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If you're on a break after drawing and feel like sharing what's on your mind about what you're working on, the industry, things that excite you about art, or anything that frustrates you about drawing or the process of art then grab a cup of water and chill out here.

Remember to keep discussion on-topic as much as possible.

How can I tell if my art is based or cringe?

>>7642696
Is it proper anime? Then it's based. Is it proper western trad art? Then it's based.

If it's anything else - it's cringe.

>>7642696
you can hang it on your wall without the slightest shame

How did you learn to resist the urge to self harm as punishment for not improving fast enough and being stuck as a permabeg retard I actually broke a finger today I don’t know if I should consider suicide

>>7642740
Not even permaint but permabeg? Do it

I must annihiliate all westoid influence from my art style.

>>7642757

>"find what works best for you"
Bro I came to your video looking high and low so you can show me. So aggravating.

>>7642740
whats the rush buddy

was doing some fun sketches for a friend's worldbuilding thing, felt really happy to create for the first time in a while and genuinely immersed in their writings. i could actually imagine us collaborating on something and they did mention it themselves.
today i found out they're friends with some big artists with 100s of thousands of followers

i just had flashbacks to every shitty drawing i made for them and i cant help but feel completely useless and unneeded. why would you want my low int 8000 followers having ass when you can just get your gigapopular, professional artist friends to do the same thing but better? even if i have a good idea in something i drew they can just be like "hey i wanna commission you can you reference this dogshit sketch my friend did thanks".

the thing is i find meaning in connecting with others over art and i think collaborating with other people is especially important nowadays, but at the same time i simply am not going to be able to compete with people who have +20 years of industry experience when i myself am a social media nobody artist that barely makes ends meet

i think today i truly realized that it will probably be at minimum another decade before i am good enough for any meaningful creative project

>>7643072
Maybe you should find someone you trust and allow that person to help you create art that you want. Together you win.

chat I discovered a breakthrough in my progress. It's only up from here

have you ever timed yourself drawing? I spend hours "drawing" but when I look at what I produce, it can be done in like ten minutes.

>>7643193
kinda, I use tegaki on /i/ often, so it's timing me by default. I don't have a set time but usually end at 10-20 minutes.

>>7643141
elaborate and tell what such a breakthrough was!

>>7643193
no, but my drawing program saves timelapses by default, so I can look back and review

>My room is 37 Celsius and there's no AC.
>It's not only uncomfortable to work in I'm genuinely afraid my motherboard might melt
>Waiting until the evening to draw so I can finally paint this comm.
>Killing time going for a walk around the block, watching documentaries, reading manga, but I just want to get this work done. The motivation is there but it's just a fucking oven in my studio space right not.
I fucking hate summer so much it's unreal

>>7643198
How the fuck do you make that shit work

>>7643237
Ponder the aroma

What do you do when you post some art you think is bad but others say its nice? How do you tell genuine admiration, flattery, and trolling apart?


Also im so sick of drawing right now. Im a beg and used to learn construction and stuff but got burned out multiple times, visualizing things is impossible for me, copies don't really help me with drawing from imagination. Im just waiting until the day is over so i can take my meds and force some results.
What do i do bros?

>>7643392
>What do you do when you post some art you think is bad but others say its nice?
Is it really that hard to be nice to people, I know this is 4chan but for fucks sake learn how to engage with people without being a total prick.

>>7643395
Its just that there is a lot of art at my skill level that is being made fun off so there is nothing against the same people doing the same to me.

I don't think that the few reactions i got so far were in bad faith but this can't be always this way right?

>>7643193
have you ever timed yourself drawing?

Every time I'm home I put on the timer and see how much I do, I pause it when I'm not working. When I'm working 45 mins can fly by but at home it's a struggle. Lately it's been rough to reach an hour I need to get my focus back.

>>7643348
ballsweat, green tea and the weed my neighbour is always smoking

>>7643204
I gave it some thought and I need to purge myself from all western influence.

>Artist who follows 0 people asking for others to follow them

No. If you think you are cool by not following others, don't ask others to follow you

>>7644192
I just refuse to follow people who do this. There are a million artists out there, I can go find someone with good art that actually has a sense of respect.

>>7642676 (OP)

i'm in a predicament where i'm developing pixel art floor plans off of existing maps of starships (that i have commissioned myself). i trace the outline and the boundaries for the walls, but i try to make the assets i use for interior myself.

i would really like to do something more original rather than tracing but because i'm working with schematics for a real 3D object, i'm not able to "be original" without violating the kind of accuracy required of schematics as an art form. it's not like drawing a person where you can toy with the body proportions, eye shape, or just make shit up.

i'd love to make my own 3D ships but blender filtered me hard. anyway, i usually make my own pixel art assets, modify walls/rooms, and choose a color palette so it's still user input required, but the art can never fully be "mine" and that bothers me.

How do you keep subscribers interested in a social media relationship?

>>7644228
Illusion of power. Let them vote for something each month, hide the results and do what you want and when you post the art, tell how subscribers voted for it

>>7644228
Also VIP discord where you post your personal doodles and other stuff making them feel they can see something otherwise restricted. Also encourage commenting. When oeople get to comment simething with you reacting to it, they feel more involved

>>7644236
Wow, that's actually some good shit I could've never come up it something like that. Thanks.

>wake up
>migraine
another no drawing day

>>7644720
what was the excuse for non-migraine days?

>>7644723
I had a stomachache

How the fuck can I be satisified working a shitty job 40 hours a week with almost no free time to draw my favorite anime girls?

Nothing is difficult. Human nature likes to make it feel that way, but if you do things with flow, and just, don't slack off... Then you'll have time, money, and freedom. I understand having your whole life flipped onto its head after one mistake, but you have to learn to best that mistake. Don't blame it, blame yourself and improve.

>>7645242
Sometimes life fucks you, and I hope you don't have to experience it as often as I did. It makes my drawing shit. Sometimes downright impossible to draw because of the pain. Have to pop a few kinds of painkillers.

>>7643064
Because if you can’t learn fast you’re retarted

>>7645229
>almost no free time to draw my favorite anime girls?
What's your schedule like?

>>7645242
drawing is not easy if you're actually trying. If you draw things that aren't challenging you then are you really expressing yourself?

>>7645229
There's 112 waking hours in a week, you can't find ANY time to draw? I usually draw on my lunch break and on the train ride there then get at least an hour in after work. You know people build businesses and entire other careers while working full-time, we all have 24 hours in a day, what makes you special?

>>7645229
Even if you had the free time, you wouldn't draw. If you aren't drawing now then you're just using your work time as an excuse. Be honest with yourself.

>>7645385
what is your frame of reference for fast?

>>7643072
those 20+ year industry experience people dont have the time or patience to listen to this random retarded ideasguy and spend their high value time on free work for a vague mutual connection

stay in your lane

I am turning 25 and I haven’t started my dream webcomic project. I am an idiot for doing nothing of my life. The worst is knowing my art has appeal and could easily find an audience. Fuck my laziness.

>study anatomy
>draw oc
>forget to apply what I learnt
>waste hours banging my head against the wall
It's like learning a new recipe and not following the steps when it gets to the cooking

>>7645598
study while drawing your oc

>>7645229

I'll equate for every retard on the phone I talk to I use the hold time to reclaim time back under my goy threshhold of wait time limit. So if I take 30 calls for the day that's 90 goy minutes I'm getting back for myself right under Rosenbergs nose. If I'm gonna get paid dogshit wage I might as well find a hack around it.

>>7645598

I made an art profile for Twitter 3 months ago and I'm slowly getting some traction even though I rarely post. I only got 4 followers but I'm still happy about it. If you guys want a tip, try making fanarts of characters with a loyal fanbase that actually interacts with content related to it. Asides from that, there doesn't seem to be much you can do. People will randomly show interest in your work from time to time.

>>7645439
I should have been able to go from /beg/ to /pro/ in 4 years just like you guys said.

>>7645831
Pixiv and DeviantArt allows user to search works for sought tags from newest to oldest. Fans of certain characters, series and niches check them regularly
t. 6k in DA, 3k in Pixiv and 1k in Twitter

>>7646009
That's the timeframe for people going to like ateliers and art schools, or at least with a professional as a mentor... you're not gonna do that shit in 4 years on your own unless youre very self driven and get a lot of critique from more skilled artists anyways.

>>7646009
Blame your parents

>>7645831
I got the most traction on Pixiv of all social media, my stuff gets ignored on Twitter even though I interact with people, Instagram is the same, and I haven't tried Bl*eSky nor Reddit.
On Pixiv I got 0 - 3 followers and 5 - 30 likes per piece, better than the 0 interactions I get on Twitter. They usually like lewd stuff and fan art of seasonal anime on Pixiv

>>7646009
whos gonna tell him man

>>7646519
Tell him what?

Surprised my brain hasn't been fried from staying awake for 50hrs straight and having to go to work twice in that time-frame.
Had some sleep went to work again then drew again when I got home.
Somehow, I feel okay.

I feel fine when I'm drawing but there's an overwhelming need to fucking kill myself.
I already feel like I'm just time-skipping through life fucking hell.

when I finally got good at drawing all my love for it faded and I let my skills rot. I'm plagued with so many self inflicted issues I wonder how I even managed to get to such a point

I think I'm gonna post timelapses on Patreon to scare off "it's AI" boogeymen. Shit makes my laptop lag though

>>7647345
AI can do timelapse, though.

>>7642757
good luck with the gene editing buddy

how do you draw without crying?

>>7646997
>when I finally got good at drawing all my love for it faded

To be good at something you have to do it so much that it becomes normal and mundane. Maybe you're just study-brained and forgot to nurture your creativity. Try redrawing an old idea you thought was cool with the rusty skills you have. It's not gone anon it's still there.
>I'm plagued with so many self inflicted issues
Welcome to life buddy, Art or no we all make stupid mistakes and it feels like the end of the world but it isn't, you'll get through this, just keep going.

>>7647345
>Patreon
Just upload your files for people who pay extra. I don't think you need timelapses.

Most friends I ever made were made in school..they are all long gone in all four cardinals. Is it even possible to forge meaningful art friendships as an adult?

>>7643072
>compete with people who have +20 years of industry experience

Some time ago I was looking at one of Dave Rapoza's artwork on instagram, some guy in the comments asked if he could commission him and Rapoza told him he doesn't take commissions from individuals. These 20+ year industry artists have agents and deal with the industry as a whole. You are the guy they can afford and sometimes they want to support up and coming artists. Your friend has trust in you. All you can do your best work and hope for the best don't talk yourself out of something because you feel inadequate. Most of those artists you talk about took on jobs waay before they were ready anyway. Step in the arena anon fight for your place.

Blocked someone on twitter for being annoying and begging me for RP when I said multiple times I'm not interested. Thanks for reading and subscribe to my blog, share your thoughts on the replies

>>7644239
>other stuff
nta but do you think they'd pay for dumb shit like photos of my dinner in the discord? Most anons can sniff out the bullshit but I'm asking about the others

I swear I'm at my fucking limit. 4 fucking years of doing nothing but thinking about drawing, taking art classes in community college, taking classes now at art school, reading and grinding on my fucking own. drawing 1-3 hours everyday sometimes 4-6. I'm fucking done. I have something in my genetics that naturally makes me awful at drawing. I TALK TO SO MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN DRAWING FOR LESS THAN I HAVE AND JUST NATURALLY ARE GOOD AT DRAWING. THOUSANDS OF STUDIES. THOUSANDS OF PERSONAL DRAWINGS FOR WHAT? For nothing. I do my ideas a disservice by drawing and painting them. IN ART SCHOOL A GIRL WAS INTERESTED IN ME, we went on dates, but when I showed her my drawings she visibly cringed and became more and more disinterested in me. The more I showed her my drawings, the more she wanted to talk to me less and less. My drawings have ruined my life countless times. Even when meeting a new friend, the more I showed him my drawings, the less interested he became in me. Up to the point where the last time I showed him a drawing of mine, he told me to stop talking to him. I CAN'T JOIN ANY DISCORD COMMUNITY OR MAKE ANY DRAWING FRIENDS EITHER BECAUSE EVERY DISCORD SERVER I JOIN I JUST GET IGNORED. And here I am. 2 years later from the last time when I posted in WCT about how I had no followers on twitter. Where am I now? The same place and only having improved slightly. When I ask people how they got good at drawing they say "I just watched videos." MAYBE /IC/ SHOULD SAY THAT IT'S POSSIBLE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN YOUR DNA THAT MAKES YOU BAD AT DRAWING. If I would have known that it's possible to be incompatible with drawing I WOULD HAVE NEVER STARTED. with the amount of time I wasted on this, I could have been an expert at something else. I'm done. I'm done, I'm finished.

>tfw stress is so high it made me forget how to draw
Man I spent the past few days drawing and at the same time I didn't draw shit

>>7643237
Get a fan, get ice bags. Hang ice packs behind the fan and put the fan on your desk so it blows past the back of your head. I struggled a while, but now ACs are too warm for me. I'm using a tall vertical fan on my desk and a round fan blowing air outside my room.
And that's cause I'm assuming an ac is outside your reach, of course

Wake up call guys. I see a bunch of artists with physical issues and psychological issues go "I need to draw, I'm just making excuses" then draw 5 minutes and begin a smoking break. But when you admit you have a problem you start solving it. If you don't you're just working against yourselves. Even admitting you have crippling insecurity blocking you helps

>>7647637
I made this specifically for people like you. >>7647462

>>7647704
be glad your house isn't at risk of getting bombed by jews at any moment and watch your stress disappear, my friend

>>7647716
I don't want to pay for someone to speak to me. It's already very lonely having 0 friends to talk about drawing with. I'd feel even worse if I had to pay for a drawing friend.

>>7647731
you can have both skill and friends, but I can only help you with skill. Friends is really about your personality.

I genuinely believe that when people give advice or when someone makes a tutorial, they purposely leave out little details here and there and make the process slightly confusing. I think people purposely try to sabotage beginners so that they can never improve. It seems like whenever I show my art to an experienced artist they purposely give me one sentence of advice and then when I ask for them to explain they quickly change the subject. Don't trust intermediate or experienced artists. People want to and will try to sabotage us beginners- they want to clip our wings. Be careful.

>>7648327
Sounds like you're just a piece of shit. Please drop your name or username so I can avoid you like the plague.

>>7648341
@lilramune

>>7648341
How am I in the wrong? This is just a pattern I noticed. I seriously think that advanced artists are trying to keep us down. If I ever get good at drawing I want to make tutorials that aren't tampered with so that everyone can improve. But I don't think I can go past beginner anymore since advanced artists have clipped my wings so badly to the point where I don't know if it's even possible for me anymore.This is not me >>7648342

>>7648327
I don't think it's on purpose, but this definitely happens a lot.

I think a lot of it is just /beg/ on /beg/ violence. People act smart and say something like "you just gotta chiaroscuro, bro", but don't actually know what it means, and panic when they are asked to elaborate. Most artists don't know how they do what they do, or why what they do works. They're just guessing and faking competence.

>>7648351
btw I became a girl this year if you needed to know. Not >>7648342 btw

>>7648353
Maybe I am being a bit misanthropic in my outlook but If it's people not wanting/not knowing how to explain something how are you even supposed to learn anything? For years I struggled and still struggle with painting characters on a background, the character always stuck out like a sore thumb and just felt tacked on so I asked people questions about how to paint a character so that the shading and lighting makes it feel like it's in the scene, but nobody wanted to tell me.

“You must get rid of the thought of competition.
You are to create, not to compete for what is already created.
You do not have to take anything away from any one.
You do not have to drive sharp bargains.
You do not have to cheat, or to take advantage.
You do not need to let any man work for you for less than he earns.
You do not have to covet the property of others, or to look at it with wishful eyes;
No man has anything, of which you cannot have the like,
And that without taking what he has away from him.
You are to become a creator, not a competitor;
you are going to get what you want,
but in such a way that when you get it
every other man will have more than he has now.” ~
-Wallace D. Wattles

>>7648383
Not him, but people are a lot of times just terrible at giving advice and other times you just won't understand what they are saying yourself. There are certain things you will never be able to learn from someone else. Either because no one can teach you right, or because you're incapable of learning it in the way they are trying to teach you. You need to learn it yourself. You need to see it, experience it and have that "aha moment" yourself. Be insistent and keep practicing. Trial and error until you get it.

If I see blue archive being drawn in an art stream I close stream. Simple as that.

>>7648525
I hate how much art is made for these shitty slot machines. It's hard to take anyone seriously who actually plays these things. You can give these retards literal dog shit with an anime waifu slapped on it and they'll worship it like it's the superchrist

>>7648539
They're not all bad, it's just I hate seeing JP artists nowadays just draw this series mostly. How do you have a 3 quarter of a shows drop every 4 months and barely any streams up drawing those characters from those shows? Nope. Just more blue archive spam over and over.

>>7648552
Adults don't watch anime.

>>7648553
Is that the really the reason? Or has the way most do their anime consumption shifted to chinese gacha mostly.

>>7648557
And no regardless Japan has no excuse. They have tons of stuff to draw from, it shouldn't be this way and I'm tired of it being this way.

>>7648552
They're /all/ that bad.

Remember when people threw a tantrum over Battlefront having lootbox characters? In a fully functional FPS game? Nah, slap some anime titties on it and all is forgiven.

>>7648563

In any case, the Chinese model as it is right now will implode on itself. There is too many high quality games on the market out now and upcoming but not enough time to keep up with them all. They need to shift to standalone gaming.

>>7648588
Also I thought the NuBattlefront game sucked because it paled in comparison to the 2nd game. I haven't looked at it since (didn't even know they keep on releasing content for it?).

>>7648557
>>7648559
Yes, the reason is that Japanese artists don't have much time for anything else. The reason gacha is so popular is that anyone can play them while commuting and it's not too time intensive. If you're not a NEET watching anime or manga is a bigger commitment.

>>7648594
>not too time intensive
loool no. I easily hit at least 1 hour per day to complete everything needed for the day for just 1 game. That's 3 anime episodes. If anything, it's just about the same time commitment.

Now something like BA or Nikke would probably be like 15 minutes because those aren't games.

>>7648597
Idk what game takes that long to do your daily shit I only play BA.

>>7648602
Well there you go, because BA is a thing you play while taking a shit. For HSR/WUWA quest if you sit through it takes at least an hour to complete. Almost as if it designed that way in mind.

>>7648614
Take longer shits, easy.

>>7648614
That must be why I barely see any fanart of those anymore, especially compared to ba or nikke, but it's not like anime is not popular. There's plenty of takopii no genzai and ruri no houseki fanart. Most shows don't get fanart because they're not very good or memorable.

>>7648617
bad for the colon though

>>7648624
Probably because blue archive designs are simple school/office uniform wear while the other games are overdesigned.

I let everyone down especially my family and friends. Whenever I draw pre/beg/ art, I just think about my regret and then cry like a little bitch I am because I've been unable to improve for years now.
I tried to stop drawing since I'm worthless, but my older sister's kids prevent me from quit drawing.
How can I stop this endless cycle of self-humiliation?

My use of social media for the purposes of finding ref and getting inspired has devolved into just mindless doom scrolling wasting a ton of time.
It's become like a default thing I do and I think it's fucked up my dopamine system. I don't want to totally cut off though because sometimes it DOES introduce me to cool shit worth reffing from, but I want to make it a tool to enable myself and not an algorithmic trap I keep falling for over and over again. Do you guys have a solution to this sort of thing?

>>7649025
Browse before you fall asleep in familiar places but set an alarm to turn your phone off

>>7647466
Good job anon, it's good to set boundaries and enforce them.

>>7648327
This phenomenon is very real. What type of art do you do by the way?

>>7647372
>i...t's not my fault! it's le genes!
Nice comfort cope you guys tell yourself.

>>7648941
Practice loving and taking care of yourself.

Anyone wants advice I give you some.

>>7649152
yeah what advice you got?

>>7649152
Any advice on how to give advice to begs? I either lie and say "omg it looks sooo good you're doing great sweaty" or I redline/paintover their work without saying anything.

>>7649172
im not him but my approach for everything is the lie sandwich. butter up a potentially ego shattering critique nuke with white lies and compliments to make it go down easier. it makes beginner artists more receptive. in fact try to find ANYTHING thats well done or palatable for the artist’s skill level, point it out, congratulate them, and then start digging. also be nice.

>>7649172
> redline/paintover their work without saying anything
also never do this. would come off wrong

>>7648327
I've noticed a similar pattern, but it's not malicious. Some people need lots of context and every specific step explained thoroughly, but most can't teach like that because they don't think that way, especially artistic types, since they are usually more intuitive. Being a good artist and a good instructor is just a rare combination.

>>7649176 got it guess I'll go learn how to compliment other people's art
>>7649180 my English isn't good enough to explain things so I just end up doing that, idk why it would come off as rude in a critique board especially when I've seen redlines that somehow look worse than the original work, sometimes they even insult op so I thought that's just how it is here

>>7649203
>I've seen redlines that somehow look worse than the original work
I've never seen one that doesn't look worse than the original work kek

I've kinda gotten sick of opening Twitter and feeling jealous of all the cool art I won't get to do because I'm slaving away at work.
I think my job is interesting but it takes up so much of my life and energy and well-being but every option I see is genuinely worse.

>>7650054
RIGHT? i wish for allota thangs to.

Returning artist here, I took my foot off the pedal in a few years ago because AI art shattered my reason for drawing. Now that I've glued it back, what have I missed over the last few years? Has there been fewer activities or is it still full of people eager to get in /beg/?

How can I master my pre/beg/ side?

>>7642676 (OP)
I think im struggling with making things sowl.
This was my more well recieved piece on newgrounds.

The rest dont even come close.

And im trying to figure out why. Maybe because what is happening is defined a lot better. Then my other work, maybe its the hourglass figure or because i took a week (i have workshifts), and the scope was a lot smoller.
Maybe the coin to face to sword line gives it a bit of an extra guidance.

>>7650579
Last work

>>7642676 (OP)
OP-san,
How do I make a girl like Kumiko Oumae suck my Hard Round (Brush) like this?
Thanks,
-anon

>>7648327
Teaching is a skill on its own. Some people understand enough to apply what they know, but they don't understand it enough to mentor others. That's why they might skip steps, they might not see what /beg/s don't see

I've never had sex

>>7650867
Does it really matter? You can easily pay a hooker if you want to, it's not like it's that hard to do.

>>7650887
I'm not interested in supporting prostitution

>>7650867

And you never will.

>>7650891
You'd be supporting the whore who probably needs that money as a single mom to feed her kid. Your ethics don't exist in a vacuum.

>>7650892
likely true
>>7650899
>Your ethics don't exist in a vacuum.
never said anything to the contrary. I'm not opposed to giving someone in need money, but I'd pass on the sex.

XAI put up a job listing with "waifu" in the title. IN THE USA. What does this mean for the future? Are we heading in a timeline where weebs can actually get jobs doing what the truly love?

>>7650904
Why would you pass on the sex?
Waiting till marriage or some gf or?

>>7650961
marriage/a gf is part of it, but regardless I don't think prostitution is good for humanity, and I wouldn't want to support it.

>>7650915
If you love doing fauxanime with westoid sentiments for some strange reason.

This one my favorite compositions.

having a good time drawing for once. happy with how the wips are turning out for once
hell yeah

commissions now one month late. it's over...

>>7651182
Gamzee makara my beloved.

>>7645598
Are you me?
I'm a dropout chef who failed cooking school because of this same issue kek

I got called a permabeg.

>>7651408
So did Craig Mullins

>>7651466
It still hurts.
I'll try to put more effort into it but i don't know how. I just get called a permabeg.
Tomorrow i will draw something that will make people take me seriously.

I'm sitting at my desk at work and I counted 3 screens between three devices I have to actively pay attention to...
I don't think human beings were made for this sort of work.

>>7652218
>3
meant to say ten screen between 3 devices. Soz, am a bit tired.

>Talent/Caste System
>"Muh AI will take all jobs"
>Anti-porn
>only tries to get easy money all the time
>no actual love of artistry, just sees it as a meal ticket
>idolizes white people/westerners, hates asians
It took me this long to realize just how many of you fucks are pajeets. This board truly has fallen.

>>7652246
>muh pajeets
>>Anti-porn
swing and a miss

>>7652262
Pajeets love tits
Pajeets hate porn
Porn is banned in India
That's why any time some garbage website grows to the point they cannot anymore, and they try to apeal to india to keep expanding, they either end up banning porn or implement region-based content blocks. The former is what happened to tumblr, the latter to twitter.

>>7651503
Enjoy the attention, the worse comes after you make it out.

>>7652271
>Pajeets hate porn
I can't speak to their national laws, but from what I've seen reported they're one of the highest-ranked countries for porn consumption. so that seems unfounded.

>>7647637
pyw
Just get a soul and learn how to maximize appeal
I bet you're either only do ugly boring studies or you have some depraved fetish that leaks out everywhere but are too autistic for it be soulful

Where do I (m23) find an 18-20 year old boyfriend free girlfriend who wants to make me draw cute anime boys?

>>7652278
They consume it but their culture is vocally against it, has a tradition of shaming people who make it known they like porn, and they even call it moral pollution. Their fucking anti-porn laws and blocks on the internet have gotten more restrictive over time, and it's illegal to produce porn there.

It's one of those schizophrenic public-private divides where most people do it in private but it's absolutely a taboo.

>>7652291
perhaps all what you're saying is true, but in that case, respectfully, I think it would be too simple to just say "pajeets hate porn." maybe you'll think I'm being pedantic, but it seems like an important distinction to me.

>>7652294
They will tell you they hate porn, they will vote to ban porn, and then they will go home and angrily jerk off because they can't get a wife.
India is basically a nation with a gigantic incel population.

>>7648327
ALL DRAWING IS JUST
>DRAW
>IT LOOKS OFF
>ANALYZE IT
>DRAW IT SLIGHTLY BETTER NEXT TIME

EVERY PIECE OF ADVICE BOILS DOWN TO THAT
YOU CAN STUDY AND STUDY BUT YOU WILL ALWAYS DRAW SOMETHING SLIGHTLY OFF, OR WITH GREAT DIFFICULTY
THATS WHY YOU HAVE TO PRACTICE OVER AND OVER
YOU CAN'T JUST DRAW SOMETHING ONCE AND MASTER IT

>>7648383
>how to paint a character so that the shading and lighting makes it feel like it's in the scene
The simple answer is that you keep the level of detail all the same at each stage. Sketching, blocking in, and then further layering and so on. You apply other skills like your understanding of perspective to make stuff that's farther look... farther. But in general that's how you harmonize everything. Like when you're on the step for painting highlights, you're doing so for all the objects and characters at once, as one cohesive step.

Does that answer your question?

I will agree that a lot of people don't get this and just ram their heads into the wall until they can inefficiently make a convincing background to apply to a character after the fact.

>>7650915
only ironic weeb jobs

>>7652289
literally any university art class, they'll probably be a bit below average looking or obese though

>kinky married milf messaged me out of the blue saying she really liked my art
>sent me nudes of herself asking if she could be the model for one of them
I'm still sub-1k btw I don't care if she's just using me for free art or if it's her husband sharing nudes wagmi

>>7652361
One of my clients shares the raunchy art he commissions from me (and the art I just do in general) with his wife and they're both into it.

>>7652365
that is cute and lovely, even the perverts can find love

>>7642676 (OP)
Tried working on a more complex drawing and it's very cool that I can just wake up and keep drawing without having to stare at a blank canvas

>>7652402
>even the perverts can find love
of course they can! the world is more kinky than you give it credit for

There's something about drawing/painting in Procreate that pisses me off. I can't tell if its the software or the apple pen.

>>7654133
I tried it and it felt very artificial somehow
compared to csp/krita using my pc

Time to spend 50 hours on a single piece

can you recommend me some water coolers it is so god dman hot

>>7654142
I just have a mini fridge dedicated to only bottled water

>>7654133
Really? I find drawing in procreate the best experience. All the brushes need adjusting in brush studio because out the box is ass.

>>7654157
I've used/use photoshop and csp and the way I apply paint (for lack of a better way of saying) makes sense in my head than in procreate. This is using the basic circle brush for all three apps. In procreate I don't know how to explain it but there's this sense of cognitive dissonance between what I'm trying to do and what happens on the screen.

>I have to draw?
>Again?
>*gunshot*

I've been using a pen tablet for years, yet I still don't feel comfortable drawing from scratch with it. I always start by drawing a sketch traditionally, and then I scan it to ink and color it digitally. I'd like to feel more comfortable drawing digitally someday.

>>7654277
>I have to draw?
not necessarily

im so dizzy rn i cant even play gemu...

this is a vent but does anyone else hate how improving in art (or life in general) makes you super isolated and alone?

i left my friend group because all they did was play counter strike and smoke weed all day, and none of them had any ambition. i stopped using discord and twitter because it's the same vibe, like you're better off barely touching these sites. same with 4chan. i'm not saying like oh i'm a better person than everyone on these sites, but it's like everyone is smoking weed and making dick jokes all the time and i'm trying really hard to make my dreams come true, and it's really lonely. does anyone else relate?

>>7654618
>everyone is smoking weed and making dick jokes all the time and i'm trying really hard to make my dreams come true, and it's really lonely. does anyone else relate?

A lot of people relate, they call it "The lonely chapter" where you're not good enough to find your new friends but don't want to be like the current ones. Make socializing with the people you want to be a priority and when you find out how tell me too because I'm right there with you. This world is filled with normal people with no ambition looking to mindlessly consume until dead.

>>7654633
>Make socializing with the people you want to be a priority and when you find out how tell me too because I'm right there with you.
i'm pretty sure they just seek you out. the crowds you really want to be in right now are exclusive and invite only

>>7654636
>i'm pretty sure they just seek you out.

Hahahaha no, there are levels to this, right now that other anon isn't smoking weed and playing vidya all day, now he has to put himself out there in other circles, my problem is that those circles are often filled with the most cringe people and you have to wade through the piles of trash to find the golden ones, then you may out grow those people to the only ones who made it to only out grow that group in which there are too many people wanting their time that the crowds we want to be in are invite only. There's still a couple of levels to climb

>>7654618
Improving art alone has always been cope by lonely weird kids. You grow exponentially more with community.

>>7654666
you truly do, competition and social pressure makes you better at everything you do. Your environment is responsible for the majority of your behaviors. Problem is every time I join some online shitty community the posts are far and few inbetween and when you join a more active one its plagued with hobbyists or the tumblr furry art kind of people that makes me sick to my stomach.

>>7654681
The majority is always going to be hobbyists but I'm in a lot of art servers and none of them are tumblr furry infested.

>>7654666
>>7654681
you just validated my point though. yes community is by far the fastest way to grow as a person, but the issue is the communities you have access to are no good and will do more harm than good. ben franklin founded his own self improvement with super strict standards back in the day because it's so easy to regress.

in fact, you're proving my point also by misunderstanding the original post and showing that trying to talk about stuff here is a waste of time. i should just privately vent into a .txt file instead because it would have the same effect.

>pronouns on twitter interacted with me
Instant block on sight is the best way to safeguard yourself, right?

>>7655224
>to safeguard yourself
against what?

>>7655227
Those who know know. If you don't know you likely have pronouns displayed on your twitter.

>>7655229
I'm not a fan of those people, I'm just asking. whether tendencies you're obviously implying with your last post weren't as clear in the one prior. don't know why you can't just plainly say it.

I thought about using myself as reference but stripping down to your underwear and taking pictures is sort of unnerving.

>>7655231
>whether
whatever*

What do you do when a post of yours finally bangs? I'm used to double digit likes and 1-2 comments that I always respond to.
But an image I did fucking banged and there's a bunch of people commenting and posting gifs and it's a bit overwhelming. Do I have to respond to all of them?

>>7655231
You don't know what they're known for doing to people who call out their mental illness for what it is?

>>7655248
>call out their mental illness for what it is
you didn't say anything about that in your initial post, only vaguely about a scenario where they "interacted with you."

>>7655255
I'm not planning to talk with them or even share any opinions but my art itself makes it clear I oppose their kind.

>>7655257
>I'm not planning to talk with them or even share any opinions
I'm not sure why you even brought up calling out their mental illnesses, then. but either way, how you should proceed depends on your goals. if you're trying to "make it" in some larger way, and want to try to stay under the radar in terms of potential drama, I'd keep a general habit of minimal responses to your posts, even if it's a troon reproaching you - unless they're doing it non-stop or something. but if you don't care, then just block them and be done with it.

>>7655260
I just want to preemptively safeguard myself from any future situations. If I go for full Japanese larp I will ignore them, but if I ever reveal I'm an English speaker then they'll feel like it's ripe territory for attack.

Is muting better than blocking? Now that I think about it, blocking is giving them attention.

>>7655244
I wouldn't know but congrats anon. Just don't do anything stupid I suppose

>>7655262
>Now that I think about it, blocking is giving them attention.
not just that, but if enough of them "catch on" from your block pattern, that could be enough to make a charge against you. so yeah, minimal active engagement on your account and muting accounts you don't wanna see interactions from is probably a good general approach.

>>7655267
Yeah that makes sense, thanks anon.

WHERE'D ALL THESE FUCKING BEETLES COME FROM

>>7655244
I don't think you have to respond to all of them, but I heard it helps the engagement stuff to reply to some of them at least. You get bonuses for starting discussions, basically
>>7655468
someone's dumping beetles inside the /ic/ water cooler again? Wait till HR hears about this

I bled onto my fucking drawing

>>7655244
Only reply to the ones with lots of followers

>>7655264
I had a great idea for a drawing and was just drawing it thinking "yeah this drawing will be goated" though I expected like 50 likes or so, not this. You just have to keep honing your skills until inspiration like that comes Anon.

>>7655477
Mmm I was thinking if I had to do it to be corteous. Like, am I expected to thank everyone? I used to think those posts with "omg thank for le bajillion likes" messages were just obnoxious, but now that I'm in that position it does feel overwhelming and kinda fake to write a lot of "thank you :)" copypasted messages.

>>7655610
Lame. I try to give attention to people regardless of their following. In fact when I give too many nice comments to big accounts I look out for people with small followings and give them nice comments too. Everyone deserves a bit of encouragement, instead of treating it as something transactional where you only pay attention to the big dogs and the rest of the plebs with not enough followers can suck it. Imo it's sad to think and act like that.

>>7655610
Think of the times your favorite nip artist gave you a comment when you had few followers. What a way to live if you actually do that.

>>7655661
>nice comments
When I get nice comments I just think you're playing the game. I only take comments from people who doesn't have art as their entire personality seriously

What's the deal with this board? I checked three generals and they had some sort of schizos rambling on.

>>7655794
Treat the resident schizos like furniture. You'll get used to them.

>>7655794
There's no post history to check if someone is severely mentally ill
And they have probably been banned out of every other art site
As long as they talk about art their posts technically go here, even if they are extremely negative, mentally ill people that just try to make others give up just as they did

>>7655794
Unsurprisingly covid babies don't know how to interact with other people

>>7642676 (OP)
I don’t know really just feels like a hard slug learning anatomy and quick sketch for head been drilling it daily some days more some days less due to sickness.

would be awesome if someone started a new active draw activity thread,
>like the multi-multi keyword roll charts or like..uh
>sketch a quick composition based on the song embedded in the prev post while you listen,
embed a new song for the new post,
or something something cool that will get people to draw…

there aren’t any of sort of thing running right now, just mostly lots of text filled itts in the catalog

>>7655579
SOVL

>>7655224
>Instant block on sight is the best way to safeguard yourself, right?
No, the best way is to post something rather innocuous and normal but which will piss them off.
Like if you're a coom artist draw porn of a character they decided to use as some kind of "gender-political icon" as a normal guy/girl. Make femboy art of bridget using the XX design and call him "he", draw Kris from deltarune as a guy or a girl and call him "he" or "she", draw that ghost Vivian from Paper Mario as a normal woman, etc.
Just examples, but something along that vibe of "committing a heresy that most people don't give a shit about", apply the logic to something else if you're a SFW artist or a different sort of coom artist.

>>7655244
>>7655661
Reply to a few and then mute the thread. Most of those people won't continue to follow or interact anyway, most likely. See picrel for how to view these situations - temporary windfalls of numbers.
Back to normal with a boosted baseline in a week or two. Don't fall for the trap of twisting yourself into not to hold on to the virality, it will burn you.

Don't do the impersonal thank-you posts it's useless.

>>7655838
>There's no post history to check if someone is severely mentally ill
You learn to see the retarded patterns in peoples' posts and it helps innoculate you against crazies outside of here.
If you want to use peoples' post histories to attack them you can gb2reddit any time you want to!

I lost my shit at work today. Like bitched out hard. How does one fix things? Doesn't matter anyway , I quit. Maybe now I can finish a fucknig drawing for once.

>>7656671

Go back and act like nothing happened. You at least want to collect unemployment.

>>7656668
>think about how troons react when making your art
Likely the most malicious advice here.

For those who work on commission, do you take days off? I usually work every day at all hours, with hardly anything else to do except clean the house. Sometimes I allow myself a two-hour break each day, but I've been thinking it would be nice to take weekends, or at least Sundays, off.

>draw something I kinda like
>post it and go to bed
>I wakeup hating it, wow this is awful I should've done so much different I suck so much
>up a bunch of followers somehow and people commented

how does this happen, how do I see nothing but trash but people somehow like it

>>7657803
like is there a term for this, the mental issue or the huge different in one perceiving their own art vs the audience's perception?

>>7657997
Media Literacy

>>7657803
It's called delusion, artist delusion. You spent time on it and at the moment it feels good but it us actually trash.

I want to get more into drawing comics to flesh out story ideas in my head, what are my best resources /ic/

>>7658352
read the sticky

man...deja vu left and right today what's going on

>>7654277
If you hate drawing that much just use AI and trace over it, no one will know

recently just quit my job and i wanna try starting a social media acc while i look for another. anyone have any tips for growing a following?

>>7648327
>go to gym for first time
>can't bench 100lbs
>ask swole gymbro for tips
>he tells me hard work and consistency will pave the way
>he must be hiding something

>>7659437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx7lpRZqjA8

>>7659437
you quit your job with that level of art? oh no no no

>>7659458
i like this guy's tutorials surprised i missed this

>>7659470
i quit my job because i didnt like it and i want something better not to pursue art full time fart ass

>>7659474

In this economy? Oh dear.

>>7659477
now that critique ill accept haha
im too young to waste away for some corpos ill get it sorted

>>7659489
If you're between 18 - 25, sure. Just don't waste time. Beyond that, big mistake.

>>7659489
Don't really listen to that other anon about age, but don't waste time. That does for everything that you will do from now on.
You shouldn't even be here, just go draw and don't let anymore time slip past your fingers

>>7659477
This. If you're looking to quit a job without having another backed up, you may want to do it a month or two before the fiscal year- after that's when most companies do their hiring after finalizing the budget and setting new goals. But hey, you'll have all the time in the world to fill out job apps which is the real fun.

>>7659624
funny this popped up in my suggestions. google is watching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50XE3FfmW2U

Why's everyone making their characters morbidly obese these days? I swear every once in awhile I'll see something like this and nobody seems to have a problem with it.

>>7659930
this guy had the time of his life designing this character while I'm sitting on 4chan mindlessly scrolling catalogs of shit I don't even care about because I don't have the energy to commit to drawing

>>7659930
They're not. The algorithm serves you what you engage with.

>>7649120
no my point is that the westoid shit is inherently born from self hating western guys with a genuinely unhealthy fixation with anime that leads to them treating it as a spiritually different medium of art, as such placing it way beyond their reach, if someone is unironically talking about "westoids" then they will never actually draw in an anime style they like because their whole worldview hinges on anime being intrinsically different from every other art medium, which logically extends to also assuming that its something you either have or not
basically if you are that traumatized over western art existing then you should just stop drawing because you aint gonna make shit that you like unless you are reborn as a purebred jap

>>7659930
this would be a cool character design if you removed the obesity flab details

My progress these past few months has been awesome, I can't believe I didn't use references until recently. My skills were incredibly stagnant beforehand its almost embarrassing lol

This board is done

>>7660681
Your mom is done and that's why I left her.

no art
only shit
posts empty reply

Soft blocked every single one of my followers again

>>7660050
>as such placing it way beyond their reach
it literally is technically beyond the reach of most westerners because they lack the skills, most just can't draw like that even if they hate to admit it. self-hating westoids are the ones who will deny any differences between anime and contemporary westoid art, likely to give themselves an excuse to be mediocre. loving anime and wanting to master it isn't self-hating.

>which logically extends to also assuming that its something you either have or not
yeah but it's not gene based. you either have learned the skills needed to draw it like the Japanese or you haven't. being raised in the west comes with a certain baggage that can significantly hamper this process of learning, that's all.
he's >>7642757 not traumatized over something existing, he's in pain about not being able to meet a very high standard that he likes. should be relatable to anyone serious about art.

how do you help a friend that has been /beg/ for years?

>>7661655
You don't. You can't. Let them go.

>>7661655
>>7661658
>You don't. You can't.

This. You can't make anyone do anything, and if they are /beg/ for years they have years of bad habits built up and eventually their ego will get in their way telling them they know what to do and that they'll do it "Their way" and fall back into the cycle. If you really want to help your friend tell them to join a school or someshit so it isn't your problem and it doesn't hinder your relationship, I don't think you should drop them if you like hanging, it's okay to have friends better than you and not so better- as long as they aren't trying to crab you.

>>7661655
Tell them to give up. If you've been drawing for more than a year and aren't at least /int/ then you have some sort of learning disability that makes it impossible. If they were actually capable they would have at least studied SOMETHING by now that would have helped.
Starting out learning to draw is when it's easiest to learn because you just learn new concepts all the time you should be able to immediately apply just by someone explaining it to you. The higher you go in art the more frustrating it gets to learn new things because everything new you learn becomes about little novel and situational details that are easily forgettable. You start to plateau

>>7659930
this is a fucking blackpill dude


guys how do i stop being a jerk

>>7660681
i used to make fun of the "4chan has fallen" shit until i realized the only shit that gets attention and engagement are low effort absolutely brainless social media screenshot threads. i get what they were saying now

>get artblock
>study gorillas and monkeys out of a whim
>it's fun
>haven't had this much fun since being a 1st year /beg/

>didn't realize I posted a lower res version of my art
>already been up for weeks and it already has likes and comments
Any of you ever had stupid fuck ups like this? I don't know how I should re-up or if that's even necessary, maybe repost with a quote to the original post?

>>7661965
yeh
I forget about it and move on to the next piece

>>7661969
guess I'll just wait for one of those "post your art" comment chains to repost then

Whats the best way to get commissions when you have sub 100 followers? just draw more fanart for different things in hopes of reaching a wider audience? advertise yourself on discord servers?

>>7662383
>advertise yourself on discord servers?
Basically this, word of mouth is the only thing that Ive seen that consistently works.

>>7662383

>>7662444
>just cuff and gargle semen for followers
No thanks. The algo will do its job eventually.

>>7662444
>just play the lottery and attract weirdos and bots
i post naked lady i get 10 billion followers

>>7662420
yeah i just got a couple thru my friends, any way i can find discord servers? specially if i draw super niche deplorable shit
>>7662444
i have one artist in mind that always retweets fanart no matter the quality i was gonna do that yeah, hard to find any that wouldnt block me on sight though

>>7662444
>>7662825
I mean I've seen big artists retweet fan art from very small artists but if the art itself isn't any good it usually doesn't get much attention

>>7662833
this is obviously assuming im decent (i think)

So I’ve self diagnosed myself as having a severe case of aphantasia. Are there any good exercises to deal with this condition?

the world of indie gamedev is lonely as an artist. All the drawfags are only interested in making porn on twitter, and I tried looking in /agdg/ and it looks like the majority of people there are just techbros trying to obtain passive income

drawing every day is impossible, my brain refuses to follow a schedule. It would rather draw all day one day and then do nothing for 3 days. Being able to do something every day is a sheep mentality, I'm a wolf.

>>7663488
>drawing every day is impossible
if you have any free time at all, it's not
>my brain refuses to follow a schedule
more likely better put that you put (and have put for some time) yourself in situations which promote less order, less consistency.
>Being able to do something every day is a sheep mentality, I'm a wolf
cringeworthy rationalization

I forgot to say, by drawing I mean creating good finished pieces, not just studying.

THERE'S TOO MANY RETARDS. EVERYWHERE I GO IS FULL OF RETARDS. THEY'RE JUST DISCUSSING ECELEB AND CELEB DRAMA OR THE LATEST SHITTY AAA GAME WE ALL AGREE NONE OF US ARE GONNA PLAY. EVEN HERE THEY'RE JUST DISCUSSING ECELEB DRAMA AND HOW TO GET TWITTER FOLLOWERS. NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT CREATING THINGS ACK

>>7663637
wining about it'll help. do that for the rest of your life, see where it gets you.

stylization is so hard

i've considered myself anti-censorship entirely to this point but I'm start to consider if maybe the internet would be a better place if all the coomers were pushed into hidden corners of the web away from everything else. I kind of hate that it feels like the main purpose of art online these days it just to create slop for coomers

>>7663681
>thinking they'll stop at just porn
Fucking retard

>>7663682
>le slippery slope fallacy
fucking retard

>>7663685

Porn drawings today your eggs and gas tomorrow. I don't see how you can sit there and watch the burning in real time and say it's fine.

>>7663710
this is fearmongering. what further capitulation companies, organizations, bodies, and individuals will make to processor payment companies beyond this point remains to be seen. it's not like at a certain point people don't have the power to voice their opinion (in the proper way(s)) to put these companies in "check"; or that these companies don't already have limits, that they're not just gonna adhere to every request some NGO makes.

>>7663728
>remains to be seen
We shouldn't even be at this point, sir. The job of a payment processor is to be my bitch and get money from point A to point B. This shouldn't be a conversation in the first place.

>>7663732
>This shouldn't be a conversation in the first place
why not?

>>7663737
I just explained why.

>>7663738
you asserted why, but that's not an argument. I'm asking for an argument.

>>7663741

I'm not arguing with you.