Thread 7679424

>Just work on your art projects on the side bro
I'm pulling 60 hour work weeks that leave me absolutely exhausted just to come home to a rundown apartment that I can barely afford. At best, I'm able to squeeze in studies, when it comes to actual comic and animation projects, it isn't happening
I need to start making money with art or I'm going to go insane

>>7679424 (OP)
On the side is a meme
Jim Lee went NEET mode to get where he is

They're crabs

>>7679425
>On the side is a meme
This . Unless you are just doing art as a hobby.

>>7679424 (OP)
Only normies give that type of advice. Truth is, the second you work more than 20 hours a week, you're giving up on art. It happens to every normie, they get that job, get married, have kids, and they NEVER touch art again, not even for fun.

>>7679424 (OP)
This is why making art is for rich people

>>7679424 (OP)
Live in your car and draw 16 hours a day until you get hired. You won’t, because you prefer comfort. Many cases, many cases.

>>7679431
It's true. Normies give the worst art advice. It's all designed to put you in the NGMI Zone

>>7679431
Just don't get married/have kids, being a real artist requires some sacrifices

>>7679424 (OP)
Well looks like you're going to go insane, have fun with that

>>7679424 (OP)
>60 work weeks

Most work weeks are 40 hrs brother. You're volunteering to work that much. The silver lining is if you schedule-maxxed and learned to endure doing art on top of all that is that you'd be pretty much unstoppable once you transitioned to doing art for more time. It's a pipedream of course but there are doctors who work that much and the elite who made it through the fire to get what they want, believe what you want to believe just know that it will come true. That being said you really ought to look into downsizing your life so you can buy back your time if you're serious about this, if not art is a wonderful hobby to have and you can work on your personal projects on the side just know that it will take more time. Welcome to adulthood where you learn there are no solutions just trade-offs.

Normies usually say this because they don't know how much hard work it takes to get anything going, to them you're drawing pictures and the years of study is just "talent" so it shouldn't be that hard.

go back to facebook, blogposting retard

>>7679425
>Jim Lee went NEET mode to get where he is
That's so funny, so many NEETs would just waste that time playing vidya or watching anime instead of making it big.

>>7679424 (OP)
a week have 168 hours, lets say u actually work 2 hours extra, since u have to get ready and go back home. so that makes 12 hours, wich put you at 72 hours of work for 6 days, lets pretend u also have a healty sleep schedule, thats 56 hours a week. that let you with 42 hours free a week. being generous as fuck, lets say you cook, wash clothes, do dishes wich is 10 hours more in a week

you still have 32 hours and u somehow have "no time"? im 100% convinced that u prob doomscroll in your phone, play videogames with your friends, watch shitty shows or waste that time any way possible but you can only "squeeze a few studies" u have no passion and you should quit art.

>>7679482

You do realize other people in your life take out a pocket of time too, yes? Not everyone has the same free time what kind of bro science are you parroting?

>>7679425
>>7679431
>>7679449
>Picrel is why most artists are NGMI

>>7679424 (OP)
That is a genuinely ugly show.

>>7679500
Jim Lee cut off work and health, now he's a multi millionaire... it's not fair!

>>7679500
>friends

that’s a free space on the bingo card for most people here

>>7679492
> Not everyone has the same free time

Yet everyone has the same 24 hours in a day. If I were you I'd invest in some courses where you get feedback from the teachers, it's the fastest way to get where you want to go but most artists don't do it because of pride and lack of funds. If you're working 60 hr workweeks I hope you at least have money to spend and if you do you may want to have your food delivered so you don't waste time shopping. You can take a staycation to do the course if it requires a lot of time, when you don't have much of it you NEED a plan and a ton of drive.

>>7679481
>That's so funny, so many NEETs would just waste that time playing vidya or watching anime instead of making it big.

The main component of 'making it' seems to be coming from some form highly structured/ disciplined practice like the military or the medical field where you learn how to learn and you don't cry about not being in the mood or being too tired to live out your dreams.

>>7679504
seethe

>>7679492
>other people
art by definition is a lonely activity, if you have a "normal" social life and not a single mental problem i have terrible news for you anon

>>7679515

you are projecting, anon. I would explain my life situation but as I finished up typing the post I realized that’s TMI and so I’ll just say, you are projecting.

>>7679511
>The main component of 'making it' seems to be coming from some form highly structured/ disciplined practice like the military or the medical field where you learn how to learn and you don't cry about not being in the mood or being too tired to live out your dreams.
Most online artists have shittier discipline even when they do make it. Most can't draw for more than a few months without breaking down

ideally /ic/ should be like those scared straight videos where its a zoo of idiots that make excuses, play games and jack off despite having "no free time" and eventually end up 60 years old not having made a single step towards their dreams and this should scare anyone into working harder but you retards actually embrace being this pathetic
peak cringe, that midlife crisis is going to hit hard

>>7679522
how am i, and what exactly am i projecting? your life situation means nothing to me, do you really want to be an artist or you preffer to whine about it? most of the people that claim they want to make it, will quit art if meant the slightest suffering or lowering their life quality by any means.

>>7679532

I just can’t quit a job when I have a Rabbi requesting debt you know. If it wasn’t for that then yes, I’d just jump a long time ago.

>>7679523
>Most online artists have shittier discipline even when they do make it.

Then that's not really making it because you'd have to be consistent to do it as a full time job. Though there are shortcuts (more pivots than shortcuts) like being a youtuber and shilling courses or a product left and right so you don't have to draw.

>>7679481
when you're NEET then doing something productive becomes exponentially harder, since its the biggest thing you do all day. Going from 0 (rotting in bed) to 100 (drawing at your best) takes way more energy than going from 70 (coming home from work) to 100

>>7679511
learning to draw is not really the problem for a lot of anons here. You can make something good with just high beg skills. If you're on 4chan, chances are you're neurodivergent and in your own head too much. Drawing for a big project requires that you not second guess yourself and actually hve faith in your art.

>>7679500
>cut off friends
>cut off work

when is my real success starting

>>7679552
Bro this logic is fucking crazy. If you are a neet, its this kind of mindset thats going to kill your dreams

>>7679424 (OP)
zoey love

>>7679578
How many hours do you draw each day?

>>7679581
I didn't say it was good, but it was so easy to overcome, then neets wouldn't exist.

>>7679424 (OP)
how did the grubhub artstyle become popular> Korea just basically repurposed it.

>>7679592
not tied to a person's own style, so corporations can use it for everything. The one thing corporations in the west (and probably kora since its just an accelerated version) hate is when their story/game/whatever is associated with one guy who created the art style. That takes power away from the corporation and gives it to the artist. This bean mouth grub hub shit is as free and open as possible so they can put the least amoutn of effort into making it/paying people to do it.

>>7679424 (OP)
>work 60 hours a week
>barely able to afford a rundown shithole apartment
maybe don't live in a libcuck shithole state?
actually if you can't fathom why you're miserable you deserve to suffer there.

>>7679589
Again, this mindset is killing your dreams. A victim mentality as a neet is the most pathetic identity you could possibly have. Muh depression... muh adhd... rotting in bed... Fuck off and kys if thats how you feel. You have more opportunity and potential than 99% of people.

>>7679508
Wdym? You're my friend :3

>>7679694
impossible I was told i was a friendless loser

>>7679700
you are, anon thought you were me.

>>7679688
>THIS
I know an ex-NEET and loser mindset is why most NEETs are doomed, like you said, they have a lot of potential, if they used their time to skill up instead of jerking off they'd turn get that high paying job or start their online businesses.

>>7679700
>>7679702
We're all friends here :)

>>7679711
Yup. Im a neet myself. Im speaking all from experience. Its an incredible position to be in, once you realize it. Time is the most valuable thing you will ever have. Especially with drawing. Its hard to think of another skill you can just griiiiiiiiiiiiind by yourself in one spot with minimal supplies

Work + commuting takes 14 hour/day due to rush hour both ways, though saturdays are easier. I can probably squeeze an hour of doodling if I have energy left but I must also study.

>>7679714
:’)

>>7679735
>Especially with drawing. Its hard to think of another skill you can just griiiiiiiiiiiiind by yourself in one spot with minimal supplies
Drawing's pretty much perfect for broke niggas, just get a pencil and a stack of paper and you're good, hell just grab a stick and draw on sand or smear animal shit on a cave like our ancestors.
Cheaper than drawing just learning to sing.