ-3B7UZX6I

>>7631108
i mean I've made like 250usd off commissions the past few weeks and I suck

How am I doing so far chat?
>>7631112
Genuine question, not trying to take a shot here but do you draw tumblr, hazbin hotel stuff or do you do something normal

This became clear after a year of pointless attempts, I don’t know why anons here believe in work so much.
>>7631112
You either drew nsfw, or you're lying that you suck, or you're lucky, a lot of artists don't get paid

>>7631112
that's because you're cute

>>7631093
idk something like this

I don’t like the mouth or the flying fish still

>>7631071
what discord

noodles

In /fig/ anons have minute sketches on the level of their figures of shit, although it can't even be called something connected, my drawings are just gray biomass that people look at like a puddle after rain...

Give it another try. You don't have to draw the whole fish again or even erase anything, you can draw the mouth off to the side

>>7631144
they didn't know what I look like
>>7631115
furry

>>7631026 (OP)
Here we go. Please help me identify any glaring mistakes and I really really hope she is not yellow.

>>7631174
where do you get people to com you furry stuff?

>>7631185
discord

>>7631044
I'm might be wrong but if she's not sitting completely sideways then shouldn't her thigh be visible from this angle?

I hate drawing, it's crap, it only brings hatred...

>>7631186
damn. need to find me some furry servers

>>7631189
Brother stop drawing under your epic purple gamer LEDs from Temu and get some real lighting

>>7631195
These are not LEDs, I change the tone and brightness in Gimp, otherwise you can't even see the garbage in the picture, although this is also pointless, no one cares about this crap

>>7631151
I'd have a few things to say about construction but unfortunately I've already edited you as the seething salmonjak

he stole the outfit
(perspective, my worst point)
>>7631040
squishy squish

>>7631045
i can draw penis but not a box to save my life

>>7631164
nice noodle

>>7631205
geg

>>7631207
i find that perspective is just stupidly hard to learn for some reason. thanks, you too

>>7631212
np ":3
yeah its like,
the head is supposed to be smaller than the leg
and that just does Not want to click in my head
maybe i can circumvent it if i practice with boxes or circles or smth more

>>7631216
yeah, it's definitely about playing with simplified forms and hard when you haven't done it from the start. really wish i could go back in time sometimes lol

>>7631026 (OP)
It's an honor to be in OP with other anons but I realize that it won't always be the case but that's okay because when it does happen it's nice :)

copies/studies

Nothing worked again, fucking nonsense, nothing ever works

more doodle

Is it difficult to bring yourself to draw nude figures I drew my teacher Mrs Andrew’s naked once and got into a lot of trouble at school and my parents beat me for it so I don’t like to draw penis anymore it’s to traumatizing

bit off more than i could chew here, the sword hand is a little off and the other hand is kinda wonky

>>7631226
same, i wouldve spend more time trying to learn the actual fundies early on instead of gooning mindlessly

now i gotta do it the reverse way

>>7631026 (OP)
I stopped drawing for a few weeks because my whole drawing was hurting. I restarted to draw last week, but I noticed that my hand was shaking the time I'm drawing. I don't drink coffee or tea.
Am I fucked? ;_;

>>7631298
yeaaah same lol I just never thought something id make money off of would come from my goon hobby

yo gang how do yall draw anime and shit like that, imma become an artist like akira toriyama

>>7631302
its so easy. just look at anime and figure it out dude. if you cant do something as basic as this ur nigmi

tomorrow will add some lights idk

1hr torso study

>>7631278
cleopatra?
>>7631284
looks fine to me
>>7631289
cute, keep going
>>7631306
nice work on the line weight. shes missing a strap though

i keep animating boxes spiralling around the horizon line

>>7631289
some fixes was supposed to be a girl chin was way too masculine

Sharing....

>>7631329
Looks even better with clothes, WTH

this is what the inside of my head looks like

>>7631337
>having an obese gay man inside your head

>>7631341
What do (You) have inside your head anon?

How does one colour like this? what tools/brushes would you personally use to get this look?

>>7631341
he's actually bisexual

>>7631342
tits and infinitesimal calculus

>>7631344
not a thing

>>7631332
I understand what you say! It's an interesting phenomena. A shame as I tried rendering the tummy well.

>>7631346
elves aren't real men, so he's basically straight.......

>>7631343
Get into a time machine, and set the timer to 1998.

>>7631026 (OP)
Hands from life. Any crit so far ? Top isn’t finished yet obviously

>>7631350
maybe get a new piece of paper instead of drawing over other drawings

>>7631349
Done. Now what

>>7631306
This is nice but the thumb is a bit incorrect anatomically. It isn’t possible for the base of the thumb (the section under it that connects to the wrist) to flatten as i you’ve drawn it. It moves a lot, but the thumb itself is what has the most flexibility

>>7631353
It’s a sketchbook so I’m trying to fit as many drawings onto the page as possible, plus I just like it that way. Drawing over other drawings is completely normal

You begs should focus on basics and don't waste time with colors for now.

I've chosen the path of perpetual torment

>>7631364
ok but how do i colour like >>7631343 i'm happy enough with my lines for now and im tired of drawing sad grey blob men and women

>>7631353
most retarded post i've seen all day

>>7631368
these look good though

>>7631369
copy the work until it's automatic for you

>>7631373
ahhh ok, I was gonna do this but i was worried there was an easier method i was ignoring. well now that I have your affirmation i'm gonna get to it, thanks anon

>>7631348
So the fat elk guy is always the active fucker? You may be right then

>>7631378
he prefers it that way or idealizes it that way, even if it doesn't necessarily apply in artistic practice

>>7631341
i remember when the deer was posted so often he started living inside MY head

>>7631383
i hope to make a doujin of him and the drow guy once I get better at construction/3d/dynamics, it's my burning drive

>>7631384
do you really need construction? i think you already have a good grasp on how to draw the human figure

>>7631344
being bisexual is gay

>>7631386
just a way to stream line it so I can do more interesting poses and proportionate accuracy. idk maybe after finish this pose practice run I'll start my doujinshi..... just gotta get a bit better/more confident and I'll give it a go

also I need to learn backgrounds a bit or at least a rough form of backgrounds but this course is helping a lot, perspective grids are soooo helpful

i love drawing sexy men so much

>>7631395
Are you one of the females in the board?

>>7631401
who else draws men on this board

>>7631026 (OP)
Life drawings

>>7631026 (OP)

done.
sleep well /beg/

>>7631115
is his head supposed to be tilted up or straight on?
the lack of tilt on the eyes or and the jaw make me think it's straight, but the ears being that low would be something you see if the head was tilted up further

new kino just dropped

right leg should be shorter but I think it looks better that way.

>>7631165
the pitcher and left bottom corner poses are nice, twisting poses are tough great job. you need to start drawing bigger and try to render one of those poses you did, have an echorche at hand.

>>7631350
keep going,

>>7631093
awful reference, but catears

>>7631343
for colors is about learning how to see color and their relationship with other colors for example you will start noticing how much cyan there is in that image but it will look grayish because the background and buu are very red/fuchsia. basic lighting understanding and for technique soft round brush at 73 or 50% fixed opacity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsMBCIetiR0

Resources I like:
how-to-see-color-and-paint-it arthur stern
any book about josef albers
Hornung, David - Color _ a workshop for artists and designers (2012, Laurence King Publishing)

>>7631037
your work have kinda the same vibe as of jasmine darnell or mayuringo_14 I think you will improve if you focus on drapery for some time.

>>7631329
at least for me it shows a little bit more perspective on the left tit.

>>7631428
I'll study drapery then ty

>>7631301
thats based and trad
just be careful not to burn out

>>7631093
Little sketch, the outfit looked dumb so I changed it.

This is what I worked on today.
I don’t love her face, it’s hard to find a difference between cute and sexy

>>7631443
how long have you been drawing for?

>>7631443
I meant “a balance between cute and sexy”

>>7631445
Casually since I was a teenager, seriously for a few months

>>7631443
Bruh

>>7631443
this is bait

Sentencing myself to 200 years of terrible gesture scribbles for my negligence

>>7631453
>>7631455
It's not bait
What do you dislike about it?

>>7631456
BRUH

first try
>>7631437
cutie

I also want to have some talent.
Do you think God would give some to me if I ask really really hard?

>>7631443
It is not good, but there's some kind of innocence to it, something genuine, like you are trying to capture your lost innocent.

>>7631350
I'm really interested in what your non-life drawings look like

>>7631490
lol. Here’s something random I did a few years ago for shading practice . Obv isn’t finished but I’ll return to it one day

>>7631499
Looks cool. So you stick to only life drawings nowadays?

>>7631505
Yeah, like 90% of my work is life as of now. I’ll use a ref photo every now and then though, or mix the two if need be

>>7631499
you're really amazing

anyone have any good references for cute houses? everything is ai on Pinterest

>>7631509
lol thank you Anon, I really appreciate that

>>7631499
this is great
i've been considering getting a toned sketchbook if i can find one but i'm so comfortable with just using pencil to do everything that i'm afraid to try using to ink for the darker tones and colored pencil (i'm guessing it's colored pencil?) for the highlights

>>7631519
no problem, it's the truth

>>7631510
Google maps?

>>7631524
Thanks Anon. And it’s actually a white gel pen. I think you should give it a shot. It will definitely be challenging if ink and toned paper are new to you, but experimentation is really important to grow as an artists . you’d be surprised with what you can create with a different medium when you challenge yourself.

I haven't done one of these shitty quick fountain pen sketches in a while I think
>>7631506
Still trying to work my way up to being able to sketch people in their daily life. I think this skill is really undervalued nowadays but man is it hard to learn

>>7631538
beautiful animals

>>7631538
I really like your sketches. Very nice forms.

I would bet that you could draw from life well based on what I’m seeing here. It’s very difficult but trust me, when it pays off, it pays off well. You’ll bust out a ton of stinkers at first but it’ll be worth it. If it makes you feel better here’s one I did a few months ago that’s obv /beg/ as fuck, but it’s good to get those bad drawings out of your system. Have you ever considered doing life drawing at a zoo or something similar? Since you like to draw animals

>>7631524
Ink is a great medium for learning other skills. For me it helped me build my speed and make more decisive lines. I really should do it more often since I'm focusing on graphite right now and I think it's building bad habits
>>7631543
Thanks
>>7631546
This is sick

>>7631546
very cool

>>7631546
Fire as fuck. What paper?

>>7631548
thanks
>>7631549
thanks
>>7631550
just normal paper

>>7631510
what do you consider a cute house?

>>7631499
which white pen are you using? I have an acrylic one but is very messy and and dries way too slow. the kid looks cool.

>>7631546

>>7631553
Sakura gelly roll.

new talentchad just dropped

>>7631547
I did do some zoo stuff about 3 or 4 weeks ago and I also sketch passerbys when getting high on my patio. I can sometimes come up with a nice silhouette or gesture but the fine details of human subjects still eludes me. I guess it's a matter of building up my short term memory? I have noticed since I started stuff at the zoo and people watching from my patio that I've been able to remember more features about something from a quick half-second glance.

>>7631561
This is really nice! And yes maybe it is

>>7631561
love these
>>7631553
cottages n such old fashioned buildings i saw lots of beautiful ones in Europe but was too retarded to draw buildings

>>7631566
I would search for spade houses or Edwin Lutyens on wiki commons, or ask gpt for architects with the type of architecture you are interested in and search on wiki commons.

>>7631554
thanks

Posting this here, simply because I can.
/ic/ seems to be doing as usual.

>>7631598
victim of pillow shading i see

>>7631598
Cute

>>7631304
aight thx i been looking at anime for a long ass time so ill just draw

>>7631598
Very cute Karma, how have you been? Have you finally escaped your homeland?

I'm a total beginner who happens to have an ipad, apple pen, and procreate. I started trying and following videos like pic related and I can't believe how it's actually possible for me to make pictures (paintings?) like this. on one hand, it almost feels like it's cheating with certain brushes that automatically create a design. at the same time it's motivating to create really cool images that I would think would take years for a normal artist. is what I'm doing essentially fake art?

>>7631665
No rules only tools (as long as you are not using AI you should be alright.)

you know what sucks, i'm starting to realize I don't like the actual art of 99% of the people who post art tutorials on youtube.

>>7631692
If they were actual good artists they would be working in the industry or selling premium courses for corporations, not making free tutorials on youtube to begin with, no?

>>7631694
most of them do concept art for blizzard and shit, but I don't really like their art at all, it is not bad but I just don't feel anything when I look at it, and example of this is marc brunet

>>7631692
it blows whatever "art" you make out the water so maybe you should start following some. pyw if otherwise

>>7631696
that's because he just draws the same face and body over and over

>>7625722

i dont really like this one, should i redo it?
https://litter.catbox.moe/yqdt23kv6mk6jkrc.mp4

>>7629072
why didn't anyone attempt the femboy challenge? it's a good prespective ref I think, the guideines are right there
>>7629111

>>7631692
me neither so I made my own style

>>7631343
what you need is a basic understanding of forms and a soft round brush

looking for crit
its practically done but something looks off

>>7631756
>>7631760
I love your stuff so much.

>>7631757
nice neesan just needs a few tweaks
adjusted the left arm a little, made the head a bit smaller and the torso slightly longer

>>7631756
>>7631760
the God of Forms, I kneel

I got tired of doing pencil drawings so I’ve been doing quick sketches on post it notes using a sharpie. They’re fun but I’d like to learn more tips about using markers like sharpies. Any good place to start?

>>7631770
The light direction makes no sense therefore the shadows make no sense. This is what happens when you freestyle lighting without proper light knowledge
>>7631692
Same, but i dont think it sucks. They like what they like and they enjoy themselves doing it, and im happy for them. I like what i like and i enjoy doing it. Where we overlap is they know what i want to know

>>7631787
i wonder why

>>7631778
thnx qt
looked at the ref a bit more and tried to fix it
kinda fucked up the whole titty before which threw me off

>>7631787
why does the light direction not make sense

How do you guys feel about Ryou Imamura? Specifically the way he does hands

>>7631808
I think he’s a pedo.

done with this
>>7631756
>>7631760
goat
>>7631770
>>7631789
dont think using AI as a ref is going to give you accurate lighting which may be the issue here.
>>7631808
he explains it well

>>7631809
have my reddit gold, good sir!

>>7631799
The light direction on the folds is different from the direction of light on the face and fist. Its the top one when it should be the bottom. I mean look at the large gash of darkness on those armpits. There's nothing motivating that

>>7631093
any non-coomer challenges?

>>7631849
i got you

>>7631850
s-so fast!

non-coomer male challenge
>>7631853
im not op just happen to have a lot of references

>>7631093
terrible ref, way too much photoshop

i think i finally fixed the face
https://litter.catbox.moe/957imdga1pfxw3jv.mp4

I just wanna draw brown tomboys in various sportswear...

>>7631867
...what is stopping you?

>>7631871
90% decrease in twitter interactions

>>7631871
I can't do them justice yet

Tomboynigger crying again. Just draw I'm so tired of these micro attention whores.

>>7631876
but I didn't even post my blog or share a drawing, can one be an anonymous attention whore?
who's tomboynigger btw? surely you don't mean tomboychad, he's pretty content with what he's doing

>>7631180
head's too small and don't do hair like that

>>7631880
Stop posting for attention, go draw. Howie

>>7631889
ok sorry

>>7631873
Oh no. You're now only getting 1000 likes per image compared to your usual 10 000. Most begs here get like 10-100 likes with their images. 1000 would be the holy grail for many of us. Get a grip dude

Do you think you will pay me to teach you how to draw? Or am I too beg to be teaching?

>>7631902
>Do you think you will pay me to teach you how to draw?
no
>Or am I too beg to be teaching?
yes

>>7631902
you were good 2 years ago, dont know what you did in the mean time but youve obviously regressed

>>7631789
>>7631810
buying into the stigma of ai usage is retarded, idk why everyone on this board does it.
besides, the ai image i used was not even what i referenced to decide where to put the shading/ lighting, i only used it for anatomy and proportional guidance since i couldnt find a non-ai reference to use.

>>7631924
you couldnt find a dude with his hands up? lol

>>7631926
shes a woman
and no not really, i used the photo for reference on the hair and clothing as well.

>>7631945
>shes a woman
anon... i..

>>7631902
might be harsh, but you're simply not good enough to teach
but stuff like that is flashy enough to get some /beg/s to think that you are good enough to pay you to teach them.
if you have any dignity, you shouldn't take advantage of the poor /beg/s who don't know any better.

>>7631957
super super super cool

>>7631960
thanks

>>7631902
why are the lines antialiased like that? you must have fucked up downscaling this
in any case a simple portrait like this still having fundamental issues means you are probably not good enough to teach

>>7631093
Ref is total ass (derogatory), formless lighting and I didn't have fun. Not even going to try to fix dogshit face

>>7631093
I did draw, but just the pose :T

>>7631093
Lmao. Those boobs are fake as shit. She is wearing that fake boob thingy. Garbage reference with tons of photoshop.

>>7631972
The angle is different. Maybe you could try drawing it with the same angle?

>>7631093
for some reason this is too unappealing for me to draw but this is why I don't do most of the challenges
>>7631902
i mean the bar is low but i would get a bit better at fundamentals and proportions/color theory and then you can sell at this point it's less likely people will buy because of the rules of conventional appeal
if you had the same piece and changed the proportions around to have more conventional appeal to normies + works on your metal rendering possibly, it's not bad just doesn't appeal to the person you'd want to sell to
>>7631957
beautiful work
>>7631969
the face is great, body is wonky but so is the reference. good job
>>7631972
aizakino
>>7631864
very nice
get into golden kamuy so you can draw sugimoto
>>7631760
i was anxious that the femboy was a minor

>>7631979
Don't make aiza-anon use that garbage ref a second time. That one is not worth studying.

>>7631979
Yeah i noticed, but i dont feel doing it again

>>7631922
The difference is between CSP and Photoshop, I been drawing on CSP now, so all the colors different, even linework. >>7631967
I downloaded in from deviant.
>>7631982
Cool, but I sort of like to create unique things which is a problem.

>>7631987
I'm the same way, and similarly even if I got significantly better people probably wouldn't want me to teach because I draw very weird. sometimes you have to learn a degree of like, generalized appeal to be able to attract an audience like that And you're a lot closer to being able to take on generalized appeal than I am. and you're a lot closer to being able to take on generalized appeal than I am

it turns despite my fixation on my lack of ability I've actually been able to draw boxes/cubes for a long time and the problem that was making me think that I couldn't was actually that I was putting the vanishing points way too close together. creating a lot of distortion that made them look wrong, but they were actually right if you accounted for too close together vanishing points. if anyone is having that issue where their boxes look very distorted, try moving the vanishing points farther out or imagining them farther out

seeing technical "improvement" but no drive to do personal work until I get good enough

Can anyone redline this for me, please? I think I'm particularly lacking in the ribcage interactions, specifically making it look good in a 3D space. I'm curious about how her boobs look like they're "floating" when I'm used to seeing tips about how the boobs should drop down following the ribcage's curve

>>7631889
>Calling Favelachad out of anyone here a Howie
Peak Kruger. Fucking nigger.
>>7631873
Boo fucking hoo. I know several way more talented artists in this shithole who get happy just breaking 100 likes and draw just for the love of it instead of making traced slop of slop coomer girls in white void for likes slop.
>>7632009
pyw nigger.

>>7632018
The whole pose has been nerfed, her right leg is jutting out so hard, the s curve of her torso flowing down to her hips has been reduced to a very shy diagonal.
It's ogre.

>>7631093
An attempt has been made. I'll have to practice facial features a lot more (unsatisfied by hair and face but time was up) + the whole color/shading process.

>>7632024
no

>>7632029
Also, i'm aware the right shoulder strap/breast connection to the shoulder is off and i curled the right hand when it was supposed to wrap around the torse. The left strap is falls too in, not to mention no definition on the stomach except thze bottom. Legs connection goes too high and "overcurve" at the hip connection. Not to mention the lack of the fat bulging on the upper leg.

>>7632029
11 days into drawing btw

what resource did you use to learn all this talentGOD?

>>7632038
he most likely has a job that involves mathematics

>>7632018
Her boobs float because her boobs aren't real.

And no one comments on my attempts, it's a pity
>>7631276

>>7631276
It's some solid work anon, keep it up.
Just remember the body's halfway point is close to the crotch.

>>7632029
>Not even two weeks in
>Already has good copying, observation and even shading.
>Mogs literally anyone else here, in /dad/, in /asg/ and /sex/
>Niggers here will keep denying that talent exists while legends like tealbro, redblobfag and this guy show how above the rest they are.
I think I want to hurt myself.
>>7632041
Retarded opinion.
>>7632047
>>7632050
Because you are a talentless permabeg who isnt even worth replying to.
The whole thread could hold your hand, redline you and push you through courses and you still wouldnt learn and nobody bothers replying to your dogshit because no one wants to bet on a losing horse.
You are somehow even worse than the permabegschizo.

>>7632036
Now that i'm looking at it more, the hair on the left side of the face meets the jaw too. Mine is too in. Also forgot the panty side strings, the right arm is askew and too thin at the base, and the right side hip to torso is too thin and right arm too out.
It's a complete mess now that i think about it.
Tomorrow's gonna be simplified forms of anatomy then.

>>7632038
Regarding which part in particular?
For anatomy, i've found morpho simplified forms on internetarchive and have been both reading and occasionally drawing from it, trying to form an idea of its usage in my head. Thats basically it. I didnt look into shadows or colors in particular but i've read recreating colors is a good exercise so i did. The shadows/light i just tried to see from the image and then sketched it onto the lineart (thats why double lineart text) with blue and red, then smeared it until i was somewhat satisfied.

>>7631093
BOOBA
>>7632018
the viewing angle is a little lower, I'll try to help you soon

>>7632055
Bruh what happened in the crotch area

>>7631093
ok but you asked

>>7632018
I think what is missing is a sense of weight on the fatty parts.

is it really true all you gotta do is copy bridgman cover to cover

>>7631026 (OP)
Does anyone have any good tips for getting accurate and equal spacing of things like fingers?
Hardest part of hands for me is dividing the fingers (excluding the thumb) into 4 parts, because it's a small enough space that measuring with your pen is too hard, but also it's too many divisions to use the "Draw an X through the plane to find the middle" technique. Only other thing is using a ruler, which is too tedious if you're doing 5 min studies.

Hell if there's a good tip for this, it would be useful for a lot of things, actually.

>>7631876
that wasn't me

>>7631982
Yes :)

fucked this up unbelievably badly but oh well at least I know what I did wrong for the future, I need to measure shit out before I draw for weirder poses

Consistency, reusability, and expressionism are still huge problems in AI, so unless it's a oneshot, I don't see it as a production ready product. But I'm impressed by how well it retained the sketch's core characteristics, even in a super rough draft. Looks incredible useful for bg rendering.

>>7631924
Just do your thing. The stigma will eventually go away. Before this, it was 3D models > computer graphics > photobashing/compositing > photography > paint pans/tubes, etc.

>>7632018
I think you're interpreting the torso as a single unit, when it's actually two masses joined together by skin and muscle. Try doing it again, but sketching it as two separate masses first. Do it multiple times...

>>7632029
keep going, your effort is paying off.

>>7632055
yeah, the X shape around the inguinal area is a very odd choice

>>7631902
>Do you think you will pay me to teach you how to draw? Or am I too beg to be teaching?
teaching is a tricky subject. It's not just about the teacher's proficiency, I would say it's more about whether you can help me solve the problems I'm going to encounter. what value are you adding?
a good example of this is producers. Take Rick Rubin, zero skill in music, but he's really good at removing roadblocks. If you can do that, I’d buy your product.

>>7631306
Good shit

>>7632091
wow i just lost all respect for you as a person

>pro AI
>gives other people advice while being objectively shit
classic

>>7632091
excellent bait post, you should reach for a cops gun.

>>7632029
Face is horrifying but good work otherwise. Anything in particular you want to draw or are you just looking to have fun with the process?
>>7632018
Along with what other anons said about fake boobs, there are some scenarios where the boobs won't (or won't appear to) drop down like they usually do. Push-up bras or other clothing can make them appear to defy gravity and when the muscles attached to the breast are being flexed it can have the effect of lifting the breasts up.

>>7632096
TalentGOD is being mentore by AI while mogging everyone in this board. What is your next cope?
>>7632091
>>7632098
>Good work
>keep going, your effort is paying off.
Quite the underatatement considering his "effort" isnt even two weeks worth of drawing.
What can even be said about permabegschizos like the Aizafag, Deerfag and Pawell who draw draw and draw day in and out for years and still cant grasp basic 3d or colors while this guy gets it in a day?
FUCK YOU NIGGER.
FUCK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU

>>7632099
deerfag is actually pretty good at coloring

>>7632099
Woah. Why you gotta bully aiza like that. Not cool man

>>7632100
lmao i'm starting to think this is a meme now, everytime deersis is mentioned as incappable of anything

>>7632099
I've gotten a lot better at 3d this week desu i think i just wasn't focusing on it enough due to laziness
I'm not mathematically minded so things that are mathematical don't come naturally to me
I'll prob be pretty alright at 3d in like. 3 months or so if I keep studying desu, it's improved a lot just from actually grinding on it
i think its rlly how much effort u put into it

>>7632099
>Crabbing on pawell
Don't speak ill of the dead

>>7632100
ye I can color i just don't i could color before i could draw
>>7632103
3d i definitely suck at but its just trial and error
tbf i never spend longer than 10 minutes on a drawing
people just like to crab me bc i struggle a lot with perspective

>>7632052
Nigga you are mind broken. He literally wrote there that he traced body, picked colors and the only part he drew himself - face - is abysmal.

The first time I didn't increase the contrast, I just traced the hand drawing with the mouse. I usually don't add emotions to the figures, this is just a small exception, I don't know why. As a result, the torso and pelvis are fine, one elbow looks a bit fat, the hand doesn't reach the right breast, otherwise it's not bad, it's a pity that now I have to go back to shitty figures... I would like to draw more meaningful and finished drawings, this is the first of them.

>>7632099
what is the talent tier list

u can schizo over how untalented i am as much as u want but i will still make more money on it than u ever will probably honestly

>>7632110
new permabeg schizo just dropped

Any tips on shading hair and not have it look like its made with a gradient tool.

>>7632029
>tracing the ref first
it's funny i gave this advice many times but it was called a shit advice, and yet people will still babble about talent lmao
it's not about training, it's about smart training
watch dbz niggas

>>7631982
>sugimoto
this guy looks handsome, i am interested

>>7632018
here's what I think goes on under the clothes
>>7632055
slight changes

>>7632026
I noticed that, but man it's such a weird thing for me to not want to overexaggerate poses and end up underexaggerating them instead. Being braver with them seems like a point of improvement for sure. This one is better, right?

>>7632091
>I think you're interpreting the torso as a single unit
That's what I wanted to address with this practice, hence the ribcage focused questions. I wanted to understand how the ribcage interacts with the lower torso because I feel like I haven't been giving enough space beneath the ribcage previously

>>7632070
Can you elaborate?

>>7632055
>>7632117
Cheers, that's an interesting insight

>>7632098
I thought about that, which is why I was hoping someone could show me how this angle of the ribcage affects how we perceive boob placement. I can understand why we can only see the underboob, I'm just curious how the other parts interact with the ribcage at this angle.

>>7632111
Gulp

>>7632111

>>7632123
Uh oh

>>7632123
nooooo

>>7632098
Yeah, the head was pretty bad. I'll probably switch most of the gesture to eyes, noses and mouth tomorrow.
I dont have anything specific i want to draw yet. I guess a comic would be interesting to do but thats long term.
If it counts, i like Jiro Matsumoto's style and would like to also learn how to draw like the guy, but it feels like stylization is something i should be doing after knowing/being able to draw properly.

>>7632007
Master Heretic, I dared to use your divine forms as ref to do a humble study. Thank you for sharing your beautiful work with us mere soulless begs

>>7631164
You're becoming a renaissance artist, beautiful noodles Deerbro
>>7631278
I like this one, looks like a grown up Mathilda in Paris
>>7631306
Lovely face!
>>7631310
Nice studies! Saved!
>>7631329
I totally love this, it is true, looks better with the hot dress, SAVED.
>>7631437
The simplicity of this doodle enhances the appeal and hotness of the figure and pose. Saved.
>>7631490
EXCELLENT
>>7631756
7631760
You're the best ever
>>7631864
WOAH! Look at those clothes, the folds! The folds in the crotch area and the sleeve of the jacket! It's like watching an Olympic athlete doing a perfect move and getting the perfect score.

>>7632078
Study from life

>>7632109
I traced it, simplified it then redrew the entire body by referencing the simplified trace body (which is why it has inconsistencies). The face is the poorest part, i agree as i mentioned.

quickies
>>7632132
thank you!

>>7632132
>WOAH! Look at those clothes, the folds!
youre too nice to me peril, love ya :3
any ideas for a new comic yet? i really enjoy reading those!

>>7632123
Where does everyone else rank. Like for example tomboyfag

>>7632115
word, but most people here just want social interaction outlet, they aren't really interested in drawing.

>>7632110
if you only have a mouse instead of a tablet, use the quadratic bezier tool. It's called differently in most software, arc tool, spline, curve tool, etc. This is what’s usually used in animation clean-up.

>>7632120
>That's what I wanted to address with this practice
Then why are you using a reference that doesn't clearly show what you want to learn? Don't make things harder for yourself, bridgman's book has great figures that exaggerate the torso. Then use a nude reference, and lastly, go back and try the reference you originally chose.

>>7632142
this thread is retarded and thinks all artists who produce anime shit are significantly better than they are. /ic/ epidemic. so a functional chart would be impossible

basically everyone on ic has a functional inability to understand what defines practical skill because of stylistic bias. you often praise artists who aren't practically very good and can't see ones that are because your brains are tattered by anime

>>7632143
>Then why are you using a reference that doesn't clearly show what you want to learn?
Fair point, I just found the pic to be a pretty good muse to motivate myself to actually draw. I knew torso segmentation was a weak point of mine and I wanted to see if I can improve that part with this reference

Happy 4th of July, burgers! (Happy Friday to everybody else ig)

>>7632117
you're good as ever

trying new things

>>7632143
>>7632115
>Just trace bruh
And how the fuck is that supposed to teach anything but tracing?
I am not learning how to construct, I am not learning how to sightsize, I am not learning how to build bodies from imagination.
This must be some elaborate troll or long joke because literally every single fucking teacher on youtube, gumroad or shit will tell you to never trace.
Even the Bargue plates teach you how to sightsize, measure and correct angles based on observation instead of tracing.
You pair of niggers are trolling other untalented faggots because you can make literally anything fucking work out of sheer talent.
Same bullshit with Vilppu who comes out with esoteric random bullshit that only work with people who can think in 3d and anyone else is shit out of luck.
God I am so fucking close to going postal.

>>7632142
S+ talentGOD
S tomboyfag
D permebagschizo
F this guy >>7632099

silly quick scribbles

>>7632177
Whew. Didn't get ranked.

i draw way too fast I need to slow down I don't think I've ever met anyone who draws as fast as me. the power of autism

GOD I ALSO WANT TO BE TALENTED INSTEAD OF WASTING MY FUCKING TIME BEING SHIT.
I AM TIRED OF SEEING OTHERS PUTTING IN ONE HUNDREDTH OF THE TIME TO GET A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER RESULTS.
I AM TIRED OF HAVING TO REFERENCE 3D MODELS.
I AM TIRED OF HAVING TO TRACE OVER SKULLS BECAUSE I CANT DRAW FACES WITHOUT GUIDELINES.
I AM TIRED OF MY SKETCHES NEEDING 3 PASSES BECAUSE I CANT MAKE APPEALING SHIT ON THE FIRST TRY.
I AM TIRED OF BEING UNABLE TO DRAW FROM IMAGINATION.
I AM TIRED OF BEING A REFERENCE SLAVE.
I AM TIRED OF TALENTFAGS SHOWING OFF AMAZING DRAWINGS IN THEIR SKETCHBOOKS THEY MADE WHILE ON THE BUS OR SHIT AND SAYING "JUST A DOODLE".
I FUCKING CANT.
I ALSO WANT TO BE GOOD. WHY THE FUCK CANT I BE GOOD
DO YOU ENJOY SEEING A GROWN ADULT DRAWING WORSE THAN A SPAZTIC TODDLER.
PLEASE GIVE ME TALENT I AM BEGGING YOU. LET ME FOR FUCKING ONCE DRAW WELL

>>7632175
it's easier to see lines than forms, the exercise is to trace the ref then trying to remake it, i used to do this when i first started, and when i took Seoji's course she said something similar
but yeah, don't do it, keep permabeggin'

>>7632182
Anon I have been doing it and I become completely fucking useless the moment I stop tracing.
I can trace a ref. Now what?
I didnt get better. I am at my wits end here.
Everyone says how easy it is to get good if you try this simple trick but it doesnt work for me.

>>7632182
seoji's course?

kinda ugleh but i like this pose and i might use it for a full drawing

>>7632184
retaaaaaard, first you trace, then you try to copy
do it 3 hours a day
return in 2 weeks

>>7632186
https://online-courses.club/anime-styled-character-illustration-course-by-seoji-%eb%8d%b0%ed%8f%ac%eb%a5%b4%eb%a9%94%eb%a5%bc-%ed%99%9c%ec%9a%a9%ed%95%9c-%ec%ba%90%ec%a3%bc%ec%96%bc-%ec%ba%90%eb%a6%ad%ed%84%b0-%ec%9d%bc/

>>7632181

>>7632189
is this course worth it?

hmm

>>7632192
yea

a beg and his money are easily parted

i'm just some guy but "talentgod"'s studies are not very impressive looking or out of the ordinary for his level to me

>>7632199
it's a shitpost, especially knowing his process with tracing they aren't particularly impressive at all.

>>7632200
ah i see
well i hope he can take all the glaze as motivation regardless

I’m making the worst thing I’ve ever made and this is the best frame out of all of it

>>7632204
its cute, keep going

they are dreaming about hands
do you think hands are sentient?
>>7632200
is talent god that guy that always posts the same anime titty girl studies?
>>7632194
hmmm nice hair

>>7632204
good taste in bodypillows

>>7632199
it's just one guy doing that everytime, if someone says they have 2 days of drawing and can draw a cube he will shit up the thread talking about the new "talentCHAD"

>>7632208
I will… for you anon

>>7632213
not that anon, but body pillow anon
you really should, your style looks dope

>>7632211
i think its funny that he's fixated on me sucking when i make money off my art easily and get pieces bought by boomers irl etc etc and when real people see my art irl all i get is praise and fascination even if i don't draw weebstuff he can keep seething lollll

>>7631093

>>7632132
Really good stuff, anon. Do you have any socials to follow you?
Really like how you push forms and exaggerate gestures!

>>7632166
and mastering anatomy i guess

>>7632219
sexy nya!

>>7632213
thank you, i am looking forward to the finished result. anyone who draws guys is based in my book

guys im bad at drawing but im gonna draw and no one is going to stop me now

>>7632228
uh bbbbased

tried out gesture drawing today. not sure if i'm doing it "right".

>>7632228
He is trying to break free from his programming. I must wake the sleeper agents.
>Activation word "C.R.A.B"
I might need to also pull in some favors to get some talented people in here to demoralize him. We gotta contain this before it spreads

more doodle

>>7632235
i'll post some other stuff as well. drawing on a tablet is real fucking hard to get used to after only using pencils.

>>7632246

>>7632236
TOO LATE CRABMAN! IVE ALREADY DRAWETH

finished lineart. sadly i could not post the video because i forgot to mute my mike and i could be heard sniffling in the video as i have a cold.
in any case, does this lineart look ok? any glaring mistakes?

>>7632249
This goes hard
Blog?

goon from imagination

>>7632215
>>7632224
Thanks! I’ll post the final here or in the animation general, but it’ll probably take a while since tweening pisses me off more than frame by frame

>>7632264
cant tell whats going on at all

>>7632267
yeah my pen is broken now so it's just losing lines it's very annoying

fixed

>>7632260
There’s a handful of tangents that make this look pretty flat, but aside from that I’d say just play around with line weight for visual appeal

>>7632288
>tangents
where

>Backpacking

>>7632300
CYCLOPS CHAN!

>>7632306
Hello! :D

>>7632082
begsovl!

no idea how to hatch the white shirt but ill try my best tomorrow

>me sabotaging permabegschizo from reaching his potential

>>7632315
people did this to me intentionally in retrospect by giving me bad advice on purpose

>>7632315
no one can sabotage permabegschizo more than himself

I noticed a random tile in my bathroom kinda looked like a woman so I painted it

>>7632328
You’re my favorite kind of schizo, how the fuck did you see a woman anon?

from imagination , deer mom

>>7632300
How long have you been drawing?

>>7632341
15 years

>>7632200
I didn't understand how the hip and ribcage was so i needed to visualize it correctly first. The rest of what i drew was not traced (gestures, the morpho simplified redraws and the 1-2-5-10 min same reference), but drawn by hand. I can make a video tomorrow if you wish from the 1-2-5-10 if you desire, though im not sure why people take this much interest.

>>7632341
I started last November. So it's been about ~8 months now

>>7632346
im interested on the vid

people are obessing because you are learning stuff at insane speeds never before seen here.
that being said, keep up the good work

>>7632328
Holy shit I see her too

>>7632354
The results...they're in. I have some bad news for you anon...

>>7632346
post a video, use obs to record its very easy

fife

>>7632348
Keep it up

>>7632120
my understanding so far

>>7632300
banana hair goat, bless me with your wisdom

>>7632329
I jack off like 4 times a day and see women bodies in random patterns on wallpapers in my house too

>>7632361
I will
>>7632365
Hehee. What do you want to know. I can try to help :D

>>7632143
I think what he is doing is correct for practice. You need to learn how to problem solve with drawing. Foreshortening a torso is one of those problems the image he chose presents for him.

last one of this imagination set probably unless I find more time to draw
i like drawing from imagination way more than using a reference rip

>>7632120
new thread challenge?
i failed btw.
>10 minutes, for this?
does anyone even watch these or am i just wasting cloud disk space?

https://litter.catbox.moe/51pll3f0oc9b155i.mp4

I feel limited by the fact I don't know what I want my drawing to look like before setting down a sketch. Do anons bother visualizing? I feel like there are two methods of drawing, doodle until you like a sketch and finish it, figuring out the details as you go along, or have a specific end goal in mind and build towards it methodically.

>>7632367
how to draw the banana hair? i love this character who has this hair, pic related is how i drew him but it doesnt look good. he has like black and blonde pieces

>>7632379
pic rel is ur art?

>>7632366
Ah I see

>>7632378
Do you start sketching with absolutely no idea what you want to draw or do you have vague ideas like 'my waifu in a cute pose', 'cool dude with a big sword' but no specific visual in mind. I get the latter a lot and I rarely find doodling absent-mindedly gets me anything I want to refine. Usually I take whatever vague idea I have to start and search it on boorus/pixiv/pinterest until I get a better idea of what I actually want to draw. Poses specifically are more annoying to look for but I like the 3d model poses from the clip studio asset store, even if you don't use CSP, you can still look at the poses.

>>7632394
Yes

>>7632379
I think the bananas should always be layered and never really parallel. I try not to bend the spikes too much. they should have consistent shape since there are so many of them, the spikes should always start from somewhere, your character's spikes above his eye don't really seem to start from anywhere. I hope this makes sense and helps

>>7632398
traced?

Drawing my hand and foot while I wait at the airport

Havent drawn in weeks. Little sketch for the 4th

i can draw him from imagination better than anything
>>7632404
i love this a lot

>>7631026 (OP)
i know the folds are bad

>>7632399
Thats helpful, thanks! I havent drawn him in a while but I'll try again after I finish my current drawing with this new knowledge!
>>7632401
No it was a panel of my manga. Ill post the full page. Why assume its traced?

>>7632415
You're welcome! I'm glad I could help

why people don't deny talent for anything but art?

>>7632399
Cyclops-sensei's secret banana knowledge. I understand everything know

>>7632405
Oil him up

>>7632421
Because current science can't settle the debate for skills where your brain is more important than your body. Now don't bring that shit into the thread, either try to improve or go look for a skill you have talent for.

>>7632141
Thank you anon! I have a million ideas, but I can't get to compromise with any single project. I get distracted easily, with any random new stuff. I managed to do the BOTNS comic because I was reading the book (5 books) so that kept me engaged in that one thing.
I did this one on picrel today just for you. Though yesterday I was thinking about another totally different story: Some anon gets to a beach in Rio to draw and when he gets back he comes across some favela thugs torturing a cute hot girl wich they kidnapped for ransom. Shy anon doesn't do much to help, but the thugs get him too and he's now stuck with the girl. It's a short story.
But I would love to do this one, though I'll probably won't do a second page... I hate myself. I can't manage to focus on one thing.
>>7632221
Do you really think so? Thank you! Sorry I only post random stuff here, mostly in this General. I'm just too careless, irresponsible and forgetful to keep any socials active. This place is quite forgiving in that regard. If I left stuff unfinished or if I disappear, it's fine. That's the nature of this place, and it suits my recklessness.
>>7632244
NICE BACK ANGLE. I'm saving her.
>>7632260
COOL, nice shoes! I wonder about the hair, that's gonna be a tough one to tender it seems.
>>7632314
I just saw this one... PERFECTION! You did it! I didn't know you were going with this monochrome style, and it looks perfect, you just achieved greatness.
>>7632300
Wait, you did something different, her body is more nimble and harmoniums. Her legs are longer and look much better with the rest of the body, this is good anon.

drawings from june... post them...

>>7632440
blud yapping fr

>>7632377
>litter
I'd watch it if it didn't go 404 in a couple of hours by putting it on litter

>>7632440
>her body is more nimble and harmoniums
Thank you! I have been drawing her fully every time lately and I've been trying to do gestures with her lower body too. I think that might have helped. I'm glad you think she looks better now

I suspect peril is actually pawell and he pulled an epic trolling on us

>>7632509
I believe it

hollow knight is goated

>>7632244
thats a really nice angle

Is this guy AI or just chinese?
He has been posting daily fully rendered art
https://x.com/MoMoBug22/status/1939735137543233851/photo/1

>>7632554
If you actually need to ask. it might as well be AI

>>7632405
Thanks friend. Fixed the arm and some other minor stuff after dinner.

>>7632573
forgot pic....

>>7632576
she needs a bigger shirt : [

>>7632576
She needs bigger cowtits :(

>>7632554
why only 350 likes, it seems pretty good
i don't understand twitter

>>7632181
I love this shit, I could hear you and read you rant for ever end ever
https://youtu.be/oXyW5w5RRFY?t=207

>>7632597
meds

>>7632597
Permabegschizo is very funny, he should try comedy instead of art

>>7632598
Can a person draw better on meds?

>>7632605
Almost every pro tier artist you see on twitter is on meth.

>>7632554
Another AI blackpill drops. The jeets from /g/ were right — my art, once my pride, now looks like cave scribbles next to the machine's divine masterpieces. And yes, I used AI to write this too — because even my words fall short. I am obsolete.

>>7632554
This is obviously AI.

really happy to see peril get the love he deserves lately, he's great
>>7632563
nice
>>7632603
he is very funny i like him way more than the other schizos
>>7632607
most fujoshi artists on twitter nowadays are on a cocktail of vyvanse and csp model tracing

gay elf
I realized after drawing he looks like link from Zelda which I never played but I guess it wormed it's way into my mind anyway
no guro for today

>>7632617
I wish I could be a good fujo artist one day

This guy said to copy bridgman and I fucking love his art. Legit art goals. Guy is insanely taletned.
https://x.com/Agemmata/status/1775889726232215841

oh wait I actually don't remember if I posted this itt yet
need a bf to do this to me so bad

>>7632627
one of your best so far Paigey

>>7632554
not AI

>>7632626
>well made ai images
ew

>>7632625
fucking forgot pic like a retard

>>7632629
ty! I feel like I've been improving a bit lately, it's somewhat encouraging
your stuff looks stellar as always desu no surprise there

>>7632626
usual talented rat non-advice
go on and copy it, i can't wait for the results

>>7632580
>>7632582

Something for everyone

>>7632640
i really like this
>>7632634
thanks bud, you're improving a lot recently

>>7631093
tittiees

if anyone wants to toss the link to neobeg in thread post it here im bored

>>7632631
>>7632615
>>7632611
>>7632556
Then just use AI and get 7k followers? I'd like to see you try :)

>>7632647
What are you talking about?

>>7632649
i'm not drawing for money?

>>7632655
discord server the people who made the are from it

>>7632658
>the people who made the are from it
has anyone really been as far as decided to even go more want do look more like?

Too high
>>7632617
Thanks, cool fairies

>>7632671
self portrait

>>7632673
>>7632671
oops I didn't mean to tag you
cool ass bird

>>7632673
What does your stone of sisyphus represent?

does the canvas side profile make sense?

cow girl idea

>>7632676
drawing in this case, but also likely not killing myself in other capacities

anime artists with the best technical skill you've seen? i know a lot of chinese rendergods and such so i need inspo for other styles.

Brain broke at the bottom half of the page. Guess that's it for the day
>>7632682
Just have fun and doodle more

rendered this for fun

I'm thinking to make some ghostly stuff, where a shadow-like entity wants to "interact" with an oblivious person, but I'm not sure which one is better for the entity hand phase, is it better in an "appproach" phase (A), or "interact" phase (B)? The hand on B would be a bit covered by the person's shoulder because it stays in the wall

Finally on hte last stretch of the current work load. Another copied drawing. This one has the planes of the face feeling kind of very wrong. It feels like her eyes melt into the side of her face. I've notice this a lot on anime drawings which makes it bad to pick one to try and copy without getting these bad habits

i feel like my art looks significantly better colored maybe I should just color everything lol

>>7632701
why not both and make it like a two-panel art piece sort of thing

>>7632706
That's a good idea. Tho I was thinking about making it a single drawing because I want to lean more into the "implication" than the actual "act", which I think single piece is better for the former while the 2 panel-art type is more fitting for the latter? I don't know if what I said is making sense

>>7632720
in that case i'd go for the 1st one then if youre trying to convey the shadow entity wanting to interact but being hesitant to do so.

>>7632725
Oh I see, then if I want it to have no hesitation, would it be fitting with the second one, or the first is still better?

>>7632728
no hesitation, the second would work better imo

why is trad coloring so fun and digital coloring so not fun

>>7632736
Trad mogs

>>7632737
it's so much better, digital coloring is aids

>>7632733
Okay got it, thankyou anon

>>7632690
Yoji Shinkawa is incredible. Sadly, he doesn't have much work outside of his professional projects. It's incredibly sad, because it means he might be forgotten too easily.

>>7632377
You should have stopped at 1:27 and analyzed whether that sketch was good enough to continue or if you needed to redo it. To be honest, you should work on your sketching.

>>7632736
digital painting is much more fun for me than trad

>>7632744
yeah painting is different from coloring digital painting is easier bc all of the materials are on hand

I was told i'm beg and my art is uninteresting. I disagree. Am I delusional?

>>7632754
beg/int is generally a matter of personal preference nowadays. draw anime gooner slop and you will automatically become int

>>7632757
Does this count as anime gooner slop?

westoid cope

>>7632763
it's the truth, people here praise art that isn't particularly technically skilled often just because it's anime slop

>>7632765
Lmao sure pajeet.

>>7632736
traditional tools have been refined over 100s of years, so they feel pretty good to use. but trad can be stressful because you can't undo mistakes or easily experiment with temporary layers like on digital.
every medium has its pros and cons and they depend on your personality.

>>7632769
cope all you want, it's the truth
very few here can tell what's actually good or not because they're too influenced by jpslop

>>7632754
yeah that's /beg/ skill level, lots of digital tricks covering up your lack of fundamental skills
looks uninteresting to me, especially in this day and age where there is so much digital pinup illustrations done at a much higher level
naturally you are too close to your own art and won't be able to perceive it like how other people will.

>>7632773
pyw bro

>>7632774
Could you tell me what I can do to make it not /beg/?

I've been drawing for 5+ years and no matter what it seems like I cant escape. bought proko courses 2 years ago.

pinup was done to poke reference at Hajime Sorayama. Not to attract a general audience just because I thought it would be fun to draw a robot girl in a pose referencing another robot girl.

>>7632784
>for 5+ years
The permabegs! They are multiplying!

>>7632745
whats the difference between coloring and painting? bucket tool?

>>7632754
it looks novice and doesn't look appealing.

>>7632784
>Could you tell me what I can do to make it not /beg/?
whats your goal?

> bought proko courses 2 years ago.
You bought it, but did you put in the work???

>Not to attract a general audience just because I thought it would be fun to draw a robot girl in a pose referencing another robot girl.
coping and pride will only slow down your progress anon.

How the fuck do you even compete against that?

>>7632820
pratice for 5 years?

>>7632824
The initial art is better than anything I could do.
Fuckkkk

>>7632505
I was already kind of realizing that you just need to memorize how a handful of angles work in anime and stop trying to make sense to at least the facial structure, these kinds of videos just confirm it.

>>7632831
That whole thread is fucking depressing.
So many talented anons posting work and "just draw and feel it out bruh and put the eyes where it looks good" and then you have the talentless ngmis who try to rationalize it, math it, plot it and pull out a bunch of bullshit infographics they dont understand.
Legit fucking depressing shit.

I am starting to get depressed again.

>>7632801
>it looks novice and doesn't look appealing.
Would clearer shadows help?

>whats your goal?
For this one I was going for a 2000's vector illustration style. I was mostly focused on making it look like that on the character. Think sonic the hedgehog vectors from sa2 era.

>You bought it, but did you put in the work???
Yes, down to the details such as buying charcoals and drawing on easily disposable packing paper. I never fully finished it, but i did make it over 50%.

I also followed along with ctrl+paint before that.

> coping and pride will only slow down your progress anon.
Explain? I was just explaining why I chose a pinup...

>>7632855
I will pray for you

>>7632855
is sa2 art your goal? if so analyze and copy the official art.

> I never fully finished it
there you go, you have to put in the work there is no other way.

>Would clearer shadows help?
not really, just start analyzing the work you like and why you like it.

>>7632754
Better?

>>7632440
>just for you
Thank you! I love it.
Take it slow peril, if you don't have a clear story you want to do right now, it's probably best not to force it. I hope the books give you some ideas, or indeed just go with that favela story. But only once you have the time, and most importantly, the motivation to do it.

>monochrome
I render most my stuff in monochrome, I really suck at color. I'll try and make it a little more detailed today. Thanks for all the kind words!

>>7632494
I think i put it on 3 days tho
Ill go back to catbox

>>7632744
Yeah, i rushed sketching that. I usually take more time to be more accurate

>>7632872
> is sa2 art your goal? if so analyze and copy the official art.

Literally what this art piece is though.

So your advice is basically: Don't draw original stuff, become a xerox machine. Inspired < Hard copies only = no longer beg

I'm finally getting to a point where I draw something that isn't a copy(and still a study of another art style) and I get told to copy art and stop making original stuff. How many years of being a xerox machine will suddenly imbue my art with soul and appeal? Lmao

What a joke.

>>7632880
oh wow, I will pray for you too.

Daily brutal blackpill above

>>7632880
>>7632872
>analyzing the work you like and why you like it.
> copy the official art.

Studies of art I did in the similar style. Seriously.. How much xerox copying must I do to be out of /beg/ ? I'd really like to know.

>>7632754
I was emotionally moved by this chain of posts. What an incredible tragedy. This will leave a permanent scar on me that only great masterpieces could ever hope to do.

>>7632890
Truly uninteresting art often gets no engagement at all.

trying to improve the rendering of the clothes. could've left it black and white but it was bothering me. gonna need to find ways to speed up this particular process because it takes a while. 20 minutes for the pants.
https://files.catbox.moe/tjiuo0.mp4

Id love some help on the circled foot.

>>7632933
something like this would look more natural maybe, excuse how shitty it is drawn but i think you get the idea

>>7632935
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NEW BREADNEW BREADNEW BREAD

>>7632938
Way too soon

>>7632938
too soon

>>7631188
Everyone has their fuckups

>>7632440
Fixed a couple of typos in the last balloon text.