If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates or howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

>Cool teachers
Glenn Vilppu
Michael Hampton
Steve Huston
Brent Eviston
Marco Bucci
Andrew Loomis
George Bridgman
Hikaru Hayashi

>Cool books
Keys To Drawing
Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way
The Art and Science of Drawing
Framed Perspective
Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
The Complete Guide to Drawing From Life
Last: >>7675837

I wish I had talent.

>>7678022
This is a no demoralization thread crab, you've been warned.

enoughtjfdggff

goddammit, posted twice in the wrong place now: third time's the charm:
>>7677926

>>7678023
behead all talented rats

>>7678022
Anon, you just have to wish it! Look up at the stars and wish it real hard, and it will come true!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2zzXBg3FcI

>>7678014 (OP)
>tfw my elle didn't make it but my giantess milf did
Oh well

>>7678027
Actually, I should just repost the whole thing to make it easier:

Damn, this stuff is all beginner level? I feel extra bad posting this but YOLO
>staff user OC
I do not know how to draw, this is my first thing and it took me almost an entire hour, constantly referencing poses online. I'm pretty proud of the hands, which took 75% of the time, but I hate the face and don't know why, just looks wrong. Please help, and just provide any tips or anything really (aside from what's in OP ofc) Also, I'd really appreciate if you can point out what details you can actually discern; I wanna know if I was able to properly convey what I was envisioning or if it's just getting muddled. Also this is my first time on this board, so sorry if I posted in the wrong place, but it seems correct.

>>7678014 (OP)
HUMILIATION RITUAL

>>7678031
sorry I missed it I'm on mobile so collecting was hard

>>7678014 (OP)
I believe Pawell was here before 2021

Just draw 1360
process https://youtu.be/8TzhRavkN8U

>>7678038
AAAAIIIIEEEEEE

>>7678034
>>7678034
lower eyes and shorter nose might help, its too long overall. and the chin is rather low for this face. this is the right thread for sure and its pretty good for your skillset. copying well is the first step to getting good. thats how we learn all things.

>draw trad
>color in digital
Finding my groove, this is comfy

>>7678014 (OP)
nice op but pawell isnt dead
>>7677252
mogs mine desu

>>7678058
>nice op but pawell isnt dead
Everyone who stops drawing might as well be dead.

>>7678058
looks rlly good grater fren

>>7678034
that*s a pretty good learning subject, you have different materials on the clothes, he has a staff so you always have something he can interact with. There are interesting characteristics in the design, it's not too bloated either.

Shaolin monk reference picture are going to be your friend for action poses including staffs. The jacket will turn into a massive crutch so you might wanna drop it for your studies and just go with a bare chest until you get it or add it afterwards on top

good luck newbab

>>7678042
Thanks anon, will try this next session and see how it turns out, but it already sounds better in my head with your tweaks.
>>7678065
thanks! So the design itself is good for learning purposes, but how is my technique? I had a LOT of trouble with getting the bent arms to not look hilarious; I'm happy with how they turned out, but I think they could be better. Thanks for the shaolin monk tip, don't know how I didn't think of that. Also, how will the jacket be a crutch? Is it because I can "skip" drawing what it's covering?

>>7678058
Why do all your women look like what a very homosexual man thinks a sexy woman is? It has good perspective, draftsmanship and expression but it is trying too much to be sexy.

Meido

>>7678058
Mogs permabegschizo by the mere fact that it has good perspective and a face.

Took all day but I finished it

warmin up

>>7678021
My most detailed drawings actually only take around 10 to 15 *worked* hours. But since I have a 7 to 5 job I only get to draw a little bit everyday and all those hours get scattered for several weeks and sometimes an entire month.

1 min gestures
>>7678075
Better than before but still looks quite flat

>>7678079

Making some good progress on my current piece

>>7678081
What's the point of doing 30 1 minute gestures of the same pose?

>>7678087
The first one sucked so much that I felt like i didnt "learn" unless i corrected my mistakes and did it well.

>>7678067
>because i can skip stuff
yeah basically, eventually you wanna learn how the clothes should look like, but knowing how the actual body underneath should be drawn is a building block for that, the cloak is bulky so it's gonna be a "hide hands behind the body" type of crutch unlike more skintight clothes like a regular shirt f.e.
>tech
honestly you are just scribbling away but that's fine. you still lack alot of anatomical knowledge (duh). Learn from references, turning a photographed ref into a line drawing is already a huge task.

>>7678077
sorry anony, but it's gonna be hard to give specific advice if you don't pyw. 10-15 hours ranges from incredibly fast to super slow depending on what you're making.

>>7678069
i dont follow, are you talking about the bodytype?

Who needs help, you will be redlined by an allegedly Asian pedophile, you will be graded too. Post fresh drawings

>>7678075
choose an easier ref next time, preferably something that shows the naked pelvis/legs and neck/shoulder areas

>>7678091
Fine... let's say this one took me 10 hours.

>>7678094
i'd rather redline myself, but thank you for your service

can we get a non coom thread challenge? maybe something with values

>>7678098
oh god...here we go...time for the thread to go crazy

>>7678101
AAHHhhhhh that's why I didn't want to post

>>7678098
anon...
jk, imo it's too early to focus on speed or money
just keep drawing

>>7678100
Post something perhaps?

>>7678103
these lines are very straight repetitive and technical for a beg so i understand why it took that long as an adult. theyre goos! theyre not shakey and i think its lacking in style more than anything. dont regret posting. feedback will help you get better.

>>7678100
if you're so above coom, you should use at least your terminology right.

>>7678106
im a beg in values who doesnt even have an eye for what makes a good value study or not. spoodfeed me and my life is yours

>please let this be a normal beg thread
>With these permabegs? No way
*cue the /beg themesong*

i bought a little sketchbook to draw on the go with
>>7678098
i like

>>7678105
It's an older drawing. I've gotten better. No I won't post my recent stuff. What matters is that I know that there are bigger begs than me who are already doing comissions. So is not my skill level that I'm worried about. It's just my pacing.

>>7678098
Do you need help? I can redline and show you the way.

>>7678116
No anon, thanks.

belated contribution to last thread.
Haven't posted in a while, wanted to give that dynamic pose a go.

>>7678119
very cool nonnie

>>7678113
I recognize your drawings, and it's fine to do commissions if you want
the problem is that it's not at the level where focusing on speed would help

>>7678119
Excellent stuff anon
I'm glad some people picked up on the pose

>>7678079
I agree especially her face. I have a lot of trouble adding depth to anime faces once they're colored.
>>7678097
Will do. I've been meaning to study the neck and shoulder area in detail for a long time, I'll take this as a sign to start.

>>7678119
mogs me. looks so good. vibrant and alive

>>7678099
The amount of arrogant females and jealous nodraws just ruins the thread. It's always good to ask for help if you want to improve or have better understanding of your own art. I just think they are faggots with huge egos. Captcha: RGAY2

>>7678119
noticed the helmet is a bit flat, giving him a tiny head. Fixed it, but don't want to spam with a repost.

>>7678121
>the problem is that it's not at the level where focusing on speed would help
I don't get it. I know my skills aren't that good yet, but I don't mind. If I could just draw faster without reducing quality even more then I'd be happy.

>>7678124
>>7678120
>>7678122
thanks, kind anons

>>7678094
How convenient. Can I get some help with the background?

maybe an architecture challenge? i have something in mind, but it could be too complicated

>>7678128
>f I could just draw faster without reducing
speed comes with experience. do several smaller pieces. its like grinding low level mobs in a videogame at first and then do the boss battles later when you leveld up a little

>>7678132

>>7678133
So... It's just gonna take me years either way? I... I'm don't feel so good...

>never liked drawing from the childhood
>but still want to make fan art that's not some worthless ai slop
anyone else who doesn't like drawing?

>>7678131
Saw this before, only fresh drawing.

resorted to 3D help once again… more
> Gay fish ghost old man pirate ass incest

>>7678141

>>7678142
Permabegschizo and russianschizo

>>7678141
What anon said. Choose between leveling up masturbation or artistic skill

>>7678134
not a good reference photo

>>7678144
nyo...

Oh?

>>7678141
it’s not as slow as you think it is. But if you try to force yourself to go faster it might slow you down..

drawing still life helped me draw faster. That and if you catch yourself focusing too hard on a specific section of the drawing, move on to a random different part of it.

>>7678149
>>7678147
I was unironically counting on this for some extra money. I'll really have to get another job then... fuuuuuckkk I don't want tooo

I'm so slow

tried drawing a bloodborne sho, I think he turned out cute. it was really tough doing the outfit, I had a ref for the pose and the outfit both separately, but I'm not sure if I got the turned perspective right or did it particularly well
that and the fabric folds were driving me crazy
I think the best part is the fabric fold in the left elbow lol I know that's a really specific part but it looks organic imo
his right arm looks too long and maybe his torso is straight compared to relatively mobile legs
the sway of the longer robes was really challenging bc the reference didn't really have anything like it, and the ref was a still reference so I cost to just wing it rather than trying to spend ages finding another reference but I think it looks moderately alright

>>7678142
for me it's an acquired taste

>>7678155
Lmao it’s sad how many people want to draw for extra money. You live in a time where free ai like Stable Diffusion can be easily used by anyone with a frontal lobe, patience and google gemini to help set it up.

Draw for the passion or nothing else.

>>7678157
adorbs .. wish i could play bloodborne

>>7678153
Good numbers if sfw

>>7678155
anon you dont really seem to have like a stylistic flair (yet!) and in this day and age (ai) no one is going to be buying art from someone who doesn't have an appealing art style like its not technical skill, there are other people doing comms below your level but its yknow, charisma, their reach, pure luck...etc.

>>7678160
I bought a used PS4 years ago just to play bloodborne and honestly it was definitely worth it, but only bc it scratched an itch nothing else did
I sucked at it too when I started, iirc I died to gascoigne like at least 40 times if not 60+, and istg by the time I made it to the orphan (which was after multiple new games and new game pluses and builds for each weapon type), I killed him on the first try somehow
I'm too scared to fight him again bc I know I won't be able to do it again lol but yeh, if I could improve at bloodborne like that then drawing is possible I think

>>7678163
if you gain an appealing style that can be easily replicated by ai and you make over 200 pieces of art, you will be replaced by ai.

Unless you appeal to niches. even then, you will be replaced eventually.

Ai has trouble replicating some cartoon styles though.

>>7678164
I couldn’t make it past the undead burg area with the charging boar and getting to the bonfire behind the gate on dark souls 1. I don’t think i could even play bloodborne if i owned it ..

>>7678168
>Ai has trouble replicating some cartoon styles though.
For now

>>7678163
>Charisma, personal flair, humor, yadda yadda.
That's not an issue. I have it all planned out. The only problem is still my speed... and skill.

>>7678153
do you use japanese tags?

So what do I do with this

>>7678176
Sometimes, things in life don’t go as planned, brother. Art is a craft, not something like plumbing or engineering that you can will yourself into learning and mastering with a “plan” and rake in money from.


Do it for passion or turn back.

>>7678162
Twas just a very crude goonfuel sketch to see if I was "ready"

>>7678179
うん

>>7678189
Here you go, a better reference

>>7678185
You don't get it. I am passionate. I'm always gonna be drawing no matter what. I was just hoping I could use art as a way out of being a wagie... That's all.

Gooner 1 min gestures...time to sleep now
>>7678189
Cute :D

>>7678070
Looks pretty good. Try and steady your linework.

>>7678202
>want to get better at art
> don't want to seek help
>arrogance
You deserve it

for a game

who do you think are the most technically skilled rendergods? also, i don't see people trying to make that kind of vidya illustration here, i think there was an anon doing lol art studies but i don't think i've seen him around.

>>7678208
Broken shoulder.

>>7678076
>>7678112
Wonderfully done

i think he's cute, may keep drawing him

>>7678207
NTA but it's not about wanting to make money out of art, it's about being able to make art all day everyday precisely because you're passionate about it, and that could only happen if I could make at least *some* money out of it

>>7678212
thanks friend!

mermaid doodle after work. critique appreciated

>>7678220
YES! That's a big part of it. I just want more time to do the things I like at will. And that includes drawing. Imagine not having to work and having all the time in the world to make my manga.... God... WHHYYYYY?

>>7678220
You can't if you don't improve. You either ask for help or pay to go to art school to get help.

really want to get better at drawing full figures but i feel like i'm already struggling with "figure drawing for all it's worth"...

>>7678038
Do you draw anything for fun or do you just mindlessly practice drills?

>>7678223
I like her face but the proportion is off. You made the top of her head too short.
Also please excuse the shitty redline.

>>7678229
That's good anon. Keep going. I think you'll improve but not if you doubt yourself at at every drawing. It takes time.

This should be good enough as a dress up doll for initial clothing studies, don't wanna go too crazy on the pose for that.

>>7678014 (OP)
Aieehhh not the tongue
>>7678119
this is really cool

>>7678141
speed is just making less mistakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx9NjK2aUeE

>>7678225
Just start working on your manga right away, mate. Character bios and designs, story notes, tentative panels, etc. Start right away and don't make the mistake of grinding fundies before it

>>7678226
I take all the help I can, I'm studying all the time as well, frankly I think my "issue" at this point is not so much my skill level but rather that online etiquette fills me with anxiety

i think he's done for now

>>7678246
Anon, that kind of skill only comes with experience. Most of the time when I spend too long on a drawing it's either because I'm trying to follow reference or because I'm trying to figure *how* to do something (aka being a clueless beg). So it's true. It will take me years. Well, enough of this. I'll spam the thread no further.

>>7678254
very cool design. very unique idea, i havent seen that before. combining something pretty with something evil is a great concept

>>7678253
>online etiquette fills me with anxiety
i know that feeling but most platforms are very sanatized now and botted to hell so its rather comfy. theres lots of catfishers and scammer everywhere though, so keep your personal info to a minimun. i was and still am like you. some guy with 17k followers retweeted my stuff and i got legit nervous for a moment, but thank god it petered out and not much attention came my way. step by step.

>>7678253
>Just start working on your manga right away, mate
I was... until I got in my head that I could quit my job by doing comms. "If I can pull that off, then I can work on my manga full-time!" I thought... So I shelved my manga and started all this pursuit.

>>7678014 (OP)
Why did you cut my poor Ruuko's head like this?
>>7678220
Or you can become wealthy enough that you could draw everyday without worry about getting money from it. Or having a specific kind of work that gives you opportunities to draw.

Is there a discord server for this? None of them work in the sticky.

>>7678236
I actually tried making it shorter and rounder to match the body more but I dont know how well I did. I think I just made it look wonky in a different way. wish this looked more I don't know....grown up? advanced? I want to level up

i sketched this in 7 minutes a few weeks ago, how do I learn to stop sketching so much? It's fun and I learn from having fun but I feel like it muddies up my drawings too much very often
>>7678142
I like drawing funny stupid things but I wanna get good enough to draw something really cool, like out of a 90s swedish metal album cover

>>7678081
>>7678088
>first one sucked so much that I felt like i didnt "learn" unless i corrected my mistakes and did it well.

They all suck because this isn't gesture drawing. Learn the "bean" and drawing using "CSI" even using the advance stick figure. Look up Proko's free vids and just follow that I don't think you're really getting anything from this.

>>7678058
my attempt
this was difficult desu

>>7678260
thanks (:

>>7678271
discord is a distraction (and so is /ic/, but at least this board is slow), just draw

>>7678202
Look, I used to be just like you, drawing since i was very little. I couldn't afford college and immediately had to work in retail when I graduated hs. I was sick of it so instead of art I taught myself computer science. this was before ai. I think that's the better route, since you'll get paid well and you will have time to draw.

>>7678156
>>7678229
>>7678277
>>7678131
GMI!!

more penises
love when a guy buries my face in his crotch so I have to huff his groin to breathe in between him fucking my throat so deep I can't breathe, it really gives me the artistic inspiration to keep drawing and writing

>>7678345
am I ngmi :(

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>7678237
i'd like to especially since i only did a bit of FWAP years ago when i first tried to start drawing, but it feels kinda intimidating with how he mentions you should study and copy these 2-3 times, and right after this it starts throwing in drawing proportions relative to perspective

>>7678346
i love you so much Paige chan

>>7678131
the bg is in different perspective than the character
Try to match a box to the background reference then try to match one to your character
>>7678069
this nigga always drops the most incomprehensible takes on my drawings then refuses to elaborate
>>7678060
he drew something this year
>>7678076
big headed
>>7678081
>>7678205
youre not achieving anything by doing this

>>7678355
y-you too nonny

Still… a wip…
I need to redye my green bangs again, they look yellow now

>>7678360
reminds me of the whathappensnext webcomic

>>7678368
I looked it up and can’t get over how the ears are drawn in the first two images
It’s definitely a thing that was made in 2021

I-i-i am not gonna m-make it bros...

>>7678014 (OP)
thank u for making a real OP.
i was just filling in that one time :)
great work everyone!

>>7678206
Thanks. I keep getting nervous and choke

>>7678070
mogs me

>>7678375
i gave up long ago

>>7678303
stfu talented rat

>>7678356 >file.png
cool mullings.

>>7678360
i love everything about this, dude.
yep, was about to list them, but it’s literally everything.

>>7678268
>>7678058
sex

>>7678014 (OP)
oh hell yeah based op

>>7678112
so cute

>>7678119
i like how this turned out
>>7678160
bloodborne pc when ?
>>7678164
> gascoigne like at least 40 times
me but with ludwig, bastard hit so hard my framerate was 20

>>7678254
he will rip you a new one for a crumb/10 (cool design)

>>7678360
>comic sans
>blue text on red

I cant draw faces

>>7678303
That doesn't seem like much of an issue. If you can get a sketch out quickly that gives you more time to clean it up with more intentful lines.

>>7678415
It’s a wip, I’m changing the text color later on, though my love for comic sans won’t change

There is no hope for me. No hope at all.

>>7678134
i messed up towards the end there with the sizes and perspective, but i just went off the cuff to see how i would fare, no presketching. fun little exercise desu, i should do it more. maybe something less complicated though lol

>>7678427
very nice, gj

>>7678406
Thank you, dawg

>>7678426
quit your job

How long do you guys spend on a drawing usually?, this took me 4 hours, also please critique

>>7678432
Thanks but I have nobody to care for me.

>>7678390
I’m sure it doesn’t

>>7678434
mogs me

Doesnt know shit about anatomy award

>>7678436
Believe me. It does.

>>7678434
would milk. four hours sounds a lot but hey, whatever gets you there. you probably spent half the time literally jerking around, heh. the face looks kinda simple compared to the pose and the body, if had to be critical, but the booba came out nicely shaped imo. and i like big nipples myself, maybe i'm a little biased

>>7678434
Long solid lines, anon. No more scritch scratching.

>>7678434
You're doing great, just try using stabilization for the lines

>>7678434
>Better faces and bodies and everything than permabegschizo
lol

>>7678413
monke!

>>7678448
Permabegschizo has better tits

>>7678456
pretty depressing ngl

Sir, another viral post Nihu.
He is at 10000 followers now.

Is drawabox supposed to suck?

>>7678458
he's at 8.8k

How do you guys think I'm doing so far? Reg's design has more details than I thought, but I'm gonna try drawing all of them.

>>7678460
it's fine

>>7678463
Are you doing this with no ref?

>>7678466
No, I've got a couple of ref's, that's how I noticed the tassels he has on the collar and his cape.

>>7678070
Are you that same anon?

>>7678466
This is also the ref I'm using. Or at least one of them.

>>7678481
That explains why it seems so cursed. Maybe I should try drawing a boy someday too...

drawing guide

>>7678487
The official guide though.

>>7678458
Fuck off favelamonkey

I was too cowardly to ink this

>>7678501
Ink it anon, you can’t make it worse than this

I can't draw faces.

>>7678487
whys he so smug

Came to the conclusion my knowledge in basic gesture was shallow so I'm starting from scratch using Hampton's gesture course. This junk was from yesterday.

>>7678463
Simple styles like made in the abyss are deceptively so and there's not a lot of wiggle room for mistakes. For the critique of the drawing Try making the arms more like cylinders and upping your accuracy when drawing.

What I would do if I were at your skill level and just wanted a better drawing of Reg, I would first trace the artwork making notes of why the artist chose the lines they did, then I would draw it again (You'll most likely see improvement) using those notes. When tracing keep it simple don't ad extra details like the shadow shapes because it can confuse you and if anything you can use the tracing as a simplified reference to align things and get proportions correctly.

>>7678509
Junk from today

>>7678434
Was the symmetry tool harmed in the making of this drawing?

>>7678458

>>7678518
ACK

Rough sketch, I have been trying to work on more interesting poses and setting ideas

>>7678442
He, thanks anon, I spent most time on the coloring and hair, as for the face, I couldn't think of ways of improving it, I also kind of cheated by hiding feet and hands.

>>7678443
>>7678445
ok, I'll work on my lines, thanks

>>7678518
Niggu bros??
our response??

>>7678510
Should I delete the arms and redraw them or just finish what I have so far?

>>7678518
Yikes. How would he react if someone were to say... post this on xitter?

>>7678516
No, I drew it on paper first then traced it

>>7678531
Don't delete. Put it at side and retry it from zero until you feel satisfied. It's easier to gasp differences like this.

>>7678510
>making notes of why the artist chose the lines they did
in most cases that's fine, but with tsukishi the answer is probably bc he felt it was erotic
for context, "Atom" in the pic is the Japanese name for Astro Boy

reg is fun to draw though even as smol doodles

I underestimated how hard hands were going to be

>>7678518
where did the reference for the jail pic come from)

>>7678463
You're really taking your time with this, aren't you

>>7678546
perfection can't be rushed and apparently neither can anon

>>7678525
i think this is cute anon. just add a bunch of cute stuffies or a fun print on the bedspread or something

>>7678549
>>7678546
This is the first drawing I've ever done of Reg lol

>>7678518
The doc remains unposted

>>7678553
try coping from the anime, i mean like a screenshot

>>7678501
MOGS ME.

>>7678559
>try coping
Freudian slippish truth nuke

>>7678525
Is that one of the shupos or the green fairy from black souls?

>>7678559
I don't know, I feel like the manga has the better art style.

>>7678518
He just keeps getting away with it

>>7678563
This is a character from ciconia when they cry. She is usually brash but has a cute scene about how she likes to sleep in on saturday mornings

>>7678553
How long have you been working on this piece?

>>7678569
Multiple days now because I keep on working on it in shifts. Sometimes I didn't work on it all. It's hard for me to fully commit to something every single day.

>>7678518
>>7678533
bro, im begging you please, PLEASE, leave me alone. i didn't do anything against anyone in this board, i always tried to treat anyone the better as i could, the AI refs was i mistake i didn't know it was AI i took it from pinterest i thought it was from the same 'artist' i already posted the timelapse proving i make my own drawings
i don't know why you're doing this to me, i really need this job to buy medicine for my mother, who has lupus. my father is currently unemployed and i was also unemployed 2 months ago
i'm begging you and everyone, just leave me alone i don't even post here anymore

each and every single thing about this is wrong

>>7678554
give me his @ and i will

>>7678572
kys

>>7678572
SHE HAS WHAT?

>>7678578
Systemic Lupus Erythematosus

SOMEONE POST IT ON HIS TWITTER

>>7678581
someone already posted
bro if you have a heart, let me live my life, it's already hard enough to have depression and and a mother battling an illness while being poor,
i'm begging you again, i need to help my parents

>>7678570
> It's hard for me to fully commit to something every single day.

It's hard for everyone yet the price to pay to get better at anything.

High as fuck on my patio

31 days in
Sketch from imagination.

Pls critique.

>>7678582
>>7678572
youre not actually him, just larping as that guy, post proof its you

>>7678586
For comparison, picrel is day 1 sketch from imagination.

>>7678360
I love comic sans, I’ll never stop using it
Anyway, I’ll be throwing rocks at him soon… trust

>>7678586
learn perspective and use ref

>>7678587
it's me, i'm being totally honest

>>7678572
Bro you were told that the refs were AI when you first posted those drawings and you said that you didn't care then. Why change the story now

>>7678581
BROS how do we tell him
https://x.com/Stelworny/status/1952802392015069389

>>7678595
that's very nice
but what about someone RELEASE THE DOC FILES

>>7678594
I am using perspective for the drawing. I'm eyeballing it to not get bored go death but hopefully that is visble. Could you point out where the perspective is fucked? (The picture is not and not supposed to be centered on the page by the way). Thank you.

And I do use refs for studies but drawing from imagination is fun and also helps in self assessment, I think. I do more studies than these imagination compositions anyway.

>>7678572
>PLEASE SAAR.
>PLEASE MU KID HAS BROKEN LEG AND A BROKEN NOSE AND HAS 3 LEGS
>PLASE SAAR DO NOT REDEEM
I hear this very same pity baiting drivel from pickpockets and shoplifters before raping them with my maglite at work.
Never works but BOY does it get me hard when they beg.

>>7678600
POST IT
O
S
T

I
T

im at the precipe of something
i thank the heavens for every defeat
>>7678586
you are hiding references under your floorboards are you not?

>>7678572
Are you lying again?

>>7678586
>>7678594
>>7678602
Fixed some issues that I could notice.

>>7678598
i never said that, it was only one ref that was posted like in march and i was really confused because people were saying "this is slop" not "this is AI", check the archives
anyways i never did that again

>>7678605
i don't know what to say bro, i already tried everything

>>7678608
no bro, i tried saying some stuff about my life i never said before to see if there's a bit of mercy, i don't know what more i can do

You guys are larping so hard, niggers know nobody cares.

>>7678613
Realistically the people on here aren't here for art advice, they're here for friends and community. No one wants to draw so they're putting on a little art play because they're bored and lonely.

>>7678613
this post is a psyop distraction to prevent the release of the doc

>>7678586
Your drawing mostly reads flat. The couch is kinda decent but everything else is skewed. You probably can't draw a box properly in perspective yet. Your figure is also very stiff and floaty. That right left arm isn't even connected to anything. I suggest doing gesture studies drawing from life to loosen you up, and then find some resources to help you understand and feel form. You probably aren't able to see the paper as 3D space yet.

>>7678607
I mean, depends on what you qualify as a reference?

I was just laying down so I just imagined what I'd look like from the back with a different pose for the legs and arms and drew that and drew a new room from imagination around it. Didn't copy or observe but I feel that you can sort of "feel" what pose you're in without observing with your eye.

>>7678611
But that lower left was also AI ref. So it wasn't just one time. To claim you never did it again is just not true. I don't really know what to think here

>>7678622
both were saved from pinteres, and there's nothing there that says it's AI, there's normal art and AI art mixed when you click it, i'm being honest when i say i didn't know
that one was when 4chan was down and i posted on 8ch, no one said anything, it really wasn't on purpose

>>7678602
>I'm eyeballing it to not get bored go death
right now every element is off perspective with each other (couch, window, table, book, tv)
learn to plot a perspective grid freehand to keep stuff consistent

>>7678622
m8 just sod off, not everyone is able to identify AI 100% of the time

>>7678611
I just wanted to test your reaction time nihu (sub 3 mins to block and hide thread)
for someone who doesn't come here anymore you sure keep a close eye in here!

>>7678615
>>7678616
Fucking retards, is that why everytime I redline you guys keep shitting on me. I'm just trying to help one /beg/ per thread. Just let me do my fucking thing and help those who need help. Niggers.

>>7678631
Your redline was SHIT.

>>7678631
post the doc

>>7678630
He most likely has some sort of alarm go off whenever something related to him is posted so he is first on the scene

>>7678630
>>7678635
i lurk sometimes, this place was a home for months
i also have friends from here

>>7678631
I just dump my shit in here since I have nowhere else to put it. If I get a critique from someone interested enough in replying to me then that's great.

>>7678637
A-a-am I your f-friend?

Ok low angles are hard

>>7678639
yeah, everyone was my friend, i don't know why some people attack me

>>7678639
permabeg chan is everyone's friend

>>7678634
The guy is just bluffing. There is no doc

>>7678644
>>7678643
r-r-rreally...? E-e-even if I CANT DRAW WORTH SHIT AAAAAAREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>7678572
you can blame subu for that since he comes in here astroturfing you constantly

where are the drawings why is there dumb drama text posting

>>7678651
what was your twitter again, i have a new account

>>7678651
Are you permabegschizo? you tried to help me in the beggining, i'll never forget that

>>7678652
it's not him, i don't think he posts here
it's nice to post here btw, i feel like some months ago, sadly i can't stay anymore

>>7678617
Fair. I can see where that comes from. I'll try to solidify the perspective first and see if that changes anything for the better.
>That right left arm isn't even connected to anything.
I'm afraid I don't see what you're trying to tell me here. Could you point it out on the picture please.

As for the pose stiffness, I'll work on it. Thank you.

>>7678628
I'll try unifying them into one and I'll keep in mind to do that in the future. Thank you anon.

Ok who is permabegschizo? Is it the guy who redline and grade? Or is it Pawell?

>>7678665
You have autism, right?

>>7678659
>i don't think he posts here
you clearly don't know him then, he's been doing this kinda shit for years.

reviewing arms from kim's anatomy

>>7678674
STILL WAITING FOR THE TWITTER POST

Total schizo death

>>7678669
Perhaps. I won't attempt to diagnose myself.

>>7678674
Happy boy world....
It's over now for nihu

>>7678665
Yeah sorry I had a brain malfunction while writing that. The left arm feels floaty because there's no indication of the shoulder moving with it, influencing a lot of the other muscle forms along with it as well. It basically feels like it's not attached to the body because of this, but honestly this isn't a problem you should be thinking about yet since it's more important that you loosen up first by drawing from life and building up your understanding of 3D space and forms which would help a lot when you're finally ready to tackle the more complicated stuff.

>>7678674
>>7678692
Same nodraw nigger faggots trying to drag me down with their drama, vendetta faggots, fatherless behavior. No thanks, I'm off to creating new things. I rather draw rori than participate in this shitty drama. If it is for marketing, good luck next time.

>>7676541
Page 18 done
>>7677334
>Your story is very engaging this time. If I had one criticism, it's the heroine's expression doesn't change enough even though she's giving them shit for what's happening. It makes her face come across as haughty but not really angry and at this point I can imagine her face souring a bit. Nice work all the same though, I'm looking forward to the struggle ahead.
Thank you so much! Yes, actually I thought the same as you when I saw the page almost done, and trying facial expressions was one of my goals here, but I do it so quick that I find myself trapped with a finished page and not enough time to redraw the faces again. I need to practice faces on the side.
>>7678610
Hey cool sketch!
>>7678607
This is great perspective work!
>>7678452
Cool face and composition!
>>7678427
This is real art!
>>7678254
This is a really nice piece deerbro!
>>7678183
Nice, give him a beard, and a hat
>>7678119
Woah! this is cool!
>>7678098
This is great for ten hours, I like the hand specially.

>>7678697
>I'm off to creating new things
did you mean prompting

>>7678014 (OP)
How do you learn to draw porn?

>>7678697
Post the loli

>>7678697
you got cursed the second you posted on /lsg/

Trying to make this feel sad and gross and wet.

>>7678706
You can only draw ART. "Porn" only applies to the capture of real human sexual activity via some camera device.

>>7678719
It's all of those things but probably not in the way you wanted it to be.

>>7678719
troon vibes

>>7678721
im listening

>>7678722
Wdym not in the way I want it to be? How do you know what I want to achieve? Lol..
>>7678724
that’s funny, people accuse me of being an egg because people are forgetting what butches are.

>>7678674
And still nothing is going to happen and the doc remains unposted

Back to the fundies for me I guess...

>>7678014 (OP)
ok face wip and silly glasses

>>7678743
If you gotta use 3d models at least use the good ones like the ones in csp

>>7678746
CSP has 3d models? I didn't know that.

>>7678747
Yep. They're pretty good for poses

1.5 hour painting
How is it

>>7678659
>Are you permabegschizo? you tried to help me in the beggining, i'll never forget that
>Permabegschizo helping nihu
Literally fucking how? Nihu started drawing better than fucking permabegschizo draws or will ever draw.

Can we kick out all the assholes who shit in a thread without drawings?

no thread challenge yet?

>>7678743
I don't mean to be rude but the model literally gives you simple shapes to work with so what the fuck are you doing.

>>7678752
Who's the biggest offender in your opinion?

>>7678751
Confusing schizos with other schizos is very common here.

>>7678754
Kinda the reason why I asked him to not use models like that.

>>7678754
It didn't occur to me and I was trying to get the general figure of it all without breaking it into small chunks.
>>7678748
I suppose next time I try drawing a person I'll see if my 100% legal copy of CSP lets me use them.

>>7678749
Yeah, it’s good

I have to apologize to these anons that took their time to send me these refs
>>7677738
>>7677737
>>7677734
I didn't draw them, but it was for a good reason. A friend came over and spent time with me! I don't really interact with people irl so I had to this time, i'll return to the grinding!!

>>7678743
This is just incredible to look at

>>7678764
Thanks anon

>>7678743
Not a single thing is drawn in the right orientation or proportion. How

I mogged your dad in bed last night XD

>>7678782
cute!

Anyone want a gooner drawing challenge?

>>7678786
Yes please?

>>7678786
dtiys

>>7678674

>>7678793
so smooth...

>>7678719
Another one,

how do I restore my passion for art? I draw everyday but without seeing any improvements I feel less and less motivated and draw less and less

>>7678815
do you have daddy issues

>>7678719
>>7678815
turn on the lights

>>7678816
plateaus are overcome by deliberate study

>>7678817
! does that mean you can tell who it’s supposed to be?
>>7678819
I take it the darkness is too much? I was trying to make it give off a horror vibe, but is it working against these pieces?

>>7678822
No, make them darker so I don't have to see them

>>7678617
>>7678628
>>7678665
Tried it. Looks better now I think.

>>7678695
Tried to fix it to the best of my ability. I'll be sure to practice more forms and 3d stuff too. Thank anon.

>>7678825

>>7678826
i like it anon!

>>7678822
the only way I could tell it was Bootstrap Bill was because of the starfish from the pic in the last thread
don't take it as a compliment though

>>7678804
Nihu got away with everything scot free and will reach 10 000 follower maybe even this month

>>7678825
meanie

>>7678832
> don’t take it as a compliment
how am i supposed to take it as? “i recognize who it is and that’s a bad thing!”
ok bro lol

stfu about nihu ohh my god you guys are so boring.

>>7678833
not if someone... hypothetically post "a certain image" on all of his posts from now
remember, I'm just saying hypothetically teehee

>>7678840
Report the spam

>>7678841
Honestly doubt it's gonna do anything. People who've been called out still get engagement anyway cause that's just how the algorithm is.

>>7678838
a pile of shit barely recognizable still remains a pile of shit

>>7678826
>>7678830
The left arm is too short, I think

I got 5 new followers out of nowhere and I am scared they will be disappointed in me.

>>7678822
>I was trying to make it give off a horror vibe
Look for [Ganto 18] if you want to do that type of horror porn, he's real good.

>>7678846
Okay, so the sketches are lacking in visual clarity.. perhaps it is the silhouette in the latest one? anything else?

>>7678850
That ended up being straight up poop, my dude

>>7678833
Grim

>>7678674
how to avoid accidentally referencing AI?
Shit is scary, AI looks just like real art, how can you even know.
Another fear unlocked.

>>7678749
amazing.
And good to know it's possible to do in 1.5h. Most stuff I like apparently took 10h+

>>7678858
Use human and manga ref only

>>7678858
Don't worry about it. If you do something from imagination some fag will do Image to Gen and make an AI version of it to create some fake drama. Get it? Nothing matters anymore. Just do your thing. Let the crabs seethe.

>>7678858
If you're using ref for stylization, know who you're trying to copy. If you're trying to improve, draw from life. Though, if you're just trying to copy someone's style might as well use AI.

>>7678820
How do I study exactly? Do I just copy study subject from references? If so, how exactly do I copy? I tried copying some stuff but I couldn't get it right since right from the start my shapes were wrong no matter what I did

>>7678858
what does it matter if you're referencing ai or not

>>7678591
extremely cute
i love both characters so much
>and that kinda never happens

Man even using stabilization it's hard to make correct lines, what should i do?

>>7678868
people are very upset abd cancel you, see thread. I cannot afford throwing years of practice away over nothing

>>7678878
trace hd manga pages
it worked for me

>>7678882
they will also cancel you if you "reference" real drawings so hard that they're traces with headswaps
Ai or not doesnt matter, people have been cancelled for tracing/photobashing over a decade ago
The real move is to just ignore it if you want to trace, if it's pretty and shiny people will click on it, moralfags always lose

>>7678867
You might just be tracing the contours. Start with gesture to get the flow, build simple forms to give it structure, then refine. Use negative space and check angles instead of blindly copying outlines. Compare proportions, use plumb lines, flip the canvas. Whatever helps you see better. If your shapes are off, it's because you're not actually seeing, you're just guessing. Apply these to your personal works and review to see what stuck and what you need to be working on.

>>7678859
Thanks
You can do a lot in that much time
Also the resolution was 900×1200

I would like to learn to draw like this. Concept stylized environment art. I want to learn this so I can make 3d art backgrounds for my game. Can someone give me good resources to start?

>>7678814
yeah it's airbrushed/filtered.

>>7678858
Use high quality reference and verify the creator. All great reference will be from good artists who credit their own work so it's easy to find out who made it.

>>7678911
Hire a concept artist

>>7678356
youre not achieving anything by doing this...see I can crab too...its not that hard when you give no tangiable advice

>>7678911
Are you a beginner? Drawing Basics to start of with the drawing fundamentals. Then a landscape course like Art Camp 3. Should be enough to get you started.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtG4P3lq8RHHMNwxuVk0IcGRtPGHi4vN9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWMMo1v594Y

Later on you could do a basic blender course, 3D would help speed things up, specially in the game art pipeline. Then some the more specific 2D/3D stylized environment courses. CGMA has a bunch of them and curriculums you can follow. You could follow one of their tracks exactly if you don't mind paying or just pirate similar courses as substitutes.
https://www.conceptart.cgmasteracademy.com/programs/3-2d-environment-design-track
https://www.gameart.cgmasteracademy.com/programs/5-3d-environment-arts-track

yeah one ear is out of place but i cba to fixed lol

>>7678749
looks great well done

>>7678268
I like this style

>>7678254
super cool design deersis ill try something similar too at some point

>>7678698
bro is gonna destroy her

>>7678574
I think it looks good, that perspective is so hard

>>7678826
i look like this and i do this

There are a lot of courses for drawing and painting and all that but are there any for becoming more creative/improving your imagination/getting schizophrenia? I fear I'm creatively bankrupt

>>7678997
Read books that associate with your interests of things to draw, watch series and movies thematic of the things you like and follow artists drawing the things you wanna draw and take elements from them, dont think you can do more than that
>eat shrooms and trip out so hard you go full schizo and take it from there

>>7678997
Brent Eviston has a Becoming Creative course, no idea if it's any good. Maybe character design ideation courses would be better.

he wouldnt survive in macaque society bc he is a greedy bastard when it comes to peaches
>>7678452
Dino! :D
>>7678427
great job!

>>7678698
bold move of her
>>7678434
most of the time under an hour
>>7678501
ink it anon ;3
>>7678978
he looks cute

still cant decide if I should post my niche stuff on tumblr or twitter
God I miss old Instagram, things used to be good

>>7679004
Solid advice. Thanks!
>eat shrooms and trip out so hard you go full schizo and take it from there
kek
>>7679006
Actually did his entire fundies course and it was great so I might check it out. Thanks!

Polished, lined and attempted to render the turd

>>7678995
I see

>>7679026
Forgot pic

An attempt was made

>>7679042
Clean and cute

>>7679042
looks great king, gmi as a french comic strip illustrator
>>7678793
nonexistent asian ass...

>>7679044
>>7679057
Thank you!

Gesture.practice
They any good

>>7679083
breddy gudd :DDDD

>>7679083
They're clear and have good proportions, how long did they take you?

>>7679084
Thanks anon
>>7679086
Thank you
They took 3 minutes each

>>7679083
how did you do this

>>7679083
moga me

>>7679106
Thanks
>>7679097
Just keep grinding i guess

>>7678568
The phase 2 abstinence is hitting you hard, right?
Back to work, I go.

>>7678595
that proves nothing, I made pic related in like five minutes, I can't be bothered to replicate your pic because I'd need to measure paddings and margins and stuff, but I'm certain anyone with basic CSS knowledge can fake it

>>7679124
Never mind, it's trivial to fake. The Great and Powerful Nihu marches on.

>>7678271
https://discord.gg/vkabpS4Mxd

Drew an ant today and I first drew from reference then I tried a different angle

>>7679042
good shit. trying is half the rent and it looks more appealing than my dirty pencil attempt

And nihu just keeps on making commission bucks as if nothing has changed

>>7678967
I thought that was the most useful concise piece of advice I could've given you
I think you will find the right track as long as you realize that you're on the wrong one, I respect your intelligence
>>7678618
no its just that part of your drawings have correct perspective while others are screwed, like the couch is good but the table falls apart
>>7678315
good idea sis

okay I think i made it better
at least the handle

>>7679167
I'm so sorry anon, but handles are meant for gripping. You got the best bit of advice you could have when you first posted and someone said you overworked it.

What are you aiming for exactly?

>>7679175
something that looks cool?

>>7679178
maybe insect parasite thing idk I just wanted a cool handle

>>7679178
Ok so what parts of it do you think look coolest? The eye has to stay but are you set on changing it into a curved sword over a straight sword?

Try making a shortlist of features you absolutely want it have and then we can try adding realism.

>>7679175
>handles are meant for gripping
never stopped capcom from making the ugliest, most unusable and unrealistic blades, in monster hunter

>>7679138
Good job with form

Okay... I think I can lineart like this. Just need a little bit of patience now.

>>7679185
I like the handle maybe I should make it the sword and change the handle into something else

>>7679187
I get what you're saying, but off the top of my head even monster hunter swords have grips on the hilt. I'd believe you that a couple of them don't, but I think it's more practical to start simple and work up to absurd.

>>7679197
That looks a lot better

>>7679197
>>7679167
idk i like the original the new one looks like a dildo

>>7679197
Yeah that's already a step in a better direction I think. Now it kind of looks like a segmented carapace, so maybe it can flex or stretch?

I pulled this off google in case it helps.

>>7679060
good shit

>>7678698
>This is great for ten hours, I like the hand specially.
Thanks anon. I'm glad you're finding some appreciation around here lately. Your work is unique and deserves it.

>>7679167
this could work if the handle was also curved, giving it a natural weight.

>>7679201
It looks like a dildo because it's purple. And you know what they say, anything is a dildo if you're brave enough.

>>7679201
about that....

>>7679205
Yeah, the issue was more that the handle and the blade weren't matching up well.

>>7679211
that cloud head looks heavy, i wonder if its designed to break through armour because of that. doesnt feel like a close quarter last resort kinda thing, which swords usually were, right?

bunny girls are cute!! reference on the top left

handle looks weird?

>>7679221
I wanted it to be like the hands on top cuddled together to form the handle
I guess its just my pure laziness making the handle look shit
comment on the blade for now

My newest complete "good" project.

>>7679216
I think heavy curved swords are designed with severing in mind, like limbs or heads. I think the idea was to be able to do it in one blow but I'm not an expert in the slightest. There's another anon here who seems to know a lot about swords, so they might know.

If I had to speculate though, I'd guess it might be for crippling or killing horses?

>>7679221
I stopped trying to be "creative" and just went with a simple design
and now the eye doesn't fit

early morning maruruk mostly sans reference
started drawing but then somebody sat behind me and I didn't want them seeing be drawing a perturbed crossdressing anime boy so I stopped

>>7679211
I'm not going to sperg out but calling all single edge swords sabres is making me want to hurt myself

>>7679224
The paler colour on the curved blade made it look closer to metal so maybe try adjusting the colour. I think it would probably look sharper if it was pale and smooth at the edge and then becomes more detailed and darker towards the fuller.

I removed the clutter
>>7679231
it is supposed to be metal its supposed to be some kind of insect attached to the blade but I guess it wasnt that good of an idea

>>7679230
Sperging would be welcome, the more insight the better. I was mostly interested in the silhouettes on the picture anyway.

>>7679229
Iteration is part of the process i'm afraid. It helps to have all your components seperated out on different layers so you can mix and match different attempts. You might already be doing that, but just in case.

>>7679217

fixed the shitty leg

>>7679234
The idea is good, don't feel disheartened.

I think you've already made progress in getting your final design. If you feel like things just aren't clicking, try asking yourself questions about it and making sketches of alternative parts. What kind of insect were you thinking of? What if the eye was round instead?

>>7679241
maybe something like this
I guess I should have had some concepts and reference before going straight to drawing I am literally typing this from a second monitor no idea why I don't use reference

>>7679227
>If I had to speculate though, I'd guess it might be for crippling or killing horses?
thats a good guess. like anti cavalry devices for infantry if they come close enough, which is likely to happen. man, to see those chinese battles in action wouldve been quite something. i should watch three kingdoms again

>>7679175
Rule of cool > faggy midwit realism

i made the brapper a little smaller than it was, which is a shame and i think i forgot one of the hidden thumbs sticking out, but eh. i also tried to work a little cleaner, even if it took longer. good exercise

>>7679249
talented rat...

>>7679147
>>7679203
Thanks anon

>>7679249
Very nice
>>7679255
Shut up

>>7679257
>Shut up
It's a compliment.

what does rat or crab mean anyway? its not really talent, just dedication after not doing anything with it since i was a wee lad. if anything, i'm late to the party as 30+ faggot. i hope all you younger guys take it to the heart more than my stupid ass, because you wont regret it the earlier you start. just keep drawing.

>>7679249
This is really good anon, are you using a charcoal pencil to create this or just a soft (8, 9b?) graphite pencil?

>>7679258
No it's not. You're denigrating their hard work and effort so you can keep attention seeking with your stupid self depravation.
>"mogs me"
>"you're a talented rat"
>someone posted their art? Let me make it about me
Kys

>>7679262
6B graphite here. its my favorite. presketching very tenderly with an H, just to get the sizes somewhat right and since its on paper, i cant just extend the canvas. i still made a small mistake with the foot as you can see, the cheap papier i used decided the hole should be exactly there, serving as censoring device for the footcoomers. heh.

Is it counterproductive to draw what you actually want even before attaining fundies? I feel like doing constant studies is a surefire way to burnout but at the same time I don't want to reinforce bad habits.

>>7678232

I can't draw anything since I found out that talented kids who started drawing in 2019, the same time I started drawing "digitally", are already many times better than me. They are 19 now, I am already 27, they have been drawing for 5 years, I have been drawing for 20 years, they can draw whatever they want, I can only draw trash.

>>7679245
Yeah that's the kind of advice people only really accept after they suffer for their hubris enough times lol. I've certainly been there enough times myself.

This one looks a lot more spider like so the insect, or I guess arachnid motif comes through a lot stronger than the other designs. This is a different direction entirely but rapiers have those weird filigree kind of hilts. Something like that but with insect legs could be cool.

>>7679248
There's a time and place for both anon, try and be more open minded.

>>7679266
what? not at all! you should always do what you want AND study. in tandem works best, do a little training and warm ups and then attack a piece you would like to make, and its even better if theyre related, so you can use what you learned earlier, serving as training AND artpiece at the same time

>>7679264
Ahhhh SHUT UP

I'm heading onto my ugly bastard phase.

Was /beg/ always this degenerated? newfag here

>>7679272
me on the right

>>7679278
from what i heard through the grapevine, yes. but its easy to filter out imo, at least mentally. theres still a lot of help and guidance here. i like this general a lot

>>7679278
Where the fuck do you think you are? /ic/ is a red board for a reason.

FreeEyesFixDownoad.zip

>>7679246
I found the original image on an auction site.

https://www.mandarinmansion.com/item/exceptionally-large-dadao

>>7679284
beautiful

>>7679264
Everyone likes being called talented, the rat part is just a joke, i guess...

>>7679284
Very slick. But what's going on with her shirt? It's hard to read if those are just folds or a ripped piece hanging off or something or another.

>>7679290
the actual insult is calling someone talented. i remember messi (the god) was pretty mad about that, as it dismissed all the endless hours of training and hard work to get there. just draw! get to work, anons!

>>7679290
Rats are cool so I don't mind it but it's definitely not intended to be either complimentary or a joke.

>>7679284
This is nice, but is that a request for help on the eyes? I can't tell.

>>7679292
bad example, the effortGOD is ronaldo

>>7679293
>but is that a request for help on the eyes? I can't tell.
its rather easy i think, her left eye is too far out. moving it closer to the nose ridge could improve the gestalt and move the right one a little lower, make it slightly smaller. being on computer its easier to fix that and test it out

>>7679290
Realize that this is a community where people who know they're not up to their intended standard come to practice/learn to be better. Calling everyone talented is stupid and annoying. As an artist you should know better, that's shit that normies say.

>>7679292
Is "talent shaming" a thing now? wtf, so crystal glass faggotry reached even the depths of this hell hole now?
I wish anybody would call me a talented rat, fcs

>>7679294
[TSUU intensifies]

>>7679297
i didnt mean it like that, i think it sets a wrong precedent for others, giving the artists a god status, which i also did jokingly. and yes, messi is an artist. you can do it too!

>>7679297
It's just a quirk of a local schizo. He's a colourful character, rather poetic at times.

>>7679299
>giving the artists a god status
Artists ARE Gods.
>>7679300
I'm not against it, I'm against the ones against it.
I want to reach rat status someday

>>7679266
Start drawing what you want and when you run into something that you're not sure how to draw, do some studies of that particular thing, and then resume your personal drawing

>permabegs want to be called rats
>rats want to be called permabegs

>>7679302
You're thinking too small, aspire to be the king of all rats. Or maybe this general is already the Rat King of /ic/.

>>7679308
Anon, /beg/ is the containment landfill of /ic/. The rest of the board does not look fondly at us. If you're a beg newfag your goal should be to pick up whatever you can and get out of here as quickly as possible.

>>7679307
That make no sense.
Rats want to "make it" but everyone here has a defective personality trait that will not allow that dream ever coming true.

nihu is still like low int so i don't understand why people fixate on him so much specifically, it's not like he became pro over night

>>7679312
/beg/ is where the board's community gathers, this is the "common room".
The board "looks down" on /lsg/, /fag/ and /DAD/

>>7679312
I jest, friend.

>>7679312
chat is this true

>>7679322
no

>>7679314
>but everyone here has a defective personality trait
That makes me think why there's so many schizos here, i mean like, every 5 posters 2 are schizos

>>7679318
gotta admit this represents quite well this general in particular.

>>7679324
Permabegs that have been here long enough evolve into schizos

>>7679328
>this general
thats every general on every board lol

>>7679314
>>7679299
>>7679297
Because talented anons want to feel special in that their success is through sheer hard work and not because they have it easier than others.
You want to see a truly talentless fuck making it through sheer hard work?
Proko is unimaginative, boring, cant grasp 3d for shit (marshall MOGS him on camera in front of millions) and has no work of his own but he passes as an academia larper that people use for learning basic figure shit.
Now that is some talentless hard worker.
He worked hard to be where he is and is still deathmogged by anons from here.
>>7679294
>>7679292
Messi? The literal roid monkey?
>Yeah just hard work bruh
>Ignore that he underwent a hormone treatment that many would never purchase.
I still remember when he disrespected that mexican boxer and was trying to keep him from breaking his skull open.

>>7679322
There's some truth to it. It's more that what constitutes as /beg/ and /int/ is ambiguous enough that a broad number of anons feel comfortable posting here.

>>7679335
If he didn't use hormones he would be at circus now

>>7679315
pyw nigger

>>7679337
Exactly. He is a fucking roidtranny.

i can't go on a single thread on this board without seeing pedophileredlinefaggot self advertising his ugly ass traced art

>>7678572
why do you copy art and not make it clear that these are studies

pop in another challenge

>>7679344

>>7679345
Someone give me a anime style artist who uses fundies for the face instead of whatever eldritch shit moe is please.

>>7679335
>he disrespected that mexican boxer
Wasn't that the other way around? The Canelo guy lose many respect points that time. I remember he ass grabbed his own daughter in a wedding or something around that time too. It was a bad time for Canelo, I believe he's doing better nowadays.

>>7679284
I had scroll quite a bit to find a bit of art in the art thread...anyway this is really nice but I think a contrast should be made between the outline of her shirt and her shoulder cape as its a bit smudgy in that area

>>7679344

>>7679335
>>7679335
>He worked hard to be where he is and is still deathmogged by anons from here.
Is anyone here as rich as Stan? Hmm? That's what i thought ;)

>draw what I want
>it looks like garbage soulless slop
>draw fundies
>it looks like garbage soulless slop
now what

>>7679341
Who?

>>7679347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMTIyTof-gQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhtTG6AGYNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlZakDfseyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O09gQC-KvA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T96Kyd7wGZI

I decided to go back to the old handle since it looked more like a tail

anyone itt try this? or know artists who have? I feel like im stuck trying to reverse engineer the fundamentals in my art

>>7679365
looks difficult to grab

>>7679368
I should give up on the insect thing I am not creative enough to make it work lol

>>7679367
>52 weeks
aaiiieee...

Nihu gotta be sweating buckets rn

>>7679347
Yusuke Murata's faces are very spacially coherent, they have a very concrete sense of 3d form to them

>>7679347
I think old artists or manhwa

>>7679376
More like sweating dollar bills, amirite?

>>7679379
>manhwa
Literal poison.

>>7679380
The gravy train hasn't stopped for a minute during this whole thing

>>7679382
Well, it's realistic anime i think

>>7679376
qrd?

>>7679379
>manhwa
Get the fuck out.

>>7679387
I'm sorry...

>>7679383
Ba$ed nihu, clapping them hot booties all over Rio rn

>>7679386
>>7678674

>barely works being posted
New thread, new blood

>>7678034
It's me again, tried to do a new character wearing no coat this time to practice anatomy as suggested. He's supposed to be young/short/"small", but I dunno, his proportions feel strange. I think it might be that his hands are too small or his head is too big? Anyways, please any critique or advice on how to better this. Also, the advice I got was to keep characters shirtless/wearing tight clothing while I learn, but is this equally as important for legs? Sounds like a stupid question when I write it down, but still. Same for feet, then?

>>7679401
Arms should be longer

where deer? didn't see him lately

>>7678034
>>7679401
>>7678042
Also, followed this advice and am much happier with how it looks. Something still feels uncanny about it, but I don't hate it like I did the original. Thanks!

>>7679392
Nihu is playing all them new videogames on his new computer he bought with his prompt money

Don't mind me, just +1ing the image count

>>7679396
pyw or STFU

>>7679409
He must be making sweet love to his brand new Switch 2 right now, while we struggle with placing two goddamn eyeballs on a deformed pancake "face"..

>>7679372
true im retarded if guess doing anything for 52 weeks works lol

>>7679415
I'm a mental artist

>we

>>7679420
wuz

>>7679423
/INT/s

>>7679414
Kewl.
Is "Shite Pen" your pen name btw?
If not, it should be. It's a cool name

>>7679401
Arms are way too short and head is a bit too big. You can use Link as a model if you're going for a short but built look.

>>7679429
It does sound cool, though I was just frustrated because it started shitting itself before I was able to finish the car, lol

>>7679408
>Something still feels uncanny about it
thats just your perspective works and sizing that need polishing, but it does look better. always test and experiment, try to think of what looks wrong and why it looks wrong, is it the wrong size, the wrong place, is another object/line making it look weird. sometimes its the smallest things making the gestalt, the whole thing, look weird.

>>7679416
>playing vidya instead of putting in the hours to the grind stone
yikes!

>>7679370
It's not that you aren't creative enough, you're just unwilling to cut your losses on work you've already done.

>>7679403
>>7679433
Alright, thanks!
>Link
I've never played LoZ, is there a specific Link I should look at?
>>7679438
Thanks! What can I do to work on perspective specifically? I'm looking at the Google Drive sticky right now and it's admittedly a lot to take in.

>>7679347
https://youtu.be/dSf0UYDi9sA
https://youtu.be/FZcun1HTQmk
the only good one

ok I had my fun, now it's time to go back to study.

>>7679459
me on the right

>>7679448
>What can I do to work on perspective specifically?
it just takes a lot of drawing things, you'll get there. just focus on basic stuff now to get an eye for copying stuff you like , shapes and all that jazz. copying is the most essential skill

>>7679462
Nice bob cut, cutie.

>>7679448
probably botw or totk since you can take his clothes off in them.

pawell

How to ruin a face 101:
Ask me to do a portrait.

Also, finalized my shitty render

>>7679157
Is it better now?

>>7679459
Please study boob and hip anatomy, you will be able to exaggerate proportions much better if you understand the way breasts connect to the torso and hang, and the structure of the pelvis.

>>7679483
Draw more portraits but also study from artists that can successfully pull them off with just lineart, Loomis is great for this

>>7679502
are these portraits from his books?

>>7679483
I got grilled on this yesterday and what helped me improve a bit was using less lines and using a non pure black tone. Second attempt might not be a good example since its not a pure line drawing like the frist but you get what I mean

I can't do anything with the heads, I'll repeat the fate of permabegshizo, it's too complicated, I don't understand anything

>>7679509
Yes, Drawing the Head and Hands specifically iirc

>>7679524
study skulls

>>7679534
I tried, the skull tangles even more.

>>7679408
It looks much better now, reminds me of final fantasy or maybe Bleach? I think there was a dude who looked similar to that, good job, is it really your first time drawing? If so you should give it a chance since I think you have a good eye for it lol
>Something still feels uncanny about it
I have the same problem, I suck at anatomy / perspective but you just have to give it a go and practice anyways. Good luck and welcome to the thread ig lol

>>7679518
we didnt really grill you, friend. and you took advice and used it. that means you'll make it as long as you dont give up. it was actually a nice discussion your drawing kickstarted

>>7679545
Sorry, grill was the wrong word, meant to say critiqued :)

>>7679540
Buy one of these mini skulls, having the 3d object and being able to freely manipulate it allows you to comprehend the form in a much more profound way I've found
Alternatively just kill someone and voila, you have a real skull, though I don't recommend that lol

Don't have a lot of free time today but at least I did this

two monkeys in the wild


>>7679406
he on a little trip
>>7679396

>>7679571
>>7679396
start posting then

>>7679561
7679561
purdy gud! i notice the nose could be rounder and the upper line for the nosehole needs to be straightened slightly, if youre looking for advice. it would improve the gestalt right away. just little 'sanding off' everyhwhere obviously, since its rough, but youre very skilled, you probably know. good shit

>>7679531
what pen is this. jelly of your line work skills. so steady. is it just a lot of repetition using pen or did you do any specific drills to train your skills

>>7679580
Thanks mate, it's just the Pilot 0.7 and 0.5 G-pens. I personally just try to reproduce stuff with it and without a pencil sketch before, which forces me to be very careful and deliberate with my marks

>>7679540
>>7679483
DEATHRAPEOBLIVIONMOGS permabegschizo easily.

>>7679600
>>7679531
>>7679502
you my goat fr

>>7679620
>t. permabegschizo

>>7679600
thats kinda neat
how long have you been drawing for?
>>7679541
same here
perspective will probably always feel uncanny
>>7678034
>this is my first thing
you should give drawing a go really
>>7679620
>DEATHRAPEOBLIVIONMOGS
i like how extra this is

>>7679353
The pic is too small and blurry, but I tried

>>7679624
T-thanks anon, that's a mighty clean linework as well, I salute the bravery it requires because of how definite the pen mark is

>>7679632
Thanks monke fren, 3 years and 8 months pretty much, I started on dec. 2021, though I did doodle all the time as a kid as well

>>7679465
>takes a lot of drawing
Alright, so just continue doing daily drawings then. I just don't wanna ingrain bad habits, y'know?
>>7679472
Okay, sounds good thanks!
>>7679632
>You should give drawing a go
Is it bad that 4chan has conditioned me to not know if this is praise or insult? Not sure if you're implying what I posted is NOT a drawing, or if you're saying it's good enough for me to really pursue it.

>>7679650
This shithole has no hope for redemption jfc

>>7678070
sovl. .

>>7678119
Based

>>7678591
Not him but much better.

>>7678676
Very nice. How does it compare to Bridgman, if you have any experience?

>>7679042
cozy

August challenge thing n.6

>>7678744

>>7679488
Couldn't help it and played around with it. I think it looks better. Oh well, hope the knowledge sticks and onto the next drawing.

>>7679345
by the time of the rollerblades, the wheels especially. i lost concentration. i'll do the statue later or tomorrow after a beer break. either way just in general it was fun though, harder than the brapper girl

>>7679406
>>7678254
he posted here

Wtf... Nihu is 9.2 k followers now. He was 8.8 k yesterday

>>7679654
>Is it bad that 4chan has conditioned me to not know if this is praise or insult?

no i meant it as a compliment, you show clear potential , so its good enough to pursue :3

(i actually think a lot of what i say here feels like an insult :c)

>>7679650
np mate,
ooohh interesting, what made you want to take drawing more seriously back then?

>>7679708
>>7679650

dropped this '':3';'

>>7679663
thanks

>>7679707
Why the surprise? Social growing works like that for every average artist. The market is so big that any new talent will be swimming in curious eyes just looking for something "new". He's in the growing face and it will keep growing even faster for a while till peaking, and then the decreasing curve will happen.

The T-word

>>7679713
Unless a certain doc were to be dropped...

>>7679717
artists don't like the T word

>>7679717
A-word

>>7679724
Which one

>>7679717
s my d word, brownword

are any video courses on anime illustration worth it or am i better off just copying and learning stuff on my own

Speaking of the T word where's the milf guy? I remember he came back from hiatus but disappeared again

>>7679720
That's a higher level phase, pushing whatever drama bullshit out there to blow air into the fire of a dwindling social growth.
People even make up non-existent shit to draw curious viewers in.

>>7679728
https://online-courses.club/

>>7679729
he posted again and hadn't progressed in any way whatsoever and then left again, hardcore plateau. happens to all without a mentor

>>7679729
He got brainrotted by that perilpsycho, he did the same with deer. "He" is an diabolical soul-eater anons don't listen to the warnings, and they play his satanic game.

talent is actually just having a mentor

>>7679708
Something completely trivial now that I think about it, I was participating in a /vrpg/ game jam and I was both disappointed at my portraits and impressed by some anon's, so I decided to git gud. I didn't make my game before the deadline because ofc I didn't come up with decent portraits on time, so basically here I am still trying to get better to tell the stories I want to tell, lol. I just checked and now there are 2 generals divided by their use of RPG Maker, idk if they're still making game jams regularly

>>7679740
>gets int in 1 month and stops

Can any anon help me out here? I've been having this issue for a while. basically, my brush keeps making it so my coloring has these white little dots everywhere because the lasso fill tool, the one on the csp store, doesn't fill it properly. so I have to keep zooming in and fixing it and it makes the coloring process take a lot longer. My brush is at 100 opacity, I use a hard round brush too.

>>7679744
>nice
>encouraging to other posters
>offers as advice when asked
>"diabolical soul-eater"
just say you're jealous people like him and go

>>7679531
sex

>>7679681
stylish, but the cloths quality stands out. or rather the style while the face is simple. the colors tie it together better though

>>7679747
oh wow
>so I decided to git gud
im happy you took that road instead of lament

what kind of art style did you make back then?
pixel? or other style?

(for me it was a mix of wanting to draw for the coom and become as good as my favourite artists)

>>7679750
filter-correct line-adjust line width
thicken to color layer

>>7678977
Thanks, fren. You're awesome.

Why is russia and india not rangebanned yet? stupid inhuman niggers

>>7679767
Ad revenue

>>7679759
thanks anon. The lines look a lot more thick now, but atleast there aren't any white little dots everywhere.

>>7679769
>russia
>india
>worth anything

1 burger = 490 views on youtube lmao

>>7679751
Satan always presents himself like a beautiful well mannered prince/ess. Like vampires, they always need to ask permission to walk inside your home/heart/mind.

>>7679773
lmao

>>7679730
>>7679713
>>7679707
>It is normal
There are countless great artists who cant get attention for shit even though they are far better than Niggu.
Just look at two examples from this very thread.
https://x.com/nemojona/status/1914156066318786975
https://x.com/RaxavArt/status/1939909560732418087
All the hack does is trace AI of feetniggerslop of the lowest hanging fruit fandom.
Not only is he making thousands in comms but is also opening up a patreon.
Adapt or die artniggers

will a screen tablet help me with lines

>>7679777
if everyone draws similar coomslop its not possible to stand out. also, one of them has 1000+, i think thats somewhat adequate. you people talk about anything but drawing. you should be ashamed to ever have picked up a pencil, if you ever did

This is why you should never share your socials here. Schizos will become parasocially obsessed with you even if you're already long gone.

>>7679773
I'd ride Perilpsycho's dick

>>7679777
>Niggu
I keked
also checked

>>7679777
You answered yourself: pokemon is popular and feet is popular, it's not about the art, it never was. The two artists you mentioned are not trying to make numbers, their gimmicks are not popular and they don't post that often. I told raxav he should draw more ass and feet but he just wants to draw what he does, i don't think he cares about numbers

>>7679784
It's the russianschizo, he barely draws, funny thing he was apologizing to everyone just some days ago and now he's doing it again

>>7679788
It will "only" cost you your soul. Many such cases in occult satanic circles.

>>7679793
niggas should stop thinking everyone wants to "make it" most people are just hobbying and have other jobs that probably pay more than making comms

>>7679693
I wish I could draw like that...

>>7679756
I just doodled in trad but tried to make pixel art portraits so my intent was hidden under 2 layers of incompetence lol

>wanting to draw for the coom
Being able to draw your own smut is quite something indeed, I have dozens of unfinished stories that I just needed to see but left unfinished after sketching em

How long have you been drawing anon? What artists are you studying from?

Finished this comfort zone drawing

also fuck the 4mb limit, the canvas is 34696x6225 had to export it at 30% of the size

>>7679794
it would be worth it

>>7679798
This is true 95% of the time. The problem is that youngsters just can't fathom the idea of having a normal job, till they have one, and just then their heads clear up.
If cleaning floors can take care of your money needs, Then why suffer all day drawing the impossible for low paying clients with horrible taste? And that money isn't enough to pay even rent.

>>7679798
>People are comfortable being shit, fat, poor, stupid, ugly
No. If you gave a permabeg a button that makes them talented they would push it. Nobody likes being the laughing stock at the party.
>>7679784
>everyone draws similar coomslop its not possible to stand out
Pyw fag
>>7679777
>The Miku guy barely has a thousand after years of posting
>FavelaCHAD is already better and is raking in money.

>>7679780
Not really, unless you have a paper like screen protector and/or use stabilizers. I use none of those, and even though my line control is quite decent in trad, I struggle a lot with it in one (>>7679042)

>>7679808
You just say that because you are too shit to get good money from comms.
>Immediately thinks about being a janitor instead of having a skilled career.
You are a NEET still living with your parents.

for me it's never learning real lineart or how to color

>>7679773
I'm also feeling a bit corrupted by peril, but it's kind of exciting.

>>7679801
VERY hotcute, which should be a worf btw. Reminds me a bit of Leebo's art

>>7679777
>Permabegschizo gets more engagement and followers than Raxav
Digits of death

>>7679799
start now and dont stop till you have about this much, double-sided. its actually more, but it's spread out. those are just the bad ones/sketches basically. stop being lazy

>>7679777
Nemo needs to draw better faces

once again: the reason why nihus art is so popular is because besides feet and pokemon, people find the /beg/ faces on the more advanced bodies soulful and endearing

>nobody talking about X's pay to win system
elon gets away with it again

>>7679819
whys it look like u have 4chan pulled up on ur tv

>>7679816
Who's leebo? can you link their art? also thanks for the compliment

>>7679823
Is there anything in this world that isn't pay to win?

>>7679829
talent

>>7679826
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/23780455

>>7679830
not really, if ur rich u have to work less and therefore have more freetime to practice and grow ur skills.
not to mention u can buy all sorts of art classes and/or supplies

>>7679833
holy fuck so good

>>7679834
But that's not talent

>>7679839
no one is born with talent
we all start at square one

>>7679834
people here would find a excuse to not drawing even if they were rich

>>7679841
No, we are all different and therefore some of us have to work harder to achieve the same results

>>7679843
untalent is real...

>>7679800
ahh yeah, gotcha, (pixel art is pretty nioce tho) i tried for a long while anime only but decided to go another route after all bc skill issue

>2 layers of incompetence
i really think finding a style that fits someone is one of the harder things with this stuff
>is quite something indeed,
yeah i find it pretty handy bc not everything you want personally is always drawn well or is even drawn

i have been doodling since ages, but sometimes i wanted to draw more seriously but gave up wuickly, but then since last year october i picked it up again and for artists hmmm,
i like rembrandt a lot or medieval paintings
and for this day and age :i cant name specific ones, but pixiv artists influence my art a lot

nice sketch btw

what was the hardest thing for you to learn?

>>7679822
Sounds like cope ngl

>>7679847
Anti-talent

>>7679850
>i have been doodling since ages, but sometimes i wanted to draw more seriously but gave up wuickly, but then since last year october i picked it up again
this is the issue for most people, especially on here i would assume. you doodle since a wee lad, sometimes a little bit better than your classmates, you stand out because of it, but you get discouraged along the way, by life itself or just due to the sheer amount of effort that is still ahead of you. not giving up is the key. keep at it, monkebro

>>7679822
this person draws

>>7679855
this person doesn't

>>7679822
how are they beg faces? people just like them cause they like anime

>>7679855
people find unique faces soulful
>>7679867
if you can't tell it's because you're relatively early beg probably, he makes a lot of mistakes with faces and faces in perspective

>>7679793
>nodraw shitting up the thread for the umpteenth time
funny thing is all it takes is culling one or two people for the threads to become tolerable again. pretty sure he's ban evading anyways.

>>7679860
i surely will :3
but that is exactly what happened to me,
doodled but then gave myself a bad enough burn out that i didnt pick up the pen till 3 years later ,

Gee it sure is nice that nihu gets everything handed to him on a silver platter while putting in barely any effort and still isn't satisfied with what he has. Meanwhile better artists have failed to get even a fraction of his success for years while trying their hardest.

>>7679869
got any examples
this is the only recent one i could see that seems wrong

>>7679874
whats wrong with it?
im too beg to notice

>>7679874
Wtf is wrong with that arm and those hands

>>7679874
this nigga clearly just copies the ref and pastes a beg face on top, foot fags deserve rope.

Well that didn't work as well as I had hoped

Shut up already you drama permas

>>7679875
her right eye is way too far to the left (from our side)
the big blue bang being between the eyes sort of forgives the mistake

>>7679884
im high int tho, and nihu is clearly an ai tracer

>>7679874
also just noticed dat ai background god damn

>>7679884
Can't mods do something? Do we even have mods?

>>7679887
pyw

>>7679894
The mods are anti AI. they are on artists side

>>7679875
Copying a model without realizing how bad everything looks. Could also be a trace of AI, doesn't really matter. boorus are full of art that looks exactly like that.

>>7679898
It's not about that motherfucker, it's because this is a fucking drawing thread, not a gossip drama thread

>>7679874
this face looks shopped in lol

>>7679895
im open to requests

>>7679850
Tone and color, like holly molly it is difficult! I'm a complete noob in them because I never had the courage to tonecolor in trad and still just learning the ropes in digital
Anyway anon kun, your style and themes are quite unique, that's probably the next more difficult thing, finding a unique voice, so that's a quite a hurdle you already left behind. 頑張ってよ!

>>7679887
theres only a handful of /int/ posters, you're going to have to pyw

>>7679903
Nothing difficult about tone and color. Wanna know something funny? All screens show color in a different way and only really high-end tablets and monitors display them correctly

Anyways you sound like a turbo faggot

>>7679637
thats another picture where you soley focus on the shape of the shadows nd nto the overall contours. leaving the shadows out gives you the disatavntage in general. yes, it will take longer, but if you outline the shadow shapes correctly, its basically just like a coloring book. next time go for the shadows mainly, its so much easier if you do that. heres a slightly better one if you are still interested